| --- | Log | opened Fri Dec 12 00:00:22 2003 |
| 00:37 | vitrum> | http://www.sendthemback.org :) |
| 00:37 | vitrum> | pretty hilarous |
| 00:53 | @caker> | ok .. need some advice |
| 00:53 | @caker> | I think HE is sending traffic to our port that isn't ours |
| 00:53 | @mikegrb> | Oh? |
| 00:53 | @mikegrb> | anything good? |
| 00:53 | @caker> | possibly -- get my overages back, that |
| 00:54 | @caker> | that's for sure :) |
| 00:54 | @mikegrb> | oh |
| 00:54 | @mikegrb> | spiffy |
| 00:54 | @caker> | plus, there's a boatload of traffic going around the switch, to all the hosts |
| 00:54 | @caker> | between 5-10 mbit/sec AVERAGE -- but it's strange its going to each host |
| 00:56 | @caker> | caling he :) |
| 00:56 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 00:57 | @mikegrb> | so I thought you needed advice? |
| 00:57 | @caker> | well, tcpdump shows packets destined for a IP range we don't have |
| 00:57 | @caker> | and why is my switch sending it to all the hosts? |
| 00:58 | @mikegrb> | it is confused because it is for the wrong ip block? |
| 00:58 | * | mikegrb doesn't know shit about managed switches |
| 00:58 | @caker> | its boatloads of smtp traffic |
| 00:59 | @mikegrb> | spam? or general smtp traffic? |
| 01:00 | @caker> | general traffic, but about 90% is smtp based, going to IPs in the 64.62.204.* block |
| 01:01 | @caker> | I'm guessing that since the switch doesn't know who those IPs belong to, it sends it down all the ports |
| 01:01 | @mikegrb> | makes sense |
| 01:03 | shakr> | caker: that is standard dos traffic directed at he. i get it to my colo'd box non stop |
| 01:03 | shakr> | sometimes it peaks at 90 mbits |
| 01:03 | @caker> | either way, nothing but 64.62.190.* traffic should be hitting my switch |
| 01:04 | @caker> | this looks like legit traffic, btw |
| 01:04 | shakr> | can your switch filter it? |
| 01:04 | vitrum> | smtp... heh, i visited some of the ips in 200+ and it's an "permission-based, in-house email marketing lists" company ;) |
| 01:05 | @caker> | yeah, but they'll still send it to me on their end which ++ their counters |
| 01:05 | vitrum> | few others were owned by alldealz.com |
| 01:05 | @caker> | interesting |
| 01:05 | vitrum> | spam :) |
| 01:06 | @caker> | ok, called HE and just sent them the logs |
| 01:07 | @caker> | this is insane, no wonder we use so much more traffic for 4 machines at HE than the 8 at ThePlanet |
| 01:07 | @caker> | I want a damn refund |
| 01:08 | * | caker turns into obnoxious customer |
| 01:08 | @mikegrb> | caker++ |
| 01:09 | vitrum> | it's 10pm over here in california, gotta give those NOC guys somethin to do :) |
| 01:09 | @caker> | tcpdump rox |
| 01:09 | @caker> | hehe |
| 01:10 | @mikegrb> | vitrum: did you see my message in the channel the other day when you were away? |
| 01:10 | vitrum> | bout my site? |
| 01:10 | @mikegrb> | yes |
| 01:10 | vitrum> | yup |
| 01:10 | @mikegrb> | okie doke |
| 01:10 | vitrum> | yah if you've got anything to add let me know! |
| 01:10 | vitrum> | or write up any thing |
| 01:11 | @mikegrb> | I will |
| 01:11 | @caker> | tcpdump not dst net 64.62.190 -n and not src net 64.62.190 |
| 01:11 | @caker> | mmm |
| 01:11 | @caker> | tcpdump -n not net 64.62.190 |
| 01:11 | @caker> | killllllll |
| 01:12 | @mikegrb> | :) |
| 01:12 | @caker> | we're doing 22 megs/sec inside the switch :) |
| 01:12 | @caker> | megabytes |
| 01:12 | vitrum> | what kinda traffic goes through the planet ? |
| 01:13 | @caker> | when I looked about 2 hrs ago we were doing less than 1 MByte/sec |
| 01:13 | vitrum> | ha |
| 01:13 | * | caker has some serious refunds coming |
| 01:13 | @caker> | They **will** take care of this |
| 01:13 | inkblot> | hurrah! |
| 01:13 | @mikegrb> | :) |
| 01:15 | @caker> | iptraf is another awesome tool |
| 01:15 | @caker> | just plain awesome |
| 01:16 | @mikegrb> | oh! |
| 01:16 | @mikegrb> | I've used that |
| 01:16 | inkblot> | wow |
| 01:16 | inkblot> | i haven't used that one in years |
| 01:16 | @mikegrb> | heh same here |
| 01:16 | @mikegrb> | like 4 or 5 years |
| 01:16 | * | inkblot nods |
| 01:16 | @mikegrb> | with ppp heh |
| 01:16 | inkblot> | ha ha |
| 01:17 | inkblot> | i was on the university booze |
| 01:17 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 01:17 | inkblot> | damn |
| 01:18 | inkblot> | 5 years ago i was a sophomore |
| 01:18 | inkblot> | "but i was just in college!" |
| 01:18 | @mikegrb> | http://home.thegrebs.com/osd-email.png <- new spiffyness this popsup on tv screen with from and subject of new emails |
| 01:20 | @caker> | no wonder so many interrupts/sec on all the HE boxen |
| 01:20 | inkblot> | doh! |
| 01:20 | @caker> | "where is this traffic coming from?" |
| 01:20 | @caker> | <--- about 3 hrs ago |
| 01:24 | vitrum> | someone just went into g7 and asked for linux help... poor guy, little do they probably realize those chose the worst channel possible to expect a response ;) |
| 01:31 | Sh8d0w> | vitrum: why dun u tell him that in #g7? |
| 01:32 | vitrum> | haha, somebody else can take a penalty hit :) |
