| --- | Log | opened Wed Dec 24 00:00:57 2003 |
| 00:32 | Sh8d0w> | ouch, that outage must of hurt... |
| 00:41 | EFudd> | yeah, i found the post. |
| 00:41 | EFudd> | i'm glad i logged in before i left for a few days |
| 00:41 | EFudd> | :/ |
| 00:41 | EFudd> | i guess i need to setup cross-system monitoring |
| 00:45 | caker> | it gets worse |
| 00:45 | EFudd> | eh? |
| 00:45 | caker> | host7 and host8 have corrupt root partitions |
| 00:46 | caker> | and are currently de-racked |
| 00:46 | caker> | ... |
| 00:46 | EFudd> | fuck. |
| 00:46 | caker> | yup |
| 00:46 | EFudd> | what root fs are you using? |
| 00:46 | caker> | ext3 |
| 00:46 | EFudd> | and what did they do, bounce the fuckers 80 times? |
| 00:46 | EFudd> | it's difficult to corrupt a filesystem enough that it isn't fsckable. |
| 00:47 | caker> | esp. to two of the machines at once |
| 00:47 | EFudd> | pretty skilled. |
| 00:47 | caker> | They came back online fine, and then started eating themselves |
| 00:47 | EFudd> | Herm...... |
| 00:47 | caker> | 3 hrs of god knows what |
| 00:47 | * | caker is not a happy camper |
| 00:48 | EFudd> | i can imagine. your unhappyness is worse than mine. |
| 00:48 | EFudd> | so i'll stfu. :) |
| 00:48 | EFudd> | do you know if the fs's the linodes were on is damaged also? or just the root? |
| 00:48 | caker> | so far we've only cracked host8 open, operated, and its being re-racked, sans the secondary raid drive |
| 00:49 | EFudd> | oic. splitting mirrors phsyicall to break/fix? |
| 00:49 | caker> | linode fs's are there, but looks like it took some damage, too -- i'll know more here soon hopefully |
| 00:49 | EFudd> | ugh.......... |
| 00:50 | caker> | Yes, boooting one-legged, left the secondary r/o in case I can recover |
| 00:50 | EFudd> | That would be suck since an linode is effectively a single inode |
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| 00:50 | risto> | $christmas_shopping = "done"; |
| 00:51 | EFudd> | on a side note, I think I might take my Magellan Roadmate 700 back after this wk's trip and look into the garmin streetpilot 2610 |
| 00:51 | EFudd> | the roadmate 700 looks like the nicer unit but it's functionality leaves something to be desired from a geek standpoint. it's made for a 'dumb consumer' |
| 00:51 | risto> | what happened to host7 & host8? |
| 00:52 | caker> | not exactly clear yet |
| 00:52 | caker> | on phone for 1.5 hrs already :( |
| 00:52 | risto> | site related? |
| 00:52 | caker> | not including the three hrs from earlier |
| 00:53 | caker> | hrm? |
| 00:53 | risto> | ie. power off etc? |
| 00:53 | caker> | that's what caused it, for sure |
| 00:54 | risto> | ah, this is the same thing I saw earlier when everything became unreachable for about 30-45 min |
| 00:54 | caker> | which host? |
| 00:54 | risto> | all of them |
| 00:54 | caker> | yeah, that was power outage |
| 00:54 | risto> | in theplanet |
| 00:54 | caker> | we've upgraded from power outage to fs corruption |
| 00:55 | risto> | host3 fine? |
| 00:55 | caker> | seems so |
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| 02:20 | wap> | Good morning. |
| 02:21 | wap> | anybody knows what happened to host4 last night? |
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| 02:22 | eurozip_home> | sighup: g7 eurozip |
| 02:22 | sighup> | #G7 stats for eurozip, the heh -- 37/112 Current Level: 40 | Time to next level: 0 days, 00:15:16 | Status: online | Item Total: 335 | Total Time Idled: 18 days, 14:28:05 |
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| 02:23 | @guinea-sleep> | wap: read the forums, eh? |
| 02:23 | wap> | guinea-sleep: will do ;) |
| 02:25 | @guinea-sleep> | no, i'm suggesting you check there first before asking what might have been asked a few thousand times already :p |
| 02:26 | wap> | guinea-sleep: suggestion accepted ;) |
| 02:44 | caker> | well, host7 and host8 are coming back from the dead... |
| 02:45 | caker> | this was the most amazing rescue that has ever been performed... |
| 02:50 | @guinea-sleep> | and on that note, i'm feeling much better about the move to HE now :) |
| 02:50 | @guinea-sleep> | also |
| 02:50 | * | guinea-sleep buys caker a keg |
| 02:50 | @guinea-sleep> | heh. a caker kegger |
| 02:51 | caker> | The guy/kid at TP that stuck with me the entire time said he's never seen any power loss ever at TP |
| 02:51 | @guinea-sleep> | heh |
| 02:51 | caker> | this really stuck it to us, though |
| 02:51 | caker> | cakegger |
| 02:54 | @guinea-sleep> | sigh. time for work |
| 03:03 | guinea-sleep | is now known as guinea-work |
| 03:28 | * | caker asks for a few couple-TB backup device for xmas |
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| 07:05 | ant> | sighup seen caker |
| 07:05 | sighup> | caker was last seen on #linode 3 hours, 36 minutes and 37 seconds ago, saying: asks for a few couple-TB backup device for xmas [1072254539] |
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| 07:15 | ant> | anyone know what timezone is caker in? |
