| --- | Log | opened Thu Dec 04 00:00:10 2003 |
| 00:00 | <tjfontaine> | you know the kind that laugh with you while your laughing at them, but they don't know why they are laughing... |
| 00:01 | <tjfontaine> | the reboot isn't even scheduled for today |
| 00:01 | <tjfontaine> | twit |
| 00:02 | -!- | slacker [~You_Wish@adsl-068-209-131-003.sip.jax.bellsouth.net] has joined #linode |
| 00:02 | <inkblot> | Oh. |
| 00:02 | <slacker> | anybody human alive yet |
| 00:02 | <tjfontaine> | All Linodes will be shutdown properly, the host will be rebooted, and then your |
| 00:02 | <tjfontaine> | Linode will be booted using the last used config profile. |
| 00:02 | <@caker> | slacker, what's up? |
| 00:03 | <tjfontaine> | means you don't have to touch anything |
| 00:03 | <slacker> | caker stupid questions i have |
| 00:03 | <slacker> | should i be shutting system down |
| 00:03 | <tjfontaine> | ... |
| 00:03 | <slacker> | for updates |
| 00:03 | <inkblot> | this sentence no verb |
| 00:03 | <@caker> | It will shutdown your linode automaticlly, so no. |
| 00:03 | <slacker> | inkblot please give me break |
| 00:03 | <tjfontaine> | inkblot: strong with the force this one is not |
| 00:04 | <slacker> | caker is there anything i have to do |
| 00:04 | <@caker> | slacker: what distro are you running? |
| 00:04 | <slacker> | rh8 |
| 00:05 | <@caker> | probbaly not .. everything should come back up after it reboots |
| 00:05 | <slacker> | cause i want to fix a few things while we are going down |
| 00:05 | -!- | Sh8d0w [~DaPimpinM@h-68-167-64-238.NYCMNY83.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #linode |
| 00:05 | <slacker> | caker you said something about swap file not being high enought |
| 00:05 | <@caker> | slacker: then do it beforehand, and leave your Linode shutdown until I update the forum thread |
| 00:05 | <slacker> | i just add a ip |
| 00:06 | <slacker> | and i want to fix the swap like you were telling us it should be |
| 00:06 | <slacker> | i think you said it should be what size recommend |
| 00:06 | <@caker> | 256 |
| 00:06 | <slacker> | k let change that |
| 00:06 | <slacker> | one more stupid question please |
| 00:07 | <@caker> | go for it |
| 00:07 | <tjfontaine> | the matrix is about choice |
| 00:07 | <tjfontaine> | there see answered |
| 00:07 | <slacker> | i first load the distro and i had the size of the harddrive to max |
| 00:07 | <@caker> | right |
| 00:07 | <slacker> | but when i booted it said out of memory |
| 00:07 | <@caker> | you mean disk full? |
| 00:07 | <slacker> | yes |
| 00:08 | <slacker> | i beleve that was correct |
| 00:08 | <slacker> | it didn't make since cause i said i want to use all |
| 00:08 | <@caker> | is the disk full? |
| 00:08 | <slacker> | no not now |
| 00:08 | <slacker> | so i put it to 1gig |
| 00:08 | <slacker> | then it booted |
| 00:08 | <slacker> | but now it is too smalle |
| 00:09 | <slacker> | i just dont want it to run out again |
| 00:09 | <@caker> | you have 5 GB unallocated -- you could resize to the max number |
| 00:09 | <@caker> | slacker: Enter a value between 1 and 6016 |
| 00:09 | <slacker> | k |
| 00:09 | <slacker> | let look |
| 00:09 | <slacker> | brb |
| 00:09 | <@caker> | :) |
| 00:11 | <slacker> | disk image is where i change to 256 |
| 00:11 | <slacker> | under new? |
| 00:11 | <@caker> | Do this: |
| 00:12 | <slacker> | k |
| 00:12 | <@caker> | New disk image, Label: 256MB Swap Image, size: 256, type: swap |
| 00:12 | <@caker> | Delete 128MB swap Image |
| 00:12 | <@caker> | Click on Configuration Profiles --> Your "redhat" config |
| 00:13 | <slacker> | something just disappear there |
| 00:13 | <@caker> | select "256MB swap image" for /dev/ubdb (the second one) |
| 00:13 | <slacker> | there were two rh8 |
| 00:13 | <@caker> | I deleted it :) |
| 00:13 | <slacker> | great |
| 00:13 | <slacker> | thanks |
| 00:15 | <slacker> | dam did i just screw up |
| 00:15 | <slacker> | ahhhh |
| 00:15 | <@caker> | nope |
| 00:15 | <@caker> | just make the swap now |
| 00:18 | <slacker> | ok now add hdd space |
| 00:18 | <@caker> | it has to be shutdown to resize ... |
| 00:18 | <slacker> | but i still need to set |
| 00:18 | <slacker> | is that here Create Linode Configuration Profile |
| 00:19 | <@caker> | no .. under disk image |
| 00:19 | <slacker> | should i just try use all |
| 00:20 | <@caker> | Might as well |
| 00:20 | <@caker> | since you only run one profile all the time |
| 00:20 | <slacker> | or is there another reason to save it for somthing else |
| 00:20 | | * inkblot watches slacker create a 5GB swap |
| 00:21 | <@caker> | not really a reason to save, since you can (worst case) delete the swap to create a rescue install |
| 00:21 | <slacker> | ok saved |
| 00:21 | <slacker> | i think that was the area i max it out and it said it was full |
| 00:21 | <slacker> | and took it to 1000 |
| 00:22 | <@caker> | Status: Failed Host Message: Linode must be shutdown before resize |
| 00:22 | <slacker> | and it work |
