| --- | Log | opened Sun Nov 30 00:00:16 2003 |
| 03:44 | <wap> | Good morning. |
| 04:03 | <@mikegrb> | morning wap |
| 04:04 | <wap> | howdi :) |
| 04:04 | <@mikegrb> | sighup: linode forums |
| 04:04 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 04:04 | <@mikegrb> | thinking |
| 04:05 | <@mikegrb> | sighup: linode avail |
| 04:05 | <@mikegrb> | sighup: g7 mikegrb |
| 04:05 | <sighup> | mikegrb: General Discussion: How to Ask Smart Questions ; Feature Request/Bug Report: Communication Between ... ; Feature Request/Bug Report: Problems on Host 12? ; General Discussion: Getting disconnected ; General Discussion: Qmail + Courrier-IMAP ... |
| 04:05 | <sighup> | #G7 stats for mikegrb, the Ruler of All -- Current Level: 39 | Time to next level: 1 days, 04:54:24 | Status: online | Item Total: 401 | Total Time Idled: 14 days, 02:04:00 |
| 04:05 | <sighup> | Linode availability -- [Linode 64: 10] [Linode 96: 7] [Linode 128: 1] [Linode 192: 0] [Linode 256: 0] |
| 04:06 | <wap> | mikegrb: what's "laughs" ranking number 1 in topten karma? |
| 04:07 | <@mikegrb> | when people say heh etc |
| 04:07 | <@mikegrb> | sighup: karma laughs |
| 04:07 | <sighup> | laughs has karma of 2777 |
| 04:07 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 04:07 | <wap> | I see ;) |
| 04:07 | <@mikegrb> | sighup: karma laughs |
| 04:07 | <sighup> | laughs has karma of 2778 |
| 04:07 | <@mikegrb> | it is a crude hack |
| 04:07 | <@mikegrb> | the slaughs comes from shahrayer's nick |
| 04:08 | <@mikegrb> | because it is a crude hack heh |
| 04:08 | <wap> | ;) |
| 04:09 | <inkblot> | roffle |
| 04:09 | <@mikegrb> | howdy inkblot |
| 04:09 | <@mikegrb> | inkblot: go to sleep! |
| 04:09 | <inkblot> | I know. |
| 04:09 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 04:09 | <inkblot> | i'm not even in the same time zone as my irc client |
| 04:09 | <@mikegrb> | oh |
| 04:09 | <@mikegrb> | what time zone are you in? |
| 04:09 | <inkblot> | it's 0409 here |
| 04:09 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 04:10 | <inkblot> | EST |
| 04:10 | <@mikegrb> | here too |
| 04:10 | <@mikegrb> | pot calling the kettle black |
| 04:10 | <inkblot> | har! |
| 04:10 | <inkblot> | gnite |
| 04:11 | <@mikegrb> | 'nite |
| 04:11 | <wap> | night |
| 04:15 | <Efudd> | hmm |
| 04:31 | | * mikegrb heads of to bed |
| 04:33 | <wap> | mikegrb: Sweet dreams |
| 04:34 | <@mikegrb> | heh thanks |
| 05:04 | <Efudd> | hrm |
| 06:52 | <Quik> | anyone on host2 here? |
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| 10:37 | <@adamgent> | afternoon all |
| 10:38 | <@adamgent> | sighup: linode avail |
| 10:38 | <sighup> | Linode availability -- [Linode 64: 10] [Linode 96: 7] [Linode 128: 1] [Linode 192: 0] [Linode 256: 0] |
| 10:43 | <@adamgent> | afk |
| 12:15 | <@adamgent> | sighup: linode forums |
| 12:15 | <sighup> | adamgent: Feature Request/Bug Report: Communication Between ... ; Feature Request/Bug Report: Host 2 Problems ; General Discussion: How to Ask Smart Questions ; Feature Request/Bug Report: Problems on Host 12? ; General Discussion: Getting disconnected |
| 12:28 | | * adamgent returns |
| 13:18 | <@adamgent> | chris are you about? |
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| 16:05 | -!- | Quik` [~Quik@host81-128-175-190.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #linode |
| 16:05 | <Quik`> | for some reason i can't communicate with my linode :// |
| 16:06 | <Quik`> | caker |
| 16:06 | <Quik`> | (!) |
| 16:06 | <@caker> | host2? |
| 16:06 | <Quik`> | yes |
| 16:06 | <@caker> | one sec |
| 16:07 | <Quik`> | Your Linode is currently |
| 16:07 | <Quik`> | Running |
| 16:10 | <Quik`> | any idea? |
| 16:11 | <@caker> | how about now? |
| 16:11 | <Quik`> | has it just been rebooted? |
| 16:12 | <@caker> | no |
| 16:12 | <Quik`> | i am unable to ping it still |
| 16:12 | <Quik`> | and no bnc's have come back online |
| 16:12 | <@caker> | username or ip? |
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| 16:14 | <Quik`> | pm'ed you |
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| 18:27 | <galexand> | ah hah! :) |
| 18:28 | <galexand> | i'm just here to see if kvetching can reduce my waittime for activation of my linode128 :) |
| 18:32 | <@mikegrb> | caker: pingity pingity ping |
| 19:01 | <@adamgent> | sighup: linode avail |
| 19:01 | <sighup> | Linode availability -- [Linode 64: 4] [Linode 96: 7] [Linode 128: 1] [Linode 192: 0] [Linode 256: 0] |
| 19:01 | <@adamgent> | sighup: linode forums |
