TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#linode:2003:11:05

---	Log	opened Wed Nov 05 00:00:02 2003
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03:10	<wap>	morning
03:10	<@caker>	evening :)
03:10	<wap>	;)
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05:46	<@adamgent>	morning all
05:50	<wap>	g'morning
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06:44	<wap>	If I want to find all files that contains the string "blob" on my system, I need to use "grep -r blob". Am I right here?
06:45	<sunny>	grep -r $dir -H -i -e "blob"
06:45	<sunny>	note: it will crash your linode
06:45	<wap>	heh
06:46	<sunny>	no joke
06:46	<sunny>	unless $dir is *NOT the root dir .... eventually grep will get to /dev/kmem and crash your system
06:47	<wap>	sunny: thanks
06:49	<sunny>	caker: maybe the /dev/kmem issue could be avoided by using DevFS ?
06:51	<wap>	sunny: caker must be sleeping at this time ;)
06:51	<@adamgent>	well it is about 7am over there
06:52	<sunny>	wap: well it doesn't matter too much being that he should see my message whenever he wakes up, heh
06:52	<wap>	there = east coast ?
06:52	<wap>	sunny: yep
06:53	<@adamgent>	east cost is 5 hours different to gmt
06:54	<wap>	for some reason I thought caker was living more to the west heh stupid me
06:55	<@adamgent>	he might be cant remember
06:55	<wap>	where are you guys from? Paris, France here
06:55	<@adamgent>	he is in nashville
06:56	<@adamgent>	england
06:56	<@adamgent>	nashville is est
06:58	<sunny>	New York
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07:25	<sunny>	caker: I'm going back to that old .22 kernel
07:25	<sunny>	this new .23 kernel is crap
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09:16	<wap>	caker: ping?
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10:15	<@adamgent>	damm net connections
10:15	<@mikegrb>	indeed
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10:23	<@adamgent>	hi yosssi
10:23	<yosssi>	hello
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10:51	<@mikegrb>	heh
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11:03	<@mikegrb>	hello
11:04		* Schalke04 Re
11:04	<@adamgent>	hi
11:04	<Schalke04>	hallo
11:04	<Schalke04>	es scheint mir so enteressant dass jemand hier auch spicht
11:05	<Schalke04>	was ein server hier f�r hab noch nicht verstanden
11:05	<sunny>	wir stimmen
11:05	<Schalke04>	:)
11:06	<Schalke04>	ich muss jetzt los
11:06	<Schalke04>	hasta luego
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11:07	<sunny>	mein deutsch ist sehr schlecht
11:07	<sunny>	doh, he left
11:07	<@adamgent>	well at least you know what he was saying
11:07	<sunny>	barely
11:07	<@mikegrb>	was he telling us we smell funny?
11:07	<sunny>	his last statement was spanish, heh
11:07	<sunny>	"see you later"
11:07	<@mikegrb>	yha I noticed that <g>
11:08	<@adamgent>	i though it was german, oh well
11:08	<sunny>	no, he said he was pleased to find people here
11:08	<sunny>	adamgent: it was german, except for the last sentence
11:08	<@adamgent>	oh
11:10	<@adamgent>	i'll stick with english
11:11	<sunny>	me too, but I'm trying really hard to make my german better
11:11	<@adamgent>	i studied it for 5 years at school and can not remember any of it
11:12	<sunny>	haha, I used to live in germany ... but had to study spanish in the USA
11:28	<@adamgent>	only 1 linode 64 left
11:55	<@adamgent>	caker: you about yet
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12:20	<@adamgent>	god damm fireworks
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15:51	<EFudd>	hi
15:51	<EFudd>	Incoming Matrix Spoiler.
15:51	<EFudd>	Turns out, there IS a spoon!
16:00	<Quik>	saw that today :)
16:00	<EFudd>	HEre's my official review.
16:00	<EFudd>	Don't see part 3, forget you saw part 2, enjoy that you saw part 1.
