| --- | Log | opened Tue Feb 16 00:00:13 2010 |
| --- | Day | changed Tue Feb 16 2010 |
| 00:00 | <kevix1> | jar: yeah, can play all sorts of old-school games |
| 00:00 | <snogglethorpe> | hm, does oftc.net have an analogue of freenode's "ALIS" thing, for listing channels in a less nutty way than /list? |
| 00:00 | <jar> | kevix1: it can run Windows 3.11 and lots of interesting apps too |
| 00:00 | <TCW> | jar, sure about the win3.2 thing? |
| 00:00 | <kevix1> | jar: yup. all those 'unsupported apps' |
| 00:00 | <TCW> | 3.1 even |
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| 00:01 | <jar> | TCW: yup |
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| 00:01 | <jar> | TCW: got a fully installed 3.11 setup w/ dosbox |
| 00:01 | <jar> | :P |
| 00:01 | <etzerd> | sney: here's the result: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 0046 (rev 12) |
| 00:01 | <kevix1> | etzerd: sorry about that. I was going to ask what the top line was. |
| 00:01 | <sney> | etzerd: heh, I saw. |
| 00:01 | <TCW> | jar, may I see a screenshot? :) |
| 00:01 | <sney> | and when you paste big things, use http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 00:01 | <jar> | TCW: Sure :) |
| 00:02 | <etzerd> | kevixl: you see the result of 'xrandr'? |
| 00:02 | <etzerd> | 640x480 0.0 |
| 00:02 | <kevix1> | etzerd: I saw enought of it to know that the max was 1024x768 |
| 00:02 | <etzerd> | how can I change that? |
| 00:02 | <kevix1> | etzerd: are you running sid? |
| 00:02 | <etzerd> | I'm running debian 5.04 |
| 00:03 | <kevix1> | etzerd: that command only lists what your system can do. |
| 00:03 | <sney> | a newer kernel from bpo might give you what you need |
| 00:03 | <jar> | TCW: http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/8696/win31.png |
| 00:03 | <kevix1> | sney: that is a great idea. |
| 00:03 | <TCW> | sney, any prolly a newer xorg is also needed I guess |
| 00:04 | <sney> | hopefully backports has both |
| 00:04 | <etzerd> | ok guys, talk to you tomorrow, |
| 00:04 | <etzerd> | it is midnight now on the east I have to go to bed and go to work to |
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| 00:05 | <TCW> | jar, holy moly! :) |
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| 00:05 | <jar> | TCW: Kind of an abomination, but a sexy one ;P |
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| 00:05 | <TCW> | jar, hehe, true! :) |
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| 00:05 | <jar> | TCW: Win 3.11 can run IE5 I believe. |
| 00:06 | <jar> | I should try that.. |
| 00:06 | <TCW> | jar, who does need THAT? :) |
| 00:06 | <jar> | Mad men. |
| 00:06 | <jar> | Like me. |
| 00:06 | <jar> | :) |
| 00:06 | <jar> | Just the idea of running IE in DOSBox intrigues me. |
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| 00:07 | <jar> | TCW: It was very easy to setup, just extracted an ISO to a directory, let DOSbox mount that dir, ran the Win3.11 shell installer, voila. |
| 00:07 | <jar> | :) |
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| 00:08 | <jar> | http://www.opus.co.tt/dave/ |
| 00:08 | <jar> | excellent place to get utilities to test w/ dosbox |
| 00:08 | <TCW> | jar, I see no reason why it shouldn't be that easy :) |
| 00:08 | <jar> | TCW: in the past it required a lot of odd hacks |
| 00:08 | <jar> | now it just works |
| 00:09 | <jar> | i use dosbox more often than i do FreeDOS w/ VirtualBox because of how well DOSBox intereacts with the host OS |
| 00:09 | <jar> | e.g. it's extremely simple to mount dirs |
| 00:09 | <TCW> | jar, I only had some issues with sound |
| 00:10 | <jar> | yeah, it can be a 'gotcha' sometimes |
| 00:10 | <TCW> | but did not check recently |
| 00:10 | <jar> | its kind of interesting how many dos utilities are still being updated |
| 00:12 | <jar> | obviously if i wanted a CLI experience i'd just use linux |
| 00:12 | <jar> | ;) |
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| 00:58 | <astronut> | wtf? microsoft actually tells you to install moonlight |
| 00:59 | <jar> | microsoft <3's mono |
| 00:59 | <astronut> | so i see |
| 01:00 | <jar> | they're like BFF or something |
| 01:00 | <astronut> | i guess to avoid anti-competitive whatever |
| 01:00 | <jar> | how is that not anti-competitive? |
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| 01:00 | <jar> | either way you're using their technology |
| 01:00 | <jar> | *shrug* |
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| 01:02 | <kevix1> | at one time smb was a MS-only technology, and someone made samba. so this is similar. |
| 01:02 | <jar> | are you trying to defend moonlight? i can't tell |
| 01:02 | <jar> | sorry |
| 01:03 | <jm_> | not really, they went to great lengths to try and cripple samba compared to their offerings, so far it doesn't seem to be true with this stuff |
| 01:03 | <jar> | Everyone knows Miguel de Icaza has been trying to be a Microsoft lapdog since the mid 90s |
| 01:04 | <jar> | he just didn't have a degree so they couldn't sponsor his visa |
| 01:04 | <kevix1> | well someone would say that having something that is compatible leads to dependency and some would say that have the option is a positive for the user |
| 01:04 | <jar> | so open source was his second choice |
| 01:04 | <jar> | meh, i've yet to find a situation where i'd even consider installing moonlight |
| 01:04 | <jar> | so im good |
| 01:04 | <kop> | astronut: It's called EEE. Embrace, extend, extinguish. See the Combes MS email archives at groklaw.net. |
| 01:05 | <jar> | haha |
| 01:05 | <jar> | true |
| 01:06 | <astronut> | kop: heh |
| 01:06 | <astronut> | jar: i guess translucent technology, open implementation is better than closed technology and closed client (flash) |
| 01:06 | <astronut> | jar: olympics |
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| 01:06 | <strayhyena> | hello |
| 01:07 | <kevix1> | I await html5/ogg to replace flash! |
| 01:07 | <jar> | astronut: i dont like sports |
| 01:07 | <kop> | astronut: So it's ok then? Sorta like a little bit pregnant? |
| 01:07 | <jar> | i dont have very much nationalistic pride either |
| 01:07 | <jar> | so i dunno |
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| 01:08 | <kevix1> | its about alternatives. if you have none, then you are pushed one way. |
| 01:08 | <strayhyena> | i'm running ubuntu right now and I'm wanting to install debian. The problem is once Debian is installed the wireless doesn't work, and that means I cant download anything to enable wireless, which makes me stuck. Is there something I can do to enable wireless? |
| 01:09 | <gsimmons> | strayhyena: What is your wireless device? |
| 01:09 | <strayhyena> | iwl3945 |
| 01:09 | <jm_> | download it where you can and install stuff manually |
| 01:09 | <strayhyena> | it complains about a firmware at install |
| 01:10 | <gsimmons> | strayhyena: You can supply that at installation time ; /msg dpkg installer firmware (not that WPA is not supported by Debian-Installer) |
| 01:10 | <gsimmons> | s/not that/note that/ |
| 01:10 | <kop> | strayhyena: If wireless works with the installer you can use the install disk as a rescue cd and then install a newer kernel from backports.org (if you need it to support newer hardware.) Otherwise you can in general debug the problem from there. |
| 01:10 | <kop> | strayhyena: But follow gsimmons advice. |
| 01:12 | <astronut> | i think he got through the install |
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| 01:12 | <astronut> | so you can just install the firmware later |
| 01:12 | <astronut> | you want the firmware-iwlwifi package out of non-free |
| 01:14 | <svksrz> | After installing Debian Lenny Net Install on a Compaq Presario 2100 laptop, /var/cache/apt/archives/udev_150-2_i386.deb is being screwy - I am trying to dist-upgrade to Squeeze, something about me needing to upgrade kernel along with udev? |
| 01:14 | <svksrz> | It says to run "apt-get -f install" with no packages named to fix this - and when I do it says that it's uninstalling udev in order to install udev and fails with the same problem. |
| 01:15 | <svksrz> | This seems like a common upgrade SNAFU, does anybody know what's going on here or how to get around it? |
| 01:15 | <strayhyena> | hmm, ubuntu supposedly uses free drivers for the wireless card but debian does not. can I use free drivers for my card? |
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| 01:15 | <gsimmons> | strayhyena: The iwl3945 driver is part of the 2.6.26 kernel. |
| 01:16 | <astronut> | gsimmons: but the driver still needs the firmware |
| 01:16 | <astronut> | binary blob, etc, etc |
| 01:16 | <gsimmons> | astronut: So? It's still a free driver. |
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| 01:16 | <astronut> | gsimmons: oh, i missed a line |
| 01:17 | <astronut> | strayhyena: the driver is free, but there is software that runs on the card itself that is stored in non-volatile memory so it has to get loaded on boot |
| 01:17 | <jm_> | svksrz: did you check BTS? |
| 01:17 | <astronut> | that software is non-free (it's a very small binary blob) - ubuntu redistributes that blob but debian keeps it in non-free |
| 01:17 | <strayhyena> | astronut, that makes sense now |
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| 01:18 | <strayhyena> | thanks |
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| 01:18 | <svksrz> | jm_ I am looking at stuff now, lots of people with this problem but haven't found a fix yet - I am still looking now in less obvious places |
| 01:18 | <astronut> | strayhyena: anyway, the package you want is firmware-iwlwifi, it's part of debian non-free so you should be able to install it easily with a usb key or something |
| 01:18 | <astronut> | or just plug into a wired ethernet connection for a few minutes if you can |
| 01:19 | <gsimmons> | svksrz: Also ask dpkg about squeeze udev. |
| 01:19 | <strayhyena> | do I just download the deb file and install? |
| 01:19 | <astronut> | svksrz: i remember seeing a FUCKED: udev in the topic of #debian-devel the other day, it may not have propogated fix to testing |
| 01:19 | <astronut> | strayhyena: yep |
| 01:19 | <strayhyena> | cool |
| 01:20 | <astronut> | strayhyena: though you might want to consider adding non-free to your sources.list so you can get updates in it |
| 01:20 | <svksrz> | gsimmons; THANK YOU |
| 01:20 | <kop> | strayhyena: Better to install from the repos using aptitude or whatever just like any other package. (Boot from the cd in rescue mode to do this need be.) |
| 01:21 | <astronut> | kop: sounds like he has a system, just offline |
| 01:21 | <astronut> | kop: i pointed him at the .deb... |
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| 01:21 | <kop> | astronut: But he was online to install. So he can re-run the installer in rescue mode and be back on-line and work from there. |
| 01:21 | <strayhyena> | i'm getting it from the package from debian's package thing |
| 01:21 | <strayhyena> | the webpage |
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| 01:22 | <astronut> | kop: why go back into the installer? he has a working system without networking, he installs the package and he has networking |
| 01:22 | <astronut> | why mess around w/ rescue mode |
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| 01:22 | <kop> | astronut: Ok. But in the general case installing .debs is a bad habit. |
| 01:22 | <astronut> | kop: it's a one-time setup thing, and why do you think he was online to install? |
| 01:22 | <jm_> | so we should not install anything then? :) |
| 01:22 | <astronut> | jm_++ |
| 01:24 | <kop> | astronut: Install .debs directly and you may not be getting stuff from debian repos, so you're not letting debian do systems integration and your on your own with security updates, system upgrades, etc. and it's up to you to make sure everything works together. |
| 01:24 | <astronut> | kop: wtf? he's downloading it from packages.debian.org |
| 01:24 | <kop> | astronut: Also, you want to maintain the auto/noauto flags used by the higher level tools. |
| 01:24 | <astronut> | and then adding it to his sources.list |
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| 01:24 | <astronut> | the auto flag is somewhat valid |
| 01:24 | <astronut> | but manually installing a driver from the debian repos isn't going to kill you |
| 01:24 | <kop> | astronut: I said it'd work in this case. |
| 01:25 | <strayhyena> | can't I just set the auto flag manually? synaptic lets me do that |
| 01:25 | <kop> | strayhyena: Sure. |
| 01:25 | <astronut> | strayhyena: sure |
| 01:25 | <astronut> | or just apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi |
| 01:25 | <astronut> | whatever program you use |
| 01:25 | <astronut> | it'll just say "blah is the latest version. blah set to manually installed" |
| 01:25 | <astronut> | kop is severely overreacting |
| 01:25 | <strayhyena> | i'll just go ahead and try it and see how it goes |
| 01:26 | <astronut> | strayhyena: it'll work just fine |
| 01:26 | <astronut> | it's by far the cleanest solution, kop is taking some general advice to the extreme |
| 01:26 | <astronut> | and his advice isn't even neccesarilly going to work |
| 01:26 | <kop> | astronut: It's a pet peeve. Newbies are always going around the net installing random software, either as .debs or with ./configure;make;make install, and then wonder why things break later or their system turns to muck. It's a habit leftover from managing MS systems where you've no choice but to get drivers or whatever from whereever. |
| 01:27 | <kop> | astronut: Yes. I'm overreacting. |
| 01:27 | <astronut> | kop: ok, but your solution involves him making a driver disk w/ the udebs, going back into the install environment, and still won't work if he uses WPA which is pretty much standard everywhere |
| 01:28 | <astronut> | whereas mine has him download and install a file from debian and moving on with his life |
| 01:28 | <astronut> | he never said he had connectivity in the installer |
| 01:28 | <astronut> | and to use firmware during the install process you have to actually unpack it and such |
| 01:28 | <astronut> | and it's copied manually into the folder |
| 01:29 | <astronut> | and still not managed by the package manager |
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| 01:34 | <strayhyena> | can I install a ubuntu package into debian? |
| 01:34 | <jar> | hm, chatroulette is very creepy.. |
| 01:34 | <jar> | strayhyena: typicall, yes |
| 01:34 | <astronut> | strayhyena: "it depends" but for what reason? |
| 01:35 | <kop> | strayhyena: Only if you want to support it and keep it working with the rest of the system. |
| 01:35 | <svksrz> | deb http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel sid is down until further notice? How else is the easiest way (apt-get?) to upgrade to kernel 2.6.27 |
| 01:35 | <strayhyena> | i'm wanting to install the newer version of the flash plugin but adobe only offers a deb for ubuntu, or should I just get the tar |