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| 07:55 | @mikegrb> | sighup: bash 195969 -force |
| 07:55 | sighup> | <TXTerron> wanna know whats geeky? |
| 07:55 | sighup> | <Jennifer> hmm? |
| 07:55 | sighup> | <TXTerron> I'm driving down the road |
| 07:55 | sighup> | <Jennifer> I drove down the road today too... |
| 07:56 | sighup> | <Jennifer> Wait, You mean you're on irc in your truck? |
| 07:56 | sighup> | <TXTerron> yeah, using my wireless card |
| 07:56 | sighup> | <Jennifer> ^___^ |
| 07:56 | sighup> | <Jennifer> Jason, is that safe? |
| 07:56 | sighup> | <TXTerron> na, i just type with one hand while I'm driving and halfway watch the road, its cool, dont worry |
| 07:56 | sighup> | <Jennifer> You're good with typing with one hand? |
| 07:56 | sighup> | <TXTerron> shaddup :D |
| 07:56 | sighup> | <TXTerron> FUCK |
| 07:56 | sighup> | <TXTerron> i just rear ended a lady |
| 07:56 | sighup> | <TXTerron> brb :( |
| 07:56 | Quik | is now known as _Quik |
| 07:57 | _Quik | is now known as Quik |
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| 08:00 | Quik> | what's the OFTC 'feds' channel? |
| 08:01 | Quik> | #oftc ;) |
| 08:06 | Quik> | !bring-good-luck-to caker |
| 08:15 | @mikegrb> | Quik: did you have a problem you needed an ircop for? |
| 08:29 | * | Quik waves to mikegrb |
| 08:30 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 08:30 | @mikegrb> | hello |
| 08:30 | @mikegrb> | wassup? |
| 08:30 | Quik> | can i pm ya? |
| 08:30 | @mikegrb> | sure |
| 08:42 | @adamg> | this emerge sync is at 15 hours and counting |
| 08:52 | @adamg> | the new mysql site looks horrible |
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| 09:12 | ant> | anyone know caker's time zone? |
| 09:12 | @adamg> | hes in NJ |
| 09:12 | ant> | ta |
| 09:13 | ant> | weird, he seems to be ignoring my emails and supprt ticket - I'm asking for an upgrade to a 96 - is he VERY busy do you know? |
| 09:13 | @mikegrb> | he has been |
| 09:14 | @mikegrb> | especially last night |
| 09:14 | @mikegrb> | he had a very late night |
| 09:14 | @adamg> | and there are also no 96's available at the momment |
| 09:14 | @mikegrb> | sighup: linode avbail |
| 09:14 | sighup> | mikegrb: sorry... |
| 09:14 | @mikegrb> | er |
| 09:14 | @mikegrb> | sighup: linode avail |
| 09:14 | sighup> | Linode availability -- [Linode 64: 26] [Linode 96: 0] [Linode 128: 17] [Linode 192: 0] [Linode 256: 0] |
| 09:14 | @mikegrb> | heh right |
| 09:14 | ant> | ok - thanks |
| 09:14 | @mikegrb> | that may be a major factor :) |
| 09:14 | ant> | ok - will give him th ebenefit of the doubt |
| 09:15 | ant> | he does have a good history and reputation as far as I can see |
| 09:15 | @adamg> | there probably wont be any more till caker sends off the new hosts which wont be till the new year |
| 09:16 | ant> | do you know if they will all be at HE ? |
| 09:16 | @adamg> | yes |
| 09:16 | ant> | ah, that answers one of my questions |
| 09:16 | @adamg> | I think the next 5-6 hosts will be at he |
| 09:18 | ant> | I have a colleague in South Africa and we have had a bit of trouble choosing a VPS - my 64 is on host7 - at theplanet I think? and am a bit nervous about moving - wanted to ask caker for a test login on HE |
| 09:18 | ant> | ie host7 is good |
| 09:18 | @mikegrb> | ahh |
| 09:18 | @mikegrb> | I'm at HE |
| 09:18 | @mikegrb> | they have been very good |
| 09:19 | ant> | what is the ip/host name - perhaps a few ping tests and tracrts will help me - will ask my colleague in SA to test |
| 09:19 | @adamg> | host11.linode.com, host12.linode.com, host12.linode.com |
| 09:20 | ant> | ok, ta |
| 09:20 | @mikegrb> | right |
| 09:20 | @mikegrb> | host10 also |
| 09:21 | ant> | can I ask a big favour - a test login - just a user with no rights except to be able to login , that would REALLY help me |
| 09:21 | @adamg> | also switch2.linode.com |
| 09:22 | ant> | have been trying to get hold of caker for a week to ask him for this - I am on li183.members.linode.com |
| 09:22 | ant> | on host7 |
| 09:22 | ant> | but you can say no - would not be offended |
| 09:22 | ant> | my email addr is ant@mimetes.com |
| 09:24 | ant> | probably too much to ask, my apologies |
| 09:24 | @adamg> | when my emerge sync I will set-up an account for you |
| 09:26 | * | adamg wonders why debianutils is been installed on gentoo |
| 09:27 | ant> | thanks - that would help tremendously - would need it for 24 hours - so I can contact my friend in SA to do a test |
| 09:27 | @mikegrb> | adamg: gentoo has roots in debian |
| 09:28 | @mikegrb> | adamg: most of the init/rc stuff is based on debian |
| 09:28 | @adamg> | arrah |
| 09:28 | @adamg> | just seemed strange |
| 09:29 | @mikegrb> | aye |
| 09:29 | @adamg> | 16 hours and counting |
| 09:32 | wap> | mikegrb: LOL @ "<TXTerron> i just rear ended a lady" |
| 09:37 | @mikegrb> | hehehehe |
| 09:37 | @mikegrb> | adamg: yeah |
