| --- | Log | opened Wed Dec 17 00:00:10 2003 |
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| 00:12 | ElfStone> | sighup linode avail |
| 00:12 | sighup> | Linode availability -- [Linode 64: 39] [Linode 96: 1] [Linode 128: 18] [Linode 192: 0] [Linode 256: 0] |
| 00:12 | ElfStone> | hhe |
| 00:13 | ElfStone> | he got more servers |
| 00:16 | @mikegrb> | that was me |
| 00:16 | @mikegrb> | trying to get to the remote to turn on subtitles |
| 00:16 | @mikegrb> | er |
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| 02:20 | wap> | Morning. |
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| 02:44 | @mikegrb> | morning wap |
| 02:44 | wap> | Howdi Michael :) |
| 02:45 | @mikegrb> | I found a new addiction :) |
| 02:45 | wap> | tell me |
| 02:45 | @mikegrb> | making xHTML validate |
| 02:46 | @mikegrb> | I just spent a few hours making my whole site compliant |
| 02:46 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 02:46 | wap> | I insisted for the new Xbox Linux website should be xhtml valid, but manu and mist didn't really understand my point |
| 02:47 | @mikegrb> | bah! |
| 02:47 | @mikegrb> | I'll do it wap ;) |
| 02:47 | wap> | I found out that search engines loves it when it validates |
| 02:47 | @mikegrb> | for docs and what not that the look doesn't change I'll just commit the fixes |
| 02:47 | @mikegrb> | for anything that changes, expecially main page I'll send mist a patch |
| 02:48 | wap> | mikegrb: cool ;) |
| 02:48 | @mikegrb> | inkblot: it is jotun's fault |
| 02:48 | @mikegrb> | he lured me!!! |
| 02:48 | wap> | it's actually a good way to show we make web standards ours |
| 02:49 | @mikegrb> | aye |
| 02:51 | inkblot> | mikegrb, you fell for it! |
| 02:52 | @mikegrb> | bah! |
| 02:52 | inkblot> | *and* you don't have a talking client |
| 02:52 | @mikegrb> | it is all part of my elaborate plan |
| 02:52 | inkblot> | what, to keep me out of the top three? |
| 02:52 | @mikegrb> | yes |
| 02:52 | wap> | heh |
| 02:52 | inkblot> | i'm totally knockin' on drwiii's door |
| 02:52 | inkblot> | he's not even playing anymore |
| 02:53 | inkblot> | it's all but certain |
| 02:53 | inkblot> | drdink's, i mean |
| 02:53 | @mikegrb> | I'm #20 |
| 02:53 | inkblot> | so many doctors on slashnet |
| 02:53 | @mikegrb> | heh yes |
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| 03:19 | @guinea-sleep> | i suppose that bfd's already been over done |
| 03:20 | guinea-sleep | is now known as guinea-work |
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| 05:45 | wap> | mikegrb: there's a problem with the irc logs on your website |
| 06:54 | NeXTer> | Morning |
| 06:58 | @mikegrb> | wap: what is wrong? |
| 06:59 | @mikegrb> | hmm |
| 07:19 | wap> | mikegrb: it's ok now. did you do something? |
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| 07:38 | * | wap is away |
| 07:38 | You_Wish> | any available |
| 07:39 | @adamg> | any what available |
| 07:39 | You_Wish> | help |
| 07:39 | NeXTer> | sighup linode avail |
| 07:39 | sighup> | Linode availability -- [Linode 64: 39] [Linode 96: 1] [Linode 128: 18] [Linode 192: 0] [Linode 256: 0] |
| 07:39 | You_Wish> | for help |
| 07:39 | @adamg> | possibly |
| 07:40 | You_Wish> | k |
| 07:40 | You_Wish> | in apache |
| 07:40 | You_Wish> | i have two indexs |
| 07:40 | You_Wish> | example |
| 07:40 | You_Wish> | DocumentRoot /www/example.com |
| 07:41 | You_Wish> | DocumentRoot /www/foobar.com |
| 07:41 | You_Wish> | i dont get what those two are pointing at |
| 07:41 | You_Wish> | is that saying there are two index.html in /www folder |
| 07:42 | NeXTer> | The first one should be in the master server config, and the secons should be a virtualhost (read up on that directive in the docs) |
| 07:42 | @adamg> | they are not indexes |
| 07:42 | @adamg> | there should be one per site and point to the root dir where the files for the site are kept |
| 07:42 | You_Wish> | so i should name the page lick this example.com |
| 07:42 | NeXTer> | No |
| 07:42 | @adamg> | no example.com is a dir under www |
| 07:43 | NeXTer> | Name it index.html |
| 07:43 | You_Wish> | k |
| 07:43 | @adamg> | so you would put index.html in /www/example.com/index.html |
| 07:43 | You_Wish> | i get it |
| 07:43 | You_Wish> | thanks |
| 07:43 | You_Wish> | lights are coming on evey where |
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| 08:59 | @adamg> | 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 |
| 09:00 | @mikegrb> | sighup: ping host[0-14].linode.com |
| 09:00 | @mikegrb> | :) |
| 09:00 | @mikegrb> | he will just ignore that |
| 09:00 | @mikegrb> | b/c it has funny characters in it |
| 09:01 | @adamg> | i hate leaving problems for 3 mnths then coming back and trying to continue with them |
| 09:01 | @mikegrb> | sighup: ping host`seq 1 14`.linode.com |
| 09:01 | @mikegrb> | yup |
| 09:07 | @adamg> | that problems should be projects |
| 10:41 | @adamg> | arrah |