| 01:35 | <jm_> | svksrz: why not use 2.6.32? |
| 01:36 | <jm_> | strayhyena: did you check what d-m is offering? |
| 01:36 | <astronut> | strayhyena: flashplugin-nonfree in non-free will just install the latest version from adobe's site for you |
| 01:37 | <svksrz> | jm_ Didn't read anywhere that 2.6.32 would fix my udev problems after an upgrade.. dpkg: As of <udev> 150 in squeeze, Linux kernel 2.6.27 or newer is required |
| 01:37 | <kevix1> | for my wifi card, I needed a non-free package called 'firmware-ipw2x00' |
| 01:37 | <jm_> | svksrz: note or newer |
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| 01:37 | <svksrz> | jm_ My apologies |
| 01:39 | <kevix1> | strayhyena: you can use the ubuntu live cd as a way to get the firmware (tar.gz or deb) and then save it to your HD, then boot into debian, install, and then wifi |
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| 01:39 | <strayhyena> | ahhhh |
| 01:40 | <strayhyena> | do i need to reinstall it from the debian repository to make sure it's compatable afterwards? |
| 01:41 | <strayhyena> | oh you meant use it as a source of internet |
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| 01:42 | <kevix1> | strayhyena: yeah, as a means for temp. net access |
| 01:42 | <strayhyena> | what is debian designed to be used for? |
| 01:42 | <sney> | everything |
| 01:43 | <strayhyena> | yay |
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| 01:43 | <sney> | sometimes it's a little annoying to get it installed, especially with tricky or very new hardware |
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| 01:43 | <kevix1> | you want to install debian, but the design is to be as free as possible, and as such the installer does not contain non-free bits but can install non-free bits if you supply them. |
| 01:44 | <svksrz> | jm_ ; Sorry to be such a bother with this... "xserver-xorg-core: Depends: udev (>= 149) but 0.125-7+lenny3 is to be installed" is the error I get when I try to apt-get install the linux-image 2.6.32 |
| 01:44 | <svksrz> | It's not that I am too lazy to google this, it's just again with the udev |
| 01:44 | <jm_> | svksrz: do you have squeeze repository in sources.list? |
| 01:45 | <astronut> | kevix1: it's in non-free |
| 01:45 | <svksrz> | Yes |
| 01:46 | <svksrz> | I can see the image .32 with apt-cache no problem |
| 01:46 | <svksrz> | Patch to .32 and the .32-486 for older computers, which is what I would need |
| 01:46 | <kevix1> | astronut: I meant the way d-i can use a usb/sdhc/floppy disk. |
| 01:46 | <astronut> | kevix1: oh, it doesn't use the debs |
| 01:46 | <astronut> | kevix1: if you're already installed ,you can just install the .deb out of non-free |
| 01:46 | <jm_> | svksrz: what does 'apt-cache policy udev' say? |
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| 01:47 | <kevix1> | astronut: yeah, I did that. |
| 01:47 | <strayhyena> | can debian read from ext4? just read? |
| 01:47 | <jm_> | !ext4 |
| 01:47 | <dpkg> | [ext4][ext4] Fourth extended file system. Supports volumes up to one exabyte (1024 petabytes) and extents. Support for ext4 filesystem features included in e2fsprogs since 1.41~WIP-2008-06-17-1. Merged in mainline kernel, available in 2.6.28 and later. Ask me about <ext3->ext4> and <ext4->ext3>. Not supported by GRUB Legacy (Debian bug #511121). http://wiki.debian.org/Ext4 http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/ #ext4 on irc.oftc.net. |
| 01:47 | <kevix1> | astronut: are you saying that the installer images have non-free in sources.list? |
| 01:47 | <astronut> | kevix1: nope |
| 01:48 | <svksrz> | http://paste.debian.net/60014/ jm_ thank you for helping with this |
| 01:48 | <astronut> | i was answering your first satement, but i misread 'needed' as 'need' |
| 01:48 | <svksrz> | Apt-get and google are all I know until I get better, for sure. |
| 01:48 | <kevix1> | strayhyena: not sure what you mean. who else can read ext4 images from the linux kernel (not sure about bsd folks)? |
| 01:48 | * | astronut shrugs - when i get a laptop i do a netinst using wired (faster anyway) and install the firmware w/ apt once the system is installed, then switch to wireless |
| 01:48 | <astronut> | i think that's the easiest solution |
| 01:48 | <jm_> | svksrz: so try apt* install linux-image-... udev |
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| 01:49 | <svksrz> | jm_ Brilliant.......... |
| 01:49 | <jm_> | svksrz: just out of curiosity, are you using aptitude or apt-get? |
| 01:50 | <svksrz> | jm_ using apt-get |
| 01:51 | <jm_> | svksrz: right, I think using aptitude would offer you this solution without doing anything special |
| 01:52 | <kevix1> | jm_: maybe dselect :) |
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| 01:52 | <jm_> | heh I remember multiple runs of dselect on debian from infomagic 1994 cd-s to sort things out |
| 01:52 | <svksrz> | jm_ Understand, I read something looking for my fix that Aptitude was the proper vessel for installing this -- thanks for all your help, I'll see if this works |
| 01:52 | <jm_> | svksrz: no worries |
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| 01:57 | * | astronut got into debian right at the end of dselect |
| 01:57 | <astronut> | though i still have the floppies i used to install woody somewhere |
| 01:58 | <astronut> | i used like 2 and copied over them repeatidly as i kept switching them |
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| 02:05 | <rektide> | suggestions for running xorg 7.5? i suppose i could jhbuild it from source, dunno if there's s marter easier way. |
| 02:05 | <jar> | why do you need 7.5? |
| 02:05 | <rektide> | MPX |
| 02:06 | <jar> | ah |
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| 02:06 | <jar> | i guess if you can't find someone who builds the debs for you |
| 02:07 | <jar> | you can just compile it yourself |
| 02:07 | <jar> | but that'd be kind of a PITA |
| 02:07 | <rektide> | i'll probably try just deploying the XSF build system. probably the best means, although i'm not sure how they sync with upstream. |
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| 02:07 | <jar> | well, rektide |
| 02:07 | <jm_> | 7.5 is in testing |
| 02:07 | <jar> | the problem with doing xorg outside of apt is that apt will be unaware of your xorg version all together |
| 02:07 | <jar> | well there you go |
| 02:08 | <jar> | the last time i even bothered to know my version of X11 was when the switch from XFree86 to Xorg took place. |
| 02:08 | <jar> | heh heh |
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| 02:09 | <rektide> | oh sigh. it is right there. |
| 02:09 | <jar> | it happens to the best (and worst) of us |
| 02:09 | <jar> | ;) |
| 02:09 | <rektide> | i may none the less try to deploy the XStrikeForce's build system on my laptop |
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| 02:10 | <jar> | i get sad when claws doesn't find any new email |
| 02:10 | <jar> | :[ |
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| 02:39 | <meglaw> | does anyone use centerim? i cant work out how to re-ask authorztion for msn contacts |
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| 03:41 | <mib_3whip76px4qa> | http://varietytribe.forumcommunity.net/ |
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| 03:43 | <jmm> | hi. |
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| 03:44 | <erKURITA> | oh hai |
| 03:45 | <erKURITA> | mib_3whip76px4qa no, gtfo |
| 03:45 | <erKURITA> | :< |
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| 04:24 | <mix22891> | סססס |
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| 05:14 | <oz7t> | is gcc the same compiler as in ubuntu? |
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| 05:16 | <jm_> | oz7t: in general yes |
| 05:17 | <oz7t> | jm_ thanks how do i make simpli graphic in this compilrt ?? |
| 05:17 | <jm_> | oz7t: I don't understand your question |
| 05:18 | <oz7t> | jm_ i have made a litlle parallel program for my port and all leds are workink ok |
| 05:19 | <oz7t> | jm_ i wolds make a frame around |
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| 05:19 | <jm_> | oz7t: around what? |
| 05:20 | <oz7t> | jm: around my litlle program a window round my program if you understend my question. |
| 05:21 | <oz7t> | jm_i am not specially good in englich hihi |
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| 05:22 | <Nabilou> | Hi all, I can't run ./configure in lenny |
| 05:22 | <oz7t> | jm_ i would like to make two horizontial and two wertical lines |
| 05:22 | <Nabilou> | I've got this message : configure: error: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub |
| 05:22 | <Nabilou> | Do you have any idea? |
| 05:23 | <jm_> | oz7t: one can draw a simple frame using extended ascii characters or by writing a program for graphical displays |
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| 05:23 | <oz7t> | jm_ yes but i would like to go in a graphical mode |
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| 05:24 | <oz7t> | jm_ i can draw ...................................................... but thats not good |
| 05:25 | <jm_> | oz7t: use something like sdk, or even gtk/qt for simple stuff |
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| 05:25 | <jm_> | oz7t: not sdk but SDL |
| 05:25 | <oz7t> | jm_ i have fuond that prgram but thats not good |
| 05:26 | <jm_> | oz7t: then find whatever suits you |
| 05:26 | <oz7t> | jm_ yes i will try but as newbeginner it's difficult hi hi |
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| 05:29 | <oz7t> | www.olehasselbalch.dk posibble to translate in other laguages |
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| 07:03 | <Nabilou> | Hi, I can't compile with my debian lenny, I get this message : |
| 07:04 | <Nabilou> | checking for gcc... gcc |
| 07:04 | <Nabilou> | checking for C compiler default output file name... |
| 07:04 | <Nabilou> | configure: error: in `/usr/src/asterisk-addons-1.6.0.4': |
| 07:04 | <Nabilou> | configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables |
| 07:04 | <Nabilou> | See `config.log' for more details. |
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| 07:04 | <Nabilou> | and config.log ends with "configure exit 77" |
| 07:04 | <jm_> | do you have both g++ and gcc installed? |
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| 07:05 | <jm_> | heck just do it: |
| 07:05 | <jm_> | !b-e Nabilou |
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| 07:05 | <Nabilou> | jm_, yes both are installed |
| 07:05 | <jm_> | apparently not - install build-essential |
| 07:05 | <Nabilou> | it's installed to |
| 07:05 | <Nabilou> | *too |
| 07:05 | <jm_> | if that doesn't help you need to look in config.log and see what exactly fails |
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| 07:20 | <Ketsa> | hello, i just installed debian on a box with an ATI (hd4550) card, problem is scrolling a web page up or down is extremely slow. any ideas ? |
| 07:20 | <jm_> | which driver is it using? |
| 07:20 | <Ketsa> | radeonhd |
| 07:21 | <Ketsa> | I tried "ati" or "radeon" and cant see any difference. |
| 07:22 | <locklace> | Ketsa: what version of debian |
| 07:22 | <Ketsa> | squeeze |
| 07:22 | <jm_> | isn't that a r7xx series card? |
| 07:23 | <Ketsa> | no, its a radeon HD4550 |
| 07:23 | <jm_> | ahh more recent versions support r7xx too |
| 07:23 | <jm_> | yes, it's rv710 apparently |
| 07:25 | <Ketsa> | thats right. |
| 07:25 | <locklace> | Ketsa: you should use radeon and not radeonhd |
| 07:26 | <locklace> | Ketsa: have you installed firmware-linux-nonfree? |
| 07:26 | <Ketsa> | no, I need it ? |
| 07:26 | <locklace> | yes |
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| 07:26 | <daq> | hello |
| 07:26 | <Ketsa> | i'll try with radeon and the firmware, thanks ) |
| 07:27 | <daq> | i just did an upgrade of grub2 and grub-pc and got "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: no mapping exists for `damocles-root`" "Auto-detection of filesystem module failed." can someone help me? (unstable) |
| 07:28 | <jm_> | good stuff if I get new work machine with 4550 ;) |
| 07:29 | <jm_> | please let me know how it works |
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| 07:35 | <rulus> | Hi, I try to report a bug, but my e-mail doesn't seem to arrive properly. I don't get a confirmation e-mail and my report doesn't show up in the list. I'm using reportbug with the direct smtp option; someone an idea what might go wrong? |
| 07:35 | <Ketsa> | scrolling is still slow. |
| 07:35 | <locklace> | Ketsa: what kernel version |
| 07:36 | <Ketsa> | 2.6.30 |
| 07:36 | <petemc> | rulus: do the logs of your MTA show the mail as delivered? |
| 07:36 | <locklace> | judd kernel --release squeeze |
| 07:36 | <judd> | Available kernel versions are: squeeze: 2.6.32-trunk-686 (2.6.32-5) |
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| 07:36 | <locklace> | Ketsa: you're not up to date |
| 07:36 | <petemc> | rulus: oh, you're not using your MTA i take it.. |
| 07:36 | <rulus> | petemc: correct :) |
| 07:37 | <Ketsa> | i'll try 2.6.32 |
| 07:37 | <petemc> | rulus: does the reportbug process report the mail as delivered? |
| 07:37 | <locklace> | Ketsa: make sure the rest of your squeeze is up to date too. aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade |
| 07:38 | <rulus> | petemc: no, it doesn't, but it doesn't say it wasn't.. I'm using reportbugs cc option, and that mail does arrive however |
| 07:38 | <Nabilou> | jm_, Here is the first error in config.log : gcc: Internal error: Segmentation fault (program cc1) |
| 07:38 | <Nabilou> | Please submit a full bug report. |
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| 07:39 | <Nabilou> | *gcc: Internal error: Segmentation fault (program cc1) |
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| 07:40 | <Ketsa> | Thanks all, works great now. |
| 07:41 | <locklace> | !congratulate Ketsa |
| 07:41 | <dpkg> | Hugs & Puppies Ketsa, you did it! |
| 07:42 | <locklace> | Nabilou: either your os, your gcc install, or your hardware is fucked |
| 07:42 | <locklace> | Nabilou: can you compile hello.c |
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| 07:43 | <jm_> | Nabilou: do you see a test program it uses? |
| 07:43 | <Nabilou> | locklace, with "gcc -v hello.c" command? |
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| 07:47 | <locklace> | Nabilou: echo 'main() { puts("hello world\\n"); }' > hello.c ; gcc -o hello hello.c ; ./hello |
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| 07:50 | <Nabilou> | locklace, gcc -o hello hello.c returns "gcc: Internal error: Segmentation fault (program cc1) |
| 07:50 | <Nabilou> | " |
| 07:51 | <locklace> | Nabilou: reinstall all the build/compiler packages you have installed |
| 07:51 | <Nabilou> | locklace, I will |
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| 07:54 | <jm_> | Nabilou: do you see anything strange in dmesg? |
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| 07:58 | <Nabilou> | jm_, nope nothing strange :) |
