| --- | Log | opened Tue Dec 02 00:00:44 2003 |
| 00:06 | <EFudd> | hrm. |
| 00:06 | <tjfontaine> | hum |
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| 01:58 | <LokiVidalez> | sighup: linode avail |
| 01:58 | <sighup> | Linode availability -- [Linode 64: 20] [Linode 96: 12] [Linode 128: 0] [Linode 192: 0] [Linode 256: 0] |
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| 02:17 | <Efudd-he> | hrm |
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| 03:08 | <@adamg> | sighup: g7 adamg |
| 03:08 | <sighup> | #G7 stats for adamgent, the sleepy -- Current Level: 37 | Time to next level: 1 days, 11:02:21 | Status: online | Item Total: 353 | Total Time Idled: 10 days, 17:14:50 |
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| 03:10 | <wap> | Good morning. |
| 03:12 | <EFudd> | 'lo |
| 03:12 | <wap> | caker: you're still about? |
| 03:13 | <@caker> | yes |
| 03:14 | <wap> | caker: it would be nice, when you reboot host4, to let people know at least say 12hrs before it happens. It's 9am where I live, and I'm reading an email from you saying "host4 will be rebooted this evening" |
| 03:14 | <wap> | For me it was "last night"... |
| 03:14 | <@caker> | i know and agree |
| 03:15 | <@caker> | 12 hrs is reasonable |
| 03:16 | <wap> | caker: Of course, we'll understand you don't respect such a delay if there's an urgent need... ;) |
| 03:16 | <@caker> | This might be a recurring thing until I get 2.6 sorted |
| 03:17 | <@caker> | so you might want to setup everything to run at boot |
| 03:18 | <wap> | caker: yep ;) I'm not running anything really important so it's not such a big deal. Just thought I'd point it out. |
| 03:18 | <@caker> | I guess I should make it cleared that that's part of the deal w/ host4 ... |
| 03:19 | <@caker> | clearer |
| 03:20 | <wap> | caker: I understand it's part of the deal. It's just kinda frustrating to read emails with "this evening" when it's "last night"... I mean, if you didn't send an email to me, that would have done strictly no difference. |
| 03:21 | <@caker> | gotcha |
| 03:21 | <wap> | caker: I'm not angree ;) My point was just suggesting about the 12hrs thingy ;) |
| 03:23 | <@caker> | maybe next time then :) |
| 03:24 | | * EFudd begins to mirror forever -> mostly |
| 03:24 | <wap> | ;) |
| 03:24 | <@caker> | I wouldn't reboot any of the other hosts without more than 12, preferably 24 -- host4 is somewhat of an exception |
| 03:24 | <wap> | caker: keep this in mind and do your best ;) |
| 03:24 | <@caker> | but regardless -- things like that can wait at least 12 hrs -- i just get impatient :) |
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| 03:24 | <EFudd> | er.. |
| 03:24 | | * EFudd didn't mean to reconnect ! |
| 03:25 | <EFudd> | lesse... gotta get mydns setup on forever, then replications going to mostly.. den i think everything is good to go |
| 03:25 | <EFudd> | btw, gentoo fokkin' sucks for changing the document root between two sync's |
| 03:26 | <EFudd> | need to find out who did that to mail them an Asshat cap. |
| 03:27 | <EFudd> | oh wait, you rebooted host4? |
| 03:27 | <@caker> | Yes |
| 03:27 | | * EFudd ponders if that's what just happened to wasteland dns :-) |
| 03:27 | <EFudd> | or if it was a coincidence. :) |
| 03:27 | <@caker> | This was 7 hrs ago |
| 03:27 | <EFudd> | oic. |
| 03:28 | <EFudd> | I guess frigid (a non-linode uml) just shat itself then |
| 03:29 | <EFudd> | user.jason.lists.linux-kernel 1070353705 |
| 03:29 | <EFudd> | mmmm cyrus imapd+postfix+sieve+spamassassin is good. :-) |
| 03:38 | <sinned> | caker, did you setup linode's network/systems all by yourself? |
| 03:39 | <@caker> | pretty much |
| 03:39 | <sinned> | excellent job |
| 03:39 | <@caker> | thanks :) |
| 03:39 | <sinned> | i am enjoying having a linode uml box a lot |
| 03:39 | <EFudd> | http://www.mysql.com/doc/en/Replication_Implementation.html |
| 03:39 | | * EFudd ponders |
| 03:40 | <sinned> | i'm not ircing from it though |
| 03:40 | <@caker> | heh |
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| 03:41 | <@caker> | so does the 2.4.23 kernel feel snappier at all? |
| 03:42 | <sinned> | Linux shed 2.4.22-linode12-6um #3 Tue Nov 11 13:50:52 EST 2003 i686 unknown |
| 03:42 | <sinned> | is the 2.4.23 considered stable |
| 03:42 | <EFudd> | heh.. doing the initial digest creation for ssl apache on a -96 is time consuming. |
| 03:42 | <@caker> | sinned: yes, a bunch of people have been running it since pre |
| 03:43 | <sinned> | i'll probably try it when i decide to reboot and make sure everything initializes as it should on reboot |
| 03:43 | <sinned> | the list of available kernels in the admin interface made 2.4.23 sound untested |
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| 08:49 | <LokiVidalez> | sighup: linode avail |
| 08:49 | <sighup> | Linode availability -- [Linode 64: 20] [Linode 96: 12] [Linode 128: 0] [Linode 192: 0] [Linode 256: 0] |
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| 09:31 | <adamg> | sighup: g7 adamg |