| 09:37 | @mikegrb> | adamg: probably everything from glibc upgrade to gcc and more :) |
| 09:43 | eurozip> | . |
| 09:43 | @mikegrb> | .. |
| 09:43 | @adamg> | and then some |
| 09:43 | @mikegrb> | :) |
| 09:44 | @mikegrb> | once your up to date it normally goes a bit quicker |
| 09:46 | @adamg> | well Iam now on 14 out of 20, although I am sure there was not 20 in the list for the update world |
| 09:47 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 09:50 | eurozip> | ant, friend in SA, TX? |
| 09:50 | * | eurozip is in SA |
| 09:51 | ant> | not actually in SA, I've packed for Perth |
| 09:51 | ant> | but still have mates in SA |
| 09:51 | ant> | private channel - go to #talkSA ? |
| 09:54 | ant> | still there eurozip? |
| 09:54 | eurozip> | yep |
| 10:03 | ant> | later - time to hit the hay in Australia, thanks for offer adamg, send me an email on ant@mimetes.com if you still don't mind helping me out |
| 10:03 | @adamg> | will do |
| 10:03 | ant> | ta |
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| 10:34 | @mikegrb> | sighup: bash 48150 -force |
| 10:34 | sighup> | <DaFuror> ok |
| 10:34 | sighup> | <DaFuror> that about sucked |
| 10:34 | sighup> | <phac> what now daf? |
| 10:35 | sighup> | <DaFuror> I went out to my car to get my U1 about an hour ago |
| 10:35 | sighup> | <g3nocide> U1 ? |
| 10:35 | sighup> | <DaFuror> Sun Ultra 1 server |
| 10:35 | sighup> | <DaFuror> well, anyway |
| 10:35 | sighup> | <DaFuror> these three drunk kid come outta nowhere and one of them tried to jump me |
| 10:35 | sighup> | <g3nocide> LOL |
| 10:35 | sighup> | <DaFuror> I cracked his skull open with the U1 |
| 10:35 | sighup> | <DaFuror> just got done dealing with the fine upper arlington police dept |
| 10:35 | sighup> | <g3nocide> lol you hit him with a sun ultra one server |
| 10:35 | sighup> | <DaFuror> I can |
| 10:35 | sighup> | <g3nocide> LOL |
| 10:35 | sighup> | <DaFuror> t |
| 10:35 | sighup> | <g3nocide> omfg |
| 10:35 | sighup> | <DaFuror> wait to see the police report |
| 10:35 | sighup> | <g3nocide> you know you are a geek when, you protect yourself with server hardware |
| 10:39 | @adamg> | finally |
| 10:40 | @mikegrb> | :) |
| 10:40 | @adamg> | 17 and a half hours, but apparetnly I have a cofig file to update |
| 10:41 | @mikegrb> | etc-update :)) |
| 10:41 | @mikegrb> | thanks for reminding me |
| 10:41 | @mikegrb> | I need to too |
| 10:41 | @mikegrb> | yesterday it took me about 5 or 6 hrs I think |
| 10:41 | @mikegrb> | well no it was 3 or 4 |
| 10:41 | @adamg> | jsut read the help file for it |
| 10:41 | @adamg> | I take it you had less than me to update though |
| 10:41 | @mikegrb> | yes |
| 10:41 | @mikegrb> | mysql was the biggest |
| 10:42 | @adamg> | yeah that one does take a while! |
| 10:42 | @mikegrb> | other then that just little stuff |
| 10:43 | @mikegrb> | what host are you on? |
| 10:43 | @adamg> | in etc-update |
| 10:43 | @adamg> | I take it that - is for a line removed and + is a line added |
| 10:43 | @adamg> | host12 |
| 10:43 | @mikegrb> | correct |
| 10:44 | @adamg> | the only difference is the maintained ID bit, you would ahve though it would ifnore that |
| 10:44 | @adamg> | - /bin/chown root.adm $LOG |
| 10:44 | @adamg> | + /bin/chown root:adm $LOG |
| 10:44 | @mikegrb> | yeah |
| 10:45 | @adamg> | what is the differnce between the . and the : |
| 10:45 | @mikegrb> | they both work |
| 10:45 | @mikegrb> | I always use . I think : is more propper |
| 10:46 | @adamg> | how does the interactive merge thing work |
| 10:47 | @mikegrb> | it shows you old on the left new on the right |
| 10:47 | @mikegrb> | you type 'l' to keep old or 'r' to keep new :) |
| 10:48 | @adamg> | well at least that is all done for now! |
| 10:50 | @adamg> | mikegrb you said yesterday that you can force an update of packages if the set flags change using something in gentoolkit, how is this done |
| 10:51 | @mikegrb> | one sec |
| 10:51 | @mikegrb> | got to find the little thingie about it |
| 10:53 | @mikegrb> | there site is slow from here :< |
| 10:53 | @mikegrb> | http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/gwn.xml |
| 10:53 | @mikegrb> | it was rather recent |
| 10:54 | @mikegrb> | there is a tips and tricks section of the gwn it was in one of those in the last 2 months |
| 11:01 | @adamg> | i have been back to sept and cant find anything although one did mention gentoolkit |
| 11:02 | @mikegrb> | yeah |
| 11:02 | @mikegrb> | you might check forums.gentoo.org |
| 11:02 | @mikegrb> | heck it could have been the "heard in the community section" with a link to a shell script posted in the forums or mailing lists |
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| 11:28 | vitrum> | hmm |
| 11:28 | vitrum> | [00:42][00:42] <MemoAlert> You have a new memo from Sniper1, to retrieve it use: /msg MemoAlert <nick> <password> read 1 |
| 11:28 | vitrum> | memoalert No such nick/channel |
| 11:28 | vitrum> | memoalert End of /WHOIS list. |
| 11:28 | vitrum> | somebody trying to snatch passwords? never heard of memoalart |
