| --- | Log | opened Tue Dec 23 00:00:06 2003 |
| 00:01 | Sh8d0w> | mikegrb: u around? |
| 00:40 | = | Sh8d0w [~DaPimpinM@h-67-101-130-118.NYCMNY83.dynamic.covad.net] quit (Quit: ...) |
| 02:54 | wap> | Good morning. |
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| 07:11 | @mikegrb> | caker! |
| 07:11 | @mikegrb> | merry christmas |
| 07:17 | @caker> | hey -- using irssi and a little unconfident in it |
| 07:30 | @adamg> | afternoon all |
| 07:35 | @adamg> | people seem to be up early today |
| 07:48 | @mikegrb> | caker: nah it is better |
| 07:48 | @mikegrb> | caker: use it a few times and you will prefer it ;) |
| 07:49 | * | mikegrb is certainly a text interface person |
| 07:49 | @caker> | I installed it into a non-standard place, so gotta figure out how to change paths to the proxy mod |
| 07:49 | @mikegrb> | I get agrivated at work that I can't use just the keyboard in windows |
| 07:49 | @mikegrb> | ahh |
| 07:49 | @mikegrb> | caker: one of the pretty bad ass features is the upgrade capability |
| 07:50 | @mikegrb> | you can upgrade the copy of irssi you are using while it is running without disconnecting from the server |
| 07:50 | @mikegrb> | I will have a gentoo server howto soon |
| 07:50 | @caker> | cool |
| 07:50 | @mikegrb> | I've done a few things to portage to reduce bandwidth and space usage |
| 07:51 | @caker> | argh -- I'm on my TiBook, too so I feel ... out of my environment |
| 07:51 | @adamg> | mikegrb how soon is soon |
| 07:51 | @mikegrb> | like removing all of the X and games ebuilds and telling portage not to make them come back when I emerge rsync |
| 07:51 | @adamg> | caker how was the flgith |
| 07:51 | @mikegrb> | adamg: within next day or to |
| 07:51 | @caker> | that will be nice |
| 07:51 | @mikegrb> | s/to/two |
| 07:51 | @caker> | adamg: flight was pretty fast/easy .. airport wasn't as locked-down as I suspected |
| 07:51 | @mikegrb> | last thing I have to do is a replacement ebuild for system that removes hdparm fbset etc |
| 07:52 | @adamg> | would have thought the security would be tight with the current alert status |
| 07:52 | @mikegrb> | I had in the neighborhood of 20 shots of rum last night |
| 07:52 | @mikegrb> | feeling remarkably well |
| 07:53 | @caker> | adamg: they were gung-ho, but no lines and I didn't get 'probed' or anything :) |
| 07:53 | @caker> | mikegrb: why on earth are you up so early, then? |
| 07:53 | @adamg> | could ask the same thing about you caker |
| 07:54 | @mikegrb> | caker: I have work |
| 07:54 | @mikegrb> | caker: I got up at 3 am though |
| 07:54 | @caker> | I've been getting up by 8:00 for the past week or so |
| 07:54 | * | adamg was just about to deploy gentto but wonders if he should wait for mikegrbs guide |
| 07:54 | @caker> | ouch |
| 07:54 | @mikegrb> | went to sleep at 5am then got up again at 7 |
| 07:54 | @caker> | hrm.. it's only 7:00am in nashville :) cool |
| 07:54 | @mikegrb> | went to sleep last night around 10pm cause I felt like shit |
| 07:55 | @mikegrb> | adamg: it won't be anything you can't do afterwords |
| 07:55 | @mikegrb> | adamg: will save around 100-150 mb, not a lot but then it will save a lot of disk i/o and bandwidth when you do emerge sync |
| 08:01 | @adamg> | I still thing that 700 meg is a lot |
| 08:03 | @adamg> | so where are you now then caker |
| 08:05 | @mikegrb> | hmmm |
| 08:06 | @mikegrb> | adamg: one of the big differences is gentoo has to have python rsync etc installed for portage to work |
| 08:06 | @mikegrb> | I dunno exactly what is contained in the debian install |
| 08:06 | * | adamg wonders why it took 7 mins to shutdown his linode |
| 08:06 | @adamg> | ok |
| 08:06 | @caker> | I am on my laptop at my parents house |
| 08:06 | @adamg> | which is where |
| 08:07 | @caker> | southern NJ |
| 08:07 | @adamg> | k |
| 08:07 | @adamg> | did you get those 2 other hosts sorted? |
| 08:08 | @caker> | neg :( |
| 08:08 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 08:08 | @mikegrb> | and you even got up early |
| 08:09 | @mikegrb> | caker: have you figured out all the keys in irssi? |
| 08:09 | @caker> | outside forces |
| 08:09 | @caker> | just prev/next :) |
| 08:09 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 08:09 | @mikegrb> | well the others you will probably want are ALT+1-0 |
| 08:09 | @mikegrb> | for switching to windows 1 - 10 |
| 08:10 | @mikegrb> | then ALT + [qwertyyuiop] for the next windows |
| 08:10 | @caker> | cool |
| 08:10 | @adamg> | gentoo is going to take some getting used to |
| 08:10 | @mikegrb> | and ALT+A to switch to the most recent window with highest activity |
| 08:11 | @mikegrb> | so if someone said your name or privmsg'd you it will go to that first |
