| --- | Log | opened Sat Dec 12 00:00:06 2009 |
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| 00:03 | <user01> | any idea how to fix an issue where when my thinkpad automatically switches off screen after awhile, the audio in flash in iceweasel is all choppy, and i have to restart iceweasel? |
| 00:03 | <newsense> | very creative nic |
| 00:03 | <user01> | newsense? |
| 00:04 | <newsense> | yes it's very fitting for me |
| 00:04 | <user01> | sounds like a pun, puns are the lowest form of humor |
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| 00:05 | <dr|z3d> | user01: screen -> screensaver/powermanagement. |
| 00:05 | <user01> | dr|z3d, thanks |
| 00:05 | <dr|z3d> | Flash is a flash issue. Try niceing your browser. |
| 00:06 | <user01> | dr|z3d, really it could be a priority issue? |
| 00:06 | <newsense> | that doesn't sound like a reasonable cause |
| 00:07 | <dr|z3d> | user01: No, it's a Flash issue. Raising the priority might help, though. |
| 00:08 | <user01> | dr|z3d, to about -20? |
| 00:08 | <user01> | ;) |
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| 00:08 | <dr|z3d> | user01: Experiment. |
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| 00:09 | <user01> | so wait for the screen to go off with iceweasel running, go into a command prompt, and up it incrementally until it stops skipping? |
| 00:11 | <dr|z3d> | Sure, try that. No guarantee it'll work, but give it a shot. |
| 00:13 | <newsense> | what video card are you using, might be a better driver for it |
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| 00:14 | <newsense> | if it's onboard maybe allocate more ram to the gpu and see what options you have for drivers |
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| 00:20 | <user01> | dr|z3d, nice can do anything renice can do? |
| 00:22 | <user01> | dr|z3d, i thought nice can change priority of programs already running . . . but thats the def of renice |
| 00:22 | <dr|z3d> | user01: nice runs an app with a given priority, renice changes an already running app's priority. |
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| 00:31 | <bithive1> | anyone here familiar with nexenta? their irc chan is dead |
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| 00:32 | <dr|z3d> | bithive1: Not supported here, sorry. |
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| 00:50 | <wat> | what do i need to install to get the configure script of "./configure" fame |
| 00:52 | <hdon> | wat: ok, so |
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| 00:52 | <hdon> | wat: most source code distributions of software come with a configure script |
| 00:52 | <wat> | huh |
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| 00:52 | <wat> | oh i see |
| 00:53 | <wat> | well this package did not |
| 00:53 | <hdon> | wat: when you type ./ that means "run a program in my current directory" sort of |
| 00:53 | <wat> | yes i know |
| 00:53 | <wat> | oh yeah |
| 00:53 | <wat> | of course doh |
| 00:53 | <hdon> | wat: you want autoconf |
| 00:53 | <hdon> | wat: type apt-cache search autoconf |
| 00:53 | <wat> | hmmm so then how is this supposed to compile |
| 00:53 | <hdon> | wat: and see what your options are |
| 00:53 | <hdon> | wat: once you have autoconf, the command that will generate "configure" is called "aclocal" |
| 00:53 | <hdon> | wat: but first type: ls *configure* |
| 00:54 | <hdon> | wat: if there are no results like configure.in or whatever, then you need to be going in another direction for building your software |
| 00:55 | <wat> | hmmm |
| 00:55 | <wat> | is there any easier way to get the sound cards included with ati chipset motherboards to work |
| 00:56 | <wat> | this is supposed to be some sort of driver for it although the thing im reading doesnt call it a kernel module |
| 00:57 | <wat> | know anything about "hda-verb" |
| 00:57 | <wat> | apparently this is the thing i need to use to get sound working on this ati/amd motherboar |
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| 00:58 | <jmarsden> | hdon: The more general way to get a configure script would be using autoreconf, not just aclocal ... |
| 00:58 | <hdon> | jmarsden: huh, can you elaborate any more than that? |
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| 00:59 | <hdon> | wat: there is a debian tool for assisting in the building of kernel modules |
| 01:00 | <hdon> | wat: package is called module-assistant |
| 01:00 | <hdon> | wat: IIRC that program has a listing of modules it can build for you very easily. maybe the one you want is in there |
| 01:00 | <jmarsden> | hdon: man autoreconf :) |
| 01:00 | <hdon> | jmarsden: k |
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| 01:00 | <hdon> | OH |
| 01:00 | <hdon> | jmarsden: handy ;) |
| 01:01 | <jmarsden> | hdon: Yes. if you need lots of details about autotools as a whole, see http://sources.redhat.com/autobook/ |
| 01:02 | <wat> | it compiled |
| 01:02 | <hdon> | i've flipped through |
| 01:02 | <wat> | with just make |
| 01:02 | <hdon> | lol |
| 01:02 | <wat> | after installing what you said |
| 01:02 | <hdon> | well |
| 01:02 | <hdon> | i doubt installing it |
| 01:02 | <hdon> | had any effect |
| 01:03 | <hdon> | if typing "make" built it |
| 01:03 | <hdon> | unless you ran aclocal or whatever |
| 01:03 | <wat> | it didn't compile it at first |
| 01:03 | <wat> | now it did, heh i don't know |
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| 01:03 | <wat> | i don't know what it is, it apparently isn't a module it's just some kind of weird program that runs like a driver somehow from the commandline |