| 01:33 | vitrum> | I still have a FFXI account, but i haven't played it in like a week and a half |
| 01:33 | @caker> | get xr0g to do it :) |
| 01:33 | @caker> | FFXI ? |
| 01:33 | vitrum> | g7 is great , i dont have to do anything and i still level up |
| 01:33 | vitrum> | final fantasy 11 |
| 01:33 | inkblot> | caker, graphical version of g7 |
| 01:34 | @mikegrb> | inkblot: heh |
| 01:34 | @caker> | heehehe |
| 01:34 | @caker> | inkblot++ |
| 01:34 | @caker> | inkblot++ |
| 01:34 | inkblot> | :D |
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| 01:45 | @mikegrb> | hmm |
| 01:48 | vitrum> | geez mike, i gotta wait 7 and a half months before level 70? :) |
| 01:48 | vitrum> | haha |
| 01:49 | @mikegrb> | yup |
| 01:49 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 01:49 | @mikegrb> | nah |
| 01:49 | @mikegrb> | that is with no battles and stuff |
| 01:49 | inkblot> | godsends work proportionally |
| 01:50 | inkblot> | the initial ttl grows exponentially relative to your level, |
| 01:50 | @mikegrb> | right |
| 01:50 | inkblot> | but the actual amount of time it takes is logarithmic relative to real time |
| 01:50 | inkblot> | so's it's basically linear |
| 01:50 | inkblot> | ha ha i said "so's" |
| 01:51 | vitrum> | haha |
| 01:51 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 01:52 | inkblot> | w00t |
| 01:52 | inkblot> | i reach level 57 in a little over 5 minutes |
| 02:27 | wap> | Morning. |
| 02:44 | @mikegrb> | caker: I had an idea when I went out for my last cigarette, now if I could just remember it |
| 02:47 | @caker> | heh |
| 02:47 | @mikegrb> | oh |
| 02:48 | @mikegrb> | got it |
| 02:48 | @mikegrb> | people have been asking about getting the bandwidth consumption number from the website via proc or somesuch |
| 02:48 | @mikegrb> | or having last month available |
| 02:48 | @caker> | Yeah -- going to do that through lish commander |
| 02:48 | @caker> | for "current month |
| 02:49 | @mikegrb> | something that may be somewhat easy to implement as you have part of the code in place is dumping it to the kernel ring buffer at the end of the month |
| 02:49 | @mikegrb> | so it shows in dmesg |
| 02:49 | @mikegrb> | make sense? |
| 02:49 | @caker> | yeah |
| 02:49 | @mikegrb> | that would work will with current month being available in lish |
| 02:49 | @mikegrb> | s/will/well/ |
| 02:50 | @caker> | somsone's already scripted logging into the cp |
| 02:50 | @caker> | it's kind of annoying on my end, though :) |
| 02:51 | @mikegrb> | heh I'll bet |
| 02:51 | @mikegrb> | I'm waiting on this damn email that doesn't want to come |
| 02:52 | @mikegrb> | password reminder from a mailman list so I can update my return address so I can send a frick'n patch in |
| 02:52 | @mikegrb> | all I want to do is help :( |
| 02:55 | wap> | <mikegrb> all I want to do is help - that's lovely ;) |
| 02:55 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 02:57 | wap> | mikegrb: nice work on the g7 stats command btw |
| 02:57 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 02:57 | @mikegrb> | thanks |
| 02:58 | * | mikegrb passes a pot of coffee around |
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| 05:11 | shakr> | besides he.net what are other big west coast bay area datacenters? |
| 06:17 | adamg> | sighup g7 adamg |
| 06:17 | sighup> | #G7 stats for adamgent, the sleepy -- 21/105 Current Level: 40 | Time to next level: 2 days, 00:33:51 | Status: online | Item Total: 362 | Total Time Idled: 18 days, 16:51:10 |
| 06:22 | @mikegrb> | 'morning |
| 06:51 | adamg> | back in an hour or so |
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| 08:37 | adamgent> | sighup g7 |
| 08:37 | sighup> | adamgent: excuse me? |
| 08:37 | adamgent> | sighup g7 adamg |
| 08:37 | sighup> | #G7 stats for adamgent, the sleepy -- 23/105 Current Level: 40 | Time to next level: 1 days, 23:37:53 | Status: offline | Item Total: 362 | Total Time Idled: 18 days, 18:50:05 |
| 08:37 | ~ | ChanServ set +o adamgent on #linode |
| 08:37 | adamgent | is now known as adamg |
| 08:37 | @adamg> | sighup g7 adamg |
| 08:37 | sighup> | #G7 stats for adamgent, the sleepy -- 23/105 Current Level: 40 | Time to next level: 1 days, 23:37:48 | Status: online | Item Total: 362 | Total Time Idled: 18 days, 18:50:10 |
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| 10:57 | tjfontaine> | !? |
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| 12:00 | eurozip> | sighup, g7 eurozip |
| 12:00 | sighup> | #G7 stats for eurozip, the heh -- 42/105 Current Level: 37 | Time to next level: 0 days, 20:47:38 | Status: online | Item Total: 306 | Total Time Idled: 11 days, 09:05:45 |
| 12:01 | eurozip> | :) |
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| 12:58 | @adamg> | sighup linode avail |
| 12:59 | sighup> | Linode availability -- [Linode 64: 2] [Linode 96: 2] [Linode 128: 1] [Linode 192: 0] [Linode 256: 0] |
| 12:59 | @adamg> | they seem to be going up instead of down |
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| 13:28 | @adamg> | sighup seen caker |
