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| 01:01 | <@mikegrb> | bwahaha |
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| 01:09 | <@caker> | and around we go |
| 01:10 | <inkblot> | hur |
| 01:10 | <inkblot> | g |
| 01:10 | <inkblot> | :< |
| 01:10 | <inkblot> | hurg |
| 01:12 | <@caker> | I dare to ask .. hurg? |
| 01:12 | | * inkblot shrugs |
| 01:21 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 01:21 | <@mikegrb> | upgrading ircd on two servers |
| 01:21 | <@mikegrb> | there was a race condition found |
| 01:48 | <inkblot> | holy crap |
| 01:48 | <inkblot> | the irc client on my linode just pung out from slashnet |
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| 01:53 | <@caker> | hello Sh8d0w |
| 01:53 | <Sh8d0w> | hi |
| 01:57 | <Sh8d0w> | I tried to add an IP to zoneedit for my domain and it keeps giving me a "IP invalid" error anyone know why? |
| 01:57 | <@caker> | is there a space at the end or something? |
| 01:57 | <inkblot> | more info please |
| 01:59 | <Sh8d0w> | hmm, whaddya know.. it just might be the space... |
| 02:01 | <Sh8d0w> | you would think they can automatically ignore spaces... |
| 02:04 | <Sh8d0w> | curious, why not implement a SAN or NAS rather than just 2 HDDs with RAID? |
| 02:05 | <@caker> | disk i/o is the biggest bottleneck, and gig-e hardware was not cost effective |
| 02:05 | <inkblot> | SAN or NAS would take more rack space |
| 02:05 | <inkblot> | and the disk i/o would be out on the network that way |
| 02:05 | <@caker> | I'd love to have that working, though .. could load balance at boot-time |
| 02:06 | <@caker> | and when swsusp is ported to uml, can freeze a running node, and move it around, reboot the host, then unfreeze :) |
| 02:06 | <Sh8d0w> | heh |
| 02:09 | <Sh8d0w> | there should be an option to use a shared readonly stock distro |
| 02:09 | <@caker> | like a recovery image? |
| 02:09 | <Sh8d0w> | no |
| 02:09 | <Sh8d0w> | an entire working distro |
| 02:10 | <Sh8d0w> | as if it were booting from a CD |
| 02:10 | <@caker> | so that it doesn't deduct from your hd space? |
| 02:10 | <Sh8d0w> | yes |
| 02:10 | <@caker> | gotcha |
| 02:10 | <Sh8d0w> | and makes it safer |
| 02:11 | <inkblot> | <-- working on it |
| 02:11 | <Sh8d0w> | cool |
| 02:12 | <inkblot> | are you familiar with the lnx-bbc? |
| 02:12 | <Sh8d0w> | me? nope, never heard of it |
| 02:12 | <inkblot> | http://www.lnx-bbc.org/ <-- ISO image for wallet-sized CDs |
| 02:12 | <inkblot> | i'm one of the developers |
| 02:13 | <inkblot> | and i'm working on a spinoff project called lnx-uml |
| 02:13 | <Sh8d0w> | hmm, actually now that I see the site, i think I did come across it |
| 02:20 | <Sh8d0w> | It might be better to create a tiered system of pricing based on CPU usage |
| 02:20 | | * mikegrb waves hello to Sh8d0w |
| 02:21 | <Sh8d0w> | that way, those who use their linode to host websites would pay less than say someone who compiles software all the time |
| 02:21 | | * Sh8d0w waves back |
| 02:21 | <@mikegrb> | holy shit now that is spiffy |
| 02:21 | | * mikegrb got pissed off earlier this evening |
| 02:22 | <@mikegrb> | this cms stuff I'm using tried to check the current version of plugins and stuff when you create a new folder |
| 02:22 | <@mikegrb> | the website was updated |
| 02:22 | <@mikegrb> | they didn't even mention this on the site but it broke creating new folders |
| 02:22 | <@mikegrb> | I went to their irc server, some crazzy french network I hadn't heard of before |
| 02:22 | <@mikegrb> | joined the channel |
| 02:23 | <@mikegrb> | asked for help explaining the problem |
| 02:23 | <@mikegrb> | idled for a few hrs |
| 02:23 | <@mikegrb> | finaly guessed the new url though |
| 02:23 | <@mikegrb> | just now comming to my irc client and their is a privmsg for the head developer |
| 02:24 | <@mikegrb> | since I joined their channel from my linode, it had that host |
| 02:24 | <@mikegrb> | he went to the webpage and tracked me down from there |
| 02:24 | <@mikegrb> | kind of nice |
| 02:24 | <Sh8d0w> | was it opensource cms? |
| 02:25 | <@mikegrb> | bes-cms, it is open source |
| 02:25 | <Sh8d0w> | icic, then that is nice |
| 02:25 | <@mikegrb> | indeed |
| 02:25 | <@mikegrb> | he was already gone |
| 02:26 | <@mikegrb> | he msg'ed me instructions for fixing it |
| 02:26 | <@mikegrb> | then left his email address in case I had further questions, thanked me for using it and went on his way |
| 02:26 | <Sh8d0w> | did it work? |
| 02:26 | <@mikegrb> | I've hacked it up quite a bit, I really should contribute that stuff back |
| 02:27 | <Sh8d0w> | hehe |
| 02:27 | <@mikegrb> | just don't have the time for /another/ open src project |
| 02:27 | <@mikegrb> | I already had it working |
| 02:27 | <@mikegrb> | I eventually guessed the url heh |
| 02:27 | <Sh8d0w> | heh |
| 02:27 | <@mikegrb> | though his is different |
| 02:28 | <@mikegrb> | and would have made more sense to use heh |
| 02:28 | <@mikegrb> | there is an Includes dir |
| 02:28 | <@mikegrb> | that is where the cache is |
| 02:28 | <@mikegrb> | he told me to just wget it from the main sites includes dir |