| 11:29 | vitrum> | laert |
| 11:29 | vitrum> | bah too early |
| 11:30 | @guinea-work> | should be memoserv, surely |
| 11:31 | @guinea-work> | /whowas is handy |
| 11:31 | guinea-work | is now known as guinea-pig |
| 11:46 | @adamg> | found this http://www.kered.org/unix_scripting.html |
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| 12:31 | @adamg> | oh well after updating the set of use flags, an emege world isntalled the kerberos updated but nothing else |
| 12:32 | artifex> | vitrum: |
| 12:32 | artifex> | 03:42 -!- Irssi: Starting query in oftc with MemoAlert |
| 12:32 | artifex> | 03:42 <MemoAlert> You have a new memo from Sniper1, to retrieve it use: /msg |
| 12:32 | artifex> | MemoAlert <nick> <password> read 1 |
| 12:32 | artifex> | 10:14 -!- MemoAlert [alert@24-161-89-29.hvc.rr.com] |
| 12:32 | artifex> | 10:14 -!- ircname : emanon |
| 12:33 | artifex> | 10:14 -!- server : nova.oftc.net [Wed Dec 24 08:43:20 2003] |
| 12:33 | artifex> | 10:14 -!- End of WHOWAS |
| 12:33 | artifex> | usually, ircd services run on the ircd.... not some roadrunner account ;-) |
| 12:33 | tjfontaine> | heh |
| 12:33 | tjfontaine> | did you report that? |
| 12:34 | @mikegrb> | 90,000 people reported it :) |
| 12:34 | tjfontaine> | sorry my dsl router died last night after I went to bed |
| 12:34 | * | tjfontaine shrugs |
| 12:34 | @mikegrb> | but they were only connected 12 minutes before being akilled |
| 12:35 | @mikegrb> | :) |
| 12:35 | @mikegrb> | they were silly and sent the message to staff |
| 12:35 | @mikegrb> | several times even |
| 12:35 | tjfontaine> | heh |
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| 12:45 | santa> | hi |
| 12:45 | @mikegrb> | hello |
| 12:45 | @mikegrb> | got any goodies for me santa? |
| 12:45 | santa> | afraid not...i'm a host8'er |
| 12:45 | santa> | :( |
| 12:45 | @mikegrb> | :( |
| 12:45 | wferrel> | anyone hear any reports of recent heavy increases in e-mail traffic? |
| 12:45 | @mikegrb> | how are things on your linode? |
| 12:45 | @mikegrb> | wferrel: not I |
| 12:45 | santa> | won't boot....... |
| 12:46 | @mikegrb> | wferrel: how heavy? |
| 12:46 | @mikegrb> | santa: do you have all of your disk space alocated? |
| 12:46 | @mikegrb> | santa: also have you tried setting the profile to single user mode and connecting to the console during boot? |
| 12:47 | wferrel> | mikegrb: well, I'd normally expect to see < 2000 messages per hour, but for the last day+ we've been seeing 20,000+ |
| 12:47 | santa> | i tried a new partition/distrubtion but get same "can't boot" error msg |
| 12:47 | santa> | Host Message Filesystem /linodes/[username]/2300.fs not found. Boot aborted. |
| 12:47 | @mikegrb> | santa: and you switched your profile to boot this other dist? |
| 12:47 | santa> | yup |
| 12:47 | @mikegrb> | hmmm |
| 12:47 | @mikegrb> | yes that would be a problem |
| 12:47 | santa> | it seems like a UML fault |
| 12:47 | @mikegrb> | sighup: ping caker |
| 12:47 | sighup> | caker: ping! ping! ping! |
| 12:47 | sighup> | caker was last seen on #linode 9 hours, 18 minutes and 52 seconds ago, saying: asks for a few couple-TB backup device for xmas [1072254539] |
| 12:47 | @mikegrb> | santa: not necessarily uml |
| 12:48 | @mikegrb> | but the uml kernel is not finding the loop back file on the host |
| 12:48 | santa> | i'm a bit of a UML newbie |
| 12:49 | santa> | hopefully its something chris can fix |
| 12:49 | @mikegrb> | right it looks like this will need his attention |
| 12:49 | @mikegrb> | have you opened a ticket yet? |
| 12:49 | @mikegrb> | I'd include a copy and paste of that error message |
| 12:49 | santa> | yup....still waiting |
| 12:49 | @mikegrb> | ahh |
| 12:50 | @mikegrb> | well he may still be asleep, was up very late after last night ;) |
| 12:50 | santa> | figured as much |
| 12:51 | santa> | just peeved that i can't get into my little linode to see the damage |
| 12:51 | santa> | oh well....got a few presents to deliver....bye |
| 12:56 | @adamg> | are there archives to the gentoo mailing lists |
| 12:58 | tjfontaine> | when I went to bed I thought host8 was one with corrupted root |
| 13:04 | @mikegrb> | yes and 7 |
| 13:04 | @mikegrb> | he said some linodes could have problems |
| 13:25 | @guinea-pig> | just goes to show, you should always backup yourself :p |
| 13:32 | @mikegrb> | :) |
| 13:32 | @adamg> | finally found it! |
| 13:35 | @adamg> | only got 4 packages to update |
| 13:53 | @adamg> | any python coders here |
| 13:53 | tjfontaine> | not really, whats up though? |
| 13:54 | @adamg> | jsut found an update script for gentoo written in python and wanted to change it a bit |
| 13:54 | @adamg> | I know someone who can do it but they are not about till the new year |
| 13:57 | @adamg> | I can wrap a shell script around it, to get it working nicely |
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| 14:30 | @mikegrb> | okay |
| 14:30 | @mikegrb> | who has the boot files for an NCD X terminal? |