| 00:22 | <slacker> | can i wait to reboot with everybody |
| 00:22 | <slacker> | so it is just one boot |
| 00:22 | <slacker> | and less down time |
| 00:22 | | * caker glares at mikegrb |
| 00:23 | <@caker> | no way to schedule a resize, so no .. |
| 00:23 | <slacker> | so there will two reboots one for resize and one update corrext |
| 00:24 | <@caker> | Yes |
| 00:24 | <slacker> | ouch |
| 00:24 | <slacker> | k |
| 00:24 | <@caker> | Your resize will take about 120 seconds |
| 00:25 | <slacker> | at least the reboots will be close together |
| 00:25 | <@caker> | You should do yours first, that way you can make sure everything runs at boot time and fix it |
| 00:25 | <slacker> | looks like it is in some kind of process |
| 00:26 | <slacker> | something faile |
| 00:26 | <@caker> | er -- you have to shutdown, resize, then boot .. not Reboot |
| 00:26 | <slacker> | k |
| 00:27 | <slacker> | resize |
| 00:27 | <slacker> | so everything i just did before shutdown didn't take |
| 00:27 | <@caker> | Just the resize |
| 00:27 | <@caker> | failed |
| 00:29 | <@mikegrb> | caker: ? |
| 00:29 | <@caker> | hehe -- he wants "on-next-reboot" resize too |
| 00:29 | <@mikegrb> | oh |
| 00:29 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 00:29 | <@mikegrb> | yup |
| 00:29 | <@mikegrb> | told you |
| 00:30 | <slacker> | ok looks like it is done |
| 00:30 | <@caker> | what does "df -h" show? |
| 00:31 | <slacker> | i added a ip |
| 00:31 | <slacker> | is that why |
| 00:32 | <@caker> | Yeah, it moved to the primary |
| 00:34 | <slacker> | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 00:34 | <slacker> | none 92M 0 91M 0% /dev/shm |
| 00:34 | <slacker> | .Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 00:34 | <slacker> | none 92M 0 91M 0% /dev/shm |
| 00:35 | <@caker> | the / |
| 00:35 | <slacker> | ./dev/ubda 4.7G 556M 4.0G 12% / |
| 00:35 | <@caker> | sweet |
| 00:36 | <slacker> | ya this has got to be the coolest thing i have ever done |
| 00:36 | <@caker> | good job |
| 00:36 | <slacker> | thaks |
| 00:36 | <slacker> | i am sweating bloaders |
| 00:36 | <@caker> | you are in control |
| 00:37 | <slacker> | so now is just wait for your reboot for kernal |
| 00:37 | <@caker> | yup |
| 00:38 | <slacker> | is that going now |
| 00:38 | <@caker> | Tomorrow for host6 |
| 00:38 | <slacker> | hmm |
| 00:39 | <slacker> | that gives me time to fix ip and add other stuff cool |
| 00:39 | <slacker> | thanks again i am out |
| 00:39 | <slacker> | linode rules |
| 00:39 | -!- | slacker [~You_Wish@adsl-068-209-131-003.sip.jax.bellsouth.net] has quit [Quit: ©®îMîñå£ (www.come.to/ircghost) - Using Theme: Plain Theme] |
| 00:39 | <@caker> | no prob -- cya |
| 00:40 | <inkblot> | http://douglas.min.net/essay/ <-- slacker |
| 00:47 | -!- | Sh8d0w [~DaPimpinM@h-68-167-64-238.NYCMNY83.dynamic.covad.net] has quit [Quit: ...] |
| 00:49 | <@mikegrb> | bwahaha |
| 00:49 | <@mikegrb> | that is hillarious inkblot |
| 00:50 | -!- | slacker [~You_Wish@adsl-068-209-131-003.sip.jax.bellsouth.net] has joined #linode |
| 00:50 | <slacker> | i parted to fast |
| 00:50 | <slacker> | anybody still alive |
| 00:50 | <inkblot> | i killed them all |
| 00:51 | <slacker> | i am leaving if it just u |
| 00:52 | <slacker> | inkblot have some mercey on me |
| 00:53 | <slacker> | just tell me know and i go away |
| 00:53 | <sinned> | inkblot, any idea where that came from |
| 00:53 | <inkblot> | no idea |
| 00:53 | <inkblot> | my roommate found it |
| 00:53 | <slacker> | any you gusy know about ip when you add new one |
| 00:54 | <inkblot> | puedo a ayudarse en español |
| 01:03 | <inkblot> | pardon, ayudarte |
| 01:06 | -!- | slacker [~You_Wish@adsl-068-209-131-003.sip.jax.bellsouth.net] has left #linode [] |
| 01:08 | | * mikegrb notices it go strangley quite after someone shows up |
| 01:08 | | * mikegrb goes for a smoke |
| 01:40 | -!- | slacker [~You_Wish@adsl-068-209-131-003.sip.jax.bellsouth.net] has joined #linode |
| 01:40 | <slacker> | anybody back alive yet |
| 01:42 | <inkblot> | http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Alias/ <-- everything you need to know |
| 01:51 | <slacker> | i just found the bug |
| 01:51 | <slacker> | caker |
| 01:51 | <slacker> | Site Admin |
| 01:51 | <slacker> | Joined: 15 Apr 2003 |
| 01:51 | <slacker> | Posts: 637 |
| 01:51 | <slacker> | Location: Nashville, TN |
| 01:51 | <slacker> | Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 12:14 pm Post subject: Additional IP addresses |
| 01:51 | <slacker> | |
| 01:51 | <slacker> | thanks |
| 01:51 | <slacker> | i knew i read about it |
| 01:52 | <slacker> | i just did n't know what to put in the search in the forum to find it |
| 02:02 | <slacker> | crap still dont work |
| 02:52 | <wap> | Good morning. |
| 02:52 | <EFudd> | sup folk. |
| 02:56 | <wap> | I should update my personal website... but I feel too tired today... |
| 03:07 | <@caker> | slacker: are you all set? |
| 03:07 | <@caker> | morning wap |
| 03:07 | <slacker> | no |
| 03:07 | <slacker> | i been trying to fix ip |