| 19:01 | <sighup> | adamgent: Feature Request/Bug Report: Host 2 Problems ; Sales Questions and Answers: Static IPs vs. DHCP, ... ; General Discussion: Getting disconnected ; Feature Request/Bug Report: Communication Between ... ; General Discussion: How to Ask Smart Questions |
| 19:02 | <@caker> | galexand: hello! -- you're all set |
| 19:03 | <@adamgent> | chris host12 seems to of been getting slower and slower over the past few days |
| 19:03 | <@caker> | adam, what kind of slowness does it feel like -- network or disk bound |
| 19:04 | <@mikegrb> | chris and host 10 seems to have been fine these last few days ;) |
| 19:04 | <@adamgent> | network |
| 19:04 | <@caker> | thanks mike :) |
| 19:04 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 19:04 | <@mikegrb> | chris is only noticed when things go bad |
| 19:04 | | * mikegrb must make sure above line is false |
| 19:04 | <@adamgent> | not alawys |
| 19:05 | <@adamgent> | chris is just not about when I have questions and when he is I have forgotten by then |
| 19:05 | <@caker> | Adam, do you think this is a routing issue between you and the node? I've noticed no network issues, and have remained connected to host12 for weeks |
| 19:06 | <@adamgent> | i dont think so, I have not been disconnected from my linode for the past few days but have seen noticable delays in ssh, serveral lines arriving at the same time after a delay, it may be done to io |
| 19:07 | <@caker> | hmm.. people are still "moving in" on that host, so perhaps it's deployments |
| 19:07 | <@adamgent> | possibly |
| 19:07 | <@caker> | otherwise, host12 has had a very low loadavg |
| 19:08 | <@adamgent> | i have always noticed that the host usage is low as it is one of the first things I check |
| 19:08 | <@adamgent> | I can live with it for now |
| 19:09 | <@adamgent> | i am probbling adding to the IO load as all I am doing is compiling and installing |
| 19:10 | <@caker> | 'normal' use doesn't really affect the entire host -- I've only had problems with Linodes swapstorming .. |
| 19:11 | <@adamgent> | i have been watching my swap usage and it does not seem very high, it has increased in the last 12 hours as both apache and mysql are now running but I have not optimised the conf files yet |
| 19:11 | <@adamgent> | I will just wait and see |
| 19:13 | <galexand> | chris, yo!! thanks |
| 19:13 | <@caker> | galexand: hey, no problem -- thank you :) |
| 19:14 | <@adamgent> | chris have you heard of anyone been able to break out of a uml env and access the host? |
| 19:14 | -!- | adamgent is now known as adamg |
| 19:14 | <@caker> | not since skas mode, no |
| 19:15 | <@mikegrb> | is it possible to inject stuff into the kernel ring buffer when the kernel first loads? |
| 19:15 | <@mikegrb> | like if you want to add stuff at the beggining with info about stuff just before the kernel loads |
| 19:16 | <@caker> | like what? |
| 19:16 | <@mikegrb> | like bios info |
| 19:16 | <@mikegrb> | debug/status messages |
| 19:16 | <@caker> | are you still talking about uml? |
| 19:16 | <@mikegrb> | heh no |
| 19:17 | <@mikegrb> | sorry |
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| 19:17 | <@mikegrb> | just knew there were some knowledgeable people in here |
| 19:17 | | * adamg keeps well away from kernels |
| 19:17 | <@caker> | I don't believe I've ever had a need to do that... |
| 19:18 | <@mikegrb> | I'll check #kernelnewbies |
| 19:18 | <@adamg> | chris what are the ram disks used for that are mentioned in the console output? |
| 19:19 | <@caker> | same as on a physical hosts -- mostly used for initrd's |
| 19:20 | <@adamg> | ok |
| 19:21 | <@adamg> | also if when you boot the linode a disk is marked as read only via the CP |
| 19:22 | <@adamg> | if it is then changed to read write via the CP, does the linode have to be rebooted before it can be mounted as rw within the linode |
| 19:22 | <@caker> | yes, since the device inside the UML kernel is marked r/o |
| 19:22 | <@caker> | it's set to r/o at boot time |
| 19:24 | | * adamg if forced to install php :-( |
| 19:24 | <@adamg> | s/if/is |
| 19:30 | | * caker grins at Quik |
| 19:35 | <Quik> | caker, you just aren't quick enough ;) |
| 19:35 | <@caker> | guess not :) |
| 20:04 | <@adamg> | chris are credit cards billed automattically? |
| 20:04 | <@caker> | Yes |
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| 20:04 | <@adamg> | strange |
| 20:04 | <@caker> | why? |
| 20:04 | <guinea-else> | anyone seeing anything weird on host10, or is it just me? |
| 20:04 | <@adamg> | by the looks of it my billing did not go through |
| 20:05 | <@caker> | Hrm -- the billing script is running right now, so perhaps its invoiced you, but hasn't charged your card yet |