16:01	<Quik>	aww
16:01	<@caker>	That's kind of what I was thinking :(
16:01	<@caker>	hello, btw
16:01	<Quik>	lo caker :)
16:01	<@caker>	Hard to top the first movie
16:01	<@caker>	I haven't seen #3 yet, though :)
16:01	<Quik>	i thought they were all good really, your expectations after #1 are too high though
16:01	<@caker>	Yeah .. second one seemed repetitive
16:02	<@caker>	Same shots/scenes/fights
16:02	<@adamgent>	will be going to see it at the weekend
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16:03	<@caker>	hello sogster
16:03	<sogster>	hi
16:05	<Quik>	i recommend it to all of ya :)
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16:13	<neuonyx>	matrix
16:13	<neuonyx>	:(
16:15	<EFudd>	i gotta see it again tonight w/ friends
16:15		* EFudd sighs
16:15	<neuonyx>	yeah
16:15	<EFudd>	I think i'm gonna have an emergency.
16:15	<neuonyx>	im going to re-watch 1 and 2 at home tommoro
16:15	<neuonyx>	then go see 3 again tommoro i think
16:15	<EFudd>	i'm about to hit play on 2.
16:17	<eurozip>	so 3 sucked?
16:17	<eurozip>	neuonyx, sorry bout the pasting...
16:18	<neuonyx>	eurozip: no is ok
16:18	<neuonyx>	sigh
16:18	<neuonyx>	so pissed
16:18	<neuonyx>	have to think about things
16:18	<neuonyx>	ill be back
16:18	<neuonyx>	poof
16:21	<@mikegrb>	bah
16:21	<@mikegrb>	stop talking about it
16:21		* mikegrb is going tonight
16:21	<@mikegrb>	;)
16:23	<Quik>	don't be put off by the negativity :)
16:31	<@mikegrb>	oh I want
16:31	<@mikegrb>	er
16:31	<@mikegrb>	wont
16:32	<@mikegrb>	I've had tickets since the weekend
16:38	<@guinea-pig>	whoa, matrix 3 is out?
16:38	<@adamgent>	yeah today
16:38	<@caker>	"whoa"
16:38	<@adamgent>	2pm on all time zones
16:38	<@adamgent>	s/on/in
16:39	<@guinea-pig>	damn. i've not even heard anything about it
16:39	<@guinea-pig>	since i saw 2 in the theatres
16:41	<@mikegrb>	heh
16:41	<@mikegrb>	nah adamgent it was the exact same time gmt
16:42	<@mikegrb>	it showed at 6 or 7 am at a couple of theaters here
16:42	<@adamgent>	oh
16:42	<@mikegrb>	I told my wife I wanted to move to alaska so I could see it before work
16:42	<@mikegrb>	she didn't like that idea
16:42		* Quik saw at 2pm and only got tickets yesterday :)
16:42	<@mikegrb>	heh
16:43		* mikegrb has tickets to Blue Man Group tommorow night :)
16:43		* EFudd has to see it at 8pm again tonight
16:43		* EFudd sighs
16:43	<Quik>	\o/
16:43	<@mikegrb>	EFudd: same here
16:43	<EFudd>	I dun wanna go!
16:43	<@guinea-pig>	bmg++
16:43	<@mikegrb>	guinea-pig: indeed
16:43	<@mikegrb>	very much so
16:43	<@mikegrb>	can't wait
16:43	<@guinea-pig>	mikegrb: seen them before?
16:43	<@mikegrb>	my car wasn't totaled :/
16:44	<@mikegrb>	guinea-pig: not live
16:44	<EFudd>	mike, so what happened ?
16:44	<@guinea-pig>	mikegrb: you'll love it
16:44	<@guinea-pig>	really
16:44	<@mikegrb>	lacked about $2,000 in damages
16:44	<@mikegrb>	guinea-pig: oh I know <g>
16:44	<EFudd>	sledgehammer, np .
16:44	<@mikegrb>	EFudd: that's what I'm thinking
16:44	<@mikegrb>	I forgot to leave the keys here today
16:44	<EFudd>	but so.. what hapened?: )
16:45	<@mikegrb>	so I told my wife I will break stuff he couldn't see
16:45	<@mikegrb>	I was in an accident monday on way to work
16:45	<EFudd>	rite.. saw that part. curiousity about how it occured
16:45	<@mikegrb>	have no clue what happened, heard a bang and then someone comming to door asking if I was okay
16:45	<@mikegrb>	three cars involved
16:45	<EFudd>	wow.