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| 08:01 | <jm_> | Nabilou: sounds similar to my work box when I added two memory modules, it became unstable as hell, couldn't compile anything |
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| 08:03 | <locklace> | gcc is still the most reliable online memory tester there is |
| 08:03 | <jm_> | indeed, showed a problem for me where memtest simply passed |
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| 08:07 | <mix22891> | xxx |
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| 08:53 | <JUAN> | OLS |
| 08:53 | <JUAN> | OLLA |
| 08:53 | <JUAN> | OLA |
| 08:53 | <JUAN> | OOLA |
| 08:54 | <JUAN> | K PASA |
| 08:54 | <JUAN> | AKI |
| 08:54 | <JUAN> | E |
| 08:54 | <JUAN> | ?? |
| 08:54 | -!- | JUAN is now known as Guest180 |
| 08:54 | <Guest180> | NO |
| 08:54 | <Guest180> | OLA |
| 08:54 | <Guest180> | OLA |
| 08:54 | <Guest180> | OLA |
| 08:54 | <Guest180> | OLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 08:54 | <Guest180> | OLS |
| 08:54 | <Guest180> | OLA |
| 08:54 | <Guest180> | ALEX |
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| 08:55 | <Guest180> | K MIERDA |
| 08:55 | <Guest180> | DE CHAT |
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| 09:07 | <ike> | hola |
| 09:08 | <jmm> | hi. |
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| 09:10 | <amdgoon_> | hello |
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| 09:13 | <amdgoon_> | what is the best way to get 2.6.3 kernel on lenny? I used to use that kernel-archive.buildserver.net site but it is down. |
| 09:13 | <amdgoon_> | I mean 2.6.32 kernel |
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| 09:14 | <jmm> | amdgoon_: you can still download the source and compile it yourself. |
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| 09:18 | <amdgoon_> | right, but I don't wish to go through the config options. Way too many for me to understand. :-) |
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| 09:21 | <jmm> | hehe, it's possible to use the configuration of your old kernel, |
| 09:21 | <jmm> | trough new options will still have to be setuped. |
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| 09:25 | <amdgoon_> | right. I really liked that kernel-archive site. You could pull in different versions with apt-get, grub was happy, reboot and test the new kernel in about 5 minutes. bummer that it is no longer maintained. Maybe the maintainer got sick of the .config files, lol. |
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| 09:39 | <Cadmium01> | Why does the Update Manager say files in the update list are not Authenticated? |
| 09:40 | <Cadmium01> | How can I ensure I receive authenticated packages? |
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| 09:43 | <marcot> | Cadmium01: you must upgrade the debian-keyring package. |
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| 09:46 | <Cadmium01> | marcot, if it needs to be upgraded why is it not in the pdate list? |
| 09:46 | <Cadmium01> | *update list |
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| 09:47 | <marcot> | Cadmium01: sorry, the correct package is debian-archive-keyring. |
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| 09:48 | <Cadmium01> | marcot, is there a way to check what else needs to be upgraded on the system? |
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| 09:48 | <marcot> | Cadmium01: That's what update manager is for. You can use apt-get, aptitude or others, but they'll do the same thing. |
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| 09:49 | <Cadmium01> | marcot, then why does the debian-archive-manaer does not appear in update list? |
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| 09:49 | <Cadmium01> | marcot, if you had not told me, how would I know it needs to be upgraded? |
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| 09:50 | <marcot> | Cadmium01: I don't know then, it should be listed. |
| 09:51 | <marcot> | Cadmium01: Are you using only the official repositories? |
| 09:51 | <Cadmium01> | yes |
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| 09:53 | <Rovanion> | Lads, it seems like nothing that I put in the touchpad part of my xorg has no effect at all. What could be wrong? |
| 09:54 | <jmm> | wrong xorg.conf ? :) |
| 09:54 | <SNIPER0215> | I would like to help but i've never heard of it nor do I know what a xorg is. |
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| 09:55 | <Rovanion> | Well here it is in a pastebin: http://pastebin.org/92534 |
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| 09:57 | <Rovanion> | Just added the error that I get when I try to launch gsynaptics, clearly points out that Xorg.conf isn't read correctly. |
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| 09:58 | <Rovanion> | Or is it so that I need some additional firmware? |
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| 10:00 | <kurumin> | opa |
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| 10:02 | <marcot> | Rovanion: I haven't seen the error in that link. And I don't think this is related to firmware. |
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| 10:04 | <Rovanion> | Well I updated it, so it should be on the same adress but her it is the current adress again then: http://pastebin.org/92535 |
| 10:04 | <Rovanion> | Its right on the top of the bin |
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| 10:07 | <Cadmium01> | Guys, when you update packages with Update Manager, does it list files as Not Authenticated? |
| 10:07 | <Rovanion> | Is there something in the section that's missing? Maybe something pointing at the device in /dev or something like that. |
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| 10:08 | <somatiq> | hi all |
| 10:08 | <bittin> | hello |
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| 10:08 | <somatiq> | does anybody have an old version of Any Color You Like icon theme? |
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| 10:15 | <marcot> | Rovanion: Have you tried with SHMConfig "true" instead of "on", as it's suggested? |
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| 10:17 | <Rovanion> | marcot, Oh I have tried both values. I actually have both values in there at the same as you would have seen if you looked at the paste. |
| 10:18 | <marcot> | Rovanion: I don't know much about xorg.conf. |
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| 10:19 | <marcot> | Rovanion: Are you sure it's reading this file? Try to make a syntax error in it to test if it'll fail with a different message. |
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| 10:19 | <cobra-the-joker> | Hey guys ...can i use openbox with gnome ? |
| 10:19 | <jeff_hann> | cobra-the-joker, yes |
| 10:19 | <SNIPER0215> | Yeah |
| 10:20 | <cobra-the-joker> | jeff_hann , how can i ? |
| 10:20 | <jeff_hann> | install gnome and openbox |
| 10:20 | <jeff_hann> | logout |
| 10:20 | <Rovanion> | marcot, I have edited settings for my graphicscard/screen that have worked perfectly well. It's jsut the synaptics section that seems to be unread. Or could there be something in KDE overruling these options? |
| 10:20 | <jeff_hann> | then select from your display manager gnome/openbox |
| 10:21 | <cobra-the-joker> | aha ...ok |
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| 10:22 | <roxdragon> | we |
| 10:22 | <marcot> | Rovanion: have you tried removing the "SHMConfig" "on" line? |
| 10:23 | <Rovanion> | marcot, I have before, but I could always try it again. It is so that I have to restart Xorg for it to take effect right? |
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| 10:24 | <marcot> | Rovanion: Yes. I'd try the syntax error to see if the file is really being read first. |
| 10:25 | <SQlvpapir> | did anyone release a 802.11n non-pre chip yet? |
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| 10:25 | <mix22891> | Pךקשדק |
| 10:25 | <mix22891> | Please! how do i fix the sound? |
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| 10:27 | <mix22891> | Where i setup drivers please ? |
| 10:27 | <petemc> | !alsa-checklist |
| 10:27 | <dpkg> | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out and log in again) 2) use alsamixer and unmute channels and raise levels (also try muting some channels & toggle jack sense) 3) arts or esound stopped? 4) OSS modules unloaded? 5) speakers on? 6) modprobe snd-pcm-oss 7) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? Test your sound with aplay and a wav so codec issues don't confuse the situation. See also <list alsa users>. |
| 10:28 | <mix22891> | i can't anderstand this. im new at ubuntu |
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| 10:29 | <petemc> | mix22891: you need to ask in an ubuntu channel then, irc.freenode.net #ubuntu |
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| 10:30 | <mix22891> | ok thanks |
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| 10:30 | <Rovanion> | Xorg failed to launch when I added a random aoeu in the xorg. I removed the shmconfig on option, yet no cigarr |
| 10:31 | <mix22891> | how to join channel? |
| 10:31 | <Rovanion> | mix22891, /join #channelname |
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| 10:35 | <SNIPER0215> | Can I post links? |
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| 10:49 | <bittin> | http://data.fuskbugg.se/skalman01/2010-02-16-164235_1600x1200_scrot.png (my new found love <3) |
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| 11:08 | <ayaz> | hi |
| 11:09 | <amdgoon_> | hello |
| 11:09 | <beersss> | hi |
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| 11:27 | <code> | hello |
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| 12:18 | <francovalledor> | hi |
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| 12:18 | <francovalledor> | hi? |
| 12:18 | <francovalledor> | somebody? |
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| 12:18 | <mezzor> | francovalledor: Hej :) |
| 12:18 | <bja> | !ask |
| 12:18 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 12:19 | <francovalledor> | do you speak spanish? |
| 12:19 | <karme> | francovalledor: there is also #debian-es |
| 12:19 | <bja> | !es |
| 12:19 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 12:20 | <francovalledor> | thank you |
| 12:20 | <bja> | np |
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| 12:25 | <lancelot_of> | if i use alien to convert rpm to deb, i get "error: incorrect format: unknown tag |
| 12:25 | <lancelot_of> | " but the deb package is build. any suggestion to fix this annoying message? |
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| 12:27 | <sundaymorning> | I want to have my custom motd file, should I just comment out the motd updating lines in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh? |
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| 12:31 | <bja> | sundaymorning: try "man motd" |
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| 12:32 | <sundaymorning> | hm, didn't help much, I'm affraid :( |
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| 12:33 | <bja> | sundaymorning: ok edit the file /etc/motd.tail and put there your motd which you need to be persistent |
| 12:33 | <sundaymorning> | but there's one line that I can't get rid of |
| 12:33 | <sundaymorning> | doing that |
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| 12:34 | <bja> | sundaymorning: try to look for it on /etc/motd |
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| 12:36 | <sundaymorning> | well /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh updated /etc/motd with uname -snrvm > /var/run/motd I can't get rid of that by editing /etc/motd.tail |
| 12:36 | <sundaymorning> | I got to edit /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh |
| 12:36 | <sundaymorning> | I see no way out |
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| 12:41 | <Samer> | :d |
| 12:41 | <Samer> | hello |
| 12:41 | <amdgoon_> | sundaymorning: http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/ch-tune.en.html has a brief statement in 9.1.1 |
| 12:42 | <amdgoon_> | /etc/default/rcS file can be used to customize boot-time defaults for motd, sulogin, etc. |
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| 12:43 | <Samer> | hello |
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| 12:44 | <sundaymorning> | "The EDITMOTD variable is no longer used." |
| 12:44 | <sundaymorning> | seems that's not longer an option |
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| 12:45 | <amdgoon_> | hmmmm |
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| 12:47 | <sundaymorning> | I guess another option is to change /etc/motd to point somewhere else |
| 12:47 | <amdgoon_> | just curious: are you running lenny? |
| 12:47 | <sundaymorning> | it seems rather strange to me that it points to /var/run/motd. It seems to be some new debian policy, but it looks very awkward to me |
| 12:47 | <sundaymorning> | yes |
| 12:48 | <sney> | I'm sure it makes a alot of sense and is extensively documented ...somewhere. |
| 12:48 | <sney> | whenever I see a weird policy change I search the mailing list archives |
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| 13:03 | <debianite> | Hi, any of you running java6-plugin on Squeeze amd64? |
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| 13:04 | <babilen> | !anyone |
| 13:04 | <dpkg> | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
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| 13:11 | <jhutchins_lt> | babilen: I'm not sure I agree with that policy. |
| 13:11 | <debianite> | ok then, java6-plugin ins't working in squeeze amd64, any idias why? |
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| 13:12 | <luislyx> | hi |
| 13:12 | <luislyx> | anybody do raid with debian |
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| 13:12 | <debianite> | java6-plugin ins't working in squeeze amd64, any idias why? |
| 13:12 | <themill> | debianite: "not working" in what way? |
| 13:13 | <karme> | luislyx: yes |
| 13:13 | <debianite> | themill: inside icewasel |
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| 13:13 | <themill> | debianite: I still might have some chance of knowing what you're asking about. Please try to be more vague if possible. |
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| 13:14 | <themill> | !java ipv6 |
| 13:14 | <dpkg> | As of netbase 4.38, net.ipv6.bindv6only=1 is set, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/10/msg00541.html. This currently breaks networking in java, see http://bugs.debian.org/560044 for solutions. In short, sed -i 's/net.ipv6.bindv6only = 1/net.ipv6.bindv6only = 0/' /etc/sysctl.d/bindv6only.conf ; invoke-rc.d procps restart. |
| 13:14 | <luislyx> | raid in debian |
| 13:14 | * | themill takes a wild stab in the dark based on zero useful information |