| 20:05 | <@caker> | guinea-else: host10's loadavg is < 1 |
| 20:05 | <@adamg> | when I logged in to the CP just now, it said I had an outstanding balance |
| 20:05 | <guinea-else> | damn |
| 20:06 | <@caker> | adamg: that's why then -- it invoices everyone first, then loops through and charges the card -- give it a few minutes |
| 20:06 | <guinea-else> | it's not responding ... |
| 20:06 | <guinea-else> | except i can still ping guinea-dinner |
| 20:06 | <guinea-else> | weird |
| 20:06 | <@adamg> | well i clicked on the bill card now thing link, so I hope I havnt been billed twice |
| 20:07 | <@caker> | adamg: hrm .. it might have |
| 20:07 | <@adamg> | i thought if it listed that in the CP, there would have been a problem with the billing |
| 20:08 | <@caker> | The CP will display that if you have an outstanding balance, which after invoices everyone does for a few minutes .. |
| 20:09 | <@caker> | something I never considered |
| 20:09 | <@adamg> | and if you login to the cp in those few minutes.. |
| 20:09 | <@caker> | yeah |
| 20:09 | <@caker> | and do what you did |
| 20:10 | | * caker thinks about that |
| 20:10 | <@adamg> | well I logged in to boot my linode if it rebooted it automattically this would never have happened!! |
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| 20:10 | <guinea-else> | sigh |
| 20:10 | <guinea-else> | it got the emergency sync treatment :< |
| 20:10 | <@adamg> | i will see what my CC bill says in a few days |
| 20:11 | <@caker> | adamg: when its through, I'll check on my end too .. the good thing is, that it will register those two payments into your account (as opposed to only seeing one) |
| 20:12 | <@adamg> | which CC processor do you use? |
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| 20:13 | <@caker> | verisign (formerly cybercash) for the gateway, and cardservice international for my merchant service |
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| 20:13 | <@adamg> | verisign if very expensive |
| 20:13 | <@adamg> | was speaking to one of there VPs last week |
| 20:14 | | * Efudd snickers @ verisigns SSL certs |
| 20:14 | <@mikegrb> | WEX49MJ000 |
| 20:14 | <@mikegrb> | er sorry |
| 20:14 | <@mikegrb> | kbd slipped |
| 20:14 | <tjfontaine> | hah |
| 20:15 | <@caker> | adamg: I'm showing you have a positive balance of +19.95 -- can we leave it for next month, or would you like me to void one? |
| 20:15 | | * mikegrb remembers cyber cash, or was that cyber gold |
| 20:15 | <@adamg> | leave it |
| 20:15 | <@caker> | ok, tnx |
| 20:15 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 20:15 | <@mikegrb> | that saves caker money |
| 20:15 | <@adamg> | depends when the batches run |
| 20:16 | <@mikegrb> | hello tj |
| 20:16 | <@caker> | the fees are per trans, not batch, so doesn't really help me :) |
| 20:16 | <tjfontaine> | yo |
| 20:18 | <@adamg> | it may cost chris but I wouldnt even now, verisign only do billing runs once a day, so if the refund is processed before then it wouldnt show on my statement |
| 20:19 | <@adamg> | s/now/no |
| 20:20 | <guinea-pig> | GAR!!!! |
| 20:20 | <@mikegrb> | RAG!!!! |
| 20:20 | <@caker> | GWAR |
| 20:21 | <guinea-pig> | gar is a perfectly legitimate exclamation of anger |
| 20:21 | <tjfontaine> | war huh what is it good for |
| 20:21 | <guinea-pig> | absolutely nothin' |
| 20:22 | <guinea-pig> | so yeah. evite uses javascript on the submit button |
| 20:22 | | * guinea-pig cries |
| 20:22 | | * guinea-pig can't wait to meet $GeekyGirl |
| 20:23 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 20:23 | | * mikegrb was impressed friday night |
| 20:23 | <@mikegrb> | woke up and heidi had lots of details about using her new pcmcia network card in linux |
| 20:23 | <@mikegrb> | found out what kernel module to use and everything |
| 20:24 | <@mikegrb> | she didn't even know anything about kernel modules before then |
| 20:24 | <guinea-pig> | heh |
| 20:24 | <@mikegrb> | heidi++ |
| 20:24 | <guinea-pig> | kickass |
| 20:24 | <guinea-pig> | heidi++ |
| 20:24 | <@mikegrb> | indeed |
| 20:24 | <guinea-pig> | i met a *very* hot math teacher today, who unfortunately got married a few months ago :< |
| 20:24 | <@mikegrb> | she's been impressing me lots lately |
| 20:24 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 20:24 | <@mikegrb> | if she is very hot, she is not likely to last for long, as you found out |
| 20:24 | <tjfontaine> | heh |
| 20:25 | <guinea-pig> | eh? |
| 20:25 | <tjfontaine> | heidi impressed me as well when I was tryin to help her |
| 20:25 | <tjfontaine> | "if you want to be happy for the rest of your life..." |