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| 11:09 | @adamg> | we want sighup, we want sighup |
| 11:10 | NeXTer> | We do? |
| 11:10 | @adamg> | yes |
| 11:23 | @adamg> | besides we sounds better than I |
| 11:24 | @adamg> | \b |
| 11:24 | @adamg> | dang |
| 11:28 | nick> | \b |
| 11:28 | nick> | o rly |
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| 11:51 | risto> | damm, godaddy's dns seems to be down again |
| 11:52 | @adamg> | another perfect reason for using your own :-) |
| 11:52 | @adamg> | or at least having ns2 somewhere else |
| 11:53 | risto> | yep, I have that for some domains with zoneedit |
| 11:53 | risto> | having them host two primaries, plus set 3rd as slave to linode |
| 11:54 | wap> | I keep hearing about godaddy. How much do they charge for a dot org/net/com per year? |
| 11:54 | @adamg> | zone edit are good esp if you only have 5 domains |
| 11:55 | risto> | wap, $7.95 |
| 11:55 | risto> | or $8.95? |
| 11:55 | risto> | not much |
| 11:56 | @adamg> | i will stick with my $7.10 |
| 11:56 | risto> | I transfered my domains there while ago from register. I'd not recommend using their DNS servers though. |
| 11:56 | inkblot> | and i will stick with my 10EUR |
| 11:56 | @adamg> | sighup is never here when you need him |
| 11:56 | inkblot> | about $13 |
| 11:57 | wap> | adamg: exactly what I was thinking ;) |
| 11:57 | inkblot> | i renewed a bunch of domains last month for a total of ten years between them |
| 11:57 | inkblot> | and the price was just over $130 |
| 11:57 | @adamg> | well 7.10 is about 5 GBP which is good |
| 11:58 | inkblot> | the thing i really like about gandi |
| 11:58 | inkblot> | is the terms of service |
| 11:58 | inkblot> | most registrars retain ownership of the domain and grant you a license to *use* it |
| 11:58 | inkblot> | gandi grants ownership of the domain |
| 11:59 | NeXTer> | Noone owns anything, it's a leasing deal |
| 11:59 | * | adamg goes to read registration aggremetns |
| 11:59 | wap> | I'm using OVH. It's a French comany offering damn good services. It's a pity for them they translated their website in Spanish only :/ |
| 11:59 | wap> | s/comany/company |
| 12:00 | NeXTer> | Typically French... |
| 12:00 | wap> | NeXTer: Not really. English usually comes as the 2nd language. |
| 12:01 | NeXTer> | Didn't you imply they didn't provide an English translation? |
| 12:01 | wap> | NeXTer: Yes I did |
| 12:02 | inkblot> | NeXTer, i think that was a response to "Typically French..." |
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| 12:02 | * | wap nods to inkblot |
| 12:02 | NeXTer> | Well, yes, but what's English being second language have to do with that? |
| 12:04 | inkblot> | ok |
| 12:04 | inkblot> | read again |
| 12:04 | wap> | I meant that most French websites being translated into foreign languages are translated into English 1st, then usually Spanish, etc. |
| 12:04 | NeXTer> | Ah |
| 12:05 | wap> | I guess most non English websites uses English as their 2nd choice... for obvious reasons... |
| 12:06 | NeXTer> | Quite |
| 12:10 | risto> | hmm, zoneedit dns don't seem very healthy either |
| 12:11 | inkblot> | you run the primary |
| 12:11 | inkblot> | i'll run the secondaries |
| 12:11 | inkblot> | i'm in pretty good health |
| 12:11 | risto> | heh, that might work |
| 12:11 | risto> | is your linode in HE or theplanet? |
| 12:12 | inkblot> | planet |
| 12:12 | inkblot> | and i have a second nameserver at home |
| 12:12 | risto> | I have DNS in home, too, but I rather not use it |
| 12:12 | inkblot> | and access to two run by friends |
| 12:12 | inkblot> | but i'd rather not bug them |
| 12:13 | NeXTer> | I think I have three DNS servers at the last count... |
| 12:14 | inkblot> | i run secondary for the iraq linux users group |
| 12:14 | inkblot> | (such as it is) |
| 12:14 | NeXTer> | Cool |
| 12:15 | inkblot> | oddly enough, that's on the server at home and *not* my linode |
| 12:15 | inkblot> | because don never set up transfers and ns records for the linode |
| 12:15 | NeXTer> | Be careful, someone might demand to search your home for WMDs :P |
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| 12:55 | @caker> | 14 hosts a-hosting |
| 12:55 | @caker> | 5 golden rings |
| 12:57 | NeXTer> | And a partridge in Mordor where the shadow lie? |
| 13:05 | @adamg> | sighup linode forums |
| 13:05 | sighup> | adamg: sorry... |
| 13:06 | @adamg> | here we go again |
| 13:06 | tjfontaine> | what evil lurks in the hearts of men, only the shadow knows |
| 13:06 | tjfontaine> | sighup: portage-rss |
| 13:06 | sighup> | tjfontaine: sorry... |
| 13:06 | tjfontaine> | silly absentminded bot |
| 13:18 | inkblot> | sighup, who knows is <reply>Only the Shadow knows. |
| 13:18 | sighup> | bugger all, i dunno, inkblot |
| 13:18 | inkblot> | sighup, knows is <reply>Only the Shadow knows. |
| 13:18 | sighup> | OK, inkblot. |
