| --- | Log | opened Thu Nov 20 00:00:02 2003 |
| --- | Day | changed Thu Nov 20 2003 |
| 00:00 | <@mikegrb> | it is an option in the users file with a note that it could be cpu intensive |
| 00:00 | <@mikegrb> | it is turned on though |
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| 00:01 | <EFudd> | oic. |
| 00:02 | <EFudd> | UML_Chanlog-- |
| 00:05 | <@mikegrb> | ' |
| 00:06 | <@mikegrb> | sighup: search for video |
| 00:06 | <sighup> | mikegrb: i'm not following you... |
| 00:06 | <@mikegrb> | :/ |
| 00:07 | <@mikegrb> | sighup: scan for video |
| 00:07 | <sighup> | mikegrb: i'm not following you... |
| 00:08 | <@mikegrb> | heh found the code that does it but it isn't called it looks like |
| --- | Log | closed Thu Nov 20 00:10:41 2003 |
| --- | Log | opened Thu Nov 20 00:11:11 2003 |
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| 00:11 | <@mikegrb> | heh oops |
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| 00:11 | <@mikegrb> | wrong window to close |
| 00:12 | <slacker> | is it possible on linode for us to be resellers of domains |
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| 02:39 | <EFudd> | sighup: typo3 video? |
| 02:39 | <sighup> | typo3 video is http://typo3.org/1407.0.html |
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| 04:26 | <wap> | Good morning. |
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| 12:47 | <@adamg> | sighup: linode forums |
| 12:47 | <sighup> | adamg: General Discussion: Gentoo Compiling glibc ... ; MySQL Database Forum: Mysql perfomance questions ; General Discussion: Life beyond the forums ; General Discussion: Shopping Cart Software ; Linux Networking: Portscans & other malicious ... |
| 13:14 | <tjfontaine> | did mikegrb ever finish the static version of the controlpanel? |
| 13:19 | -!- | JuliaWork [~julie@3ffe:bc0:8000::abb] has joined #linode |
| 13:20 | <JuliaWork> | Hi all |
| 13:21 | <tjfontaine> | hiya JuliaWork |
| 13:21 | <tjfontaine> | ltns ;-) |
| 13:21 | <JuliaWork> | doh! |
| 13:23 | <Quik> | (18:19:27) —› join: (JuliaWork) (~julie@3ffe:bc0:8000::abb) |
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| 13:23 | <Quik> | ^^ how do ya do that? :) |
| 13:24 | <tjfontaine> | stop killin the bot! ;-) |
| 13:24 | <JuliaWork> | Quik: ipv6 |
| 13:24 | <JuliaWork> | Quik: I keep meaning to put reverse dns back up for it |
| 13:24 | <JuliaWork> | and just haven't gotten around to it |
| 13:24 | <Quik> | ahh right :) |
| 13:25 | -!- | sighup [~sighup@webuser.oftc.net] has joined #linode |
| 13:25 | <Quik> | it's all just stuff on paper to me at the moment |
| 13:25 | <JuliaWork> | I'm thinking about becoming a linode user, and stopping hosting my own box, it would be a lot cheaper |
| 13:26 | <Quik> | wait till caker quits and we will give you the *real* lowdown! |
| 13:27 | <tjfontaine> | heh |
| 13:27 | <tjfontaine> | caker: you about? |
| 13:32 | <@caker> | Hey guys |
| 13:33 | <tjfontaine> | howdy |
| 13:33 | <@caker> | hew server just arrived :) |
| 13:33 | <@caker> | Quik :-p |
| 13:33 | | * EFudd wakes up and heads towards work |
| 13:33 | <EFudd> | SSDD yay! |
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| 13:36 | <Ashen> | hi all. |
| 13:37 | <tjfontaine> | yello |
| 13:38 | <Ashen> | is it me or is host5 direly slow atm? |
| 13:38 | <@caker> | Ashen: I can tell you it's not disk bound |
| 13:39 | <@caker> | Ashen: and your linode is crusing along at 100% cpu -- any thoughts? |
| 13:39 | <Ashen> | this is really bizzare. 10 minitues ago it wouldn't even respond to pings externally..... now it pings, but all my ssh sessions timeout and I can't open new ones. |
| 13:39 | <Quik> | lol |
| 13:39 | <tjfontaine> | runaway vim processes |
| 13:40 | <Ashen> | grrr evil vim. |
| 13:40 | <tjfontaine> | did I win the game? |
| 13:40 | <@caker> | Ashen: connect to the console |
| 13:40 | <Ashen> | caker: tried that already, won't let me on. |
| 13:41 | <Ashen> | caker: gives me a few kernel errors, but an otherwise blank screen without a login prompt. |
| 13:41 | <@caker> | what kernel errors? |
| 13:41 | <Ashen> | forged dcc command errors, normal when I've got a bnc running on it..... not anything that would cause this |
| 13:42 | | * Ashen is pondering how to go about finding out what's wrong with it when it's impossible to login |
| 13:43 | <Ashen> | any ideas? |