| 02:28 | <@mikegrb> | it is a txt file with a list of differnt modules/plugins type stuff |
| 02:28 | <@mikegrb> | time for a smoke I think |
| 02:29 | <Sh8d0w> | time for bed... |
| 02:32 | <Sh8d0w> | what stage is the Gentoo distro? |
| 02:38 | <@mikegrb> | I dunno |
| 02:38 | <@mikegrb> | I imagine a stage 2 |
| 02:38 | <@mikegrb> | it's basically the base-system plus syslog |
| 02:39 | <Sh8d0w> | that's what it looks like... hopefully it's nicely optimized for their systems |
| 02:39 | <Sh8d0w> | do u use apache? |
| 02:41 | <Sh8d0w> | I was wondering if you can u somehow change the compile options of apache before emerging |
| 02:42 | <@mikegrb> | in the /etc/make.conf |
| 02:42 | <@mikegrb> | you can set that stuff |
| 02:42 | <@mikegrb> | I'm using apache 2 |
| 02:43 | <Sh8d0w> | well I was referring to the .configure options for apache |
| 02:43 | <@mikegrb> | oh |
| 02:43 | <@mikegrb> | yes |
| 02:44 | <@mikegrb> | are you very familiar with portage? |
| 02:44 | <Sh8d0w> | nope |
| 02:44 | <@mikegrb> | oh heh |
| 02:44 | <@mikegrb> | in /etc/make.conf there is a variable USE |
| 02:44 | <@mikegrb> | lemme find a link to the apache ebuild |
| 02:45 | <Sh8d0w> | does that mean I need to modify the ebuild? |
| 02:45 | <@mikegrb> | nah |
| 02:45 | <@mikegrb> | it will make things a bit clearer, hopefully |
| 02:46 | <@mikegrb> | http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/net-www/apache/apache-2.0.48.ebuild?rev=1.3&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup |
| 02:46 | <Sh8d0w> | I'm not sure if the USE variable can set things like the --prefix and other directories can it? |
| 02:46 | <@mikegrb> | this shows the ebuild |
| 02:47 | <@mikegrb> | no |
| 02:48 | <@mikegrb> | it is more for compile time options |
| 02:48 | <@mikegrb> | with gentoo you can run into problems with using non default locations |
| 02:48 | <@mikegrb> | for example |
| 02:48 | <Sh8d0w> | yeah.. I want a custom layout and everything |
| 02:48 | <@mikegrb> | if you emerge squirrelmail in the future |
| 02:48 | <@mikegrb> | that ebuild will assume apache is in the default location |
| 02:49 | <wap> | Morning. |
| 02:49 | <@mikegrb> | or if you emerge mod_php it will assume apache and associated configs are in default location |
| 02:49 | <@mikegrb> | morning wap |
| 02:49 | <@mikegrb> | if you want a more custom layout it may be best to use something other then gentoo |
| 02:49 | <@mikegrb> | though I've been happy with it |
| 02:49 | <Sh8d0w> | well, I "could" just source build some of these things |
| 02:49 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 02:49 | <@mikegrb> | right |
| 02:50 | <Sh8d0w> | if I could run Linux From Scratch... it can't be that hard to run Gentoo =) |
| 02:50 | <@mikegrb> | but the use flag what that does is those IUSE lines in the ebuild |
| 02:50 | <@mikegrb> | those are things it will look at |
| 02:50 | <@mikegrb> | IUSE="berkdb gdbm ldap" |
| 02:51 | <@mikegrb> | those are options for apache |
| 02:51 | <@mikegrb> | not too many |
| 02:51 | <Sh8d0w> | heh |
| 02:51 | <Sh8d0w> | all 3 of em |
| 02:53 | <Sh8d0w> | damnit, their layout puts apache right into the /usr |
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| 02:54 | <Sh8d0w> | I could wget the ebuild file, then modify it and emerge that file instead right? |
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| 02:58 | <Sh8d0w> | well, thanks for the help. I'm off to get some sleep. latas! |
| 02:58 | <risto> | http://www.godaddy.com/ ;-( |
| 02:59 | <@caker> | what's up? |
| 02:59 | <risto> | down rather |
| 02:59 | <risto> | Provider error '80004005' |
| 02:59 | <risto> | Unspecified error |
| 02:59 | <risto> | /gdshop/i_shop.asp, line 283 |
| 03:00 | <@caker> | I can't even load the site |
| 03:00 | <risto> | it times out and gives all kind of SQL timeouts etc |
| 03:00 | <risto> | sad thing is that seems like their DNS servers are down too |
| 03:01 | <risto> | they just came back up |
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| 05:19 | | * wap is back home |
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| 06:24 | <adamgent> | sighup g7 adamg |
| 06:24 | <sighup> | #G7 stats for adamgent, the sleepy -- Current Level: 38 | Time to next level: 1 days, 16:05:28 | Status: offline | Item Total: 362 | Total Time Idled: 13 days, 05:19:05 |
| 06:24 | <adamgent> | sighup g7 adamg |
| 06:24 | <sighup> | #G7 stats for adamgent, the sleepy -- Current Level: 38 | Time to next level: 1 days, 16:05:28 | Status: offline | Item Total: 362 | Total Time Idled: 13 days, 05:19:05 |
| 06:25 | <adamgent> | sighup g7 adamg |
| 06:25 | <sighup> | Sorry, I don't know anything about a adamg |
| 06:25 | <adamgent> | sighup g7 adamgent |
| 06:25 | <sighup> | #G7 stats for adamgent, the sleepy -- Current Level: 38 | Time to next level: 1 days, 16:05:03 | Status: online | Item Total: 362 | Total Time Idled: 13 days, 05:19:30 |
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| 06:36 | <@adamgent> | sighup linode avail |
