| --- | Log | opened Thu Oct 30 00:00:35 2003 |
| 00:33 | <@mikegrb> | caker you still around? |
| 00:34 | <@caker> | yeah |
| 00:34 | <@caker> | I decided to leave the portage directory .. image is now 720 instead of 780 though .. |
| 00:34 | <@mikegrb> | well still better |
| 00:35 | <@mikegrb> | here is a bit of context for tj and my bitcing: |
| 00:35 | <@caker> | get to bk? |
| 00:35 | <@caker> | ok |
| 00:35 | <@mikegrb> | sorry, for this now. |
| 00:35 | <@mikegrb> | and i will not comment why. |
| 00:35 | <@mikegrb> | patch not accepted. |
| 00:35 | <@mikegrb> | there are resons why this had been done this way. |
| 00:35 | <@mikegrb> | you can ask the gcc people, they will tell you the same. |
| 00:35 | <@mikegrb> | all this was was a patch to the make system |
| 00:36 | <@mikegrb> | the way stuff was implemented every make will rebuild the entire bios |
| 00:36 | <@mikegrb> | this person went through and rewrote all the makefiles to be 'propper' |
| 00:37 | <@caker> | heh |
| 00:37 | <@caker> | This guy is a pita, but can't you guys manipulate him into doing what you want anyway? |
| 00:37 | <@caker> | s/can't/can/ |
| 00:38 | <@mikegrb> | heh no |
| 00:38 | <@mikegrb> | lots of people have requested features even offered patches and even when the consensus is that it would be a good thing he says no |
| 00:38 | <@mikegrb> | he refuses to listen to anyone but himself |
| 00:39 | <@mikegrb> | one sec lemme find a url for you |
| 00:39 | <@mikegrb> | this will paint a much more vivid picture |
| 00:39 | <@caker> | where are you typing from? |
| 00:40 | <@caker> | weird lag |
| 00:40 | <@caker> | :) |
| 00:40 | <@mikegrb> | people without knowlege of development status shouldnever try to make |
| 00:40 | <@mikegrb> | "patches" or anything you need. |
| 00:40 | <@mikegrb> | |
| 00:40 | <@mikegrb> | you can download the binary from the download sections, tehy are |
| 00:40 | <@mikegrb> | verified to work. |
| 00:41 | <@mikegrb> | that's another email |
| 00:41 | <@mikegrb> | I'm typing from the living room |
| 00:41 | <@mikegrb> | ;) |
| 00:41 | <@mikegrb> | charleston |
| 00:41 | <@mikegrb> | proxied through irssi on the linode |
| 00:41 | <@mikegrb> | but I'm in another channel having a discussion too <g> |
| 00:41 | <@caker> | hmm ok |
| 00:41 | <@mikegrb> | that email right there started things off most recently |
| 00:41 | <@caker> | but people on the devel team are different, right? |
| 00:41 | <@caker> | ahh |
| 00:42 | <@mikegrb> | http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.xbox.devel/6668 |
| 00:42 | <@mikegrb> | that is tj's response |
| 00:43 | <@mikegrb> | next in thread will get franz very ummm arogant? reply |
| 00:45 | <@mikegrb> | hopefully this mandrake cd I just burned will be readable by heidi's laptop, it wouldn't read the last one for some reason |
| 00:46 | <@mikegrb> | her laptop has win 95 and the stupid linksys win 95 driver for the wifi card is not compatible with win95?!?!? |
| 00:53 | <Artifex> | <mikegrb> tjfontaine or Artifex might have suggestions for distributions |
| 00:53 | | * Artifex is back (gone 04:27:53) |
| 00:53 | <Artifex> | how about a tool to assist the user in LFS+UML.... |
| 00:53 | <Artifex> | :-D |
| 00:53 | <Artifex> | roll your own. |
| 00:53 | | * caker deploys the updated Gentoo fs |
| 00:55 | <@caker> | wonder how hard it would be to convert SuSE's live cd |
| 00:55 | <@caker> | via loop-mount |
| 00:55 | <@caker> | mikegrb: that's an ugly thread |
| 00:56 | <Artifex> | caker: the franz vs. the world thread? |
| 00:56 | <@caker> | yes |
| 00:56 | <Artifex> | heh |
| 00:56 | <Artifex> | yeah |
| 00:56 | <Artifex> | he's whacked. |
| 00:56 | <Artifex> | egotistical, and over-protective of an open and PUBLIC project, that he doesnt (subconciously) accept isn't HIS baby |
| 00:56 | <@caker> | I say take him for all he's worth |
| 00:57 | <@caker> | but that's just the manipulative mind in me |
| 00:57 | <Artifex> | he is pretty brilliant, in some ways... you have to give him that |
| 00:57 | <Artifex> | i've seen things he has in his personal cromwell tree that are mindblowing |
| 00:57 | <@caker> | How old is this kid? |
| 00:57 | <Artifex> | erm, 28 iirc |
| 00:57 | <Artifex> | i could be way off, tho |
| 00:57 | <@caker> | hmm |
| 00:57 | <@caker> | sounds too old to still be a prima-donna |
| 00:58 | <@caker> | but you never know |
| 01:12 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 01:15 | <@mikegrb> | I created 50 megs of new files/logs but deleted 70 megs today :) |
| 01:54 | <@mikegrb> | somebody named caker is browsing the forums ;) |
| 01:54 | <@caker> | hehe, u2 |
| 01:54 | <@mikegrb> | yha |
| 01:55 | <@mikegrb> | just posted re apache |
| 01:55 | <@caker> | saw that |
| 01:55 | <@mikegrb> | too lazy to look stuff up in the docs at 2am |
| 01:55 | <@mikegrb> | the franz plot thickens |