| 13:43 | <@caker> | sounds like you are out of memory and it might be swapping ? |
| 13:44 | <Ashen> | I just paid for another 32MB memory, and added 200MB swap space...... |
| 13:44 | <Ashen> | argh now I can't ping it externally either :-/ |
| 13:44 | <Ashen> | is there any way to see what it's up to? |
| 13:44 | <@caker> | one sec |
| 13:45 | <Ashen> | the last few times this has happened I've waited awhile, then issued a reboot from the linode.com panel. It comes back up normally...... however I can't find anything in the logs to explain what's going on. |
| 13:45 | <Ashen> | ty for the aid caker. |
| 13:45 | <@caker> | hmm |
| 13:47 | <@caker> | What were you doing when this started happening? |
| 13:48 | <Ashen> | ircing. |
| 13:48 | <Ashen> | I'd been writing perl for the last hour |
| 13:48 | <@caker> | Swap usage looks ok |
| 13:48 | <Ashen> | nothing that intensive. |
| 13:48 | <@caker> | using about 70m out of 200 |
| 13:48 | | * Ashen nods |
| 13:48 | <Ashen> | that's usual. |
| 13:49 | <Ashen> | I had a theory its ethernet interfaces might be down |
| 13:49 | | * Ashen tries all of them |
| 13:50 | <@caker> | I don't think that is the problem |
| 13:50 | <@caker> | It's spinning at 100% cpu ... |
| 13:50 | <Ashen> | I'm inclined to agree, they all seem down. |
| 13:51 | <Ashen> | can you somehow list it's internal processes? |
| 13:51 | <@caker> | not really, I can only cat files in proc -- like stat and swaps |
| 13:51 | | * jax-work is away: I'm busy |
| 13:51 | | * jax-work is away: I'm busy |
| 13:51 | | * jax-work is back (gone 00:00:04) |
| 13:51 | <@caker> | and I can't walk the tree to see what processes are there either |
| 13:51 | <Ashen> | I don't know if your shelling would work given it's current state, but is there some way you can look inside? |
| 13:51 | <Ashen> | hrm. |
| 13:51 | | * Ashen thinks |
| 13:51 | <@caker> | the odd thing is, I have a method to 'pause' the UML (basically, it makes the schedular go into an idle loop) |
| 13:52 | <@caker> | and even when I was able to pause it successfully, it still was spinning at 100% cpu |
| 13:52 | <Ashen> | hrm |
| 13:52 | <@caker> | which "is a bad thing" |
| 13:52 | <Ashen> | could it be a UML bug? |
| 13:52 | <Ashen> | lol |
| 13:52 | <Ashen> | yes :) |
| 13:52 | <@caker> | Possibly, but from if it is, I haven't seen or heard anyhting like this, and I follow UML pretty closely |
| 13:53 | <Ashen> | hm |
| 13:53 | <tjfontaine> | caker++ |
| 13:53 | <Ashen> | any ideas about what it could be? |
| 13:53 | <@caker> | not much to go on .. but, you've had this problem before, so it's reproducable at lest |
| 13:53 | <@caker> | least |
| 13:53 | <Ashen> | yeah |
| 13:53 | <Ashen> | hehe |
| 13:54 | <Ashen> | it happening over and over again isn't much comfort :) |
| 13:54 | <@caker> | .. what distro? |
| 13:54 | <Ashen> | RH9 |
| 13:54 | <Ashen> | large |
| 13:54 | | * EFudd only produces issues that can be resolved in < 5 real working minutes |
| 13:54 | | * EFudd uber |
| 13:55 | <Ashen> | o.O |
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| 13:57 | <@caker> | Ashen: time to reboot it |
| 13:57 | <Ashen> | yeah |
| 13:57 | <Ashen> | you still have it paused? |
| 13:57 | <Ashen> | (and therefore my pressing reboot won't do anything?) |
| 13:58 | <@caker> | no, use the reboot from the website |
| 13:58 | <Ashen> | issued. |
| 14:02 | <@caker> | hrm -- your uml process zombied |
| 14:04 | <Ashen> | how is that possible? |
| 14:04 | <@caker> | ok, it should reboot now |
| 14:04 | <Ashen> | :) |
| 14:04 | <@caker> | because I attached to it with gdb |
| 14:04 | <Ashen> | I was worried when I saw the 'Boot - Failed' |
| 14:06 | <@caker> | Ashen: keep an eye on kernel messages/console/dmesg -- and maybe run a vmstat 1 in another window for a bit |
| 14:07 | <@caker> | see if anything goes weird before it does this |
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| 14:09 | | * Ashen leaves vmstat 1 running |
| 14:10 | <@caker> | is it something evil one of your users is doing? |
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| 14:11 | <eurozip> | caker, do I need dhcpcd? |
| 14:11 | <tjfontaine> | on first boot eth0 is set to dhcp |
| 14:11 | <@caker> | eurozip: not unless you setup your eth devices 'manually' |
| 14:11 | <eurozip> | iface_eth0="dhcp" |