| 20:25 | <guinea-pig> | my standards of hot do not in any way agree with most people's |
| 20:25 | <guinea-pig> | i found the fact she was telling insanely geeky math jokes to be hot |
| 20:26 | <guinea-pig> | rene descartes walkes into a restaurant |
| 20:27 | <tjfontaine> | heh |
| 20:27 | <guinea-pig> | waiter seats him and asks "would you like today's special?" |
| 20:27 | <guinea-pig> | rene says "i think not" |
| 20:27 | <guinea-pig> | and vanishes with a poof |
| 20:27 | <tjfontaine> | heheh |
| 20:27 | <guinea-pig> | ok, not a math joke, but funny still |
| 20:28 | <guinea-pig> | (he's the one who said "i think, therefore i am" if you don't know) |
| 20:28 | <tjfontaine> | I got it thanks ;-) |
| 20:28 | <guinea-pig> | i saw *you* got it. i saw you were the *only* one :P |
| 20:29 | <@caker> | what I don't create, I cannot understand |
| 20:29 | <tjfontaine> | heh |
| 20:29 | <guinea-pig> | what did the parrot say when it didn't get fed? |
| 20:30 | <guinea-pig> | polynomial |
| 20:30 | <tjfontaine> | heheheh |
| 20:30 | <guinea-pig> | yeah. that's hot |
| 20:30 | <@caker> | that's a good one |
| 20:31 | <tjfontaine> | *sigh* |
| 20:31 | <tjfontaine> | that was a good one |
| 20:36 | <@mikegrb> | why did the chicken cross the road? |
| 20:36 | <@mikegrb> | to get to the other side |
| 20:36 | <@mikegrb> | hahahaha |
| 20:37 | <Efudd> | uh |
| 20:37 | <Efudd> | to give the road ar eason to exihist! |
| 20:37 | <@caker> | aflac! |
| 20:37 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 20:37 | <@mikegrb> | caker++ |
| 20:37 | <@caker> | AFLAC!!! |
| 20:38 | <Efudd> | QUACK |
| 20:38 | | * Efudd sighs |
| 20:38 | <Efudd> | 5 machines are non responseive for some reason |
| 20:38 | <Efudd> | nothing in log buffer |
| 20:39 | <Efudd> | == poweroff, poweron |
| 20:39 | <@caker> | watch is a very useful proggie |
| 20:40 | <@mikegrb> | watch? |
| 20:40 | <Efudd> | hrm? |
| 20:40 | <@caker> | ooo |
| 20:40 | <@caker> | watch ifconfig eth0 |
| 20:40 | <@mikegrb> | ohhhhhh |
| 20:40 | <@mikegrb> | reruns it ever x seconds |
| 20:40 | <@caker> | right |
| 20:40 | <@mikegrb> | can even hi-light differences |
| 20:40 | <@mikegrb> | yes very useful |
| 20:41 | <@mikegrb> | haven't used it in a while |
| 20:41 | <Efudd> | lom>poweroff |
| 20:41 | | * Efudd BOFHs |
| 20:43 | <Efudd> | LOM is almost as good as pre-sliced bread |
| 20:43 | <@mikegrb> | lom? |
| 20:43 | <guinea-pig> | loads of money :D |
| 20:43 | <Efudd> | lights out management |
| 20:43 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 20:44 | <Efudd> | serial console thingy built into new suns, allows poer on/poweroff, uvariable access levels, scrollback buffer, ability to send a hard break, etc. |
| 20:44 | <@caker> | having that built in is a nice feature -- what's it connect via? |
| 20:45 | <Efudd> | serial :/ |
| 20:45 | <@caker> | erm |
| 20:45 | <Efudd> | it uses a specific escape sequence to connect to LOM |
| 20:45 | <@caker> | so how's that different than sysrq's and a serial cable? |
| 20:45 | <Efudd> | regular TTYA or B |
| 20:45 | <@caker> | LOM is some hardware built in? |
| 20:45 | <Efudd> | yeah |
| 20:45 | <@caker> | ok |
| 20:45 | <@caker> | intersecting |
| 20:45 | <Efudd> | as long as I have the nettra's powered..... |
| 20:46 | <Efudd> | i can telnet to the serial port and boot them |
| 20:49 | <Efudd> | Nov 30 03:46:09 mgate2 named[446]: [ID 866145 daemon.error] client 66.57.82.229# |
| 20:49 | <Efudd> | 2741: update 'broked.net/IN' denied |
| 20:49 | <Efudd> | what, is that some type of hijack method these days ? |
| 20:49 | <@caker> | it can be |
| 20:49 | <@caker> | probably a probe |
| 20:50 | <Efudd> | fucker was hitting that dns server a bazillion times |
| 20:50 | <@caker> | do you have reverse set? |
| 20:50 | <Efudd> | HAHAHA |
| 20:50 | <Efudd> | it's my home machine |
| 20:50 | | * Efudd was tracerouting and went 'wtf? raleigh?' |
| 20:50 | <Efudd> | now wtf is my XP machine doing that. :P |
| 20:51 | <Efudd> | efudd--- |
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| 20:51 | <Efoo> | Efudd-- |
| 20:51 | <Efoo> | and tdamnit sighup, i'll karma myself all i want |
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| 20:52 | -!- | slacker [~You_Wish@adsl-068-209-131-003.sip.jax.bellsouth.net] has joined #linode |
| 20:52 | <slacker> | test |
| 20:53 | <Efudd> | ah, "Register this connection in DNS" .. |
| 20:54 | <@caker> | wow |
| 20:54 | <Efudd> | XP was trying every 30 minutes |
| 20:54 | <slacker> | anybody got time for some stupid questions |
| 20:55 | <@caker> | go for it |