| 14:35 | tjfontaine> | hahah |
| 14:36 | @mikegrb> | don't laugh at me! |
| 14:37 | @mikegrb> | I got it so there |
| 14:37 | tjfontaine> | heh |
| 14:37 | @mikegrb> | this thing is nice |
| 14:37 | @mikegrb> | it looks like it is fresh from the original box |
| 14:37 | @mikegrb> | not a mark or discoleration on the whole thing |
| 14:38 | @mikegrb> | I now have a new favorite keyboard too |
| 14:38 | tjfontaine> | take some pics |
| 14:39 | @mikegrb> | I will |
| 14:39 | @mikegrb> | after I get it running ;) |
| 14:39 | tjfontaine> | heh |
| 14:39 | @mikegrb> | just need to setup bootp and tftpd now |
| 14:40 | @mikegrb> | http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=6426&highlight=tftpd |
| 14:40 | @mikegrb> | you would like that ;) |
| 14:42 | tjfontaine> | :-D |
| 14:43 | caker> | hey |
| 14:44 | tjfontaine> | yo |
| 14:46 | tjfontaine> | heh |
| 14:46 | @mikegrb> | howdy caker |
| 14:46 | @mikegrb> | "santa" was here earlier |
| 14:47 | tjfontaine> | he didn't leave me any presents though |
| 14:47 | tjfontaine> | not even coal |
| 14:47 | tjfontaine> | I wonder what that means |
| 14:47 | @mikegrb> | he couldn't get to the naughty/nice list on his linode |
| 14:47 | tjfontaine> | heh |
| 14:51 | caker> | heh |
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| 15:32 | @adamg> | the joys of christmas |
| 15:32 | tjfontaine> | it must have been the mistletoe |
| 15:49 | tjfontaine> | sighup: where's santa? |
| 15:49 | sighup> | i haven't a clue, tjfontaine |
| 15:49 | @guinea-pig> | santa... was big |
| 15:49 | @guinea-pig> | but we made him fit |
| 15:51 | @guinea-pig> | i'm so geeky that i use dict all the time |
| 15:51 | @guinea-pig> | and when it's down, i use /etc/dictionaries-common/words |
| 15:51 | tjfontaine> | he |
| 15:51 | tjfontaine> | h |
| 15:53 | @guinea-pig> | oh. that was meant elsewhere |
| 15:53 | @guinea-pig> | but have at it |
| 15:53 | @guinea-pig> | http://www.innergeek.us/geek.html :P |
| 15:54 | @guinea-pig> | i got 50.09862% |
| 15:54 | tjfontaine> | oh wow this is really scary heh |
| 15:55 | @guinea-pig> | i'm a geek: i don't use excessive tape when wrapping gifts, like most guys |
| 15:55 | tjfontaine> | heh |
| 15:55 | @guinea-pig> | i do it logically and neatly |
| 15:56 | @guinea-pig> | yes, this is entirely related to my quest to impress $GEEK_GRRL |
| 15:58 | artifex> | traffic sucks |
| 15:59 | * | artifex is in standstill on fairlawn backroads |
| 15:59 | @guinea-pig> | naah |
| 15:59 | @guinea-pig> | traffic is fun |
| 15:59 | @guinea-pig> | it's being stuck in it that sucks |
| 15:59 | artifex> | heh |
| 15:59 | artifex> | especially in snow like this |
| 16:00 | artifex> | anyways, moving now, bbiab |
| 16:01 | @mikegrb> | to museums by my own freewill |
| 16:01 | @mikegrb> | hmm |
| 16:01 | @mikegrb> | I worked at one |
| 16:01 | @guinea-pig> | haha |
| 16:01 | @guinea-pig> | hey |
| 16:01 | @mikegrb> | took a pay cut to work at one :) |
| 16:01 | @guinea-pig> | i *ran* a public access tv station |
| 16:01 | @guinea-pig> | FOR FREE |
| 16:01 | @guinea-pig> | they gave me $200/month because i was overworking myseldf |
| 16:04 | tjfontaine> | listen to NPR or AM radio |
| 16:04 | tjfontaine> | yes |
| 16:05 | tjfontaine> | Risk |
| 16:05 | tjfontaine> | all the way to the end |
| 16:05 | tjfontaine> | heheh |
| 16:06 | @mikegrb> | Universal remote control with LCD display |
| 16:06 | @mikegrb> | one of favorite purchases |
| 16:06 | tjfontaine> | hehe |
| 16:07 | tjfontaine> | used Usenet or IRC |
| 16:07 | tjfontaine> | oops |
| 16:08 | @guinea-pig> | hah |
| 16:08 | @guinea-pig> | why do those two only get one box? |
| 16:08 | @guinea-pig> | [16:08][16:08] -:- [synch/#afda] 364810581 miliseconds. (since..12/02/99@01:) |
| 16:08 | @guinea-pig> | [16:08][16:08] -ChanServ- Welcome to the IRC channel of the website of the froup alt.fan.douglas-adams |
| 16:08 | @guinea-pig> | :D |
| 16:09 | tjfontaine> | heh |
| 16:10 | tjfontaine> | how to roll-step and high-step in time |
| 16:10 | @mikegrb> | shirts that proclaim geekhood <- ummm does the geek pride shirt I have on now count? |
| 16:10 | tjfontaine> | hehe |
| 16:11 | tjfontaine> | 49.30966% - Super Geek |
| 16:12 | @mikegrb> | designed a nuclear device of some sort |
| 16:12 | @mikegrb> | pwahaha |
| 16:12 | tjfontaine> | should have asked are you doing this test with tab and space and are you viewing this from command line? |
| 16:12 | @mikegrb> | we did that at nuke power school |
| 16:12 | tjfontaine> | blah |
| 16:12 | tjfontaine> | kick mikegrb :-D |
| 16:12 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 16:13 | tjfontaine> | manhattan project wannabe |
| 16:14 | @adamg> | in nice does - speed up or slow down |
| 16:14 | @mikegrb> | the difference between nuclear fission and fusion |
| 16:14 | @mikegrb> | and can explain it in detail |
| 16:14 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 16:14 | @mikegrb> | adamg: positive == slower |