| 14:11 | <@caker> | that should have read: not if you setup your eth devices manually |
| 14:11 | <eurozip> | I mean, do I get my ip from dhcp on my linode |
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| 14:12 | <@caker> | With the current setup, yes -- but all your IPs are assigned statically |
| 14:12 | <eurozip> | ok |
| 14:12 | <Ashen> | caker: I don't think so... what's the point of destroying your own abilities? but I'll check the logs anyway. |
| 14:17 | <Ashen> | do you think changing my kernel would help? |
| 14:18 | <@caker> | Ashen: the linode12 one is the lastest, and should has loads of fixes over previous kerns |
| 14:18 | | * caker notes his poor typing today |
| 14:19 | <Ashen> | hm |
| 14:20 | <Ashen> | caker: my ring buffer only exists as far back as the restart (seems obvious hunh? :) so I don't know what I can get out of that. |
| 14:20 | <Ashen> | I'm going to change my logging program |
| 14:20 | <Ashen> | to log more stuff. |
| 14:20 | | * Ashen thinks |
| 14:21 | | * Ashen already has ker.* /var/log/kernel |
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| 14:39 | <tjfontaine> | lish++ |
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| 15:06 | <@guinea-pig> | sighup: g7 gp |
| 15:06 | <sighup> | #G7 stats for gp, the Emperor of New England -- Current Level: 32 | Time to next level: 0 days, 11:55:57 | Status: online | Item Total: 283 | Total Time Idled: 5 days, 01:06:55 |
| 15:06 | <@guinea-pig> | mmm |
| 15:07 | | * tjfontaine thinks the rdns dns server needs updated :-) |
| 15:07 | <tjfontaine> | sighup: dns getsweaaa.com |
| 15:07 | <sighup> | tjfontaine: getsweaaa.com is 64.62.190.72 |
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| 15:07 | <tjfontaine> | hrm |
| 15:07 | <tjfontaine> | so does sighup's cache hehe |
| 15:08 | <slacker> | if i host more than one web page do i have to have more than one ip on linode? |
| 15:08 | <tjfontaine> | no |
| 15:08 | <EFudd> | www.apache.org, read on virtual servers. |
| 15:08 | <tjfontaine> | httpd.apache.org :-) |
| 15:09 | <slacker> | k |
| 15:09 | <EFudd> | It is clearly explained there. |
| 15:09 | <slacker> | k |
| 15:11 | <tjfontaine> | caker++ lish++ linode++ |
| 15:14 | <slacker> | when i add a ip will have to devide my drive up in any fashion or will it be just like i have now with one? i know i have to reboot |
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| 15:15 | | * Julie_ just signed up. |
| 15:15 | <Julie_> | :-) |
| 15:15 | <tjfontaine> | slacker: no you won't need to divide your drive up |
| 15:15 | <tjfontaine> | congrats julie! |
| 15:16 | <slacker> | k |
| 15:17 | | * tjfontaine tacks another one beside his referral count |
| 15:17 | <Julie_> | I listed you as the reason |
| 15:17 | <tjfontaine> | caker: how bout that referral program ;-) |
| 15:17 | <tjfontaine> | hehe |
| 15:18 | <slacker> | i seen there was a problem when adding a ip that you have to rest your main ip will that be everytime you add ip |
| 15:18 | <slacker> | correctin reset |
| 15:19 | <tjfontaine> | slacker: you just need to manually set your ips instead of using dhcp |
| 15:19 | <slacker> | everytime |
| 15:28 | | * Julie_ looks over the list of distros she can choose from. |
| 15:29 | | * guinea-pig waves |
| 15:29 | | * guinea-pig points at debian and gentoo while waving |
| 15:29 | <tjfontaine> | lots of fun stuff, I'm using the mdk version currently... caker just needs some help to get the 'small' version trimmed down |
| 15:29 | <tjfontaine> | guinea-pig: perhaps you should /whois :-D |
| 15:29 | <@guinea-pig> | Julie_: ever used linux before? |
| 15:30 | <@guinea-pig> | uh, so? :P |
| 15:30 | <Julie_> | guinea-pig: since 1993 |
| 15:30 | <@guinea-pig> | aha |
| 15:30 | <@guinea-pig> | are you in boston? |
| 15:30 | <Julie_> | I've actually given talks on linux |
| 15:30 | <@guinea-pig> | ah, cool |
| 15:30 | <Julie_> | I'm an hour west of boston |
| 15:30 | <@guinea-pig> | heh |
| 15:30 | <@guinea-pig> | me too |
| 15:30 | <Julie_> | Northampton |
| 15:30 | <@guinea-pig> | oh that's further west |
| 15:31 | <@guinea-pig> | but closer to the highway |
| 15:31 | <@guinea-pig> | :P |
| 15:31 | <inkblot> | i am also west of boston |
| 15:31 | <@guinea-pig> | inkblot: shut up |
| 15:31 | <@guinea-pig> | :D |
| 15:31 | <Julie_> | wow, New England rocks |