| 13:18 | inkblot> | sighup, cares is <reply>Only the Shadow cares. |
| 13:18 | sighup> | OK, inkblot. |
| 13:18 | inkblot> | sighup, Who cares? |
| 13:18 | sighup> | Only the Shadow cares. |
| 13:18 | inkblot> | botsnack |
| 13:19 | inkblot> | sighup, i said *botsnack* |
| 13:19 | sighup> | :) |
| 13:19 | * | inkblot pets sighup |
| 13:19 | inkblot> | * sighup purrs |
| 13:19 | inkblot> | ... |
| 13:19 | @caker> | 5 golden rings !!!! |
| 13:20 | inkblot> | sighup, wake up! |
| 13:20 | sighup> | inkblot: excuse me? |
| 13:20 | inkblot> | sighup, wakeup! |
| 13:20 | sighup> | inkblot: huh? |
| 13:20 | inkblot> | sighup, wakeup |
| 13:20 | sighup> | OK, inkblot, I'll start talking. |
| 13:20 | inkblot> | who knows? |
| 13:20 | inkblot> | :< |
| 13:20 | inkblot> | sighup, shutup |
| 13:20 | sighup> | Sorry, inkblot, I'll keep my mouth shut. |
| 13:20 | inkblot> | this bot sucks |
| 13:20 | inkblot> | * inkblot pets Dumont |
| 13:20 | inkblot> | * Dumont purrs |
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| 13:30 | nick> | omg |
| 13:30 | risto> | godaddy DNS is finally ip |
| 13:31 | risto> | up rather |
| 13:31 | inkblot> | t/hee |
| 13:32 | inkblot> | sighup, now is <reply>Now we pray. |
| 13:32 | sighup> | OK, inkblot. |
| 13:32 | inkblot> | sighup, now what? |
| 13:32 | sighup> | Now we pray. |
| 13:32 | inkblot> | sighup, what now? |
| 13:32 | sighup> | Now we pray. |
| 13:32 | inkblot> | sighup, botsnack |
| 13:32 | sighup> | :) |
| 13:32 | nick> | sighup: inkblot breaks easily |
| 13:32 | sighup> | nick: what? |
| 13:33 | nick> | sighup: inkblot is easily broken |
| 13:33 | sighup> | OK, nick. |
| 13:33 | nick> | ;] |
| 13:33 | inkblot> | nick-- |
| 13:33 | inkblot> | nick-- |
| 13:33 | inkblot> | nick-- |
| 13:33 | inkblot> | nick-- |
| 13:33 | inkblot> | nick-- |
| 13:33 | ! | inkblot was kicked from #linode by guinea-work (3 repeats in -587 miliseconds of 500 ms.) |
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| 13:33 | nick> | wtg |
| 13:33 | inkblot> | nick-- |
| 13:33 | inkblot> | nick-- |
| 13:33 | inkblot> | sighup, karma nick |
| 13:33 | sighup> | nick has karma of -7 |
| 13:34 | nick> | oh my no, i have negative karma! whatever will i do |
| 13:35 | inkblot> | die and come back a toad |
| 13:35 | nick> | o rly |
| 13:39 | @caker> | HE took care of bandwidth issue |
| 13:40 | inkblot> | all of the bandwidth issues? |
| 13:40 | @caker> | Going back to October, yes |
| 13:40 | inkblot> | sweeeet |
| 13:41 | @caker> | two cabinet's cabinetting |
| 13:41 | @caker> | FIVE golden rings!! |
| 13:41 | @caker> | (someone shoot me) |
| 13:41 | inkblot> | ha ha |
| 13:41 | inkblot> | maybe sighup will |
| 13:41 | inkblot> | try rr |
| 13:42 | inkblot> | actually, |
| 13:42 | nick> | rr |
| 13:42 | inkblot> | sighup needs halfops |
| 13:42 | sighup> | inkblot: excuse me? |
| 13:42 | nick> | sighup needs rewritten in something other than perl |
| 13:42 | sighup> | nick: excuse me? |
| 13:42 | @caker> | don't blame the language :) |
| 13:42 | nick> | ;) |
| 13:42 | nick> | sighup: perl? |
| 13:42 | sighup> | nick: bugger all, i dunno |
| 13:42 | nick> | sighup: perl is suq |
| 13:42 | sighup> | OK, nick. |
| 13:43 | @caker> | I received a label maker from HE for xmas .. |
| 13:43 | nick> | oh my god |
| 13:44 | inkblot> | ¡¿!? |
| 13:45 | nick> | there was just this fuckin bubbly |
| 13:45 | nick> | college girl |
| 13:45 | nick> | who just spewed paragraph after paragprah at us |
| 13:46 | nick> | and we're all just kind of looking at her like 'duhhh' |
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| 13:46 | nick> | i hate transient vendors |
| 13:46 | @caker> | hello milo |
| 13:47 | milo> | hey |
| 13:47 | milo> | my copy of DNS and BIND came today. the g/f looked at me like i was a the biggest dork when I started to read it. :) |
| 13:48 | @caker> | oreilly? |
| 13:48 | nick> | eh |
| 13:48 | nick> | you are a dork for reading it ;] |
| 13:48 | * | nick hides his copy |
| 13:49 | milo> | yeah i know. i just dont want *her* to know that. heh |
| 13:49 | @caker> | Tell her this is the day and age where geeks have sex appeal (and money) |
| 13:49 | nick> | they do? and they do? |
| 13:49 | @caker> | (that's a quote from my father) |
| 13:49 | nick> | i thought that day was gone, with the 'burst of the 'dotcom bubble'' |
| 13:50 | nick> | to use 2 cliches in one sentence |
| 13:50 | milo> | well, i do have a lot of charisma. |
| 13:50 | * | milo struts. |
| 13:51 | nick> | sighup: karma milo |
| 13:51 | sighup> | milo has neutral karma |
| 13:51 | nick> | apparently not my friend! |
| 13:53 | milo> | :( |
| 13:53 | milo> | where does sighup look? |
| 13:55 | risto> | if you have DNS zone file serial number mismatch between authoritative DNS servers, does that matter? |
| 13:56 | risto> | it might matter if they have secondaries but in this case they only have clients' dns servers hitting them |
| 13:56 | risto> | right? |
