| --- | Log | opened Sat Mar 13 00:00:08 2010 |
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| 00:10 | <srini> | Any command to get the monitor properties... |
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| 00:12 | <bja> | what is the bash equivalent for crypt? |
| 00:12 | <slb_> | i have a linux box and windows box and i set up samba to share files between them, however I also will be setting up a local development web server and I would like to be able to access it by name from windows, is that just a matter of setting the address of the linux box in my hosts file in windows or do i need to set up a dns or wins server on my linux box? |
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| 00:21 | <adb> | bja, now seems much better , thanks for your help |
| 00:21 | <bja> | adb: What was the problem finally? |
| 00:21 | <adb> | i suspect the BIOS , get wrong infos to kernel |
| 00:22 | <bja> | ok |
| 00:22 | <adb> | i stopped the machine 10 min |
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| 00:24 | <adb> | now [TZ00] (26 C) was (31 C) |
| 00:25 | <clocker> | Logged out and in, but still no change to local time and the timezone is wrong. Even on manual, it flips back before I can finish my changes. Tried sudo, root, and no go. Ideas? |
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| 00:27 | <ml|> | dpkg: set time |
| 00:27 | <dpkg> | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install <ntp> to have their clock set automatically on reboot and slewed to match time servers. You may also need to run dpkg-reconfigure tzdata (lenny and later) or tzconfig (etch and earlier) to set the time zone, and verify the UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS prior. |
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| 00:31 | <ml|> | but using openntpd or ntp would make things easier |
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| 00:32 | <clocker> | Thanks ml| |
| 00:32 | <ml|> | np |
| 00:32 | <clocker> | I've got ntp installed, but maybe not configured correctly |
| 00:33 | <ml|> | is it running? and is tzdata set corrrectly? |
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| 00:34 | <ml|> | are you in the us? |
| 00:34 | <clocker> | dpkg-reconfigure tzdata did the deed. Now to ensure ntp keeps it tight |
| 00:34 | <clocker> | gracias |
| 00:35 | <ml|> | !congratulate clocker |
| 00:35 | <dpkg> | Woohoo clocker, you did it! |
| 00:35 | <ml|> | np :) |
| 00:35 | <clocker> | Should learn to use the d**n bot... me |
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| 00:37 | <ml|> | clocker: /msg dpkg dpkgbot /msg dpkg help /msg dpkg msg the bot |
| 00:38 | <clocker> | Into the "handy" file that goes... |
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| 00:42 | <djkow> | is there way i can keep a process running after i log out? |
| 00:42 | <ml|> | yes, using screen |
| 00:43 | <adb> | & |
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| 00:50 | <djkow> | so if i append with & that will allow the program to run after logout? |
| 00:50 | <djkow> | ...background it? |
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| 01:04 | <servernoob> | !phpmyadmin |
| 01:04 | <dpkg> | phpMyAdmin is a tool written in PHP intended to handle MySQL administration over the Internet. Can create and drop databases, create/drop/alter tables, delete/edit/add fields, execute any SQL statement, and manage keys on fields. Read /usr/share/doc/phpmyadmin/README.Debian and run "dpkg-reconfigure phpmyadmin" to configure your web server. http://www.phpmyadmin.net/documentation/#faq #phpmyadmin on irc.freenode.net. |
| 01:05 | <ml|> | dpkg: tell servernoob about selftell |
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| 01:07 | <servernoob> | my bad |
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| 01:40 | <bob493> | what does 'proc' do in fstab? |
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| 01:44 | <ml|> | bob493: man proc and fstab |
| 01:46 | <bob493> | ml|: ok thanks |
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| 01:51 | <bob493> | when I'm running 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' and it prompts for "Locales to be generated:", I should choose "en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8" for a standard 'english/US' setting right? |
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| 01:53 | <ml|> | that should be default |
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| 01:54 | <bob493> | ml|: ok thanks again ;) |
| 01:54 | <ml|> | np |
| 01:55 | <bob493> | ok another problem :( |
| 01:57 | <bob493> | I'm installing 'lvm2' and it starts throwing errors: "Setting up LVM Volume Groups /proc/mounts: fopen %s failed: No such file or directory" |
| 01:57 | <bob493> | "/proc/devices: fopen failed: No such file or directory" |
| 01:57 | <bob493> | "Failed to create lvm type filter" |
| 01:58 | <bob493> | this is a debootstrap install too :P |
| 01:59 | <ml|> | bob493: /msg dpkg lvm and ask again in a bit for help if you don't get help now |
| 02:00 | <bob493> | k thanks ml| |
| 02:00 | <bob493> | maybe I'll go to the #lvm freenode channel and ask :) |
| 02:01 | <ml|> | can't hurt, good luck |
| 02:01 | <bob493> | :D thanks |
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| 02:08 | <bob493> | so with debootstrap what do I have to add to the boot file? kernel+Grub right? anything else? |
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| 02:10 | <ml|> | bob493: /msg dpkg debootstrap might help |
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| 02:11 | <ml|> | and install guide if you haven't already |
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| 02:13 | <bob493> | ml|: yeah I've looked at the install guide too.... but it hasn't helped a whole lot :P |
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| 02:13 | <bob493> | thanks for the tips though :) |
| 02:14 | <bob493> | I think I almost have this debootstrap thing..... |
| 02:14 | <bob493> | I think my problem with lvm2 is that... even though I edited 'etc/fstab' i didn't mount the stuff |
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| 02:14 | <bob493> | listed in it |
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| 02:35 | <bob493> | I've edited my /etc/fstab to point a separate partition '/dev/sda1' to the boot '/boot'... but when I run the command "mount -a" (to mount fstab) it says that "mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist"??? |
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| 02:37 | <bob493> | what am I doing wrong? I've tried it using "/dev/sda1" and using "UUID=[the uuid of /dev/sda1]"... both give the same error when I run "mount -a" |
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| 02:39 | <sig_wall> | seems that /dev/sda1 does not exist |
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| 02:39 | <sig_wall> | may be /dev/sdb1, /dev/hda1, etc. |
| 02:40 | <bob493> | yeah I checked with 'fdisk -l' and its /dev/sda1 :( |
| 02:40 | <bob493> | I have chrooted into the install though... I'm guessing it has something to do with that |
| 02:41 | <bob493> | but I'm not sure :( ??? |
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| 02:44 | <tholmith> | bob493, exit the chroot with Ctrl+D and do: mount --bind /dev /mnt/chroot_dir/dev |
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| 02:45 | <tholmith> | replace /mnt/chroot_dir with the path to the chroot. note that you will have to remount /dev/pts inside the chroot if you need it. |
| 02:45 | <tholmith> | and inside the chroot do mount -a again and see what it says |
| 02:46 | <bob493> | ok... should I add '/dev/pts' and '/dev/sysfs' to the /etc/fstab also? |
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| 02:46 | <tholmith> | no. only proc is needed in fstab |
| 02:46 | <bob493> | I've already added /dev/proc to /etc/fstab |
| 02:46 | <bob493> | ok let me try it... thanks ;) |
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| 02:48 | <bob493> | tholmith: I'm doing this install with debootstrap through a liveCD of debian... would that alter the command 'mount --bind /dev /mnt/chroot_dir/dev'? |
| 02:50 | <tholmith> | not sure i understand your question... bind mounting /dev will give you acces to the 'real' /dev not to the one in the chroot. is what i did to install grub-pc on my debootstrap. i finished install yesterday after 2 months of strugling... |
| 02:51 | <tholmith> | are you using a tutorial or something like that to do the install? |
| 02:52 | <bob493> | not really... but I am using a lot of peoples' guides... |
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| 02:53 | <tholmith> | i was using a lot of peoples' guides too... but, i didn't do mount -a |
| 02:54 | <bob493> | what I've done is this.... I'm running debian currently off of a Debian LiveCD.... I split the HD I'm trying to install Debian into 2 partitions, a boot partition and a root partition... then I encrypted the root partition and divided it into 2 logical volumes (rootLV and swapLV) |
| 02:55 | <tholmith> | hehe, exactly what i was strugling with... |
| 02:55 | <bob493> | I installed debian using debootstrap to my rootLV |
| 02:55 | <bob493> | lol :) |
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| 02:55 | <tholmith> | if you're not in a hurry, you can wait a bit till i scan the notes i made and post them as pics, before making them text... |
| 02:57 | <bob493> | well I'm kinda in a rush lol |
| 02:57 | <tholmith> | or you can wait till i finish editing the text since the notes are kinda borked... |
| 02:57 | <tholmith> | like a half hour or a bit more... |
| 02:57 | <bob493> | I've kinda been taking notes too :) so I can do it again and don't forget |
| 02:58 | <bob493> | wow ok thats great! :D |
| 02:58 | <tholmith> | much less than 2 months... :-" |
| 02:59 | <bob493> | lol yeah :) |
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| 03:02 | <chl> | when i configure kernel 2.6.33, it says ata/atapi/... is deprecated, which section I need to go into so that I can configure for my IDE hard disk? |
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| 03:12 | <tholmith> | bob493, might take more than a hour, but am doing this right now, so if you wait you should be ok. :D |
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| 03:17 | <sig_wall> | chl: "Serial ATA and Parallel ATA drivers" |
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| 03:19 | <bob493> | tholmith: yeah that's fine :) I'll be around for a few more hours |
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| 03:38 | <cenobyte> | anyone on tonight ? |
| 03:39 | <tholmith> | 10:39am here, so i think i can say 'no'. lol |
| 03:39 | <cenobyte> | lol |
| 03:40 | <cenobyte> | maybe you can help me ? |
| 03:40 | <cahoot> | !ask |
| 03:40 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 03:40 | <cenobyte> | im trying to install mencoder on lenny but it doesnt show up in synaptic |
| 03:41 | <cenobyte> | How do i install mencoder? |
| 03:41 | <cahoot> | I think you want debian.multimedia - /msg dpkg dmm |
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| 03:44 | <cenobyte> | dmm really isnt helping me i did post on the debian user forums hopefully someone responds to that later |
| 03:44 | <cahoot> | also (bsedie the point) you might consider using aptitude instead |
| 03:44 | <cahoot> | beside |
| 03:44 | <cenobyte> | i did mencoder isnt in the repos |
| 03:44 | <bob493> | cenobyte: you will probably have to add debian multimedia to your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 03:45 | <cenobyte> | how do i do that |
| 03:45 | <bob493> | cenobyte: open up your terminal and type |
| 03:45 | <bob493> | # sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 03:45 | <bob493> | go to the bottom |
| 03:45 | <cenobyte> | ok |
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| 03:46 | <cahoot> | cenobyte: /msg dpkg dmm lenny - follow directions |
| 03:46 | <bob493> | and add the line "deb ftp://ftp.debian-multimedia.org lenny main non-free" |
| 03:47 | <bob493> | then hit Ctrl+o and then Ctrl+x |
| 03:47 | <cenobyte> | ok i did that |
| 03:47 | <bob493> | ok now download this to your desktop: http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/d/debian-multimedia-keyring/debian-multimedia-keyring_2008.10.16_all.deb |
| 03:48 | <bob493> | then run this in the terminal |
| 03:48 | <bob493> | # dpkg -i Desktop/debian-multimedia-keyring_2008.10.16_all.deb |
| 03:48 | <bob493> | oh with sudo :P |
| 03:49 | <cahoot> | presuming an ubuntuish setup? |
| 03:49 | <bob493> | # sudo dpkg -i Desktop/debian-multimedia-keyring_2008.10.16_all.deb |
| 03:49 | <cenobyte> | ok got it |
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| 03:49 | <bob493> | ok so now run this in the terminal: # sudo aptitude update |
| 03:50 | <bob493> | now mencoder should show up in synaptic |
| 03:50 | <bob493> | :D |
| 03:50 | <cenobyte> | thnxs bob im able to install mencoder now |
| 03:50 | <cenobyte> | :) |
| 03:50 | <bob493> | np :) |
| 03:50 | <tholmith> | bob493, on debian, sudo has to be configured with visudo, or the user that will use sudo has to be in group sudo. quite interesting it worked for cenobyte... |
| 03:51 | <bob493> | tholmith: oh yeah I always forget that since I always visudo myself on a new install :) |
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| 03:56 | <bob493> | cenobyte: by the way you can delete that "keyring.deb" on the desktop :) |
| 03:56 | <tholmith> | bob493, half of the howto is done, the other half might take some time more... |
| 03:56 | <cenobyte> | ok |
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| 03:57 | <cenobyte> | im really enjoying debian |
| 03:57 | <cenobyte> | i left ubuntu because of pulseaudio |
| 03:58 | <cahoot> | disabling PA wasn't an option? |
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| 03:58 | <bob493> | tholmith: so will that 'mount --bind /dev /dev/chroot_dir/dev work for that boot partition problem I was having? |
| 03:59 | <bob493> | is that what worked for you? |
| 03:59 | <bikerboy> | hii |
| 03:59 | <cenobyte> | i tried and for some reason every time i disabled pulse audio i lost sound even though i had alsa installed |
| 04:00 | <cenobyte> | anyway i find debian more flexible then ubuntu |
| 04:00 | <tholmith> | bob493, mostly yes, but not sure... |
| 04:00 | <tholmith> | what i mean is that i didn't had that problem... |
| 04:00 | <bob493> | cenobyte it could be because of ubuntu's use of testing packages :P |
| 04:01 | <bob493> | ok let me try it then :) |
| 04:01 | <tholmith> | doing the install on a different system? |
| 04:01 | <bob493> | no :) |
| 04:02 | <bob493> | LiveCD |
| 04:02 | <cenobyte> | im just glad debian doesnt use it |
| 04:02 | <cenobyte> | i often switch between a usb headset and my onboard sound and with pulse it was a headache to do it |
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| 04:03 | <tholmith> | bob493, lenny right? and you want to install lenny, squeeze or sid? |