| 15:31 | <inkblot> | about a thousand miles |
| 15:31 | <inkblot> | chicago++ |
| 15:31 | <@guinea-pig> | indeed |
| 15:31 | <@guinea-pig> | chicago is too big to visit once |
| 15:32 | <@guinea-pig> | as is most of the country. |
| 15:32 | <inkblot> | yes |
| 15:32 | <inkblot> | it is |
| 15:32 | | * guinea-pig plans a return trip |
| 15:32 | <inkblot> | i have lived here for six years and seen less than 5% of this place |
| 15:32 | <Julie_> | I'm planning a trip to Seattle soon |
| 15:32 | <@guinea-pig> | i've never heard anything about seattle (this is of course, a lie) |
| 15:33 | | * tjfontaine pokes caker |
| 15:34 | <@guinea-pig> | mmm |
| 15:34 | <@guinea-pig> | i require ddr. i cannot help it |
| 15:38 | | * tjfontaine goes to figure out what he screwed up |
| 15:41 | <inkblot> | dansk dansk revolución |
| 15:46 | | * caker attacks 2.6 |
| 15:47 | <@caker> | and a ginger ale |
| 15:49 | <Julie_> | I can reinstall at any time? |
| 15:49 | <Julie_> | if I manage to mess things up badly playing... |
| 15:50 | <@caker> | Julie_: yes -- you can have a few distros deployed at the same time, if you manage your space |
| 15:50 | <Julie_> | ah cool |
| 15:50 | <Julie_> | how Do I choose which one is running? |
| 15:50 | <@caker> | You select the config profile when at boot time |
| 15:50 | <Julie_> | ah, neat |
| 15:50 | <@caker> | MAN my typing is bad today |
| 15:51 | <tjfontaine> | caker == drunkard |
| 15:52 | <inkblot> | you said it's *giner* ale, right/ |
| 15:52 | <inkblot> | ? |
| 15:52 | <inkblot> | har! |
| 15:52 | <inkblot> | ginger |
| 15:52 | <@caker> | as far as you'll ever know :) |
| 15:52 | <EFudd> | don't trust caker. |
| 15:52 | <EFudd> | he'll reboot you |
| 15:52 | <EFudd> | and blame it on someone else. |
| 15:52 | <tjfontaine> | heh |
| 15:53 | <tjfontaine> | I must have done something silly with my eth0:1 |
| 15:54 | <@caker> | tjfontaine: did you save your config after purchasing the IP? |
| 15:54 | <tjfontaine> | bah, don't be ridiculous :-) |
| 15:54 | <tjfontaine> | heh |
| 15:57 | <tjfontaine> | gracias senor caker++ |
| 15:59 | <Quik> | caker: do we get discounts if we have a lot of IPs? :x |
| 15:59 | <@caker> | Quik: like your own class c? |
| 15:59 | <tjfontaine> | heh |
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| 16:01 | <Quik> | lol, perhaps not on that much of a scale |
| 16:01 | <Quik> | i was thinking more 15+ |
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| 16:08 | <Julie_> | weird |
| 16:08 | <Julie_> | when I logged into host12.linode.com and rebooted my server I got kicked out of the console |
| 16:08 | <Julie_> | sig 9 |
| 16:08 | <slacker> | anybody know how find the apache test page i cant find it |
| 16:08 | <slacker> | i want to edit i |
| 16:08 | <tjfontaine> | oh thats normal :-) |
| 16:09 | <slacker> | i want to edit it |
| 16:09 | <EFudd> | slacker, I highly suggest you utilize the documentation on www.apache.org |
| 16:09 | <EFudd> | You will soon get "RTFM" for responses. |
| 16:09 | <EFudd> | If you don't know where it is, you can check the config file to find the location though. |
| 16:10 | <EFudd> | If you don't know where the config file is, you can check the init scripts. |
| 16:10 | <slacker> | thanks |
| 16:10 | <EFudd> | IF you don't know where the init scripts are, you should continue reading. :) |
| 16:10 | <EFudd> | Linux/Unix isn't a "quick pick up" |
| 16:10 | <EFudd> | assuming no previous experience with various unices at least. |
| 16:10 | <slacker> | you told me what i need |
| 16:10 | <slacker> | thanks |
| 16:12 | <EFudd> | Someone else might be more patient in their answers.. so I apologize if I seem rude. :) |
| 16:12 | <Julie_> | now it seems to be working |
| 16:12 | <tjfontaine> | sighup: excuse? |
| 16:12 | <sighup> | Your excuse is: virus attack, luser responsible |
| 16:12 | <jax-work> | that's awesome |
| 16:13 | <tjfontaine> | sighup: answer? |
| 16:13 | <sighup> | answer is 42 |
| 16:14 | <slacker> | nah i understand your pointing me in the right direction that is all i need |
| 16:14 | <EFudd> | IF you run into something that is actually a "problem", I'm generaly more than willing to help. |
| 16:16 | <slacker> | i have been using noting but graphics in windows and linux now i am working all in shell feels like i got blind folded |