| 20:55 | <slacker> | the last time servers went down |
| 20:55 | <slacker> | i asked about setting hostname |
| 20:55 | <slacker> | you gave me this |
| 20:55 | <slacker> | ,'/etc/hostname |
| 20:56 | <slacker> | you said put the hostname there |
| 20:56 | <slacker> | but that file is not there |
| 20:56 | <@caker> | how about /etc/HOSTNAME? |
| 20:56 | <slacker> | only host config |
| 20:56 | <@caker> | which distro? |
| 20:56 | <slacker> | rh8 |
| 20:56 | <slacker> | and hosts |
| 20:57 | <slacker> | and hosts file |
| 20:57 | <Efudd> | Perhaps if I read the RFC relating to sieve it would inform me of it's destire to be non documented. |
| 20:57 | <slacker> | i been reading every ican find where to put the host name so i am giving up |
| 20:58 | <slacker> | can come point in to some place |
| 20:58 | <slacker> | this is all in that one file order hosts,bind |
| 20:59 | <@caker> | Do you have a hostname line in /etc/sysconfig/network ? |
| 20:59 | <@caker> | HOSTNAME=foo.bar.com |
| 20:59 | <slacker> | looking brb |
| 21:00 | <slacker> | can i paste here |
| 21:01 | <@caker> | sure |
| 21:01 | <slacker> | NETWORKING=yes |
| 21:01 | <slacker> | FORWARD_IPV4=false |
| 21:01 | <slacker> | HOSTNAME=localhost |
| 21:01 | <slacker> | that is what is there |
| 21:01 | <Efudd> | ! well, fix that. |
| 21:01 | <slacker> | i can just put any name |
| 21:01 | <slacker> | does it matter |
| 21:02 | <Efudd> | slacker, I suggest you purchase an O'Reilly Associates book |
| 21:02 | <Efudd> | "DNS and Bind" |
| 21:02 | <Efudd> | Make sure you get the latest revision. |
| 21:02 | <Efudd> | read it cover to cover. |
| 21:02 | <slacker> | ya man i use that for my pillow |
| 21:02 | <@caker> | :) |
| 21:02 | <@mikegrb> | and/or "essential systems administration" frokm same publisher |
| 21:02 | <@mikegrb> | that book is great |
| 21:02 | <slacker> | now you know where i can get a good translator |
| 21:03 | <slacker> | if i want to read i would joined stupid book club |
| 21:03 | <Efudd> | i think this macintosh keyoard is against me on a PC |
| 21:03 | <Efudd> | I type "foo" and "bar hahahaha" comes out |
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| 21:03 | <LokiVidalez> | join #uml |
| 21:03 | <LokiVidalez> | sry |
| 21:04 | <slacker> | so is that right HOSTNAME=localhost |
| 21:04 | <slacker> | is that the right place and can i put anything |
| 21:04 | <Efudd> | Yes and sure, why not. |
| 21:04 | <@mikegrb> | EFudd: that is hillarious |
| 21:04 | <slacker> | or just send me to #getlost |
| 21:04 | <Efudd> | slacker, that /is/ the right location |
| 21:05 | <Efudd> | but "can i put anything" is such a difficult question to answer. |
| 21:05 | <slacker> | it has to resovle right |
| 21:05 | <Efudd> | Not really. :-) |
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| 21:05 | <slacker> | ok what can't it be |
| 21:05 | <Efudd> | But that brings up a lot more complications. |
| 21:05 | -!- | LokiVidalez [joshua@ACABB23D.ipt.aol.com] has joined #linode |
| 21:05 | <Efudd> | It specifically can't be soemthing that doesn't provide you the functionality that you are looking for. |
| 21:06 | <@caker> | hey LokiVidalez -- check this out: http://www.linode.com/images/pr/pb_linode1.gif |
| 21:06 | <LokiVidalez> | sweet |
| 21:06 | <@mikegrb> | sighup: fcol that |
| 21:06 | <LokiVidalez> | are you gonna edit it anymore? |
| 21:06 | <sighup> | Your fcol is http://xev.us/Gn |
| 21:06 | <slacker> | Efudd what book club are you in sign me up |
| 21:06 | <Efudd> | www.oreilly.com |
| 21:07 | <Efudd> | purchase the whole lot |
| 21:07 | <Efudd> | (well, that used to be feasible, now it isn't really) |
| 21:07 | <LokiVidalez> | caker: thanks i am dling it |
| 21:07 | <@caker> | http://www.theshore.net/~caker/books/ |
| 21:07 | <@mikegrb> | slacker: try safari, safari.oreilly.com |
| 21:07 | <LokiVidalez> | Gezz |
| 21:07 | <slacker> | man you guys are like a gold mine |
| 21:08 | <LokiVidalez> | that is cool |
| 21:08 | <Efudd> | [SPAM 47.77/05.00][SPAM 47.77/05.00] |
| 21:08 | <@mikegrb> | I think you can still get a 30 day free trial |
| 21:08 | <@caker> | there's an example of what they have to offer |
| 21:08 | <Efudd> | that is my current pride and joy. -) |
| 21:08 | <LokiVidalez> | caker: you editing it anymore or is it sfae to dl? |
| 21:08 | <@caker> | it's not for downloading |
| 21:09 | <LokiVidalez> | Oh |
| 21:09 | <@caker> | er, the image is, but not the books |
| 21:09 | <LokiVidalez> | hotlink? |
| 21:09 | <@caker> | you can take the image |
| 21:09 | <Efudd> | caker, bah! |
| 21:09 | <LokiVidalez> | that is what i meant |