| 13:57 | nick> | i dont know |
| 13:57 | inkblot> | why don't they match? |
| 13:58 | risto> | what I am doing is this: I added 3rd dns server to my godaddy's CP & whois/root zone |
| 13:58 | risto> | but godaddy won't let me secondary |
| 13:58 | risto> | so I have different zonefile edited locally on my own server |
| 13:58 | inkblot> | that sounds really stupid |
| 13:58 | risto> | I know |
| 13:59 | risto> | this is only intermediate step |
| 13:59 | inkblot> | good |
| 13:59 | inkblot> | it would be really dumb to keep doing that for long |
| 13:59 | risto> | the problem moving all at once is that if I remove godaddy's dns servers from root zone they might decide to stop serving that domain immediately |
| 14:00 | risto> | before the ns have been changed in root zone |
| 14:00 | inkblot> | is there some way you can make godaddy allow zone transfers? |
| 14:00 | risto> | I could certainly ask |
| 14:00 | inkblot> | do that |
| 14:00 | risto> | I already opened ticket and nagged about the outage... |
| 14:01 | risto> | the plan B is this: |
| 14:02 | risto> | step 1: add 3rd DNS server as nameserver |
| 14:02 | risto> | step 2: wait till it works |
| 14:02 | risto> | step 3: nuke #1 and #2 and change to zoneedit or something else |
| 14:03 | risto> | if I'll get to secondary godaddy like you suggest (thanks!), I'll just change my own to be secondary |
| 14:03 | risto> | that way I'll have some redundancy at least |
| 14:38 | probonic> | sighup: karma probonic |
| 14:38 | sighup> | probonic has neutral karma |
| 14:38 | probonic> | probonic++ |
| 14:41 | tjfontaine> | tsk tsk tsk |
| 14:41 | probonic> | was curious lol |
| 14:48 | EFudd> | http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/South/12/16/offbeat.students.ap/index.html |
| 14:50 | tjfontaine> | hahaah |
| 14:50 | probonic> | rofl silly bugger |
| 14:53 | inkblot> | http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/South/12/16/offbeat.students.ap/index.html <-- drwiii |
| 14:53 | inkblot> | mcm |
| 14:53 | inkblot> | sighup, mcm is multi-channel madness |
| 14:53 | sighup> | OK, inkblot. |
| 14:54 | tjfontaine> | sighup: mcm? |
| 14:54 | sighup> | i guess mcm is multi-channel madness |
| 14:54 | @guinea-work> | huzzah! |
| 14:54 | tjfontaine> | sighup: portage-rss? |
| 14:54 | sighup> | wish i knew, tjfontaine |
| 14:54 | @guinea-work> | sighup: g7 gp |
| 14:54 | sighup> | #G7 stats for gp, the Emperor of New England -- 3/109 Current Level: 44 | Time to next level: 2 days, 22:49:16 | Status: online | Item Total: 411 | Total Time Idled: 28 days, 11:56:15 |
| 14:54 | @guinea-work> | #3 :D |
| 15:01 | guinea-work | is now known as guinea-pig |
| 15:14 | * | tjfontaine downs more caffeine |
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| 16:02 | Garry-> | caker u around |
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| 16:34 | ElfStone> | sighup linode avail |
| 16:34 | sighup> | Linode availability -- [Linode 64: 38] [Linode 96: 1] [Linode 128: 18] [Linode 192: 0] [Linode 256: 0] |
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| 16:52 | tjfontaine> | poor guinea-pig |
| 16:52 | tjfontaine> | <bot> Thereupon He stretched out His little finger among them and consumed gp with fire, slowing the heathen 0 days, 08:57:19 from level 45. |
| 16:52 | tjfontaine> | <bot> gp reaches next level in 3 days, 05:50:35. |
| 16:52 | tjfontaine> | noone even summoned it |
| 16:56 | @guinea-pig> | i'll show you consuming with fire!!!! |
| 16:56 | * | guinea-pig burns bot |
| 16:56 | @guinea-pig> | BURN DAMN YOU |
| 16:57 | tjfontaine> | heh |
| 16:57 | * | guinea-pig hates his home innurdnet connection |
| 16:57 | You_Wish> | anybody use a cheap pay system over the internet or have some recommendations |
| 16:58 | Griswald> | http://www.paypal.com |
| 16:58 | tjfontaine> | send all your monies to tjfontaine@paypal.com |
| 16:58 | Griswald> | :P |
| 16:58 | Garry-> | lol |
| 16:58 | Griswald> | I'm thinkin about usin CCBill when I actually get real customers :) |
| 16:58 | @guinea-pig> | tjfontaine: what a very zim-like thing to say |
| 16:58 | Griswald> | ZIM! |
| 16:58 | Griswald> | YAY! |
| 16:58 | @guinea-pig> | are you a porn site? |
| 16:58 | Griswald> | no |
| 16:58 | Griswald> | :) |
| 16:59 | tjfontaine> | zim? |
| 16:59 | @guinea-pig> | i've only seen ccbill on porn sit... wait, i'm not gonna say that |
| 16:59 | Griswald> | LOL |
| 16:59 | Garry-> | lol |
| 16:59 | @guinea-pig> | "GIVE ME ALL YOUR MONIES, PUNY EARTH SLIME" |
| 16:59 | Griswald> | YAY |
| 16:59 | @guinea-pig> | tjfontaine: invader zim, was on nickelodeon for a bit |
| 16:59 | tjfontaine> | ah |
| 16:59 | Griswald> | YYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY, I'm gonna be siiiiccccckkkkk |
| 16:59 | * | tjfontaine nods |
| 16:59 | @guinea-pig> | johnen vasquez |
| 16:59 | Griswald> | I have all of Series one and Two here on my comp |
| 16:59 | Griswald> | :) |