| 13:14 | <kmap> | themill: Sarcasm isn't easily undersyood, esp. by non-native English speakers. |
| 13:14 | <kmap> | ;-) |
| 13:14 | <debianite> | themill: no need to be sarcastic, java apps dont work on icewasel |
| 13:14 | <luislyx> | how setup raid in debian |
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| 13:15 | <karme> | luislyx: select in in the installer |
| 13:15 | <karme> | ~s/in in/it in/ |
| 13:15 | <luislyx> | i have server with six disk |
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| 13:16 | <luislyx> | how i have install debian |
| 13:16 | <debianite> | kmap: I'm not a native english speaker but I get sarcasm and arrogance when I see it |
| 13:16 | <bja> | !en |
| 13:16 | <dpkg> | The language of #debian is English. We will do our best to help you regardless of your level of English but you might be more comfortable asking for help in your own language. Ask me about your language code for more information, for example /msg dpkg br ; /msg dpkg pt ; /msg dpkg es ; /msg dpkg fr ; /msg dpkg de |
| 13:16 | <karme> | luislyx: software raid or hardware raid? |
| 13:16 | <luislyx> | hardaware raid |
| 13:17 | <adb> | !fakeraid |
| 13:17 | <dpkg> | [fakeraid][fakeraid] a term used for controller cards that advertise RAID functionality that is NOT supported by a hardware chip for parity. Most of these have only a BIOS ... if you use them with Debian it is suggested that you do not set a RAID in the BIOS and don't use dmraid, just use regular software RAID (ask me about <md>). See <sata faq>. |
| 13:17 | <luislyx> | waht is difference |
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| 13:18 | <bja> | luislyx: hw raid is done through "special hardware" and software raid emulates this hardware behaviour |
| 13:18 | <bja> | installing and configuring is done in very different ways |
| 13:18 | <luislyx> | example |
| 13:18 | <themill> | debianite: "does anyone use" followed by "it doesn't work" has still not provided us with anything useful to help you. You've been around in #debian long enough to know that we need information to be able to help you and that we shouldn't need to ask basic questions like "what's the error message" or "in what way doesn't it work". |
| 13:18 | <luislyx> | configure by hardware and the configuration this for software? |
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| 13:19 | <Shulo> | HOla |
| 13:19 | <Shulo> | HOla |
| 13:19 | <Shulo> | Hola |
| 13:19 | <bja> | !es |
| 13:19 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 13:19 | <luislyx> | how a raid 5 with six disk and install debian and i have setup raid tools for configure the raid |
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| 13:24 | <slonbg> | hi. i'm using etch install with 2.6.8-3 kernel. sources-list points to etch repositories. i did apt-get update. now i want to install ntp and ntp-date. when i run apt-get install ntpdate, among other things it asks to remove the kernel-image-2.6.8-3, case-config and initrd-tools. this looks very odd, as it will basically remove the running kernel. how do i fix this (install ntp, but not... |
| 13:24 | <slonbg> | ...remove the kernel)? |
| 13:25 | <babilen> | Why do you install etch? |
| 13:25 | <slonbg> | babilen - its and old install, running for years. it runs my db, and works ok. i just want to solve the time sync issue |
| 13:25 | <slonbg> | babilen - there's no reason to upgrade |
| 13:26 | <babilen> | slonbg: You know that security support for etch ended on the 15th? |
| 13:26 | <themill> | slonbg: there actually is a reason to upgrade as etch security support has now finished. In the meantime, the output of your apt-get run would be handy. |
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| 13:27 | <slonbg> | babilen, this is internal server, used only for deployment testing of our apps. it works ok, no security risks (at least external). I'm pasting the output ... |
| 13:27 | <babilen> | thanks |
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| 13:30 | <slonbg> | babilen: http://pastebin.ca/1798747 |
| 13:30 | <slonbg> | ops |
| 13:30 | <slonbg> | btw, 4.0 is etch - right? |
| 13:30 | <slonbg> | thats what i have in debian-version |
| 13:31 | <babilen> | yes |
| 13:31 | <slonbg> | ok, i'm pasting the sources-list as well |
| 13:32 | <babilen> | and 'apt-cache policy' |
| 13:32 | <amdgoon_> | slonbg: I can see why you are concerned. |
| 13:33 | <amdgoon_> | you don't have another newer kernel installed by chance? |
| 13:33 | <themill> | slonbg: the fact that you're running a sarge kernel with etch can't help, it has to be said. |
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| 13:33 | <babilen> | ,versions kernel-image |
| 13:33 | <judd> | Sorry, no package named 'kernel-image' was found. |
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| 13:33 | <slonbg> | hmmm, how this could happen ... |
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| 13:33 | <babilen> | ok - I think etch kernel was .18, wasn't it? |
| 13:33 | <themill> | slonbg: the fact that you're running a sarge kernel with etch can't help, it has to be said. |
| 13:34 | <amdgoon_> | is 2.6.18 installed? |
| 13:34 | <babilen> | yes: 2.6.18+6etch3 |
| 13:34 | <babilen> | !initrd |
| 13:34 | <dpkg> | [initrd][initrd] Initial ramdisk, or god's way of punishing you for using a pre-built kernel image... and you WILL HAVE TO INCLUDE AN INITRD STATEMENT IN YOUR BOOTLOADER (hint, hint). Typically if you can't find your root filesystem, this is your problem, see <can't mount root>. A great system for those who understand modules or need/want root in LVM and/or md RAID. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initrd . See also <initramfs>, <kp mantra>. |
| 13:35 | <slonbg> | i posted apt-cache policy and dpkg -l | grep kernel-im |
| 13:35 | <babilen> | When was initrd deprecated exactly? |
| 13:35 | <themill> | it's linux-image-* not kernel-image-* in etch |
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| 13:37 | <slonbg> | i have only linux-image-headers dor 2.6.18 installed. real mess. so, someone (maybe me:) ) has done what? how do i get out of this situation? |
| 13:37 | <themill> | Installing the linux-image-686 package should drag in the current kernel for you |
| 13:37 | <babilen> | I would install a recent linux-image (for etch-n-half) and reboot |
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| 13:38 | <themill> | 131 other packages want upgrading there too... lots of updates not installed. Quite possibly not even finished sarge->etch |
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| 13:40 | <slonbg> | what if i change the repo to sarge and try just use ntp from there? i dont want to mess with this server right now, as i'll need to stop people from working. |
| 13:40 | <slonbg> | i gues it would not hurt if i try |
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| 13:41 | <babilen> | It will probably not work. |
| 13:41 | <babilen> | Is this an important server? |
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| 13:41 | <ike> | jwpo |
| 13:41 | <ike> | fom |
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| 13:41 | <slonbg> | testing db. just that the time ofset become big, and confuses the testers |
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| 13:42 | <babilen> | slonbg: You should upgrade all packages and install a recent kernel. You'll have to reboot for that .. |
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| 13:43 | <slonbg> | i guess i can manually fix it for this current moment, and upgrade/fix later. is there a way to check if this is really a partial update from sarge to etch. and, will just dist-upgrade solve the problem - at least to upgrade properly to etch? |
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| 13:43 | <babilen> | If you can't do that right now, forget about ntp and wait. |
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| 13:44 | <babilen> | slonbg: Paste the output of 'apt-get -s dist-upgrade' |
| 13:44 | <bremner> | I'm thinking about buying a dell poweredge 2970 with "PERC 6/l" hardware raid and Broadcom 5708 NIC. Aside from needing firmware for the NIC during the install, any horror stories? The wiki entry looks reasonable hopeful. Unfortunately (or not?) its Dell or nothing. |
| 13:45 | <slonbg> | babilen: done |
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| 13:46 | <jhutchins_lt> | bremner: Do they sell that one with Linux? |
| 13:46 | <babilen> | slonbg: Where? |
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| 13:46 | <Titan8990> | bremner, my 2750 runs great, i didn't have that NIC though |
| 13:46 | <slonbg> | http://pastebin.ca/1798772 |
| 13:46 | <babilen> | Which version of libc6 do you have installed? |
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| 13:47 | <Titan8990> | bremner, not sure baout the 2970, but linux was officially supported for 2750 (might have just been red hat however) |
| 13:47 | <slonbg> | babilen: libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22sa |
| 13:48 | <babilen> | slonbg: That server is half-way between sarge and etch. You *really* need to complete sarge->etch and etch->lenny |
| 13:48 | <babilen> | slonbg: But at least sarge->etch |
| 13:49 | <slonbg> | its done just by dist-upgrade right, as far as the sources-list points to etch? |
| 13:49 | <slonbg> | is there a way to "pin" (not-upgarde) mysql while doing this? |
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| 13:50 | <babilen> | slonbg: Which version of MySQL do you have installed now? |
| 13:50 | <babilen> | And yes, you could try to pin the version ... But hey 4.1 is ancient :-) |
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| 13:50 | <babilen> | !tell slonbg -about pinning |
| 13:51 | <slonbg> | mysql 4.1.11a-4sarge. It serves a legasy (I hate this) app, and I should not break it |
| 13:51 | <babilen> | But *I* would really start to start planning these updates. Your version of Debian is not really supported anymore. |
| 13:52 | <babilen> | slonbg: So you need *exactly* MySQL 4.1.11 ? |
| 13:52 | <slonbg> | I know for sure that 5.0 breaks it ... |
| 13:52 | <babilen> | Becaus your legacy application fail horribly with any other (4.1.*) version? |
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| 13:52 | <slonbg> | i'm not sure. but it will be too late if i upgrade :) |
| 13:53 | <babilen> | I guess that is some horribly maintined in-house application and nothing you should file a bug against? |
| 13:53 | <babilen> | ok - upgrade at least to etch. |
| 13:53 | <slonbg> | ok, on prod i have 4.1.13, and it works, so this is the most i know |
| 13:53 | <babilen> | but given that security support ended for etch, you should consider upgrading to lenny too. |
| 13:54 | <amdgoon_> | slonbg: maybe you can clone the drive without taking it down, if you have netcat on there, then experiment? |
| 13:54 | <babilen> | And you *will* have to upgrade to MySQL 5.* anyway :-) |
| 13:54 | <babilen> | slonbg: And you can always install a deprecated version of MySQL locally and run that |
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| 13:55 | <slonbg> | yeah guys, i know. if i had 6 hands ... :). anyway, thanks for the help. at least i know the situation better now. and have to just figure out when i'll have time to mess with this. i'll propose pure reinstall witn new ver of debian, and old ver of mysql. |
| 13:56 | <slonbg> | thanks again |
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| 13:56 | <amdgoon_> | lol |
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| 13:56 | <amdgoon_> | goog luck slonbg |
| 13:57 | <amdgoon_> | good |
| 13:57 | <slonbg> | ty :) |
| 13:57 | <babilen> | slonbg: It is not really a surprise given that etch has been released in 2007 |
| 13:57 | <babilen> | good luck :-) |
| 13:57 | <noobinhere> | is there a recommended method to list the installed packages and output the listing to a file? |
| 13:57 | <babilen> | noobinhere: Whatfor? |
| 13:57 | <slonbg> | noobinhere, i usually use dpkg -l >myfile |
| 13:58 | <babilen> | slonbg: That includes more information that just the package names |
| 13:58 | <babilen> | !installed packages |
| 13:58 | <dpkg> | To list installed packages, dpkg -l |awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}'; or aptitude search -F '%p' '~i'; or ask me about <aptitude clone> <debian clone> |
| 13:58 | <babilen> | noobinhere: What do you need this list for? |
| 13:59 | <slonbg> | i'm too early in my development to use awk :) |
| 13:59 | <amdgoon_> | there is a --get-selections option for dpkg |
| 13:59 | <noobinhere> | babilen, i'm trying to install sid using debootstrap and i wanted to compare it with a squeeze install |
| 14:00 | <babilen> | noobinhere: compare what exactly? |
| 14:00 | <babilen> | installed package names? |
| 14:00 | <noobinhere> | yup |
| 14:00 | <babilen> | automatically installed packages and manually installed ones? |
| 14:00 | <babilen> | noobinhere: Use the command above to get the names. |
| 14:01 | <bremner> | jhutchins_lt: in priciple, but not in my "contract" at $WORK |
| 14:01 | <bremner> | oh, wait. You can order with Suse or RedHat |
| 14:02 | <bremner> | or Solaris, if you are insane :) |
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| 14:04 | <macramole> | hi, i'm having trouble booting a sarge fresh install.. can anyone help me ? |
| 14:05 | <macramole> | it has some trouble with acpi but if turn it off it can't boot either way |
| 14:07 | <babilen> | sarge? |
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| 14:07 | <cesurasean> | for the love of god, it would be wonderful if i could get dovecot to function properly. connection successfully, but unable to get any emails delivered. |
| 14:07 | <macramole> | well |
| 14:08 | <macramole> | i'm not sure is sarge sorry.. I've just downloaded the netinstall at the debian webpage |
| 14:08 | <zulu> | hi I have a pb with my nfs mount, owner in a folder have the same uid on the two machine but on the client, I see owner as 4294967294 |
| 14:08 | <macramole> | i thought sarge was the stable one |
| 14:08 | <zulu> | (I use the nfs-user-daemon |
| 14:08 | <babilen> | macramole: no, lenny is the stable one. Sarge was released in 2005 :) |
| 14:08 | <macramole> | haha sorry i used to use that one back in 2005 :S |
| 14:09 | <babilen> | macramole: could you provide some details about the issues you run into? |
| 14:09 | <babilen> | cesurasean: #dovecot @ irc.freenode.net might help as well |
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| 14:09 | <macramole> | babilen, grubs appear, i select the kernel which came with the installation and it freeze quite quickly... if i choose the single mode i can see its freeze when its initializing acpi or something |
| 14:10 | <cesurasean> | babilen, they aren't very helpful. i was hoping some people in here could give me a hint. |
| 14:10 | <babilen> | cesurasean: Have a look at the log files - you might find some errors there |