| 08:11 | @mikegrb> | then windows where someone talked |
| 08:11 | @mikegrb> | then join/part crap |
| 08:11 | @mikegrb> | fsking fire alarm |
| 08:11 | @mikegrb> | thing is anoying |
| 08:11 | @mikegrb> | especially this morning |
| 08:11 | @caker> | å |
| 08:11 | @mikegrb> | making my head hurt again :< |
| 08:11 | @caker> | oops |
| 08:11 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 08:11 | @adamg> | what is /dev/shm? |
| 08:12 | @mikegrb> | shared memory |
| 08:12 | @caker> | I think the Terminal app in macosx might nab some of those bindings |
| 08:12 | @caker> | tmpfs |
| 08:12 | @mikegrb> | yeah |
| 08:12 | @mikegrb> | the space is "alocated" though not the ram istelf |
| 08:12 | @mikegrb> | er its self |
| 08:12 | @caker> | adamg: It's like a ram disk that will swap out |
| 08:12 | @mikegrb> | so it doesn't actually use any ram until stuff is put there |
| 08:13 | @adamg> | oh ok |
| 08:13 | @mikegrb> | caker: I have a script you may be interested in for irssi |
| 08:14 | @adamg> | and gentoo uses /dev/ubd/0.. instead of /dev/ubda etc which seems strange |
| 08:14 | @mikegrb> | a friend told me about it 2 days ago, can't figure how I made do without it :) |
| 08:14 | @caker> | ok .. i just want to get the proxy working, so I can use a local client |
| 08:14 | @mikegrb> | oh |
| 08:14 | @caker> | well, in that case |
| 08:14 | @mikegrb> | well then you can't use it :) |
| 08:14 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 08:14 | @caker> | adamg: it uses devfs |
| 08:14 | @mikegrb> | dcc send request sent |
| 08:14 | @mikegrb> | use /dcc get to receive |
| 08:15 | @mikegrb> | you put it in ~/.irssi/scripts |
| 08:15 | @mikegrb> | and then '/run trackbar' |
| 08:15 | @adamg> | and the difference between devfs and the things that other distros use is |
| 08:15 | @caker> | any way to escape to shell for a sec> |
| 08:15 | @mikegrb> | it draws a dashed line across a window when you go to another window |
| 08:15 | @mikegrb> | yes actually |
| 08:15 | @mikegrb> | I always use screen lemme check and see how |
| 08:16 | @caker> | adamg: usually the /dev is a folder with a bunch of mknod'ed files |
| 08:16 | @caker> | adamg: people got tired of the chaos, and started making a deamon to manage it |
| 08:16 | @caker> | devfs isn't in favor anymore |
| 08:16 | @caker> | soon ... what is the new one .. udev? |
| 08:17 | @caker> | will probably take over |
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| 08:18 | @adamg> | k |
| 08:18 | @mikegrb> | caker: will be kind of funny.... |
| 08:18 | @mikegrb> | caker: /window new |
| 08:18 | @adamg> | things is just going to take a while to get used to |
| 08:18 | @mikegrb> | caker: then /exec -interactive sh |
| 08:18 | @mikegrb> | will get you a shell in a new window |
| 08:18 | @mikegrb> | then type text like you are talking in a channel |
| 08:19 | @caker> | oh man |
| 08:20 | @mikegrb> | weird? |
| 08:20 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 08:20 | @caker> | how do I close this thing |
| 08:20 | @mikegrb> | exit to exit the shell |
| 08:20 | @mikegrb> | then /window close |
| 08:20 | @mikegrb> | or even /win close I think |
| 08:20 | @caker> | will it not close #linode window? |
| 08:20 | @adamg> | this is going to take a while, emerging vi |
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| 08:20 | @mikegrb> | caker: oh |
| 08:20 | @mikegrb> | hey! |
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| 08:20 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 08:20 | @adamg> | wb |
| 08:20 | @mikegrb> | you do that in the other window to close it? |
| 08:21 | * | caker is lost |
| 08:21 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 08:21 | @mikegrb> | /win new should make a new window |
| 08:21 | @adamg> | go back to mirc! |
| 08:21 | @caker> | no kidding |
| 08:21 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 08:21 | @mikegrb> | no... use screen to get a shell :p |
| 08:21 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 08:21 | @mikegrb> | get the script copied? |
| 08:22 | @caker> | its in ~/.irssi/ or ~/.irssi/scripts ? |
| 08:22 | @mikegrb> | /scripts |
| 08:22 | @mikegrb> | it should go into ~ by default then you mv it there |
| 08:22 | @mikegrb> | it is really really useful with lots of windows |
| 08:22 | @mikegrb> | like my 25 or so |
| 08:23 | @caker> | ok i ran it, didnt do anything |
| 08:23 | @mikegrb> | right |
| 08:23 | @mikegrb> | now switch to another channel |
| 08:23 | @mikegrb> | wait a moment and switch back to here after something is said |
| 08:23 | @mikegrb> | la la la |
| 08:23 | @mikegrb> | la la la |
| 08:23 | @mikegrb> | la la la |