| 01:56 | <@mikegrb> | the guy who wrote the makefile patch just sent a great email to the list abt why his patch shuold be accepted |
| 01:56 | <@mikegrb> | also said he would accept it not being included but not without a reason |
| 01:59 | <@mikegrb> | http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.xbox.devel/6685 just showed up on gmame, here it is if your interested.... kind of like reading a soap opera <g> |
| 01:59 | <@mikegrb> | you should subscribe to the dev list just for the entertainment value |
| 01:59 | <@mikegrb> | well written post though I thought |
| 02:00 | | * Artifex should just go in and start adding shit to cromwell |
| 02:00 | <Artifex> | JUST to piss franz off |
| 02:00 | <Artifex> | lol |
| 02:01 | <@mikegrb> | I thought about it |
| 02:01 | <Artifex> | do things he's said were impossible... |
| 02:01 | <Artifex> | do things he's done but not put into the official tree... |
| 02:01 | <@mikegrb> | I made some changes to make it compile with gcc 3.2 |
| 02:01 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 02:01 | <@mikegrb> | indeed |
| 02:01 | <@mikegrb> | would be funny |
| 02:02 | <Artifex> | do things he's always wanted to/talked about... but never gotten around to |
| 02:02 | <Artifex> | lol |
| 02:02 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 02:02 | <@mikegrb> | that would really piss him off |
| 02:02 | <@mikegrb> | he'd call you a motherfucker like tj |
| 02:02 | <Artifex> | and then, for the coup detat... |
| 02:02 | <Artifex> | re-write the whole thing because 'his was unstable' and drive him away from the project and into seclusion |
| 02:03 | <@mikegrb> | :) |
| 02:03 | <@mikegrb> | lol |
| 02:04 | <Artifex> | that reminds me |
| 02:04 | <Artifex> | i've found a few problems in xbeboot lately. |
| 02:04 | <Artifex> | i may go fixing |
| 02:04 | <Artifex> | and improving |
| 02:04 | <@mikegrb> | :) |
| 02:04 | <Artifex> | will wait till after the 1.4/1.5 stuff is done, tho |
| 02:04 | <Artifex> | which reminds me i need to code that tool for ed tomorrow |
| 02:04 | <Artifex> | sheesh.... busy busy busy |
| 02:05 | <Artifex> | too many projects at once, right now. |
| 02:05 | <@mikegrb> | caker: for your benifit xbeboot is similiar to cromwell (cromwell is the linux bios) xbeboot is a linux bootloader that doesn't get flashed to memory |
| 02:05 | <Artifex> | it's sort of.... |
| 02:05 | <@mikegrb> | tool for the focus stuff? |
| 02:05 | <Artifex> | like, loadlin |
| 02:05 | <Artifex> | for the xbox |
| 02:05 | <Artifex> | heh |
| 02:05 | <@mikegrb> | heh yes |
| 02:06 | <@mikegrb> | great way to describe it |
| 02:06 | <Artifex> | yeah, focus stuff |
| 02:06 | <@mikegrb> | haven't heard loadlin mentioned in a good oh 8 years |
| 02:06 | <@mikegrb> | heh #linode is a new #xbox-linux-devel2 <g> |
| 02:06 | <Artifex> | mikegrb: and people always seem to doubt that i really am old-school. ;-) |
| 02:06 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 02:06 | <@mikegrb> | well we have confirmed each other |
| 02:07 | <@mikegrb> | gpg web of trust like |
| 02:07 | <@mikegrb> | :) |
| 02:07 | <Artifex> | lol |
| 02:07 | <Artifex> | i remember my first linux install |
| 02:07 | <Artifex> | was slackware |
| 02:07 | <@mikegrb> | my first was slackware |
| 02:07 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 02:07 | <@mikegrb> | lol |
| 02:07 | <Artifex> | yeah man |
| 02:07 | <@mikegrb> | talk about backward <g> |
| 02:07 | <Artifex> | shortly after, umsdos came about :-D |
| 02:07 | <Artifex> | i was like |
| 02:08 | <Artifex> | WHOA |
| 02:08 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 02:08 | <@mikegrb> | I think mine was the same way, I don't remember for sure |
| 02:08 | <Artifex> | then slackware became all geared towards umsdos |
| 02:08 | <@mikegrb> | I know my first attempt was a 286, maybe 386 laptop |
| 02:08 | <Artifex> | and then umsdos started pissing me off |
| 02:08 | <@mikegrb> | didn't work out too well |
| 02:09 | <@mikegrb> | I worked at an ISP on days with no school back in 6th and 7th grade |
| 02:09 | <Artifex> | erm, well, it wasnt a 286... |
| 02:09 | <Artifex> | heh |
| 02:09 | <@mikegrb> | well bah |
| 02:09 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 02:09 | | * Artifex lowers your trust level on the 'understanding x86 architechture' sub-key |
| 02:09 | <@mikegrb> | people would come in when the two guys were downstairs getting launch, see me and my friend and be like, wow this is my kind of place |
| 02:10 | <@mikegrb> | bah! |
| 02:10 | <Artifex> | (286 lacks the protected mode support required for context-protected operating systems such as linux) |
| 02:11 | <@mikegrb> | got to fix sillt stuff like a user stopping by b/c he couldn't modify his webpages (which had been restored from backup) he was impressed I was able to fix the problem... the files were all owned by root |