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| 06:36 | <sighup> | Linode availability -- [Linode 64: 3] [Linode 96: 9] [Linode 128: 0] [Linode 192: 0] [Linode 256: 0] |
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| 06:43 | | * Griswald yawns. |
| 06:43 | <Griswald> | forced to call outta work AGAIN... grah -_-; |
| 06:43 | <Griswald> | next paycheck is gonna suck with only 2 days on it -_- |
| 07:08 | <shakr> | does anyone know of or can recommend a reliable west coast webhost? this would be for a local business who just needs light http / pop / ftp hosting |
| 07:09 | <Griswald> | uhh.... http://www.alcatrazmedia.com ... |
| 07:09 | <Griswald> | I'd say look at them |
| 07:11 | <shakr> | are you a customer of thiers? |
| 07:14 | <shakr> | their prices seem kinda high |
| 07:16 | <Griswald> | I use them for ircD |
| 07:16 | <Griswald> | that's about it |
| 07:16 | <@adamgent> | another ebay scam emails have started |
| 07:16 | <Griswald> | I ain't surprised on that one :P |
| 07:17 | <@adamgent> | just do a search on google for a host, or look at www.webhostingtalk.com |
| 07:19 | <shakr> | yeah ive been looking at wht.. there is just so much information to go through |
| 07:19 | <shakr> | hostrocket and hostgator seem to be popular |
| 07:20 | <shakr> | and google is reliably useless for searching for colo / webhosts |
| 07:21 | <Griswald> | where exactly are the linode servers hosted from? |
| 07:21 | <Griswald> | :P |
| 07:21 | <shakr> | he.net in california and theplanet in texas |
| 07:21 | <@adamgent> | some at TP, which is dallas I think and some at HE |
| 07:21 | <shakr> | but i dont want to have to support this client in the future |
| 07:22 | <Griswald> | ahh |
| 07:22 | <Griswald> | why's that, shakr? :P |
| 07:23 | <shakr> | well, i am not going to pay for a cpanel license and i'd like them to be able to do simple things on their own without my intervention - like set up new email accounts |
| 07:23 | <Griswald> | ahhh |
| 07:23 | <shakr> | i really dig hostrocket's website: http://www.hostrocket.com |
| 07:24 | <Griswald> | I'd say you COULD check usenet, as I've seen a ton of cpanel stuff float around there.... but that'd be warez ;p |
| 07:25 | <shakr> | heh, i dont even like cpanel |
| 07:25 | <Griswald> | neither do I |
| 07:25 | <Griswald> | lol |
| 07:25 | <shakr> | is ensim any better? are there other alternatives? |
| 07:27 | <Griswald> | I've heard of ensim, never actually... TRIED it :) |
| 07:27 | <Griswald> | I'd say check www.freshmeat.net |
| 07:28 | <@adamgent> | you could try directadmin |
| 07:28 | <@adamgent> | chris can get them cheap but will not support it |
| 07:28 | <@adamgent> | details on the forum |
| 07:30 | <shakr> | im not looking to set up anything, mostly just asking to see whats out there. ensim and cpanel seem to be the standard offerings |
| 07:36 | <Griswald> | Griswald [3/54] has challenged drake [105/116], <-- I rolled INCREDIBLY low :P |
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| 07:44 | <Griswald> | any ideas why I can send mail out via xeraweb.com and not receive, even though I have an MX record along with an A line in the DNS? |
| 07:45 | <@adamgent> | is this on you linode? |
| 07:45 | <Griswald> | yeah |
| 07:46 | <@adamgent> | have you got the write software installed |
| 07:46 | <Griswald> | I've got default stuff setup |
| 07:46 | <Griswald> | sendmail, etc. |
| 07:47 | <Griswald> | only installed mysql, pine, and jservlet |
| 07:47 | <@adamgent> | well sendmail is an mta which is fine for sending mail, but you need to install mail server software to recieve mail |
| 07:48 | | * Griswald nods. |
| 07:48 | <Griswald> | Any suggestions on that one? |
| 07:49 | <@adamgent> | qmail |
| 07:49 | <@adamgent> | opps no that is another mta |
| 07:50 | <shakr> | of course sendmail and qmail can receive mail |
| 07:50 | <@adamgent> | courier |
| 07:50 | <shakr> | are you now trying to get it off the server? |
| 07:50 | <shakr> | or is it not even reaching it? |
| 07:51 | <Griswald> | well, I can send mail perfectly, just not recieve. |
| 07:51 | <shakr> | check the mail logs |
| 07:51 | <shakr> | /var/log/mail or similar |
| 07:51 | <@adamgent> | http://qmailrocks.org/ |
| 07:52 | <shakr> | i think im going with pair.com - they are highly recommended and the link on their front page to webmail is handy |
| 07:53 | <shakr> | webmail over ssl nonetheless |
| 08:00 | <Griswald> | hrm.. |
| 08:00 | <Griswald> | to forward mail to a diff ip, I just dns and then set the MX record to that, right? |
| 08:00 | <shakr> | that really isn't a forward since mail will no longer pass through the original mail server |
| 08:01 | <Griswald> | yeah, well... a friend of mine has a pop3 system setup |
| 08:01 | <Griswald> | I figure I could just forward to his system and check it all via pop3 :P |
| 08:02 | <shakr> | he would need to configure his system to accept mail addressed to your domain |
| 08:02 | <Griswald> | he already has :) |
| 08:02 | <shakr> | that is probably the problem you are currently having with your linode, if sendmail is just running in its stock configuration |