| 04:04 | <bob493> | yeah lenny :) |
| 04:04 | <bob493> | I think your command work like a charm :D |
| 04:04 | <bob493> | *worked |
| 04:04 | <bob493> | genius :) |
| 04:05 | <chl1> | i re compile the kernel on virtualbox |
| 04:05 | <tholmith> | bob493, it shoudl be mount --bind /dev /chroot_dir/dev not mount --bind /dev /dev/chroot_dir/dev |
| 04:05 | <bikerboy> | hey can anyone tell me how to perform |
| 04:05 | <bikerboy> | dns spoofing |
| 04:05 | <chl1> | but it always complains that block is not found |
| 04:05 | <chl1> | it looks like ATA/... not configured correctly |
| 04:06 | <chl1> | which module I need to tick so that it can boot?? |
| 04:06 | <bob493> | thomith: yeah I used the command 'mount --bind /dev /mnt/root/dev' because I have the rootLV mounted to '/mnt/root' |
| 04:06 | <bob493> | :) |
| 04:08 | <tholmith> | bob493, here is a preliminary review, still with bugs/missing things i think: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/7cfda389/ |
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| 04:08 | <tholmith> | also i forgot to say before, i've done this with sid not with lenny... |
| 04:09 | <tholmith> | will expire in 1 hour though. :P |
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| 04:09 | <bob493> | k thanks I'll grab it :) |
| 04:12 | <bob493> | tholmith: for cryptsetup you should consider using ESSIV instead of plain with your cipher it adds protection |
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| 04:13 | <erorrs> | i am havin kde-crash in kubuntu 9.10 |
| 04:13 | <tholmith> | depends on the cipher. i used aes-xts not aes-cbc. xts does IV in a different way. |
| 04:13 | <bob493> | ahh yeah I see that |
| 04:13 | <erorrs> | what i will do? |
| 04:14 | <cahoot> | erorrs: join an ubuntu channel |
| 04:14 | <cahoot> | erorrs: like #ubuntu on freenode.net |
| 04:14 | <tholmith> | erorrs, ask on #kubuntu on freenode.net |
| 04:14 | <ml|> | erorrs: this for debian only /join #ubuntu on freenode |
| 04:14 | <erorrs> | the bot kicked me cant get in there |
| 04:14 | <ml|> | ah, kubuntu |
| 04:16 | <erorrs> | what i do? |
| 04:16 | <ml|> | erorrs: sorry, but you are offtopic here; only for debian support in here |
| 04:17 | <erorrs> | atleast tell me how to get in there .the bot kicked me |
| 04:18 | <ml|> | erorrs: /join #freenode; you might get help there to get in channel |
| 04:18 | <chl1> | hi I get this message `not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unkown block(0,0)'. in ATA/ATAPI/ ...(deprecated) section, which module I need to tick so that this message may go away? |
| 04:18 | <bob493> | tholmith: I used ctr not xts because I was worried about the xts module still being experimental :) |
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| 04:19 | <tholmith> | bob493, dunno what to say. to use xts i had to install sid. not sure what is the status of squeeze. i don't think lenny suports it yet, but i might be totally wrong... |
| 04:20 | <tholmith> | i mean 'yet', as in it might support it with some modifications... |
| 04:20 | <bob493> | the last time I checked the linux kernel xts was still experimental... that was about a month ago |
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| 04:21 | <tholmith> | :O |
| 04:22 | <bob493> | I was told that since xts was "experimental" it could lead to a full cryptosystem compromise... and was advised to use ctr-essiv :P |
| 04:22 | <bob493> | I was going to use xts too, before this friend told me this lol :) |
| 04:24 | <tholmith> | dunno what to say. is quite stable for me on sid. also used in openbsd where is the 'default' recommendation... |
| 04:25 | <bob493> | I though I'd share it because it was unknown to me until a couple of days ago... It's probably a paranoid recommendation :) |
| 04:26 | <bikerboy> | is dere any way for dns spoofing |
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| 04:30 | <bob493> | tholmith: your guide looks exactly what I've done :) lol |
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| 04:30 | <bob493> | bikerboy: I think there is, but I don't know how to do it :P |
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| 04:30 | <tholmith> | bikerboy, what do you actually want to do? there are some ways, but i guess you should google more... |
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| 04:33 | <tholmith> | bob493, if you are not going to use the howto to install sid, i think i can leave it like that for today... if you change your mind and want to swith to sid later to get xts, i hope i'll finish the howto till then... |
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| 04:33 | <tholmith> | finish as in fix the text and duble check. |
| 04:34 | <tholmith> | s/swith/switch |
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| 04:37 | <bob493> | tholmith: that's fine. thanks for your help :) I have one more question... |
| 04:37 | <bob493> | Does grub-pc install the Grub boot loader to the boot drive? |
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| 04:42 | <flo`> | hi |
| 04:42 | <flo`> | i've running debian lenny wit xfce as DE, and i'd like to lock my screen. just a blank screen an a password box. is that possible? |
| 04:43 | <flo`> | xflock4 does not work, because there's no xlock |
| 04:44 | <chl1> | x-screensaver? |
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| 04:47 | <EmleyMoor> | I'm not sure if the feature I want to request should be a feature of iceweasel or PrefBar - I want to have UA-spoofing individually per tab |
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| 04:49 | <flo`> | when i have wicd installed, do the networking and the ifupdown scripts still need to start? |
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| 04:57 | <flo`> | chl1, xscreensaver looks like it can do much more than i want ;) |
| 04:57 | <flo`> | "client-server model" etc |
| 04:58 | <flo`> | is tere a lightweight alternative? |
| 04:58 | <flo`> | *there |
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| 05:25 | <EmleyMoor> | Is there a safe way to get UFS rw support in Debian? |
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| 05:28 | <locklace> | EmleyMoor: http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/filesystems/ufs.txt |
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| 05:30 | <EmleyMoor> | Ah, so for 44BSD it's supported at least for some kernels? Right... |
| 05:30 | <EmleyMoor> | (and ufs2) |
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| 05:30 | <tholmith> | bob493, sorry for delay. depends on grub version. bind mount /dev to be able to use it. on lenny i think you have to do: aptitude install grub-pc && grub-install /dev/hda1 && update-grub |
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| 05:33 | <bob493> | tholmith: np... I think i figured it out... I installed grub-pc and it just kinda auto-configured I think :) |
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| 05:34 | <tholmith> | bob493, i think you have to do grub-install /dev/hd1 and update-grub anyway. |
| 05:35 | <bob493> | tholmith: ok thanks... I'll have to do that later... I'm installing gnome now and it's taking forever :) |
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| 05:37 | <tholmith> | i used tasksel install standard and then from the tasksel interface i installed desktop. this way it will get almost everything |
| 05:38 | <bob493> | tholmith: when you installed the linux kernel did you tell you needed additional firmware for your graphics card? |
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| 05:40 | <LORO> | OLA |
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| 05:40 | <tholmith> | bob493, in normal situations you don't need. most graphics cards work out of the box. if you want 3d aceleration on nvidia or ati you might need to use some proprietary drivers. but that isn't officially supported. i do use proprietary nvidia though. this might be you'r need anyway. |
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| 05:41 | <bob493> | I have an x1600 ati |
| 05:42 | <locklace> | bob493: installing the firmware-linux package is a good idea |
| 05:42 | <bob493> | I was looking under the sid linux-kernel and it said firmware for some things... but under the squeeze linux-kernel it didn't say anything... I installed the squeeze kernel.... I was just curious |
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| 05:43 | <bob493> | locklace: is that for squeeze too? |
| 05:43 | <locklace> | ,versions firmware-linux |
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| 05:43 | <judd> | firmware-linux -- lenny-backports/non-free: 0.17~bpo50+1; squeeze/non-free: 0.22; sid/non-free: 0.23 |
| 05:44 | <bob493> | locklace: ok thanks |
| 05:45 | <tholmith> | that will install firmware-linux-free and firmware-linux-nonfree. if you want to use only free software you can install just firmware-linux-free. |
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| 05:46 | <bob493> | tholmith: thats good to know. thanks :) |
| 05:46 | <tholmith> | also note that since firmware-linux is in non-free you'll have to add non-free to the sources.list |
| 05:46 | <bob493> | tholmith: yeah |
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| 05:49 | <Iffi> | iii |
| 05:50 | <locklace> | !pk |
| 05:50 | <dpkg> | methinks pk is .pk for Pakistan |
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| 06:12 | <manolo> | fg |
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| 06:14 | <ismael> | holoa |
| 06:14 | <ismael> | hola |
| 06:14 | <ismael> | you spicking spanish |
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| 06:15 | <cockroach> | !es |
| 06:15 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 06:15 | <ismael> | hola |
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| 06:16 | <ismael> | for wath my bored |
| 06:17 | <ismael> | for that my bored |
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| 06:17 | <ismael> | hello |
| 06:17 | <deavid> | ismael: hello |
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| 06:18 | <ismael> | It(He,She) is someone is? |
| 06:18 | <ismael> | ok |
| 06:18 | <ismael> | hello |
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| 06:18 | <ismael> | deavid: you spicking spanish |
| 06:18 | <locklace> | !es-social ismael |
| 06:18 | <dpkg> | ismael: Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador, por favor vaya a otro canal. Si necesitas soporte con Debian en Espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
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| 06:19 | <ismael> | locklace: do we speak in spanish? |
| 06:20 | <locklace> | no |
| 06:20 | <ismael> | for that? |
| 06:21 | <ismael> | is my language |
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| 06:21 | <EmleyMoor> | !es |
| 06:21 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 06:21 | <ismael> | it is my lenguage |
| 06:21 | <locklace> | ismael: /join #debian-es |
| 06:21 | <deavid> | ismael: you have to understand that this channel is for english speakers; |
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| 06:22 | <ismael> | ok |
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| 06:23 | <ismael> | symp: hello |
| 06:23 | * | tholmith LOL |
| 06:24 | <ismael> | you spicking spanish? |
| 06:24 | <ml|> | !unbuntu-es ismael |
| 06:24 | <deavid> | lol |
| 06:24 | <ml|> | !ubuntu-es ismael |
| 06:24 | <dpkg> | ismael: Ubuntu esta basado en Debian, pero no es Debian, y dificilmente tendra los estandares de Debian. Solo Debian es soportado en #debian. Por favor conectese a #ubuntu-es en irc.freenode.net Ahi recibira mas soporte. |
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| 06:24 | <deavid> | i feel that those people doesn't use Linux at all |
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| 06:24 | <ismael> | we speak in spanish? |
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| 06:25 | <ml|> | ismael: xchat 2.8.6 Ubuntu |
| 06:25 | <EmleyMoor> | ismael: You have beet advised that this is an English-speaking channel. Please do not attempt to solicit conversation in Spanish |
| 06:25 | <EmleyMoor> | been, even |
| 06:25 | <ismael> | already |
| 06:25 | <ml|> | heh |
| 06:25 | <EmleyMoor> | Damn my Dvorak typos |
| 06:26 | * | babilen gets some popcorn |
| 06:26 | <deavid> | ahhh, so that's the problem. They are people using Ubuntu, and using the default chat in the distro |
| 06:26 | <ismael> | bye bye |
| 06:26 | <locklace> | i think we should start billing canonical by the minute |
| 06:26 | <ml|> | deavid: it's a long story ;) |
| 06:26 | <ismael> | xao |
| 06:26 | <cockroach> | is #debian the default in ubuntu? |
| 06:26 | <ml|> | no |
| 06:26 | <tholmith> | i wonder how they get in here... |
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| 06:26 | <ismael_> | lo |
| 06:26 | <bob493> | lol |
| 06:27 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 384] by debhelper |
| 06:27 | <deavid> | lol |
| 06:27 | <ismael_> | hello |
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| 06:27 | <bremner> | ml|: it was in xchat for a long time though |
| 06:27 | <ismael_> | already i am again |
| 06:27 | <deavid> | ml|: today i don't have time for stories, but if someone has a blog post, it would be funny to read it |
| 06:27 | <ml|> | bremner: yes I know it still is ;) |
| 06:28 | <ismael_> | my lenguage is spanish? |
| 06:28 | <ml|> | !ubuntu-es ismael_ |
| 06:28 | <dpkg> | ismael_: Ubuntu esta basado en Debian, pero no es Debian, y dificilmente tendra los estandares de Debian. Solo Debian es soportado en #debian. Por favor conectese a #ubuntu-es en irc.freenode.net Ahi recibira mas soporte. |
| 06:28 | <ismael_> | someone is spicking spanish? |
| 06:28 | <ml|> | maybe if we ignore he will go away? |
| 06:28 | <babilen> | just ignore the troll |
| 06:28 | <deavid> | yes |
| 06:28 | <deavid> | ignore the troll |
| 06:29 | <ismael_> | It is all the same to me that the chat is in English |
| 06:29 | * | tholmith LOL |
| 06:29 | <deavid> | ismael_: google translate won't help you here. |
| 06:29 | -!- | mode/#debian [+q *!*@85.56.41.125] by ChanServ |
| 06:30 | <ml|> | bremner: /ctcp ismael version and you will see |
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| 06:30 | <NuD> | !es |
| 06:30 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 06:35 | <tholmith> | ml|, remember astomith? |
| 06:36 | <ml|> | tholmith: /j #debian-offtopic please |
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| 06:37 | <aja> | #debian-es |
| 06:38 | <locklace> | !lart aja |
| 06:38 | * | dpkg whacks aja with the cluebat |
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| 06:38 | <babilen> | !ubuntu-es aja |
| 06:38 | <dpkg> | aja: Ubuntu esta basado en Debian, pero no es Debian, y dificilmente tendra los estandares de Debian. Solo Debian es soportado en #debian. Por favor conectese a #ubuntu-es en irc.freenode.net Ahi recibira mas soporte. |