| 13:28 | sighup> | caker was last seen on #linode 10 hours, 37 minutes and 34 seconds ago, saying: it's kind of annoying on my end, though :) [1071215436] |
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| 13:46 | @adamg> | hi crhis |
| 13:46 | @adamg> | chris even |
| 13:46 | @caker> | hola |
| 13:46 | @caker> | My power went out this morning |
| 13:47 | @adamg> | thats not good |
| 13:47 | @caker> | RPC unit came ... |
| 13:47 | @adamg> | thats good, so you sending off host 13 and 14 then |
| 13:48 | @caker> | I'm going to try to send all four today |
| 13:48 | @adamg> | thats a lot of servers |
| 13:48 | @caker> | one left to build (came this morning), two to install onto, and then lots of labels to make :) |
| 13:48 | @caker> | so yeah, at least 13 and 14 are going to go out |
| 13:48 | @adamg> | in what 6 hours |
| 13:48 | @caker> | ... 5 hrs from now |
| 13:49 | @caker> | How's it going w/ you? |
| 13:49 | @adamg> | ok |
| 13:49 | @adamg> | did he sort out your switch been flooded |
| 13:49 | @caker> | I'm suprised I haven't had a response yet |
| 13:49 | @caker> | Time to call them |
| 13:50 | @adamg> | you should get them to recalculate all your past bills so that only traffic to your IPs are billed |
| 13:50 | @caker> | Hell yeah -- I can only imagine how that's going to go though .. but I haev a plan |
| 13:50 | @adamg> | it is there fault |
| 13:51 | @caker> | totally -- but I'm sure they no longer have the traffic history .. so, I plan on suggesting seeing how it goes for the next month w/o the extra traffic, and then we can retro my current rate back |
| 13:51 | EFudd> | 13:33 < demigod2k> firewire is chained... |
| 13:51 | EFudd> | 13:32 <@cc-work> <Booyah> what's 18 inches long and makes women scream? |
| 13:51 | EFudd> | 13:32 <@cc-work> <Booyah> crib death |
| 13:51 | @adamg> | ? |
| 13:52 | @adamg> | it depends how long they keep the info for |
| 13:53 | @adamg> | Have your added up all the bandwidth that you calculate for each linode and see how it compares |
| 13:53 | @caker> | Well, not yet- - it got too late last night |
| 13:53 | @adamg> | maybe worth checking it out |
| 13:53 | @caker> | yeah, we'll see how hard I need to push them |
| 13:54 | @adamg> | are you stilling getting the traffic to the switch |
| 13:54 | @caker> | heh .. yup |
| 13:54 | @adamg> | oh dear |
| 13:56 | @adamg> | it has to be a problem at there end, mis configured switch or something |
| 13:57 | @caker> | yeah |
| 13:57 | @adamg> | well hopefully you will get somewhere when you call them |
| 13:58 | @adamg> | and while your at moan about wcg |
| 13:58 | @caker> | :) |
| 13:59 | @adamg> | then again done bother no longer go via wcg |
| 13:59 | @adamg> | looks like the he link is back up |
| 14:00 | @adamg> | 14 hops instead of 22 now |
| 14:01 | @caker> | awesome |
| 14:02 | @adamg> | well at least they have sorted that out |
| 14:02 | tjfontaine> | ccache++ |
| 14:02 | @adamg> | I now go fmt to sjc then to nyc and then on to london |
| 14:03 | @adamg> | instead of going around 7 wgc connections |
| 14:04 | @caker> | all on he? |
| 14:04 | @adamg> | yes |
| 14:04 | @caker> | Nice |
| 14:05 | @caker> | Well, they forwarded it to the NOC peeps |
| 14:05 | @caker> | and I left msg w/ my sales chicky :) |
| 14:05 | @adamg> | he have links between the telehouses in londons and new york and then to there sjc facility |
| 14:05 | @caker> | 1-6Mbits/sec on average of traff that's not mine |
| 14:06 | @adamg> | although things do not seem much faster but I am downloading a lot at home so the connection is pretty much saturated, will see what it is like when the downloads have finised |
| 14:08 | inkblot> | tjfontaine, totally |
| 14:09 | tjfontaine> | inkblot: kernel recompiles fly :-) |
| 14:09 | inkblot> | tjfontaine, lnx-bbc compiles take less than 12 hours |
| 14:09 | tjfontaine> | heh |
| 14:09 | inkblot> | like, 3 with ccache on my machine |
| 14:14 | tjfontaine> | can you use distcc too? that would probably cut some more time as well |
| 14:15 | @adamg> | distcc is good |
| 15:03 | sjansen> | caker: If I sign up for just a month and like the service, I can switch to the full year plan later and still get the extra disk space? |
| 15:05 | @adamg> | yes, and there is a 7 day money back thing as well, stuff on the forum about it |
| 15:05 | eurozip> | you'll like it :) |
| 15:06 | @adamg> | caker is busy trying to build a machine, install OSes on 3 and making loads of labels all in 5 hours |
| 15:06 | @caker> | sjansen: of course :) |
| 15:07 | sjansen> | Yeah, I've heard to two different people that they've been quite impressed. Saw it on the forum, just wanted to triple check. |
| 15:08 | @adamg> | caker any chance of you setting dates for the kernel updates on 11 and 12 |
| 15:08 | @caker> | I'm going to send out announcments as soon as I can catch my breath -- probably for Monday evening |
| 15:08 | @adamg> | k |
| 15:09 | @adamg> | for the announcement of the update |
| 15:09 | @adamg> | w/of/or |
| 15:09 | @caker> | no for the reboots |
| 15:09 | @adamg> | s/of/or |