| 08:02 | <Griswald> | ahh |
| 08:03 | <Griswald> | then how would I configure that? |
| 08:03 | <shakr> | i couldnt even tell you where to look, i personally use exim and qmail |
| 08:04 | <shakr> | the option should be named something like local_domains |
| 08:05 | <shakr> | also, if you are currently able to send mail through it and you haven't changed any of its configuration that means you are probably running an open relay - a very bad thing as it could affect other linode users |
| 08:05 | <Griswald> | :S |
| 08:05 | <@adamgent> | you can use this to check http://www.abuse.net/relay.html |
| 08:06 | <shakr> | this one may be a bit easier http://members.iinet.net.au/~remmie/relay/ |
| 08:07 | <Griswald> | Open socket failed |
| 08:08 | <shakr> | what does 'netstat -a | grep smtp' return |
| 08:08 | <Griswald> | unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 1241 private/smtp |
| 08:08 | <Griswald> | unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 1289 private/bsmtp |
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| 08:11 | <shakr> | sendmail separates out its mta and mtu (?) into different network sockets |
| 08:13 | <shakr> | right now your system isnt configured to receive email |
| 08:13 | <shakr> | but you are able to relay through it |
| 08:14 | <Griswald> | how can I configure it? |
| 08:14 | | * Griswald can already see the "RTFM" popping up ;D |
| 08:14 | <Griswald> | never had a linux comp DNS a domain name, etc. |
| 08:14 | <@adamgent> | sendmail is one of the hardest things to configure |
| 08:14 | <@adamgent> | use qmail or exim |
| 08:14 | <Griswald> | I know how to run them, maintain them, etc, but not configure to public stuff as I've never done it before :) |
| 08:14 | <shakr> | again, you'd have to ask someone who knows more about sendmail.. in freebsd sendmail_enable="YES" does it :P |
| 08:15 | <EFudd> | fok sendmail |
| 08:15 | <Griswald> | LOL |
| 08:15 | <shakr> | i'd suggest using exim, its dead easy to configure |
| 08:15 | <Griswald> | I personally would rather have pop3 :) |
| 08:15 | | * EFudd notes you are confusing a MTU for MTA |
| 08:15 | <shakr> | that is a different suite of program altogether |
| 08:15 | <Griswald> | :P |
| 08:16 | <Griswald> | I know nothing about MTU / MTA |
| 08:16 | <shakr> | mail transfer agent / user |
| 08:16 | <Griswald> | that's the first I've seen the acronyms |
| 08:16 | <@adamgent> | i use sendmail for sending emails and qmail on the mail servers, along with all the other shite that it needs |
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| 08:18 | <shakr> | Griswald: I would suggest looking into exim receiving email addressed to your domain and as a relay for sending mail. for actually checking your email, look into courier-imap |
| 08:18 | <shakr> | ouch |
| 08:19 | <@adamgent> | sighup g7 adamgent |
| 08:19 | <sighup> | #G7 stats for adamgent, the sleepy -- Current Level: 38 | Time to next level: 1 days, 14:19:48 | Status: online | Item Total: 362 | Total Time Idled: 13 days, 07:04:45 |
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| 08:21 | <shakr> | Griswald: I would suggest looking into exim receiving email addressed to your domain and as a relay for sending mail. for actually checking your email, look into courier-imap |
| 08:21 | | * Griswald nods |
| 08:21 | <Griswald> | will do |
| 08:21 | <Griswald> | thanks :) |
| 08:22 | <EFudd> | er. |
| 08:22 | <EFudd> | courier is a transport that allows a MUA to check the mail via imap or pop3. |
| 08:22 | <EFudd> | MIA? Mail Interface Agent? |
| 08:22 | | * EFudd loves the TLAs associated with Email |
| 08:22 | <EFudd> | MUA -> MDA -> MTA -> MSA (Mail Scanning Agent) -> MDA -> MUA |
| 08:23 | <shakr> | whatever. courier-imap provides programs that will allow outlook express to download the mail stored on your server |
| 08:23 | <EFudd> | right. it provides pop3 and imap :) |
| 08:36 | <@mikegrb> | it can also be an MTA |
| 08:36 | <Julia> | morning |
| 08:36 | <@mikegrb> | I use just courier |
| 08:36 | <@mikegrb> | morning Julia |
| 08:37 | <@adamgent> | what no imap chris |
| 08:37 | <@adamgent> | mike even |
| 08:37 | <@mikegrb> | the courier suite |
| 08:37 | <@mikegrb> | there is courier |
| 08:37 | <@mikegrb> | a seperate package called courier-imap that is just the imap server |
| 08:37 | <@adamgent> | ok |
| 08:38 | <@mikegrb> | and a seperate package called maildrop which is it's badd ass procmail like doobie |
| 08:38 | <@mikegrb> | I use courier all around |
| 08:38 | <@adamgent> | sighup linode avail |
| 08:38 | <sighup> | Linode availability -- [Linode 64: 3] [Linode 96: 9] [Linode 128: 0] [Linode 192: 0] [Linode 256: 0] |
| 08:38 | <@mikegrb> | sheesh |
| 08:38 | <@mikegrb> | those things sell fast |
| 08:38 | <@mikegrb> | why didn't I think of that? |
| 08:38 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 08:38 | <@adamgent> | yep |
| 08:38 | <EFudd> | courier isn't for the faint of heart though. |
| 08:38 | <@mikegrb> | nah |
| 08:38 | <EFudd> | er, sorry |
| 08:38 | <EFudd> | i meant cyrus |
| 08:38 | <EFudd> | :-) |