| 09:31 | <sighup> | #G7 stats for adamgent, the sleepy -- Current Level: 37 | Time to next level: 1 days, 11:31:48 | Status: online | Item Total: 353 | Total Time Idled: 10 days, 20:49:40 |
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| 09:52 | <Quik> | lo caker |
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| 10:50 | <adamg> | caker: ping |
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| 11:16 | <adamg> | chris I am clocking up a nice list of problems for you |
| 11:17 | <LokiVidalez> | adamg, lol |
| 11:17 | <LokiVidalez> | he is not here |
| 11:17 | <adamg> | not that he is here |
| 11:17 | <adamg> | well when he gets here there is a nice long list |
| 11:18 | <LokiVidalez> | heh |
| 11:18 | <adamg> | it seems that fixing one problem has created a lot of other ones |
| 11:18 | <LokiVidalez> | amke sure it is double spaced =P |
| 11:21 | <adamg> | and all I wanted to do it something simple |
| 11:21 | <LokiVidalez> | =P |
| 11:21 | <LokiVidalez> | what is that |
| 11:25 | <adamg> | oh well back to what I should be doing and I will annoy chris when he appears, if he ever does |
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| 11:27 | <LokiVidalez> | O.o |
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| 12:22 | | * jax_work is away: out to lunch |
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| 12:36 | <LokiVidalez> | gege |
| 12:36 | <LokiVidalez> | adamg did you give them to him |
| 12:36 | <@adamg> | who chris |
| 12:36 | <@adamg> | he has not appeared yet |
| 12:36 | <LokiVidalez> | yea |
| 12:36 | <LokiVidalez> | he is there |
| 12:36 | <LokiVidalez> | idle 2 hoursd |
| 12:36 | <LokiVidalez> | O.o |
| 12:36 | <LokiVidalez> | how so |
| 12:36 | <tjfontaine> | adamg: list? |
| 12:37 | <@adamg> | he may be signed in but is not in front of irc |
| 12:37 | <tjfontaine> | or rather efnet like !list |
| 12:37 | <tjfontaine> | whats on your list? |
| 12:37 | <@adamg> | a list of bugs for chris |
| 12:37 | <tjfontaine> | I know... example? |
| 12:41 | <inkblot> | http://zork.net/~sneakums/mail/i-imagine-this-project-will-require-many-dongs <-- comedy GOLD |
| 12:42 | <tjfontaine> | lol |
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| 13:22 | <@mikegrb> | caker: pingity pingity pingie |
| 13:26 | <@adamg> | oh im first in line to spec to chris |
| 13:27 | <LokiVidalez> | hehe |
| 13:28 | <@adamg> | s/spec/speak |
| 13:29 | <LokiVidalez> | hehe |
| 13:33 | <@mikegrb> | hah |
| 13:33 | <@mikegrb> | so there is a lone now |
| 13:33 | <@mikegrb> | er line now |
| 13:33 | <@mikegrb> | I'm second! |
| 13:33 | <@adamg> | yep |
| 13:33 | <LokiVidalez> | LOL |
| 13:33 | <LokiVidalez> | i am last |
| 13:33 | <LokiVidalez> | =P |
| 13:33 | <LokiVidalez> | jk |
| 13:33 | <LokiVidalez> | sighup: linode avail |
| 13:33 | <sighup> | Linode availability -- [Linode 64: 18] [Linode 96: 12] [Linode 128: 0] [Linode 192: 0] [Linode 256: 0] |
| 13:33 | <@adamg> | there going nice and fast |
| 13:34 | <LokiVidalez> | what are? |
| 13:34 | <@adamg> | the linodes |
| 13:34 | <LokiVidalez> | yea |
| 13:34 | <LokiVidalez> | there all on he |
| 13:35 | <@adamg> | and nearly all new linodes will be at he |
| 13:35 | <LokiVidalez> | yea |
| 13:35 | <@adamg> | or at least till the rack fills |
| 13:35 | <LokiVidalez> | then another rack =P |
| 13:35 | <@adamg> | and then chris will probably be moving elseware |
| 13:35 | <LokiVidalez> | why? |
| 13:36 | <@adamg> | his big plan |
| 13:36 | <LokiVidalez> | less laggy? |
| 13:36 | <LokiVidalez> | oh |
| 13:36 | <LokiVidalez> | his own linux cluster |
| 13:36 | <LokiVidalez> | =) |
| 13:36 | <LokiVidalez> | prob xo |
| 13:36 | <@adamg> | probably not |
| 13:36 | <LokiVidalez> | what does he have at xo? |
| 13:37 | <@adamg> | the main linode site server and his stuff from his original hosting company |
| 13:37 | <LokiVidalez> | ah |
| 13:38 | <LokiVidalez> | how long till his rack fills up? |
| 13:38 | <@mikegrb> | 6-7 more hosts? I think |
| 13:38 | <@mikegrb> | I don't remember |
| 13:38 | <@mikegrb> | maybe a bit more then that |
| 13:38 | <@adamg> | I think there are 2 servers there as is, so another 10-13 servers |
| 13:38 | <LokiVidalez> | i hope i get money soon |
| 13:38 | <@adamg> | check the irc logs for the exact amount |
| 13:38 | <LokiVidalez> | i want to get a he linode befopre there all gone =P |
| 13:39 | <@adamg> | there will be a lot more at HE |
| 13:39 | <LokiVidalez> | hgehe |
| 13:39 | <LokiVidalez> | well i am not buying till i can get a linode 128 |
| 13:40 | <@adamg> | or you could get a 96 and upgrade when a 128 comes out |
| 13:40 | <LokiVidalez> | well i dun have $$ now =P |
| 13:40 | <@adamg> | chris has host 13 but is using it to test 2.6 so that will be going to he when he has 2.6 sorted |
| 13:41 | <tjfontaine> | if I said "I haven't seen evil dead 2 yet" what do you think I mean? |
| 13:41 | <@adamg> | i would say the film |
| 13:41 | <tjfontaine> | ya but the wording |
| 13:41 | <tjfontaine> | does the mean, I intend to see it? |
| 13:42 | <@adamg> | no it means you haven't see it yet |
| 13:42 | <@adamg> | there is no intent in it |
| 13:42 | <tjfontaine> | *yet* |