| 16:17 | <EFudd> | :-) |
| 16:17 | <slacker> | but fun as hell |
| 16:18 | <jax-work> | welcome to the shell world |
| 16:18 | <slacker> | i am in jax |
| 16:18 | <slacker> | fl |
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| 16:24 | <@guinea-pig> | it's not a blindfold, so much as it is the loss of useless eye candy |
| 16:25 | <@guinea-pig> | you can do a *lot* more from the shell than you can with gui frontends |
| 16:25 | <EFudd> | guinea-pig++ |
| 16:25 | <@guinea-pig> | since gui frontends tend to dumb things down, and limit your options |
| 16:25 | <jax-work> | definately guinea-pig++ |
| 16:26 | <jax-work> | i finally switched my desktops to linux, and all X is for is to have _many_ eterms open |
| 16:26 | <EFudd> | yup |
| 16:26 | <EFudd> | :) |
| 16:26 | <EFudd> | s/et/xt/ |
| 16:27 | <inkblot> | i only ever run aterm, mozilla, and xmms |
| 16:27 | <@guinea-pig> | gnome-terminal, galeon, xmms |
| 16:27 | <@caker> | real men use gettys |
| 16:27 | <@guinea-pig> | i use mingetty in bed |
| 16:28 | <inkblot> | man |
| 16:28 | <@caker> | you really want to admit that? |
| 16:28 | <tjfontaine> | epiphany! |
| 16:28 | <inkblot> | i don't remember who suggested it on the forum |
| 16:28 | <inkblot> | but "apache -S" cooks my emergency bacon |
| 16:28 | <@guinea-pig> | oh? |
| 16:28 | <@guinea-pig> | you'd think emergency bacon would be precooked |
| 16:28 | <EFudd> | caker, until ~98ish, all I used was console F1-F12 and a hacked CTRL F1-F12 :) |
| 16:29 | <inkblot> | wouldn't be much of an emergency, then, would it? |
| 16:29 | <@caker> | nice |
| 16:32 | -!- | julia [julia@li3-148.members.linode.com] has joined #linode |
| 16:49 | | * mikegrb points Julia in the direction of #g7 |
| 16:50 | <tjfontaine> | heh |
| 16:51 | -!- | adamg is now known as adamgent |
| 16:51 | -!- | mode/#linode [+o adamgent] by ChanServ |
| 16:51 | -!- | adamgent is now known as adamg |
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| 17:18 | <tjfontaine> | caker: you know what another nice little bar we could see on our linode control page would be host current bandwidth usage |
| 17:19 | <@caker> | tjfontaine: i guess mrtg graphs would show you the last 5 min avg .. |
| 17:19 | <tjfontaine> | caker: of the host as a whole, or just my node |
| 17:20 | <@caker> | tjfontaine: most ppl who want them do it on their own, I assume -- but, I'd like to provide all sorts of graphs, etc eventually |
| 17:20 | <@caker> | i see |
| 17:20 | <tjfontaine> | just soemthing I'd be interested in occasionally |
| 17:20 | <tjfontaine> | (non essential superficial features)++ |
| 17:20 | <@caker> | do you think your b/w is affected by other users on the same host? |
| 17:21 | <tjfontaine> | no, but it would be interesting if I could see it :-) |
| 17:21 | <@caker> | yeah :) |
| 17:21 | <@caker> | sighup: linode avail |
| 17:21 | <sighup> | Linode availability -- [Linode 64: 24] [Linode 96: 16] [Linode 128: 0] [Linode 192: 0] [Linode 256: 0] |
| 17:22 | <@caker> | sighup: linode avail |
| 17:22 | <sighup> | Linode availability -- [Linode 64: 24] [Linode 96: 16] [Linode 128: 1] [Linode 192: 0] [Linode 256: 0] |
| 17:22 | <tjfontaine> | heh |
| 17:24 | <@caker> | lxr is great |
| 17:30 | <@mikegrb> | (online pizza ordering)++ |
| 17:30 | <@mikegrb> | (online pizza ordering)++ |
| 17:30 | <@mikegrb> | (online pizza ordering)++ |
| 17:30 | <@mikegrb> | (online pizza ordering)++ |
| 17:30 | <tjfontaine> | no doubt |
| 17:30 | <tjfontaine> | (papa johns)++ |
| 17:30 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 17:30 | <@mikegrb> | just ordered |
| 17:31 | <tjfontaine> | oy shorewall don't be so ridiculous |
| 17:33 | <@mikegrb> | iptables++ |
| 17:33 | <@mikegrb> | shorewall-- |
| 17:34 | <tjfontaine> | heh |
| 17:34 | <@mikegrb> | papa john's little email announcements for specials are the only such emails I don't consider spam :D |
| 18:07 | | * EFudd sighs as he looks at housing prices |
| 18:17 | -!- | jye [~a@195.229.241.229] has joined #linode |
| 18:28 | <jye> | hello |
| 18:28 | <tjfontaine> | hi ho |
| 18:28 | <@caker> | hello |
| 18:28 | <jax> | *nod* |
| 18:29 | <jye> | i have php4.2.2 with redhat |
| 18:29 | <jye> | i need update version |
| 18:29 | <jye> | but when compiled |
| 18:29 | <jye> | checking whether ln -s works... yes |
| 18:29 | <jye> | checking for gawk... gawk |