| 21:09 | <Efudd> | i think i have a smaller version of /books on cd here somewhere |
| 21:09 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 21:10 | | * Efudd loads up wget :-) |
| 21:10 | | * mikegrb *cough* bookmarks *cough* caker's page |
| 21:11 | <@caker> | http://www.theshore.net/~caker/books.tgz is probably easier |
| 21:11 | | * Efudd notes it is :-) |
| 21:11 | <@mikegrb> | yes |
| 21:11 | <@mikegrb> | I already saw that |
| 21:11 | <Efudd> | welcome to 60seconds ago! |
| 21:11 | | * mikegrb tells caker to look at the aliens |
| 21:12 | | * mikegrb dl's something while caker is not looking |
| 21:12 | <LokiVidalez> | LOL |
| 21:12 | <LokiVidalez> | that is 90 megs |
| 21:12 | <slacker> | that is huge |
| 21:14 | <Efudd> | they all say that. |
| 21:14 | <@caker> | wait until it's uncompressed |
| 21:14 | | * Efudd snickers |
| 21:14 | <@caker> | :-p |
| 21:14 | <slacker> | keke |
| 21:15 | <Efudd> | yanno. wakeing up at ~8pm, grabbing a beer, then getting on irc isn't the best of idears =_) |
| 21:15 | <Efudd> | in fact, i'm pretty sure my GF is currently pissed off that i'm not at her house watching alias |
| 21:16 | <LokiVidalez> | caker: http://172.171.178.61 |
| 21:16 | <slacker> | what kind of os is holding up our linodes |
| 21:16 | <@adamg> | rh |
| 21:16 | <LokiVidalez> | it is a UML Kernal |
| 21:17 | <LokiVidalez> | O.o |
| 21:17 | <LokiVidalez> | there is a distro attached? |
| 21:17 | <slacker> | isn't that what we are using |
| 21:17 | <@adamg> | base OS is rh which runs uml on top of it |
| 21:17 | <LokiVidalez> | cool cool |
| 21:17 | <@adamg> | damm slow dl speed only 600k per second |
| 21:18 | <slacker> | you know what what would be cooler with linode just an idea |
| 21:18 | <slacker> | if you can put the uml on our side two |
| 21:19 | <slacker> | so we could resell root |
| 21:19 | <slacker> | make sense |
| 21:19 | <@adamg> | it would be to slow |
| 21:19 | <shakr> | i think its already a bad idea that people give out free shell accounts on linodes :o |
| 21:19 | <LokiVidalez> | shakr why? |
| 21:20 | <LokiVidalez> | i have a free account on a linode |
| 21:20 | <LokiVidalez> | thatr is how i foudn linode |
| 21:20 | <LokiVidalez> | *found out |
| 21:20 | <slacker> | why would it make a difference |
| 21:20 | <@adamg> | you can also say the same about allowing ircd to be run as well |
| 21:21 | <slacker> | if someone else did you doesn't mean you would pay for it |
| 21:21 | <LokiVidalez> | adamg: LOL if you are paying for a vded why couldn;t they |
| 21:21 | <shakr> | irc clients usually have an upper bouund on local resources used |
| 21:21 | <@adamg> | free shell accounts attract script kiddies and people who want to do illegal things and ircd attract dos attacks |
| 21:21 | <LokiVidalez> | well the place i am at the sysadmin requires you to submit a copy of your id |
| 21:21 | <slacker> | so prevention should be the plan |
| 21:21 | <LokiVidalez> | and calls you |
| 21:22 | <slacker> | you got any good prevention methods |
| 21:22 | <slacker> | for dos attacks |
| 21:22 | <shakr> | are people really that hard up for money that they need _free_ accounts |
| 21:23 | <@adamg> | we have had the convesation about IDs before on here |
| 21:23 | <slacker> | thanks caker for dl |
| 21:23 | <slacker> | and the help |
| 21:23 | <slacker> | i am out |
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| 21:23 | <@adamg> | I can get fake IDs within minutes and as for calling people well that is easy to fix |
| 21:24 | <@adamg> | well that was a quick visit |
| 21:24 | <@adamg> | oh well time to sleep, nite all |
| 21:25 | <LokiVidalez> | adamg, true lol |
| 21:25 | <@caker> | LokiVidalez: 172.171.178.61 doesn't load |
| 21:25 | <@adamg> | and as for preventing DOS attacks it is nearly impossible |
| 21:25 | <LokiVidalez> | O.o |
| 21:25 | <LokiVidalez> | does for me |
| 21:26 | <LokiVidalez> | Hold on |
| 21:26 | <Efudd> | mmm deals gap |
| 21:26 | <Efudd> | :-) |
| 21:26 | | * Efudd looks at labor day pictures |
| 21:31 | <LokiVidalez> | caker: now try http://172.171.178.61 |
| 21:32 | <@caker> | LokiVidalez: add a <br> after TuxTech is proud to be: |
| 21:33 | <LokiVidalez> | there was a 100% ms free |
| 21:33 | <LokiVidalez> | but if it was still there linode woul dbee boote dto the next line |
| 21:33 | <@caker> | my image wraps to the bottom |
| 21:33 | <LokiVidalez> | it does? |
| 21:33 | <@caker> | or maybe center the images |
| 21:34 | <LokiVidalez> | They are |
| 21:34 | <Efudd> | Yeah, i think a <br /> after be is correct |