16:46	<EFudd>	you had 0 indication of somethin goccuring?!
16:46	<@mikegrb>	insurance company thinks the car in front of me cut me off and then slammed on breaks to not hit slower car in front of me
16:46	<@mikegrb>	heh not that I remember anyway
16:46	<@mikegrb>	er slower car in front of it
16:47	<@mikegrb>	bah, bit torrent dl I have dl'ed 1mb and uploaded 24 <g>
16:47	<@mikegrb>	pesky home users
16:48	<@mikegrb>	caker: so can I add a pending disk resize yet ;)
16:48	<@caker>	hehe not yet
16:48	<@caker>	still have to be there for it
16:48		* mikegrb thinks resize on fly with lvm is spiffy
16:48	<@mikegrb>	been playing with lvm at home lately
16:49	<@mikegrb>	added 120gb to a file system with it mounted r/w
16:49	<@caker>	Cool .. I added initrd support about a month ago -- one user wanted root lvm
16:49	<@caker>	he got things working, I believe
16:49	<@caker>	but without initrd :)
16:49	<@mikegrb>	heh
16:49	<@mikegrb>	my nightly backups are tiny blips on mrtg graphs compared to bit torrent transfer <G>
16:50	<@mikegrb>	http://thegrebs.com/stats/thegrebs.com.html
16:50	<@caker>	we got slammed w/ bandwidth at HE last month .. only two machines, too .. kinda scary :)
16:50	<@mikegrb>	oh
16:50		* mikegrb slows down ;)
16:50	<@mikegrb>	I'm suprised the irc server is not even noticable
16:50	<@caker>	well, they use 95% and you come out worse than if they tracked actual amount xfered
16:51	<@mikegrb>	though inter server links are gzip'ed
16:51	<@caker>	neat
16:51	<@mikegrb>	there is a 'lazy links' feature that will be enabled in the future
16:52	<@caker>	What's that?
16:53	<@mikegrb>	right now all data is sent to all servers, in future on data they need... so if one server doesn't have anybody in a particular channel, data for that channel wont be transmitted to that server
16:53	<@mikegrb>	it saves on bandwidth but adds to cpu
16:53	<@caker>	Smart
16:53	<neuonyx>	ok everyone in here saw matrix?
16:53	<neuonyx>	where is a non spoiler place to ask questions
16:53	<@caker>	neuonyx: the new one?
16:53	<neuonyx>	yeah
16:53	<@caker>	No, I haevn't
16:53	<@caker>	yet
16:53	<EFudd>	don't !
16:53	<neuonyx>	eurozip ?
16:53	<@mikegrb>	so at the smaller size of the network right now it is better to leave it off
16:53	<EFudd>	save your 7.95
16:53	<@adamgent>	caker: so how much bw did you use last month then
16:53	<@caker>	take your spoilers somewhere else :)
16:54	<@caker>	adamgent: 7mbit
16:54	<@caker>	at HE
16:54	<@adamgent>	you will have to start charging people for there excess usage
16:55	<@caker>	Only one person went over .. it's all a gamble
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16:55	<@mikegrb>	indeed
16:55	<@adamgent>	betting that most people do not use there allocation
16:55	<@caker>	I'll get off my soapbox in a second, but again, makes me angry that they charge so little for larger b/w commitments
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16:55	<@caker>	doesn't make any sense
16:56	<EFudd>	heh.
16:56	<@adamgent>	but it is like buying anything in bulk
16:56	<@caker>	It's worse ..
16:56	<@mikegrb>	indeed
16:56	<@caker>	because at a certain point, you pay twice for half as much, and then they'll advertise something that's TWICE that amount, for half the price ..