| 02:11 | <@mikegrb> | yes |
| 02:11 | <@mikegrb> | I understand |
| 02:11 | <Artifex> | but, then again, there is elks |
| 02:11 | <Artifex> | go figure |
| 02:11 | <@mikegrb> | it may have been a 286 though |
| 02:11 | <@mikegrb> | that might have been the problem <G> |
| 02:11 | <Artifex> | lol |
| 02:11 | <@mikegrb> | though I think it was a 386 and the problem had something to do with the backlight turning off |
| 02:11 | <Artifex> | elks is fun |
| 02:11 | <@mikegrb> | it was sooo long ago |
| 02:12 | <@mikegrb> | I was I guess 12 back then |
| 02:12 | <Artifex> | i used to run elks under bochs on my ce palmtop in highschool |
| 02:12 | <Artifex> | casio cassiopeia |
| 02:12 | <@mikegrb> | 9 years ago |
| 02:12 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 02:13 | <Artifex> | anyways, i'm rambling now, so, im off to bed |
| 02:13 | <Artifex> | night |
| 02:13 | <@mikegrb> | I ran tetris on my ti-86 heh |
| 02:13 | <@mikegrb> | night |
| 02:13 | <@mikegrb> | I need to do likewise |
| 02:13 | <Artifex> | i had a ti-92 |
| 02:13 | <Artifex> | :-P |
| 02:13 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 02:13 | <@mikegrb> | bastard |
| 02:13 | <Artifex> | that thing was a beast of a calculator |
| 02:14 | <@mikegrb> | yes |
| 02:14 | <@mikegrb> | I believe the software itself was the same as the 86 other then the geometric proofs and the like |
| 02:14 | <@mikegrb> | man /that/ would have made school nice |
| 02:15 | <Artifex> | similar, yes |
| 02:15 | <Artifex> | there were some major differences |
| 02:15 | <@mikegrb> | the asm stuff was nice |
| 02:15 | <Artifex> | ANYWAYS |
| 02:15 | <Artifex> | need sleep |
| 02:15 | <Artifex> | now |
| 02:15 | <@mikegrb> | heh like the kbd |
| 02:15 | <@mikegrb> | heh yes |
| 02:15 | <@mikegrb> | night |
| 02:15 | <Artifex> | night |
| 02:15 | <Artifex> | :-) |
| 02:17 | <@caker> | Anyone remember infomagic? |
| 02:54 | <@guinea-sleep> | guten tag! |
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| 03:02 | <@caker> | excellent .. host7 didn't even flinch during the Linode's cron time |
| 03:05 | <@guinea-pig> | yaaay |
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| 05:37 | <sunny> | mornin' folks' |
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| 08:33 | <@mikegrb> | morning |
| 08:33 | <@adamgent> | morning |
| 08:35 | <@mikegrb> | only 3 64's left |
| 09:07 | <@mikegrb> | silly phpbb telling me there are no unread posts |
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| 09:47 | <@mikegrb> | hello |
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| 09:48 | <@mikegrb> | goodbye |
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| 10:01 | <@adamgent> | hi |
| 10:01 | <Phonepiks> | Hi Adam |
| 10:21 | <@mikegrb> | hello |
| 10:21 | <Phonepiks> | Afternoon |
| 10:42 | | * adamgent waits for west wing to arrive on his computer |
| 10:45 | <Phonepiks> | Tut! Scandalous <grin> |
| 10:45 | <@adamgent> | it is not my fault that we are 6 mnths behind over here |
| 10:45 | <Phonepiks> | hehe |
| 10:45 | <@adamgent> | beside I buy them on dvd when it comes out so.. |
| 10:47 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 10:48 | <Phonepiks> | LOL |
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| 11:09 | <@adamgent> | hi sunny, jax |
| 11:09 | <jax-work> | hello |
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| 12:27 | | * jax-work is away: lunch |
| 12:28 | | * adamgent thinks about buying a bottle of krug |
| 12:28 | <Phonepiks> | Celebrating Adam? |
| 12:28 | <@adamgent> | not yet |
| 12:29 | <@adamgent> | i have a couple of bottles of lanson's lying around for now |
| 12:29 | <Phonepiks> | Hmm, ok |
| 12:33 | <@caker> | Hello |
| 12:33 | <Phonepiks> | Morning |
| 12:34 | <@caker> | ah 2.4.23-pre9 is out |
| 12:50 | <@adamgent> | hi |
| 12:52 | <@caker> | Hey Adam, how's it going? |
| 12:52 | <@adamgent> | fine, yourself |
| 12:52 | <@caker> | swell |
| 12:53 | <@caker> | the president of the Perl Foundation is speaking at our local LUG this evening... |
| 12:53 | <@adamgent> | you going to attend |
| 12:53 | <@caker> | I doubt it :) .. I just lurk on the mailing list |
| 12:53 | <@caker> | But I used to work w/ the guy who started the LUG |
| 12:53 | <@caker> | which is quite large, despite being Nashville :) |
| 12:58 | <sunny> | thats pretty cool |
| 12:58 | <sunny> | our LUG sux0rz |
| 12:59 | | * mikegrb wishes there would be a LUG where he lived |
| 12:59 | <sunny> | all these important people come ... and we do have a really nice location to meet (IBM's new york head quaters) ... but all of our bloody LUG meetings are about some guy presenting some software we'll never use (stuff that costs 6 digits) |
| 13:03 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 13:03 | <@mikegrb> | that does indeed sux0rz |