| 17:00 | Griswald> | 50 MB/ep |
| 17:00 | @guinea-pig> | sigh |
| 17:00 | @guinea-pig> | (cable internet)-- |
| 17:00 | Griswald> | heh |
| 17:00 | Griswald> | I have cable.... |
| 17:00 | Griswald> | its just not workin right now |
| 17:00 | Griswald> | lol |
| 17:00 | @guinea-pig> | i can't upload for shit |
| 17:00 | tjfontaine> | ya |
| 17:00 | Griswald> | I could upload at 30k/s |
| 17:00 | tjfontaine> | (dsl upload speed)++ |
| 17:00 | Griswald> | but since I'm on temp dialup until cable modem gets fixed... =/ |
| 17:01 | @guinea-pig> | of course, i've limited it a bit so stuff like irc and im |
| 17:01 | @guinea-pig> | aren't laggy |
| 17:01 | @guinea-pig> | DOWNLINK=720 |
| 17:01 | @guinea-pig> | UPLINK=120 |
| 17:02 | Garry-> | Griswald you may want to look at 2checkout.com |
| 17:03 | Garry-> | for payment system |
| 17:03 | @guinea-pig> | what's wrong with paypal? :p |
| 17:03 | Griswald> | YAY! |
| 17:03 | nick> | WOOT |
| 17:03 | Griswald> | they are awesome, cuz they have a comic! |
| 17:04 | nick> | \\'o0+ |
| 17:04 | * | Griswald dances. |
| 17:06 | nick> | sighup: linode avail |
| 17:06 | sighup> | Linode availability -- [Linode 64: 38] [Linode 96: 1] [Linode 128: 18] [Linode 192: 0] [Linode 256: 0] |
| 17:06 | nick> | or something |
| 17:06 | nick> | o rly |
| 17:06 | @guinea-pig> | only took 9:47 to upload an 8m file |
| 17:06 | * | guinea-pig cries |
| 17:07 | tjfontaine> | ya, only a few more tasks and I will have rid myself of that awful box on rackshack |
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| 17:11 | nick> | http://codeproject.com/ |
| 17:11 | nick> | lolz |
| 17:11 | nick> | looks like someone has a bit of a problem |
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| 17:15 | tjfontaine> | damn you courier-imap, damn you straight to hell |
| 17:25 | NeXTer> | Eh? |
| 17:26 | NeXTer> | I'd say it's a very well-behaved piece of software |
| 17:27 | EFudd> | use cyrus |
| 17:27 | EFudd> | :P |
| 17:28 | NeXTer> | Now _that_ is a real nightmare to get running... Courier you just install and it works... |
| 17:31 | tjfontaine> | I used to think so |
| 17:31 | tjfontaine> | now its acting silly |
| 17:31 | NeXTer> | Oh? |
| 17:31 | EFudd> | my cyrus just worke |
| 17:31 | EFudd> | d |
| 17:31 | EFudd> | ;-) |
| 17:31 | tjfontaine> | just doesn't want look at my /var/spool/mail/<user> |
| 17:31 | EFudd> | i mean, it just required reading. |
| 17:31 | tjfontaine> | :/ |
| 17:31 | @guinea-pig> | hahah /var/spool/mail |
| 17:31 | NeXTer> | Uhm |
| 17:31 | @guinea-pig> | FHS says it's /var/mail now |
| 17:31 | NeXTer> | What's your mail doing in there? |
| 17:32 | tjfontaine> | ummm thats where mail gets delivered |
| 17:32 | NeXTer> | Normally it's /home/username/Maildir |
| 17:32 | inkblot> | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Mar 8 2003 /var/mail -> spool/mail/ |
| 17:32 | inkblot> | ha ha maildir |
| 17:32 | inkblot> | well, yeah |
| 17:32 | inkblot> | if you're using maildir |
| 17:32 | @guinea-pig> | MY EYES! |
| 17:32 | NeXTer> | Ick! |
| 17:32 | inkblot> | which is *not* usual |
| 17:32 | tjfontaine> | well, usually what happens is... postfix -> spool -> courier -> maildir |
| 17:33 | @guinea-pig> | don't mention the m word again |
| 17:33 | * | NeXTer pours a bottle of ink over inkblot |
| 17:33 | @guinea-pig> | inkblot becomes inkstain |
| 17:34 | NeXTer> | What silly order is that? |
| 17:34 | @guinea-pig> | any order with maildir is silly, shirly |
| 17:34 | inkblot> | tjfontaine, normally it should be postfix -> courier -> whereever courier puts it |
| 17:34 | tjfontaine> | inkblot: in theory yes... |
| 17:34 | NeXTer> | postfix -> spamc -> procmail -> Maildir... Courier just servers the mails |
| 17:34 | @guinea-pig> | haha spamc |
| 17:34 | @guinea-pig> | oh wait |
| 17:34 | inkblot> | tjfontaine, in practice! |
| 17:34 | @guinea-pig> | tha'ts inkblot's line |
| 17:35 | inkblot> | ha ha spamc |
| 17:35 | @guinea-pig> | thank you |
| 17:35 | @guinea-pig> | i still haven't converted :< |
| 17:35 | tjfontaine> | postfix -> amavisd -> sophie -> spamc -> procmail -> <mail box> |
| 17:35 | inkblot> | i uninstalled that abomination a year ago |
| 17:35 | inkblot> | postfix |
| 17:35 | inkblot> | v |
| 17:35 | inkblot> | procmail -> lots of things -> back to procmail |
| 17:35 | @guinea-pig> | exim -> procmail |
| 17:35 | inkblot> | v |
| 17:36 | inkblot> | some mbox |
| 17:36 | inkblot> | so yeah, |
| 17:36 | inkblot> | basically postfix -> procmail |
| 17:36 | * | tjfontaine nods |
| 17:36 | NeXTer> | Haha mbox |
| 17:36 | NeXTer> | :P |
| 17:36 | EFudd> | i'm using postfix->spampd->cyrus |
| 17:36 | EFudd> | works well. |
| 17:36 | inkblot> | oh no, not a *standard* |
| 17:36 | inkblot> | *gasp* |
| 17:36 | @guinea-pig> | heh |
| 17:36 | @guinea-pig> | standards? you must be an idealist commie pig |
| 17:37 | @guinea-pig> | paraphrase of what my father said to me a month ago |