| 03:07 | <@caker> | slacker: want me to exchange the IP you have for one that's higher in sorting, so that your orig. ip is the primary? |
| 03:07 | <slacker> | i found your note in the forum for settting ip |
| 03:07 | <slacker> | but didnt work |
| 03:08 | <slacker> | o please |
| 03:08 | <@caker> | one sec |
| 03:08 | <slacker> | thanks |
| 03:08 | <EFudd> | mm |
| 03:08 | <EFudd> | i wanna sue a bunch of spammers |
| 03:08 | <EFudd> | basiclaly all of them. |
| 03:08 | <EFudd> | fudd.net is useless cause elmer@fudd.net apparently likes spamming folk |
| 03:09 | <@caker> | slacker: reboot, and your new IPs are 69.56.173.176 and 69.56.173.177 |
| 03:10 | <slacker> | cool thanks |
| 03:10 | <slacker> | Lionde rules |
| 03:10 | <EFudd> | host6? |
| 03:10 | <@caker> | tomorrow evening |
| 03:10 | | * EFudd braces for impact |
| 03:10 | <@caker> | init=rm -rf / |
| 03:11 | <@caker> | whoops! |
| 03:11 | <EFudd> | np! |
| 03:11 | <EFudd> | that'd be a nasty hack :) |
| 03:12 | <EFudd> | so.. guess slacker just rebooted |
| 03:12 | <EFudd> | :-) |
| 03:12 | <@caker> | nice |
| 03:12 | <slacker> | fingers crossed |
| 03:12 | <@caker> | tomorrow you can test the network :) |
| 03:16 | <slacker> | does it matter which i do |
| 03:16 | <slacker> | ifconfig eth0:1 [insert additional IP #1 here] netmask 255.255.255.0 up |
| 03:16 | <slacker> | ifconfig eth0:2 [insert additional IP #2 here] netmask 255.255.255.0 up |
| 03:16 | <slacker> | for the new ip |
| 03:16 | <@caker> | yeah? |
| 03:16 | <slacker> | ifcofig still shows one ip |
| 03:16 | <@caker> | ifconfig eth0:1 69.56.173.177 netmask 255.255.255.0 up |
| 03:17 | <slacker> | k |
| 03:18 | <slacker> | shouldn't i beable to connect to either one of those ips with putty |
| 03:19 | <slacker> | both come up on ifconfig now |
| 03:19 | <@caker> | can you ping both? |
| 03:19 | <slacker> | checking |
| 03:19 | <@caker> | you should be able to connect to both ips.. if not, restart sshd |
| 03:20 | <slacker> | ya they ping both |
| 03:20 | <slacker> | restart shhd |
| 03:20 | <slacker> | that is what the putty connect in |
| 03:21 | <slacker> | into |
| 03:21 | <@caker> | yes |
| 03:22 | <slacker> | no restart on ssh --help |
| 03:22 | <@caker> | try /etc/rc.d/init.d/sshd restart |
| 03:24 | <slacker> | still can't connect using putty on 69.56.173.177 |
| 03:24 | <slacker> | Stopping sshd: [ OK ] |
| 03:24 | <slacker> | Starting sshd: [ OK ] |
| 03:24 | <slacker> | [root@Slick root][root@Slick root]# |
| 03:24 | <@caker> | try netstat -lpn |
| 03:25 | <@caker> | netstat -pln | grep sshd |
| 03:25 | <slacker> | 267/dhcpcd |
| 03:25 | <slacker> | raw 0 0 69.56.173.176:1 0.0.0.0:* 7 |
| 03:25 | <slacker> | 488/ping |
| 03:25 | <slacker> | raw 0 0 69.56.173.177:1 0.0.0.0:* 7 |
| 03:25 | <slacker> | tcp 0 0 :::22 :::* LISTEN 506/sshd |
| 03:26 | <@caker> | I can connect |
| 03:26 | <slacker> | let check agai |
| 03:26 | <@caker> | both IPs work for me ... |
| 03:26 | <slacker> | k |
| 03:26 | <slacker> | must be me |
| 03:27 | <slacker> | my bust |
| 03:27 | <slacker> | i forgot to change the putty port |
| 03:27 | <slacker> | soory |
| 03:27 | <slacker> | thanks for you time agian |
| 03:27 | <@caker> | np |
| 03:27 | <slacker> | lionde is the bomb |
| 03:30 | <EFudd> | :-) |
| 03:31 | <EFudd> | i think i'm gonna have to remove the MX record for fudd.net :/ |
| 03:31 | <@caker> | that bad? |
| 03:31 | <@caker> | my theshore email is almost useless |
| 03:32 | <EFudd> | yeah. |
| 03:32 | <EFudd> | elmer@fudd.net seems a popular spam source. |
| 03:32 | <EFudd> | I also get very legit email to elmer@fudd.net. |
| 03:32 | <EFudd> | Such as, someone's home searches form homefinder. |
| 03:32 | <EFudd> | Boggle as to why they used Elmer@fudd. :-) |
| 03:33 | <EFudd> | |
| 03:33 | <EFudd> | You have successfully 'unsubscribed' from Baird and Warner's HomeFinder service. |
| 03:42 | <EFudd> | http://savannah.gnu.org/statement.html |
| 03:43 | <@caker> | geesh |
| 03:43 | <EFudd> | yah. |
| 03:44 | <EFudd> | rough waves lately in OS land |
| 04:30 | <@caker> | http://rsync.samba.org/ |
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| 08:43 | <Artifex> | so it was an rsync bug + the do_brk() bug, eh? |
| 08:43 | | * Artifex lost a bet |
| 08:44 | | * Artifex goes off to patch his cvs server |
| 08:46 | <@adamg> | what is it with this current block of hacking, have they got bored with windows servers |
| 08:46 | <EFudd> | Well this is interesting. |
| 08:46 | <EFudd> | pwd |
| 08:46 | <EFudd> | /proc/ide/ide0/hda |
| 08:46 | <EFudd> | jasonl@foobar hda $ ls |
| 08:46 | <EFudd> | capacity capacity driver identify media model settings |
| 08:47 | <EFudd> | devfs creating dupe entries |
| 08:47 | <EFudd> | 4388 -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 4 04:41 capacity |
| 08:47 | <EFudd> | 4388 -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 4 04:41 capacity |
| 08:48 | <@adamg> | the bloody internet is getting worse |
| 08:49 | <@adamg> | fibre cables should be incased in 10" armed steal |