| 13:05 | <@caker> | I gave up on my LUG after asking about poor performance w/ I/O schedular (seeing a theme, here?) and they told me to turn on DMA... duh! |
| 13:05 | <@caker> | that was about 6 mo ago |
| 13:06 | <@adamgent> | just found a 25,000 burgendy |
| 13:06 | <@caker> | Where? |
| 13:07 | <@mikegrb> | gosh caker, that sucks, any fool knows you should turn on dma AND 32bit io |
| 13:07 | <@adamgent> | its a Dm. Magnum which is 300cl |
| 13:07 | <@mikegrb> | ;) |
| 13:08 | <@adamgent> | only botteled in 1990 |
| 13:11 | <@adamgent> | oh well thats enough of looking for alchol |
| 13:11 | <Phonepiks> | that's an expensive hangover |
| 13:21 | | * jax-work is back (gone 00:53:53) |
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| 13:56 | <@adamgent> | hi |
| 13:56 | <jax-work> | hello |
| 14:04 | <@mikegrb> | hello |
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| 14:16 | <tjfontaine> | you say hello |
| 14:16 | <tjfontaine> | and I say good bye |
| 14:17 | <Efudd> | hrm |
| 14:18 | <tjfontaine> | ist better than a bad bye |
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| 14:59 | <@caker> | dvl666stn: hello Mike |
| 15:00 | <@adamgent> | ji |
| 15:00 | <@adamgent> | hi even |
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| 15:06 | <dvl666stn> | hey there caker |
| 15:06 | <dvl666stn> | hows things ? |
| 15:06 | <@caker> | Pretty good, yourself? :) |
| 15:07 | <dvl666stn> | its all good here aswell :) just showered thinking of an early night, also signing up before i do. |
| 15:07 | <@caker> | excellent |
| 15:08 | | * tjfontaine hopes that an article he writes get's slashdotted |
| 15:15 | <@mikegrb> | to test? |
| 15:16 | <tjfontaine> | no just in general, its such an important topic |
| 15:16 | <tjfontaine> | you could read that link in lynx/links you know its only text :-) |
| 15:17 | <@mikegrb> | I'm getting ready to pull it up |
| 15:17 | <@mikegrb> | things have settled down a bit |
| 15:18 | <tjfontaine> | good good |
| 15:18 | <tjfontaine> | I've made lots of changes since so :-) |
| 15:19 | <tjfontaine> | http://tjfontaine.clemlumber.net/~tjfontaine/xbox-linux.html for anyone else who may be interested |
| 15:22 | <@caker> | clem lumber? |
| 15:22 | <tjfontaine> | yup |
| 15:22 | | * mikegrb ehispers to caker, "front for drug smuggling and money laundering... tj is at it's core" |
| 15:22 | <@mikegrb> | er |
| 15:22 | <@caker> | nice |
| 15:24 | | * Efudd passes out RC Cola |
| 15:24 | <@mikegrb> | thanks |
| 15:24 | | * caker slams the entire thing |
| 15:24 | <Efudd> | np. |
| 15:25 | | * Efudd passes out Goody's headache powder also |
| 15:26 | | * mikegrb has found those excedrin quick tabs do wonders for migraines |
| 15:27 | <@mikegrb> | light migraines anyway |
| 15:27 | <tjfontaine> | not for full blown ones though |
| 15:28 | <Efudd> | I find the powdered stuff, ala BC && Goodies, works very fast on all but the worst headaches.. it's just difficult to take. |
| 15:30 | <tjfontaine> | my amidrine is good for hard headaches and light migranes, its not as powerful on migranes as imitrex, but is a close cousin to morphine... and therefore a controlled substance |
| 15:30 | <@mikegrb> | you all may now reach me at mgreb@oftc.net =D |
| 15:30 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 15:30 | <tjfontaine> | heh |
| 15:32 | <@mikegrb> | tjfontaine: looks good, wouldn't hurt to add more stuff, just not sure exactly what to elaborate on |
| 15:32 | <tjfontaine> | znarks playin devils advocate for me |
| 15:32 | <@mikegrb> | don't have much constuctive criticism other then that |
| 15:32 | <@mikegrb> | !spell ctiricism |
| 15:33 | | * mikegrb misses xbox-logger <g> |
| 15:33 | | * caker spits on UML_ChanLog |
| 15:33 | | * tjfontaine sprinkles google api on UML_ChanLog |
| 15:33 | <Efudd> | mmm google |
| 15:34 | <Efudd> | Life is difficult. Trying to balance the correct amount of nicotine and caffeine in my body each day to maintain equilibrium. |
| 15:36 | <@adamgent> | prefer alcohol to nicotine |
| 15:38 | <Efudd> | Mmmm. |
| 15:38 | <Efudd> | I didn't start smoking cigs until i stopped pot. |
| 15:38 | <Efudd> | pot is a gateway drug ! |
| 15:39 | <@adamgent> | and a good single malt is always a good way to finish off the day |
| 15:39 | <Efudd> | hmm oh yes. hush before i go to the bar. need to debug this code |
| 15:40 | <Efudd> | "A wise Sysadmin is a inebriated Sysadmin." |
| 15:40 | <@caker> | hmm the Alcoholic Sys Admin from Hell |
| 15:41 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 15:42 | <Efudd> | printf("hax0red to [%s]\n",RetBuf1); |
| 15:42 | <Efudd> | mm hax0red in code. heh. |
| 15:44 | <@mikegrb> | http://www.dotfiles.com/files/3/341_bastard.txt |
| 15:44 | <@caker> | NICE |
| 15:45 | <@caker> | The Matrix has you! |
| 15:45 | <@caker> | hahaha |
| 15:46 | <Efudd> | I just bought my tickets. |
| 15:46 | <@caker> | Yeah |
| 15:46 | <@caker> | Nov 11th? |