| 08:38 | <@mikegrb> | I haven't had problems |
| 08:38 | <@mikegrb> | yes |
| 08:38 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 08:38 | <@mikegrb> | courier is great |
| 08:38 | <EFudd> | so is cyrus |
| 08:38 | <EFudd> | ;-) |
| 08:38 | <@mikegrb> | nice easy, yet configurable |
| 08:39 | <@adamgent> | i just tend to work though qmailrocks whenever I need a mail server |
| 08:39 | <EFudd> | qmailblah! |
| 08:39 | <EFudd> | postfix++ |
| 08:39 | | * Artifex needs to find some investors for his "Winode" design..... |
| 08:39 | <Artifex> | rofl |
| 08:39 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 08:39 | | * EFudd caught up on linux-kernel and postfix-users with only a few laughs this AM |
| 08:40 | <Artifex> | just for kicks last night, i wrote some simple asp.net scripts to start/stop/swap virtualized windows boxes. :-) |
| 08:40 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 08:40 | <EFudd> | Er, virtualized windows systems? |
| 08:40 | <EFudd> | Please define. |
| 08:40 | <Artifex> | EFudd: well, you know what a virtualized linux system is right? |
| 08:40 | <Artifex> | i.e. UML |
| 08:40 | <EFudd> | %PREDICTIVE-NOTICE: Expecting Failure to Compute in 30 seconds |
| 08:40 | <EFudd> | Yes Artifex. |
| 08:41 | <@adamgent> | mikegrb anything on the staff channel about all these net splits |
| 08:41 | <Artifex> | s/linux/windows/ |
| 08:41 | <Artifex> | there you go. |
| 08:41 | <EFudd> | %ERROR-42: SYNTAX UNKNOWN Near 'WINDOWS' |
| 08:41 | <@adamgent> | there are a few companies doing vps for windows but it is very expensive |
| 08:41 | <EFudd> | Ayup. |
| 08:41 | <@mikegrb> | adamgent: some |
| 08:42 | <Artifex> | why expensive? |
| 08:42 | <EFudd> | I'm just pondering how Artifex is planning on virtualizing 'd0ze without source. |
| 08:42 | <@mikegrb> | adamgent: last night they upgraded some ircds |
| 08:42 | <@adamgent> | the windows license for one |
| 08:42 | <@mikegrb> | adamgent: though more recently they aren't sure why |
| 08:42 | | * EFudd points at VMware GSX Server |
| 08:42 | <@mikegrb> | adamgent: the rehubbed one server and took another out of the round robin rotation |
| 08:42 | <Artifex> | adamgent: the user can provide his own license... and the host absolves himself of the responsability. :-) |
| 08:42 | <@adamgent> | well it is messing up my g7 |
| 08:42 | <EFudd> | Uh, what is this smelly black and brown gooey stuff all over the ground? |
| 08:43 | <EFudd> | It's kinda thick and mushy. |
| 08:43 | <EFudd> | Oh.. it's BULLSHIT. |
| 08:43 | | * EFudd goes for a shower. |
| 08:43 | <@mikegrb> | adamgent: so as users on this server go down they will be less noticeable |
| 08:43 | <Artifex> | EFudd: idiot. |
| 08:43 | <EFudd> | Artifex, Even Buddha was with flaw. |
| 08:43 | <@mikegrb> | adamgent: use orion.thegrebs.com... same server as bot, therefore no netsplit problems |
| 08:43 | <Artifex> | EFudd: i'll let you vnc into an xp install i've got going right now, if you dont believe me. :-| |
| 08:44 | <Artifex> | EFudd: it's NOT a complex technology. |
| 08:44 | <@adamgent> | you never know chris might be up for it |
| 08:44 | <EFudd> | It's not about believing. i'm just asking for more information on the concept you are proposing. :-) |
| 08:44 | <Artifex> | concept: remote accessable and manageable virtualized windows systems. |
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| 08:45 | <EFudd> | hey, how did that network driver port you were working on go? |
| 08:45 | -!- | mode/#linode [+o adamgent] by ChanServ |
| 08:45 | -!- | adamgent is now known as adamg |
| 08:45 | <Artifex> | fine. :-) |
| 08:45 | <Artifex> | working on filesystem now. |
| 08:45 | <EFudd> | So you plan on virtualizing NT's Kernel or applications? :-) |
| 08:46 | <Artifex> | we need to support an... erm... rather nonstandard dervitave of FAT, for that project, heh |
| 08:46 | <EFudd> | UML is a kernel virtualization. Application virtualiation is realatively easy. |
| 08:46 | <Artifex> | EFudd: kernel... |
| 08:46 | <EFudd> | Well good luck there. Be sure to update the folk at reactos |
| 08:46 | <EFudd> | they've been working on sompn similiar for years..... |
| 08:46 | | * Artifex shakes his head |
| 08:47 | <Artifex> | *some people* |
| 08:47 | <Artifex> | ;-) |
| 08:48 | <Artifex> | i dont plan on writing any kernel. just porting one to another. (yes, without source... CRAZY, i know) |
| 08:48 | <Artifex> | (but not nearly as difficult as you'd imagine) |
| 08:58 | <EFudd> | artifex, you are ~18-20 and self taught, eh? |
| 08:58 | <Artifex> | 21, and not entirely self taught |
| 09:00 | <tjfontaine> | go to work |
| 09:00 | <@mikegrb> | bah |
| 09:01 | <EFudd> | -nods- .... your ego is still large. :-) |
| 09:01 | <@mikegrb> | work shmerk |
| 09:01 | <Artifex> | tjfontaine: i've got a good while before i'm "too" late, yet. ;-) |
| 09:01 | <tjfontaine> | heh |
| 09:01 | <tjfontaine> | nasty weather |
| 09:01 | <tjfontaine> | sighup: weather g7 kcak |
| 09:01 | <sighup> | Try a 4-letter station code (see http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/curcond.html for locations and codes) |