| 08:52 | <Artifex> | or coders shouldnt write buggy MMUs into their "secure" OSes. :-P |
| 08:53 | | * Artifex wrote a TRUE secure OS once... wanna see it? |
| 08:54 | <tjfontaine> | (he's gonna show it anyway ;-) ) |
| 08:54 | <Artifex> | spin: jmp spin |
| 08:54 | | * Artifex chuckles, winks to TJ, and heads off to work |
| 08:54 | | * tjfontaine goes to class |
| 08:56 | | * adamg notes the new donation link on the g7 site |
| 08:58 | | * mikegrb snickers |
| 08:58 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 08:59 | <@mikegrb> | I considered putting up google adsense (adwords on my site) |
| 08:59 | <@mikegrb> | figured it wouldn't be worth it |
| 08:59 | <@mikegrb> | I'll move that to the bottom after a few days |
| 08:59 | | * mikegrb is poor |
| 08:59 | | * mikegrb must have a linode at all times |
| 08:59 | <@mikegrb> | that is mikegrb's linode fund |
| 08:59 | <Artifex> | *mikegrb* should get a job :-P |
| 09:00 | <@adamg> | or one that pays some decent money!! |
| 09:00 | <@mikegrb> | yup |
| 09:00 | | * mikegrb is in navy |
| 09:00 | <@mikegrb> | can't quit |
| 09:01 | <@adamg> | and why not |
| 09:01 | <@mikegrb> | heh then I go to jail |
| 09:01 | <@mikegrb> | anyone here us mindterm? |
| 09:01 | <@adamg> | how long are you tied to it for |
| 09:01 | <@mikegrb> | 4 more years |
| 09:02 | <@mikegrb> | well 3 in may |
| 09:02 | <@adamg> | so how long was the contract? |
| 09:02 | <@mikegrb> | 6 |
| 09:02 | <@adamg> | oh |
| 09:03 | | * mikegrb just snagged a signed copy of the minterm ssh client from a harvard server |
| 09:03 | <@mikegrb> | though it is the non-commercial liscense one so I don't feel bad |
| 09:04 | <@mikegrb> | if anyone wants it thegrebs.com/ssh.html and the .jar and .cab it references and you're in business |
| 09:05 | <EFudd> | whoop. :-) |
| 09:06 | <Artifex> | mikegrb: you should upgrade that to WeirdMind ;-) |
| 09:06 | <EFudd> | ok, that's slightly useful |
| 09:06 | | * Artifex is off to work now, he swears |
| 09:07 | <@mikegrb> | Artifex: I have weirdmind |
| 09:07 | | * EFudd moves that to his Admin directory |
| 09:07 | <@mikegrb> | but I don't have x stuff on the linode so it is kind of pointless |
| 09:08 | <@mikegrb> | EFudd: yes very |
| 09:08 | <@mikegrb> | that is how I am talking now |
| 09:08 | <@mikegrb> | the settings for size and inverse video in the html are wrong |
| 09:08 | <@mikegrb> | I just cp'ed over the ones from my ancient version |
| 09:08 | <@mikegrb> | so I need to look and see what the setting names are for the current version |
| 09:09 | <EFudd> | so how'd you get this? |
| 09:10 | <EFudd> | heh. it expired in '02 :/ |
| 09:12 | <EFudd> | 'tis free anyway, unsigned. |
| 09:12 | <@mikegrb> | it should still run fine |
| 09:12 | <EFudd> | ya, does. |
| 09:12 | <@mikegrb> | I snagged it from a harvard http server |
| 09:13 | <@mikegrb> | I was going to install the one from the website |
| 09:13 | <EFudd> | the current version from appgate only includes a single .jar |
| 09:13 | <@mikegrb> | but all the instructions for creating a cab and signing it and the jar were windows only |
| 09:13 | <EFudd> | wonder if I can sign that .jar with my key somehow. |
| 09:13 | <@mikegrb> | search google for mindbright.cab |
| 09:13 | <@mikegrb> | you'll get stuff from their mailing lists |
| 09:14 | <@mikegrb> | some windows instructions |
| 09:14 | <EFudd> | gogole? |
| 09:14 | <@mikegrb> | I just don't have access to a windows machine to use |
| 09:14 | <EFudd> | er.. google? mindbright.cab returns 0 hits |
| 09:14 | <@mikegrb> | hmmm one sec |
| 09:14 | <@mikegrb> | er mindterm.cab |
| 09:14 | <@mikegrb> | sorry |
| 09:14 | <EFudd> | lol.... right. |
| 09:14 | <@mikegrb> | only windows machine I use is at work and I don't have admin access |
| 09:14 | <@mikegrb> | so I'm sol |
| 09:15 | <EFudd> | /opt/blackdown-jdk-1.4.1/bin/jarsigner |
| 09:16 | <@mikegrb> | and making tha cabs? |
| 09:16 | <@mikegrb> | and signing them with the ms thingies? |
| 09:16 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 09:16 | <EFudd> | .cab seemed to be more complciated. |
| 09:16 | <EFudd> | :-) |
| 09:16 | <@mikegrb> | I mainly need it for ie use from work |
| 09:17 | <EFudd> | whoop |
| 09:17 | <EFudd> | it's quite functional actually |
| 09:17 | <EFudd> | actually produces better colors in mutt than gnome-terminal :) |
| 09:18 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 09:18 | <@mikegrb> | the thing I really like |
| 09:18 | <@mikegrb> | scroll back works inside screen |
| 09:18 | | * EFudd wants to physically hurt anyone who sends email with MAX_COLS > 78 |
| 09:18 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 09:18 | <@mikegrb> | yes |
| 09:19 | <EFudd> | oh? my scrollback has blank data :P |
| 09:19 | <@mikegrb> | I hate the ones that each paragraph is a really long line |
| 09:19 | <@mikegrb> | if you stay on one screen |
| 09:19 | <@mikegrb> | like a shell |
| 09:19 | <EFudd> | there are some refresh issues. |