| 14:10 | <cesurasean> | i have tailed the log files for days, even with verbose turned on. |
| 14:10 | <macramole> | babilen, im on a ubuntu live cd right now.. i vim menu.lst and add acpi=off.. but its freeze too.. when something like TIMER appear |
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| 14:11 | <macramole> | babilen, maybe i should used amd64 debian but i thought i was going to have some trouble with it |
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| 14:12 | <babilen> | shouldn't make a difference. What is your hw? |
| 14:12 | <macramole> | babilen, whats hw sorry ? |
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| 14:13 | <babilen> | hardware ;-) |
| 14:14 | <macramole> | babilen, um :P i'm using a packard bell notebook with an amd 64 bits processor |
| 14:14 | <babilen> | something like laptop model |
| 14:14 | <babilen> | which one exactly? |
| 14:14 | <babilen> | I am not sure what might cause that error. I would google for installation reports for your hardware platform. |
| 14:15 | <mezzor> | Hej people, could anyone suggest a graphical tool similar to filelight (i.e. for visualizing disk usage), but without all the KDE dependencies? |
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| 14:15 | <babilen> | You say that Ubuntu LiveCD works perfectly on that notebook? |
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| 14:15 | <macramole> | babilen, let me check it out |
| 14:15 | <macramole> | babilen, HERC0 |
| 14:15 | <babilen> | macramole: You had any problems during the installation? Is this the first reboot after the installation? |
| 14:16 | <macramole> | babilen, yes its working perfect |
| 14:16 | <macramole> | babilen, first reboot |
| 14:16 | <macramole> | babilen, no problems during graphic installation |
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| 14:17 | <Thu> | Hello |
| 14:17 | <Thu> | Hola |
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| 14:18 | <macramole> | babilen, im searching a webpage with my notebook specs |
| 14:18 | <noobinhere> | babilen, dpkg is not quite clear. <aptitude clone> method gave less results than <debian clone> method. no i didn't tested them on the 2nd machine. do you think that they both will give the same result in the end? |
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| 14:19 | <noobinhere> | or to to say it different, even if <aptitude clone> method gives less results than <debian clone>, considering the dependencies & all, will the final result be the same no mather which method i use? |
| 14:19 | <babilen> | macramole: How new is that notebook? (I could not find any information about HERC0) |
| 14:19 | <macramole> | babilen, http://support.packardbell.com/uk/item/index.php?sn=114939650134&g=1400 |
| 14:19 | <macramole> | babilen, i bought it brand new last year |
| 14:21 | <babilen> | and The Ubuntu live cd is working without a problem? |
| 14:21 | <macramole> | babilen, no problems at all, even my soundcard is working which i though it wouldnt |
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| 14:21 | <babilen> | ok - You might want to install Debian with a newer kernel |
| 14:21 | <babilen> | !kmuto |
| 14:21 | <dpkg> | For Debian Lenny installers with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ . The <bnx2> and <bnx2x> firmware files for Linux 2.6.32 are included in 0116 images. |
| 14:21 | <babilen> | and see if you run into the same problems |
| 14:22 | <macramole> | the one with my installation isn't the last one ? i burned today |
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| 14:23 | <macramole> | its the 2.6.26-2-686 |
| 14:24 | <babilen> | noobinhere: didn't you say that you just want to compare the installed package names? |
| 14:24 | <babilen> | macramole: There are newer kernel than 2.6.26 - It's just that 2.6.26 is the kernel version shipped with stable |
| 14:25 | <macramole> | babilen, ok, i can put a new kernell chrooting from my live cd, can't I ? |
| 14:25 | <babilen> | sure |
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| 14:25 | <babilen> | install the one from backports |
| 14:25 | <babilen> | !tell macramole -about bpo |
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| 14:26 | <macramole> | babilen, alright i will do that... one last question, should i try amd64 or should i stick to 686 ? |
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| 14:26 | <babilen> | up to you :-) |
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| 14:27 | <macramole> | babilen, ok i will try 686 and in the future ill try amd64.. my non working debian system has downloaded 32 bits apps any way |
| 14:27 | <babilen> | you could install an amd64 kernel and keep your 32bit userland if you want to |
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| 14:28 | <macramole> | babilen, well, i will put both and see if that works.. |
| 14:28 | <babilen> | good luck |
| 14:28 | <macramole> | babilen, thank you very much ! i hope i can switch back to linux ! |
| 14:29 | <babilen> | I hope so too - come back here or to #debian @ irc.freenode.net if you can't get rid of the problem |
| 14:29 | <babilen> | (more people over @ freenode) |
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| 14:47 | <rise_up> | its so boooring |
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| 14:50 | <noobinhere> | babilen, not just to compare. the scope is to get a sid install as close to squeeze, but the output of the listing method was different that's why i asked. |
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| 14:51 | <rise_up> | anyohne have tagged? |
| 14:52 | <babilen> | noobinhere: That's why I asked you what you need the output for |
| 14:52 | <Waxhead> | For some reason UBUNTU software center is now on my desktop and gnome depends on it. I am fully aware that I am running testing but what is Ubuntu stuff doing in the debian repository?! |
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| 14:53 | <noobinhere> | babilen, hehe, i thought i said why. |
| 14:53 | <babilen> | noobinhere: I would use the aptitude clone method, as this differentiates between automatically installed packages and manually (explicitly) installed ones |
| 14:54 | <babilen> | must have missed that - or misunderstood you :-\ |
| 14:54 | <rise_up> | i dnt like this |
| 14:54 | <babilen> | rise_up: Do you have a Debian related question? |
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| 14:56 | <noobinhere> | babilen, no worries. i still don't understand what is the difference between the methods.at least i'm not sure. hehe |
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| 14:57 | <noobinhere> | aren't the packages installed during install marked as automatically installed? i've used the testing netinstall |
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| 14:57 | <babilen> | no - automatically installed packages are those packages that are installed as dependencies (or recommends) or packages you want to install |
| 14:58 | <babilen> | They will also be deleted whenever you remove the package that pulled them in |
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| 15:02 | <jhutchins_lt> | bremner: The reason I ask is because if Dell does sell it with Linux - or even with no OS - it's usually a good sign that the hardware's well supported. If they only sell it with Windows it's iffy. (Besides which, why pay for Windows?). |
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| 15:03 | <bremner> | jhutchins_lt: good point in general, although maybe in this case less convincing than an entry on wiki.debian.org |
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| 15:04 | <cobra-the-joker> | Hey Guys .... i have apache installed and working ..... but when i open iceweasel .... it doesnt open .php files ...instead it asks for download |
| 15:04 | <petemc> | machines with windows are often cheaper due to the crap software they can preinstall |
| 15:04 | <petemc> | cobra-the-joker: did you install |
| 15:04 | <petemc> | php |
| 15:05 | <cobra-the-joker> | petemc , its working in epiphany |
| 15:05 | <petemc> | oh, thats odd |
| 15:05 | <jhutchins_lt> | cobra-the-joker: You have not set the propper handler for PHP, or have not restarted the server. |
| 15:06 | <cobra-the-joker> | jhutchins_lt , as i told you ...the server is working in epiphany browser .... but the problem in iceweasel !!! |
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| 15:07 | <jhutchins_lt> | cobra-the-joker: Well, good luck with that. PHP happens on the server. |
| 15:07 | <cobra-the-joker> | jhutchins_lt , i cant open .php files in iceweasel :( |
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| 15:08 | <jhutchins_lt> | Of course you can't. |
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| 15:08 | <cobra-the-joker> | ofcourse ?!?! |
| 15:08 | <jhutchins_lt> | php doesn't open in browsers, it runs on the server. |
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| 15:09 | <cobra-the-joker> | jhutchins_lt , i meant the .php file on the localhost |
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| 15:09 | <jhutchins_lt> | cobra-the-joker: php runs on the server and generates HTML, which is sent to the browser. |
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| 15:10 | <jhutchins_lt> | Browsers don't reneder PHP, servers do. |
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| 15:10 | <Titan8990> | interpret |
| 15:10 | <jhutchins_lt> | Titan8990: More properly yes. |
| 15:11 | <cobra-the-joker> | jhutchins_lt , i didnt tell you that i am interpretting anything in the browser .... i just cant view .php files in my localhost in iceweasel |
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| 15:12 | <cobra-the-joker> | when i am about to open any .php file .... it attempts to download |
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| 15:12 | <Titan8990> | cobra-the-joker, he was trying to explain to you how it actually works, which it seems you didn't pick up on very well |
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| 15:12 | <Titan8990> | cobra-the-joker, that is because your webserver is failing to interpret it |
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| 15:13 | <Titan8990> | !php wants me to download still |
| 15:13 | <dpkg> | Carefully read and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/php*-common/README.Debian.gz and <install php>; make sure you reloaded apache, cleared your browser cache and restarted your browser. Also verify that it's still a problem outside of your browser using telnet, netcat, wget, GET, curl, etc as the browser caching the download is often a problem. Also have a look at http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/PHPDownload (Apache 1.x). |
| 15:13 | <cobra-the-joker> | Titan8990 , the server is fine ...epiphany works |
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| 15:13 | <Titan8990> | cobra-the-joker, clear your browser cache, it does cause some issues if its not working -> try it -> fix it -> try it again |
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| 15:14 | <jhutchins_lt> | Titan8990: I don't know if he's trying to read the PHP code, or if he expects it to render something from a local PHP file. |
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| 15:15 | <jhutchins_lt> | cobra-the-joker: iceweasel/firefox don't know how to display php code. |
| 15:15 | <Titan8990> | jhutchins_lt, he expects it to be rendered, and we had a specific factoid for him :) |
| 15:15 | <Titan8990> | jhutchins_lt, "!php wants me to download still" |
| 15:15 | <jhutchins_lt> | Titan8990: Yeah, but he said it was a local file. |
| 15:16 | <Titan8990> | im pretty sure he just means that the server and client are on the same box |
| 15:16 | <jhutchins_lt> | cobra-the-joker: How does epiphany display it? As text? |
| 15:16 | <cobra-the-joker> | jhutchins_lt , it displays the output on epiphany |
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| 15:16 | <cobra-the-joker> | Titan8990 , and its working after clearing the cache |
| 15:17 | <jhutchins_lt> | Titan8990: If you try to open a local file of unknown type on a browser, it will ask if you want to download/save it. |
| 15:17 | <Titan8990> | jhutchins_lt, right |
| 15:17 | <jhutchins_lt> | Perhaps epiphany has a php interpreter. |
| 15:17 | <cobra-the-joker> | jhutchins_lt , i meant in the localhost |
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| 15:18 | <Titan8990> | jhutchins_lt, i have seen the problem before. example: your setting up apache but forget to install libapache-php5 |
| 15:18 | <Titan8990> | jhutchins_lt, you try to view it, it doesn't render, so you install php5 module and reload the apache server. the browser still will not accept that it works until the browser cache is cleared |
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| 15:20 | <jhutchins_lt> | Titan8990: Familiar with that. |
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| 15:20 | <jhutchins_lt> | Doesn't seem to be what he's doing. |
| 15:20 | <Titan8990> | jhutchins_lt, does to me... and he said that clearing the cache fixed it |
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| 15:25 | <jhutchins_lt> | Too many pronouns. |
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| 15:38 | <macramole> | asd |
| 15:39 | <macramole> | babilen: my debian is working thanks :) |
| 15:39 | <babilen> | great |
| 15:39 | <babilen> | \o/ |
| 15:39 | <macramole> | babilen: im using a 486 kernel |
| 15:39 | <babilen> | huh? |
| 15:39 | <rybi_olej> | hi, my machine is Debian Lenny, I just wanted to know whether I can use Python 3 or not. |
| 15:40 | <rybi_olej> | or at least can I install? |
| 15:40 | <macramole> | babilen: 2.6.30-486 |
| 15:40 | <babilen> | rybi_olej: download it from python.org, compile it yourself, install to /usr/local and everything should be fine |
| 15:40 | <babilen> | macramole: the -686 did not work? |
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| 15:40 | <rybi_olej> | so, is that easy? |
| 15:40 | <macramole> | babilen: didn't try it.. the amd64 didn't work |
| 15:41 | <macramole> | babilen: later on ican try the 686, i thought it was the same |
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| 15:41 | <babilen> | macramole: I would try the -686 in due course |
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| 15:41 | <babilen> | macramole: anyway - great :) enjoy it |
| 15:41 | <cobra-the-joker> | HEy guys ... is there is any program for making movable pictures |
| 15:41 | <babilen> | rybi_olej: I don't think it's that hard. |
| 15:41 | <rybi_olej> | @babilen, Just compile and install it, is that all? |
| 15:42 | <rybi_olej> | @babilen thank you |
| 15:42 | <babilen> | rybi_olej: You will need to install a couple of -dev packages and build-essential to get all the modules, but it's not hard. Just follow the INSTALL in the python tarball |
| 15:42 | <macramole> | babilen: ok thanks again! bye |