| 08:23 | @mikegrb> | la la la |
| 08:23 | @mikegrb> | la la la |
| 08:23 | @caker> | ok, requires perl 5.6 |
| 08:23 | @mikegrb> | la la la |
| 08:23 | @mikegrb> | oh |
| 08:23 | @mikegrb> | heh oops |
| 08:23 | @mikegrb> | I guess that was a build time option with irssi |
| 08:24 | @caker> | welp, time for me to get some breakfast |
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| 08:24 | @mikegrb> | heh have some for me |
| 08:24 | @mikegrb> | or not |
| 08:24 | @adamg> | does all the stuff in the /usr/portage dir have to be kept |
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| 08:24 | @mikegrb> | that is one of the things my guide is about |
| 08:25 | @adamg> | it has 272 meg in it |
| 08:25 | @mikegrb> | if you do 'emerge rsync' it will recreate it all |
| 08:25 | @mikegrb> | my guide will tell you how to tell it not to |
| 08:25 | @mikegrb> | hmm lemme dcc send you a file |
| 08:26 | @adamg> | fecking windows |
| 08:26 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 08:26 | @mikegrb> | it messing with you? |
| 08:27 | @adamg> | it didnt like files with no extensions should be fine now |
| 08:27 | @mikegrb> | ahh |
| 08:27 | @mikegrb> | I can give it an extension |
| 08:27 | @adamg> | try again |
| 08:27 | @mikegrb> | I can give it an extension.txt |
| 08:27 | @mikegrb> | er |
| 08:28 | @mikegrb> | :) |
| 08:28 | @mikegrb> | okay |
| 08:28 | @mikegrb> | make the dir /etc/portage |
| 08:28 | @mikegrb> | put a file with that name there |
| 08:28 | @mikegrb> | listing the categories you don't want |
| 08:29 | @mikegrb> | then uncomment the (most likely) last option in /etc/make.conf... I used the default filename and path for it |
| 08:29 | @mikegrb> | then when you emerge rsync it won't recreate stuff you don't need/want |
| 08:29 | @mikegrb> | if you change your mind in the future you can always emerge rsync |
| 08:30 | @mikegrb> | after taking the line out |
| 08:30 | @adamg> | so should I delete all the stuff in /usr/portage first |
| 08:30 | @mikegrb> | I would delete just what you don't want |
| 08:31 | @mikegrb> | it will only transfer files that are modified (or don't exist) so leaving the ones you want to keep will cut down on transfer time your first rsync |
| 08:33 | @adamg> | so what does rsync do i did read the portage guides but can not remember |
| 08:33 | @mikegrb> | that updates your local portage tree to match current |
| 08:33 | @mikegrb> | like apt-get update |
| 08:34 | @mikegrb> | so I generally do that about once a week maybe once every 3 days |
| 08:34 | @mikegrb> | then 'emerge -upv world' which just shows me which packages there are new versions for |
| 08:34 | @mikegrb> | then 'emerge -u world' to do the update if I'm okay with it |
| 08:35 | @adamg> | ok |
| 08:35 | @mikegrb> | Calculating world dependencies ...done! |
| 08:35 | @mikegrb> | [ebuild U ][ebuild U ] dev-perl/libwww-perl-5.69-r2 [5.69-r1] +ssl |
| 08:35 | @mikegrb> | [ebuild U ][ebuild U ] dev-db/mysql-4.0.16 [4.0.14-r2] -static +readline -innodb +berkdb +tcpd +ssl +perl -debug |
| 08:35 | @mikegrb> | [ebuild U ][ebuild U ] sys-devel/gettext-0.12.1 [0.11.5-r1] +nls |
| 08:35 | @mikegrb> | [ebuild U ][ebuild U ] sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.34 [1.33] +nls -static |
| 08:35 | @mikegrb> | [ebuild U ][ebuild U ] dev-util/cvs-1.11.11 [1.11.10] |
| 08:35 | @mikegrb> | that is sample output |
| 08:35 | @mikegrb> | so those packages will be updated the current installed version is in brackets |
| 08:36 | @mikegrb> | the - and + stuff at the end are use flags that affect that package and what they are set to |
| 08:36 | @adamg> | k |
| 08:37 | @mikegrb> | when ever I'm going to emerge something I generally do 'emerge -pv something' to see what dependencies there are |
| 08:37 | @mikegrb> | and use flags in case it has one I didn't know about or think about that I might want to set real quick |
| 08:37 | @mikegrb> | then I take the pv away to do it for real |
| 08:37 | @mikegrb> | something else that is nice that I only found last week... |
| 08:37 | @mikegrb> | there is a setting in the /etc/make.conf file for setting the nice level of portage |
| 08:38 | @mikegrb> | I always do 'nice -n 13 emerge something' to have it work more in the bakcground |
| 08:38 | @mikegrb> | now I don't have to :) |
| 08:38 | @adamg> | this is confusing!! |
| 08:39 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 08:39 | @mikegrb> | just a little bit at first |
| 08:41 | @adamg> | so I am assuming that /usr/local is not really used since portage will put everything in /usr |
| 08:42 | @mikegrb> | for the most part |
| 08:42 | @mikegrb> | I put stuff I hand compile in /usr/local |