| 15:09 | @adamg> | k |
| 15:09 | @adamg> | hows the building going |
| 15:10 | @caker> | I don't have one of my custom adapter doohickeys, so I think just 13 and 14 are going today |
| 15:10 | @adamg> | custom adapters? |
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| 15:11 | @caker> | adamg: http://www.linode.com/pics/set2/DSCN0038.JPG |
| 15:12 | @caker> | only one of those -- cat5 to serial adapters with custom pinouts :) |
| 15:12 | @caker> | for the remote console units |
| 15:12 | @mikegrb> | caker: radio shacke used to sell the liitle hoods |
| 15:13 | @mikegrb> | wit the wires in the package so you set the pinout how you want |
| 15:13 | @caker> | mikegrb: I tried them first -- they want like 7 bucks for one, and they're huge |
| 15:13 | @adamg> | yeah seen the pic before |
| 15:13 | @caker> | I ordered them from a wholesale place in FL for about a buck / piece |
| 15:13 | @adamg> | but why have you got them plugged together |
| 15:14 | @guinea-sleep> | too test the wiring? |
| 15:14 | @guinea-sleep> | to |
| 15:15 | @caker> | that was for custompinout to straight-pinout |
| 15:15 | @caker> | for the cisco, I think |
| 15:15 | @guinea-sleep> | man |
| 15:15 | @guinea-sleep> | headphones are great, by my chair keeps rolling over the cable |
| 15:16 | @mikegrb> | caker: yes, they are extremely expensive for stuff like that |
| 15:16 | @adamg> | get some wireless ones then |
| 15:16 | @guinea-sleep> | eww |
| 15:16 | @guinea-sleep> | i have wireless ones, mmkay? |
| 15:16 | @mikegrb> | caker: pisses me off, back in oklahoma city there was a place locally for stuff like that |
| 15:16 | @guinea-sleep> | they're crap |
| 15:16 | @caker> | mikegrb: that stuff is hard to find .. |
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| 15:16 | @guinea-sleep> | these are $60 h-phones :p |
| 15:16 | @mikegrb> | caker: right |
| 15:16 | @adamg> | depends if you have the infra-red ones or the radio freq ones |
| 15:16 | @caker> | mikegrb: plus, the place I got this stuff from is awesome .. lemme find |
| 15:17 | @mikegrb> | caker: was nice being able to pop over to a store and grab a 1000' box of cat-5 or a patch pannel, etc |
| 15:17 | @caker> | hehe |
| 15:17 | @guinea-sleep> | 900mhz, iirc |
| 15:17 | @mikegrb> | caker: stuff one would typically have to order, and their prices were great too |
| 15:17 | @mikegrb> | caker: that is the thing I miss the most about oklahoma city heh |
| 15:18 | @guinea-sleep> | it wasn't the reception that sucked. it was the headphones themeselves |
| 15:18 | @mikegrb> | synergy datacom is the place |
| 15:18 | @guinea-sleep> | shaboom |
| 15:19 | @caker> | mikegrb: http://www.cablewholesale.com/catalog/modularadaptors.htm |
| 15:20 | @mikegrb> | I'm heading out but I will check it out when I get home |
| 15:20 | tjfontaine> | caker: got time for a fun question :-) |
| 15:20 | @mikegrb> | thanks for the url |
| 15:20 | @caker> | np |
| 15:21 | @caker> | tjfontaine: ok |
| 15:22 | tjfontaine> | lets say one can load into a kernel say off a cd or someother device thats not the harddrive |
| 15:22 | @caker> | ok |
| 15:22 | @guinea-sleep> | i don't want to say that |
| 15:22 | tjfontaine> | is it possible to then load another kernel overtop, completely escape the other kernel and go into another kernel |
| 15:23 | @caker> | I'm guessing no |
| 15:23 | @caker> | not normally, at least |
| 15:23 | tjfontaine> | hmm |
| 15:23 | tjfontaine> | this isn't normal I assure you :-) |
| 15:23 | @adamg> | try asking on the kernel-newbiw chan |
| 15:23 | tjfontaine> | sure why not :-) |
| 15:23 | @guinea-sleep> | i'd imagine it's "possible" |
| 15:24 | @adamg> | but why would you need to |
| 15:24 | @guinea-sleep> | taking the shell command "exec" as an example |
| 15:24 | tjfontaine> | just a thought I had |
| 15:24 | @adamg> | also wouldnt it be a security risk |
| 15:24 | tjfontaine> | undoubtedly |
| 15:25 | tjfontaine> | but necessary nonetheless |
| 15:25 | @guinea-sleep> | the first kernel would have to give up to the second one, the second couldn't "steal" |
| 15:25 | @caker> | Might I ask why you need to do this? |
| 15:25 | * | caker has Frosty the Snow Man stuck in his head for some sick reason |
| 15:26 | tjfontaine> | well |
| 15:26 | @caker> | ring a ding ding ding |
| 15:26 | tjfontaine> | consider a closed enviroment for hardware |
| 15:26 | tjfontaine> | thats legacy free |
| 15:26 | tjfontaine> | :-) |
| 15:26 | @adamg> | heard anything from he yet? |
| 15:27 | tjfontaine> | it's a thought for the xbox tis all |
| 15:27 | @caker> | adamg: no, they said I should expect a response today |
| 15:27 | @caker> | tjfontaine: what good would loading a kernel, doing stuff, and then undoing what you've done by loading another kernel? |
| 15:27 | @adamg> | best place to ask would be the kernel mailing list |
| 15:27 | @caker> | or get beat down :) |
| 15:28 | @adamg> | depends how you ask the question |
| 15:28 | tjfontaine> | caker: 1: no need to re-port tcp/ip and other drivers that are already done, but use it as a bootloader |