| 15:46 | <Efudd> | 5th ? |
| 15:46 | <@caker> | k |
| 15:46 | <Efudd> | yeah. 5th. next wednesday. |
| 15:46 | <@caker> | that sounds right |
| 15:46 | | * tjfontaine forgot! amd goes to preorder |
| 15:47 | <@caker> | We've got the largest movie theater "east of the mississippi" here in Nashville |
| 15:47 | <@caker> | when Star Wars came out |
| 15:47 | <@caker> | people were literally around the building in line |
| 15:47 | <tjfontaine> | ya ya, biggest eh? |
| 15:47 | <tjfontaine> | ;-) |
| 15:47 | <@caker> | I walked up, went inside, used the Kiosk and bought about 12 tickets, and walked out in about 3 minutes |
| 15:47 | <@caker> | fools |
| 15:47 | <tjfontaine> | heh |
| 15:48 | <@caker> | I thought I was going to get mobbed on the way out |
| 15:48 | <Efudd> | Hmm... I wonder if GetPrivateProfileString() in the WINAPI is non case sensitive. |
| 15:49 | <Efudd> | hrm. doesn't matter. my implementation isn't. |
| 15:50 | <@mikegrb> | http://www.dotfiles.com/files/3/323_tmp.txt <- another BOFH .bashrc |
| 15:50 | <@caker> | I think I'm going to make all the distro's /etc/issue contain "The Matrix has you..." |
| 15:51 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 15:51 | <@mikegrb> | good idea |
| 15:51 | <Efudd> | i'll ssh localhost and hax0r you! |
| 15:51 | <Efudd> | I saw it in the movie, I can do it IRL! |
| 15:51 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 15:51 | | * Efudd nmaps |
| 15:51 | <@mikegrb> | I found a lot of software for free dl |
| 15:51 | <@mikegrb> | ftp://127.0.0.1 |
| 15:51 | <tjfontaine> | who here is a hardcore C coder? |
| 15:52 | | * Efudd prefers ftp://warez.texas.net |
| 15:52 | <Efudd> | tjf, <-hacker, not coder, but perhaps I can help? |
| 15:52 | <tjfontaine> | heh |
| 15:52 | <tjfontaine> | I need you to look at some code |
| 15:52 | | * Efudd runs away screaming |
| 15:52 | <tjfontaine> | and tell me if its unreasonably messy |
| 15:52 | <Efudd> | Lol.. sure. |
| 15:53 | <tjfontaine> | sf.net down again |
| 15:53 | <@mikegrb> | yha they have lots of softwarez too |
| 15:53 | <tjfontaine> | sf.net cvs :/cvsroot/xbox-linux co cromwell |
| 15:54 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 15:54 | <@adamgent> | it was down for maint yesterday i think |
| 15:54 | | * mikegrb can tell you right now |
| 15:54 | <Efudd> | I gotta emerge cvs... |
| 15:54 | <tjfontaine> | thanks |
| 15:55 | | * Efudd got bitched at for using a continue; yesterday :/ |
| 15:56 | <Efudd> | socket(PF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, IPPROTO_IP) = 3 |
| 15:56 | <Efudd> | connect(3, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(139), sin_addr=inet_addr("10.73.104.2")}, 16 |
| 15:57 | <Efudd> | This looks promising. First time my win32->linux port has done sompn :) |
| 15:57 | <@caker> | wait, who was working on the secret project again? |
| 15:57 | <@mikegrb> | time to go home :) |
| 15:57 | | * caker looks at Efudd |
| 15:57 | <Efudd> | Can't tell you. |
| 15:58 | | * Efudd raises the "NOT ME" flag |
| 15:58 | <Efudd> | mmm i've got swapped processes on my linode :/ |
| 16:00 | <@caker> | I think I have a wasp problem in my apt .. killed another one this afternoon |
| 16:30 | <@mikegrb> | :/ |
| 16:30 | <@mikegrb> | gotta kill them all |
| 16:45 | <Efudd> | mm just got 7 new dual proc Xeon's to play with ! |
| 16:46 | | * caker is ordering machines atm, too |
| 16:46 | <@mikegrb> | :) |
| 16:46 | <@mikegrb> | yes |
| 16:46 | <@mikegrb> | caker needs 'um |
| 16:46 | <Efudd> | heh :) |
| 16:47 | <@caker> | although 1.8TB would make a nice backup server |
| 16:47 | <Efudd> | lol... =) |
| 16:47 | <Efudd> | gimme 10Mbit/mo of bandwidth. :) |
| 16:48 | <@caker> | we don't need it that bad :) |
| 16:48 | <Efudd> | lol :) |
| 16:48 | <Efudd> | friend of mine has 1.8TB in *just* Startrek DVDs for his mythTV server |
| 16:49 | <@caker> | I know people like that .. entire Simpsons and .. what's the show with Cramer? |
| 16:49 | <@guinea-pig> | seinfeld |
| 16:49 | <@caker> | yeah |
| 16:49 | <@guinea-pig> | and the soup nazi |
| 16:49 | <Efudd> | i'd like seinfeld.. |
| 16:50 | <@guinea-pig> | i was a bad boy today. bought 2 160G drives, a geforce fx, a cdrw/dvd drive... |
| 16:50 | <Efudd> | nice :) |
| 16:51 | <@caker> | someone throw me another 1U server maker site |
| 16:51 | <@caker> | anyone recommend? |
| 16:51 | <@guinea-pig> | i-make-systems-in-my-garage.com |
| 16:51 | <@caker> | hehe |
| 16:51 | <@guinea-pig> | sorry, never dealt with rach systems |
| 16:51 | <@guinea-pig> | rack, even |
| 16:52 | <@caker> | ok |
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| 16:52 | -!- | mikegrb [me@mikegrb.sponsor.oftc.net] has joined #linode |
| 16:52 | -!- | Irssi: #linode: Total of 13 nicks [3 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal] |
| 16:52 | -!- | mode/#linode [+o mikegrb] by ChanServ |