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| 06:50 | <peej> | how can I play the radio at http://www.jamendo.com/en/radio/rock from firefox? I can pick up the .m3u and play it with for i in `grep stream jamendo-playlist.m3u` ; do mplayer "$i"; done ; but that isn't too handy. |
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| 06:51 | <peej> | (I'm using lenny) |
| 06:52 | <peej> | (and debian-multimedia) |
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| 06:54 | <abrotman> | peej: isn't there a mozilla-mplayer plugin ? |
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| 07:21 | <peej> | abrotman, thanks, that was what I was missing. |
| 07:22 | <abrotman> | glad it worked |
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| 07:28 | <peej> | Abrotman, uh, but how do I know what track is playing now? |
| 07:29 | <abrotman> | peej: i know it exists .. i don't use it |
| 07:29 | <abrotman> | can't you hover over it or something ? |
| 07:30 | <abrotman> | peej: wait a moment .. guide me to which link you're trying to play |
| 07:30 | <peej> | ah, now (on 2nd track) it's showing what is playing. Also, right click gives a save as option, which lets me know what track it is. |
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| 07:32 | <abrotman> | when i click play .. it spawns a window and starts a little flash player (i think it's flash( |
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| 07:33 | <peej_> | http://www.jamendo.com/en/playlist/62599 is what I was using. I'm not using a recent flash I guess. |
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| 07:34 | <abrotman> | or you disabled popups perhaps ? |
| 07:35 | <abrotman> | yeah .. it just keeps popping up a player for me |
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| 07:41 | <jon__> | nforce forcedeth driver giving problem , no RX on ethernet port any solutions pls ? |
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| 07:42 | <jon__> | Any helps for nvidia nforce forcedeth driver problem ? |
| 07:42 | <jon__> | <jon__> The ethernet port shows up .. but no Rx indication , frame errors reported on rx |
| 07:42 | <peej_> | abrotman, pop-ups were allowed, no flash popped up though. |
| 07:43 | <abrotman> | peej_: weird .. 'It Just Works' .. for me |
| 07:43 | <abrotman> | peej_: i was using FF .. when i used epiphany, it did download the m3u |
| 07:43 | <peej_> | abrotman, you have a standard lenny? |
| 07:43 | <babilen> | peej_: NO popup at all? It works here as well - listening to it right now :) |
| 07:43 | <abrotman> | peej_: this mahcine is squeeze |
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| 07:44 | <abrotman> | peej_: actually .. epiphany can't even display the page properly .. so ignore thta epiphany is even pretending to be a browser |
| 07:45 | <jon__> | ephiphany has only basic rendering capabilities |
| 07:45 | <jon__> | try opera or mozillz |
| 07:45 | <abrotman> | jon__: not quite .. it's webkit .. should be capable, but it's buggy as hell |
| 07:45 | <peej_> | I guess it's flash then. I can't play youtube from the browser either apparently 'cos it's too old. |
| 07:45 | <abrotman> | peej_: /msg dpkg bpo .. get the flashplugin-nonfree from there perhaps |
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| 07:45 | <babilen> | peej_: You could install flashplugin-nonfree from backports |
| 07:45 | <jon__> | youtube requires flash support |
| 07:45 | <jon__> | flash plugin must be installed |
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| 07:46 | <abrotman> | he has one installed, but it's too old he says |
| 07:47 | <jon__> | but do a flash plugin test available at http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/155/tn_15507.html |
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| 07:47 | <jon__> | this verifies plugin presence in ephiphany |
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| 07:48 | <abrotman> | anyways ... |
| 07:49 | <peej_> | jon__, thanks. Oddly enough, adobe thinks I have the latest linux version |
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| 07:49 | <valdyn> | peej_: did you check "about:plugins" to see what is really handling your flash content? |
| 07:50 | <jon__> | so your plugin installation is correct ? Does it show Video and Audio Capability status |
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| 07:50 | <peej_> | ah, hang-on, no-script was blocking some other stuff (ytimg.com). Unblocked that, and youtube is now running ok. |
| 07:51 | <peej_> | (still like the clive package though ;-) ) |
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| 07:51 | <jon__> | congrats peej |
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| 07:52 | <jon__> | Any friends with nvdia nforce ethernet card .. ? |
| 07:54 | <peej_> | jon__, have you checked the cable and card by swapping? |
| 07:54 | <jon__> | Ya, i changed cable ... No results |
| 07:55 | <jon__> | ethernet port comes up and but doesnt show up any Rx bytes |
| 07:55 | <jon__> | Rx count remains zero |
| 07:55 | <peej_> | has it ever worked? |
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| 07:55 | <jon__> | But Rx shows errors and frame errors |
| 07:55 | <jo> | any idea how to force monitor sync range? got problems with my mga driver and screen resolution |
| 07:56 | <jon__> | yes it was working fine ... then stopped working ... once worked again in knoppix |
| 07:56 | <jon__> | many guys got same problem ( searched google ) |
| 07:56 | <abrotman> | jo: does X work at all? |
| 07:56 | <jo> | abrotman: yes, but wrong resolution |
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| 07:57 | <peej_> | jon__, done a kernel upgrade or something like that recently that may have broken it? |
| 07:57 | <abrotman> | jo: tried 'xrandr' ? |
| 07:57 | <jo> | abrotman: no |
| 07:57 | <jon__> | I was using the latest one in ubuntu Karmic Coala .. |
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| 07:57 | <jo> | abrotman: how? |
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| 07:58 | <abrotman> | jo: it's a program |
| 07:58 | <jon__> | research indicates that the forcedeth has a bug that sets some wrong registers in the device |
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| 07:58 | <abrotman> | jon__: so what is your current 'uname -r' ? |
| 07:58 | <jon__> | the problem presists in windows also |
| 07:59 | <abrotman> | sounds like a hardware problem |
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| 07:59 | <peej_> | jon__, once upon a time I had a via-rhine that croaked on kernel upgrade. I recompiled the viarhine subtree from earlier kernel source that time. You could try the knoppix code? |
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| 08:00 | <peej_> | jon__, oh, and have you consider the switch may be flakey? |
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| 08:00 | <jon__> | right now im not running linux .. ( i m in windows ) .. With knopixx it worked once and for subsequent boots the it didnt work |
| 08:00 | <peej_> | jon__, hot boots? cold boots? both? |
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| 08:01 | <jon__> | yes both , even removed laptop battery once |
| 08:01 | <abrotman> | jon__: so which version of Debian are you using? |
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| 08:01 | <jon__> | The switch is fine .. I tried back to back pc connection with a cross cable |
| 08:02 | <jon__> | didn't work |
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| 08:02 | <Roms> | Hi, I have a problem when I try to start kde on Debian live, I have the following message "/usr/bin/startx: line 141: /iusr/bin/mcookie: Input/output error Couldn't create cookie" |
| 08:02 | <peej_> | yeah, jon__, out with it, which version of debian? |
| 08:02 | <jo> | abrotman: I don't understand how to force resolution with xrandr |
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| 08:02 | <jon__> | in ifconfig eth0 errors are reported and frame errors are present |
| 08:02 | <abrotman> | jo: if you just type 'xrandr' .. it should show you a list of resolutions |
| 08:02 | <valdyn> | Roms: that error means that one block device its trying to write to is broken |
| 08:03 | <valdyn> | Roms: that could be your harddisk |
| 08:03 | <jon__> | right no no debian .. i was using it for a long time .. recently switched to ubuntu .. |
| 08:03 | <jon__> | but now no linux .. i have to install one |
| 08:03 | <Roms> | valdyn, it is a live cd so it shouldn't be my hdd |
| 08:03 | <jo> | abrotman: ok, but not the right one |
| 08:03 | <abrotman> | jon__: then please go ask #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net |
| 08:03 | <valdyn> | Roms: it is whatever block device it is trying to write to |
| 08:03 | <abrotman> | jo: MGA card? can you put the 'xrandr' in a pastebin (paste.debian.net) |
| 08:04 | <jo> | abrotman: yes, http://pastebin.com/AvmsWaV2 |
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| 08:05 | <Roms> | valdyn, but at first, at boot it tried to launch kde (and i got my usual message with my config "cannot display...." |
| 08:05 | <jo> | abrotman: I have 1024*678 |
| 08:05 | <Roms> | and some f**** is trying to hack my wifi |
| 08:05 | <abrotman> | jo: if you type 'aptitude install xorg' .. does it want to install anything ? |
| 08:05 | <Roms> | (this is why i get disconnected, sorry) |
| 08:05 | <jon__> | Ok i will chk that .. . I will try ubuntu karmic coala , compile latest kernel |
| 08:05 | <jon__> | thanks everybody .. |
| 08:06 | <Roms> | So i had to edit xorg.conf, but now it just simply doesn't want to launch x |
| 08:06 | <jo> | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/1sDh5tEm |
| 08:07 | <abrotman> | jo: so let it install those .. restart X .. also what is 'lspci -nn | grep VGA' .. you can paste that single line here |
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| 08:08 | <Roums> | Ok |
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| 08:08 | <Roums> | I plugged an rj45 cable for now... |
| 08:08 | <Roums> | I hate Wifi in big towns and those deauth attacks |
| 08:08 | <jo> | abrotman: 1:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G400/G450 [102b:0525] (rev 82) |
| 08:09 | <abrotman> | thta's an old card .. shold work fine |
| 08:09 | <jo> | abrotman: is there a command to restart x? |
| 08:09 | <abrotman> | jo: what's in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? |
| 08:09 | <abrotman> | judd: xorg 102b:0525 |
| 08:09 | <judd> | In lenny, device 102b:0525 is matched by xorg driver: 'mga'. |
| 08:09 | <jo> | abrotman: noting |
| 08:09 | <jon__> | bye |
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| 08:10 | <abrotman> | jo: do you have a /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ? |
| 08:10 | <inet> | hi |
| 08:10 | <jon__> | hi inet |
| 08:10 | <inet> | hi |
| 08:10 | <jo> | abrotman: no |
| 08:10 | <inet> | how r u |
| 08:10 | <jon__> | fine |
| 08:10 | <abrotman> | jo: restart X (logout/login) .. then paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 08:11 | <jo> | abrotman: k |
| 08:11 | <abrotman> | inet: do you have a Debian question ? |
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| 08:11 | <abrotman> | or not |
| 08:11 | <jon__> | no not right now ... |
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| 08:11 | <jon__> | i m new to irc .. just observing this orc world |
| 08:11 | <Roums> | So, if I just boot on the Cd i have "Couldn't use this display mode" something like that... so i edit xorg.conf, and can't launch x because of the message I wrote before |
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| 08:12 | <Roums> | On tty2 i see "module is unknown" displayed |
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| 08:13 | <jon__> | Roums .what abt the Xorg log |
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| 08:14 | <jo> | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/dgFtwqzT |
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| 08:15 | <abrotman> | jo: and your /etc/X11/xorg.conf is 100% empty/missing ? |
| 08:16 | <jo> | abrotman: yes |
| 08:16 | <jon__> | try dpkg-reconfigure for xserver-xorg |
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| 08:17 | <jon__> | i don't rem the cmd .. i m in win now |
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| 08:19 | <jon__> | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 08:19 | <jo> | if you don't mind I try to find an solution with abrotman first... |
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| 08:19 | <abrotman> | jon__: that doesn't do anything anymore |
| 08:20 | <abrotman> | well .. nothing to solve this |
| 08:20 | <jo> | I heard sories about bad maintainership for mga driver in debian |
| 08:20 | <jon__> | ok thats fine .. no probs |
| 08:20 | <abrotman> | jo: you may want to ask #debian-x .. it seems that the mga driver is failing for no real stated reason that I can see |
| 08:21 | <jo> | abrotman: ok, thank you |
| 08:21 | <abrotman> | jo: they also have a mailing list if no one answers |
| 08:21 | <abrotman> | jo: is it an old monitor? |
| 08:21 | <Roums> | jo what is the problem ? |
| 08:21 | <Roums> | jon__, wait a second i am rebooting |
| 08:22 | <jo> | abrotman: hp 72, no tft, got problems with an dell monitor too, also no tft |
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| 08:23 | <abrotman> | jo: it's saying that the sync is out of range .. perhaps you'll need to specify in your xorg.conf a rate |
| 08:23 | <Roums> | I think i have the same problem as you jo |
| 08:24 | <Roums> | I have a solution (with my installed debian, not the same problem as the live cd :) |
| 08:24 | <Roums> | edit you xorg.conf to look like this : http://pastebin.ca/1836985 |
| 08:24 | <abrotman> | jo: you can try 'X -configure' to generate an xorg.conf .. and then edit it to try to get better results |
| 08:24 | <Roums> | it worked with Dell monitor |
| 08:26 | <jo> | ok, so I need to logout first |
| 08:26 | <abrotman> | yes, sorry, should have mentioned that |
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| 08:27 | <jon__> | in xorg.conf maintain only one resolution and use the lowest colourdepth |
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| 08:32 | <Roums> | I managed to edit xorg.conf and launch it, now i get "Could not start kstartupconfig" Check your installation" |
| 08:32 | <Roums> | (funny for a Debian live cd) |
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| 08:37 | <jo> | man how do you login to X again in a konsole session as non root? |
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| 08:38 | <Roums> | sudo ? |
| 08:39 | <Roums> | you should have a default account with user as login |
| 08:39 | <jo> | I can login to the konsole |
| 08:39 | <jo> | but not back to kdm / x again |
| 08:39 | <jo> | startx doesn't work as user |
| 08:39 | <jo> | kdm can't be started as user nor root from konsole |
| 08:40 | <abrotman> | why doesn't startx work ? |