| 08:42 | @mikegrb> | which isn't a lot :) |
| 08:42 | @mikegrb> | mythtv at home (from cvs) |
| 08:42 | @mikegrb> | and scripts and what not I have written |
| 08:43 | @adamg> | well hopefully I will not have to hand compile alot |
| 08:43 | @mikegrb> | come to think of it mythtv is the only thing I have installed not from portage :) |
| 08:43 | @mikegrb> | I only do mythtv because I do some development for it |
| 08:43 | @adamg> | I will have to symlnk a few things to /usr/local/bin |
| 08:43 | @mikegrb> | for scripts to work? |
| 08:44 | @adamg> | yeah, mainly perl |
| 08:44 | @mikegrb> | ahh |
| 08:44 | @mikegrb> | yes |
| 08:44 | @adamg> | just for ease etc |
| 08:45 | @mikegrb> | right-o |
| 08:46 | @adamg> | I can just add those to the inital system set-up scripts |
| 08:55 | @adamg> | so what is stored in the portage tree, are the actual source files stored |
| 09:04 | @mikegrb> | just the ebuilds |
| 09:04 | @adamg> | and by the looks of it md5 checksum details etc |
| 09:05 | @mikegrb> | right |
| 09:05 | @adamg> | 12 meg for perl |
| 09:06 | @adamg> | also gentoo doesnt seem to have the usual rc0.d rc1.d .. etc folders |
| 09:13 | @adamg> | gentoo also seems to have a different method of handling multiple addresses on one eth |
| 09:21 | @mikegrb> | right |
| 09:21 | @mikegrb> | rc scripts are in /etc/init.d |
| 09:21 | @mikegrb> | runlevels have names |
| 09:21 | @mikegrb> | defualt runlevels are default nonetwork and boot |
| 09:22 | @mikegrb> | so symlinks go in /etc/runlevels/default to the script in /etc/init.d |
| 09:22 | @mikegrb> | you can do 'rc-update add mysqld default' |
| 09:23 | @adamg> | well it should be mysql.server .... |
| 09:23 | @mikegrb> | heh whatever it is called ;) |
| 09:23 | @adamg> | do you have to copy the boot script into /etc/init.d before you run rc-update |
| 09:23 | @mikegrb> | no |
| 09:24 | @mikegrb> | an ebuild that my need one will install one there |
| 09:24 | @adamg> | oh ok, you did with re-update.d on debian |
| 09:24 | @adamg> | but will the ebuild run rc-update |
| 09:24 | @mikegrb> | no |
| 09:24 | @mikegrb> | it is up to you to decide if you want it to start up or not |
| 09:24 | @mikegrb> | boot is just used for drivers |
| 09:24 | @adamg> | k |
| 09:25 | @mikegrb> | like if you need pcmcia-cs right away for net stuff later in default |
| 09:25 | @mikegrb> | that is another nice thing about gentoo |
| 09:25 | @mikegrb> | it doesn't do stuff behind your bacl :) |
| 09:25 | @mikegrb> | er back |
| 09:25 | wap> | mikegrb: iqdb.net is up now ;) |
| 09:26 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 09:26 | @mikegrb> | you saw? |
| 09:26 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 09:26 | @mikegrb> | I just did that |
| 09:26 | @mikegrb> | do you like the look? |
| 09:27 | @mikegrb> | wap: you might click blue haze at the bottom to see what it looks like with more stuff on the page |
| 09:27 | @adamg> | 404 error |
| 09:27 | wap> | ;) |
| 09:28 | @mikegrb> | hmmm |
| 09:28 | @mikegrb> | bah humbug |
| 09:28 | @mikegrb> | one moment please |
| 09:29 | @mikegrb> | how about some refresh action? |
| 09:29 | wap> | mikegrb: yep |
| 09:30 | @adamg> | mikegrb with the stuff in the rsync_exclude files does that stuff need to be uninstalled by hand |
| 09:30 | @mikegrb> | adamg: you mean if it is already installed? |
| 09:30 | @mikegrb> | or the files in /usr/portage? |
| 09:30 | @adamg> | yes |
| 09:30 | @adamg> | well in the default gentoo image it is installed |
| 09:30 | @mikegrb> | oh |
| 09:31 | @adamg> | well I think they are installed |
| 09:31 | @mikegrb> | I didn't think anything on that list of mine was already installed |
| 09:31 | @mikegrb> | you might try 'emerge gentoolkit' |
| 09:31 | @mikegrb> | that has some (IMHO) necessary portage tools |
| 09:31 | @mikegrb> | one of them being qpkg, qpkq -I will list everything installed :) |
| 09:32 | wap> | mikegrb: I don't really like the blue haze/purple haze. I find them too pale, not enough contrast. I'd suggest using some orange color, but it's a matter of taste after all ;) |
| 09:32 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 09:33 | @mikegrb> | I like the orange idea but I think it is best to stay away from orange |
| 09:33 | @mikegrb> | that is the original bash.org color :) |
| 09:33 | wap> | heh, I forgot this detail ;) |
| 09:34 | @mikegrb> | wap: http://www.oswd.org/viewdesign.phtml?id=1192&referer=/browse.php?page=1&sort=ratingdesc |
| 09:35 | @mikegrb> | wouldn't have the bar on the right |
| 09:35 | @mikegrb> | mainly the one on the top |
| 09:35 | @mikegrb> | and maybe the one on the left |