| 16:52 | <@mikegrb> | :) |
| 16:52 | -!- | Irssi: Join to #linode was synced in 10 secs |
| 16:52 | | * mikegrb got nifty hostmask |
| 16:52 | <@guinea-pig> | ooh aah |
| 16:52 | -!- | Efudd [~jason@li2-172.members.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] |
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| 16:53 | <Efudd> | ah |
| 16:53 | <Efudd> | there's my hostmask. |
| 16:53 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 16:53 | <@guinea-pig> | mikegrb: orion is the linode hosted oftc server, right? |
| 16:53 | <@mikegrb> | yes |
| 16:54 | <@mikegrb> | it has no orion.oftc.net dns b/c it is a hub, you can connect to it at orion.thegrebs.com though |
| 16:54 | <@guinea-pig> | i'm guessing this because of the cname mikegrb1.rev->orion |
| 16:54 | <@guinea-pig> | ahh |
| 16:54 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
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| 17:20 | <Quik> | lo :) |
| 17:21 | <@caker> | Hello Quik |
| 17:21 | <@mikegrb> | hello |
| 17:21 | <Quik> | thought i'd come check out the irc chan :) |
| 17:22 | <tjfontaine> | welcome to the wonderful world of |
| 17:23 | <Quik> | .. :P |
| 17:24 | <@caker> | I wonder well SATA works in linux 2.4 |
| 17:24 | <tjfontaine> | ^ how |
| 17:24 | <@caker> | yeah |
| 17:24 | <@caker> | how well :) |
| 17:24 | <tjfontaine> | heh |
| 17:24 | <tjfontaine> | if you find out lemme know :-) |
| 17:24 | | * Quik nods along with the technical talk |
| 17:24 | <@caker> | I think I'll stick to what I know works |
| 17:25 | <tjfontaine> | wheres the fun in that? |
| 17:25 | <@caker> | Ok, I'll move your Linode over to test it, eh? |
| 17:25 | <tjfontaine> | sure |
| 17:25 | <@caker> | bah |
| 17:26 | <tjfontaine> | as long as I'm not penalized for downtime and not using bandiwdth :-) |
| 17:26 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 17:26 | <@caker> | prices are double for access to experimental hardware |
| 17:26 | <tjfontaine> | HAH! |
| 17:26 | | * tjfontaine goes to get his money back :-) |
| 17:26 | <@caker> | :-p |
| 17:27 | <@caker> | Ultra fast-wide SATA 9000 |
| 17:27 | <tjfontaine> | ok, I never used to get into this whole customize the hell out of your desktop thing with transparency and icons.... |
| 17:27 | <@caker> | Right |
| 17:27 | <tjfontaine> | but I know see the fun in it |
| 17:27 | <tjfontaine> | I"m so much more comfortable heh |
| 17:27 | <Quik> | that reminds me, how come we haven't had a billing notice yet? |
| 17:27 | <Quik> | i always look forward to mine |
| 17:28 | <@caker> | Me too; I set it up to run on the morning of the last day of the month |
| 17:28 | <@caker> | ... so tomorrow morning |
| 17:28 | <Quik> | heh, i'm sure ya do ;) |
| 17:28 | <tjfontaine> | heh |
| 17:29 | <Quik> | i thought you did it about a week beforehand, probably getting mixed up with something else |
| 17:29 | <@caker> | No, you are correct |
| 17:29 | <@caker> | People suggested I move it later |
| 17:29 | <Quik> | ah ok |
| 17:29 | <Quik> | it's great you actually listen to your customers |
| 17:29 | <@caker> | what? |
| 17:29 | <@caker> | j/k :) |
| 17:29 | <Quik> | reverse dns = fantastic |
| 17:29 | <Quik> | :P |
| 17:29 | <@caker> | Cool |
| 17:31 | <@caker> | tjfontaine: whats the name of the widget that displays all sorts of sys info? |
| 17:31 | <@caker> | gkremmlin or something |
| 17:32 | <tjfontaine> | gkrellm |
| 17:32 | <shakr> | caker: is it possible to do reverse dns delegation? |
| 17:32 | <@caker> | yeah -- its pretty trick |
| 17:32 | <@caker> | shakr: it is possible, but I don't do it often |
| 17:32 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 17:32 | <@mikegrb> | special cases? ;) |
| 17:32 | <@caker> | yup |
| 17:33 | <shakr> | with the cpanel feature now i woulndt really need it but it'd be handy :) |
| 17:37 | <Quik> | i actually came in here to say something useful |
| 17:37 | <Quik> | can't remember for the life of me what it was |
| 17:38 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 17:38 | <@mikegrb> | got too caught up in the excitement of it all |
| 17:38 | <Quik> | i guess so :) |
| 17:38 | <tjfontaine> | we're damn exciting in here |
| 17:38 | <tjfontaine> | lemme tell you |
| 17:39 | <Quik> | i couldn't believe it when i came in |
| 17:39 | <Quik> | just overwhelmed :D |
| 17:39 | <tjfontaine> | I could tell by your irratic typing |
| 17:39 | <Quik> | irratic? |
| 17:39 | <Quik> | heh |
| 17:39 | <tjfontaine> | :-) |
| 17:39 | <tjfontaine> | time for me to depart, catch you all from home |
| 17:39 | <tjfontaine> | laters |
| 17:39 | <Quik> | cya mate |
| 18:04 | <Quik> | anyone know how to link up two chans on different networks? |
| 18:05 | <tjfontaine> | 2 eggdrop bots can do that |
| 18:05 | <Quik> | is it easy to do? |
| 18:05 | <tjfontaine> | or you could code it up yourself fairly painlessly |
| 18:05 | | * Quik isn't a coder ;) |