| 08:40 | <themill> | jo: do you mean "konsole" the kde terminal application or "console" old-fashioned black and white screen |
| 08:40 | <Roums> | sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start ? |
| 08:40 | <themill> | !sudosmite Roums |
| 08:40 | * | dpkg takes a lump of 2x4 to Roums and yells "This is not #ubuntu!!!1!" |
| 08:40 | <sam100023> | how to connect to irc.freenode.net ..pls help? |
| 08:40 | <jo> | abrotman: then I login as root |
| 08:41 | <abrotman> | sam100023: /server irc.freenode.net |
| 08:41 | <Roums> | themill, but this command works on my debian |
| 08:41 | <abrotman> | jo: you do'nt want to login to X as root |
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| 08:41 | <jo> | abrotman: right |
| 08:41 | <abrotman> | Roums: but won't work for everyone .. sudo is not installed by default on debian |
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| 08:42 | <jo> | abrotman: but root can only use startx |
| 08:42 | <jo> | :/ |
| 08:42 | <Roums> | abrotman, it is on the debian live cd |
| 08:42 | <sam100023> | tried..but still did'nt work |
| 08:42 | <abrotman> | Roums: good .. that still doesn't mean jo has it |
| 08:42 | <Roums> | but sorry for that |
| 08:42 | <abrotman> | sam100023: be less vague |
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| 08:42 | <jo> | I have a /root/xorg.conf.new |
| 08:42 | <jo> | now |
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| 08:42 | <sam100023> | is there anyway round??? |
| 08:43 | <jo> | after X -configure |
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| 08:43 | <jo> | (couldn't run that command as user) |
| 08:43 | <abrotman> | sam100023: why does it not work ? |
| 08:44 | <abrotman> | jo: so you would move that file to /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 08:44 | <Roums> | abrotman, in fact I don't know if I really need the debian live cd, I just wanted to copy my debian installation on a new hdd |
| 08:44 | <Roums> | and I saw on the internet it would be better to boot on a live cd to do it |
| 08:44 | <Roums> | but as the debian live cd refuses to login for me... |
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| 08:45 | <sam100023> | its trying to connect chat.freenode.net :8001 unreachable??? |
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| 08:45 | <abrotman> | sam100023: that's not what i said ? |
| 08:45 | <jo> | abrotman: then restart x again? |
| 08:45 | <abrotman> | jo: sure |
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| 08:46 | <sam100023> | debian works??? ubantu dosn't any ideas!!!! |
| 08:46 | <abrotman> | ask #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net |
| 08:47 | <sam100023> | trying...abrotman |
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| 08:47 | <abrotman> | sam100023: in your irc client .. type "/server irc.freenode.net" |
| 08:47 | <jo> | abrotman: no changes yet |
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| 08:53 | <Roums> | It seems i have an Input.output error on kstartupconfig |
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| 08:53 | <Roums> | Will try another live cd it will be easier i guess |
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| 08:59 | <Roums> | jo does it work now ? |
| 08:59 | <jo> | Roums: no |
| 08:59 | <sam100023> | still nothing can we change the port... |
| 09:00 | <jo> | Roums: you only have that part in xorg.conf |
| 09:00 | <jo> | the part you pasted? |
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| 09:00 | <abrotman> | sam100023: in your irc client .. type "/server irc.freenode.net" |
| 09:00 | <Roums> | Not exactly |
| 09:00 | <Roums> | jo I had those thing to my existing xorg.conf |
| 09:01 | <sam100023> | tried asking for port no... |
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| 09:01 | <Roums> | juste to the Device Monitor and Screen sections, and I don't touch other sections |
| 09:01 | <Roums> | there is a typo in the informations I pasted, VertRefhresh instead of VertRefresh |
| 09:02 | <sam100023> | how to change the channel... |
| 09:02 | <Roums> | sam100023, /join #channel |
| 09:02 | <babilen> | sam100023: Try "/join #ubuntu" (on freenode) |
| 09:03 | <babilen> | !tell sam100023 -about irc tutorial |
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| 09:04 | <sam100023> | clicking on XChat..network list..freenode...that what i been doing... |
| 09:04 | <abrotman> | that's not what i said .. |
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| 09:05 | <abrotman> | why would you ask us if you're not going to do what we tell you ? |
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| 09:05 | <Roums> | ok Ubuntu live cd works fine to log into gnome but doesn't recognize my 3ware controller |
| 09:05 | <Roums> | sigh.... |
| 09:05 | <sam100023> | pls do make it more simple...like window users.. |
| 09:06 | <Roums> | What is the best thing to do to copy my existing debian installation to another hdd ? |
| 09:06 | <abrotman> | sam100023: in your irc client .. type "/server irc.freenode.net" |
| 09:06 | <babilen> | Roums: I found grml to be a great live cd. YYMV |
| 09:06 | <abrotman> | sam100023: that does NOT involve clicking anything |
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| 09:07 | <Roums> | babilen, i will try that, thanks |
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| 09:11 | <sam100023> | is there any other place getting help for ubantu??? |
| 09:12 | <themill> | Try their forums on their website. |
| 09:12 | <abrotman> | sam100023: in your irc client .. type "/server irc.freenode.net" |
| 09:12 | <abrotman> | why is this so hard? trolling perhaps? |
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| 09:13 | <sam100023> | im using xchat in ubantu 9.1 |
| 09:13 | <abrotman> | sam100023: why can't you type what i've been telling you to type ? |
| 09:13 | <abrotman> | TYPE .. not click |
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| 09:15 | <Roums> | sam100023, if you were able to come here you should be able to go on freenode, in xchat just type what abrotman told you |
| 09:15 | <Roums> | and after your are connected to freenode's server, you can join the channel |
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| 09:17 | <sam100023> | its showing connecting to chat.freenode.net : 8001 after that show connection refused!!! |
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| 09:18 | <jar06> | sam100023, if you mean the irc server so you must exchange "chat" with "irc" i mean "irc.freenode.net:8001" |
| 09:18 | <abrotman> | STOP CLICKING |
| 09:18 | <themill> | sam100023: if you're not going to follow the advice that people give you, then why are you asking for it? Perhaps you'd like to try the ubuntu forums at http://ubuntuforums.org/ |
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| 09:23 | <StarkD> | how do I set the default gnome calender to start on Mondays instead of Sundays in Debian Lenny? |
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| 09:24 | <babilen> | StarkD: What is the default Gnome calendar? |
| 09:24 | <cahoot> | depends on your locale? |
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| 09:25 | <cahoot> | (starts with monday here - hence the assumption) |
| 09:26 | <Roums> | Ok i copied all my / onto the new hdd, is there anything to check before I try to boot on it ? |
| 09:26 | <StarkD> | hm I got LANG="en_US.UTF-8" |
| 09:27 | <babilen> | I would either assume that it depends on your locale (try starting it with a different locale) or that it is configurable for the application. Can't help you with the latter because I am still unsure what the "default Gnome calendar" is you are referrig to |
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| 09:27 | <StarkD> | babilen cahoot: but should that matter? the calender incorrectly shows that Sunday 2010-03-14 belongs to week 11 |
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| 09:27 | <babilen> | StarkD: You mean the calendar applet in the panel? |
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| 09:27 | <StarkD> | babilen: precisely |
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| 09:29 | <babilen> | Ok, that might be a bug. You could report it. Try a different locale; en_GB.UTF-8 for example (that even gives you nice colo*u*rs) |
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| 09:30 | <babilen> | I am not aware of a way to configure that explicitly - You could also ask in some gnome specific channel. The most active channels are on irc.gnome.org |
| 09:30 | <StarkD> | babilen: ok thanks. I'll see what #gnome say about it |
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| 09:31 | <babilen> | StarkD: But please report that as a bug if you can confirm it and check if it is indeed locale dependent. |
| 09:31 | <StarkD> | yes will do |
| 09:32 | <babilen> | StarkD: The point is that I am not aware of anything i configured about it and i have 14/03/2010 in week 10 |
| 09:32 | <StarkD> | you do? |
| 09:32 | <babilen> | en_GB.UTF-8 locale here |
| 09:32 | <babilen> | yes |
| 09:32 | <babilen> | and weeks start on monday - as they should :) |
| 09:32 | <StarkD> | ok I'll try out en_GB.UTF-8 then |
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| 09:45 | <Roums> | Grub is starting but debian won't boot on my new hdd (usb hdd) |
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| 10:01 | <ichi25> | ijiojerf |
| 10:02 | <ichi25> | anyone |
| 10:02 | <ichi25> | ksadjikajsdijaoijasjijiasdfjosjdf |
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| 10:25 | <Takayama> | If I disconnect an USB hard drive and re-connect it (by plugging it in a free socket), it regulary re-mounts not in /media/foo, but in /media/foo-1 ... hoiw can I tell Debian to always mount a specific drive into the same directory? I know it must be possible via udev, however, I'm kind of struck here. |
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| 10:27 | <babilen> | Takayama: unmounting it before you unplug it might help ;) |
| 10:27 | <cahoot> | Takayama: create entries in fstab based on uuid? |
| 10:28 | <babilen> | or based on labels |
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| 10:28 | <Takayama> | babilen: I know ... however, a system for end-users that are windows junkies doesn't have that luxury ;) |
| 10:29 | <Takayama> | babilen: unfortunately, no. At this point, it isn't even in fstab. |
| 10:29 | <babilen> | which also means that you have a bunch of people walking in with random sticks? |
| 10:29 | <cockroach> | hitting them with a hammer whenever they don't unmount it might help... |
| 10:29 | <babilen> | !lart windows junkies |
| 10:29 | * | dpkg steals windows junkies's mojo |
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| 10:30 | <Takayama> | means I have some guys who "just wanna check out that file" and randomly unplug my stuff |
| 10:30 | <cockroach> | again, hammer |
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| 10:31 | <valdyn> | Takayama: did you unmount it prior to reconnecting? |
| 10:31 | <babilen> | no |
| 10:32 | <Takayama> | well, if only life would be that easy. I know I want a technical solution for a non-technical problem here, which generally is a bad idea, but please bear with me ;) |
| 10:32 | <babilen> | valdyn: Random "windows junkie" walking in who plug/unplug usb sticks randomly :) |
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| 10:32 | <valdyn> | babilen: and windows will not always assign the same driver letter either |
| 10:32 | <babilen> | yeah |
| 10:32 | <Takayama> | valdyn: scenario: drive is mounted, some idiot storms in, plugs it out, I have zero control before that happens, I replug, and my mount directory has changed. |
| 10:33 | <babilen> | Takayama: Do you want the same drive mounted to some fixed location? |
| 10:33 | <valdyn> | Takayama: then you have the responsiblity to clean up the old mountpoint |
| 10:33 | <Takayama> | babilen: that basically is the idea |
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| 10:33 | <valdyn> | Takayama: which happens automagically after a while anyway |
| 10:33 | <babilen> | Takayama: I guess that fstab + uuid/label is the best you can get |
| 10:34 | <babilen> | Takayama: But if a mountpoint is still in use ... |
| 10:34 | <babilen> | sorry, brb (tel) |
| 10:34 | <valdyn> | mountpoints do not become busy by being used |
| 10:34 | <valdyn> | but in theory this could become messy |
| 10:35 | <Takayama> | hm, it was my understanding that udev would somehow automagically unmount unplugged devides |
| 10:35 | <Takayama> | devices |
| 10:35 | <valdyn> | Takayama: it does |
| 10:35 | <valdyn> | Takayama: but it takes some time |
| 10:36 | <Takayama> | valdyn: maybe this is some procss that can be repeated more often by config? |
| 10:36 | <valdyn> | Takayama: maybe this is alot easier if you just disable the possiblity that someone messes with hardware he shouldnt mess with |
| 10:37 | <Takayama> | ok, so back the the murder scenario we are ... |
| 10:37 | <valdyn> | Takayama: like using the usb plug on the backside and some duct tape |
| 10:37 | <valdyn> | Takayama: creating a scenario where users break hardware regularily is just wrong.. |
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| 10:39 | <cockroach> | it doesn't have to be murder, excessive pain might be enough. |
| 10:41 | <bighornram> | on squeeze upgrade this morning I'm getting a conflicts: libgd2-xpm: Conflicts: libgd2 which is a virtual package. Conflicts: libgd2-noxpm but 2.0.36~rc1~dfsg-3.1 is installed. |
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| 11:08 | <johnfg> | hi guys |
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| 11:11 | <chl> | hi |
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| 11:12 | <babilen> | johnfg: wb |
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| 11:12 | <usuario_> | OLA |
| 11:13 | * | abrotman looks at themill |
| 11:13 | <usuario_> | eiiii |
| 11:13 | <usuario_> | aii alguien |
| 11:14 | -!- | mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ |
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| 11:14 | <vamr> | HOla. |
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| 11:15 | <abrotman> | vamr: english in this channel |
| 11:15 | <vamr> | Oh... |
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| 11:15 | <vamr> | Ok. |
| 11:15 | <abrotman> | !es |
| 11:15 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 11:15 | <vamr> | Thank you. |
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| 11:21 | <vamr> | Hi. |
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| 11:21 | <babilen> | welcome back |
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| 11:22 | <vamr> | I have a problem... |
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| 11:23 | <vamr> | I was installing another distro and something wrong happen with a ntfs partition... |