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| 15:42 | <babilen> | rybi_olej: What do you need python3 for? |
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| 15:42 | <rybi_olej> | @babilen, I need it for learning |
| 15:43 | <babilen> | you want to start learning python now? |
| 15:43 | <rybi_olej> | @babilen, yes |
| 15:43 | <Titan8990> | babilen, many don't include a INSTALL file... they assume you know distutils already |
| 15:43 | <babilen> | Titan8990: not for python itself |
| 15:44 | <Titan8990> | babilen, i ran into that with quite a few python modules i was installing the other day |
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| 15:44 | <Titan8990> | babilen, right, python modules, installed with distutils |
| 15:44 | <Titan8990> | babilen, they just assume you know to `python setup.py install` |
| 15:44 | <babilen> | rybi_olej: 2.X will be with us for quite some time. You might want to consider learning 2.6/2.7 too |
| 15:44 | <meglaw> | is there a way to get the output from sensors (lmsensors console), configure a max temp alarm and get that to mail me somehow or maybee type it out on irc |
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| 15:44 | <babilen> | Titan8990: I know ;-) |
| 15:45 | <rybi_olej> | @babilen, I'm just reading a book that says, with their book, it need pyhon 3 |
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| 15:46 | <babilen> | rybi_olej: alright - but note that there are very few libraries that support py3 yet and #python does not support it |
| 15:46 | <HANNAH> | hola! |
| 15:46 | <noobinhere> | babilen, thanks. |
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| 15:46 | <babilen> | rybi_olej: Apart from that it is a great python version and I would use it whenever I could :-D |
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| 15:47 | <zumbi> | hi! someone knows if I can run debian-installer locally? like executing an binary |
| 15:48 | <babilen> | rybi_olej: But just use it if you want to. You should be able to compile it. If you run into problems ask here agains, ok? |
| 15:48 | <zumbi> | i usually use TFTP, CD or other external devices to run d-i |
| 15:48 | <rybi_olej> | @babilen, yeah! :) thank you babilen, I will use current version ahead with that book, if really need python 3, I will skip that lessons or exercises and |
| 15:48 | <Titan8990> | zumbi, you can use deboostrap for installing in a chroot, if thats what your after |
| 15:48 | <rybi_olej> | @babilen, aha, ok |
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| 15:49 | <zumbi> | Titan8990: that is what i have been doing, but I was wondering if I could use d-i instead |
| 15:49 | <babilen> | rybi_olej: That won't work out - There are a lot of differences between 2.X and 3.X (print "hello world" vs print("hello world") |
| 15:49 | <Titan8990> | zumbi, don't think so |
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| 15:49 | <zumbi> | that's a pity |
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| 15:49 | <rybi_olej> | @babilen, really! :O |
| 15:49 | <babilen> | rybi_olej: If the book uses py3 you'll have to use py3 as well - But it shouldn't be that hard to install yourself. |
| 15:50 | <babilen> | rybi_olej: yes |
| 15:50 | <rybi_olej> | @babilen, well, ok then |
| 15:50 | <rybi_olej> | I will install py3 :) |
| 15:50 | <babilen> | rybi_olej: Just try it - If you run into problem -> come back |
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| 15:50 | <rybi_olej> | thanks a lot :) |
| 15:51 | <rybi_olej> | @babilen, bye for now and have a good time :) |
| 15:51 | <babilen> | you too |
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| 15:51 | <babilen> | have fun with python - i would still recommend to learn 2.X |
| 15:51 | <rybi_olej> | yeah .. |
| 15:52 | <rybi_olej> | I have some try out experience with 2.X |
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| 15:52 | <rybi_olej> | @babilen, especially 2.5 and 2.6 |
| 15:53 | <rybi_olej> | there wasn't problem |
| 15:53 | <babilen> | but if you just do it for fun, learn py3. The only problem is that a lot of libraries do yet work with py3, which means that a bunch of programs do not run with py3 as well. But it's certainly a release that fixes a bunch of things that were annoying with 2.X (unicode for example) |
| 15:54 | <babilen> | ah, do what you want - have fun ;) |
| 15:54 | <rybi_olej> | @babilen, thanks, yeah I will try, let's see what happens :D |
| 15:54 | <rybi_olej> | ok then, bye :) |
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| 15:59 | <peach> | ola |
| 15:59 | <babilen> | peach: welcome |
| 16:00 | <peach> | kien eres? |
| 16:00 | <babilen> | !en |
| 16:00 | <dpkg> | The language of #debian is English. We will do our best to help you regardless of your level of English but you might be more comfortable asking for help in your own language. Ask me about your language code for more information, for example /msg dpkg br ; /msg dpkg pt ; /msg dpkg es ; /msg dpkg fr ; /msg dpkg de |
| 16:00 | <peach> | abla alguien eespañol? |
| 16:00 | <babilen> | !es |
| 16:00 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 16:00 | <peach> | ke? |
| 16:00 | <babilen> | ke! |
| 16:01 | <peach> | aki abla alguien español? |
| 16:01 | <peach> | olaa |
| 16:01 | <babilen> | Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. |
| 16:02 | <babilen> | comprende ^^^^^ ? |
| 16:02 | <peach> | no se donde es |
| 16:02 | <peach> | donde tengo que ir? |
| 16:02 | <babilen> | peach: stop it please |
| 16:02 | <peach> | ok |
| 16:03 | <peach> | for? |
| 16:03 | <babilen> | If you need help, ask in English |
| 16:03 | <babilen> | or go to #debian-es |
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| 16:04 | <peach> | no se ablar muuy bien ingles |
| 16:04 | <peach> | mas o menos |
| 16:04 | <peach> | aunque saco sobresaliente |
| 16:04 | <babilen> | stop it please |
| 16:05 | <peach> | do you ander stand? |
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| 16:05 | <babilen> | there is #debian-es on irc.freenode.net too |
| 16:05 | <babilen> | no, i don't understand |
| 16:05 | <peach> | im sorry |
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| 16:06 | <peach> | im very sorry |
| 16:06 | <babilen> | it's not a problem, but the language of this channel is English. There are #debian-es on this network and on irc.freenode.net too (the freenode one is larger) |
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| 16:07 | <peach> | no,i know |
| 16:08 | <peach> | mmmm |
| 16:08 | <peach> | ........... |
| 16:09 | <peach> | hello |
| 16:10 | <babilen> | peach: do not /msg me (/j #debian-es) |
| 16:10 | <peach> | no i know |
| 16:10 | <babilen> | peach: do *NOT* /msg me (/join #debian-es) |
| 16:10 | <peach> | no know |
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| 16:14 | <peach> | people |
| 16:14 | <peach> | ? |
| 16:14 | <peach> | where are |
| 16:14 | <peach> | ? |
| 16:14 | <peach> | hello |
| 16:14 | <peach> | ? |
| 16:15 | <peach> | help help |
| 16:15 | <babilen> | stop it |
| 16:15 | <amphi> | !es |
| 16:15 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 16:15 | <babilen> | ask a question if you have one |
| 16:15 | <dkr> | weird, his spanish isn't even spanish. i.e. 'ke' instead of 'que'. 'aki' instead of 'aqui'. I suspect a troll |
| 16:15 | <babilen> | probably |
| 16:16 | <dkr> | or maybe that's the spanish version of 'u' instead of 'you'? heh |
| 16:16 | <babilen> | hehe |
| 16:16 | <peach> | whatttttt |
| 16:16 | <peach> | no know |
| 16:16 | <peach> | im very sory |
| 16:16 | <peach> | sorry |
| 16:16 | <peach> | i cryng |
| 16:16 | <weasel> | do |
| 16:16 | <weasel> | not |
| 16:16 | <weasel> | write |
| 16:16 | <weasel> | like |
| 16:16 | <weasel> | this |
| 16:16 | <weasel> | it |
| 16:16 | <weasel> | is |
| 16:16 | <weasel> | annoying. |
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| 16:17 | <meglaw> | o |
| 16:17 | <meglaw> | k |
| 16:19 | <peach> | lo siento pero no se como hacerlo |
| 16:19 | <peach> | sorry |
| 16:19 | <amphi> | /join #debian-es |
| 16:20 | <peach> | but where is? |
| 16:21 | <peach> | de window? |
| 16:21 | <meglaw> | /kb |
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| 16:24 | <babilen> | peach: type '/join #debian-es' |
| 16:25 | <peach> | no sale |
| 16:25 | <jar> | wtf is going on in here |
| 16:25 | <peach> | in internet? |
| 16:25 | <peach> | in google? |
| 16:25 | <jar> | ... |
| 16:26 | <jar> | the place in which i asked the question would be the most obvious answer. |
| 16:27 | <babilen> | anybody know where I can find information about LSB headers for init scripts that are needed for dependency based boot? |
| 16:29 | <cesurasean> | how do you resize a raid? |
| 16:30 | <locklace> | babilen: http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts, surprisingly enough |
| 16:30 | <peach> | mmmmmm |
| 16:30 | <peach> | jooojojojojojoj |
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| 16:31 | <peach> | vedran |
| 16:31 | <locklace> | !ops peach twonking out |
| 16:31 | <dpkg> | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: locklace complains about: peach twonking out |
| 16:31 | <peach> | vedran |
| 16:31 | -!- | mode/#debian [+o weasel] by ChanServ |
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| 16:31 | -!- | mode/#debian [-o weasel] by weasel |
| 16:31 | <cesurasean> | let me better word that. is there a way to shrink a raid 1 array? |
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| 16:32 | <babilen> | locklace: thanks - that document changed a little since the last time i read it. :-D |
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| 16:38 | <Pitxyoki> | Hi |
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| 16:39 | <Pitxyoki> | Does anyone know if it is possible to have scp with the dropbear package at the Debian repos? |
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| 16:44 | <Santa_> | hey whats up |
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| 16:47 | <Ka|m3R> | Hi |
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| 17:02 | <izzyb> | is there a way to install a threads free version of perl in debian lenny |
| 17:03 | <izzyb> | via repositories I mean. I know I could compile my own |
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| 17:28 | <usuario> | k edad teneis? |
| 17:28 | <bja> | !es |
| 17:28 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 17:29 | <bja> | !tel cristina about es |
| 17:29 | <bja> | !tell cristina about es |
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| 17:29 | <cristina> | k? yo no entiendo ingles ok? |
| 17:30 | <jar> | i don't know spanish |
| 17:30 | <jar> | sorry |
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| 17:30 | <cristina> | oh no! |
| 17:31 | <jar> | ho noes |
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| 17:31 | <cristina> | nadie entiende español?? |
| 17:31 | <bja> | cristina en tu cliente dale las siguientes teclas /j #debian-es |
| 17:31 | <cristina> | ok |
| 17:32 | <bja> | Te va a abrir otra ventana ahí puedes hablar en español |
| 17:32 | <cristina> | j #debian-es |
| 17:32 | <cristina> | asi? |
| 17:33 | <bja> | te faltó la diagonal |
| 17:34 | <meglaw> | how do i reload webalizer config? |
| 17:34 | <cristina> | diagonal? |
| 17:34 | <meglaw> | i cant find anything cohherent on google |
| 17:34 | <cristina> | k diagonal? |
| 17:34 | <amphi> | / |
| 17:34 | <cristina> | aaa |
| 17:34 | <cristina> | me entendeis?? |
| 17:34 | <cristina> | avlais español? |
| 17:35 | <bja> | no cristina, aquí no se habla español, solo habemos si acaso unos cuantos |
| 17:35 | <bja> | y por favor pasate a #debian-es |
| 17:36 | <cristina> | pero a donde le doy? |
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| 17:36 | <bja> | en donde estas tecleando |
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| 17:38 | <bja> | cristina: copia y pega lo que esta entre comillas "/j #debian-es" |
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| 17:40 | <cristina> | no me sale na de copiar! |
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| 17:41 | <migue_> | hola |
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| 17:41 | <migue_> | soy nuevo aqui :) |
| 17:42 | <cristina> | ola yo tamben |
| 17:42 | <amphi> | heh |
| 17:42 | <themill> | migue_, cristina: /join #debian-es |
| 17:42 | <noflash> | yes indeed |
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| 17:42 | <bja> | migue_: Si sabes cambiarte de canal cambiate a #debian-es por favor |
| 17:43 | <migue_> | sip gracias |
| 17:43 | * | bja runs away |
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| 17:43 | <cristina> | sk no se cambiarme |
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| 17:45 | <cristina> | stoy ya?? |
| 17:45 | <cristina> | no verda |
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| 17:45 | <themill> | cristina: /server irc.freenode.net ; /join #ubuntu-es |
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| 18:01 | <code> | hola cristina |
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| 18:06 | <bja> | code: she finally left |
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| 18:09 | <fali> | ola |
| 18:09 | <bja> | !br |
| 18:09 | <dpkg> | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 18:10 | <fali> | heloo |
| 18:10 | <code> | br |
| 18:11 | <code> | alguem fala portugues |
| 18:11 | <bja> | !tell code about br |
| 18:11 | <fali> | espain |
| 18:11 | <bja> | !tell code about pt |
| 18:11 | <bja> | !tell code about es |
| 18:11 | <code> | pt-br |
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| 18:14 | <captainkamm> | anyone have any experience getting debian to dualboot on a mac (10.5.1) |
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| 18:15 | <code> | fali.. |
| 18:15 | <sundaymorning> | poor code, all he wanted was a little brazilian love :( |
| 18:16 | <zobel> | captainkamm: yes, install refit |
| 18:16 | <zobel> | captainkamm: and http://wiki.debian.org/MacBook |
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| 18:17 | <captainkamm> | zobel: I've followed the wiki article info for installing on a mac, but grub and lilo both fail to boot |
| 18:17 | <captainkamm> | zobel: usually with a kernel panic message about unable to mount filesystem |
| 18:17 | <zobel> | uh? did you run gptsync? |
| 18:18 | <code> | hello |
| 18:18 | <code> | brasil é tudo de bom |
| 18:18 | <amphi> | !br |
| 18:18 | <dpkg> | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 18:18 | <zobel> | !es |
| 18:18 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 18:19 | <amphi> | zobel: d'oh :) |
| 18:19 | <code> | espanha? |
| 18:19 | <zobel> | amphi: ;) |
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| 18:19 | <bja> | code: /msg dpkg en |
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| 18:20 | <code> | 9'09'09'09'09'09'09'009'09'009'09'09'090' |
| 18:20 | * | themill is assuming that a portuguese-speaking person with a portuguese IP probably wants #debian-pt |