| 15:28 | @caker> | tjfontaine: can you accomplish this with an initrd with the first kernel? |
| 15:29 | tjfontaine> | also there is a size issue |
| 15:29 | tjfontaine> | most flash are 256k |
| 15:30 | @caker> | from kn: http://www.scyld.com/products/beowulf/software/monte.html |
| 15:38 | inkblot> | tjfontaine, two-kernel monte |
| 15:38 | inkblot> | tjfontaine, google for it |
| 15:38 | tjfontaine> | inkblot: thats what the link caker posted was, I just couldn't remember the name... but thanks! I love reassurance |
| 15:39 | inkblot> | oh |
| 15:39 | inkblot> | heh |
| 15:39 | inkblot> | i was all up in the backscroll |
| 16:20 | sjansen> | caker: What is the password used for during the registration process? I don't like being limited to alphanumeric, much prefer including special symbols and spaces. |
| 16:21 | @adamg> | ping |
| 16:21 | sjansen> | Or anyone else that knows. |
| 16:21 | @caker> | sjansen: the pw is for access to the control panel -- treat it as you would your root pass .. but, only alphanumeric, sry |
| 16:21 | inkblot> | it'll also be your password on the host system |
| 16:21 | * | sjansen grumbles and goes looking for the right place to submit enhancement requests |
| 16:21 | @adamg> | why only alphanumeric? |
| 16:22 | inkblot> | and your initial root password |
| 16:22 | @caker> | sjansen: you're free to set the root p/w to whatever though once you deploy |
| 16:22 | @adamg> | sighup g7 adamg |
| 16:22 | sighup> | #G7 stats for adamgent, the sleepy -- 22/105 Current Level: 40 | Time to next level: 1 days, 16:46:03 | Status: online | Item Total: 362 | Total Time Idled: 19 days, 01:41:55 |
| 16:22 | @caker> | adamg: its just what I started with |
| 16:29 | inkblot> | caker, any news on that /proc timestamp issue? |
| 16:30 | @caker> | no, was just looking at my post .. no responses |
| 16:30 | @caker> | i dug around the code a little, but nothing was obvious |
| 16:30 | inkblot> | :< |
| 16:30 | inkblot> | i guess i'll just have to not reboot |
| 16:30 | inkblot> | ;< |
| 16:43 | @adamg> | sighup linode forums |
| 16:43 | sighup> | adamg: Linux Networking: DNS and rest of the stuff ; General Discussion: performance of linode ... ; Feature Request/Bug Report: linode (running on host10) ... ; Linux Tips, Tricks, Tutorials: Reboot from within linode ; Linux Tips, Tricks, Tutorials: working on a go daddy ... |
| 16:43 | @adamg> | sighup linode avail |
| 16:43 | sighup> | Linode availability -- [Linode 64: 2] [Linode 96: 1] [Linode 128: 1] [Linode 192: 0] [Linode 256: 0] |
| 16:55 | % | Netsplit uranium.oftc.net <-> charon.oftc.net quits: UML_ChanLog |
| 16:56 | inkblot> | LA LA LA NO LOG NO LOG LA LA LA |
| 16:56 | % | Netsplit over, joins: UML_ChanLog |
| 16:57 | @adamg> | the was a small net split |
| 16:57 | inkblot> | is there a map of this network somewhere? |
| 16:58 | @adamg> | dont think so |
| 16:58 | inkblot> | i'm curious how it's layed out |
| 16:58 | @adamg> | ask mike |
| 16:58 | @adamg> | or on #oftc |
| 16:58 | inkblot> | i suppose i could just parse /links |
| 16:58 | inkblot> | blah |
| 16:58 | @adamg> | you could |
| 17:00 | inkblot> | nutty |
| 17:00 | inkblot> | i'm connected to croatia |
| 17:01 | @adamg> | that one is not in my links list |
| 17:01 | inkblot> | [oftc][oftc] -!- arion.oftc.net arion.oftc.net 0 Zagreb, Croatia |
| 17:02 | @adamg> | i am connected to orion, which is not in the irc.oftc.. list as it is supposed a server hub |
| 17:02 | @adamg> | oh yeah found it now |
| 17:03 | inkblot> | orion's got three links |
| 17:03 | inkblot> | uranium, electron, and oxygen |
| 17:03 | @adamg> | yep |
| 17:04 | inkblot> | electron's a leaf node |
| 17:04 | @adamg> | well it does not have anything under it |
| 17:04 | inkblot> | oxygen's got four leaf nodes off of it |
| 17:04 | @adamg> | and 10 off uranium |
| 17:05 | @adamg> | and then some more off lepton |
| 17:06 | inkblot> | jupiter off of lepton |
| 17:06 | inkblot> | plasma off of jupiter |
| 17:06 | @adamg> | and infrared of jupiter |
| 17:06 | inkblot> | seven leaf nodes and services off of uranium |
| 17:07 | inkblot> | yes, and infrared |
| 17:07 | inkblot> | i think that's everything |
| 17:07 | @adamg> | I get more than 7 off uranium |
| 17:07 | inkblot> | more than seven links, yes |
| 17:07 | inkblot> | but only seven of them are to leaf nodes |
| 17:08 | @adamg> | are they |
| 17:08 | @adamg> | io, eurpa, kinetic, arion, lepton, quasar, keid, unununium, charona |
| 17:08 | inkblot> | lepton is not a leaf node |
| 17:08 | @adamg> | well removing lepton there are still 8 |
| 17:09 | inkblot> | eight, i guess |
| 17:09 | inkblot> | yeah |
| 17:09 | @adamg> | afk for a bit |
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| 17:12 | milo> | yeah man! CCR is fucking awesome. Fortunate Son. |
| 17:12 | milo> | whoops. ignore that. |
| 17:17 | * | caker went to UPS store |
| 17:40 | @mikegrb> | :) |
| 17:40 | @mikegrb> | caker++ |
| 17:40 | @mikegrb> | sighup: ping host13.linode.com |