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| 11:24 | <vamr> | ... so, debian looks that partition like a swap... but in windows looks like a ntfs |
| 11:25 | <sney> | vamr: 'sudo fdisk -l' what is the partition labelled as? |
| 11:25 | <abrotman> | sudo? |
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| 11:25 | <locklace> | vamr: you can use fdisk/cfdisk/parted to change the partition type flag from swap back to whatever if it got messed up |
| 11:25 | <sney> | abrotman: fdisk is generally not in peoples' PATH, it's just easier |
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| 11:25 | <abrotman> | 'fdisk -l as root' |
| 11:26 | <sney> | bah |
| 11:26 | <sney> | I just woke up, gimme a break ._. |
| 11:26 | <locklace> | !coffee sney |
| 11:26 | * | dpkg decants a fine mug of organic Peruvian for sney, courtesy of locklace |
| 11:27 | <vamr> | Mmm... im using WXP right now... but i tried to mount from shell and it worked |
| 11:27 | <abrotman> | canadians sleep late! |
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| 11:28 | <vamr> | In gparted the partition labell is swap |
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| 11:34 | <vamr> | I'll try fdisk, thank you. |
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| 11:34 | <vamr> | see ya |
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| 11:46 | <muzy> | truecrypt + debian = fail |
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| 11:50 | <abrotman> | !truecrypt |
| 11:50 | <dpkg> | somebody said truecrypt was a <non-free> (under DFSG's definitions) implementation of on-the-fly disk encryption that also attempts plausible deniability, something not found in other OTFE systems like <EncFS> and <LUKS>. Not in Debian, ITP in bug #413070. http://www.truecrypt.org/ |
| 11:51 | <muzy> | does someone know an alternative? |
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| 11:53 | <titan8990> | !luks |
| 11:53 | <dpkg> | LUKS: Linux Unified Key Setup, a disk encryption specification with a platform-independent format. For more information, see http://code.google.com/p/cryptsetup/ , http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/469 and google 'LUKS Debian'. To access on win32 platforms, see http://freeotfe.org/ and ask me about <ext2fsd>. |
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| 12:05 | <padski> | I just bought a "4GB" usb flash stick. fdisk is reporting 3.67 MB (SI). The packaging mentions windows software. from experience that is somewhere else. *Wonders* Is there a lower level I can go in at and get my 300+MB back (or are they ripping me off) ? |
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| 12:08 | <Supaplex> | one box got upgraded to linux-image-2.6.26-2-amd64 2.6.26-21lenny4 but breaks drbd. I'm looking at the wiki article for pinning, and I don't see how to pin by a version. I know lenny2 works fine for drbd. how do I block lenny3+4 and downgrade to lenny2 now I am in this state? |
| 12:08 | <COla65> | hi, anyone can tell me how to install Debian5 minimal ( on USB ) with ethernet Atheros ( not reconized ) |
| 12:09 | <COla65> | ? thanks |
| 12:09 | <padski> | Supaplex, do you even need to do that with a kernel ? just fix it at the boot loader ? |
| 12:10 | <Supaplex> | based on what I see from dpkg -S the old kernel isn't there |
| 12:10 | <padski> | Supaplex, so install it ? |
| 12:10 | <Supaplex> | so download it manually and dpkg -i? |
| 12:11 | <padski> | no ... |
| 12:11 | <Supaplex> | that doesn't help block lenny3+4 releases from installing |
| 12:11 | <abrotman> | !kmuto |
| 12:11 | <dpkg> | For Debian Lenny installers with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ . The <bnx2> and <bnx2x> firmware files for Linux 2.6.32 are included in 0116 images. |
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| 12:12 | <padski> | example: apt-get install linux-image-2.6.26-1-686 (but the specific one that you want) rather than a meta-package (is that what they're called?) |
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| 12:13 | <Supaplex> | this isn't a meta package |
| 12:13 | <COla65> | nobody can help me ? |
| 12:13 | <Supaplex> | COla65: see what dpkg said |
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| 12:14 | <padski> | Supaplex, ok, but you know what I mean. it is possible to directly install a specific version using apt-get just as easily as dpkg and it saves on broken systems :-) |
| 12:14 | <Supaplex> | padski: linux-image-2.6.26-2-amd64 has lenny2 3 and 4 versions. I'm looking at dpkg -l linux-image-2.6.26-2-amd64 and the files in packages.debian.org |
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| 12:15 | <COla65> | sory i dont understand it was for me |
| 12:16 | <padski> | Supaplex, your current packages file has only the version 4 I guess ? are the packages still in the main repo or snapshots ? |
| 12:16 | <padski> | COla65, I think the suggestion is get a better kernel that has support for your ethernet, and directions on where to go |
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| 12:17 | <Supaplex> | I think they're still in the main repos. it's not that old |
| 12:17 | <padski> | Supaplex, but not in the packages file any more ? |
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| 12:18 | <padski> | COla65, keep it in the main channel. is better. |
| 12:18 | <COla65> | padski, dpkg > ok i will try , thanks ! |
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| 12:19 | <padski> | Supaplex, I have to admit that if it were me I would probably do as you say, but it is not the right advise to suggest it here :-) |
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| 12:22 | <padski> | Supaplex, or run a later kernel ? hasn't drbd gone into the mainline now ? |
| 12:22 | <Supaplex> | !snapshots |
| 12:22 | <dpkg> | http://snapshot-dev.debian.org/ (soon to be http://snapshot.debian.org/) is an archive of all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way undistributable. This service replaces the old http://snapshot.debian.net/ site that is no longer maintained. |
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| 12:22 | <Supaplex> | it is, but 573490 is not my friend today |
| 12:22 | <padski> | 573490 ? |
| 12:23 | <Supaplex> | bts |
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| 12:26 | <padski> | so roll back to the previous version that worked. you did keep the previous version ? ;-) |
| 12:26 | <padski> | Supaplex, is it a production system ? |
| 12:27 | <Supaplex> | aptitude overwrote the old kernel |
| 12:27 | <locklace> | Supaplex: download and dpkg -i it, and then "aptitude hold" it |
| 12:27 | <Supaplex> | yes it's production, and I found the older kernel in /var/cache/apt. rebooting now. |
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| 12:29 | <padski> | Supaplex, I used to have one of those. it was fun :-) |
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| 12:31 | <s4br3> | Hi, in my home network I have a d-link which serves a PS3 and several computers with Debian Sid and/or dual w Vista. However, I cannot connect my Asus eee 1008HA which works fine in XP, but not in Debian Sid. I have followed several tips using Google, but none have help... Please, someone? |
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| 12:32 | <lorena> | ola |
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| 12:33 | <lorena> | hello |
| 12:34 | <titan8990> | s4br3: it would help if you mentioned your wireeless card... why are you running sid? |
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| 12:34 | <lorena> | ola |
| 12:34 | <bja> | !es-social lorena |
| 12:34 | <dpkg> | lorena: Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador, por favor vaya a otro canal. Si necesitas soporte con Debian en Espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 12:35 | <lorena> | got morgin |
| 12:35 | <Supaplex> | !tell DEVMIK about hold |
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| 12:36 | <s4br3> | AR9285 |
| 12:36 | <lorena> | spanig |
| 12:36 | <titan8990> | !ath9k |
| 12:36 | <dpkg> | [ath9k][ath9k] a completely free (no proprietary HAL) driver for Atheros 802.11 draft-n PCI wireless LAN chipsets. Included in the mainline Linux kernel since 2.6.27. Lenny users: ask me about <bpo> to install a later kernel image package containing this driver. AR9287 and AR2427 are supported in Debian 2.6.32 kernel images. For USB 802.11n device support, ask me about <ar9170usb>. http://wiki.debian.org/ath9k |
| 12:36 | <lorena> | spain |
| 12:36 | <s4br3> | titan8990: Atheros AR9285 |
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| 12:37 | <titan8990> | s4br3: should be pretty standard. read the wiki, check the BTS, don't run sid |
| 12:37 | <s4br3> | titan8990: BTS? |
| 12:38 | <titan8990> | sid user doesn't know about the BTS? |
| 12:38 | <titan8990> | *gasp* |
| 12:38 | <titan8990> | !bts |
| 12:38 | <dpkg> | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges |
| 12:38 | <s4br3> | ok... :) |
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| 12:39 | <padski> | Supaplex, going forward, I think you could rebuild the drbd module for the new kernel, but I'm not sure how they plan to resolve the bug ... |
| 12:40 | <Supaplex> | yeah. I was scrambling to restore service first. :) |
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| 12:41 | <lorena> | msn |
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| 12:41 | <usuario_lorena> | o |
| 12:41 | <usuario_lorena> | o |
| 12:41 | <usuario_lorena> | pjolhjh |
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| 12:41 | <usuario_lorena> | fhf |
| 12:41 | <usuario_lorena> | f |
| 12:41 | <usuario_lorena> | h |
| 12:41 | <usuario_lorena> | fh |
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| 12:42 | <babilen> | !ops usuario__lorena spamming/trolling |
| 12:42 | <dpkg> | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: babilen complains about: usuario__lorena spamming/trolling |
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| 12:46 | <babilen> | lorena: It would be great if you could stop. This is an English support channel for Debian. |
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| 12:47 | <babilen> | ty |
| 12:48 | <abrotman> | i thought he had left for good .. |
| 12:48 | <babilen> | me too |
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| 12:48 | <bja> | abrotman: talking to her right now |
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| 12:52 | <padski> | Supaplex, yes, exactly. this is why, as you go into such an upgrade you want to be ready for a rollback :-) done well you can safely upgrade some clusters without interruptions, even in the face of some failures. Of course, there is also that fun stuff they do where they reboot each other ... ;-) |
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| 12:55 | <s4br3> | titan8990: It works if I use WEP but not under WPA2. |
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| 12:56 | <padski> | Supaplex, "rolling upgrade" is the term I was looking for. Have you considered using ksplice ? also, I used to have a test system that I would try complicated upgrades on. |
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| 12:56 | <Supaplex> | it's my vacation, and I usually test stuff, but i'm always on call ;) |
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| 12:56 | <xXHACKERXx> | ola |
| 12:57 | <Supaplex> | !nickometer xXHACKERXx |
| 12:57 | <dpkg> | 'xXHACKERXx' is 99.880% lame, supaplex |
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| 12:57 | <padski> | hehe |
| 12:57 | <xXHACKERXx> | olle en español porfi |
| 12:57 | <othor> | I wonder, is there any way to make the display go to sleep after more than 1 hour? say 4? gnome power management app doesn't allow more than 1 hour. I tried looking in the gconf-editor but it doesnt allow editing ("Currently pairs and schemas can't be edited. This will be changed in a later version." is what is has to say). |
| 12:57 | <xXHACKERXx> | xd |
| 12:57 | <abrotman> | !es |
| 12:57 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 12:57 | <padski> | !es |
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| 12:59 | <Supaplex> | padski: it's great to get a phone call about a /less than redundancy/ HA cluster, and come to find out the backup wasn't upgraded first. if the backup was upgraded first, we would have discovered this before it turned into a service outage. anyway, time for zzZzzz. ttyl. |
| 12:59 | <muzy> | Does someone know where to get Xvnc under Debian?= |
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| 12:59 | <padski> | Supaplex, ouch! I feel your pain :-) |
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| 13:00 | <padski> | muzy, is that xvnc4viewer ? |
| 13:00 | <muzy> | padski, it should be a vnc server |
| 13:01 | <kootoomootoo> | Hi! How can I probe pure-ftpd server from same machine |
| 13:01 | <kootoomootoo> | ? |
| 13:01 | <lorena> | ola |
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| 13:02 | <padski> | muzy, debtags search 'network::server && use::viewing' | grep -i vnc |
| 13:03 | <muzy> | padski, found a better way to do what iwant ;=) |
| 13:03 | <muzy> | ssh -X was the key |
| 13:03 | <padski> | heh |
| 13:04 | <othor> | kootoomootoo: try ftp from the command line |
| 13:04 | <kootoomootoo> | I tried this |
| 13:04 | <abrotman> | probe ? |
| 13:05 | <kootoomootoo> | 200 PORT command successful |
| 13:05 | <kootoomootoo> | 150 Connecting to port 42162 |
| 13:05 | <kootoomootoo> | 226-Options: -l |
| 13:05 | <kootoomootoo> | 226 0 matches total |
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| 13:07 | <kootoomootoo> | I have been kicked |
| 13:07 | <kootoomootoo> | for copy/paste |
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| 13:07 | <abrotman> | yes .. |
| 13:07 | <babilen> | kootoomootoo: yes, use a pastebin next time |
| 13:07 | <babilen> | !tell kootoomootoo -about pastebin |
| 13:08 | <kootoomootoo> | I will study this aspect |
| 13:08 | <othor> | About my question. Any advice where to look into changing the power management settings? |
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| 13:12 | <Teow> | What is the fastest file system supported by Debian? ext2? ext3? ext4? bfs? minix? |
| 13:13 | <padski> | Teow, fastest for what ? |
| 13:13 | <Teow> | fast access of thousands of medium sized files |
| 13:14 | <Teow> | doesnt need to be encrypted, doesn't need to support software RAID |
| 13:14 | <Teow> | just plain storage |
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| 13:16 | <musca> | othor: maybe this may help you http://linuxreviews.org/howtos/power/xorg_dpms/index.html.en |
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| 13:18 | <abrotman> | Teow: if you have to ask, ext3 |
| 13:18 | <Teow> | hmm |
| 13:18 | <Teow> | i see quite a few reviews (up to date ones) saying that reiserfs v4 is 95% times faster |
| 13:19 | <titan8990> | muderfs is typically only faster on smaller files |