16:56	<@mikegrb>	it is like radio shacks markup on resistors compared to markup on a computer
16:57	<@caker>	Here's an example -- They have a "special" full rack, 15amp power, 100mbit for $2500/month
16:57	<@mikegrb>	radio shack marksup resistors in exess of 250% wheras computers are 5%
16:57		* mikegrb used to work at radio shack ;)
16:58	<@caker>	Right now I'm paying between $2-300 per m/bit
16:58	<EFudd>	100mbit of bandwidth ?!
16:58	<EFudd>	good lord .
16:58	<@adamgent>	100 meg is not a lot
16:58	<@caker>	So, with only using 6-7 mbit, that's what .. $1600 ?
16:58	<@adamgent>	yep
16:58	<@adamgent>	but how many people do you have at he
16:59	<@caker>	Not many
16:59		* mikegrb raises his hand
16:59		* mikegrb points to tjfontaine
16:59	<@caker>	Two servers -- L64 and a L128 box
16:59	<@mikegrb>	er he's not here
16:59		* guinea-sleep volunteers
16:59	<@caker>	I don't think I like 95th percentile :)
16:59	<EFudd>	adam, 100mbit is quite a bit. 1.544Mbit is 500GB/month of transfer.
17:00	<@adamgent>	not many people do
17:00	<@caker>	Especially with HE's big pipes .. easy to do massive amounts of throughput, RIGHT when they take a snapshot
17:00	<EFudd>	caker, i'm pretty sure they use mrtg or something to graph averages
17:00	<EFudd>	and drop the top 5pct
17:00	<@caker>	such a scam
17:00	<EFudd>	i don't think it's as you explained.
17:01	<@mikegrb>	I'm sure it is still a scam
17:01	<@caker>	EFudd: what do you mean?
17:02	<EFudd>	caker, 95th percentile is based on dropping the top 5pct out of your AVERAGE throughput.
17:02	<@adamgent>	they use the 95% because it makes them more money
17:02	<EFudd>	they take samples say every 5 minutes
17:02	<@caker>	Right
17:02	<EFudd>	if you are using 1mbit 98pct of the month
17:02	<@adamgent>	it is cheaper to just but a fixed pipe
17:02	<EFudd>	and during 2 samples are using 1Gbit...
17:02	<EFudd>	you will get charged on 1mbit
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17:02	<@caker>	So faster throughput means higher average, even though you might not transfer that much
17:02	<@mikegrb>	yha
17:03	<@caker>	If we peak for more than 5% of the time, it throws off the avg
17:03	<@caker>	which we do
17:03	<EFudd>	rite.
17:03	<@adamgent>	and the peaks happen whenever anyone is setting up a new linode
17:04	<@caker>	adamgent: naw, internet traffic doesn't count
17:04	<@caker>	er internal, I mean
17:04	<EFudd>	er
17:04	<EFudd>	what? o.
17:04	<EFudd>	um
17:04	<@guinea-sleep>	i was gonna say
17:04	<@guinea-sleep>	heh
17:04	<EFudd>	that's when you are gonna have traffic.
17:04	<@adamgent>	not that, but people download stuff from the net etc
17:04	<@caker>	Ahh
17:04	<@caker>	yeah
17:04	<EFudd>	local mirrors y0
17:04	<EFudd>	caker, set up mrtg on your switch ports
17:04	<EFudd>	you prolly already do ?
17:04	<EFudd>	er fok mrtg, use cricket
17:05	<@mikegrb>	would be spiffy if it was setup on the switch ports
17:05	<@mikegrb>	would lessen load on linodes
17:05	<@mikegrb>	well if users had access to graphs of their bandwidth
17:05	<EFudd>	you need to be monitoring your usage as closely as they are
17:06	<EFudd>	users can do it themselves tho
17:06	<EFudd>	if they care :)
17:06	<@adamgent>	you would have to monitor it by IP address
17:06	<EFudd>	cricket/mrtg/etc work based on pps in/out on switchports.
17:06	<EFudd>	not active monitoring of layer3 traffic
17:06	<@caker>	via smtp?
17:07	<EFudd>	yes.
17:07	<@caker>	checking out cricket
17:07	<EFudd>	snmp
17:07	<@caker>	er, yeah
17:07	<EFudd>	caker, cricket takes a while to be useful.