| 18:29 | <jye> | checking for bison... no |
| 18:29 | <jye> | checking for byacc... no |
| 18:29 | <jye> | configure: warning: You will need bison if you want to regenerate the PHP parsers. |
| 18:29 | <jye> | checking for flex... lex |
| 18:29 | <jye> | checking for yywrap in -ll... no |
| 18:29 | <jye> | checking lex output file root... ./configure: line 2432: lex: command not found |
| 18:29 | <jye> | configure: error: cannot find output from lex; giving up |
| 18:29 | <tjfontaine> | please don't flood |
| 18:30 | <tjfontaine> | you need to install lex then |
| 18:30 | <@mikegrb> | hello |
| 18:30 | <@mikegrb> | damn! late |
| 18:30 | | * caker fixes bridging in 2.6 !!!! <---- |
| 18:30 | <tjfontaine> | fixes or fixed? |
| 18:30 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 18:30 | <jye> | what is lex? |
| 18:30 | | * caker fix0rED |
| 18:30 | <tjfontaine> | caker++ :-) |
| 18:30 | <@mikegrb> | caker++ |
| 18:30 | <tjfontaine> | hehe |
| 18:30 | <@mikegrb> | caker++ |
| 18:30 | <@mikegrb> | caker++ |
| 18:30 | <@mikegrb> | caker++ |
| 18:30 | <@mikegrb> | caker++ |
| 18:30 | <@mikegrb> | caker++ |
| 18:30 | <tjfontaine> | uh oh guinea-pig's gonna kick you |
| 18:30 | | * caker moshes with you |
| 18:31 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 18:31 | <tjfontaine> | jye: see rpm.pbone.net to find a lex rpm |
| 18:31 | <jye> | ok |
| 18:32 | <tjfontaine> | you should be able to find an updated php ready and waiting for you as well |
| 18:32 | <@caker> | jye: apt-get install flex |
| 18:32 | <tjfontaine> | eww apt4rpm ;-) |
| 18:36 | <@caker> | all because the bridge code doesn't think it's a local addy |
| 18:36 | <@caker> | since the taps on the host are set to 0.0.0.0 |
| 18:44 | <@adamg> | how easy is snort to setup? |
| 18:45 | <EFudd> | snort requires some clue. |
| 18:46 | <EFudd> | it isn't "easy" just by the nature of the types of concept it is designed to stop. |
| 18:46 | <EFudd> | there are a few good books on snort too.... |
| 18:46 | <@adamg> | just need a good ids |
| 18:47 | <tjfontaine> | usually distros like mdk provide decent out of the box configs |
| 18:47 | <EFudd> | snort is a good ids |
| 18:47 | <EFudd> | it requires proper setup though. |
| 18:47 | <@adamg> | they seem to have a lot of premade rules for it |
| 18:48 | <@adamg> | and I like the look of acid |
| 18:55 | <@caker> | debian's netselect is pretty smoothe |
| 18:55 | <@adamg> | so it looks like using snort, iptables and acid would be a good way to go |
| 18:59 | <EFudd> | a proper IDS shouldn't be able to send :P |
| 19:02 | <@adamg> | ? |
| 19:04 | <EFudd> | it should only have 1 pair of copper going to it |
| 19:04 | <EFudd> | receive only |
| 19:04 | <EFudd> | inability to transmit |
| 19:04 | <@adamg> | but that would not be much use |
| 19:05 | <EFudd> | uh |
| 19:05 | <EFudd> | yes it would |
| 19:06 | <@adamg> | how |
| 19:06 | <EFudd> | it's job is to *WATCH* for packets |
| 19:06 | <EFudd> | :-) |
| 19:06 | <EFudd> | by not being able to send, it can't be compromised. |
| 19:07 | <@adamg> | true, since it listens at the packet layer it does not care where data is been sent to, but wouldnt switches not send data to it, since they are not addressed to it |
| 19:07 | <@mikegrb> | EFudd++ |
| 19:08 | <@mikegrb> | swtiches can be told to |
| 19:08 | <@mikegrb> | switches can be sent to mirror all packets to a port for monitoring |
| 19:08 | <EFudd> | Yeah. Kinda. |
| 19:08 | <@adamg> | so send all packets to this ip |
| 19:08 | <EFudd> | I prefer half the wires cut. |
| 19:09 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 19:09 | <@adamg> | yeah but you still have to redirect the packets to the ids some how |
| 19:09 | <EFudd> | that's just fine. |
| 19:09 | <EFudd> | :) |
| 19:09 | <@caker> | the cisco switches can mirror all traffic from one port to another -- for monitoring |
| 19:09 | <EFudd> | tap, mirror, inline |
| 19:09 | <EFudd> | one thing to be aware of is this |
| 19:09 | <@adamg> | intresting |
| 19:10 | <EFudd> | you limit the total backbone throughput of all mirrored ports to the maximum capabilities of the port mirrored to. |
| 19:10 | <@adamg> | not much use under linode though |
| 19:10 | <EFudd> | ie, 10 100bt's mirrored to 1 100bt limits throughput to 100bt |
| 19:10 | <EFudd> | on cisco's at least. |