| 18:20 | <captainkamm> | zobel: yep, I ran gptsync and finished the installation from there, getting lilo on /dev/sda3 and all that jazz |
| 18:20 | -!- | mode/#debian [+o zobel] by ChanServ |
| 18:20 | -!- | mode/#debian [+v code] by zobel |
| 18:21 | <bja> | zobel: +v i think he can post to the channel quite nicely |
| 18:21 | <bja> | i believe you ment +q |
| 18:21 | <captainkamm> | zobel: refit recognizes the partition but when I try to boot, it seems like lilo is trying to mount the filesystem on (hd8,2) which obviously doesn't exist |
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| 18:22 | <@zobel> | bja: no, in #debian.de this is the indicator that the guy talking didn't follow instructions that he was told |
| 18:22 | <sundaymorning> | nah, zobel is assuring him he can keep on talking |
| 18:23 | <@zobel> | hd8,2? |
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| 18:23 | <@zobel> | captainkamm: lenny, squeeze, sid? |
| 18:23 | <bja> | zobel: Nice to know, but since #debian.de banned tor its been quite some time i haven't been there |
| 18:23 | <themill> | zobel: +v being documented where? |
| 18:24 | <@zobel> | themill: +v is a pseudo-mode used in #debian.de |
| 18:24 | <themill> | hmmm |
| 18:25 | <bashar> | Hello there |
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| 18:26 | <captainkamm> | zobel: lenny. And my interpretation of the error messages might not be the best. I usually stay in userland, not near the kernel, but it looks like a couple of init scripts are failing before the kernel panics |
| 18:26 | <bashar> | i nedd help |
| 18:26 | <bashar> | i need help |
| 18:26 | <bja> | !tell bashar about ask |
| 18:26 | <sundaymorning> | +v means voice. People who are going to be banned are given voice so they can explain their case just before the inevitable ban. The procedure has its roots on the witchcraft trials. |
| 18:27 | <bja> | !beere sundaymorning |
| 18:27 | <locklace> | !beer sundaymorning |
| 18:27 | * | dpkg pulls out an exquisite Bornem Tripple for sundaymorning |
| 18:27 | <bja> | !beer sundaymorning |
| 18:27 | * | dpkg pulls out an exquisite Bornem Tripple for sundaymorning |
| 18:27 | <@zobel> | captainkamm: can you reboot into the d-i cd, and use rescure instead of install? |
| 18:27 | <Thulsa_Doom> | hey folks, i'm a current crunchbang (ubuntu) user looking to get a distro that's a little more barebones which i can customize to my liking... i'm looking over the debian website and i'm wondering if that'd be the way to go... i want something that is very light on pre-installed applications and able to have openbox and tint2 installed without conflicting with anything |
| 18:28 | <@zobel> | captainkamm: and then fix the grub/lilo settings? |
| 18:28 | <bja> | Thulsa_Doom: You came to Debian's support irc channel, Can't you gues the answear anyone will give you ? |
| 18:28 | <bashar> | i have a question abt kernel update |
| 18:29 | <sundaymorning> | hehe :) |
| 18:29 | <bja> | bashar: shoot |
| 18:29 | <bashar> | this my first time on IRC channels |
| 18:29 | <bashar> | can i ask then ? |
| 18:29 | <@zobel> | bashar: don't ask to ask |
| 18:29 | <@zobel> | just do |
| 18:30 | <bashar> | Aha |
| 18:30 | <@zobel> | if someone knows the answer, he/she will speak up |
| 18:30 | <bashar> | i want to compile new kernel for Debian Lenny |
| 18:30 | <bashar> | the current version is 2.6.26 |
| 18:30 | <bja> | judd: kernels |
| 18:31 | <bashar> | i wanna compile a 2.6.32 raw kernel |
| 18:31 | <judd> | Available kernel versions are: sid: 2.6.32-2-686 (2.6.32-8); squeeze: 2.6.32-trunk-686 (2.6.32-5); lenny-backports: 2.6.30-bpo.2-686 (2.6.30-8~bpo50+2); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-21lenny3); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch1); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch1) |
| 18:31 | <@zobel> | !tell bashar about backports |
| 18:31 | <+code> | #exploitdb |
| 18:31 | <@zobel> | !tell bashar about backports.org |
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| 18:33 | <captainkamm> | zobel: how do you boot it into rescue? when I boot I get the refit screen and picking the CD dumps me to the debian splash screen, the one with the install/graphical install options |
| 18:33 | <Thulsa_Doom> | bja: well, obviously you folks are going to support debian.. my question is if debian is actually what *I* am looking for. like you don't download kubuntu if you want a super streamlined minimalist desktop environemtn |
| 18:33 | <sundaymorning> | you can compile a new kernel and make grub point to it. It should load just fine. A few programs may misbehave on a new kernel, though. So keeping the old one around is a good idea. |
| 18:34 | <@zobel> | captainkamm: instead of "install or install64" you usually can enter "rescue" there |
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| 18:38 | <bja> | Thulsa_Doom: afaik you can do a minimal initial install and from that point you can add whatever *you* see fit, you are the one who will use the machine :) |
| 18:38 | <captainkamm> | zobel: I don't get a prompt at all (installing from DVD if that makes a difference) just the visual menu with install, graphical install and (I think) advanced options |
| 18:39 | <@zobel> | ah. press tab IIRC, then you get the "normal" prompt |
| 18:39 | <@zobel> | there you can say "rescue" |
| 18:40 | <Thulsa_Doom> | bja: that's what i was hoping for. so many linuc distros i see are just overlaoded with abunch of stuff that i have no actual use in using, and going about replacing everything makes me wonder why i don't just find somethign abrebones to start with and build up from htere |
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| 18:40 | <@zobel> | don't want to reboot my macbok now, otherwise i would loose my conversation with you now. |
| 18:41 | <captainkamm> | zobel: I assume it's going to give me sh? And where should I look for the lilo config files? |
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| 18:41 | <@zobel> | /target/etc/lilo.conf? |
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| 18:45 | <captainkamm> | zobel: thanks |
| 18:46 | <captainkamm> | zobel: I'll give it a whirl and we'll see how it goes |
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| 19:21 | <bja> | judd: selfdestroy |
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| 19:21 | <themill> | !spank bja |
| 19:21 | * | dpkg bends bja over her knee and delivers a mighty *THWACK* |
| 19:21 | <themill> | bad bja! |
| 19:22 | <bja> | !beer themill |
| 19:22 | * | dpkg deftly decants a fine Spaten Optimator for themill |
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| 19:23 | <captainkamm> | can anyone explain the error message I got when trying to boot using lilo |
| 19:23 | <abrotman> | which is? |
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| 19:24 | <captainkamm> | kernel panic — not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(8,3) |
| 19:24 | <gkahla> | anyone know of a good curses app for managing wifi networks on debian? |
| 19:24 | <abrotman> | that's not a lilo error usually |
| 19:24 | <abrotman> | captainkamm: did you compile your own kernel ? |
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| 19:26 | <captainkamm> | abrotman: I'm using the current lenny distro, I'm just trying to get it up and running on a macbook. Installation completes successfully, but this is the error I get when I try to boot from refit. (And afaik, I followed the directions of the wiki page step for step) |
| 19:27 | * | abrotman knows nothing of refit |
| 19:27 | <bja> | captainkamm: i guess zobel is the local mac expert around |
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| 19:28 | <abrotman> | captainkamm: but is it your own kernel ? |
| 19:28 | <captainkamm> | bja: yeah, I was hoping he might still be around |
| 19:28 | <@zobel> | hd8,2 sounds terrible wrong |
| 19:29 | <bja> | abrotman: captainkamm is having a troublesome fresh install on a macbook |
| 19:29 | <@zobel> | ah... 8.3 sounds like sda3 |
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| 19:30 | <@zobel> | which is not that wrong. |
| 19:30 | <@zobel> | kernel tells you about major,minor numbers. |
| 19:30 | -!- | mode/#debian [-o zobel] by zobel |
| 19:30 | <zobel> | captainkamm: are you sure your / is on sda3? |
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| 19:36 | <captainkamm> | zobel: yes. And when I looked at /etc/lilo.conf in the rescue mode shell I made sure that was where it was pointed (I don't have a /boot partition, just another small swap space after the debian partition) |
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| 19:37 | <krislappy> | hmm, how come X -version is showing v 11.0 while Xorg is showing 11.7 ? |
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| 19:55 | <gkahla> | krislappy- what does your Xorg.log tell you about the version? |
| 19:55 | <bja> | Is the babelfish module on dpkg working? |
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| 20:30 | <puyover> | can somebody help me with TTYs? |
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| 20:31 | <puyover> | can somebody help me with TTYs? |
| 20:32 | <adb> | ask |
| 20:32 | <gsimmons> | Pitxyoki: Yes, you need to install the suggested openssh-client package. |
| 20:33 | <puyover> | I can't change to any TTY with alt+ctr+F# |
| 20:33 | <puyover> | the screen keep frozen |
| 20:33 | <puyover> | but if I press alt-ctr-F7 I can recovery the control |
| 20:34 | <Pitxyoki> | gsimmons, thanks. |
| 20:34 | <Pitxyoki> | That's what I did. |
| 20:34 | <Pitxyoki> | I was trying to find a ligher package to get scp. |
| 20:35 | <puyover> | any help? |
| 20:36 | <adb> | reboot help? |
| 20:36 | <puyover> | no... |
| 20:37 | <puyover> | I installed debian testing today and the only problem I have is that... |
| 20:38 | <adb> | how you installed without working tty ? |
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| 20:39 | <cesurasean> | im having problems booting because of grub for some reason. my server just keeps rebooting though, so where do i find these logs? |
| 20:40 | <adb> | /msg dpkg bootlog |
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| 20:42 | <cesurasean> | adb, that seems to be outdated, and does not offer anything to me. |
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| 20:44 | <adb> | outdated what ? |
| 20:45 | <adb> | !bootlog |
| 20:45 | <dpkg> | it has been said that bootlogd is disabled by default. Change /etc/default/bootlogd to "Yes" to populate /var/log/boot . For the reason behind the default, see http://bugs.debian.org/213028 (fixed since sysvinit 2.86.ds1-11). Not a command (as opposed to dmesg). |
| 20:45 | <adb> | cesurasean, time to learn to message the bot |
| 20:46 | <abrotman> | though i'm not sure how it's supposed to help him ... |
| 20:46 | <abrotman> | cesurasean: it's rebooting when? |
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| 20:46 | <cesurasean> | it says loading grub |
| 20:46 | <cesurasean> | then reboots |
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| 20:46 | <adb> | .. |
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| 20:47 | <abrotman> | adb: will the bootlog help him? |
| 20:47 | <adb> | no |
| 20:47 | <abrotman> | cesurasean: what if you choose a different kernel ? |
| 20:47 | <cesurasean> | im not able to choose anything. |
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| 20:47 | <cesurasean> | it just reboots after saying loading grub.. |
| 20:48 | <abrotman> | have you tried a grub floppy/cd ? |
| 20:48 | <abrotman> | did it used to work ? |
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| 20:49 | <cesurasean> | yes |
| 20:49 | <cesurasean> | and it boots fine with grub super disk |
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| 20:49 | <cesurasean> | ive reinstalled grub-pc, still not working. |
| 20:49 | <cesurasean> | it was working fine until i took my raid apart. now, it's not. |
| 20:50 | <cesurasean> | i see the error, sometimes, but not long enough to write anything down before it reboots. |
| 20:50 | <cesurasean> | seems to be related to the hard disk & grub. |
| 20:52 | <raylu> | dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc, perhaps |
| 20:53 | <raylu> | also, the error might be logged somewhere in /var/log/ |
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| 21:01 | <cesurasean> | i've ran dpkg-reconfigure many times with no success. i don't see anything in /var/log, and ive tried booting into another kernel with no success when pressing keys, or commenting out kernels. |
| 21:02 | <cesurasean> | the problem seems to be related to grub-pc. |
| 21:02 | <cesurasean> | and maybe the fact that i had a mdadm raid config. |
| 21:03 | <raylu> | is this grub or grub2, btw? |
| 21:03 | <cesurasean> | grub2 |
| 21:03 | <cesurasean> | i've removed the grub directory using remove --purge, everything. |
| 21:04 | <cesurasean> | it seems to be the way grub lists the hard drives to be loaded. |
| 21:04 | <cesurasean> | perhaps UUID error? |
| 21:04 | <mikegrb> | UUID IS DEVIL |
| 21:05 | <cesurasean> | thanks for pointing that out, mikegrb |
| 21:05 | <cesurasean> | can i use grub on squeeze to see if i can get the older grub to boot? |
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| 21:06 | <raylu> | grub-legacy, i think |
| 21:06 | <cesurasean> | what i really don't understand is the grub super loader boots it fine, but does say something about error 6? |
| 21:07 | * | simonrvn wonders how UUIDs can be some imaginary enemy thing |
| 21:07 | <Guest268> | They're the devil because one wrong character blows everything up and they're not at all intuitive. |
| 21:08 | <raylu> | yes, but it makes more sense to mount devices by uuid than by letter and number assigned in increasing order |
| 21:09 | <Guest268> | For the bootloader, yes. For the person controlling it, not so much. |
| 21:09 | <raylu> | for me. i just copy/paste uuids |
| 21:09 | <raylu> | i don't see how you can be off by a letter |
| 21:10 | <cesurasean> | what about changing superblock? i think i changed something when running a disk check. |
| 21:10 | <Guest268> | Most everyone does, but if you don't KNOW what it is, then naming /dev/sda, /dev/sda1, etc. is the only route. |
| 21:11 | <Guest268> | But anyway, I'm sorry, we're trying to solve a problem. |
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| 21:12 | <raylu> | you can only know what it is at the time you assign it. if you plug in a new drive, that letter may change. if you mess with your partition table, that number might change |
| 21:12 | <raylu> | but the uuid is for the filesystem, which is what you actually want to mount. |
| 21:13 | <Guest268> | Granted, I guess it's a matter of perspective. |
| 21:14 | <raylu> | cesurasean: did grub-legacy work out? |
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| 21:18 | <cesurasean> | i have to go in the other room with the machine to get it to boot up again with the cd. sorry. |