| 17:37 | EFudd> | and sieve for mail filtering. |
| 17:37 | tjfontaine> | amavisd from your master.cf is fun... allows virus checking for in and out |
| 17:37 | inkblot> | ha ha viruses |
| 17:37 | @guinea-pig> | haha virus checking |
| 17:37 | tjfontaine> | ok I seriously missed something |
| 17:37 | * | NeXTer suspects the conversation of turning silly |
| 17:39 | @guinea-pig> | stupid gnome intercepting F10 |
| 17:39 | * | guinea-pig beats up teh ngome |
| 17:40 | inkblot> | NeXTer, it's been amusing, but not silly |
| 17:40 | NeXTer> | Oh, that's alright then |
| 17:40 | @guinea-pig> | hmm. brandeis. i wonder who i know there |
| 17:40 | inkblot> | the crap people do with their mail is pretty damn ha-ha sometimes |
| 17:40 | @guinea-pig> | X-If-You-See-This: You are smrt |
| 17:41 | Griswald> | :D |
| 17:41 | Griswald> | am I smart? :) |
| 17:41 | @guinea-pig> | X-Not: not! |
| 17:41 | Griswald> | awwww...... |
| 17:41 | * | Griswald cries cuz GP made me feel bad ;'( |
| 17:41 | inkblot> | i had a "X-Fling-Poo-To" header inserted to messages to a particular mailing list |
| 17:41 | @guinea-pig> | Griswald: if you only knew |
| 17:41 | Griswald> | I do! |
| 17:42 | @guinea-pig> | crying because *I* made you feel bad |
| 17:42 | @guinea-pig> | is just wrong |
| 17:42 | Griswald> | YESH! I KNOW! :D |
| 17:42 | inkblot> | X-Suspect: Elbows |
| 17:43 | @guinea-pig> | i have a few i stole ages ago from nick |
| 17:44 | inkblot> | he used to have a lot more |
| 17:44 | inkblot> | i like the X-pw header in flynn's Muttrc |
| 17:44 | inkblot> | i use it on goose |
| 17:45 | @guinea-pig> | oh yeah. i remember that one |
| 17:45 | @guinea-pig> | for some reason, i don't think "X-Battle-Cry: Spoon!" is one of his |
| 17:48 | inkblot> | no, probably not |
| 17:48 | @guinea-pig> | ddate is, though |
| 17:48 | inkblot> | i realized something about bogofilter a few weeks ago, actually |
| 17:48 | inkblot> | it will *never* block anything from pedro |
| 17:48 | @guinea-pig> | oh? |
| 17:48 | inkblot> | because of that X-pw header |
| 17:48 | @guinea-pig> | ! |
| 17:48 | @guinea-pig> | because it exists, or what it's set to? |
| 17:49 | inkblot> | the password has to have incredibly high spam karma by now |
| 17:49 | inkblot> | "reindeer flotilla" |
| 17:49 | tjfontaine> | can someone bounce me a piece of spam to tjfontaine@atxconsulting.com |
| 17:49 | tjfontaine> | por favor |
| 17:49 | inkblot> | how many you want? |
| 17:49 | @guinea-pig> | sorry, my spam's deleted |
| 17:49 | tjfontaine> | 5 please |
| 17:50 | tjfontaine> | and thank you |
| 17:50 | inkblot> | 17 # file the mail to spam-bogofilter if it's spam. |
| 17:50 | inkblot> | 18 :0c |
| 17:50 | inkblot> | 19 * ^X-Bogosity: Yes, tests=bogofilter |
| 17:50 | inkblot> | 20 !tjfontaine@atxconsulting.com |
| 17:51 | inkblot> | let me know when to shut it off |
| 17:51 | tjfontaine> | k |
| 17:51 | @guinea-pig> | haha |
| 17:51 | tjfontaine> | ;-) |
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| 17:55 | tjfontaine> | neat |
| 17:55 | tjfontaine> | X-Bogosity: Yes, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=1.000000, version=0.15.8X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at atxconsulting.comX-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=11.0 tagged_above=3.0 required=6.3 tests=DATE_IN_FUTURE_03_06, DATE_SPAMWARE_Y2K, GAPPY_SUBJECT, MISSING_MIMEOLE, PRIORITY_NO_NAME |
| 17:56 | Griswald> | back after college, guys. :) |
| 17:56 | Griswald> | tonights classes are supposed to be 15 minutes long :P |
| 17:56 | tjfontaine> | inkblot: lets leave it up over night if thats alright with you? |
| 17:57 | Griswald> | so... back in about an hour :) |
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| 17:57 | inkblot> | sure |
| 17:57 | tjfontaine> | gracias |
| 17:57 | inkblot> | day nodder |
| 17:58 | artifex> | tjfontaine, mikegrb, etc: ever used myHTPC ? |
| 17:58 | tjfontaine> | no, what is? |
| 17:58 | artifex> | http://myhtpc.net |
| 17:59 | tjfontaine> | what is it written in? |
| 17:59 | artifex> | i just discovered it... |
| 17:59 | artifex> | actually gives myth a run for it's money. :-) |
| 17:59 | artifex> | dunno... it's free, but not Free :-\ |
| 17:59 | tjfontaine> | I noticed |
| 18:00 | @guinea-pig> | anyone here familiar with king's quest? |
| 18:00 | artifex> | but... install was a breeze (a nice change from mythtv, lol)... and some of the plugins are QUITE nifty indeed |
| 18:01 | tjfontaine> | will it work with my mjpeg card? |
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| 18:01 | artifex> | probably. if not, there's a plugin that uses nifty tricks to transparently schedule with vendors' software |
| 18:01 | tjfontaine> | aaaahhh, windows? |
| 18:02 | artifex> | ;-) |
| 18:02 | * | artifex heads home. bbiab. |
| 18:03 | inkblot> | oh my |
| 18:03 | inkblot> | tjfontaine, prepare for deluge |