| 16:14 | @adamg> | l |
| 16:14 | @adamg> | k |
| 16:15 | tjfontaine> | postive == high yeild rate |
| 16:15 | @mikegrb> | that the answer is 42 |
| 16:15 | @adamg> | what is the best cflag for an xeon chip |
| 16:16 | tjfontaine> | PIII? |
| 16:16 | @guinea-pig> | p3 xeon or p4 xeon? |
| 16:16 | tjfontaine> | heh |
| 16:16 | @adamg> | what ever cake uses |
| 16:16 | @adamg> | p4 I think |
| 16:16 | @adamg> | s/cake/cake |
| 16:16 | @adamg> | s/cake/caker |
| 16:17 | @mikegrb> | 49.5069% - Super Geek |
| 16:17 | tjfontaine> | you're more a geek than I |
| 16:17 | tjfontaine> | its because of your nuclear crap |
| 16:18 | tjfontaine> | *bastard* |
| 16:18 | @mikegrb> | heh |
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| 17:40 | @adamg> | people really should learn to backup stuff |
| 17:41 | @adamg> | caker ping |
| 17:44 | @adamg> | thank god you can build binary stuff for gentoo from portage |
| 18:20 | @adamg> | happy christmas all |
| 18:33 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 18:33 | @mikegrb> | you too adam |
| 18:34 | @mikegrb> | tjfontaine: ping |
| 18:34 | @guinea-pig> | sighup: g7 gp |
| 18:34 | sighup> | #G7 stats for gp, the Emperor of New England -- 9/112 Current Level: 45 | Time to next level: 3 days, 08:09:46 | Status: online | Item Total: 411 | Total Time Idled: 34 days, 21:36:00 |
| 18:34 | @guinea-pig> | sigh |
| 18:34 | @guinea-pig> | 3 days behind |
| 18:34 | @mikegrb> | sighup: seen tjfontaine |
| 18:34 | sighup> | tjfontaine was last seen on #xbox-linux 1 hours, 52 minutes and 15 seconds ago, saying: later all [1072302147] |
| 18:35 | @guinea-pig> | coincides nicely with his idle time, doesn't it |
| 18:35 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 18:36 | @mikegrb> | this is funny stuff |
| 18:36 | @guinea-pig> | which? |
| 18:36 | @mikegrb> | I'm on an xterminal with 4mb of ram |
| 18:36 | @guinea-pig> | btw |
| 18:36 | @guinea-pig> | i must reiterate |
| 18:36 | @mikegrb> | the colors keep changing b/c it doesn't have enouh ram for everrything |
| 18:36 | @guinea-pig> | goto 10 |
| 18:36 | @guinea-pig> | i must reiterate |
| 18:36 | @guinea-pig> | goto 10 |
| 18:36 | @guinea-pig> | oh wait |
| 18:36 | @guinea-pig> | heh |
| 18:36 | @guinea-pig> | i must reiterate |
| 18:37 | @guinea-pig> | (invader zim)++ |
| 18:37 | @guinea-pig> | i said it a year ago. i said it two years ago. i say it again |
| 18:49 | @guinea-pig> | sigh |
| 18:49 | @guinea-pig> | "you have used 3% of your monthly transfer" |
| 18:49 | @guinea-pig> | wouldn't it be nice if you could get credit for unused bw? :P |
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| 19:32 | Griswald> | omg |
| 19:33 | Griswald> | gp, that'd be... copyright infringement to verizon's rollover plan! |
| 19:33 | * | Griswald snickers. |
| 19:33 | @mikegrb> | ummm |
| 19:33 | @mikegrb> | anyone have pointers on remapping keys in x? |
| 19:33 | Griswald> | though, it really wouldn't be. |
| 19:33 | @mikegrb> | hmm the arrow keys don't even work |
| 19:33 | @mikegrb> | away |
| 19:33 | Griswald> | uhh... there's a gui to configging X that can do it I believe |
| 19:34 | @mikegrb> | hmm |
| 19:34 | Griswald> | I forget the exact name to the executable |
| 19:35 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 19:35 | Griswald> | check /usr/X11R6/bin |
| 19:35 | Griswald> | all X's executables are in there |
| 19:35 | Griswald> | :) |
| 19:35 | @mikegrb> | ;) |
| 19:35 | Griswald> | (atleast, on my node) |
| 19:38 | vitrum> | http://reviewed.homelinux.org/man/xmodmap/ |
| 19:38 | vitrum> | that help? |
| 19:39 | @mikegrb> | thanks |
| 19:39 | @mikegrb> | I think it will |
| 19:40 | vitrum> | http://freshmeat.net/projects/xkeycaps/?topic_id=55%2C147 |
| 19:40 | vitrum> | maybe what gris was thinking of |
| 19:50 | Griswald> | yeah |
| 19:51 | Griswald> | hrm... I got me one of those roll-up indestructable keyboards :P |
| 19:51 | Griswald> | gonna build me an NES Linux box and use that keyboard for it :) |
| 19:51 | Griswald> | hrm.. |
| 19:51 | * | Griswald goes to hunt for an NES carry-pack. |
| 19:52 | Griswald> | TOO EBAY! |
| 19:52 | caker> | hello |
| 19:53 | Griswald> | heya caker! :) |
| 19:53 | @mikegrb> | howdy |
| 19:53 | caker> | merry christmas |
| 19:53 | @mikegrb> | likewise :) |
| 19:53 | @mikegrb> | now just to get this keyboard sorted |
| 19:53 | @mikegrb> | my new favorite :) |
| 20:05 | @adamg> | well its 1am here |
| 20:07 | * | adamg wonders why the gentoo channel is secret |
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| 20:07 | junior | is now known as Guest108 |
| 20:08 | Guest108 | is now known as jrm |
| 20:14 | Griswald> | pfft. |
| 20:14 | Griswald> | 4 more hours to xmas here |
| 20:14 | @adamg> | hehe |
| 20:15 | jrm> | how do you know when your linode is setup, do you just get a confirmation email? |
| 20:15 | @adamg> | yeah caker should send you an email |
| 20:15 | jrm> | ok, cool |