| 09:19 | <@mikegrb> | and do stuff |
| 09:19 | <EFudd> | if I hold down like 'j' in mutt, I see ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ x 40 |
| 09:19 | <EFudd> | ^L to refresh fixes it tho |
| 09:20 | <EFudd> | i'm kinda paranoid apparently. SSL to access the webserver to do SSH locally... |
| 09:20 | <EFudd> | SSL to Webserver for password protected page to get to squirrelmail for passworded digest-md5 login via TLS to localhost for email. |
| 09:21 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 09:21 | <@mikegrb> | I use imaps from squirrelmail -> localhost |
| 09:22 | <@mikegrb> | but that is just b/c I don't want to turn on imap |
| 09:23 | <EFudd> | yah... :-) |
| 09:23 | <EFudd> | i'm actually runing imap bound to loopback currently.. squirrelmail didn't wanna do tls for some reason. |
| 09:24 | <@mikegrb> | We can't find "slashdot.org" |
| 09:24 | <@mikegrb> | Did you intend to go to one of these similar Web addresses? |
| 09:24 | <@mikegrb> | www.slashdot.org |
| 09:24 | <@mikegrb> | www.slashdot.com |
| 09:24 | <@mikegrb> | silly ie |
| 09:26 | <@mikegrb> | oh another nice thing about it |
| 09:26 | <@mikegrb> | in windows you select, it copies |
| 09:26 | <@mikegrb> | and middle click pastes |
| 09:28 | <EFudd> | ooh |
| 09:28 | <EFudd> | company provided me 50 blank 52x CDs! |
| 09:28 | | * EFudd raided storage |
| 09:29 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 09:29 | <@mikegrb> | "Microsoft to Charge for FAT File System" |
| 09:29 | <@mikegrb> | #1 story at slashdot |
| 09:29 | <EFudd> | ?? |
| 09:29 | <EFudd> | what has someone misread again.... |
| 09:29 | <EFudd> | ha. |
| 09:30 | <EFudd> | My USB key came preformated FAT |
| 09:30 | | * EFudd suggests ext2 formatting by default |
| 09:30 | <@mikegrb> | " Pricing for this license is US$0.25 per unit with a cap on total royalties of $250,000 per manufacturer" |
| 09:30 | <@mikegrb> | from http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/ip/tech/fat.asp |
| 09:30 | <EFudd> | time to develop a ext2.sys for 'd0ze |
| 09:30 | <@mikegrb> | heh yup |
| 09:30 | <EFudd> | too bad that M$ page isn't a wiki :-) |
| 09:31 | <@mikegrb> | bwahaha |
| 09:31 | <@mikegrb> | michael pts/10 08:49 12390days 0.01s 0.01s -bash |
| 09:31 | <@mikegrb> | hmmm |
| 09:31 | <EFudd> | that's nothing. |
| 09:31 | <@mikegrb> | that high number is idle time |
| 09:32 | <EFudd> | well, no, I can't beat 12k days |
| 09:32 | <@mikegrb> | for a login an hr ago |
| 09:32 | <EFudd> | 9:31am up 5085 day(s), 9:26, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.01 |
| 09:32 | <@mikegrb> | well 40 min ago |
| 09:32 | <@mikegrb> | uptime is only around 17 days |
| 09:32 | <@mikegrb> | sighup: convert 12390 day to year |
| 09:32 | <@sighup> | 12390 day is 33.9227 year. |
| 09:32 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 09:33 | <@mikegrb> | on a linode |
| 09:33 | <@mikegrb> | sighup: convert 5085 day to year |
| 09:33 | <@sighup> | 5085 day is 13.9223 year. |
| 09:33 | <EFudd> | bah, fuck filesystems |
| 09:34 | <EFudd> | just blob data to it and hope you get what you wanted on a read |
| 09:34 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 09:36 | <EFudd> | oh wow. Nero decided it could write to my MATSHITA DVD-RAM drive after all. |
| 09:39 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 09:41 | <EFudd> | mmm partimage.org |
| 10:09 | <slacker> | anybody in the mode for qouta questions |
| 10:11 | <@adamg> | maybe |
| 10:13 | <slacker> | i used the qouta command to turn on qouta last night after reboot i did seem to be there |
| 10:13 | <slacker> | not seem to be there |
| 10:13 | <slacker> | i turn it on a couple days ago |
| 10:14 | <slacker> | after reading the procedure it looked like it said it had to be turned on first then reboot then qoutas could be set |
| 10:14 | <slacker> | but i dont see that qoutas are on yet |
| 10:15 | <slacker> | we reboot again at midnight and would like to get that turn on before the reboot if possible |
| 11:13 | -!- | jax_work [~stbe@75-215-pool1.P-POOL.MARIST.EDU] has joined #linode |
| 11:41 | <@adamg> | sighup linode avail |
| 11:41 | <@sighup> | Linode availability -- [Linode 64: 7] [Linode 96: 10] [Linode 128: 0] [Linode 192: 0] [Linode 256: 0] |
| 11:43 | <@adamg> | sighup rr |
| 11:43 | -!- | adamg was kicked from #linode by sighup [*click* *click* *boom*] |
| 11:43 | -!- | adamg [~a.l.gent@cpc1-cdif1-5-0-cust33.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has joined #linode |
| 11:43 | <adamg> | sighup rr |
| 11:43 | <@sighup> | Nyet, no can you take two turns! Is not fair! |
| 11:44 | <adamg> | sighup g7 adamg |
| 11:44 | <@sighup> | #G7 stats for adamgent, the sleepy -- Current Level: 37 | Time to next level: 0 days, 07:39:02 | Status: online | Item Total: 353 | Total Time Idled: 12 days, 17:44:00 |
| 11:44 | -!- | adamgent [~a.l.gent@cpc1-cdif1-5-0-cust33.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has joined #linode |
| 11:45 | -!- | mode/#linode [+o adamgent] by ChanServ |