| 13:42 | <tjfontaine> | </high fidelity> |
| 13:42 | <tjfontaine> | have you read/seen High Fidelity? |
| 13:42 | <@adamg> | nope |
| 13:42 | <@adamg> | and nope |
| 13:43 | <tjfontaine> | its a classicly funny novel & movie |
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| 13:43 | <tjfontaine> | I suggest one or the other mediums |
| 14:11 | | * adamg really does need to re-read forum posts before submitting them |
| 14:23 | <@mikegrb> | that is what edit is for |
| 14:23 | | * mikegrb goes off to do something or other |
| 14:23 | <tjfontaine> | liar |
| 14:23 | <tjfontaine> | you're gonna sleep |
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| 14:35 | <@mikegrb> | no! |
| 14:35 | <@mikegrb> | no sleep for me today |
| 14:37 | <tjfontaine> | sure whatever liar |
| 14:41 | <@adamg> | sighup: linode forums |
| 14:41 | <sighup> | adamg: sorry... |
| 14:41 | <@adamg> | sighup: linode avail |
| 14:41 | <sighup> | Linode availability -- [Linode 64: 18] [Linode 96: 12] [Linode 128: 0] [Linode 192: 0] [Linode 256: 0] |
| 14:41 | <@adamg> | sighup: linode forums? |
| 14:41 | <sighup> | adamg: no idea |
| 14:41 | <@adamg> | sighup: status |
| 14:41 | <sighup> | Since Mon Dec 1 19:04:22 2003, there have been 1 modifications and 8 questions. I have been awake for 19 hours, 37 minutes, 32 seconds this session, and currently reference 16 factoids. Addressing is in require mode. |
| 14:42 | <@adamg> | sighup: bad bot |
| 14:42 | <sighup> | adamg: what? |
| 14:42 | <@adamg> | damm bot, it has a worse memory than me |
| 14:43 | <tjfontaine> | his db's got corrupted |
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| 14:43 | <tjfontaine> | he really needs a port from flat file to sql |
| 14:43 | <@adamg> | well mike was going to do that |
| 14:43 | <tjfontaine> | and I was gonna help |
| 14:43 | <tjfontaine> | its about motivation |
| 14:48 | <@mikegrb> | yup |
| 14:48 | <@mikegrb> | it's not flat file per se |
| 14:49 | <@mikegrb> | ANY_DBM via the berkley db lib |
| 14:49 | <@mikegrb> | though I have a perl dbi book now :p |
| 14:49 | <@mikegrb> | oh and vim! :) |
| 14:53 | <@adamg> | i take it the perl dbi book was from chris |
| 15:16 | | * adamg pokes caker |
| 15:24 | <@mikegrb> | adamg: heh yes |
| 15:25 | <@adamg> | I do have a paper copy of that book somewhere |
| 15:29 | <@caker> | hello |
| 15:29 | <tjfontaine> | yo |
| 15:29 | <tjfontaine> | how is you caker? |
| 15:30 | <@caker> | not to shabby |
| 15:30 | <@caker> | yourself? |
| 15:30 | <@mikegrb> | caker! |
| 15:30 | <@adamg> | just the person |
| 15:30 | <@mikegrb> | wait adamg is first |
| 15:30 | <tjfontaine> | I am doing the unthinkable |
| 15:30 | <@caker> | what's up adam? |
| 15:30 | <@adamg> | I have nice long list of problems for you |
| 15:30 | <@caker> | cool |
| 15:30 | <@adamg> | well to start with a good point, when you type reboot at the command prompt, the linode does actually reboot |
| 15:31 | <@caker> | sigh |
| 15:31 | <@adamg> | this has caused some other problems |
| 15:32 | <@adamg> | now when you select reboot in the cp, it reboots the linode and then since it does a full reboot and not a shutdown it then issues an emergency sync to start the linode |
| 15:32 | <@caker> | yup |
| 15:32 | <@adamg> | which is very annoying |
| 15:32 | <@caker> | that'll be fixed in two minutes |
| 15:32 | <@caker> | This is the second time I missed that |
| 15:32 | | * caker slaps caker |
| 15:32 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 15:33 | <tjfontaine> | oh I wanna play |
| 15:33 | <@adamg> | the next problem is that when you reboot via the actual linode it does reflect any changes made in the configuration profile |
| 15:33 | | * tjfontaine slaps mikegrb |
| 15:33 | <@adamg> | it this be design? |
| 15:33 | | * mikegrb kicks tjfontaine >:) |
| 15:33 | <@adamg> | you have to reboot via the cp |
| 15:33 | <@caker> | Yes |
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| 15:34 | <@mikegrb> | reboot in the linode isn't supposed to work, it has been disabled to prevent just these problems |
| 15:34 | <@adamg> | which before was not a problem, but now you can do a proper reboot via the linode it is kinda confusing |
| 15:34 | <@mikegrb> | I think |
| 15:34 | <@adamg> | well it works now! |
| 15:34 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 15:34 | <@mikegrb> | he said sight that is the second time I forgot that |
| 15:35 | | * mikegrb reboots tjfontaine |
| 15:35 | <tjfontaine> | ouch ouch |
| 15:35 | <@adamg> | i didnt know if that was the reboot within linode or the emergency sync problem |
| 15:35 | <@caker> | normally, a reboot inside UML will do just that -- execv's the process again (meaning it doesn't really exit) |
| 15:36 | <@caker> | build #14 is now distributed |
| 15:36 | <@adamg> | ok |
| 15:36 | <@adamg> | so what does build#14 do |
| 15:36 | <@caker> | shuts down on reboot |
| 15:36 | <@adamg> | oh ok |
| 15:37 | <@adamg> | there is one final bug type thing |
| 15:37 | <@caker> | ok |