| 09:01 | | * EFudd wonders off towards office |
| 09:01 | <tjfontaine> | sighup: weather kcak |
| 09:01 | <Artifex> | EFudd: no it's not... my ambition might be.... |
| 09:01 | <sighup> | Akron, Akron-Canton Regional Airport, OH, United States ; (KCAK) 40-55-05N 081-26-33W 377M; last updated: Dec 05, 2003 08:24 AM EST; Dew Point: 32 F (0 C); Pressure (altimeter): 29.95 in. Hg (1014 hPa); Pressure tendency: 0.08 inches (2.6 hPa) lower than three hours ago; Relative Humidity: 100%; Sky conditions: overcast; Temperature: 32 F (0 C); Visibility: 3/4 mile(s); Weather: A trace; Wind: from the E (090 degrees) at 13 MPH (11 KT) (direction variable) |
| 09:01 | <@mikegrb> | tjfontaine: you like mine better? |
| 09:02 | <tjfontaine> | mikegrb: ya cause its not stuck in #xbox-linux mode :-) |
| 09:02 | <@mikegrb> | oh heh |
| 09:02 | <@mikegrb> | yes |
| 09:02 | <tjfontaine> | Artifex: they're callin for 9" by days end |
| 09:02 | <Artifex> | EFudd: the nt derivitave kernels, at their core, consist of about 13-19 simple functions. these are the only functions that ever access hardware directly, and the only parts of the whole kernel that are specific to platform |
| 09:02 | <EFudd> | artifex, ponder this.... someone asks a question and you respond "idiot" .... you take a road for explanation that assumes no logical comprehension abilities behind the subject you are interfacing with... these and more tend to give one the view that an inflated ego exists. Ambition doesn't belittle, large ego does. |
| 09:03 | <EFudd> | So you have to add items such as Netbios, IP stack, UI, etc on top of that? |
| 09:03 | <EFudd> | If say you were going ot "truely virtualize" the "XP" Experience? |
| 09:04 | <Artifex> | yes, but those dont need any virtualization.... |
| 09:04 | <Artifex> | they'll hapilly run on a virtualized kernel |
| 09:05 | <EFudd> | Are you telling me that NT's Netbios stack will happily break itself down into seperate unique sessions, one claiming to be FOO and the other BAR that will happily communicate to each other? |
| 09:05 | <Artifex> | no, but 2 seperate netbios stacks running on 2 seperate kernels will happily communicate, yes. |
| 09:06 | <EFudd> | Hmmm..... |
| 09:06 | <EFudd> | and NTs normal operating mode won't prove troublesome with raw hardware access? |
| 09:06 | <Artifex> | (both of those kernels, of course, running as managed processes on a third kernel, which actually puts the frames on the ether) |
| 09:06 | | * Artifex has to get to work in a second, too |
| 09:07 | | * EFudd has code to do all netbios ops using raw sockets for win32 |
| 09:07 | <EFudd> | i just finished porting it over to linsux in fact. |
| 09:07 | <Artifex> | there's very little in the kernel that DOES do raw hardware access |
| 09:07 | <EFudd> | .. anyway. good luck, ambitious project. :-) |
| 09:07 | <Artifex> | and "well behaved" drivers dont. |
| 09:07 | <EFudd> | well behaved drivers shouldn't. |
| 09:07 | <EFudd> | Meaning that's part of 'd0ze certification. |
| 09:07 | <Artifex> | non-"well behaved" drivers couldnt possibly be supported. :-) |
| 09:08 | <EFudd> | i'd just ponder "why?!" |
| 09:08 | <EFudd> | the only time i hack on windows is when it's absolutely required. ... :P |
| 09:08 | <Artifex> | and, really, most of the hardware access is done by 1 specific function, the "IoCtl" |
| 09:09 | <EFudd> | er actually |
| 09:09 | <EFudd> | what you are talking about is described in MSDN.. heh. |
| 09:09 | <EFudd> | with examples for say, the CE.NET platform.... |
| 09:10 | <EFudd> | OAL provides for that virtualization |
| 09:10 | | * EFudd heh's |
| 09:10 | <Artifex> | yes... i know. :-) CE.NET is an nt derivitave kernel (with source) that MICROSOFT already gladly virtualized for you. |
| 09:10 | <tjfontaine> | what an interseting concept |
| 09:10 | <Artifex> | thats where i got the idea |
| 09:10 | <EFudd> | Yeah... |
| 09:10 | <Artifex> | :-) |
| 09:10 | <EFudd> | ok. |
| 09:10 | <Artifex> | have to get to work... :-) |
| 09:10 | <EFudd> | see, this coulda been avoided with "check OAL" :-) |
| 09:10 | | * EFudd too |
| 09:10 | <EFudd> | l8s |
| 09:10 | | * Artifex smiles. |
| 09:11 | <EFudd> | DAMNIt |
| 09:11 | <EFudd> | one of my feets is beeger than the other |
| 09:12 | <EFudd> | fucking shoes. |
| 09:12 | <EFudd> | stupid cold weather made me buy shoes instead of my sandals |
| 09:12 | <EFudd> | uncomfortable creations! |
| 09:24 | -!- | Netsplit jupiter.oftc.net <-> unununium.oftc.net quits: Efudd-he, nick |
| 09:24 | -!- | Netsplit over, joins: nick, Efudd-he |
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| 09:47 | <Artifexx> | EFudd: still around? |
| 09:48 | <EFudd> | yeah |
| 09:48 | <EFudd> | just doing the work migration |
| 09:49 | <EFudd> | sde : block size assumed to be 512 bytes, disk size 1GB. |
| 09:49 | | * EFudd ponders |
| 09:49 | <Artifexx> | it occurs to me that calling an idea that someone has put forth "BULLSHIT" simply because they are perhaps younger and have less formal education then you, and failing to take into account the fact that they may, despite the age and educational difference, have more experience and done more research on the subject then you is more then slightly egotistical... |