| 19:11 | <@adamg> | far to OTT for what I need at the momment though |
| 19:11 | <EFudd> | "too" |
| 19:11 | <EFudd> | :P |
| 19:11 | <@adamg> | its late |
| 19:11 | <EFudd> | <- pedantic |
| 19:11 | <EFudd> | on conf call now tho |
| 19:11 | <EFudd> | afk a few |
| 19:11 | <@caker> | I think it's time for tacos |
| 19:12 | <@mikegrb> | tacos++ |
| 19:12 | | * caker gives you a taco |
| 19:12 | <@adamg> | all I need for now is a way to keep people out and to see who is trying to get in |
| 19:12 | <@mikegrb> | caker, are you married? |
| 19:12 | <@caker> | "roommate" |
| 19:12 | | * mikegrb devowers it |
| 19:12 | <@mikegrb> | ic |
| 19:12 | <@adamg> | well when you stay up till 4 in the morning playing with servers what do you expect |
| 19:13 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 19:13 | <@caker> | She gives me grief about it a little, but she understands |
| 19:18 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 19:18 | <@mikegrb> | the greif heidi gives me went down noticably when I handed here a laptop with wifi and xchat |
| 19:20 | <EFudd> | heh. |
| 19:20 | <EFudd> | my fiance doesn't really use the computer for anything other than card games |
| 19:21 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 19:21 | <@mikegrb> | she was the same way before |
| 19:21 | <@mikegrb> | now she even talks to friends on irc now |
| 19:22 | <@guinea-pig> | may i just say i'm rather pissed right now |
| 19:22 | <@mikegrb> | yes you may |
| 19:23 | <@guinea-pig> | my pain-in-the-ass-to-find lowe density rambus has croaked |
| 19:23 | <@guinea-pig> | apparantly |
| 19:23 | <@mikegrb> | oh |
| 19:23 | <@guinea-pig> | address 000000004b0 is failing just about every memtest check |
| 19:24 | <@guinea-pig> | hell |
| 19:24 | <@guinea-pig> | i may as well just buy a new mobo |
| 19:24 | <@guinea-pig> | and cpu |
| 19:24 | <@guinea-pig> | and case |
| 19:24 | <@guinea-pig> | ... |
| 19:25 | <@guinea-pig> | i'm pissed |
| 19:25 | <@guinea-pig> | :d |
| 19:29 | <@guinea-pig> | mikegrb: what's the "55" in the #g7 topic? |
| 19:30 | <@mikegrb> | max number of idlers |
| 19:30 | <@mikegrb> | :) |
| 19:30 | <@guinea-pig> | heh |
| 19:30 | <@mikegrb> | just for me |
| 19:30 | <@guinea-pig> | ok. 114 errors on that one address alone (and no other errors) for the first pass |
| 19:31 | <@guinea-pig> | sigh |
| 19:31 | <@guinea-pig> | and i'm watching memtest86 on dual-heads, too. creepy |
| 19:31 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 19:32 | <@mikegrb> | you know you might be a geek when you sit watching memtest |
| 19:32 | <@adamg> | oh well time to get some sleep |
| 19:32 | <@adamg> | nite all |
| 19:33 | <@mikegrb> | cya |
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| 20:12 | <jye> | where is the apache in the redhat ? |
| 20:12 | <jye> | need config them for the php.. |
| 20:17 | -!- | julia [julia@li3-148.members.linode.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] |
| 20:17 | -!- | julia [julia@li3-148.members.linode.com] has joined #linode |
| 20:24 | <@mikegrb> | irssi :) |
| 20:24 | <tjfontaine> | she wants her rdns right, so reload your dns buddy :-) |
| 20:24 | <@mikegrb> | bah |
| 20:24 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 20:25 | <@mikegrb> | one sec |
| 20:25 | <@mikegrb> | done |
| 20:25 | <@mikegrb> | now the question is.... is it there, me checks |
| 20:26 | <@mikegrb> | 148.190.62.64.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer morn.mornhyland.org. |
| 20:26 | <@mikegrb> | yup |
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| 20:27 | <tjfontaine> | Julia: rdns is updated for you |
| 20:35 | <julia> | oh cool |
| 20:35 | <julia> | let me play |
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| 20:36 | <inkblot> | (cache) (cache) |
| 20:36 | | * mikegrb controles the dns cache of the irc server she is connecting to :d |
| 20:36 | <@mikegrb> | er :D |
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| 20:36 | <julia> | Thanks so much |
| 20:36 | <@mikegrb> | np |
| 20:36 | <tjfontaine> | you paid for the service, thats what you get :-) |
| 20:37 | <@caker> | I'm a thinking it's time to test 2.6 on host4 |
| 20:38 | <tjfontaine> | --> CSLANkilla (~chatzilla@66.67.182.143) has joined #xbox-linux <snip> <CSLANkilla> do u guys have Linux on urs? |