17:07	<@caker>	:)
17:07	<EFudd>	but set it up now, and check it in a couple of weeks.
17:07	<@adamgent>	but since multiple linodes share a single switch port, you could not monitor each one
17:07	<EFudd>	Right.
17:07	<EFudd>	He can at least know his overall.
17:07	<EFudd>	per machine, and per colo.
17:07	<@caker>	Switch port for my uplink is essentially the same thing they monitor (but on their switch)
17:07	<EFudd>	yup
17:08	<EFudd>	however, you collect data
17:08	<EFudd>	they collect data
17:08	<EFudd>	you know what to expect
17:08	<EFudd>	and can catch discrepancies
17:08	<@guinea-sleep>	mikegrb: how goes the mrtg HOWTO?
17:08	<EFudd>	fok mrtg
17:08	<EFudd>	use cricket
17:08	<@mikegrb>	oh heh haven't done it...
17:08	<EFudd>	mrtg is the old shit.
17:09	<@adamgent>	efudd: got a web link?
17:09	<@mikegrb>	guinea-sleep: basically it will be install mrtg, modify this in the config and put the config here
17:09	<EFudd>	www.google.com :)
17:09	<@guinea-sleep>	hehe
17:09	<@mikegrb>	guinea-sleep: and put this bash script there
17:09	<@guinea-sleep>	mikegrb: i really do intend to rewrite the script in C. i just ... these 10-hour work days are killing me
17:09	<EFudd>	fuck mrtg ! gdi. it's ass and not supported anymore
17:09	<@mikegrb>	guinea-sleep: it really is damn simple with a config already made for a linode
17:09	<@guinea-sleep>	mikegrb: yeah
17:10	<EFudd>	mrtg was a graphing tool and data collection tool in one
17:10	<EFudd>	it was replaced with rrdtool for the backend data store
17:10	<EFudd>	and cricket is a front end to view/collect data
17:11	<@guinea-sleep>	to each his own
17:11	<@adamgent>	http://sourceforge.net/projects/cricket/
17:11	<EFudd>	guinea, they are both by the same authoer
17:11	<@mikegrb>	there is also cacti
17:11	<EFudd>	the mrtg website says "use rrdtool instead"
17:11	<@guinea-sleep>	] apt-cache show cricket
17:11	<@guinea-sleep>	Package: cricket
17:11	<@guinea-sleep>	...
17:11	<@guinea-sleep>	:)
17:11	<EFudd>	cacti is another tool to view rrdtool's data
17:11	<@mikegrb>	and manage getting data
17:11	<EFudd>	ride.
17:11	<EFudd>	rite.
17:12	<@mikegrb>	looked nice but over kill for me
17:12	<@mikegrb>	mrtg works great
17:12	<EFudd>	-nods-... but isn't supported anymore :P
17:12	<EFudd>	and hasn't been for 2yrs
17:12	<@mikegrb>	mrtg took literaly less then a minute and a half to setup on the linode
17:12	<@guinea-sleep>	using my config :P
17:13	<EFudd>	If you know MRTG, you can think of RRDtool as a reimplementation of MRTGs graphing and logging features. Magnitudes faster and more flexible than you ever thought possible
17:13	<@mikegrb>	would have taken much longer to setup cacti or cricket and rrdtool
17:13	<EFudd>	from the author of both.
17:13	<EFudd>	mrtg's database format has a bug
17:13	<EFudd>	it will occasionally zero out data
17:13	<EFudd>	another reason rrdtool exists.
17:13	<@mikegrb>	that's fine
17:13		* EFudd gives up
17:13	<@mikegrb>	this data isn't critical
17:13	<@guinea-sleep>	heh
17:13		* mikegrb doesn't disagree that rrdtool isn't useful
17:13	<@adamgent>	rrdtool looks good for the cpu usage moitoring
17:14	<@guinea-sleep>	g'nite :)
17:14	<@adamgent>	ntie
17:14	<EFudd>	adam, Yup. works really good with sar or other packages
17:14		* mikegrb does disagree that mrtg is not useful
17:14	<@guinea-sleep>	adamgent: anthing smaller looks good for cpu/load/mem monitoring :)
17:14	<EFudd>	heck you can use it to keep track of the number of cans of coke in your fridge if you care to.