| 09:49 | <Artifexx> | so |
| 09:49 | <EFudd> | it's 256MB damnit! |
| 09:49 | <Artifexx> | perhaps "Idiot" was just an egotistical reaction to an egotistical reaction... |
| 09:49 | <EFudd> | Lol. |
| 09:49 | <Artifexx> | and your calling me egotistical was really the pot calling the kettle black. :-) |
| 09:49 | <EFudd> | I'm 100pct self taught, no school and fairly mild unless challenged. :-) |
| 09:49 | <EFudd> | i've forgotten more than I can remember. :) |
| 09:50 | <Artifexx> | Taking such into an account, I just want you to know that i have nothing against you personally, and find you generally to be a quite interesting and capable fellow. :-) |
| 09:50 | <EFudd> | that was funny you had that queue'd up |
| 09:50 | <EFudd> | ;-) |
| 09:50 | <Artifexx> | but, as i recently told nick here... "You'd find it wise, in the future, NOT to tell me what I am and am not capable of." :-) |
| 09:50 | <EFudd> | in fact, I think it was worth it just cause of the humor in that being queue'd up :-) |
| 09:50 | <EFudd> | that's ego tho :) |
| 09:51 | <Artifexx> | :-) |
| 09:51 | <EFudd> | oic, the USB stfuf in linsux is finding a bunch of drives |
| 09:51 | <EFudd> | cause this thingamabob supports a buncha diff types of media |
| 09:51 | | * EFudd ponders how to locate the one for the CF slot |
| 09:51 | <Artifexx> | what thingaamabob? |
| 09:52 | <EFudd> | lexmark usb card reader |
| 09:52 | <EFudd> | i need to write a raw image to a CF card to boot my libretto from |
| 09:52 | <EFudd> | 'd0ze refuses to lemme do it without writing code |
| 09:52 | <Artifexx> | ahh |
| 09:52 | <Artifexx> | hrmm |
| 09:52 | <EFudd> | so i have this USB reader thingy |
| 09:52 | <Artifexx> | actually |
| 09:52 | <Artifexx> | a few good hex editors will do it. :-) |
| 09:52 | <EFudd> | linsux should allow me to do so once i find the approrpriate device |
| 09:52 | <Artifexx> | (in windows, that is) |
| 09:52 | <Artifexx> | yes, it should... |
| 09:53 | <EFudd> | SCSI device sdb: 503808 512-byte hdwr sectors (258 MB) |
| 09:53 | <EFudd> | Bewm. |
| 09:53 | | * Artifexx runs off to find coffee |
| 10:06 | <EFudd> | okee. ISO won't work like that. |
| 10:06 | <EFudd> | need to copy the files via fat and somehow make the CF card bootable |
| 10:09 | <eurozip> | sighup, g7 eurozip |
| 10:09 | <sighup> | #G7 stats for eurozip, the heh -- Current Level: 33 | Time to next level: 0 days, 04:49:43 | Status: offline | Item Total: 276 | Total Time Idled: 6 days, 12:30:00 |
| 10:09 | <eurozip> | sighup, g7 eurozip |
| 10:09 | <sighup> | #G7 stats for eurozip, the heh -- Current Level: 33 | Time to next level: 0 days, 04:49:28 | Status: online | Item Total: 276 | Total Time Idled: 6 days, 12:30:15 |
| 10:10 | <Griswald> | neat :) |
| 10:10 | <EFudd> | jasonl@foobar jasonl $ wget www.embeddedx86.com/downloads/CF_images/TS-base-256.cf |
| 10:10 | <EFudd> | i'm in business. |
| 10:11 | <EFudd> | bootable 256MB CF blank |
| 10:11 | <Griswald> | sighup, g7 Griswald |
| 10:11 | <Griswald> | pfft. |
| 10:11 | <Griswald> | ;P |
| 10:11 | <sighup> | #G7 stats for Griswald, the MUD God -- Current Level: 13 | Time to next level: 0 days, 01:08:41 | Status: online | Item Total: 76 | Total Time Idled: 0 days, 06:21:05 |
| 10:13 | <Artifexx> | EFudd: what do you do? |
| 10:13 | <EFudd> | nothing these days. |
| 10:13 | <EFudd> | waiting on a new job. :) |
| 10:13 | <Artifexx> | ahh |
| 10:13 | <Artifexx> | brb |
| 10:14 | <EFudd> | i've been called "Senior" in Unix, NT, IP Networking and Storage networking (ie, FC and such) |
| 10:14 | <EFudd> | meaning I can Do Shit. |
| 10:19 | <Artifexx> | heh |
| 10:20 | <Artifexx> | but, you do embedded development? any SoC work? |
| 10:20 | <EFudd> | nah, I don't. |
| 10:21 | <EFudd> | im' just a geek SA who gets tossed into quite a few things. |
| 10:21 | <Artifexx> | ahh, k. |
| 10:21 | <EFudd> | lots of trace analysis and debugging/reproduction for cores, code, networking frames and FC frames. |
| 10:21 | <EFudd> | I've actually been trained on fibre channel... otherwise Ijust read the RFC, parse, and go from there. |
| 10:22 | <Artifexx> | cuz i was gonna say, if you were into embedded devices, i might have a project i could get you on, but... |
| 10:22 | <EFudd> | I'm lazy too. |
| 10:22 | <EFudd> | ;-) |
| 10:22 | <EFudd> | I don't do shit unless I have to. |
| 10:22 | <Artifexx> | heh |
| 10:22 | <Artifexx> | that'll be the death of you. ;-) |
| 10:22 | <EFudd> | yup. |
| 10:22 | <EFudd> | it happens with burnout. :-) |
| 10:22 | <EFudd> | i currently get paid lots of money to sit on my ass daily and wait for the company to grow again. |
| 10:23 | <Artifexx> | sounds similar to where i'm at with the dayjob, lol |
| 10:23 | <Artifexx> | lately i've been stuck on this horrid data-visualization project |
| 10:23 | <Artifexx> | but i get to play with graphviz alot, so, im happy with that |
| 10:23 | | * Artifexx <3 graphviz |