| 09:36 | wap> | mikegrb: or you could do a nifty script to let people choose a color they like |
| 09:36 | @mikegrb> | interesting idea |
| 09:36 | @mikegrb> | would still need a default |
| 09:36 | @mikegrb> | I like that idea though for people who log in |
| 09:36 | wap> | you could use a random color instead of a default one |
| 09:37 | wap> | or use the "plone" blue as default |
| 09:37 | @mikegrb> | heh :) |
| 09:37 | @mikegrb> | http://www.oswd.org/viewdesign.phtml?id=1163&referer=/browse.php?sort=ratingdesc&page=2 |
| 09:37 | @mikegrb> | that one is kind of nice |
| 09:38 | wap> | yep, much more than the previous one |
| 09:39 | tjfontaine> | mikegrb: I've got an idea I'll tell you about whence I get to work |
| 09:39 | @mikegrb> | sounds good |
| 09:39 | @mikegrb> | wap: I've seen a few that I kind of like but not for this site :/ |
| 09:39 | tjfontaine> | btw your cron job isn't working |
| 09:39 | @mikegrb> | tjfontaine: oh indeed |
| 09:39 | tjfontaine> | sighup g7 tjfontaine |
| 09:39 | @mikegrb> | tjfontaine: thanks |
| 09:39 | tjfontaine> | ;-) |
| 09:39 | tjfontaine> | shower time |
| 09:39 | tjfontaine> | talk to you later |
| 09:39 | @mikegrb> | cya |
| 09:40 | @mikegrb> | tjfontaine: there were some spawned processes hanging around that tricked my script |
| 09:40 | tjfontaine> | ah |
| 09:40 | @mikegrb> | I did a killall then killall -9 |
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| 09:41 | @mikegrb> | so next go 'round it should work |
| 09:41 | tjfontaine> | fun stuff |
| 09:41 | tjfontaine> | wee |
| 09:41 | @mikegrb> | heh there we go |
| 09:41 | tjfontaine> | cron++ |
| 09:41 | @mikegrb> | indeed |
| 09:46 | @adamg> | mikegrb so the emerge sync gets data for every package in portage |
| 09:48 | @adamg> | sighup seen cakaer |
| 09:48 | sighup> | I haven't seen 'cakaer', adamg |
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| 09:48 | @adamg> | sighup seen caker |
| 09:48 | sighup> | caker was last seen on #linode 1 hours, 36 minutes and 42 seconds ago, saying: å [1072185094] |
| 09:48 | @adamg> | well thats broken |
| 09:56 | caker> | sighup: hi |
| 09:56 | sighup> | what's up, caker. |
| 09:56 | @adamg> | caker you broke sighup |
| 09:57 | @adamg> | it doesnt like non ascii stuff |
| 10:02 | @mikegrb> | adamg: correct |
| 10:02 | @mikegrb> | sighup: seen caker |
| 10:02 | sighup> | caker was last seen on #linode 5 minutes and 55 seconds ago, saying: sighup: hi [1072191390] |
| 10:02 | @mikegrb> | :) |
| 10:02 | @adamg> | fixed when you rebooted sighup |
| 10:03 | @mikegrb> | aye |
| 10:03 | @adamg> | mikegrb it the portage tree the same for everyone? |
| 10:03 | @mikegrb> | yes |
| 10:03 | @adamg> | caker ping |
| 10:04 | @mikegrb> | though you can have your own ebuilds in the portage "overlay" dir |
| 10:04 | @mikegrb> | caker: you connected to the wrong server :< |
| 10:04 | @adamg> | which is in a seperate dir tree |
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| 10:05 | @mikegrb> | adamg: correct |
| 10:15 | * | adamg has questions and suggestions |
| 11:02 | @adamg> | caker ping |
| 11:09 | @adamg> | mikegrb ping |
| 11:09 | @mikegrb> | pong |
| 11:10 | tjfontaine> | I wanna play too |
| 11:10 | tjfontaine> | pong |
| 11:10 | @adamg> | if you emerge something and the change the global use flags, if something was effected by that change would the thing be re-emerged when an update world is done |
| 11:10 | @mikegrb> | | . | |
| 11:10 | @mikegrb> | adamg: no it will stay as is |
| 11:11 | tjfontaine> | | . | |
| 11:11 | @mikegrb> | there are tools in that gentoolkit for doing that though |
| 11:11 | @mikegrb> | | ` | |
| 11:11 | tjfontaine> | heheh |
| 11:11 | @mikegrb> | | | . |
| 11:11 | @mikegrb> | you lose! |
| 11:11 | @mikegrb> | loose |
| 11:12 | tjfontaine> | hehe |
| 11:12 | @mikegrb> | ack |
| 11:15 | @adamg> | why would an emerge sync delete thigns |
| 11:16 | @mikegrb> | um |
| 11:16 | @mikegrb> | it would delete stuff under /usr/portage |
| 11:16 | @mikegrb> | shouldn't delete anything else |
| 11:16 | @mikegrb> | it does an rsync with the server to make the portage dir match |
| 11:16 | @adamg> | metadata/cache/... |
| 11:17 | @mikegrb> | aye |
| 11:17 | @adamg> | so what is the difference between sync and rsync |
| 11:20 | @mikegrb> | well for a normal person 'emerge sync' == 'emerge rsync' |
| 11:20 | @mikegrb> | for special people 'emerge sync' does cvs checkouts and the like |
| 11:20 | @adamg> | so which one is best |
| 11:21 | @mikegrb> | well like I said for me and you it doesn't matter if we type 'emerge rsync' or 'emerge sync' :) |
| 11:31 | @mikegrb> | sighup: portage-rss |