| 17:40 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 17:41 | inkblot> | 64 bytes from 64.62.190.13: icmp_seq=0 ttl=0 time=1987204219083242.5 ms |
| 17:42 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 17:42 | @mikegrb> | inkblot++ |
| 17:42 | @mikegrb> | inkblot++ |
| 17:42 | inkblot> | :D |
| 17:42 | inkblot> | #linode loves me! |
| 17:42 | @mikegrb> | _that_ was some funny shit |
| 17:42 | @mikegrb> | sighup: karma inkblot |
| 17:42 | sighup> | inkblot has karma of 7 |
| 17:43 | inkblot> | i'm totally extrapolating that IP |
| 17:43 | inkblot> | it doesn't even have rdns set up |
| 17:43 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 17:44 | inkblot> | how many days is that? |
| 17:44 | @mikegrb> | so our neighbors had their car repo'ed this morning |
| 17:44 | inkblot> | ha ha rims |
| 17:44 | @mikegrb> | better yey |
| 17:44 | @mikegrb> | er yet |
| 17:44 | @mikegrb> | when I got home |
| 17:44 | @mikegrb> | they had an eviction notice on the door! |
| 17:44 | @mikegrb> | :D |
| 17:44 | @mikegrb> | sighup: convert 1987204219083242.5 msec to days |
| 17:44 | sighup> | I don't know how to convert 1987204219083242.5 msec to days. |
| 17:44 | inkblot> | damn |
| 17:45 | inkblot> | it's almost 64K years |
| 17:45 | @mikegrb> | sighup: convert 1987204219083.2425 msec to days |
| 17:45 | sighup> | I don't know how to convert 1987204219083.2425 msec to days. |
| 17:45 | @mikegrb> | sighup: convert 1987204219083.2425 sec to days |
| 17:45 | sighup> | 1987204219083.2425 sec is 2.3e+07 days. |
| 17:45 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 17:45 | @mikegrb> | sighup: convert 1987204219083.2425 sec to years |
| 17:45 | sighup> | 1987204219083.2425 sec is 62972 years. |
| 17:45 | @mikegrb> | :) |
| 17:45 | inkblot> | 1987204219083242.5 / (1000 * 3600 * 24 * 365) |
| 17:45 | inkblot> | 63013.83241638896816336884 |
| 17:45 | inkblot> | that's a lot of leap years |
| 17:45 | @mikegrb> | yup |
| 17:46 | inkblot> | 1987204219083242.5 / (1000 * 3600 * 24 * 365.29) |
| 17:46 | inkblot> | 62963.80637844445065462955 |
| 17:46 | @mikegrb> | sighup could do the other math too |
| 17:46 | sighup> | mikegrb: what? |
| 17:46 | @mikegrb> | sighup: 1987204219083242.5 / (1000 * 3600 * 24 * 365.29) |
| 17:46 | sighup> | 62963.8063784445 |
| 17:47 | @caker> | inkblot guessed right on the IP :) |
| 17:47 | @caker> | sighup: fedex tracking lookup |
| 17:47 | sighup> | caker: excuse me? |
| 17:47 | inkblot> | do i win a prize? |
| 17:48 | @caker> | how about a kiss? |
| 17:48 | inkblot> | from who? |
| 17:48 | @caker> | Me, duh! |
| 17:48 | inkblot> | i'll pass, thanks |
| 17:48 | * | caker snickers |
| 17:48 | @mikegrb> | caker: actually he can |
| 17:49 | @mikegrb> | I have to check the syntax |
| 17:49 | @mikegrb> | what is the number? |
| 17:49 | @caker> | actually, its a UPS number |
| 17:49 | @caker> | freaking expensive to ship these things |
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| 17:49 | @adamg> | well if you want it there in one bit it is |
| 17:50 | @caker> | and switfly, too |
| 17:50 | @adamg> | sighup ups 878 |
| 17:50 | sighup> | Sorry, I can't find any information on that tracking number. |
| 17:50 | shakr> | caker: do you know if there is a routing problem with above.net -> he.net? seeing much higher than normal pings |
| 17:50 | @adamg> | there you go chris |
| 17:50 | @mikegrb> | also track |
| 17:50 | @mikegrb> | sighup: track somesuch |
| 17:50 | @caker> | shakr: no idea .. how's traceroutes look for you? |
| 17:51 | @caker> | sighup ups 1Z3E74561365490848 |
| 17:51 | @caker> | ... |
| 17:51 | @adamg> | sighup hello |
| 17:51 | sighup> | hello, adamg. |
| 17:52 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 17:52 | @mikegrb> | it spawns a child process to go get the info |
| 17:52 | @mikegrb> | so he can keep handling stuff |
| 17:52 | @caker> | I don't think UPS knows about it yet. .. |
| 17:53 | @adamg> | well if it has left your place they should know |
| 17:53 | @caker> | it goes through mail box etc |
| 17:53 | @caker> | then to UPS .. |
| 17:53 | @adamg> | in that case maybe not |
| 17:53 | @caker> | sighup mbe mmtaxyk3fhwdc |
| 17:53 | sighup> | caker: excuse me? |
| 17:53 | wferrel> | you've still got Mailboxes Etc? |
| 17:53 | @caker> | no, it's UPS Store, but they still give out mbe tracking numbers |
| 17:54 | wferrel> | ahhh... heh ok. |
| 17:54 | @caker> | weird :) |
| 17:54 | shakr> | caker: fine for me personally. im running a game server though and a user sent me this: http://www.omegacorp.net/tracert.gif |
| 17:55 | @caker> | shakr: hop 14 looks strange |
| 17:55 | wferrel> | wow... I'm hammering my bandwidth compared to last month... |
| 17:56 | @caker> | 7%? |
| 17:56 | inkblot> | that's quite a jump in rtt |
| 17:56 | @mikegrb> | caker: the ups website doesn't have that package number |
| 17:56 | wferrel> | yeah, I think I was at 5% at the end of last month... or maybe it was 15... my memory stinks. |
| 17:56 | inkblot> | they must have lost it already |
| 17:56 | @caker> | mikegrb: yeah, not yet -- check mbe.com tho |
| 17:56 | @mikegrb> | caker: so perhaps to early still |