| 18:03 | inkblot> | i just ran fetchyahoo |
| 18:03 | tjfontaine> | k |
| 18:03 | inkblot> | Getting Message ID(s) for message(s) 1 - 50. |
| 18:03 | inkblot> | Getting Message ID(s) for message(s) 51 - 100. |
| 18:03 | inkblot> | Getting Message ID(s) for message(s) 101 - 150. |
| 18:03 | inkblot> | Getting Message ID(s) for message(s) 151 - 174. |
| 18:03 | inkblot> | Got 174 Message IDs |
| 18:04 | tjfontaine> | hehe |
| 18:04 | @guinea-pig> | haha yahoo |
| 18:04 | inkblot> | it'll be all spam |
| 18:05 | @adamg> | caker ping |
| 18:06 | tjfontaine> | someone should setup sig'y to reply with a seen caker when someone does caker ping |
| 18:06 | tjfontaine> | sighup: seen caker |
| 18:06 | sighup> | caker was last seen on #linode 4 hours, 16 minutes and 51 seconds ago, saying: (that's a quote from my father) [1071686989] |
| 18:07 | @caker> | adamg: yo |
| 18:07 | @guinea-pig> | man |
| 18:07 | @guinea-pig> | what is it with all the lamers using the nick Neo? |
| 18:07 | inkblot> | ha ha |
| 18:07 | @adamg> | caker: I think there is a bug in your billing system |
| 18:07 | @guinea-pig> | IT'S BEEN DONE |
| 18:07 | inkblot | is now known as Neo242 |
| 18:08 | Neo242> | no one's done this before, i'm sure |
| 18:08 | @guinea-pig> | 242 sighting! |
| 18:08 | Neo242> | :D |
| 18:08 | @caker> | adamg: what do you think? |
| 18:08 | NeXTer> | He just said that |
| 18:09 | @caker> | ...is the problem |
| 18:09 | NeXTer> | :P |
| 18:09 | tjfontaine> | heh |
| 18:09 | @caker> | don't cross me, or I'll start singing the 12 days of Linode again |
| 18:09 | NeXTer> | Eek! |
| 18:09 | * | NeXTer hides |
| 18:09 | guinea-pig | is now known as neoarsphenamine |
| 18:09 | @adamg> | caker my account is 19.95 in created due to that double billing problem |
| 18:10 | @caker> | right |
| 18:10 | @adamg> | but when I added an extra gig of hd to my account, my CC was charged instead of the amount been taken off the credit in my account |
| 18:11 | @neoarsphenamine> | heh |
| 18:12 | @adamg> | it may not be a bug, but it just seems strange you would charge the CC and incur processing charges than debit off the account |
| 18:13 | @caker> | that's a know bug -- I thought I mentioned when we talked about your credit .. |
| 18:13 | @caker> | but I guess not -- :) |
| 18:13 | NeXTer> | Oh, I see... No wonder I got spam... spamd wasn't running... |
| 18:13 | @adamg> | you might have done, but that was ages ago |
| 18:14 | @adamg> | caker you took over clients from another company |
| 18:15 | @caker> | Yes, a while back |
| 18:16 | Neo242 | is now known as inkblot |
| 18:21 | tjfontaine> | man, only 118 of that 147 were detected as spam |
| 18:22 | inkblot> | bummer |
| 18:22 | inkblot> | bogofilter caught them all |
| 18:23 | inkblot> | all *174* that is |
| 18:23 | @neoarsphenamine> | haha |
| 18:23 | tjfontaine> | oops |
| 18:23 | tjfontaine> | hmm |
| 18:23 | @neoarsphenamine> | hmm. i can't spell my name |
| 18:23 | inkblot> | your server rejected three of them |
| 18:23 | neoarsphenamine | is now known as guinea-pig |
| 18:23 | tjfontaine> | I noticed |
| 18:23 | inkblot> | invalid characters in the subject |
| 18:23 | * | inkblot shrugs |
| 18:23 | tjfontaine> | aye |
| 18:23 | inkblot> | spamo de china |
| 18:23 | @guinea-pig> | i have messages fetchmail won't fetch |
| 18:24 | @adamg> | caker: what do you know of bytemark hosing> |
| 18:24 | tjfontaine> | 55 missed spam |
| 18:24 | @guinea-pig> | bad FromL or something |
| 18:24 | tjfontaine> | sighup: 55 / 174 |
| 18:24 | sighup> | 0.316091954022989 |
| 18:24 | @adamg> | s/hosing>/hosting? |
| 18:24 | @caker> | adamg: in what sense? |
| 18:24 | @adamg> | reputation |
| 18:24 | tjfontaine> | anyway I'm late for more work... talk to everyone later |
| 18:25 | @caker> | no reputation, afaik, which is probably good |
| 18:25 | @adamg> | are they active in the uml community |
| 18:25 | @caker> | I often see Matthew Bloch post on the uml mailing lists -- we've exchanged a few times |
| 18:28 | @adamg> | I may be forced to use a UK host |
| 18:28 | NeXTer> | Forced? |
| 18:28 | @adamg> | yep |
| 18:30 | NeXTer> | Any particular reason? |
| 18:30 | @adamg> | UK law |
| 18:30 | @caker> | ? |
| 18:31 | NeXTer> | Uh... |
| 18:31 | @adamg> | well more specificly the Data Protection Act |
| 18:31 | @adamg> | govens disclousure and storage locations and means of data provided by customers etc |
| 18:32 | NeXTer> | Oh, that one... Sheesh... |
| 18:32 | NeXTer> | Another case of legislation having no connection whatsoever with reality... |
| 18:35 | @adamg> | there are reasons for it etc, probably will not be a problem storing data in the US as long as it is mentioned the privacy policy |
| 18:36 | NeXTer> | Most likely. None of the people I know in the UK worry overly about it |
| 18:37 | @adamg> | that is not really the point |
| 18:38 | NeXTer> | Sorry, I seem to be getting increasingly cynical this evening... Damn cold! *mutter* |