| 15:37 | <@adamg> | in the configuration profile, if you specify a boot device ie ubdg which is not mapped to a drive and try to boot, the job sheet says that it was boot sucessfully when it isnt |
| 15:38 | <LokiVidalez> | caker is it hard to partion a linode hd? |
| 15:38 | <LokiVidalez> | or is it in the mamager? |
| 15:38 | <@caker> | LokiVidalez: same as partitioning a regular hd |
| 15:38 | <LokiVidalez> | *manager? |
| 15:38 | <@caker> | adamg: I need to add more checks to the boot routine |
| 15:38 | <@adamg> | yep |
| 15:39 | <@adamg> | well that has me done with moaning for today |
| 15:39 | <@caker> | adamg: it checks a bunch of stuff, but assumes once it fires off the uml process it was successful |
| 15:39 | <LokiVidalez> | hehe |
| 15:39 | <@adamg> | also have you increased the capacity of host12 |
| 15:39 | <LokiVidalez> | caker: is there a thingy in the linode manager to do it? |
| 15:39 | <@caker> | adamg: yeah a bit |
| 15:39 | <@adamg> | ok |
| 15:40 | <@caker> | LokiVidalez: Inside the manager, you create entire disk images, which are usually not partitioned -- they use the entire drive |
| 15:40 | <@adamg> | well thats me done for now, you turn mike |
| 15:40 | <@caker> | LokiVidalez: but, you can create a 'raw' disk image, and actually partition it |
| 15:40 | <@mikegrb> | okay me next! |
| 15:40 | <@caker> | LokiVidalez: using fdisk or whatever |
| 15:40 | <LokiVidalez> | i mean so you can get / and swap |
| 15:40 | <LokiVidalez> | oh okay |
| 15:41 | <@mikegrb> | caker: http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/346175/2003-11-29/2003-12-05/0 <- post to bugtraq with sample asm code and instructions... asm exploits do_brk() kernel bug to escalate privlidges and reboot the machine |
| 15:41 | <@mikegrb> | if system is not vulnerable the process exits cleanly |
| 15:42 | <@mikegrb> | didn't want to try it on my linode |
| 15:42 | <@mikegrb> | but if you have a test linode laying around... :) |
| 15:42 | <@caker> | I will :) |
| 15:42 | <@caker> | thnx |
| 15:42 | <@mikegrb> | indeed |
| 15:42 | <@mikegrb> | I thought of you when I saw the post :p |
| 15:42 | <@mikegrb> | I'm very curious to here of the results |
| 15:42 | <Quik> | we must be able to add IPs without rebooting! ;) |
| 15:42 | <@mikegrb> | Quik++ |
| 15:42 | <Quik> | me+^10 |
| 15:44 | <@adamg> | right then back to work |
| 15:46 | <@adamg> | has anyone got a link to details of the new kenerl exploit apart from the above |
| 15:46 | <@mikegrb> | there was another post the day before |
| 15:46 | <@mikegrb> | one sec |
| 15:46 | <@mikegrb> | oh and another today |
| 15:47 | <tjfontaine> | hear the result |
| 15:47 | <Julia> | woot! |
| 15:47 | <tjfontaine> | hi julia |
| 15:47 | | * Julia does a happy dance. |
| 15:47 | <Julia> | hi tj |
| 15:47 | | * tjfontaine dances with julia |
| 15:48 | <@mikegrb> | http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/346180 |
| 15:48 | <@mikegrb> | that one has lots of stuff |
| 15:48 | <@mikegrb> | I haven't read it yet |
| 15:48 | <@adamg> | thanks |
| 15:48 | <@mikegrb> | it's a busy list |
| 15:48 | <@adamg> | i bet |
| 15:48 | <@caker> | hmm, well that did something bad |
| 15:48 | <tjfontaine> | like a reboot? |
| 15:48 | <@mikegrb> | caker: ? |
| 15:48 | <@mikegrb> | there was a note on nasm version used |
| 15:49 | <@caker> | it crashed the uml process at least -- I didn't get a chance to look at the maps |
| 15:49 | <@mikegrb> | in a reply |
| 15:49 | <@mikegrb> | oh |
| 15:49 | <@mikegrb> | so vuln then |
| 15:49 | <@caker> | I would think so at first, yes |
| 15:49 | <@mikegrb> | computer was too fast ;) |
| 15:49 | <@caker> | let me try with 2.4.23 |
| 15:50 | <@mikegrb> | adamg: that's it |
| 15:50 | | * adamg downloads the 2676 backlog of kernel mails list posts |
| 15:50 | <@mikegrb> | adamg: there were a few other posts but they were mainly just the security advisorys |
| 15:50 | <@mikegrb> | no details in them |
| 15:51 | <@caker> | 2.4.23 looks good |
| 15:51 | <@adamg> | i will see what the kernel list has to say |
| 15:51 | <@caker> | upgrade now :) |
| 15:52 | <@caker> | Anyone notice if 2.4.23 kernel is a little faster? |
| 15:52 | <LokiVidalez> | hehe caker |
| 15:52 | <Quik> | how's 2.6 on host4 going? |
| 15:53 | <@adamg> | I take it lastest 2.4 will be fine |
| 15:53 | <@caker> | Quik: I think there's a race or locking issue w/ the skas patch for 2.6 that someone ported |
| 15:53 | <@caker> | because all my tests locally work fine -- performace is pretty damn good |
| 15:53 | <@adamg> | chris on the support page under comunity resources can you add the IRC chan details |
| 15:53 | <Quik> | so it's back on 2.4? |
| 15:54 | <@caker> | Quik: and when I get it up on host4, after a few UMLs boot, it starts to oops |
| 15:54 | <@caker> | so, yeah |
| 15:54 | <Quik> | oky, shame |
| 15:54 | <@caker> | i hear ya |
| 15:56 | | * mikegrb heads home from work |
| 15:56 | <tjfontaine> | safe journies |
| 15:56 | <LokiVidalez> | mike your at work O.o |
| 15:56 | <@adamg> | enjoy |
| 15:57 | <LokiVidalez> | have fun |
| 15:57 | <LokiVidalez> | =P |
| 15:57 | <tjfontaine> | have a pheasant plucking day |