| 11:45 | -!- | mode/#linode [+o adamg] by adamgent |
| 11:45 | -!- | adamgent [~a.l.gent@cpc1-cdif1-5-0-cust33.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Client Quit] |
| 11:57 | <EFudd> | http://members.lycos.co.uk/croz/b3ta/lemmings.jpg |
| 11:59 | | * adamg like playing lemmings |
| 12:12 | | * adamg waits for debian to update their rsync package |
| 12:14 | <@adamg> | caker: ping |
| 12:17 | <@adamg> | /mode # +h $$1 $2 $3 |
| 12:18 | -!- | mode/#linode [-o sighup] by adamg |
| 12:18 | -!- | mode/#linode [+h sighup] by adamg |
| 12:29 | <@adamg> | sighup linode forums |
| 12:29 | <%sighup> | adamg: huh? |
| 12:29 | <@adamg> | sighup linode avail |
| 12:29 | <%sighup> | Linode availability -- [Linode 64: 7] [Linode 96: 10] [Linode 128: 0] [Linode 192: 0] [Linode 256: 0] |
| 12:29 | <@adamg> | sighup slashdot |
| 12:29 | <%sighup> | Slashdot - Updated 2003-12-04 16:50:00 | Voting Machines Vs. Slot Machines (http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/12/04/1443257) | New BattleStar Galactica Premieres Monday (http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/12/04/1423212) | Economic Analysis of the Nanotech Future (http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/12/04/1345253) | NYT on Game Mods (http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/12/04/1329246) |
| 12:44 | -!- | nick [nick@a1-4d167.neo.lrun.com] has joined #linode |
| 12:45 | <nick> | uh |
| 12:45 | <@adamg> | hi |
| 12:45 | <nick> | oh thats for a year |
| 12:45 | <nick> | nevermind |
| 12:46 | <@adamg> | rsync |
| 12:46 | <@adamg> | wrong window |
| 12:47 | | * adamg wonders when the debian servers will be back to normal |
| 12:48 | <nick> | when lunix stops getting haxd i reckon |
| 12:49 | <nick> | are there really no linode 256's left |
| 12:49 | <nick> | or is that some marketing scam |
| 12:49 | <@adamg> | ask chris |
| 12:49 | <@adamg> | or send an email to the address listed |
| 12:49 | <nick> | id rather just ask in teh mirc |
| 12:50 | <nick> | :P |
| 12:50 | <nick> | its not a big deal |
| 12:50 | <nick> | im just curious |
| 12:50 | <@adamg> | as far as I can remember there have never been nay 256's listed on the main site but there are some people on them |
| 12:50 | <@adamg> | chris did say yesterday that all plans would be available by the end of the month |
| 13:09 | <Artifex> | sighup: linode avail |
| 13:09 | <%sighup> | Linode availability -- [Linode 64: 7] [Linode 96: 10] [Linode 128: 0] [Linode 192: 0] [Linode 256: 0] |
| 13:09 | <nick> | i want a 192 |
| 13:09 | <nick> | now. |
| 13:09 | <nick> | ! |
| 13:10 | | * Artifex nudegs caker |
| 13:10 | <Artifex> | caker: if this kid buys, i get the referral! :-P |
| 13:10 | <nick> | whats a nudge |
| 13:10 | <nick> | oh |
| 13:10 | <nick> | no way |
| 13:10 | <Artifex> | *nudges |
| 13:10 | | * adamg just wants to take to caker |
| 13:11 | <Artifex> | take him what? |
| 13:11 | <@adamg> | s/take/talk |
| 13:12 | <Artifex> | :-P |
| 13:12 | <nick> | take the caker |
| 13:12 | <Artifex> | you know... you cant have your caker and eat him too! |
| 13:12 | <nick> | oh lord |
| 13:12 | <Artifex> | HEH |
| 13:26 | <inkblot> | http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=533 <-- caker |
| 13:28 | <@mikegrb> | sighup: fcol that |
| 13:28 | <%sighup> | Your fcol is http://xev.us/I( |
| 13:29 | <@adamg> | do you have to fcol everything? |
| 13:30 | <@mikegrb> | yes |
| 13:30 | <@adamg> | oh ok |
| 13:30 | <@mikegrb> | easier then copy/paste |
| 13:30 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 13:30 | <inkblot> | see also: clickolinko |
| 13:30 | <@adamg> | redhat have started academic pricing for the enterprise rh |
| 13:31 | <@mikegrb> | inkblot: ? |
| 13:31 | <inkblot> | google |
| 13:31 | <@mikegrb> | okie dokey |
| 13:37 | <@mikegrb> | interesting |
| 13:56 | <nick> | what the crap is fcol |
| 14:48 | <@guinea-sleep> | yay clickolinko |
| 14:48 | -!- | guinea-sleep is now known as guinea-pig |
| 14:48 | -!- | Griswald [Griswald@ACAC4ABB.ipt.aol.com] has joined #linode |
| 14:49 | <@adamg> | hi |
| 14:49 | <Griswald> | hey =) |
| 14:51 | <@adamg> | it is a bit quite at the momment in here |
| 14:52 | <Griswald> | Could easily be solved. |
| 14:52 | | * Griswald pulls out a rapid-fire nerf gun and starts shooting in random directions. |
| 14:52 | | * guinea-pig kicks Griswald |
| 14:53 | <Griswald> | =D |
| 14:53 | <@guinea-pig> | don't tempt me :p |
| 14:54 | <Griswald> | lol |
| 14:55 | <Quik> | what's the best FTP server to use? :) |
| 14:55 | <@adamg> | none |
| 14:55 | <@guinea-pig> | none |
| 14:55 | <@guinea-pig> | heh |
| 14:55 | <@adamg> | use sftp |
| 14:55 | <@guinea-pig> | ssh's sftp might be ok |
| 14:55 | <Quik> | ok, instead of FTP? :P |
| 14:55 | <@guinea-pig> | damn you :p |
| 14:55 | <@adamg> | yep |
| 14:55 | <@adamg> | comes with sshd |
| 14:55 | <Quik> | what's wrong with standard FTP? |
| 14:55 | <@adamg> | very secure and defaults to the users home dir |
| 14:56 | <@guinea-pig> | plaintext passwords |