| 21:18 | <cesurasean> | i will try to find out what grub is named as. |
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| 21:31 | <d3co> | !hi |
| 21:31 | <dpkg> | hello, d3co |
| 21:31 | <d3co> | !hi |
| 21:31 | <d3co> | =) |
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| 21:43 | <Megaf> | !Hi |
| 21:43 | <dpkg> | hello, megaf |
| 21:43 | <Megaf> | :S |
| 21:43 | <Megaf> | I'm afraid of you, Mr bot |
| 21:43 | <jar> | lol |
| 21:43 | <james__> | Quiet tonight. |
| 21:43 | <jar> | it's always quiet here until someone starts a flame war |
| 21:43 | <jar> | ill start |
| 21:43 | <jar> | ONLY LITTLE GIRLS USE EMACS |
| 21:44 | <jar> | that oughta do it |
| 21:44 | <james__> | And people with carpal tunnel. |
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| 21:44 | <jar> | james__: well if they didnt before using emacs they sure as hell do now |
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| 21:44 | <james__> | Haha, so true. |
| 21:45 | <james__> | Oh wait, I'm supposed to be disagreeing here... |
| 21:45 | <james__> | ;) |
| 21:45 | <Megaf> | [00:44:43][00:44:43] <jar> ONLY LITTLE GIRLS USE EMACS, |
| 21:45 | <jar> | :D |
| 21:45 | <Megaf> | indeed |
| 21:45 | <jar> | hehe |
| 21:45 | <adb> | !ot |
| 21:45 | <dpkg> | Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic (i.e. Debian support); imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. #debian-offtopic is the place for longer off-topic discussions. |
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| 21:46 | <jar> | adb: how is text editors off topic? |
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| 21:46 | <Megaf> | now, that could start a flame war!! |
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| 21:46 | <Megaf> | i dont agree with that |
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| 21:46 | <jar> | text editor discussion should be considered extremely on topic |
| 21:46 | <jar> | o_o |
| 21:46 | <jar> | especially emacs and vi |
| 21:46 | <adb> | !editors war |
| 21:47 | <jar> | lol |
| 21:47 | <jar> | I use geany these days anyways. |
| 21:47 | <jar> | I just wish it had smart indent. |
| 21:47 | <jar> | :( |
| 21:47 | * | jar sobs |
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| 21:47 | <james__> | vim or mg for me, if I'm feeling adventurous. |
| 21:47 | <dshuang> | 大家新年好！ |
| 21:47 | <adb> | jar, #d is for support users not editors |
| 21:47 | <bashar> | failed to allocate mem resource blah blah |
| 21:47 | <jar> | james__: mg? |
| 21:47 | <Megaf> | nano is the best editor! |
| 21:48 | <jar> | Oh! |
| 21:48 | <jar> | Micro GnuEmacs |
| 21:48 | <jar> | neat |
| 21:48 | <adb> | !enter |
| 21:48 | <dpkg> | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 21:48 | <jar> | adb: You sure do like that bot. |
| 21:48 | <dshuang> | Hi |
| 21:48 | <Megaf> | adb: are you a bot? I'm sure you are, arent you? |
| 21:48 | <jar> | hey, dshuang |
| 21:48 | <jar> | haha |
| 21:48 | <adb> | jar, stop it , w'll be banned |
| 21:48 | <jar> | Megaf: Seems that way doesn't it? |
| 21:49 | <Megaf> | it isnt!!! |
| 21:49 | <jar> | adb: You're kind of a jerk. |
| 21:49 | <Megaf> | OMG! |
| 21:49 | <jar> | Just saying. |
| 21:49 | <Megaf> | nah |
| 21:49 | <Megaf> | its a bot |
| 21:49 | <Megaf> | i can prove that |
| 21:49 | <Megaf> | of topic |
| 21:49 | <Megaf> | is |
| 21:49 | <Megaf> | off |
| 21:49 | <Megaf> | topic |
| 21:49 | <Megaf> | kick? |
| 21:50 | <bashar> | failed to initialise device(-5) on Lenny |
| 21:50 | <Megaf> | right, its not a bot |
| 21:50 | <bashar> | any help ? |
| 21:50 | <Megaf> | not here |
| 21:50 | <Megaf> | joking... |
| 21:50 | <dshuang> | My computer has two network card, normally I use the wireless, how can i login the ARM developing board through xterm? thanks |
| 21:51 | <adb> | dshuang, try #emdebian |
| 21:51 | <dshuang> | I connected the ARM developing board and my computer through a network cable. |
| 21:52 | <dshuang> | ? |
| 21:52 | <bashar> | during system boot (Lenny) i got the mesg failed to initialise the device (-5) ,wht is that ? thanks |
| 21:53 | <bashar> | ? |
| 21:54 | <Megaf> | theres no one here |
| 21:54 | <Megaf> | not me |
| 21:54 | <Megaf> | not now |
| 21:54 | <bashar> | wht abt my issue |
| 21:54 | <bashar> | any one could help |
| 21:55 | -!- | bashar is now known as Gbash |
| 21:55 | <Megaf> | Gbash: is your system booting up and working? |
| 21:55 | <Gbash> | yes it is |
| 21:55 | <Megaf> | so, dont mind about that |
| 21:55 | <Megaf> | :S |
| 21:56 | <Gbash> | jus i wanna know wht it could be |
| 21:56 | <Megaf> | thats somehting to do with webcam i guess |
| 21:56 | <Gbash> | my webcam doesn't work |
| 21:56 | <Gbash> | as well as the mic jak |
| 21:57 | <Megaf> | yep |
| 21:57 | <Gbash> | and other sound jacks |
| 21:57 | <Megaf> | exactey |
| 21:57 | <Megaf> | oops |
| 21:57 | <Gbash> | wht i should do to get them working |
| 21:57 | <Megaf> | exactly |
| 21:57 | <dshuang> | Gbash you need drive your webcam up firstly. |
| 21:58 | <Megaf> | Gbash: aptitude seach uvc |
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| 21:58 | <Gbash> | ho |
| 21:58 | <Gbash> | p luvcview - USB Video Class grabber |
| 21:58 | <Gbash> | p uvccapture - USB UVC Video Class snapshot software |
| 21:59 | <Gbash> | i got the above result |
| 21:59 | <Gbash> | by hitting aptitude search uvc |
| 21:59 | <Megaf> | i dont know what can you do now. |
| 22:00 | <Gbash> | shall i install one of them |
| 22:00 | <Gbash> | ? ? |
| 22:00 | <Megaf> | i started to use Linux about an hour ago Gbash |
| 22:00 | <Gbash> | :) |
| 22:00 | <Gbash> | where are u from ? |
| 22:00 | <dshuang> | When i install debian, I can not find driver in debian DVD, but finally I find all the drivers |
| 22:00 | <Megaf> | nah, im kidding :) |
| 22:01 | <Megaf> | Gbash: you shall not install any of them |
| 22:01 | <Megaf> | :) |
| 22:01 | <Megaf> | well |
| 22:01 | <Megaf> | maybe |
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| 22:01 | <Megaf> | luvcview and cheese |
| 22:02 | <Gbash> | i have chees installed already |
| 22:02 | <gsimmons> | Gbash: Provide your dmesg output at a pastebin, there are other lines from the uvcvideo driver prior to that message. The USB-ID of your webcam device would also be useful (lsusb). |
| 22:02 | <Gbash> | but the Cam doesn't work |
| 22:02 | <gsimmons> | dpkg: tell Gbash -about paste |
| 22:03 | <Megaf> | Gbash: give us you lspci and lsusb at a pastebin as well |
| 22:03 | <Gbash> | i didn't got how to past the result |
| 22:04 | <Megaf> | Gbash: what about select everything with your mouse and then hit ctrl + insert? |
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| 22:09 | <Gbash> | my lspci |
| 22:09 | <Gbash> | http://pastebin.ca/1799398 |
| 22:10 | <Megaf> | Gbash: thats nice, now your lsusb |
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| 22:11 | <Gbash> | http://pastebin.ca/1799402 |
| 22:12 | <Gbash> | that was my lsusb |
| 22:12 | <Gbash> | now wht ? |
| 22:12 | <Gbash> | ? |
| 22:12 | <Megaf> | is your "a" working? |
| 22:13 | <Megaf> | <Gbash> now wht ? |
| 22:13 | <Gbash> | wht do u mean by "a"? |
| 22:13 | <Gbash> | Aha :) |
| 22:13 | <Megaf> | [00:56:46][00:56:46] <Gbash> jus i wanna know wht it could be |
| 22:13 | <Gbash> | So,now what ? :) |
| 22:13 | <Megaf> | see? |
| 22:13 | <Megaf> | theres no a in what |
| 22:13 | <Megaf> | :S |
| 22:13 | <Megaf> | I'm afraid of ya! |
| 22:13 | <Gbash> | is that denied? |
| 22:14 | <Gbash> | ya |
| 22:14 | <Gbash> | wht abtcha |
| 22:14 | <Megaf> | [00:43:49][00:43:49] <dpkg> hello, megaf |
| 22:14 | <Megaf> | [00:43:51][00:43:51] <Megaf> :S |
| 22:14 | <Megaf> | [00:44:12][00:44:12] <Megaf> I'm afraid of you, Mr bot |
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| 22:14 | <Megaf> | I'm afraid of all of you |
| 22:14 | * | Megaf runs far far away |
| 22:14 | <Gbash> | what abt ma question then |
| 22:15 | <Gbash> | :) |
| 22:16 | <Gbash> | ? |
| 22:16 | <Gbash> | http://pastebin.ca/1799405 |
| 22:16 | <Gbash> | that's was |
| 22:16 | <Gbash> | dmesg |
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| 22:16 | <Gbash> | command |
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| 22:17 | <gsimmons> | Gbash: You are required to use a later uvcvideo version (available in later kernel images) and supply firmware from userspace. |
| 22:17 | <gsimmons> | dpkg: r5u87x |
| 22:17 | <dpkg> | [r5u87x][r5u87x] Ricoh R5U87x UVC-compliant webcam chipsets are supported by the <uvcvideo> driver (WDM devices not supported). Most devices require firmware/microcode to be loaded; r5u87x userspace tools are not yet available in Debian (ITP in bug #563081). Supported devices: http://bitbucket.org/ahixon/r5u87x/src/881dbd07a263/docs/model_matrix.txt . For support of other chipsets, ask me about <webcam>. |
| 22:18 | <raylu> | i'm currently using "set spell spelllang=en_us" to check spelling in latex. i want to get rid of the grammar checking, though. how do i do this? |
| 22:19 | <Gbash> | So,if i compiled a newer version of the kernel |
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| 22:19 | <Gbash> | is there a chance to solve the issue |
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| 22:21 | <Gbash> | ???????? |
| 22:21 | <gsimmons> | Gbash: You'll also need the userspace tools and firmware as mentioned above. Try using a 2.6.30 kernel image package from lenny-backports (/msg dpkg bpo) first. |
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| 22:23 | <Gbash> | actually, i've installed the kernel image 2.6.30 |
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| 22:23 | <Gbash> | but whenever i boot the system on it |
| 22:23 | <Gbash> | KDE doesn't work |
| 22:23 | <Gbash> | even Gnome |
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| 22:24 | <Gbash> | i got the mesge "couldn't connect to X server" |
| 22:24 | <raylu> | by "in latex," i meant in vim |
| 22:24 | <Gbash> | so i can't boot the system on 2.6.30 big mem kernel |
| 22:25 | <Gbash> | can i compile a raw version of kernel from kernel.org like 2.6.32???????? |
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| 22:26 | <Gbash> | ????? |
| 22:27 | <Gbash> | على راسي والله الشباب |
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| 22:27 | <edwinrea> | holaaaaaaaaaaaa |
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| 22:28 | <Gbash> | ????? |
| 22:28 | <Gbash> | Heeeeeeelp |
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| 22:30 | <edwinrea> | what up |
| 22:30 | <Gbash> | ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟ |
| 22:30 | <edwinrea> | spanish? |
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| 22:31 | <cesurasean> | grub-legacy does not seem to work either. i can see the error, and it looks like something with fs in it, error code 6 is what super grub tells me. |
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| 22:31 | <cesurasean> | anyone? |
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| 22:34 | <cesurasean> | root@server1:~# grub |
| 22:34 | <cesurasean> | -bash: /usr/sbin/grub: No such file or directory |
| 22:34 | <cesurasean> | that's no good. |
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| 22:34 | <cesurasean> | grub-pc is already the newest version. |
| 22:34 | <Gbash> | hiiiiiiiiiiii |
| 22:35 | <gsimmons> | Gbash: Actually, the uvcvideo driver in 2.6.26 may be fine for your device. Just go ahead and compile/install the userspace tools, then reload the uvcvideo driver. |
| 22:35 | <Gbash> | how i can do that ? |
| 22:35 | <Gbash> | how to install or compile thos tools |
| 22:35 | <Gbash> | ? |
| 22:36 | <Gbash> | and thanks in advanced |
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| 22:39 | <cesurasean> | Installation finished. No error reported. - grub-pc reinstall. |
| 22:40 | <cesurasean> | how do i update my path? for some reason the old grub is inside it. |
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| 22:44 | <gsimmons> | Gbash: Install the automake, build-essential, libglib2.0-dev, libusb-dev and mercurial packages; execute "hg clone http://bitbucket.org/ahixon/r5u87x/" as a regular user, then read r5u87x/README for further instructions. |
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| 22:52 | <gsimmons> | Gbash: No private messages, please. |
| 22:53 | <Gbash> | Okay |
| 22:53 | <Gbash> | sorry |
| 22:53 | <Gbash> | <Gbash> i've done |
| 22:53 | <Gbash> | [05:52][05:52] <Gbash> wht you've told me about |
| 22:53 | <Gbash> | [05:52][05:52] <Gbash> but i executed the command hg clone "http://bitbucket.org/ahixon/r5u87x/" as root |
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| 22:56 | <Gbash> | ??????? |
| 22:59 | <Gbash> | heeeelp |
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| 22:59 | <abrotman> | Gbash: do you have an error to go with that command ? |
| 23:01 | <Gbash> | no |
| 23:01 | <Gbash> | but the camera still doesn't work |
| 23:01 | <Gbash> | :( |
| 23:01 | <Gbash> | i've executed that command |
| 23:01 | <abrotman> | did you READ the README ? |
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| 23:04 | <Gbash> | where i can find the read me ? |
| 23:04 | <goodger> | it's in a file called README |
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| 23:12 | <Gbash> | what is the path of the read me file |
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| 23:20 | <Gbash> | ??????????? |
| 23:21 | <goodger> | !!!!!!!!!! |
| 23:21 | <goodger> | ! |
| 23:22 | <Gbash> | i found it |
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| 23:27 | <fcestrada> | Hi!, I'm affected by the xserver-xorg-video-intel (#569314) bug, I want to try the following workaround: "adding i915.modeset=0 to the kernel (2.6.32-trunk) line in grub" but I don't know what's the file to modify, anyone can help me please? |
| 23:27 | <fcestrada> | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c) |
| 23:27 | <fcestrada> | Or anyone with the same video card know another workaround? |
| 23:27 | <fcestrada> | s/what's the file/where's the file |
| 23:29 | <fcestrada> | Hi!, I'm affected by the xserver-xorg-video-intel (#569314) bug, I want to try the following workaround: "adding i915.modeset=0 to the kernel (2.6.32-trunk) line in grub" but I don't know where's the file to modify, anyone can help me please? |
| 23:30 | <fcestrada> | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c) Anyone with the same video card know another workaround? |
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| 23:37 | <fcestrada> | I found it: "/boot/config-2.6.32-trunk-amd64" Thanks anyway =) |
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| 23:40 | <chealer> | fcestrada: you don't need to edit a file. you can test it by appending to the kernel line in grub. press e to edit a boot choice when you're in grub. then select the kernel line. |
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| 23:42 | <fcestrada> | chealer: Thanks, I'll reboot to test it =) |
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