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| 13:19 | <othor> | musca: Thank you, will look into it later tonight. Out of time for now. |
| 13:19 | <Teow> | well, the file sizes differ, some are 500 mb and some are 2 kb |
| 13:19 | <titan8990> | s/muderfs/murderfs |
| 13:19 | <Teow> | i think the average size is 1/2 mb |
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| 13:20 | <locklace> | !start a filesystem war |
| 13:20 | <dpkg> | Sigh, just use ext3 already. |
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| 13:21 | <Teow> | so why is ext4 being made dpkg? :P |
| 13:21 | <abrotman> | Teow: in lenny, it's not |
| 13:21 | <Teow> | well it comes with mkfs.ext4 and mkfs.ext4dev |
| 13:21 | <abrotman> | the .26 kernel in lenny doesn't really have ext4 support |
| 13:21 | <abrotman> | it's the ext4_dev |
| 13:22 | <titan8990> | it was the early development support |
| 13:22 | <Teow> | okay |
| 13:22 | <titan8990> | Teow: what kind of application are we talking about here? |
| 13:22 | <Teow> | the storage of many tiny files, averaging about 1/2 mb (but some being 3 kb and some being 700 mb) |
| 13:22 | <Teow> | disks are 2 TB |
| 13:23 | <titan8990> | it just needs to store them? It doesn't need to say... read them for an application? |
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| 13:24 | <Teow> | storing and reading (no deleting) |
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| 13:24 | <titan8990> | Teow: I am trying to ask the function of the machine |
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| 13:24 | <Teow> | an website used for uploading files (aka rapidshare) |
| 13:25 | <titan8990> | but not webDAV? |
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| 13:26 | <Teow> | no. |
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| 13:26 | <xXHACKERXx> | hello |
| 13:28 | <Teow> | i suppose ext3 will do |
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| 13:35 | <lorenzo> | #ubuntu-it |
| 13:35 | <meglaw> | ubuntard |
| 13:36 | <lorenzo> | #ubuntu-it-chat |
| 13:36 | <abrotman> | lorenzo: try irc.freenode.net |
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| 13:38 | <carmen> | hello |
| 13:38 | <carmen> | helloooooo |
| 13:38 | <mkavatar> | hello |
| 13:38 | <carmen> | hhahaha |
| 13:39 | <carmen> | you speak spanish ? ahahaha |
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| 13:39 | <mkavatar> | no sorry |
| 13:39 | <carmen> | olaaa caracolaa |
| 13:39 | <mkavatar> | italian |
| 13:39 | <mkavatar> | do you? |
| 13:39 | <carmen> | noo... |
| 13:39 | <carmen> | hahaahah |
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| 13:40 | <carmen> | yuiijgyujghvgycyftugjfydi |
| 13:40 | <carmen> | hahaahahjahahahabhahah |
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| 13:52 | <kootoomootoo> | I can't see files on my pure-ftpd server, connection looks that is ok |
| 13:52 | <kootoomootoo> | with ftp localhost command |
| 13:52 | <bja> | !tell carmen about es-social |
| 13:53 | <kootoomootoo> | pass user and password |
| 13:53 | <abrotman> | bja: gone |
| 13:53 | <bja> | damn lag |
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| 13:54 | <titan8990> | bja: you have a hotkey for that by now? |
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| 13:58 | <padski> | how does libxapian get into my debootstrap ?!? |
| 13:59 | <titan8990> | padski: what is that? |
| 13:59 | <padski> | "The Xapian search engine library is a highly adaptable toolkit ..." |
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| 14:00 | <TURBO1> | hi |
| 14:00 | <padski> | I did a debootstrap and I get a search engine library ... and a kitchen sink ;-) |
| 14:00 | <titan8990> | padski: it doesn't appear to be in debian. check packages.debian.org |
| 14:00 | <titan8990> | padski: oh, your saying you have it? |
| 14:00 | <padski> | titan8990, package is libxapian15. yes |
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| 14:01 | <padski> | titan8990, do you think it is infectious ? ;-) |
| 14:01 | <titan8990> | padski: ah, well it would have helped if I spelled it right when searching |
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| 14:02 | <titan8990> | padski: aptitude why <package> |
| 14:02 | <titan8990> | padski: looks like its required for libept0 which is required for aptitude |
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| 14:06 | <padski> | titan8990, thanks, I have never seen 'aptitude why' before. libept is indeed a reason in its own right, but then it looks like debtags pulls that in ... |
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| 14:07 | <xXHACKERXx> | HombreDelPortil |
| 14:07 | <xXHACKERXx> | chispas |
| 14:07 | <xXHACKERXx> | --Invitado-- |
| 14:07 | <xXHACKERXx> | Un-Amigo |
| 14:07 | <xXHACKERXx> | -Informatico- |
| 14:07 | <xXHACKERXx> | -Kimico- |
| 14:07 | <xXHACKERXx> | Pirata- |
| 14:07 | <xXHACKERXx> | -Gracioso- |
| 14:07 | <xXHACKERXx> | MAITE-SOROA |
| 14:07 | <xXHACKERXx> | Para-probar |
| 14:07 | <xXHACKERXx> | BUEN CORSARIO |
| 14:07 | <xXHACKERXx> | <hack |
| 14:07 | <titan8990> | !ops xXHACKERXx spammer |
| 14:07 | <dpkg> | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: titan8990 complains about: xXHACKERXx spammer |
| 14:07 | <xXHACKERXx> | hacker xchat |
| 14:08 | -!- | mode/#debian [+o LoRez] by ChanServ |
| 14:08 | <xXHACKERXx> | hacker |
| 14:08 | <titan8990> | where is our flood bot? |
| 14:08 | -!- | mode/#debian [+b *!*@83.38.78.66] by LoRez |
| 14:08 | -!- | xXHACKERXx was kicked from #debian by LoRez [you should know better] |
| 14:08 | -!- | mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ |
| 14:08 | -!- | mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman |
| 14:08 | -!- | mode/#debian [-o LoRez] by LoRez |
| 14:08 | <abrotman> | titan8990: the bot can lag .. or he wasn't going fast enough |
| 14:08 | -!- | mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ |
| 14:08 | -!- | less was kicked from #debian by abrotman [less] |
| 14:08 | -!- | mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman |
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| 14:09 | <titan8990> | abrotman: what was that kick about? same user? |
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| 14:14 | <padski> | what does one do after debootstrap ? (since baseconfig went?), I always fix stuff by hand, but I have and idea I once saw a handy one-liner. |
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| 14:21 | <titan8990> | !install guide |
| 14:21 | <dpkg> | The Debian Installation Guide for Lenny (5.0.4) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/installmanual . See also <errata> and <installer firmware>. |
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| 14:21 | <titan8990> | padski: there is a chapter of the install guide dedicated to debootstrap installation |
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| 14:23 | <padski> | titan8990, thanks |
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| 14:37 | <cesurasean> | ok, how come even with non free linux firmware installed, and ifconfig shows an uplink, server cannot connect to the internet? |
| 14:37 | <cesurasean> | power reset last night, and rebooted server. :/ |
| 14:38 | <abrotman> | are you going to give us more details? like the hardware or driver? or kernel? or version of debian ? |
| 14:38 | <cesurasean> | squeeze, im not sure anymore details, as i cannot ssh. :( |
| 14:38 | <cesurasean> | why would rebooting a box, break connection anyways? |
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| 14:41 | <ikkerus> | Hey guys. Does anyone know how to retain if the user already exist in active directory when sending a mail to someone? |
| 14:42 | <abrotman> | in debian ? |
| 14:42 | <ikkerus> | I'm using postfix, dovecot with authenticating against ADS with libpam_krb5.so |
| 14:42 | <ikkerus> | in debian, yes |
| 14:42 | <cesurasean> | abrotman, how do i go about getting this back up? :( |
| 14:42 | <abrotman> | cesurasean: if you can't ssh in, how are you going to work on it ? |
| 14:42 | <cesurasean> | terminal |
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| 14:43 | <abrotman> | cesurasean: is the link light on? |
| 14:43 | <abrotman> | cesurasean: can you even ping its own IP ? |
| 14:43 | <cesurasean> | yes, i checked the connection to the switch |
| 14:43 | <cesurasean> | let me try |
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| 14:43 | <ikkerus> | I'm getting annoyed.. when I'm sending a mail to someone like peter.pan@domain.local the server is creating a maildir for it.. |
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| 14:45 | <cesurasean> | abrotman, slow booting up. give me a min. ntp is stuck right now probably because no connection. i'll ping itself and let you know the results. |
| 14:45 | <cesurasean> | give me a min. |
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| 14:46 | <parsix> | hi |
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| 14:47 | <bja> | ikkerus: check dovecot's configuration |
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| 14:52 | <AngryDrake> | Hi. I have a problem. I'm using Debian 5, and would like to change the keyboard layout to a custom one (specifically, a Dvorak with Polish characters accessible with RAlt). How could I do that? |
| 14:53 | <ikkerus> | bja: I think there's missing something in dovecot's configuration like you said. I have to retain if the user I'm sending a mail to already exists checking against the ADS-Server.. |
| 14:53 | <cesurasean> | abrotman, sorry took so long, im able to ping itself, and connect to itself with ssh, |
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| 14:53 | <abrotman> | cesurasean: check your cables |
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| 14:54 | <fnmueller> | cesurasean: make sure it does not stop working after you logged out |
| 14:54 | <fnmueller> | cesurasean: I believe someone else had that problems a couple of days ago, but I am not sure |
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| 14:56 | <cenobyte> | @angrydrake i hope this helps here is a link to what i believe may be a solution for you http://www.howtoforge.com/changing-language-and-keyboard-layout-on-various-linux-distributions |
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| 14:57 | <fnmueller> | hmmm, is squeeze supposed to be freezed this month? |
| 14:58 | <fnmueller> | or was that postponed again? |
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| 14:59 | <chealer> | !wwsr |
| 14:59 | <dpkg> | Squeeze will release <WIR>, <SIYH>. No release schedule is done yet. Ask me about <squeeze bet>. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/02/msg00002.html |
| 14:59 | <fnmueller> | hmm, thx |
| 15:00 | <fnmueller> | chealer: this is not what my question was about, but thanks ^^ |
| 15:00 | <fnmueller> | I asked if the freeze date was changed |
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| 15:00 | <fnmueller> | freeze != release |
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| 15:00 | <cesurasean> | abrotman, i checked cables and they seem fine. i even tried another cable... |
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| 15:01 | <cesurasean> | could this be a malfunction of the ethernet card? |
| 15:01 | <chealer> | fnmueller: there is no freeze date for squeeze |
| 15:01 | <abrotman> | fnmueller: did you read the email linked ? |
| 15:01 | <abrotman> | cesurasean: yes .. it could be fried |
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| 15:02 | <cesurasean> | abrotman, i was able to ssh from another card. is there any commands you know to run which could help diagnose this? |
| 15:03 | <fnmueller> | abrotman: no, I thought is was about the release ;-), chealer hmm, thx, I guessed there was one, bad memory ^^ |
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| 15:03 | <lm> | ola |
| 15:03 | <AngryDrake> | cenobyte: Thanks. I'll try this. |
| 15:03 | <Araneidae> | Does squeeze have a viable option for installing the NVIDIA glx driver? `aptitude install nvidia-glx` is ... interesting: http://paste.debian.net/63978/ |
| 15:03 | <bja> | !es-social lm |
| 15:03 | <dpkg> | lm: Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador, por favor vaya a otro canal. Si necesitas soporte con Debian en Espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 15:03 | <abrotman> | cesurasean: not if the card is toasted |
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| 15:04 | <cesurasean> | abrotman, i had problems last time with this card, i think. the light shows up on the switch, so i assume it's working. if i do lspci or something, will this not tell me if the card is still functioning? |
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| 15:05 | <abrotman> | cesurasean: sure .. lspci -nn | grep -i net |
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| 15:05 | <cenobyte> | @angrydrake your welcome |
| 15:05 | <AngryDrake> | cenobyte: I'm looking at the first screen of 'dpkg-reconfigure console-data' and I don't know what to select. |
| 15:05 | <Araneidae> | Looks like this one: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=549869 |
| 15:06 | <cockroach> | cesurasean: just curious, what kind of chip is it? |
| 15:06 | <lm> | bja como te llamas en verdad |
| 15:06 | <cesurasean> | 00:12.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] [1106:3065] (rev 78) |
| 15:06 | <ikkerus> | bja: Thank you i had to check if receiptient already exists against the ADS |
| 15:06 | <lm> | ?? |
| 15:06 | <ikkerus> | :) |
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| 15:07 | <ikkerus> | now its time to build the ldap filter.. :/ |
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| 15:07 | <cockroach> | cesurasean: okay, no idea then :) |
| 15:07 | <cockroach> | cesurasean: but basically the machine can only communicate with itself? |
| 15:07 | <lm> | bja como te llamas en verdad??? |
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| 15:08 | <lm> | bja estas hay?? |
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| 15:09 | <cesurasean> | cockroach, yes, with that card, yes. |
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| 15:09 | <aurorixi> | bja soy yo te acuerdas ayer nos ablamos |
| 15:09 | <cesurasean> | i think i may just throw another card in that box, and say to hell with the Rhine 2 |
| 15:09 | <locklace> | aurorixi: ingles solamente aqui, perra |
| 15:09 | <cesurasean> | it's built in, and it may be broken. |
| 15:09 | <cockroach> | cesurasean: can you pastebin the output of ifconfig somewhere? |
| 15:09 | <aurorixi> | no |
| 15:10 | <cesurasean> | http://pastebin.com/juhWxd8u |
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| 15:10 | <chealer> | Araneidae: not from pure squeeze, but you can install unstable's drivers |
| 15:10 | <AngryDrake> | cenobyte: On a more in-depth look, it doesn't seem to be what I need. |
| 15:10 | <cockroach> | cesurasean: eth0 or eth1? |
| 15:11 | <AngryDrake> | Polish Dvorak isn't among the list of options. |