17:14	<@adamgent>	bottles of malt whiskey would be better
17:15	<EFudd>	that too.
17:15	<EFudd>	use the --sysadmin-drunk option.
17:15	<@adamgent>	i will have to play with it cometime
17:15	<EFudd>	hmmm
17:15		* mikegrb gits pissed a non sharing home users and closes bit torrent
17:16	<EFudd>	so yesterday my vette cut off out of no where...
17:16	<EFudd>	wouldn't run anymore
17:16	<@mikegrb>	1mb downloaded 270 uploaded
17:16	<EFudd>	it was showing 3/16ths a tank of gas left...
17:16	<@mikegrb>	the one you just got?
17:16	<@mikegrb>	that bites ass
17:16	<EFudd>	computer was giving false readings from the new fuel sending units
17:16	<EFudd>	yeah
17:16	<EFudd>	dealer reprogramed the computer and says it looks good now
17:16	<EFudd>	the math still doesn't add up tho.
17:16	<EFudd>	18 gallon tank.
17:16	<EFudd>	223miles when it failed.
17:16	<EFudd>	18 from the dealership.
17:17	<EFudd>	i drove 205 then with an average of 16.1mpg according to the computer
17:17	<EFudd>	or 12 gallons
17:17	<EFudd>	leaving 6 !
17:17	<EFudd>	which matches 3/16ths
17:17	<EFudd>	they told me "we put gas in it and it fired right up."
17:18	<@mikegrb>	heh
17:18	<@mikegrb>	crazy
17:18	<EFudd>	gues si'll go pick it up
17:18	<EFudd>	perhaps i get left again and can avoid going to matrix
17:18	<@mikegrb>	heh
17:35	<@caker>	Anyone who was interested in moving the Linode to host4 want to move now?
17:36	<shakr>	ill go
17:36	<shakr>	wait whats going on?
17:38	<@caker>	http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=439 .. I don't see you on the list :)
17:39	<@mikegrb>	heh
17:39	<@mikegrb>	lol
17:40	<shakr>	hehe, should i post in the thread or is it too late at this point to sign up?
17:40	<@caker>	Too late, atm
17:40	<shakr>	i wanna move over just to get off the dog that is host7, dont care about the 96 upgrade
17:41	<@caker>	host7 is a dog?
17:41	<shakr>	it can be, frequently my terminals are unresponsive for > 10 seconds
17:42	<@caker>	I can't wait for CFQ in 2.6 ..
17:48	<@mikegrb>	cfq == ?
17:50	<@caker>	Complete Fair Queuing
17:50	<@caker>	it divides disk i/o evenly for ALL processes
17:51	<@caker>	it's the answer to our disk i/o problems
17:51	<sunny>	but does it cure cancer ?
17:51	<@caker>	I hope so :)
17:51	<sunny>	heh >:)
17:52	<@mikegrb>	oh
17:52	<@mikegrb>	then cgq sounds badass
17:52	<@mikegrb>	er
17:52	<@mikegrb>	cfq
17:52	<@mikegrb>	heh
17:54	<@mikegrb>	I'll have to try it next kernel compile
17:54	<@mikegrb>	I'm still at 2.6.0-pre5
17:55	<@mikegrb>	started to upgrage to pre9 but figured I'd wait since it looks like the release is right around the corner and test5 is running great fore me
17:55	<@mikegrb>	er for
18:00	<@adamgent>	looks like you are going to need another linode 64 server chris
18:02	<@mikegrb>	indeed
18:02	<@mikegrb>	* Chiphead hasn't seen a linode from our local spammer today :P
18:02	<@mikegrb>	<mikegrb> Zachary: you should get a linode
18:02	<@mikegrb>	<Chiphead> LOL
18:02	<@mikegrb>	<Zachary> what?