| 21:35 | <Efudd> | it's just wrapping around.... |
| 21:35 | <Efudd> | and center tuxtech is proud to be.. |
| 21:35 | <LokiVidalez> | O.o |
| 21:36 | <LokiVidalez> | it didn;t wrap arounf O.o |
| 21:36 | <LokiVidalez> | now it does |
| 21:37 | <Efudd> | hey loki |
| 21:37 | <LokiVidalez> | Yea? |
| 21:37 | <Efudd> | you are on aol and therefore not 100pct microsoft free |
| 21:37 | <Efudd> | =) |
| 21:37 | <LokiVidalez> | i am on linux |
| 21:37 | <LokiVidalez> | CPU: Pentium II (Deschutes) @ 448 MHz | Mem usage: 66.9/190.3 mb (35%) | Swap usage: 39.5/2084.9 mb (2%) | Disk usage(MAXTOR 6L040J2): 13.7/36.9 gb (37%) | Uptime: 2 hrs 55 mins 14 secs |
| 21:37 | <LokiVidalez> | Sysinfo: Linux 2.4.22 | Distro: Slackware 9.1.0 | Local Time: 21:37:39 EST | Connection: ppp0 Received: 1.4 Mb, 6894 packets Send: 777.2 Kb, 6855 packets | Users: 3 Load: 0.64 |
| 21:37 | <LokiVidalez> | XFree86: 4.3.0 | Monitor: Compaq S700 Videocard: ATI Mach64 3D Rage Pro | Res: 1152x864 /w 24 bit gfx | X-chat: 2.0.6 |
| 21:37 | <Efudd> | ha! regular pppd for dialup to aol |
| 21:37 | <Efudd> | /me snickers |
| 21:38 | <LokiVidalez> | what i am on linux |
| 21:38 | <LokiVidalez> | =P |
| 21:38 | | * Efudd goes for shower |
| 21:39 | <sinned> | slacker mentioned why can't his uml install come with uml in it as well |
| 21:40 | <sinned> | so he could resell uml access |
| 21:40 | <sinned> | that is possible isn't it? |
| 21:40 | <@caker> | you can compile with nesting=2 and do it , yes |
| 21:40 | <sinned> | uml can run on a uml kernel, no? |
| 21:40 | <sinned> | thought so |
| 21:40 | <@mikegrb> | would be aweful slow |
| 21:41 | <LokiVidalez> | hehe |
| 21:41 | <@mikegrb> | without linode 1024 or some such for the first one |
| 21:41 | <LokiVidalez> | caker are all 128's on he? |
| 21:41 | <@mikegrb> | xnest is uber spiffy though |
| 21:41 | <@mikegrb> | sighup: linode avail |
| 21:41 | <@caker> | let me check |
| 21:41 | | * mikegrb kicks sighup |
| 21:42 | <LokiVidalez> | the 4 avaible |
| 21:42 | <tjfontaine> | I'm tellin you mike, straight ltsp |
| 21:42 | <@caker> | 2 at TP, and 2 at HE |
| 21:42 | <LokiVidalez> | okay |
| 21:42 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 21:42 | <@mikegrb> | tjfontaine: I donnn't use xnest for her login |
| 21:42 | <tjfontaine> | regardless |
| 21:42 | <LokiVidalez> | well i will ask again when i get more $ |
| 21:42 | <@mikegrb> | she is a straigh remote session |
| 21:42 | <@mikegrb> | the only difference is she isn't net booting |
| 21:43 | <@mikegrb> | so it is probably faster as is now |
| 21:43 | <tjfontaine> | who knows |
| 21:43 | <tjfontaine> | at least go openmosix :-) |
| 21:43 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 21:43 | <@mikegrb> | here cpu has nothing to offer |
| 21:43 | <@mikegrb> | s/here/her/ |
| 21:43 | <@mikegrb> | I played with xnest last night though |
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| 21:44 | <@mikegrb> | sense gnome had an entry with the default install for it on the menu |
| 21:44 | <@mikegrb> | s/sense/since |
| 21:44 | <@caker> | ?? |
| 21:44 | <sighup> | Linode availability -- [Linode 64: 6] [Linode 96: 6] [Linode 128: 4] [Linode 192: 0] [Linode 256: 0] |
| 21:44 | <@mikegrb> | caker: ??? |
| 21:44 | <LokiVidalez> | hehe |
| 21:45 | <@caker> | mucho lag |
| 21:45 | <LokiVidalez> | hehe |
| 21:45 | <tjfontaine> | ya, but think of your transcoding and myth :-) |
| 21:45 | <LokiVidalez> | what server is signup on? |
| 21:45 | <@mikegrb> | myth does realtime encoding at record time |
| 21:45 | <@mikegrb> | so it wouldn't benifit from openmosix for that |
| 21:45 | <tjfontaine> | don't you transcode to divx? |
| 21:45 | <@mikegrb> | I don't transcode yet but in future I will |
| 21:46 | <@mikegrb> | it records open divx in real time |
| 21:47 | <@mikegrb> | I've upped the bit rate lots recently |
| 21:47 | <@mikegrb> | quality is amazing |
| 21:47 | <@mikegrb> | now if I just turn the new dnr filter in cvs on quality from mythtv can be technically better then raw signal |
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| 21:50 | <LokiVidalez> | moo |
| 21:53 | <risto> | any DNS experts? |
| 21:53 | <risto> | Q: what will the DNS server do first if it has NS records cached that has become lame? |
| 21:54 | <risto> | and in the root the new NS record is accurate |
| 21:54 | <risto> | does it a) expire the lame NS record and get new, b) keep the old NS record until it is supposed to expire it and then get new |
| 21:54 | <LokiVidalez> | godaddy is being a bitch |
| 21:55 | <risto> | how come? |
| 21:55 | <LokiVidalez> | waited a week |