| 11:31 | sighup> | mikegrb: rhythmbox 0.6.1-r1; faad2 2.0_rc3; gnome-light 2.4.1_p1; gnome 2.4.1_p1; gnome-mime-data 2.4.1; rhythmbox 0.6.3; openmotif 2.1.30-r3; isdn4k-utils 3.2_p1-r4; convertfs 20020318; speedtouch 1.2_beta3-r1; zlib 1.2.1-r2; dante 1.1.14-r2; wdm 1.22; wdm 1.25; wdm 1.26; siege 2.58; jasper 1.700.5-r1; Apache-Test 1.07; Tk-PNG 2.005; gtk-engines-xfce 2.1.6 |
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| 11:32 | * | jax_work is away: lunch |
| 11:46 | @adamg> | mikegrb in the your use flags you posted yesterday you had ipv6 in there, it that a valid use flag as it is not listed on the gentoo site |
| 11:50 | @adamg> | opps my bad, it is there |
| 12:25 | EFudd> | sighup: linode avail |
| 12:25 | sighup> | Linode availability -- [Linode 64: 28] [Linode 96: 0] [Linode 128: 17] [Linode 192: 0] [Linode 256: 0] |
| 12:29 | @adamg> | is there a complete list for the use flags I have found this one http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml but it does not list all of them |
| 12:30 | tjfontaine> | well |
| 12:30 | tjfontaine> | you could grep /usr/portage for IUSE= |
| 12:32 | @adamg> | it just does not list things like svga which is included in the default use for emerge |
| 12:32 | @adamg> | just want to know what it is used for and if I need it |
| 12:36 | @adamg> | i am been really stupid today |
| 12:51 | @mikegrb> | there is afile that lists them all |
| 12:51 | @mikegrb> | no silly grep'ing a huge dir tree ;) |
| 12:51 | @mikegrb> | I don't remember where it is though :< |
| 12:51 | @mikegrb> | check the make.conf where you set it and it should have a pointer to the file with the list |
| 13:07 | tjfontaine> | who wants to take a break and play a quick game of teg? |
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| 14:03 | @adamg> | my list of flags to use and not to use is rather long |
| 14:07 | tjfontaine> | you'll have that |
| 14:12 | @adamg> | there is alot in there default list that I just dont need |
| 14:12 | @adamg> | mainly all the graphic and sound support |
| 14:15 | artifex> | sighup ping tjfontaine |
| 14:15 | sighup> | tjfontaine: ping! ping! ping! |
| 14:15 | sighup> | tjfontaine was last seen on #xbox-linux 7 minutes and 13 seconds ago, saying: you don't even want to see... [1072206485] |
| 14:15 | tjfontaine> | what what what? |
| 14:15 | artifex> | hi hi hi |
| 14:15 | artifex> | need you to check a series of dds for me, tell me what im doing wrong |
| 14:15 | artifex> | up for it? |
| 14:16 | tjfontaine> | sure I can try |
| 14:16 | artifex> | ok, i'll msg |
| 14:16 | tjfontaine> | k |
| 14:29 | * | jax_work is back (gone 02:56:16) |
| 14:33 | @guinea-pig> | aha. wcg is much better today |
| 15:15 | @adamg> | is it worth using icc |
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| 15:41 | eurozip> | sighup, g7 eurozip |
| 15:41 | sighup> | #G7 stats for eurozip, the heh -- 37/112 Current Level: 40 | Time to next level: 0 days, 09:46:51 | Status: online | Item Total: 335 | Total Time Idled: 18 days, 04:56:30 |
| 15:49 | @guinea-pig> | sighup: g7 gp |
| 15:49 | sighup> | #G7 stats for gp, the Emperor of New England -- 9/112 Current Level: 45 | Time to next level: 4 days, 00:02:47 | Status: online | Item Total: 411 | Total Time Idled: 33 days, 21:53:35 |
| 15:50 | @guinea-pig> | 9!? |
| 15:50 | @guinea-pig> | i was 4th :< |
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| 15:57 | * | nick is away (spamming) |
| 16:06 | @guinea-pig> | uhhh |
| 16:07 | @adamg> | anyone used prelude ids? |
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| 16:12 | nick> | HAX |
| 16:12 | nick> | NO MORE HAX |
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| 16:39 | * | nick is back (yeah...and mad mad boy grips the microphone with a fist full of steel :]) |
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| 17:05 | @adamg> | caker ping |
| 17:05 | ~ | adamg set +o caker on #linode |
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| 17:31 | @guinea-pig> | ok, what host were they on? |
| 17:31 | tjfontaine> | not mine |
| 17:31 | @guinea-pig> | heh |
| 17:32 | tjfontaine> | I think maybe 9? |
| 17:32 | tjfontaine> | must be theshore |
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| 17:32 | rko> | I lost all connections to my linode |
| 17:32 | tjfontaine> | peace on earth goodwill to men, I'm outtie |
| 17:32 | tjfontaine> | which host rko? |
| 17:32 | rko> | host3 |
| 17:32 | tjfontaine> | <-- risto has quit (Ping timeout: 499 seconds) |
| 17:32 | tjfontaine> | <-- Quik has quit (Ping timeout: 482 seconds) |
| 17:32 | tjfontaine> | <-- wap has quit (Ping timeout: 482 seconds) |
| 17:32 | tjfontaine> | <-- EFudd has quit (Ping timeout: 499 seconds) |
| 17:33 | tjfontaine> | those folks did too :-) |