| 17:15 | <@caker> | adamg: host's the responsiveness of host12 been the past day or two? |
| 17:17 | <LokiVidalez> | caker: what is the next noc you going to? |
| 17:17 | <@caker> | hmm? |
| 17:18 | <LokiVidalez> | after he |
| 17:18 | <@caker> | probably XO on the east coast |
| 17:18 | <@adamg> | caker: not really shore not been doing much. SSH does seem rather slow |
| 17:18 | <LokiVidalez> | where yoru site server is? |
| 17:19 | <LokiVidalez> | where your\ site server is? |
| 17:19 | <@adamg> | and I thought you where going for a colo-neutral site |
| 17:19 | <LokiVidalez> | * |
| 17:19 | <@caker> | adamg: loadavg has been less than 1 for the past day or two |
| 17:19 | <@caker> | it all depends |
| 17:19 | <LokiVidalez> | yea |
| 17:19 | <LokiVidalez> | good co-los are hard to find |
| 17:19 | <LokiVidalez> | with good speeds |
| 17:19 | <@adamg> | the load yesterday or the day before was showing medium |
| 17:19 | <@caker> | i already have some rack space at XO |
| 17:19 | <LokiVidalez> | yea |
| 17:20 | <LokiVidalez> | adamg told me that you wanted to have a large linuxcluster |
| 17:20 | <LokiVidalez> | at differnt nocs |
| 17:20 | <@caker> | adamg: consistently? -- mrtg shows below 1 except for a few occasional spikes (which probably means people deploying) |
| 17:20 | <@caker> | correct |
| 17:20 | <LokiVidalez> | your in TN right? |
| 17:20 | <@adamg> | I dont know, it was on medium for at least 5 - 10 minutes |
| 17:20 | <@caker> | yes |
| 17:20 | <LokiVidalez> | is there any NOC's there? |
| 17:21 | <@caker> | none that I want to deal with |
| 17:21 | <LokiVidalez> | hehe |
| 17:22 | <@caker> | plus, i'm likely going to relocate myself back to NJ |
| 17:22 | <@caker> | sometime next year |
| 17:22 | <LokiVidalez> | Oh |
| 17:22 | <LokiVidalez> | so i can visit xo=P |
| 17:22 | <LokiVidalez> | *you can |
| 17:22 | <LokiVidalez> | lol |
| 17:22 | <LokiVidalez> | what i mean |
| 17:22 | <@adamg> | chris I will let you know over the weekend as I have deployed a new distro that needs rebuilding so we will see |
| 17:22 | <LokiVidalez> | is if you move there |
| 17:22 | <LokiVidalez> | you can visit xo |
| 17:23 | <shakr> | becausing visiting d/c's it the funnest thing evar~~ |
| 17:23 | <@adamg> | over the next month, I will probably be redeploying 4-5 times so I will see what things are like, but with new people coming onto the server it will probably get loaded again |
| 17:24 | <@adamg> | visiting d/c's do have some advantages |
| 17:24 | <@caker> | big time |
| 17:24 | <@adamg> | make sure some technicians do not unplug a server |
| 17:24 | <@caker> | heh |
| 17:25 | <LokiVidalez> | hehe |
| 17:25 | <shakr> | i only ever visit when my colo box has a spaz :X its not a fun experience |
| 17:25 | <LokiVidalez> | well there are no colo's here with the speed i would want |
| 17:25 | <LokiVidalez> | if i were to colo |
| 17:25 | <@adamg> | you also get to make a lot of useful aquaintance's |
| 17:28 | <shakr> | i've run into a few interested colo customers but for the most part the techs gave a big MEH about their jobs |
| 17:28 | <shakr> | interesting customers, rather |
| 17:28 | <LokiVidalez> | meh? |
| 17:29 | <shakr> | one guy had about 10 racks, all modified to fit bunches of microatx desktop cases vertically |
| 17:30 | <shakr> | that's really the way to do it, rather than wasiting money on 1u's, since you can't actually fill the he.net racks without purchasing additional amps |
| 17:30 | <shakr> | MEH, as in "it only looks like a cool job" |
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| 17:42 | <Quik> | where is Ashen :< |
| 17:42 | <tjfontaine> | smoken mayhaps? |
| 17:43 | <Quik> | :o |
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| 18:30 | <@mikegrb> | EFudd: you around? |
| 18:36 | <@adamg> | chris is internal bandwidth billed? |
| 18:37 | <@adamg> | within the same dc |
| 18:37 | <tjfontaine> | last I heard no |
| 18:37 | <tjfontaine> | which is why I irssi from my node :-) |
| 18:37 | <@caker> | It's filtered out in my ebtable rules, but some of it is still counted until I can fix the stats gathering script |
| 18:38 | <@caker> | that's all taken into consideration if someone does go over, so it shouldn't affect anybody |
| 18:38 | <@adamg> | from what I understood from past converstations was that as long it didnt go past your switch you didnt really mind |
| 18:38 | <@caker> | That's how it's setup, yes .. the hard part is done |
| 18:39 | <@adamg> | also if I had 2 linodes, one of them with 2 IP addresses could an IP address be moved from one linode to another if they where both in the same DC |
| 18:39 | <@caker> | you mean without my intervention? |
| 18:40 | <@adamg> | with or without |
| 18:40 | <@caker> | atm not without me switching it -- but in the future, I'd like to support floating IPs, so people can have redundancy and load balancing |
| 18:40 | <@caker> | High Availability Linodes |
| 18:40 | <tjfontaine> | oh fun |
| 18:40 | <tjfontaine> | hehe |
| 18:41 | <@mikegrb> | caker++ (ha linode)++ |