| 17:56 | @caker> | inkblot: hehe |
| 17:56 | @mikegrb> | haha |
| 17:56 | @caker> | inkblot: cool, I insured them for 20k :) |
| 17:56 | @mikegrb> | that would sux0r |
| 17:56 | @mikegrb> | oh |
| 17:56 | @caker> | j/k |
| 17:57 | inkblot> | caker, i have a minor feature request for the cp |
| 17:57 | @mikegrb> | well then ;)) |
| 17:57 | @caker> | inkblot: shoot |
| 17:57 | shakr> | caker: i use the same isp as the user (comcast) and i pass through the same "hop" without incident. i was thinking the problem was with hop 12 and if it was something he knew about |
| 17:57 | inkblot> | it would be really useful to have a "real time" progress meter right under the bandwidth progres meter |
| 17:58 | inkblot> | to see how much of the month is past |
| 17:58 | @caker> | ahh |
| 17:58 | inkblot> | and compare that to the bandwidth usage |
| 17:58 | inkblot> | sighup, 12/31 |
| 17:58 | inkblot> | <@Gilligan> Dumont, 12/31 |
| 17:58 | inkblot> | <+Dumont> 0.387096774193548 |
| 17:58 | @mikegrb> | sighup: 12 / 31 |
| 17:58 | inkblot> | 39% right now |
| 17:59 | @mikegrb> | weird |
| 17:59 | @mikegrb> | sighup: 1+1 |
| 17:59 | @mikegrb> | sighup: are you alive? |
| 17:59 | @mikegrb> | hmmm |
| 17:59 | inkblot> | you killed sighup! |
| 17:59 | inkblot> | you bastard! |
| 17:59 | @caker> | sighup: ps aux |
| 17:59 | @caker> | :-p |
| 17:59 | @mikegrb> | caker: wrong bot ;) |
| 17:59 | inkblot> | sighup, rr |
| 17:59 | inkblot> | doot doot doooooooooo |
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| 18:00 | @caker> | Why is sighup so flaky? |
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| 18:00 | inkblot> | because it's not the one true infobot |
| 18:00 | @mikegrb> | caker: good question ;) |
| 18:01 | @mikegrb> | inkblot: how does the original store the data? |
| 18:01 | inkblot> | dbm |
| 18:01 | @mikegrb> | caker: two main problems though |
| 18:01 | @mikegrb> | caker: has problems with db and problems with non-ascii |
| 18:02 | inkblot> | oh, really? |
| 18:02 | @mikegrb> | inkblot-- |
| 18:02 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 18:02 | @mikegrb> | like wide characters |
| 18:02 | inkblot> | you mean unicode |
| 18:02 | @mikegrb> | sure |
| 18:02 | inkblot> | or utf8? |
| 18:03 | @mikegrb> | one of the above |
| 18:03 | * | caker hopes he didn't ship his cybertool thing in one of the boxes |
| 18:03 | @mikegrb> | caker: can't find it? |
| 18:03 | @caker> | there it is :) |
| 18:05 | @caker> | mikegrb: get your laptop back in order? |
| 18:05 | @mikegrb> | yessir |
| 18:05 | @mikegrb> | gentoo has spiffyness for checking md5 and mtime against a database of what it was at install time |
| 18:05 | @mikegrb> | then one just needs to check config files and the like that have been edited |
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| 18:17 | @caker> | sighup 4000 * 1500 / 1024 |
| 18:17 | sighup> | 5859.375 |
| 18:21 | @caker> | welcome sjansen to the club |
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| 18:33 | riccy> | caker some problem with host9 ? |
| 18:34 | @caker> | riccy: no looks fine .. |
| 18:36 | riccy> | My ips down 5 minutes ago |
| 18:36 | @caker> | what's the IP ? |
| 18:36 | @caker> | or username? |
| 18:38 | riccy> | 64.62.190.143 |
| 18:41 | @caker> | looks ok after you rebooted |
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| 19:13 | inkblot> | caker, do you have any clues as to what might be causing these spikes: http://dorothy.movealong.org/mrtg/inet.html |
| 19:14 | inkblot> | specifically, the ones that exceed about 3Mb/s |
| 19:15 | inkblot> | i've seen them over 100 before |
| 19:15 | inkblot> | they're almost always isolated |
| 19:15 | inkblot> | and mostly around the same time |
| 19:15 | inkblot> | but they're somewhat inconsistent |
| 19:20 | @adamg> | i thought the link at HE was only a 100meg upling not 1000 |
| 19:20 | inkblot> | adamg, i'm at the planet |
| 19:21 | @caker> | inkblot: no, but let me compare my graphs ... |
| 19:25 | @adamg> | well I ment the TP |
| 19:26 | inkblot> | adamg, there is a total of 2.01Gb/s of uplink bandwidth at Tp |
| 19:27 | inkblot> | i don't know if that's dropped all the way down to the linode cluster network or not |
| 19:27 | @adamg> | I think the linode switch only gets a 100 uplink |
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| 19:37 | inkblot> | sighup, g7 ElfGod |
| 19:37 | sighup> | #G7 stats for ElfStone, the ElfGod -- 78/105 Current Level: 27 | Time to next level: 0 days, 02:29:38 | Status: offline | Item Total: 226 | Total Time Idled: 2 days, 14:58:40 |
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| 19:55 | shakrrr | is now known as shakr |
| 19:58 | @caker> | HE fixed the extra traffic |
| 19:58 | @caker> | Average went from 5500 kbits/sec down to 128 :) |
| 19:59 | @caker> | interrupts on the servers is now 1/10th what it was |
| 19:59 | @caker> | man, bad english |
| 20:01 | @adamg> | thats good, are they going to re-calc your old bills |
| 20:02 | @caker> | Not sure yet -- |