| 17:33 | rko> | but neither host2, host1 ping |
| 17:34 | rko> | route stops in dsr2-v2.dllstx2.theplanet.com (12.96.160.42) |
| 17:34 | @guinea-pig> | aha |
| 17:34 | @guinea-pig> | so we blame theplanet |
| 17:35 | @guinea-pig> | i bet they tripped over his power cord |
| 17:35 | guinea-pig | is now known as guinea-sleep |
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| 17:47 | @caker> | ... |
| 17:48 | @caker> | sighup: ping switch1.linode.com |
| 17:48 | sighup> | switch1: ping! ping! ping! |
| 17:48 | sighup> | I haven't seen 'switch1', caker |
| 17:48 | @caker> | ?? |
| 18:00 | Griswald> | sighup: g7 Griswald |
| 18:00 | sighup> | #G7 stats for Griswald, the MUD God -- 76/112 Current Level: 31 | Time to next level: 0 days, 14:14:33 | Status: online | Item Total: 246 | Total Time Idled: 4 days, 11:43:50 |
| 18:00 | Griswald> | =D |
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| 18:15 | @caker> | what a hassle... |
| 18:15 | @caker> | theplanet lost power |
| 18:16 | @adamg> | how the fuck did the planet loose pwoer |
| 18:16 | @adamg> | what happened to the ups and backup gens |
| 18:16 | @caker> | lost power == overloaded the circuit to the rack |
| 18:16 | @caker> | which is shared with someone else -- they're moving them off my circuit |
| 18:16 | @adamg> | oh so just your rack then |
| 18:17 | @adamg> | if they split racks they really should some sort of protection in place so that cant happen |
| 19:09 | @adamg> | portage seems to use a lot of space while building things |
| 19:19 | @adamg> | ping adhaero.hat-technologies.ltd.uk |
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| 19:35 | Quik> | caker |
| 19:35 | Quik> | i'm unable to communicate with the linode again on host2 |
| 19:37 | Quik> | :// |
| 19:40 | Quik> | for 2 to 3 hours this has been happening - anyone else with this problem? |
| 19:41 | @adamg> | whats the ip? |
| 19:41 | Quik> | and suddenly the linode has been powered off :/ |
| 19:41 | Quik> | 64.5.53.116 |
| 19:42 | @adamg> | all hosts at tp went |
| 19:42 | Quik> | it turned off a couple of minutes after i logged in with the username@host2.linode.com details |
| 19:42 | Quik> | :o |
| 19:42 | @adamg> | the circit tripped |
| 19:42 | @adamg> | check the forum |
| 19:42 | * | Quik slaps self |
| 19:42 | @caker> | host2 is just coming online |
| 19:42 | Quik> | sorry, i totally didnt think to check the forums |
| 19:43 | @caker> | posting a reply on the forums, but they had to move a bunch of machines around to isolate each customer on their own power circuit |
| 19:43 | @adamg> | sounds like there where a few people in your rack then |
| 19:44 | @caker> | One guy told me one other customer, and another told me two other customers |
| 19:46 | @adamg> | oh well at least it happened today and not some time over the next two |
| 19:46 | @caker> | phew ,.. all done |
| 19:47 | Quik> | all up at this end caker :) |
| 19:47 | @adamg> | this emerge world is starting to get a tad annoying |
| 19:47 | @caker> | I did find a bug in host2's network startup script, tho :) |
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| 19:52 | Quik> | can you claim on their 100% SLA or is this another thing thats not covered? |
| 19:52 | @caker> | 100% network sla :( |
| 19:52 | @mikegrb> | what rubbish |
| 19:52 | Quik> | that's so cheeky |
| 19:53 | @adamg> | very few things are covered under an sla! |
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| 19:55 | _Quik | is now known as Quik |
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| 19:56 | @mikegrb> | caker: just realized my ping user thingie stomps over my ping host thingie |
| 19:56 | @adamg> | well the ping thing does not seem to work |
| 19:57 | Quik> | can i have a shunt from the hand of god in g7 please? :< |
| 19:57 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 19:57 | @mikegrb> | sighup: ping adamg |
| 19:57 | sighup> | adamg: ping! ping! ping! |
| 19:57 | sighup> | adamg was last seen on #linode 59 seconds ago, saying: well the ping thing does not seem to work [1072227412] |
| 19:58 | @mikegrb> | heh I'll change a command |
| 19:58 | @mikegrb> | sighup: reset! |
| 19:58 | sighup> | mikegrb: Okay. |
| 19:58 | @mikegrb> | sighup: netping switch1.linode.com |
| 19:58 | sighup> | PING switch1.linode.com (64.5.53.4) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 19:58 | sighup> | 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4604ms |
| 19:58 | sighup> | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 50.492/50.724/50.973/0.297 ms |
| 19:59 | @caker> | sighup: cluebat theplanet |
| 19:59 | sighup> | caker: what? |