| 18:41 | <@adamg> | all I am looking at is at somepoint seperating mysql and apache with as little down time as possible and moving an IP is the easiest way |
| 18:41 | <@caker> | You could setup a private IP, and tunnel between the nodes, and just move the private IP .. |
| 18:41 | | * caker takes a guess |
| 18:42 | <tjfontaine> | wee go ipsec! |
| 18:42 | <@adamg> | that is one way |
| 18:43 | <@adamg> | but I would probably move apache as it is easier than moving mysql so moving the IP would be required |
| 18:43 | <@adamg> | so are there plans to have the ability to have more than one linode under a single account? |
| 18:44 | <@caker> | it would be linked some how, yeah |
| 18:44 | <@adamg> | you could have some fun with that |
| 18:44 | <@adamg> | pooled bw, hd usage etc |
| 18:44 | <tjfontaine> | only if they were on the same host for hd |
| 18:45 | <@adamg> | possibly |
| 18:45 | <tjfontaine> | else would mean reserving the leftover space across hosts |
| 18:45 | <@mikegrb> | tjfontaine: did you know the xpad driver was in 2.6 |
| 18:45 | <tjfontaine> | mikegrb: yessir |
| 18:45 | <@mikegrb> | oh |
| 18:46 | <@mikegrb> | I didn't realize it made it in |
| 18:46 | <tjfontaine> | mikegrb: it was there long before kernel hacking was going on actually |
| 18:46 | <@mikegrb> | oh okay |
| 18:46 | <tjfontaine> | its not our driver |
| 18:46 | <@mikegrb> | interesting |
| 18:46 | <tjfontaine> | yup |
| 18:46 | <@mikegrb> | I'll have to look at it |
| 18:46 | <tjfontaine> | I believe its joydev only |
| 18:46 | <@mikegrb> | yes |
| 18:46 | <@adamg> | that is true, but pooled bandwidth would be good and the ability to transfer HD images between different linodes and sharing config profiles etc |
| 18:46 | <tjfontaine> | right |
| 18:47 | <tjfontaine> | mikegrb: you hear that fatx is in SuSE? |
| 18:47 | <shakr> | at that point, why not set up your own uml system on your own real box |
| 18:47 | <@mikegrb> | tjfontaine: yessir |
| 18:47 | <@adamg> | why do it yourself when you can get someone else to do it |
| 18:48 | <@mikegrb> | I think that was mentioned at the meeting I missed on monday |
| 18:48 | <@mikegrb> | I read the logs |
| 18:48 | <shakr> | cost. |
| 18:48 | <tjfontaine> | mikegrb: yes |
| 18:48 | <tjfontaine> | shakr: how much is your time worth though? |
| 18:48 | <@adamg> | in the end I know feck all about UML, chris is an expert at it. He already has servers at to DCs and probably more within the next year |
| 18:49 | <@adamg> | s/to/two |
| 18:49 | <shakr> | well, if i were to do something like that it'd be for the learning experience, so personal time used is irrelevant |
| 18:49 | <@adamg> | it would probably cost me more to get rackspace, bandwidth, reboot switches etc than it would to pay someone else |
| 18:50 | <@adamg> | and if I was to do it, it would be for business and time is money in the end. |
| 18:50 | <shakr> | for comparison, cheapass (celeron, 256mb, 40gb, 1000mb/mo) colo at theplanet is only $60 |
| 18:50 | <tjfontaine> | shakr: it depends, if there are other things that are higher priorities that will be earning you money and spending time learning the inner beauty of uml |
| 18:50 | <tjfontaine> | will detract from that money |
| 18:50 | <tjfontaine> | how much is your time worth? |
| 18:51 | <shakr> | well if cost (monetary or time) wasn't an issue, sure i'd pay someone else to do it |
| 18:51 | <@mikegrb> | shakr: are you serious? linode still has a lot of value added features though |
| 18:51 | <@adamg> | that is true and the plant dedi's are cheap but as linode grows chris can get bandwidth cheaper etc it is all down to personal choice |
| 18:52 | <shakr> | i'm not knocking linode, its an awesome service, but when you start needing more than a linode96, and you arent a *serious* user, real colo becomes attractively priced |
| 18:53 | <@adamg> | but in business it is all about cost effectivness, to me it is more cost effective to get someone else to manage the hardware and network and for me to manage the business and the customers |
| 18:53 | <@adamg> | at the momment chris's max is a 256, that may always change |
| 18:54 | <tjfontaine> | whats also attractive is me getting to pick my distro compared to other options where I would have to deploy uml to then boot the distro I wanted |
| 18:55 | <shakr> | i'd personally rather have more control if i were running a real business |
| 18:55 | <@adamg> | for all I know I could turn round to chris and say here is a server place it into your racks, install UML on to it and make sure I am the only one who can use it and I will pay you a colo fee and for bandwidth, and all I have is 10 mins down time tranfering the UML disk images to a new box, rather than rebuilding waiting for DNS to change etc |
| 18:55 | <@adamg> | BTW I am running a real business |
| 18:55 | <@adamg> | at the momment not on linode but my new project will be |
| 18:56 | <@mikegrb> | shit |
| 18:56 | <shakr> | i use my linode as part of a business too (well it does backup ldap, dns, and mx) for friends who have web accounts on a colo'd box |
| 18:56 | <@mikegrb> | usb on my laptop works in 2.6 |