| 14:56 | <@adamg> | it is not secure |
| 14:56 | <@guinea-pig> | among other things |
| 14:56 | <@guinea-pig> | i've heard of more ftp vulnerabilities than most other programs |
| 14:57 | <@adamg> | the only way I would use ftp is to run it in it's own UML env |
| 14:57 | <Quik> | can the sftp within ssh be used to both upload files from my PC and download them to the server? (probably a silly question but i have no experience with it) |
| 14:57 | <@adamg> | yep |
| 14:57 | <@adamg> | same as ftp but secure |
| 14:58 | <Quik> | ok, i'll do some reading up on it |
| 14:58 | <Quik> | thanks |
| 15:02 | <Griswald> | oh yeah, adam, even as a background process, it seems to close the program/script upon logging out |
| 15:02 | <@adamg> | you the nohup then |
| 15:02 | <@adamg> | s/you/use |
| 15:02 | <Griswald> | lol |
| 15:04 | <Griswald> | nohup refuses to work as well :) |
| 15:04 | <@adamg> | strange |
| 15:04 | <@adamg> | then load it at boot |
| 15:04 | <Griswald> | muds aren't supposed to load at boot :P |
| 15:05 | <@adamg> | why not |
| 15:05 | | * adamg pokes mikegrb |
| 15:05 | <Griswald> | their meant to be started by users at any time |
| 15:06 | <@adamg> | havnt used muds for years and never run one |
| 15:06 | <Griswald> | =) |
| 15:06 | <@adamg> | although saying that I do use a mud in the access grid labs |
| 15:07 | <Griswald> | I've messed with muds for the past 7 years now |
| 15:09 | <Griswald> | it may just be mandrake, though |
| 15:14 | <@adamg> | bbiab off to eat |
| 15:42 | <@guinea-pig> | ooh. that's a new one |
| 15:43 | <@guinea-pig> | is there some 15-step program in g7? |
| 15:43 | <@guinea-pig> | sighup: g7 gp |
| 15:43 | <%sighup> | #G7 stats for gp, the Emperor of New England -- Current Level: 40 | Time to next level: 0 days, 10:55:54 | Status: online | Item Total: 336 | Total Time Idled: 17 days, 11:33:15 |
| 15:58 | <@caker> | north |
| 15:58 | <@caker> | There is a mailbox here. |
| 15:58 | <@caker> | open mailbox |
| 15:58 | <@caker> | Echo Echo |
| 15:58 | <@caker> | bar bar |
| 15:58 | <@guinea-pig> | you have mail |
| 15:58 | <@adamg> | just the person |
| 15:58 | <@caker> | Zork rox |
| 15:59 | <@caker> | adamg: pm me a traceroute from he to you |
| 15:59 | <@guinea-pig> | zork.net rox |
| 16:01 | <@adamg> | chris when you have a sec I have a few questions about lish |
| 16:02 | <@caker> | shoot |
| 16:02 | <@adamg> | will it support login via key at some point? |
| 16:03 | <@caker> | oh yeah |
| 16:03 | <@guinea-pig> | i thought that was answered ages ago |
| 16:03 | <@caker> | yup |
| 16:03 | <@guinea-pig> | something about putting your key in through the CP |
| 16:03 | <@caker> | It will eventually |
| 16:03 | <@caker> | Right |
| 16:03 | <@guinea-pig> | "frank is the key" |
| 16:04 | <@adamg> | and would it be possible to be able to do a reboot through lish |
| 16:04 | <@caker> | Yup |
| 16:04 | <@caker> | that's the first thing I'll be adding |
| 16:04 | <@adamg> | and could you make it possible to do it through rsh |
| 16:04 | <@caker> | no, only ssh |
| 16:05 | <@adamg> | why not :-( |
| 16:05 | <@caker> | what's wrong with ssh? |
| 16:05 | <inkblot> | ha ha rsh |
| 16:05 | <inkblot> | fool |
| 16:05 | <@adamg> | bc if it is through rsh I can then aliase reboot to rsh ...@host12.linode.com reboot |
| 16:05 | <inkblot> | dude |
| 16:05 | <inkblot> | set up some keys |
| 16:05 | <@caker> | same with ssh |
| 16:05 | <inkblot> | and make the *SAME ALIAS* |
| 16:05 | <inkblot> | but with ssh instead of rsh |
| 16:06 | <inkblot> | caker, btw, when will we be able to use rsa auth? |
| 16:06 | <@guinea-pig> | that's the question. not what, but when :) |
| 16:06 | <@adamg> | you would still have to enter some command in ssh though |
| 16:06 | <inkblot> | adamg, uh, no |
| 16:06 | <@guinea-pig> | ssh user@host command |
| 16:06 | <inkblot> | ssh is an rsh replacement |
| 16:06 | <@caker> | it will parse incoming arguments as commands |
| 16:07 | <@adamg> | oh ok |
| 16:07 | <@caker> | so "ssh foo@bar reboot" -- lish gets the "reboot" arg |
| 16:07 | <inkblot> | everyone and his uncle knows that |
| 16:07 | <@guinea-pig> | i use ssh orion@parsed.net -t "screen -d -r" all the time |
| 16:07 | <@adamg> | that will be good |
| 16:07 | | * guinea-pig forgets where he picked up -t from |
| 16:08 | <@adamg> | at least that way reboot would actually do a reboot and make life easier |
| 16:10 | <@adamg> | -t force pseudo-tty alloc |
| 16:11 | <@adamg> | what else is planned for lish? |
| 16:12 | <@caker> | shutdown, reboot [profile #] |
| 16:12 | <@caker> | um |
| 16:12 | <@caker> | possibly deployments, too |
| 16:12 | <@caker> | deploy (whole bunch of args) |
| 16:12 | <@caker> | ? |
| 16:13 | <@adamg> | maybe not args but a prompt for each bit of info |
| 16:13 | <@caker> | and a method to query the job queue |
| 16:13 | <@caker> | well, the point would be that it could be automated with a one-liner, instead of expect or something worse |
| 16:13 | <@caker> | but perhaps in interactive mode, yeah |