| 18:05 | <tjfontaine> | chose your poison really |
| 18:05 | <tjfontaine> | I've a bot written in php |
| 18:05 | <tjfontaine> | do you know php? |
| 18:05 | <tjfontaine> | thats how easy it is |
| 18:06 | <Quik> | nop |
| 18:06 | <Quik> | might google it actually |
| 18:06 | <tjfontaine> | php is webscripting language |
| 18:06 | <tjfontaine> | primarily anyway |
| 18:06 | <tjfontaine> | you could also do it in perl |
| 18:06 | <tjfontaine> | and most likely bash as well, though I wouldn't want to be the one to do it |
| 18:07 | <tjfontaine> | brb |
| 18:07 | <Quik> | ok |
| 18:10 | <@caker> | new machine is ordered :) |
| 18:11 | <@caker> | I did a 4GB ram this time |
| 18:11 | <@caker> | just for some new flavor |
| 18:12 | <Quik> | :o |
| 18:12 | <@caker> | Quik: what two channels did you want to combine? |
| 18:12 | <Quik> | what typa linode is this one gonna be running? |
| 18:12 | <@caker> | I'm not sure yet .. I've been pondering the idea of a Linode 96 plan ... |
| 18:12 | <Quik> | #linode on quakenet and in here |
| 18:12 | <@caker> | ahh |
| 18:13 | <Quik> | 94 would be popular indeed |
| 18:13 | <Quik> | i was stuck between 64 and 128 when i joined |
| 18:13 | <Quik> | 96 even :/ |
| 18:13 | <@caker> | Exactly |
| 18:13 | <@caker> | There's an entire crowd of "I don't want the bottom one, but double everything is too much" |
| 18:14 | <Quik> | people often have the idea in their head that the cheapest plan sucks too, so you can get out of it :) |
| 18:14 | <Quik> | yeah |
| 18:14 | <@caker> | right |
| 18:14 | <@caker> | heh |
| 18:14 | <Quik> | you mind if i look into the channel linking? |
| 18:14 | <@caker> | No, sounds good |
| 18:14 | <Quik> | kk |
| 18:16 | <@caker> | Quik: http://www.eggheads.org/support/egghtml/1.6.13/botnet.html |
| 18:17 | <Quik> | looks handy, thanks |
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| 18:32 | <@mikegrb> | caker you know the propper people so I shall bring this to your attention: |
| 18:32 | <@mikegrb> | <ElectricElf> This is known to work as is on 8.0 kernels. I believe it requires |
| 18:32 | <@mikegrb> | <ElectricElf> adding a few symbols to the syms file for Redhat 7.3. If you don't |
| 18:32 | <@mikegrb> | <ElectricElf> have those, then read the backgound and porting sections further below. |
| 18:32 | <@mikegrb> | * ElectricElf gags |
| 18:32 | <@mikegrb> | <ElectricElf> It's a totally non-RedHat-specific kernel module too. |
| 18:33 | <@mikegrb> | <mikegrb> what is that from? |
| 18:33 | <@mikegrb> | <ElectricElf> mikegrb: The UML SKAS patch in modulified form. |
| 18:37 | <@mikegrb> | that was from kernels.usermodelinux.org/host |
| 18:37 | <@mikegrb> | I don't know it that site is an official site or what it's relation to the project it |
| 18:37 | <@mikegrb> | er is |
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| 18:44 | <@adamgent> | hi |
| 18:45 | <@mikegrb> | hello |
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| 18:54 | <@adamgent> | damm |
| 18:54 | <@mikegrb> | indeed |
| 18:54 | <@adamgent> | and all i did was plug in a network cable |
| 18:54 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 18:55 | <@adamgent> | i didnt expect it to wreck the wireless card |
| 18:55 | <@adamgent> | it hasnt in the past |
| 18:56 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 18:59 | <@adamgent> | god damm windows |
| 18:59 | <@mikegrb> | ahhh |
| 19:00 | <@mikegrb> | make sense now |
| 19:00 | <@mikegrb> | I've done that tranission in windows before |
| 19:00 | <@mikegrb> | was nice to have continuity of connection |
| 19:07 | <@caker> | mikegrb: yeah, i usually spread the word about the skas(3)-as-a-module |
| 19:08 | <@caker> | How do you know EE? |
| 19:08 | <@caker> | He hangs in #uml |
| 19:08 | <tjfontaine> | electric elf? |
| 19:08 | <@mikegrb> | caker: whois me :) |
| 19:09 | <@mikegrb> | oh those channels are hidden |
| 19:09 | <tjfontaine> | lol |
| 19:09 | <@mikegrb> | anyway he brought this up in #oftc-staff |
| 19:09 | | * mikegrb bops tjfontaine on the head |
| 19:09 | <tjfontaine> | until very very recently no channels were secret on oftc |
| 19:09 | <@caker> | ahh |
| 19:10 | <@mikegrb> | he setup orion |
| 19:10 | <@caker> | Ahh |
| 19:10 | <@caker> | He's another one that get's me laughing (sarcasim) in #uml |
| 19:11 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 19:11 | <@mikegrb> | he's a great guy |
| 19:11 | <@mikegrb> | tjfontaine: yha there is a +p private +s secret |
| 19:12 | <@mikegrb> | +s doesn't even show up in whois unless the person is in the chan too |
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| 19:12 | <@mikegrb> | plus those channels have keys |
| 19:12 | <tjfontaine> | mikegrb: trust me when I say this, +s and +p did nothing until recent server restarts |
| 19:12 | <@mikegrb> | oh no biggie |