| 18:56 | <@mikegrb> | I've had usb on my laptop disabled since I bought it |
| 18:56 | <tjfontaine> | heh |
| 18:57 | <@mikegrb> | tjfontaine: need usb-storage and sg for memory card goodness, right? |
| 18:57 | <tjfontaine> | sure |
| 18:57 | <shakr> | adamg: if you were already running your own rack of stuff, adding another box wouldn't be difficult either |
| 18:58 | | * tjfontaine imagines the startup costs |
| 18:58 | <@adamg> | i dont run my own boxes there is no need |
| 18:58 | <@adamg> | well not colo anyway |
| 18:59 | <@adamg> | i highly object having to pay to have a box re-imaged or the time to re-install an OS when I can do it on linode within 30 seconds |
| 18:59 | <@adamg> | or pay a $25 set-up fee on an IP address |
| 18:59 | <tjfontaine> | well some would say: an experienced linux user doesnt' need to redeploy |
| 19:00 | <shakr> | i think its more about scale, if you had a business which did require a rack of stuff, you could set up 'host spare' real machines and have them network boot and reimage themselvers from a beefy server |
| 19:00 | <@adamg> | that is true by the option is always nice |
| 19:00 | <@caker> | that's one of the benefits of Linode though -- experimentation |
| 19:00 | <shakr> | 'hot spare' rather |
| 19:00 | <@caker> | in some ways UML/Linode is better than colo, others not |
| 19:00 | <tjfontaine> | no doubt |
| 19:01 | <@adamg> | under UML I can have a 'box' for each project and upgrade as needed it provides added security at very little cost |
| 19:02 | <shakr> | yeah uml is great, but do you really need that 'box' to be in a datacenter if you are just experimenting |
| 19:02 | <@caker> | if you only have a dialup, yes |
| 19:02 | <@adamg> | for the beginings of a project yes |
| 19:02 | <tjfontaine> | and if yuo've never deployed uml before |
| 19:03 | <@mikegrb> | so I smart media card for a digital camery probably uses fat? |
| 19:03 | <@mikegrb> | s/I/a/ |
| 19:03 | <tjfontaine> | vfat |
| 19:03 | <@mikegrb> | thanks |
| 19:03 | <@adamg> | i can and do devlop on a local box but when a project is first starting why get a dedicated or colo box, it has to prove it can make money before you want to start spending loads of it |
| 19:03 | <@mikegrb> | tjfontaine++ |
| 19:03 | | * tjfontaine blushes |
| 19:04 | <shakr> | i just personally find more value in the shared cost of the linode system, it gets me exactly what i need - a system capable of running backup services which i have full control over and at a very competitive cost |
| 19:04 | <@adamg> | at the momment may current project invovles the co-operation of at least 10 other companies which was not easy to get. I can not run the inital site on a shared enviroment as I dont get the security that I need |
| 19:04 | <@caker> | Saying anything more than a $30/mo and you're in colo-prices is not accurate |
| 19:05 | <@caker> | But, that's how things work in this industry -- Linode filled a void, and prices in colo will come down eventually |
| 19:05 | <shakr> | i've seen local colo around 40, and i mentioned earlier that tp has dedicated boxes starting at 50 |
| 19:05 | <@caker> | sssh! |
| 19:06 | <@caker> | :) |
| 19:06 | <tjfontaine> | but I don't get the possibility to burst! :-) |
| 19:06 | <@adamg> | but you are still relaint on other people for cheap colo and dedi |
| 19:06 | <tjfontaine> | I've tried a few other colo's and been disappointed with service... so what I get here is perfect |
| 19:07 | <tjfontaine> | linode gets tatooed on my coporate chest right after I can tatoo walmart for buying gas/electric/water from them |
| 19:07 | <@adamg> | yes in the long term getting a rack in a DC and getting in a feed, switches, firealls, remote reboot and console etc is probably going to be cheaper but then I have to look after everything |
| 19:08 | <shakr> | well they are still viable options, cheap local colo especially if you are in the situation where you need to tinker but also need to have others access your box over a fast pipe |
| 19:08 | <@adamg> | but most cheap colos do not have a fast pipe |
| 19:08 | <shakr> | oO how fast is fast? |
| 19:08 | <tjfontaine> | never fast enough |
| 19:08 | <@adamg> | or they hard limit you to a 512k connection |
| 19:09 | | * tjfontaine remembers pining over a 56k |
| 19:09 | <tjfontaine> | or 14.4 for that matter |
| 19:09 | <@adamg> | i remember 3600 and bbs |
| 19:09 | <tjfontaine> | now I say, only a t1? |
| 19:09 | <@caker> | try 300 baud mighty mo C64 cartridge modem |
| 19:09 | <tjfontaine> | well ya we had that but I was only 4 or 5 |
| 19:10 | <@mikegrb> | 2400 was my first |
| 19:10 | <@caker> | you coudld read faster than it came over |
| 19:10 | <tjfontaine> | so I don't remember the ascii pr0n my dad dl'd |
| 19:10 | <tjfontaine> | 2400 was my first as well |
| 19:10 | <@adamg> | oh the fun |
| 19:10 | <shakr> | what sort of projects require the need to tinker on a remote box yet have it be burstable to 100mb? |
| 19:10 | <@adamg> | oh well back to bachmann diagrams |
| 19:10 | <tjfontaine> | my dad and I were reminiscing over q-link and geos etc |