18:02	<@mikegrb>	<mikegrb> heh
18:02	<@mikegrb>	<mikegrb> Chiphead: they are sold out right now
18:02	<@mikegrb>	a few minutes ago
18:03	<@mikegrb>	though I corrected myself and said 4 larger ones were available
18:03	<@adamgent>	well if there are 10-15 people moving to the L96, then it should free up on L64
18:03	<@mikegrb>	but he is reserving thier spots
18:03	<@adamgent>	that is true, but most people like to start off with something small then work up
18:03	<@adamgent>	well in that case, a new server will be nessecary
18:05	<@adamgent>	s/will/would
18:15	<wap>	caker's around?
18:15	<@caker>	1 sec
18:16	<@caker>	back
18:17	<@caker>	adamgent: Yes, going to order more machines tomorrow
18:17	<wap>	caker: You're doing the moves from 64 -> 96? May I sign up?
18:17	<@caker>	Shipping off host11 to HE tomorrow, too
18:17	<@adamgent>	the new 96 server?
18:18	<@caker>	yeah
18:18		* Artifex is back (gone 09:28:46)
18:25		* sunny intends on upgrading to 96 as well
18:29	<sunny>	I don't get something about the website:
18:29	<sunny>	Dual 2.66 GHz Xeon
18:29	<sunny>	how many Linodes sharing a hypothetical 2.2 GHz Machine
18:29	<sunny>	why the difference ?
18:29	<sunny>	are you taking into consideration of actually running the host ?
18:30	<@caker>	My first machine was a 2.4ghz, minus a little for the host
18:30	<sunny>	ah, I see
18:30	<@caker>	I ended up getting dual procs, even though I couldn't fit more Linodes onto them (because ram was the limit)
18:30	<@caker>	because it's not that more expensive to get dual processors ..
18:33	<@caker>	my english/typing is poor today ..
18:34	<@adamgent>	mine is poor everyday
18:34	<sunny>	hehe
18:34	<sunny>	soooo
18:34	<sunny>	when are we going to see Linode Opteron 64 ? >:D
18:35	<sunny>	or Linode PPC970 64 ?
18:35	<sunny>	or Linode UltraSPARC III 64 ?
18:35		* sunny gets carried away
18:35	<@adamgent>	and who needs a 64 bit processor
18:36	<sunny>	who needs more than 640k of ram ?
18:36	<@caker>	or Linode Darwin PPC
18:36	<sunny>	bleh, darwin is a waste of CPU :P
18:36	<@adamgent>	or a sun E6500
18:36	<@caker>	IBM Z-series
18:37	<@caker>	I really wanted to offer emulated Commodore-64s
18:37	<sunny>	err, the more centralized the greater the IO lag ?
18:37	<sunny>	Linode PDA!
18:37	<@caker>	hmm :)
18:39	<wap>	caker: migration over :) Thanks! I'm just wondering one thing: Transfer/Mo has remained 25.0 GB is it normal?
18:39	<@caker>	wap: I'm still working my way through everybody
18:40	<wap>	caker: No problem, I perfectly understrand and I'm already happy :) It's really a great service you're providing!
18:40	<@caker>	wap: thanks :)
18:41	<sunny>	no!! linode sux0rz!! I want my linode gaming system!!
18:43	<EFudd>	hrm... 4.31GB xferred @ 6pct of total.
18:54	<@mikegrb>	heh
18:54	-!-	Artifex is now known as DeLpHi
18:54	-!-	DeLpHi is now known as Artifex
18:54	<@mikegrb>	don't ask about those nicks ;)
18:54	<@mikegrb>	you /don't/ want to know
18:58	<@caker>	what is going on in xbox-linux??
18:58	<@mikegrb>	heh
18:58	<@mikegrb>	they are playing with a bot
18:58	<@mikegrb>	it has a nickname lameness meter
18:58	<@mikegrb>	try 'nickometer <some nick>'
18:58	<@mikegrb>	Artifex decided he was going to reach the max value
18:59	<Artifex>	and by golly
18:59	<Artifex>	i did,.