| 19:59 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 19:59 | @adamg> | arrah was using ping didnt relise it had been changed to netping |
| 19:59 | @mikegrb> | I changed it just now |
| 19:59 | @mikegrb> | it was ping |
| 19:59 | @adamg> | k |
| 19:59 | @mikegrb> | then I added ping to ping a person |
| 20:00 | @mikegrb> | totally forgetting that I had another plugin I wrote that used ping |
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| 20:12 | risto> | any LVM2 "experts"? |
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| 20:15 | @mikegrb> | heh not yet |
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| 20:15 | @mikegrb> | I need to look at the changes to upgrade my home server |
| 20:16 | risto> | seemingly it compliped fine in kernel, device-mapper seems to be fine etc |
| 20:16 | risto> | but when I try to enable logical volumes it pukes on me |
| 20:16 | risto> | kernel = 2.6.0. I'm upgrading from LVM1 & 2.4.23 |
| 20:17 | @mikegrb> | heh I need to do the same thing |
| 20:17 | risto> | save some time for it bud, it ain't quick... |
| 20:18 | risto> | something is messed up with my /dev/mapper/control |
| 20:19 | risto> | ls: /dev/mapper/control: Value too large for defined data type |
| 20:22 | risto> | maybe it is quick with simple instructions/HOWTO but haven't seen any good ones |
| 20:30 | risto> | # mknod --mode=600 /dev/mapper/control c 10 63 |
| 20:30 | risto> | # ls -l /dev/mapper/control |
| 20:31 | risto> | ls: /dev/mapper/control: Value too large for defined data type |
| 20:31 | risto> | why does that puke? |
| 20:32 | risto> | I must have old mknod |
| 20:32 | risto> | mknod (GNU fileutils) 4.0p |
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| 21:13 | @adamg> | hopefully this emerge world will be finished by the morning |
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| 21:21 | @adamg> | nite all |
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| 21:29 | @adamg> | sighup linode forums |
| 21:30 | sighup> | adamg: Feature Request/Bug Report: Global Gentoo portage ... ; Linode.com Announcements: ThePlanet Power Issue ... ; Sendmail and Email Related Forum: Setting up IMAP ; Sales Questions and Answers: Vertuozzo vs UML ; Feature Request/Bug Report: feature request: Host ... |
| 22:44 | Griswald> | .... |
| 22:44 | Griswald> | Somethin up with host13? |
| 22:44 | Griswald> | My linode just rebooted... |
| 22:46 | @caker> | ads |
| 22:46 | Griswald> | ? |
| 22:46 | @caker> | whoops |
| 22:47 | @caker> | your Linode rebooted on its own? |
| 22:47 | Griswald> | indeed. |
| 22:48 | Griswald> | I just checked the Job queue in members area too |
| 22:48 | Griswald> | last shutdown was when it did the migration |
| 22:48 | @caker> | erm . was there a job in the queue? |
| 22:48 | Griswald> | nope |
| 22:48 | Griswald> | only job in the queue was me starting it back up (just now) |
| 22:48 | @caker> | so it shutdown? |
| 22:48 | Griswald> | last activity was on the 18th I believe |
| 22:48 | Griswald> | it said server was going down for reboot |
| 22:48 | Griswald> | but never rebooted, just shut off |
| 22:49 | Griswald> | any ideas? |
| 22:49 | @caker> | if you got a message saying your Linode was rebooting, then someone issued a reboot inside your Linode |
| 22:49 | Griswald> | but I'm the only one in there =/ |
| 22:50 | Griswald> | and I \know\ I didn't reboot =/ |
| 22:53 | Griswald> | nm, apparently, a script got executed |
| 22:53 | Griswald> | that rebooted me |
| 22:53 | @caker> | ahhh |
| 22:53 | Griswald> | I just checked root's .bash_history to make sure and saw the scriptname :) |
| 22:54 | @caker> | hehe |
| 22:54 | Griswald> | my mistake :D |
| 22:54 | @caker> | I was going to suggest checking the historty |
| 22:54 | Griswald> | lol |
| 22:54 | @caker> | 'cause I couldnt find anything host-side |
| 22:54 | Griswald> | :P |
| 22:54 | * | caker can relax agaikn |
| 22:54 | vitrum> | tuff day after the planet's madness? :) |
| 22:55 | @caker> | man |
| 22:55 | * | Griswald slides caker a beer. |
| 22:55 | * | caker opens the beer and extinguishes the fire |
| 22:55 | vitrum> | haha |
| 22:56 | @caker> | brb |
| 22:56 | Griswald> | alright guys, I gotta work tomorrow |
| 22:56 | Griswald> | gotta get some sleep. |
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| 23:17 | EFudd> | hrmm |
| 23:17 | EFudd> | did hosts reboot tonight or something? |
| 23:17 | * | EFudd wants to know why his linode rebooted |
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| 23:20 | EFudd> | hmmm |
| 23:21 | EFudd> | I guess theplanet had power issues and didn't tell anyone?! |
| 23:29 | caker> | EFudd: check the linode forums |
| --- | Log | closed Wed Dec 24 00:00:56 2003 |