| 19:10 | <@caker> | geos wow |
| 19:10 | <tjfontaine> | heh you hadn't heard that in a while eh? |
| 19:11 | <@caker> | that rocks |
| 19:11 | <@caker> | gone from a C-64 to an L-64 :) |
| 19:11 | <@adamg> | a lot I wouldnt want less than a 100mb connection to a colo or dedi box, otherwise it can not meet the demands that may be nessecary |
| 19:11 | <tjfontaine> | there was actually a recent release of a geos like deal |
| 19:12 | <@mikegrb> | tjfontaine++ |
| 19:12 | <@mikegrb> | I got it up |
| 19:12 | <@mikegrb> | :) |
| 19:12 | <tjfontaine> | groovy :-) |
| 19:12 | <@mikegrb> | 2.6++ |
| 19:12 | <tjfontaine> | mikegrb: next supermount+hotplug |
| 19:12 | <@mikegrb> | heh I guess so |
| 19:12 | <tjfontaine> | its nifty as well |
| 19:13 | <@caker> | what is "cooks my emergency bacon" a reference to? |
| 19:13 | <@mikegrb> | yes |
| 19:13 | <@mikegrb> | linode |
| 19:13 | | * tjfontaine plays pipes screensaver with paper clips |
| 19:21 | <@adamg> | the people who came up with codasyl databases should be shoot |
| 19:21 | <@adamg> | s/shoot/shot |
| 19:24 | | * adamg wonders if he should fill in a support ticket, just so he has one |
| 19:24 | <tjfontaine> | support for what? |
| 19:25 | <@adamg> | linode |
| 19:25 | <@mikegrb> | is that the sql like database library type thing for programmers to use? |
| 19:25 | <@adamg> | ? |
| 19:25 | <@adamg> | what codasyl? |
| 19:26 | <@mikegrb> | yes |
| 19:26 | <@adamg> | codasyl is a legacy database pre relational, it's heavy use is mainly down to the US gov't becuase they insisted that all there systems where based on it |
| 19:26 | <@mikegrb> | ahh |
| 19:26 | <inkblot> | sighup, just use screen! |
| 19:26 | <sighup> | inkblot: excuse me? |
| 19:26 | <inkblot> | :< |
| 19:26 | <@mikegrb> | I remember something like what I mentioned being talked about on slashdot |
| 19:26 | <@mikegrb> | have no clue the name though |
| 19:26 | <tjfontaine> | inkblot: wass wrong? |
| 19:27 | <@mikegrb> | inkblot: database got borked |
| 19:27 | <inkblot> | gar |
| 19:27 | <@mikegrb> | I dunno what happened tj discovered it |
| 19:27 | <tjfontaine> | and screen wouldnt help non-ascii chars killin it |
| 19:28 | <inkblot> | <inkblot> just use ports! |
| 19:28 | <inkblot> | <@Dumont> Ports is great! Ports gives me a blowjob every morning to wake me up! Ports cooks my emergency bacon! Thank you, |
| 19:28 | <inkblot> | inkblot, for telling me about ports! I'm all pr0n0 for ports!!!!! |
| 19:28 | <inkblot> | ^-- emergency bacon |
| 19:29 | <@adamg> | at the time codasyl was thought to be the best but it wasnt that good after all 1000's of systems still run on in or have data in it, a lot of leagacy data is in codasyl databases which people are having lots of trouble getting the data out as no one can remember the business rules for the databases. At one point the US gov't was paying some one $1000 a day for 6 mnths to extract data from a codasyl database all becuase they lost t |
| 19:30 | <inkblot> | "becuase they lost t" |
| 19:30 | <@adamg> | did it not all come out? |
| 19:30 | <tjfontaine> | nope |
| 19:30 | <inkblot> | 512 char limit |
| 19:30 | <@adamg> | all becuase they lost the warehouse full of business rules |
| 19:31 | -!- | riccy [r00t@80.102.82.204] has joined #linode |
| 19:32 | <@adamg> | business rules for a smallish codasyll database would cover about 25 acres once printed |
| 19:32 | <@adamg> | hi riccy |
| 19:32 | <@adamg> | smallish is about 1000000 records |
| 19:33 | | * adamg thinks he has talked to much |
| 19:33 | <tjfontaine> | heh |
| 19:34 | <tjfontaine> | that sounds about the efficiency I would expect from my gov't |
| 19:34 | <@adamg> | it is not only the US gov't loads of companies are in the same place |
| 19:34 | <tjfontaine> | so lets fill the gap |
| 19:34 | <tjfontaine> | :-) |
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| 19:35 | <@adamg> | there is a lot of money in writing systems to connect codasyll, hierarchical and relational databases |
| 19:35 | <coleslaw> | question => should I be able to log into my linode via the IP? |
| 19:35 | <@adamg> | yes |
| 19:35 | <tjfontaine> | mo def |
| 19:35 | <@adamg> | if you mean via ssh |
| 19:35 | <coleslaw> | which is what I mean |
| 19:35 | <inkblot> | that presumes a lot of things |
| 19:36 | <inkblot> | 1) is it actually running when you try? |
| 19:36 | <@adamg> | assuming you have only 1 IP that caker assigned |
| 19:36 | <coleslaw> | yup, it's running |
| 19:36 | <inkblot> | 2) do you have sshd installed and running? |
| 19:36 | <inkblot> | 3) can you ping your linode? |
| 19:36 | <coleslaw> | I dunno :P |
| 19:36 | <@adamg> | we need to get sighup to ping and tracert |
| 19:37 | <tjfontaine> | shouldn't be too hard |
| 19:37 | <tjfontaine> | we could even have it nmap for ops |
| 19:37 | <@adamg> | it comes with the modules mike just couldnt get it to work |
| 19:37 | <tjfontaine> | I'm sure if he tried now it may be different |
| 19:38 | <@adamg> | nmap as in the open source network mapper |
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