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| 19:00 | ~ | ChanServ set +o adamgent on #linode |
| 19:00 | adamg | is now known as Guest44 |
| 19:01 | @adamgent> | sighup g7 adamg |
| 19:01 | sighup> | Sorry, I don't know anything about a adamg |
| 19:01 | @adamgent> | sighup g7 adamgent |
| 19:01 | sighup> | #G7 stats for adamgent, the sleepy -- 22/109 Current Level: 41 | Time to next level: 1 days, 19:28:11 | Status: online | Item Total: 362 | Total Time Idled: 23 days, 06:22:30 |
| 19:01 | @adamgent> | sighup g7 Guest44 |
| 19:01 | sighup> | #G7 stats for adamgent, the sleepy -- 22/109 Current Level: 41 | Time to next level: 1 days, 19:28:01 | Status: online | Item Total: 362 | Total Time Idled: 23 days, 06:22:40 |
| 19:01 | adamgent | is now known as adamg |
| 19:11 | guinea-pig | is now known as guinea-sleep |
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| 19:15 | Griswald> | hey guys :) |
| 19:16 | @caker> | hello |
| 19:16 | Griswald> | 'sup caker? |
| 19:16 | @caker> | the usual -- you? |
| 19:18 | Griswald> | same old same old |
| 19:18 | Griswald> | a night of wine and song, but no women =/ |
| 19:19 | @adamg> | any news on your new power connection, caker |
| 19:19 | * | Griswald goes to his fridge to grab a nice "Cold One", as Strong Bad would say. |
| 19:19 | @caker> | I'm debating what to do, actually. They read my current power usage -- 10 amps with only 6 servers, a switch, and two baytech units |
| 19:20 | @adamg> | have you shipped the two new hosts? |
| 19:20 | @caker> | I find it a total waste to purchase a full cabinet and only use 10 Us or so |
| 19:20 | @caker> | Not yet, we were still talking about power today (got my reading today) |
| 19:21 | Griswald> | and your on a 20 amp circuit? or 15 amp? |
| 19:21 | @caker> | a 15 |
| 19:21 | Griswald> | eeg |
| 19:21 | Griswald> | you'd only be able to add one more server, really.... |
| 19:21 | @caker> | So safely could add two more servers, but that would waste the RPC unit I have with 8 plugs |
| 19:21 | @adamg> | is it worth shipping the new hosts and having them installed and then use the rpc to turn one on to see what the power usage is |
| 19:22 | @caker> | The RPC unit at TP has a meter in it, so I've averaged it to about 1 to 1.1 amp per server post boot |
| 19:23 | @adamg> | but what would you rather do get a new rack or a new power feed |
| 19:23 | @caker> | I'd rather get a new power feed, than pay cross connect fees, etc |
| 19:23 | @adamg> | dont they do free cross connects? |
| 19:24 | @guinea-sleep> | nothing's free! |
| 19:24 | @adamg> | some dcs will |
| 19:24 | @caker> | Up to 10 free, $35 one-time fee after that |
| 19:24 | NeXTer> | Especially not lunch |
| 19:24 | NeXTer> | Or so I've heard... |
| 19:24 | @caker> | so it's the same price for a new cabinet with a 15amp, or an additional 20amp to my existing cab |
| 19:24 | @adamg> | but I guess you will still need rpc's, switch etc |
| 19:25 | @caker> | rpcs, etc, yeah, but not the switch -- would use cross connects to cab 1 |
| 19:25 | @caker> | I think the whole thing is stupid, really |
| 19:25 | @adamg> | I thought you would just put in one crossconnect to a new switch |
| 19:25 | @caker> | for 8 servers? |
| 19:26 | @caker> | ... adding to the wastefulness of the whole thing |
| 19:26 | @adamg> | well if you add the 20 amp, it would still not be enough to fully fill the rack |
| 19:26 | @adamg> | I guess |
| 19:26 | @caker> | Close, though -- could at least fill the switch I have |
| 19:26 | @adamg> | how many ports on the switch |
| 19:27 | @caker> | this will seem backwards -- a 48 port at TP and a 24 port at HE |
| 19:27 | NeXTer> | Yep, does seem a tad backward... |
| 19:27 | @caker> | That was my mistake, though -- I never reserved the rest of the rack at TP, and when I asked, they used it already |
| 19:28 | NeXTer> | Oups |
| 19:28 | @caker> | could have moved to a full rack, but that would have brought everyone down for a bit while they moved the gear |
| 19:28 | @adamg> | so you didnt purchase a full rack at TP then |
| 19:28 | NeXTer> | Good choice there, can't be having with downtime :P |
| 19:29 | NeXTer> | Speaking of that... What's the status on that kernel update? |
| 19:29 | inkblot> | not with that 99.9% uptime clause |
| 19:29 | @caker> | I deferred it since HE fixed the network issue |
| 19:29 | @caker> | which is what I think was causing slow-downs |
| 19:30 | @adamg> | I would go for the 20 amp feed at HE and fill the switch and then find another DC |
| 19:30 | @caker> | I agree, adam... |
| 19:30 | NeXTer> | Okay, so no changes there unless something else happens un the UML front? |
| 19:30 | inkblot> | like that proc thing |
| 19:30 | @caker> | NeXTer: or until the next kernel exploit :) |
| 19:30 | @caker> | NeXTer: right |
| 19:30 | NeXTer> | Cool |
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