| 21:55 | <risto> | I had good success with them after all |
| 21:55 | <LokiVidalez> | for DNS server changes |
| 21:55 | <risto> | you need to be proactive |
| 21:55 | <LokiVidalez> | and it ahs not happened it |
| 21:56 | <shakr> | in what root? |
| 21:56 | <risto> | shakr, org |
| 21:56 | <shakr> | er what sort of dns record is in 'the root' |
| 21:56 | <shakr> | that would be getting cachced |
| 21:57 | <risto> | shakr, the old registrar's NS record being cached on dns servers |
| 21:57 | <risto> | looks like the old registrar have acted quick and made one of their DNS servers already non-authoritative |
| 21:58 | <shakr> | i would expect that the recursive dns servers would continue to return the lame record |
| 21:58 | <risto> | if you look at this you can see what I am talking about: |
| 21:59 | <risto> | % dig ns sdxl.org @TLD1.ULTRADNS.NET |
| 21:59 | <risto> | % dig ns sdxl.org @ns2.sci.fi |
| 21:59 | <risto> | ns2.sci.fi still caching the old NS |
| 21:59 | <LokiVidalez> | sdxl.org. 3589 IN NS dallas.rko.iki.fi. |
| 21:59 | <LokiVidalez> | sdxl.org. 3589 IN NS ns14.zoneedit.com. |
| 21:59 | <LokiVidalez> | sdxl.org. 3589 IN NS ns15.zoneedit.com. |
| 22:00 | <risto> | one of which is no longer authoritative |
| 22:00 | <risto> | those are the current and correct NSs |
| 22:00 | <LokiVidalez> | root@tuxtech:/etc/webmin-1.121# dig ns sdxl.org |
| 22:00 | <LokiVidalez> | ; <<>> DiG 9.2.2-P3 <<>> ns sdxl.org |
| 22:00 | <LokiVidalez> | ;; global options: printcmd |
| 22:00 | <LokiVidalez> | ;; Got answer: |
| 22:00 | <LokiVidalez> | ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 181 |
| 22:00 | <LokiVidalez> | ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1 |
| 22:00 | <LokiVidalez> | ;; QUESTION SECTION: |
| 22:00 | <LokiVidalez> | ;sdxl.org. IN NS |
| 22:01 | <shakr> | if you cant wait for the ttl to expire set your client to use a different server |
| 22:01 | <LokiVidalez> | ;; ANSWER SECTION: |
| 22:01 | <LokiVidalez> | sdxl.org. 3541 IN NS ns14.zoneedit.com. |
| 22:01 | <LokiVidalez> | sdxl.org. 3541 IN NS ns15.zoneedit.com. |
| 22:01 | <LokiVidalez> | sdxl.org. 3541 IN NS dallas.rko.iki.fi. |
| 22:01 | <LokiVidalez> | ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: |
| 22:01 | <LokiVidalez> | dallas.rko.iki.fi. 3541 IN A 64.5.53.140 |
| 22:01 | <sinned> | The following answer is not authoritative: |
| 22:01 | <sinned> | sdxl.org 297916 IN A 64.5.53.140 |
| 22:01 | <LokiVidalez> | ;; Query time: 218 msec |
| 22:01 | <LokiVidalez> | ;; SERVER: 64.12.107.134#53(64.12.107.134) |
| 22:01 | <sinned> | yeah, it's got that many seconds left until it expires |
| 22:01 | <LokiVidalez> | ;; WHEN: Sun Nov 30 22:00:35 2003 |
| 22:01 | <LokiVidalez> | ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 123 |
| 22:01 | <LokiVidalez> | root@tuxtech:/etc/webmin-1.121# |
| 22:01 | <risto> | shakr, I'm not worried about myself... just all those people in isp's that still have the old NS cached |
| 22:01 | <sinned> | you can't do anything about it |
| 22:02 | <risto> | I know I can't |
| 22:02 | <sinned> | it will keep the old, wrong record until 82 hours from now |
| 22:02 | <risto> | but I can notify some customers that there's potential problems looming |
| 22:02 | <sinned> | yeah |
| 22:03 | <risto> | but I still don't see problems very likely |
| 22:03 | <risto> | because they most likely have MX cached too |
| 22:03 | <risto> | or www.sdxl.org |
| 22:04 | <risto> | in theory... only if they have one of them cached, and not the other, a problem might occur |
| 22:05 | <risto> | AND that register.com pulls out both of the old DNS servers |
| 22:05 | <LokiVidalez> | risto: do you use godaddy for your dns? |
| 22:05 | <LokiVidalez> | or zoneedit |
| 22:05 | <risto> | loki, for some domains yes |
| 22:05 | <risto> | in this one I use zoneedit |
| 22:06 | <risto> | registrar is godaddy |
| 22:06 | <tjfontaine> | w00t |
| 22:06 | <tjfontaine> | bout time silly amavisd-new |
| 22:06 | <risto> | loki, what kind of problem you had with them? |
| 22:07 | <LokiVidalez> | not chnageing ns records |
| 22:07 | <risto> | you can see the domain in the menu? |
| 22:07 | <LokiVidalez> | yea |
| 22:07 | <LokiVidalez> | i did all that crap |
| 22:07 | <LokiVidalez> | it siad it was changeing it |
| 22:07 | <LokiVidalez> | and it never did |
| 22:07 | <shakr> | godaddy occasionally has problems adding .org ns glue records to the .net/.com namespace ime |
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| 22:28 | <tjfontaine> | caker++ |
| 22:28 | <tjfontaine> | caker++ |
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