| 19:12 | <@mikegrb> | I don't take issue with that |
| 19:12 | <@mikegrb> | was just elaborating |
| 19:16 | <tjfontaine> | yup yup |
| 19:16 | | * mikegrb contemplates doing something |
| 19:16 | <@mikegrb> | hmm |
| 19:16 | | * mikegrb decides he doesn't feel like doing anything |
| 19:20 | -!- | guinea-pig is now known as guinea-sleep |
| 19:21 | | * mikegrb decides to take a nap instead |
| 19:21 | <@guinea-sleep> | heh |
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| 19:27 | <Artifex> | hi |
| 19:27 | <Artifex> | what are the ramifications of resizing a disk image? |
| 19:27 | <Artifex> | (while the installed distro is running, heh) |
| 19:29 | <Quik> | *bang* |
| 19:29 | <Quik> | :) |
| 19:29 | <@caker> | it won't let you |
| 19:29 | <@caker> | but you can shutdown, resize (up only, atm), and reboot .. |
| 19:29 | <Artifex> | hrmm |
| 19:29 | <Artifex> | k |
| 19:30 | <Artifex> | you know what would be a nice addition to uml? |
| 19:30 | <@caker> | if you resize a swap partition, you've got to unmount it and mkswap it again |
| 19:30 | <Artifex> | perhaps it exists already, but... |
| 19:30 | <Artifex> | state-suspension |
| 19:30 | <@caker> | yeah |
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| 19:30 | <@caker> | software suspend needs to be ported into UML |
| 19:31 | <Artifex> | if i wernt on 7 different projects right now, i'd look into it |
| 19:31 | <@caker> | Then I could freeze a Linode, move it to another host, and load it back up |
| 19:31 | <@caker> | swsp sounds tricky |
| 19:31 | <Artifex> | indeed |
| 19:32 | <Artifex> | but im a sucker for a nice low-level challange |
| 19:33 | <@caker> | hmm |
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| 19:34 | <Artifex> | paulproteus! |
| 19:34 | <Artifex> | hello! |
| 19:34 | <paulproteus> | Sssshhhh. |
| 19:34 | | * paulproteus whispers, "I'm just here to eavesdrop." |
| 19:35 | <paulproteus> | Stop looking at me like that! |
| 19:35 | <@caker> | that guy paul is a ... |
| 19:35 | <@caker> | oops |
| 19:35 | | * Artifex nudges caker and whispers (how's that referal program coming?) |
| 19:35 | | * tjfontaine closes eye... |
| 19:35 | <tjfontaine> | heh |
| 19:35 | | * Artifex claims dibs on p.p. |
| 19:36 | <tjfontaine> | I claim dibs on you |
| 19:36 | <Artifex> | too late, i'm already signed up |
| 19:36 | <tjfontaine> | mike gets a piece of us all then |
| 19:36 | <tjfontaine> | its retro active |
| 19:36 | <Artifex> | lol |
| 19:36 | <tjfontaine> | ;-) |
| 19:36 | <Artifex> | haha, i just spent an hour recoding large portions of xbeboot... got all excited to test... it failed... |
| 19:37 | <Artifex> | spent 20 minutes digging thru the code i'd changed |
| 19:37 | <Artifex> | here it turns out i left a die() somewhere earlier in the code, for testing purposes last night |
| 19:37 | <tjfontaine> | lol |
| 19:38 | <Artifex> | i was getting so frustrated i was starting to growl |
| 19:38 | <Artifex> | because it just didnt make ANY SENSE the way it was failing |
| 19:38 | <tjfontaine> | I don't like it wheny ou do that |
| 19:38 | <Artifex> | hehe |
| 19:38 | <tjfontaine> | it scares me |
| 19:38 | <Artifex> | grrr |
| 19:38 | | * tjfontaine runs and hides |
| 19:38 | | * tjfontaine whimpers |
| 19:39 | <Artifex> | ok, well, even with the die() removed it fails, but in a much less confusing way this time, heh |
| 19:40 | <@caker> | Another satisfied customer |
| 19:40 | <@caker> | I need to think more about a good referral setup |
| 19:40 | <Artifex> | i'm telling you... MLM... |
| 19:40 | <@caker> | heh |
| 19:41 | <Artifex> | i can teach you the secrets... |
| 19:41 | <tjfontaine> | hiss pyramid schemes |
| 19:41 | <Artifex> | floating payout percentages, upline bv skips, pinpoint seeding.... |
| 19:42 | <@caker> | geesh |
| 19:42 | <Artifex> | tjfontaine: you know one of the things we do at the place you're interviewing tomorrow is write and maintain an MLM package..... :-| |
| 19:42 | <@caker> | all in one cgi script |
| 19:42 | <tjfontaine> | Artifex: yes :-) |
| 19:42 | <Artifex> | HEH, k, just making sure you realized that. :-) |
| 19:42 | <Artifex> | oh, and... |
| 19:42 | <Artifex> | i'm sure this'll be explained to you |
| 19:42 | <Artifex> | but |
| 19:43 | <Artifex> | anytime you refer to it as a pyramid or a ponzi scheme |
| 19:43 | <Artifex> | you owe the spam can a dollar |
| 19:43 | <Artifex> | other dollar offenses: |
| 19:43 | <tjfontaine> | heh |
| 19:44 | <Artifex> | "that cant be done," "thats too hard," "thats not my job," and the word "whatever" :-) |
| 19:44 | <tjfontaine> | whatev... |
| 19:44 | <Artifex> | lol |
| 19:44 | <tjfontaine> | I'll make a whole new slang :-) |
| 19:45 | -!- | sunny [~sunny@69.22.246.177] has joined #linode |
| 19:46 | <Artifex> | brb |
| 19:48 | <Quik> | nn peeps :) |
| 19:51 | -!- | Quik is now known as quik |
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