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| 15:11 | <cesurasean> | eth1 |
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| 15:11 | <Araneidae> | chealer, does the driver have the same name in unstable? |
| 15:12 | <Araneidae> | I've never installed from a non-default location -- what's the basic trick? |
| 15:12 | <cockroach> | cesurasean: looks reasonable :) |
| 15:12 | <Araneidae> | !dpkg sid |
| 15:12 | <dpkg> | sid is the <unstable> version of Debian. Sid is the destructive kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in; sid is not supported in #debian because sid users should be able to solve their own problems. Sid will never be released. See also <sid faq> <unstable>. |
| 15:12 | <chealer> | Araneidae: yes |
| 15:13 | <chealer> | !tell Araneidae about tum |
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| 15:13 | <cenobyte> | @angrydrake im sorry to hear that it didnt work thats the only way i know how to change the layout perhaps someone else can help you or maybe you could post on the debian user forums and receive a solution there |
| 15:13 | <locklace> | !tell Araneidae about nvidia squeeze |
| 15:13 | <cockroach> | cesurasean: and it does seem to be sending data. have you tried tshark? |
| 15:14 | <Araneidae> | Oh wow. Thanks. I'll have to have a look at those tomorrow! |
| 15:14 | <cesurasean> | cockroach, what is tshark? |
| 15:14 | <cockroach> | cesurasean: a network analyzer. might help you trying to figure out where your packets go. |
| 15:15 | <cockroach> | cesurasean: ... or you could just replace the card :) |
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| 15:15 | <cesurasean> | cockroach, how could that possibly help me though? how would that allow me to fix this? |
| 15:16 | <cockroach> | cesurasean: well, it seems that according to your ifconfig, your card is transmitting data but not receiving any. it would be interesting to know whether the data it sends actually arrives somewhere |
| 15:17 | <Araneidae> | Any ideas why nv should think my second DVI monitor is a VGA monitor? http://paste.debian.net/63979/ |
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| 15:18 | <cesurasean> | cockroach, interesting, but i don't really have that much time to fucks with that. :) i think the card is malfunctioning....... i'll probably just throw a pci card in there and knock this out. |
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| 15:18 | <cesurasean> | last time i thought it was because no cable was plugged into this card, but now im wondering if it's some hardware issue. |
| 15:19 | <cesurasean> | bought the motherboard off ebay, for whatever reason they were selling it. makes me wonder if the hardware issue was present when i purchased it. |
| 15:19 | <cockroach> | cesurasean: i know cards that do similar things (can usually be fixed by cutting all power), but they're r8169 cards... |
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| 15:20 | <cesurasean> | cockroach, what does cutting power do exactly? reset the device? |
| 15:21 | <cesurasean> | that's a possible solution. i may try to cut off power completely, and see what the results are, then. i see where you may have a point there for certain hardware. perhaps the reset of power was so brief ( no clock changed ), that it's got the card in a loop. |
| 15:21 | <cockroach> | cesurasean: iirc in that case the problem is a corrupted eprom that seems to get fixed then the device runs out of power |
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| 15:22 | <cesurasean> | i have power backups, and even those did not seem to kick on in time, due to the fluctuating power current was so quick like. split second. |
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| 15:23 | <cesurasean> | i find that odd, as well. |
| 15:23 | <cockroach> | hrm, sounds like something that could theoretically upset hardware. or break it :) |
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| 15:24 | <AivariuX> | Hello, I have problem with my Debian mysql server ERROR 2002 (HY000) How Can i solve it? |
| 15:24 | <RASTAFARI> | Esta es la sala de cumana!? |
| 15:24 | <cesurasean> | anyways, that is just what i assume. 5 machines were off, but no clocks have changed time in the house, so i find it sorta odd. |
| 15:24 | <RASTAFARI> | i see that not |
| 15:24 | <diggy> | do you have error description? |
| 15:24 | <bja> | !es-social RASTAFARI |
| 15:24 | <dpkg> | RASTAFARI: Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador, por favor vaya a otro canal. Si necesitas soporte con Debian en Espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 15:25 | <AivariuX> | Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysqld.sock' (2) |
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| 15:25 | <cockroach> | cesurasean: indeed |
| 15:25 | <diggy> | check is it running |
| 15:26 | <AivariuX> | Not, it can't start. |
| 15:26 | <cesurasean> | cockroach, thx for your input. i will switch off this machine's power completely, since i know these onboards stay on even when turned off, and see if that helps at all. if not, im just going to place another card in as to not waste any time. |
| 15:26 | <diggy> | why? |
| 15:26 | <cockroach> | cesurasean: you're welcome, and good luck |
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| 15:29 | <zeus> | hi, i'm trying to setting the screen resolution on my lenny cli. It seems i can't use the vga=ask in grub menu.lst because my tweaks became overwritten on evey update-grub command. How do i have to set the grub boot resolution ? |
| 15:30 | <cockroach> | zeus: have a look at the commented parts of menu.lst, you can set defaults there |
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| 15:32 | <zeus> | cockroach: wow ! thank you ! |
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| 15:32 | <bja> | zeus: Take a closer look at menu.lst there is a way to make tweaks be persistent through kernel updates |
| 15:33 | <cockroach> | zeus: you're welcome |
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| 15:48 | <Teow> | I'm trying to set 'local-infile' to 0 for MySQL. Adding 'local-infile=0' to /etc/mysql/my.cnf worked for CentOs but not for Debian. Any idea? |
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| 15:50 | <stephankn> | Good evening! I have a SSH port forwarding to postgresql on localhost. But openssh uses my external address to connect, not 127.0.0.1. Where can this behavior be changed? Postgresql refuses connection not originating from localhost |
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| 15:52 | <kfisher> | hi |
| 15:53 | <locklace> | stephankn: huh? if you're running the ssh on the system itself, just use 127.0.0.1 as the address |
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| 15:53 | <locklace> | stephankn: and if you're running it on another host inbound, then also just use 127.0.0.1 in the forward-to address field |
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| 15:55 | <stephankn> | locklace: windows uses putty to set up forwarding from (windows) port 5432 to (linux) localhost:5432. Postgresql is confugured to accept connections from 127.0.0.1. But it appears to connect using the external IP of the server :( |
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| 15:56 | <stephankn> | I verified with nc -vv -l -p 6644 it is not using the loopback address for the connection. Why? |
| 15:56 | <kfisher> | the tor channel is quit any help me here with it |
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| 15:57 | <locklace> | stephankn: what happens if you change the forward-to address "localhost:5432" to "127.0.0.1:5432" |
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| 16:00 | <stephankn> | locklace: trying... with nc it originates from 127.0.0.1. Looks fine, But I thought I had tried that with postgresql already. will try again... |
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| 16:02 | <stephankn> | looks like localhost does not get resolved right... |
| 16:03 | <locklace> | quite |
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| 16:06 | <stephankn> | ok, I changed postgresql to listen on 127.0.0.1 instead of localhost, now also forwarding is working. |
| 16:06 | <stephankn> | Where is localhost set up? |
| 16:07 | <locklace> | /etc/hosts and make sure your nsswitch is set up to consult files before dns |
| 16:07 | <locklace> | the line in /etc/nsswitch.conf should read something like "hosts: files dns" |
| 16:08 | <stephankn> | ok, my question got lost. Was asking whether it's /etc/hosts. |
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| 16:10 | <stephankn> | hosts is set up to contain localhost as an alias to my external ip. Will add another line for localhost... Is there any harm with www being an alias to my external IP? |
| 16:11 | <locklace> | localhost should always point to 127.0.0.1. you can do whatever you want for your other aliases |
| 16:12 | <stephankn> | locklace: you're right. That's what I expected. Never thought it might point to somewhere else. hosts was preconfigured by my provider with the initial setup of the vserver. |
| 16:13 | <inkbottle> | Hi, (testing) netinst process had recognized a wlan card :) But is it possible to use wpa encryption instead of wep? |
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| 16:13 | <micha> | good evening |
| 16:14 | <locklace> | inkbottle: you will need a backport installer image for wpa during install, http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
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| 16:14 | <stephankn> | locklace: think that solved the problem. Thank you very much for the prompt help! |
| 16:15 | <locklace> | !congratulate stephankn |
| 16:15 | <dpkg> | Good show stephankn, you did it! |
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| 16:15 | <inkbottle> | locklace, ok i give a look at this page |
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| 16:19 | <micha> | how to load specific kernel module while installing (rt2860sta for example)? |
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| 16:19 | <locklace> | micha: switch to a vt with a shell prompt with alt-<f3> or whatever, and modprobe it |
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| 16:20 | <Newbumz> | Hi all. My google-foo is failing was wondering if anyone was on who was a wiz bang at doing shell scripts? |
| 16:20 | <locklace> | !tell Newbumz about ask |
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| 16:21 | <micha> | thanks ;) |
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| 16:22 | <abrotman> | Newbumz: #bash ? |
| 16:22 | <abrotman> | erm .. #bash on irc.freenode.net |
| 16:22 | <locklace> | assuming you're lame enough to be writing scripts in bash |
| 16:22 | <Newbumz> | Thanks guys |
| 16:22 | <mercutio22> | Hello some of my compiz plugins stopped working suddenly. It seems my package versions got messed up: http://pastebin.com/v6FitsTT. I should be using only squeeze packages: http://pastebin.com/eb4UWSja |
| 16:23 | <mercutio22> | clues? |
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| 16:23 | <boolean> | how do I actually get the xmms2 gui? |
| 16:24 | <boolean> | when I run xmms from the shell I only get a lot of options |
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| 16:26 | <locklace> | boolean: http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/wiki/Clients#Graphical_Clients |
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| 16:27 | <bja> | !beer locklace |
| 16:27 | * | dpkg pours a quart of Gulden Drak for locklace |
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| 16:29 | <locklace> | actually i'm going to go over to the dark side |
| 16:29 | <locklace> | if you can't beat them, join them |
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| 16:29 | <boolean> | esperanza: server setting: enter server connection path? |
| 16:29 | <locklace> | OLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 16:29 | <bja> | \o/ |
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| 16:30 | <micha> | bb |
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| 16:33 | <mercutio22> | Ok, I will ask an easier one, how can I purge every compiz related package?? |
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| 16:37 | <bja> | aptitude --purge compiz && aptitude --purge-unused |
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| 16:50 | <boolean> | hmm.. i seem to get segment fault when running qt4 based xmms frontends. (running testing by the way... i know.. you don't want to help...) |
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| 16:51 | <locklace> | boolean: check the bts and file a bug if there isn't one already there |
| 16:51 | <boolean> | i don't know how to do that |
| 16:51 | <boolean> | first time |
| 16:51 | <locklace> | !btssmite boolean |
| 16:51 | * | dpkg beats boolean around the head repeatedly with http://bugs.debian.org/ and apt-listbugs, along with a chainsaw if boolean is running testing or unstable |
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| 16:52 | <boolean> | :p |
| 16:52 | <locklace> | !tell boolean about bts |
| 16:52 | <locklace> | !tell boolean about reportbug |
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| 16:55 | <RedCom> | evening, is there someone who can spare me a minute helping me? I can't seem to assemble one of my raid arrays after install (no/bad superblock) |
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| 17:02 | <mercutio22> | is compiz broken on squeeze? |
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| 17:03 | <narsx> | hello |
| 17:03 | <RedCom> | the individual partitions aren't showing up in /dev either, but they still show in fdisk -l as raid autodetect |
| 17:03 | <narsx> | i need help to launch kde desktop on knoppix 6.2 |
| 17:07 | <boolean> | compiz is broken on squeeze |
| 17:07 | <boolean> | had to add emerald window decorator from an external source |
| 17:07 | <boolean> | else I didn't get any borders |
| 17:07 | <boolean> | also.. I couldn't get the extra and unstable plugins to work |
| 17:08 | <boolean> | when I checked them, they just got unchecked again |
| 17:08 | <locklace> | !tell narsx about knoppix |
| 17:08 | <boolean> | kde4 window manager has most of the feautures like wobbeling windows and 3d cube |
| 17:09 | <boolean> | the only thing I miss is windows that goes up in flames :p |
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| 17:10 | <narsx> | how do i get the kde work on knoppix 6.2 boolean? |
| 17:11 | <locklace> | !knoppix |
| 17:11 | <dpkg> | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distribution which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. http://www.knoppix.com/ unofficial: http://Debian-knoppix.alioth.Debian.org/ <Debian-live> is the Debian equivalent for publishing live systems. |
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| 17:11 | <abrotman> | narsx: this channel does not support knoppix |