| 16:14 | <@adamg> | I guess |
| 16:14 | <@adamg> | most important thing is reboot and rsa |
| 16:15 | <@adamg> | oh and maybe view host load |
| 16:23 | <@adamg> | sighup: ping |
| 16:23 | <%sighup> | adamg: sorry... |
| 16:23 | <@adamg> | sighup: ping host12.linode.com |
| 16:23 | <%sighup> | PING host12.linode.com (64.62.190.12) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 16:23 | <%sighup> | 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4451ms |
| 16:23 | <%sighup> | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.362/0.578/1.191/0.309 ms |
| 16:23 | <@adamg> | sighup: ping adamg |
| 16:24 | <@adamg> | it would be nice if sighup could get the host of the user and ping them |
| 16:26 | <Griswald> | adam, I was using nohup wrong, that's why it wasn't working earlier :) |
| 16:26 | <Griswald> | nohup ./script & |
| 16:26 | <Griswald> | was using nohup script & |
| 16:33 | <@adamg> | ok |
| 16:34 | <@caker> | I do that all the time |
| 16:34 | <@caker> | nohup someReallyLongProcess |
| 16:34 | <@caker> | done! |
| 16:34 | <@caker> | wtf? |
| 16:35 | <tjfontaine> | ? |
| 16:42 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 16:42 | <@mikegrb> | nohup++ |
| 16:42 | <@mikegrb> | bot and sighup use nohup :) |
| 16:43 | <@mikegrb> | nohup is the screen of ummm a shell I dunno |
| 16:43 | <@mikegrb> | screen works defferently |
| 16:43 | <@mikegrb> | nohup prevents the shell from sending a signal to the program when you logout |
| 16:43 | <@mikegrb> | screen uses a suid binary that actually does the spiffyness |
| 16:47 | <@caker> | adamg: response from HE: |
| 16:47 | <@caker> | Wiltel (wcg.net) is balancing traffic around. Please give this about 24 |
| 16:47 | <@caker> | hours while they shift traffic and then retest. The routes right now |
| 16:47 | <@caker> | aren't stable enough to trouble shoot this properly. |
| 16:48 | <@adamg> | it has been like this for at least a week |
| 16:48 | <@adamg> | i will wait and see |
| 16:48 | <@adamg> | i hope they sort it out as it is slowing things down |
| 16:50 | <@adamg> | i can understand why the routes arent stable, some idiots keep cutting fibre cables all over the US |
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| 17:01 | <@guinea-pig> | i didn't mean to |
| 17:02 | <@guinea-pig> | hey mike |
| 17:03 | <@guinea-pig> | look at what bot said to me an hour ago. any idea what that means? |
| 17:05 | <@mikegrb> | gp: you were on a quest |
| 17:05 | <@mikegrb> | you talked |
| 17:05 | <@mikegrb> | you fail! |
| 17:05 | <@mikegrb> | there is something broken with quests |
| 17:05 | <@guinea-pig> | oh... i didn't know we had quests already |
| 17:05 | <@guinea-pig> | never saw anything about it |
| 17:05 | <@mikegrb> | it doesn't seem to be announceing them to the channel |
| 17:05 | <@mikegrb> | you can /msg bot quest though |
| 17:06 | <@guinea-pig> | oh |
| 17:06 | <Griswald> | ??? |
| 17:06 | <@mikegrb> | silly me did the same thing this morning in #g7 on slashnet |
| 17:06 | <Griswald> | whats this bot? :P |
| 17:06 | <@mikegrb> | inkblot said I was stupid :) |
| 17:06 | <@guinea-pig> | i'm still only on the right-hand side of team battles :p |
| 17:06 | <@mikegrb> | Griswald: #g7 |
| 17:06 | <@guinea-pig> | you believed him? |
| 17:06 | <inkblot> | mikegrb, no, i said "u suk" |
| 17:06 | <@mikegrb> | well |
| 17:06 | <@mikegrb> | close |
| 17:06 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 17:33 | <@mikegrb> | http://www.nata2.info/humor/flash/switchlinux3.swf |
| 17:33 | <@mikegrb> | apple switch commercial for linux |
| 17:41 | <@mikegrb> | bwahahah |
| 17:42 | | * mikegrb pimps linode.com in #oftc-staff |
| 17:46 | | * Griswald shows off linode.com to Foreverchat.net :P |
| 17:57 | <Artifex> | Dreamix IRC Q/A Session on December 11th |
| 17:57 | <Artifex> | posted by malloc at 10:43 am on 04-12-2003 |
| 17:57 | <Artifex> | The Dreamix Team will be holding a live question and answer session on December 11th from 7:00-8pm (EST), 00:00 GMT in #Dreamix on EFnet. |
| 17:57 | | * Artifex makes a note to go and bitch at them. :-) |
| 17:57 | <tjfontaine> | heh |
| 17:57 | <tjfontaine> | lets drive down to kentucky and beat up lbm and zpimpa |
| 17:58 | <Artifex> | The first half of the session will be moderated, but the second half will be open to free discussion. If you have any doubts regarding the project, the Dreamix Team highly advises you to show up. Please respect the fact that we may not be able to answer all of your questions due to the fact that we must protect certain aspects of the project from public disclosure at this time; however, we will answer as many of your questions as we can in the |
| 17:58 | <Artifex> | The Dreamix Team looks forward to seeing you next Thursday evening. |
| 17:58 | <Artifex> | here's a question... |
| 17:58 | <Artifex> | WTF?! |
| 17:58 | <tjfontaine> | heh |
| 17:59 | <tjfontaine> | boy did they learn everything about irc meetings from me |
| 17:59 | <tjfontaine> | they |