| 20:02 | @caker> | Savane wasn't in today |
| 20:02 | inkblot> | hurg |
| 20:02 | @caker> | I mean, I'm sure they will, they just don't know it yet |
| 20:02 | inkblot> | heh |
| 20:02 | @adamg> | I dont think they have much choice |
| 20:02 | @adamg> | it is obvious that you have not been using all that traffic and you can prove just how much you have used |
| 20:03 | @caker> | the hosts at HE should enjoy a much better time now |
| 20:04 | @caker> | Previously I was in port 48 on their switch .. now 36 |
| 20:04 | @caker> | know (what little) I know about Cisco gear, I wouldn't assume port 48 would be an uplink port, but that's sure what it looked like :) |
| 20:05 | @caker> | s/know/knowing/ |
| 20:05 | @adamg> | it could be an uplink |
| 20:05 | @caker> | of course, everyhting is configurable |
| 20:05 | @adamg> | if it was a 48 port switch then by default it would be uplink |
| 20:06 | @adamg> | or the other thing is that they set it to uplink and then forgot to remove the uplink when they where done with it |
| 20:06 | @caker> | That wasn't the case for neither of my two switches (3548, and 2924), but I would make that assumption, too |
| 20:06 | @caker> | yeah |
| 20:06 | * | caker sighs |
| 20:07 | @adamg> | well it is done now |
| 20:08 | @caker> | can sighup convert mbits to mbytes ? |
| 20:08 | @adamg> | tyr |
| 20:08 | @adamg> | try |
| 20:08 | @caker> | what's the syntax (I was egging for an example :) |
| 20:08 | @adamg> | no idea never tried |
| 20:08 | @caker> | sighup convert 25 mbit into mbytes |
| 20:08 | sighup> | 25 mbit is 3.125 mbytes. |
| 20:09 | @caker> | sighup botsnack |
| 20:09 | sighup> | thanks caker :) |
| 20:11 | @caker> | inkblot: I can't figure out what your traf spikes would be... |
| 20:11 | inkblot> | ok |
| 20:11 | inkblot> | caker, divide by 8 |
| 20:11 | inkblot> | 25 / 8 |
| 20:12 | @adamg> | sighup 25/8 |
| 20:12 | sighup> | 3.125 |
| 20:12 | inkblot> | :D |
| 20:12 | @caker> | excellent, ty |
| 20:12 | @caker> | makes sense :) |
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| 20:29 | inkblot> | sighup, 2.1 * 8 |
| 20:29 | sighup> | 16.8 |
| 20:29 | inkblot> | sighup, 1.7 * 8 |
| 20:29 | sighup> | 13.6 |
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| 21:35 | Griswald> | hey guys :) |
| 21:36 | inkblot> | h'yeaux |
| 21:37 | Griswald> | 'sup, inky? |
| 21:37 | inkblot> | weird network spikes |
| 21:37 | inkblot> | about once a day |
| 21:37 | inkblot> | extremely high |
| 21:38 | inkblot> | but too short to notice |
| 21:38 | inkblot> | except in the graphs |
| 21:38 | Griswald> | :P |
| 21:41 | ElfStone> | wasup |
| 21:41 | sjansen> | Maybe it's a new fad: flash DoS |
| 21:41 | Griswald> | ? |
| 21:41 | milo> | like a flashmob. |
| 21:41 | Griswald> | ... |
| 21:42 | Griswald> | i like pie. |
| 21:42 | inkblot> | sjansen, it doesn't interrupt anything |
| 21:46 | @mikegrb> | inkblot: I have had some |
| 21:47 | @mikegrb> | there were normally matching spikes on port 80 |
| 21:47 | @mikegrb> | so I figure spiders |
| 21:47 | @mikegrb> | but yes odd |
| 21:47 | @mikegrb> | damn quick and big |
| 21:47 | inkblot> | hmmm |
| 21:48 | @mikegrb> | can't see any on my graphs at the moment though |
| 21:48 | @mikegrb> | due to scale and what not |
| 21:48 | inkblot> | big enough to average over 100 Mb/s in a five minute period? |
| 21:48 | inkblot> | (i.e. 500 Mb/s for one minute or 2 Gb/s for 15 seconds) |
| 21:49 | @mikegrb> | http://thegrebs.com/admin/stats/www.html |
| 21:49 | ElfStone> | mikegrb has orion split? |
| 21:50 | inkblot> | http://dorothy.movealong.org/mrtg/inet.html |
| 21:50 | @mikegrb> | ElfStone: not since reboot on monday |
| 21:50 | @mikegrb> | yeah okay so yours are a lot taller inkblot |
| 21:51 | inkblot> | they're also bidirectional |
| 21:51 | inkblot> | almost |
| 21:51 | @mikegrb> | weird |
| 21:51 | inkblot> | like, there are coincident inbound and outbound spikes |
| 21:51 | inkblot> | but they're not the same height |
| 21:51 | inkblot> | and they're not consistent proportional to one another |
| 21:51 | ElfStone> | mikegrb you use gentoo? |
| 21:51 | ElfStone> | was it hard to install? |
| 21:52 | @mikegrb> | yes and no |
| 21:52 | sjansen> | Gentoo is fun but time consuming. |
| 21:53 | inkblot> | inbound is almost always higher than outbound |
| 21:53 | inkblot> | but not necessarily |
| 21:53 | * | sjansen is away: And away I go! |
| 21:54 | inkblot> | mikegrb, is your graph just port 80 or is it all network traffic? |
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| 22:04 | @mikegrb> | inkblot: that one is just 80 |
| 22:04 | @mikegrb> | that dir has an index with all of the graphs I have |
| 22:04 | inkblot> | i found it |
| 22:05 | @mikegrb> | good, howya? |
| 22:05 | artifex> | mikegrb: think you meant to msg that. ;-) |
| 22:05 | @mikegrb> | er |
| 22:05 | inkblot> | t/hee |
| 22:09 | @mikegrb> | :D |
| 22:09 | @mikegrb> | damnit |
| 22:09 | @mikegrb> | artifex++ |
| 22:09 | @mikegrb> | artifex++ |
| 22:09 | @mikegrb> | artifex++ |
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