| 20:16 | @adamg> | caker has been busy sorting out some problems so it probably a bit behind with the account setups and with it been xmas and all |
| 20:16 | jrm> | yea, i'm not in a hurry, just wondering what the process was |
| 20:16 | jrm> | if figured it would take a backseat to christmas |
| 20:16 | caker> | jrm: what is the username you used? |
| 20:17 | jrm> | junior |
| 20:17 | @adamg> | then again speak of the devil |
| 20:17 | caker> | jrm: ok, one sec :) |
| 20:17 | jrm> | heh, don't work on christmas eve for me, you are going to make me feel bad |
| 20:17 | caker> | jrm: nah -- you're all set.. welcome to the club :) |
| 20:17 | jrm> | thanks |
| 20:18 | * | caker tries to feel useful again |
| 20:19 | @adamg> | I am sure we can find something to make you feel useful |
| 20:20 | caker> | how do I scroll back in irssi besides the lame scroll to line x command? |
| 20:20 | @adamg> | no idea |
| 20:22 | @adamg> | page up and down |
| 20:22 | caker> | yeah, it uses ncurses so that doesn't work |
| 20:22 | @adamg> | Windows can be scrolled up/down with PgUp and PgDown keys. If they don't work for you, use Meta-p and Meta-n keys. For jumping to beginning or end of the buffer, use /SB HOME and /SB END commands. |
| 20:23 | caker> | hrm .. wonder what meta char is |
| 20:23 | @adamg> | ctrl, alt? |
| 20:25 | @adamg> | try alt or the windows key |
| 20:26 | caker> | a hah! its ^[ |
| 20:26 | caker> | thnx |
| 20:27 | @adamg> | strange combo |
| 20:42 | @mikegrb> | caker: page up/down works for me :) |
| 20:43 | * | adamg wonders what he can remove from gentoo to slim it down |
| 20:44 | @mikegrb> | hdparm |
| 20:44 | @mikegrb> | setserial |
| 20:44 | @mikegrb> | fbset |
| 20:44 | @mikegrb> | dhcpd |
| 20:45 | @mikegrb> | or dhcpc |
| 20:45 | @mikegrb> | I think that is most of them |
| 20:45 | @adamg> | need dhcp to get my IPs!! |
| 20:45 | @mikegrb> | nah, configure them manually ;) |
| 20:45 | @adamg> | will do at some point about dhcp is easiest for now |
| 20:46 | jrm> | got the debian install down to 65M |
| 20:47 | @adamg> | how do you uninstall stuff with emerge |
| 20:47 | @mikegrb> | 'emerge unmerge blah' |
| 20:48 | @mikegrb> | adamg: pretty easy though, just put your ip in /etc/conf.d/net |
| 20:49 | @adamg> | along with netmask and gateway etc! |
| 20:49 | @mikegrb> | right |
| 20:49 | @mikegrb> | but that is easy ;) |
| 20:49 | @mikegrb> | takes 1 minutes |
| 20:49 | @adamg> | I will do it, when I get round to it as usual |
| 20:49 | @adamg> | just playing for now |
| 20:50 | @mikegrb> | right |
| 20:51 | @adamg> | removing those packages does not save any space, well nothing significant |
| 20:51 | @mikegrb> | there are some other places too |
| 20:51 | @mikegrb> | /usr/portage/distfiles |
| 20:51 | @mikegrb> | you can rm anything under that dir |
| 20:52 | @adamg> | well that is 69 meg |
| 20:52 | @mikegrb> | also /var/tmp/portage |
| 20:52 | @mikegrb> | there should be three or four dirs... you can rm the contents of them |
| 20:52 | @adamg> | 2 meg in that one |
| 20:52 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 20:53 | @adamg> | there are about 50 dirs in that one |
| 20:53 | @mikegrb> | sorry |
| 20:53 | @mikegrb> | the contents of the three dirs under /var/tmp |
| 20:53 | @mikegrb> | portage dist-files |
| 20:54 | @mikegrb> | and portage-pkg |
| 20:54 | @adamg> | still only 2 meg |
| 20:54 | @mikegrb> | aye |
| 20:54 | @adamg> | 5 dirs |
| 20:55 | @adamg> | can you get portage to delete the distfiles |
| 20:55 | @mikegrb> | most likely so |
| 20:55 | @mikegrb> | not sure off hand |
| 20:55 | @mikegrb> | scroll threw /etc/make.conf though |
| 20:55 | @mikegrb> | lots of settings there |
| 20:56 | @adamg> | yeah I have already set a few things in there like autoclean and userpriv |
| 20:57 | @adamg> | although I have a feeling I will be making and using binary packages at some point |
| 20:58 | @adamg> | cant find anything about the source dir |
| 20:58 | @mikegrb> | :/ |
| 20:59 | @adamg> | would love to lose the entire portage tree |
| 20:59 | @mikegrb> | heh yes |
| 20:59 | @mikegrb> | you are in he? |
| 21:00 | @adamg> | yes |
| 21:00 | @mikegrb> | perhaps I should nfs export mine only to your linode ;) |
| 21:00 | @adamg> | well according to people on the forum that would not work |
| 21:00 | @mikegrb> | well |
| 21:00 | @mikegrb> | I read those posts |
| 21:01 | @adamg> | I did read somewhere that nothing writes to the portage dir during an emerge |
| 21:01 | @mikegrb> | on a home lan it isn't a big deal becuase space isn't at a premium |
| 21:01 | @mikegrb> | right |
| 21:01 | @mikegrb> | I do an emerge sync every day or two |
| 21:01 | @mikegrb> | but I'll just set a cron job |
| 21:01 | @mikegrb> | do it every day around 11:23 EST |
| 21:01 | @mikegrb> | something like that |
| 21:01 | @adamg> | we need to talk caker into doing it |
| 21:01 | @mikegrb> | so you know when it is synced |
| 21:01 | @mikegrb> | heh right |
| 21:02 | @mikegrb> | it would save him bandwidth |