| 20:38 | <tjfontaine> | <dmp> erm.. No. We just talk about it... |
| 20:38 | <tjfontaine> | <dmp> OF COURSE WE DO |
| 20:39 | <tjfontaine> | just a common question that happens at least 1 billion times a day |
| 20:40 | <inkblot> | ha ha |
| 21:19 | <@caker> | Quik, wap, eurozip: I sent a notice to those on host4 regarding the reboot |
| 21:20 | <@mikegrb> | caker: uml is being used to port xbox-linux kernel stuff to 2.6 :) |
| 21:20 | <@caker> | that's great -- I thought about using it to debug the bridge issues |
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| 21:44 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 21:44 | | * mikegrb wishes he was a netop |
| 21:45 | <@mikegrb> | /kill kenny I killed kenny |
| 21:45 | <@mikegrb> | :) |
| 21:45 | <kenny> | nohup kenny |
| 21:45 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 22:00 | <EFudd> | A 20-year-old college student from Long Island has been charged with |
| 22:00 | <EFudd> | disorderly conduct after he ran into a Native American Studies class |
| 22:00 | <EFudd> | wearing a toy headdress and shot a rubber-tipped arrow at the |
| 22:00 | <EFudd> | instructor while shouting, "Go back to your own country". |
| 22:00 | <@mikegrb> | hahahahahahahahaha |
| 22:00 | <@mikegrb> | that is funny |
| 22:01 | <@caker> | all right! qbatqbat_0: no IPv6 routers present |
| 22:02 | <@caker> | br0: topology change detected, propgating |
| 22:02 | <@caker> | br0: port 5(bjohnson_0) entering forwarding state |
| 22:02 | <@caker> | device dmuench_0 entered promiscuous mode |
| 22:02 | <@caker> | br0: port 6(dmuench_0) entering learning state |
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| 22:02 | -!- | mode/#linode [+o caker] by ChanServ |
| 22:02 | <@caker> | erm, well excuse me |
| 22:02 | <@caker> | That was supposed to be one line :( |
| 22:04 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 22:05 | <kenny> | you guys are weird. i think i need to go back to stalking the forums. |
| 22:05 | <EFudd> | you do. |
| 22:05 | | * EFudd just being agreeable |
| 22:07 | <@caker> | anyone guess which kernel host4 is running now? |
| 22:08 | <kenny> | the linux kernel? |
| 22:08 | <@caker> | You win! |
| 22:08 | <EFudd> | 2.6! |
| 22:08 | <@mikegrb> | 2.7 |
| 22:08 | <@mikegrb> | ? |
| 22:09 | <@caker> | back to the orig 2.4 |
| 22:09 | <@caker> | it bugged on 3 of the 15 linodes |
| 22:10 | <@mikegrb> | that sux0rs |
| 22:11 | <kenny> | is anyone using the 2.6 on their linode? |
| 22:13 | <kenny> | i've heard rumors that ext2 acls where in 2.6, which would be very nice. i've been switch my linode over to debian so i might give it a try before pointing dns back. |
| 22:14 | <@caker> | kenny: I still need to make and test a newer 2.6 UML kernel |
| 22:14 | <@caker> | kenny |
| 22:16 | <kenny> | if you do (no rush, there already is one) i'd be more then happy to try it out.. or anything else crazy before i change dns back. |
| 22:18 | | * EFudd suggests MonkeyBalls(tm) |
| 22:35 | -!- | ryno[ZzZz] [~dyne_user@12.248.224.6] has joined #linode |
| 22:35 | <ryno[ZzZz]> | hi |
| 22:35 | <ryno[ZzZz]> | so one hour? |
| 22:35 | -!- | ryno[ZzZz] was kicked from #linode by mikegrb [don't take it here, that is offtopic here] |
| 22:36 | <@mikegrb> | sorry folks |
| 22:36 | <tjfontaine> | should have just /ignore'd him |
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| 22:52 | <ryno> | ass |
| 22:52 | -!- | mode/#linode [+b *!*ryno@12.248.224.*] by mikegrb |
| 22:52 | -!- | ryno was kicked from #linode by mikegrb [ryno] |
| 22:52 | <heidi> | fucker |
| 22:52 | <@mikegrb> | sorry folks |
| 22:52 | <@mikegrb> | heidi please |
| 22:55 | | * EFudd ponders wtf ! |
| 22:55 | <@mikegrb> | yes |
| 22:56 | <@mikegrb> | started with him getting kick banned from xbox linux |
| 22:57 | <@mikegrb> | then he joined everychannel I am in |
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| 23:50 | <kenny> | exit |
| 23:50 | <kenny> | duh |
| 23:50 | <kenny> | hehe, was closing sessions and just assumed focus would switch to the next one. |
| 23:50 | <@mikegrb> | heh oops |
| 23:50 | <@mikegrb> | I do that |
| 23:54 | <kenny> | not as bad as typing passwords on a commandline because you've screwed up the su command somehow (i do this often). |
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