18:59	<@mikegrb>	indeed
18:59	<@mikegrb>	even if it took about 30 tries <g>
18:59	<Artifex>	i won the grand prize with my final answer of:
18:59	<Artifex>	nickometer _.-=<{\|31337HaX0ROwNZJ00s0pH34rtehPowErs0ftehScrIpTKiDDiEwAys_nOw-GiVE-me-UR-root-PaSsworDz-So-I-C4n-Ovvn-y3R-A55\|}>=-.__.-=<{\|31337HaX0ROwNZJ00s0pH34rtehPowErs0ftehScrIpTKiDDiEwAys_nOw-GiVE-me-UR-root-PaSsworDz-So-I-C4n-Ovvn-y3R-A55_mikegrb-Is-TeH-L4\|V\|3!!}>=-.__.-=<{\|31337HaX0ROwNZJ00s0pH34rtehPowErs0ftehScrIpTKiDDiEwAys_nOw-GiVE-me-UR-root-PaSsworDz-So-I-C4n-Ovvn-y3R-A55\|}>=-.__.-=<{\|31337HaX0ROwNZJ00s0pH34rtehPowErs0ftehScrIpT
18:59	<Artifex>	KiDDiEwAys_nOw-GiVE-me-UR-root-PaSsworDz-So-I-C4n-Ovvn-y3R-A55_mikegrb-Is-TeH-L4\|V\|3!!}>=-.__.-=<{\|31337HaX0ROwNZJ00s0pH34rtehPowErs0ftehScrIpTKiDDiEwAys_nOw-GiVE-me-UR-root-PaSsworDz-So-I-C4n-Ovvn-y3R-A55\|}>=-.__.-=<{\|31337HaX0ROwNZJ00s0pH34rtehPowErs0ftehScrIpTKiDDiEwAys_nOw-GiVE-me-UR-root-PaSsworDz-So-I-C4n-Ovvn-y3R-A55_mikegrb-Is-TeH-L4\|V\|3!!}>=-._?
18:59	<@mikegrb>	the worse part is you taking the time to actually say stuff
19:01	<Quik>	wap - is the ground shaking yet? ;)
19:02		* mikegrb must go get dressed and then it's off to see the matrix
19:02	<@caker>	may the force be with you
19:02	<@caker>	er
19:02	<@caker>	at least that chick from the movie
19:02	<@mikegrb>	heh something like that
19:02	<@mikegrb>	heheh
19:02	<@mikegrb>	heidi wouldn't be too happy about that
19:03	<Quik>	enjoy it mikegrb :)
19:03	<@mikegrb>	oh I will
19:04	<sunny>	the nick of [][][][] (legal on most networks) is usually enough to make nickometer go nuts :)
19:05	<wap>	Quik: I'm still alive!
19:05	<Quik>	:D
19:06		* Quik retreats back to host8
19:06		* wap yawns
19:06	<@caker>	Quik: do it, you know you want to
19:07	<Quik>	i shall do, just need to wait till i swap stuff over to the other linode before i move onto h4 :)
19:07	<Quik>	probably tomorrow or friday
19:17	<wap>	g'night folks
19:17	<@caker>	see ya wap
19:17	<wap>	caker: I should be there when you wake up ;)
19:18	<@caker>	heh
19:18	<Quik>	cya \o
19:18		* wap goes to sleep now
19:23	-!-	Artifex is now known as [][][][]
19:23	-!-	[][][][][] is now known as Artifex
19:35	<sunny>	Artifex: worked /
19:35	<sunny>	?
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19:35	<Quik>	cya peeps :)
19:36	-!-	Quik is now known as quik
19:38	<Artifex>	sunny:
19:38	<Artifex>	<sighup> '[][][][]' is 99.9842% lame, [][][][]
19:38	<Artifex>	not tooooo bad
19:38	<Artifex>	but, i did better
19:45	<@adamgent>	i will speak to you all tomorrow...
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22:25	<@caker>	.
22:32	<Artifex>	.,.
22:32	<@caker>	the matrix has you
22:33	<@caker>	follow the red corvette
23:01	<@mikegrb>	damn that shit is badass
23:01	<@mikegrb>	oh
23:01	<@mikegrb>	huh
23:02		* mikegrb goes to oftc-staff
23:06	<EFudd>	haha.
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