| 21:02 | @mikegrb> | and disk i/o |
| 21:02 | @adamg> | it would cut gentoo is 500 meg as well |
| 21:02 | @mikegrb> | which would be a plus |
| 21:02 | @adamg> | and the ccache would be good as well |
| 21:02 | @mikegrb> | disk i/o is pretty heavy for an rsync |
| 21:03 | @adamg> | there is no reason why not really! |
| 21:04 | @adamg> | well I just delete my entire portage tree and disk usage dropped by 330 meg, 60 of that was dist files just rsyncing it with you exclude file |
| 21:05 | @mikegrb> | heh lots of free space heh |
| 21:05 | @adamg> | lets see what this sync dumps |
| 21:07 | @adamg> | now all we need is cake |
| 21:07 | @adamg> | r |
| 21:07 | @adamg> | my r key is sticking |
| 21:07 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 21:07 | @mikegrb> | cake would be nice too |
| 21:07 | @mikegrb> | sighup: ping caker :) |
| 21:07 | sighup> | caker: ping! ping! ping! |
| 21:07 | sighup> | caker was last seen on #linode 40 minutes and 33 seconds ago, saying: thnx [1072315610] |
| 21:07 | @adamg> | it is a real pain |
| 21:11 | Griswald> | sighup: g7 Griswald |
| 21:11 | sighup> | #G7 stats for Griswald, the MUD God -- 71/112 Current Level: 32 | Time to next level: 0 days, 14:35:07 | Status: online | Item Total: 254 | Total Time Idled: 5 days, 11:48:35 |
| 21:11 | @adamg> | the other biggest use of space on gentoo is the compile process |
| 21:11 | @mikegrb> | right |
| 21:11 | Griswald> | =P |
| 21:11 | @adamg> | you need about 500 meg spare for that |
| 21:11 | @mikegrb> | I had problems on a home system with 500 meg /var |
| 21:12 | @mikegrb> | not enough room to compile X... had to move it to /usr |
| 21:12 | @adamg> | yeah |
| 21:12 | Griswald> | eeg |
| 21:13 | Griswald> | I don't think mandrake even requires THAT much memory for compiling... |
| 21:13 | Griswald> | never did test it's limits |
| 21:13 | @adamg> | but when my sites go live I am going to have to build the stuff on another linode to build binarys then install the binarys on the live machines |
| 21:13 | Griswald> | yip. best thing to do right there |
| 21:14 | @adamg> | cant take something like mysql offline for several hours to upgrade from source |
| 21:14 | * | Griswald nods. |
| 21:14 | Griswald> | I only need to use upgrade rpm's :) |
| 21:14 | Griswald> | (the chicken way out) |
| 21:14 | @adamg> | having things from source is very nice and very useful |
| 21:14 | Griswald> | yep |
| 21:14 | @adamg> | but the length of time to build is a lot |
| 21:15 | Griswald> | lets you make any changes needed (IE: updating bug fixes) without needing to re-download the rpms, etc. |
| 21:15 | Griswald> | not too mention their more efficient |
| 21:15 | Griswald> | since their built to "YOUR" system |
| 21:16 | @adamg> | so building some portage into a binary and then installing them is the best way to go |
| 21:16 | @adamg> | s/some/from |
| 21:16 | @adamg> | also means I can test for problem on a test system before upgrading the live systems |
| 21:17 | Griswald> | yup |
| 21:17 | Griswald> | that's how I do it with my node |
| 21:17 | Griswald> | I have a mandrake comp sitting beside me |
| 21:17 | Griswald> | (soon to rebuild it in a penguin PC case) |
| 21:20 | @mikegrb> | right |
| 21:20 | @mikegrb> | I install stuff on a system at home which closely matches my linode |
| 21:20 | @mikegrb> | though I compile the stuff on the linode |
| 21:20 | @mikegrb> | for example mysql |
| 21:21 | @mikegrb> | let it upgrade then just /etc/init.d/mysqld restart |
| 21:21 | @adamg> | I guess that is one way, but will probably end up going the binary way |
| 21:22 | @mikegrb> | aye |
| 21:22 | @mikegrb> | if you have two gentoo linodes I would do that |
| 21:22 | @mikegrb> | I have my make.conf set to nice the builds to 15 |
| 21:22 | @adamg> | I will probably end up with 2 or 4 so it should not be a problem |
| 21:22 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 21:23 | @adamg> | a test node for every live one |
| 21:24 | @adamg> | portage is now 186 |
| 21:25 | @adamg> | and aparently there is anpther update to portage, time for another emerge world |
| 21:26 | @adamg> | oh dear, I dont have a profile dir and emerge wont work |
| 21:28 | @adamg> | so where the hell should the profile dir be |
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| 21:30 | @mikegrb> | /usr/portage/profile |
| 21:31 | @mikegrb> | shall I gzip mine? ;) |
| 21:31 | @adamg> | maybe deleting /usr/portage was not a good idea |
| 21:32 | @mikegrb> | maybe not ;) |
| 21:32 | @adamg> | they really should not put important stuff in there |
| 21:32 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 21:32 | jrm> | I've reached the hardest part of configuring a server |
| 21:32 | jrm> | choosing the hostname |
| 21:33 | @mikegrb> | jrm: penelope |
| 21:33 | @mikegrb> | ;) |
| 21:33 | jrm> | heh |
| 21:33 | @mikegrb> | adamg: thegrebs.com/profiles.tar.gz |
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