| 17:11 | <boolean> | ahh.. maybe i should mention that compiz is broken on kde4.. don't know about gnome |
| 17:11 | <narsx> | ok |
| 17:11 | <narsx> | soory |
| 17:11 | <narsx> | soory |
| 17:11 | <boolean> | sooory |
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| 17:23 | <boolean> | i'm starting to love squeeze |
| 17:23 | <boolean> | can't wait until it gets stable |
| 17:23 | <boolean> | kde4 is just beautiful |
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| 17:34 | <mercutio32> | is anyone here unisng compiz in squeeze> |
| 17:34 | <mercutio32> | ? |
| 17:34 | <boolean> | i did |
| 17:35 | <boolean> | and i mentioned something about it if you scroll up... |
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| 17:40 | <abrotman> | boolean: he joined after your conversation |
| 17:42 | <boolean> | oh |
| 17:42 | <boolean> | sorry about that |
| 17:43 | <boolean> | mercutio22, still here? i can priv msg what i said if you are interested |
| 17:44 | <boolean> | uhm |
| 17:44 | <boolean> | two different persons :p |
| 17:44 | <boolean> | 22 and 32 :p |
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| 17:45 | <boolean> | is openoffice 3 entering squeeze soon? |
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| 17:45 | <abrotman> | it already has |
| 17:45 | <abrotman> | ,versions openoffice.org |
| 17:45 | <judd> | openoffice.org -- etch: 2.0.4.dfsg.2-7etch6; etch-security: 2.0.4.dfsg.2-7etch9; etch-backports: 1:2.4.1-12~bpo40+1; lenny: 1:2.4.1+dfsg-1+lenny3; lenny-security: 1:2.4.1+dfsg-1+lenny6; lenny-backports: 1:3.1.1-15+squeeze1~bpo50+1; squeeze-security: 1:3.1.1-15+squeeze1; squeeze: 1:3.1.1-16; sid: 1:3.2.0-4 |
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| 17:49 | <boolean> | 2? |
| 17:49 | <boolean> | i can't see a 3 there? |
| 17:50 | <boolean> | a.. 1:3 |
| 17:50 | <boolean> | ok |
| 17:51 | <icebrain> | btw, what's the "1:" supposed to mean? |
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| 17:53 | <boolean> | and what is the openoffice.org2 packages? |
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| 17:58 | <themill> | !version epoch |
| 17:58 | <dpkg> | The version number of a packge have a prepended number called the "epoch". It is only added when the system for upstream version numbers changes. Example: in sarge, X was version 6.8 but in etch it was 1.1 (xfree86->xorg). But 1<6, so we add an epoch "2:" to signify that everything with 2: is newer (if there is no : the epoch is assumed to be "0"). See section 5.6.12 of <policy> or ask me about <compare versions> <debian revision> |
| 17:58 | <themill> | boolean: there aren't any in debian |
| 17:59 | <boolean> | i got them when using aptitude search |
| 18:00 | <boolean> | didn't have any description |
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| 18:00 | <boolean> | and had a v in front |
| 18:00 | <boolean> | don't know what that means |
| 18:01 | <themill> | !virtual package |
| 18:01 | <dpkg> | virtual package is, like, a package that doesn't really exist but represents a function which several real packages fulfill, which appears in the Provides control file field of another package. The effect is as if the package(s) which provide a particular virtual package name had been listed by name everywhere the virtual package name appears. To find which package(s) provide a foo virtual package, use $ apt-cache showpkg foo; |
| 18:02 | <mercutio22> | boolean: yeah, i am here. |
| 18:02 | <themill> | ,rprovides openoffice.org2 |
| 18:02 | <judd> | openoffice.org2 in lenny/i386 is provided by: openoffice.org. |
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| 18:04 | <boolean> | mercutio22, I thought you were someone else. there also was a mercutio32 |
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| 18:04 | <mercutio22> | boolean: yeah,,that was me, I connected with two different machines by mistake |
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| 18:05 | <boolean> | ok. did you get the compiz stuff i said? |
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| 18:06 | <Dalgiss> | :) |
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| 18:11 | <Dalgiss> | blet |
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| 18:14 | <Minase> | hy |
| 18:14 | <Minase> | can someone help me with something please |
| 18:14 | <Minase> | i have a little problem |
| 18:14 | <themill> | !ask |
| 18:14 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 18:14 | <Minase> | i want to know how video streaming works,didnt find my answer on the NET |
| 18:15 | <Dalgiss> | anyone here using Backtrack4? |
| 18:15 | <Dalgiss> | :) |
| 18:15 | <themill> | !bt4 |
| 18:15 | <dpkg> | BackTrack is a Linux distribution based on <Ubuntu> Intrepid (as of BackTrack 4), previously <SLAX>. Derived from merging two penetration-testing distributions: WHAX (formerly WHOPPIX) and Auditor Security Linux. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.backtrack-linux.org/ #backtrack-linux on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on debian>. |
| 18:15 | <themill> | Dalgiss: try #backtrack-linux on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 18:15 | <Dalgiss> | ty |
| 18:15 | <Minase> | let me explain the problem |
| 18:16 | <Minase> | how can i make time skip in a video,lets say it just loaded 3 mins out of 10 but i want to jump to min 5 and to load form there |
| 18:18 | <abrotman> | that depends on the player |
| 18:18 | <Minase> | hmm so it isnt ffmpeg thing? or any other codec? |
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| 18:22 | <bob493> | I'm having problems with initramfs |
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| 18:24 | <bob493> | when I enter my password it says "unknown fstype, bad password or options |
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| 18:24 | <bob493> | I know the password is correct... and the only options I'm using under "/etc/crypttab" is "luks" |
| 18:25 | <bob493> | what could be the problem? :P |
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| 18:35 | <bob493> | How can I make sure LVM2 will load during startup |
| 18:35 | <bob493> | ? |
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| 18:44 | <ross28> | HI BRO-S |
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| 19:08 | <lancelot_of> | hi all |
| 19:09 | <lancelot_of> | any rapid way to burn a generic iso on usb stick and to make it bootable?It seems to me unetbootin works only with linux distros |
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| 19:10 | <abrotman> | !usb install |
| 19:10 | <dpkg> | Yes, it is possible to install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 . To download USB stick images, ask me about <install debian>. (Older, outdated article at http://d-i.pascal.at/). BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
| 19:11 | <lancelot_of> | abrotman, thanks but i'm not interested in burning/installing a debian iso |
| 19:11 | <abrotman> | okay |
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| 19:20 | <lancelot_of> | but i'm searching for burning IN debian a generic iso on usb then making it bootable |
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| 19:21 | <addux> | anyone have any luck with 64-bit flashplayer for debian lenny |
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| 19:22 | <lancelot_of> | hallo? |
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| 19:23 | <addux> | was geht |
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| 19:25 | <addux> | was ist gut? |
| 19:25 | <bremner> | !tell addux -about de |
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| 19:36 | * | MeCooL i`m back |
| 19:37 | <Ravi> | When is Debian squeeze going to be released officially? |
| 19:37 | <Ravi> | (that's the one after lenny, correct?) |
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| 19:55 | <lancelot_of> | how to burn a generic iso image on usb drive? |
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| 20:04 | <bremner> | lancelot_of: I'm not not sure you can in a straightforward way, if by usb drive you mean flash memory. /msg dpkg syslinux for a bootloader that can use iso iirc, or see unetbootin |
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| 21:16 | <lantizia> | Hey, anyone ever email Ian and get an answer back :) lol |
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| 21:19 | <abrotman> | you joined to ask that? |
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| 21:24 | <astronut> | lantizia: yes |
| 21:24 | <astronut> | (not me personally, but someone has) |
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| 22:18 | <supermatt1000> | i need help installing this because there is no deb for it http://qjoypad.sourceforge.net/#download |
| 22:19 | <supermatt1000> | any one here cause i need help |
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| 22:26 | <LinuxNoob88> | how do I download gtk+2.1? |
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| 22:46 | <Whoppix27> | hi |
| 22:46 | <Whoppix27> | whatz up? |
| 22:47 | * | Hawkeye is away smoking... |
| 22:47 | <Whoppix27> | hi hawk |
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| 22:55 | <lobby> | how secure, concerning privacy is chromium? |
| 22:56 | <lantizia> | abrotman: cool, well lets see if he answers my ramblings lol |
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| 22:57 | <grimx> | hello |
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| 23:01 | <rudi_s_> | lobby: I don't have any checks, but it's from google, this should tell you everything you need. |
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| 23:02 | <grimx> | hello |
| 23:02 | <lobby> | yes that is why i ask rudi_s_ nobody seams to know ... and I do like the browser |
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| 23:02 | <chiqui> | Hi |
| 23:03 | <rudi_s_> | lobby: Well, it's open source, you can check it ;-) I don't use anything from google if I can avoid so I'm not much help there .. |
| 23:03 | <chiqui> | How could i know if someone install a package on my computer using .tar.gz or using aptitude or using apt-get |
| 23:04 | <rudi_s_> | chiqui: Check the dpkg logs? But why would anybody do that? Do you give them the password to your system? |
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| 23:05 | <chiqui> | Nobody knows my password it just a question because im trying to understand that issue |
| 23:05 | <chiqui> | for academic reasons |
| 23:05 | <rudi_s_> | chiqui: Ok. You can't be sure! If anybody got access to your machine you're lost. |
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| 23:06 | <rudi_s_> | If you used tripwire and then boot from a Live-CD and verify the binaries you could check it though. |
| 23:06 | <chiqui> | I know that tool |
| 23:06 | <chiqui> | is amazing |
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| 23:07 | <chiqui> | my question is only to how could i know how my package are installed on my system |
| 23:07 | <siziki> | dpkg -L packagesname |
| 23:07 | <dpkg> | ii packagesname 2.3-12.3 siziki's private gamp collection |
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| 23:09 | <rudi_s_> | And dpkg -l to list all installed _packages_. |
| 23:09 | <chiqui> | with that information i knoww the package name the version installed but could know if was used .tar.gz or dpkg, aptitude or apt-get |
| 23:09 | <rudi_s_> | If somebody installs a program from a .tar.gz it won't get detected. |
| 23:09 | <chiqui> | Ok |
| 23:09 | <chiqui> | Thanks |
| 23:10 | <rudi_s_> | chiqui: If you see it with dpkg -L/-l it wasn't from a .tar.gz, but you don't know if it's aptitude/apt-get/dpkg. |
| 23:10 | <rudi_s_> | You could check /var/log/dpkg /var/log/aptitude .. |
| 23:10 | <chiqui> | rudi_s_: i know that apt-get or aptitude both use dpkg in a bottom level |
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| 23:12 | <rudi_s_> | chiqui: Well, the logs could let you differentiate between dpkg/apt-get/aptitude .. |
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| 23:12 | <chiqui> | rudi_s_: the great thing about these package are the posibility of download the package and all package relate to him to solve dependecy problems |
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| 23:12 | <chiqui> | rudi_s_:Of course |
| 23:12 | <rudi_s_> | Yes. |
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| 23:13 | <chiqui> | rudi_s_: sorry my english is not good |
| 23:13 | <chiqui> | LOL |
| 23:13 | <rudi_s_> | np |
| 23:13 | <chiqui> | what is np |
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| 23:14 | <rudi_s_> | no problem |
| 23:14 | <chiqui> | thanks |
| 23:14 | <rudi_s_> | np ;-) |
| 23:15 | <chiqui> | im trying to install gentoo a friend told me that is incredible! |
| 23:15 | <chiqui> | please correct me when my english is too foreign jajaja |
| 23:16 | <rudi_s_> | chiqui: Well, it's different. But I prefer Debian because I don't have to wait so long for a package to compile .. |
| 23:16 | <chiqui> | someone has work with linux from scratch |
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| 23:16 | <chiqui> | that's a good reason |
| 23:16 | <chiqui> | i prefer debian |
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| 23:17 | <chiqui> | rudi_s_: you know something about FreeBSD |
| 23:17 | <rudi_s_> | chiqui: Not much, haven't tried it yet. |
| 23:17 | <rudi_s_> | But this is still #debian ... |
| 23:17 | <chiqui> | rudi_s_: you know something about FreeBSD |
| 23:18 | <chiqui> | rudi_s_: im know im sorry |
| 23:18 | <chiqui> | rudi_s_: thanks i have to go |
| 23:18 | <rudi_s_> | np |
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| 23:34 | <aabrown> | I need to know |
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| 23:34 | <aabrown> | How do I restart the CUPS service |
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| 23:34 | <aabrown> | Just got a new hp printer, the .ppd file for it is there |
| 23:35 | <aabrown> | but when I actually try to install it, it tells me to restart the CUPS service |
| 23:36 | <aabrown> | But how do I actually restart the service? or rather turn it on |
| 23:37 | <ml|> | /etc/init.d/cups restart should do |
| 23:37 | <aabrown> | Gives me the error: Restarting Common Unix Printing System: cupsdcupsd: Child exited on signal 15! |
| 23:37 | <aabrown> | failed! |
| 23:38 | <ml|> | try stop then start |
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| 23:40 | <aabrown> | ok it restarted. |
| 23:40 | <aabrown> | now I will try to install printer. |
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| 23:42 | <aabrown> | okay looks like it works, but let me try to actually print something |
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| 23:53 | <aabrown> | thank god for IRC |
| 23:53 | <aabrown> | my printer prints |
| 23:53 | <aabrown> | restart my computer just to make sure |
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