| 10:26 | <EFudd> | like right now, I'm writing out a design for virtualizing our business processes.... |
| 10:26 | <EFudd> | modifying phone systems, CRM and all tools so we can pretend to be CustomerA, CustomerB, etc |
| 10:26 | <EFudd> | blahblah |
| 10:26 | <EFudd> | not what I wanna be doing. but hey.... |
| 10:27 | <Artifexx> | if it pays the bills, and keeps the company's doors open.... right? |
| 10:27 | <EFudd> | aye |
| 10:27 | <EFudd> | reality is, I get paid 6figures to do 1hr of work each week. |
| 10:27 | <EFudd> | it's fairly boring. |
| 10:28 | <EFudd> | I used to be busy. |
| 10:31 | <Artifexx> | yah... i prefer the busy. :-) |
| 10:32 | | * EFudd uses "crap-tastic" in email going to management |
| 10:33 | <EFudd> | I enjoy my humor at lest. |
| 10:33 | <EFudd> | s/lest/least/ |
| 10:33 | <Artifexx> | anyways, speaking of busy.... hafta go solve a UI bug (blech) :-) |
| 10:33 | <Artifexx> | bbiab |
| 10:33 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 10:34 | <@mikegrb> | I used spiffy in an email to boss's boss's boss yesterday |
| 10:34 | <@mikegrb> | she commented on it this morning heh |
| 10:34 | <EFudd> | great. I have to use visio |
| 10:51 | <nick> | AWWW NOT VISIO AWWW POOR BABY :( :( :( |
| 10:51 | <nick> | at least its not visual source safe |
| 10:52 | | * Artifexx chuckles |
| 10:52 | <Artifexx> | that's very true |
| 10:53 | <nick> | pwnt |
| 10:53 | <nick> | hm |
| 10:53 | <nick> | im not too impressed with audigy2 zs platinum |
| 10:55 | <Artifexx> | i have one i havnt even opened yet |
| 10:55 | <Artifexx> | been sitting in the shrinkwrap for a GOOD while now |
| 10:55 | <Artifexx> | wait... think you were with me when i bought it! |
| 10:55 | <Artifexx> | wernt you? |
| 10:56 | <nick> | porbably |
| 10:56 | <nick> | probably |
| 10:56 | <nick> | it sounds pretty muchexactly like my onboard audio |
| 10:56 | <nick> | but with 6 shitty creative processes eating ram |
| 10:56 | <nick> | :/ |
| 10:57 | <nick> | except i was able to play ac2 with EAX set to 'bathroom' and everything sounded echoy |
| 10:58 | <nick> | terribly useful |
| 10:59 | <Artifexx> | what sort of speakers/hookups you using? |
| 10:59 | <nick> | no idea |
| 10:59 | <Artifexx> | the audigy ex sounded INCREDIBLE in my room, w/ spdif to my receiver |
| 11:00 | <nick> | http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?page=products/details&CRID=2&CONTENTID=5045&countryid=19&languageid=1 |
| 11:00 | <nick> | that |
| 11:00 | <nick> | those |
| 11:00 | <Artifexx> | the positional audio was spot on |
| 11:01 | <nick> | who the fuck says spot on |
| 11:01 | <Artifexx> | you have dolby in your room? |
| 11:02 | <nick> | no dont think so |
| 11:02 | <nick> | i donno |
| 11:02 | <nick> | i suck at that shit |
| 11:02 | <Artifexx> | heh, well, do you have a receiver... that says "dolby" on it? ;-) |
| 11:02 | <nick> | no |
| 11:02 | <Artifexx> | hrmm |
| 11:03 | <Artifexx> | should get one. |
| 11:03 | <nick> | i dont have a reciever period |
| 11:05 | <Artifexx> | hrmm |
| 11:05 | <Artifexx> | well |
| 11:05 | <Artifexx> | all well |
| 11:05 | <Artifexx> | bleh, the Genealogy code is getting ridiculously unwieldy again.... i should do some tidying today |
| 11:28 | <Griswald> | I'm thinkin about getting the 6 speaker surround sound for my computer system: ) |
| 11:29 | <Griswald> | I only have to replace my monitor and speakers and I have a brand new system :D (rest is hand built) |
| 12:05 | | * Artifexx has dolby 6.1 |
| 12:05 | <Artifexx> | 600w (small bedroom) |
| 12:06 | <Artifexx> | dts |
| 12:06 | <Artifexx> | it's very enjoyable. :-) |
| 12:06 | <Artifexx> | especially w/ the xbox games. :-D |
| 12:26 | | * EFudd ponders |
| 12:26 | <EFudd> | 59% [++++++++++++=========> ] 153,345,964 21.11K/s ETA 1:22:34 |
| 12:26 | | * EFudd continues to try to download CF image |
| 12:27 | <EFudd> | 11:56 <@Dys> Among the RIAA's recent targets is retiree Ernest Brenot, 79, of |
| 12:27 | <EFudd> | Ridgefield, Washington, who wrote in a handwritten note to a |
| 12:27 | <EFudd> | federal judge that he does not own a computer nor can he operate |
| 12:27 | <EFudd> | one. |
| 12:29 | <inkblot> | no doubt he's the hand-off man for a massive CDR trading ring |
| 12:29 | <EFudd> | 12:25 <@marcus> NORTH BRUNSWICK, N.J. (AP) In less time than it took a North |
| 12:29 | <EFudd> | Brunswick patrolman to write a ticket for an unregistered |
| 12:29 | <EFudd> | vehicle, the driver got his car registered online Thursday. |
| 12:29 | <EFudd> | 12:25 <@marcus> When officer Jason Zier pulled over a 1992 Mazda 626 on |
| 12:29 | <EFudd> | Thursday afternoon, the vehicle's registration had expired. By |
| 12:29 | <EFudd> | the time he'd finished writing up Sean Leach for the |
| 12:30 | <EFudd> | infraction, the car was legal again. |
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| 12:36 | <@adamg> | sighup linode avail |
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| 12:36 | <inkblot> | snowballs in july, man |
| 12:40 | <risto> | hmmm |
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