| 01:04 | <wat> | i'm just trying to follow some instructions off some forum which are a little sketchy |
| 01:04 | <hdon> | wat: ew |
| 01:04 | <wat> | it just says basically "get this thing, do this with it and viola, sound" |
| 01:04 | <wat> | well i don't think this soundcard is supported by debian yet |
| 01:05 | <hdon> | lol |
| 01:05 | <hdon> | do this with it and viola |
| 01:05 | <hdon> | of course you'd have sound |
| 01:05 | <hdon> | it's a musical instrument :P |
| 01:06 | <jmarsden> | wat: Don't follow random forum posts you don't fully understand, you'll probably just make your system worse. |
| 01:06 | <jmarsden> | What sound chip does your "so new Debian doesn't yet support it" sound card use? |
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| 01:08 | <wat> | debian sees it but it doesn't produce sound |
| 01:08 | <wat> | oh i understand the forum it's just very incomplete including instructions such as "go get hda-verb from google" |
| 01:09 | <jmarsden> | For any chance of real help, answer the question... what sound chip is on your very new sound card? |
| 01:09 | <wat> | hda-intel ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) |
| 01:09 | <wat> | well if it's not very new then why is it not supported |
| 01:09 | <kilelme> | if you use new kernel? |
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| 01:10 | <wat> | i don't think it's in the kernel or it would just say "install a new kernel" not get this mysterious "hda-verb" util |
| 01:10 | <wat> | alsconf says it's configured but it doens't make any sounds |
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| 01:12 | <brian> | hh |
| 01:12 | <jmarsden> | A quick Google led me to several posts suggesting using OSS works for that chip when it is on various motherboards... I've not seen that chip on a sound card, though... |
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| 01:14 | <wat> | oh yes it;s onboard sound |
| 01:14 | <jmarsden> | You said: <wat> well i don't think this soundcard is supported by debian yet # "soundcard" ... now it is onboard sound? |
| 01:15 | * | jmarsden gives up. |
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| 01:15 | <wat> | yes because that makes a huge difference |
| 01:16 | <kilelme> | i found hda-verb in this site |
| 01:16 | <kilelme> | ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/tiwai/misc/hda-verb-0.3.tar.gz |
| 01:16 | <wat> | ya i have hda-verb |
| 01:16 | <kilelme> | and some step is here |
| 01:16 | <kilelme> | http://lik.noblogs.org/ |
| 01:16 | <kilelme> | hmm |
| 01:16 | <kilelme> | ^_^ |
| 01:16 | <kilelme> | sorry |
| 01:17 | <wat> | some say to use modprobe some module but that didn't work, some say use oss, that didn't work, hda-verb doesn't seem to have much documentation |
| 01:17 | <wat> | well thanks for checking it out anyways |
| 01:17 | <wat> | the posts that have hda-verb instructions are for a different device in /dev/snd so i don't think it will work after all |
| 01:18 | <kilelme> | are you use Acer Aspire 6935G? |
| 01:19 | <wat> | no |
| 01:20 | <wat> | its an asus m4a78t-e |
| 01:20 | <wat> | motherboard |
| 01:20 | <wat> | but its like an eye exam is that an 8 or a B |
| 01:20 | <wat> | oh well |
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| 02:01 | <vasily> | I have the sony ereader pocket edition. Is there software for that? |
| 02:02 | <vasily> | I mean, something that will access the device from debian. |
| 02:06 | <cahoot> | according to google yes |
| 02:06 | <cahoot> | err - at least from linux |
| 02:07 | <vasily> | yeah, I've heard of an ubuntu one. |
| 02:07 | <vasily> | I was just curious if Debian had it |
| 02:08 | <cahoot> | http://packages.debian.org/sid/text/calibre |
| 02:09 | <vasily> | ah! sorry, I'm a noob. |
| 02:10 | <vasily> | I have no clue how to install sid stuff on lenny. |
| 02:10 | <cahoot> | you don't |
| 02:12 | <vasily> | i've read a little, but am unclear. If I add sid repos to sources.list will apt-get try to upgrade me to sid? |
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| 02:14 | <cahoot> | don't do that |
| 02:14 | <vasily> | yeah, I didn't think it wise. |
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| 02:21 | <Silicium01> | How can I add tun0 device to my remote VPS debian system? |
| 02:21 | <Silicium01> | it's running Lenny |
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| 02:25 | <jdculp> | hey all |
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| 03:11 | <fcs-ubu> | um zu sehen, welche festplatten vorhanden sind (also nicht gemeountet) bzw. per usb angeschlossen sind, gibt es einen shell befehl - kennt den hier jemand ? |
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| 03:15 | <cahoot> | !de |
| 03:15 | <dpkg> | deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
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| 03:18 | <babilen> | fcs-ubu: in related news "mount" |
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| 04:15 | <TGD17> | help |
| 04:15 | <TGD17> | please |
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| 04:17 | <jmarsden> | babilen: No, he wants a command to show available disks that are NOT yet mounted. |
| 04:19 | <jmarsden> | I think you'd have to grep the log files for udev log entries related to disks for that, or something... seems non-trivial, anyway. |
| 04:19 | <babilen> | jmarsden: right. I overlooked that part. :-\ |
| 04:19 | <babilen> | But he's gone anyway ... |
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| 04:34 | <s4br3> | I have just bought a new netbook, with WinXP pre-installed. Is there a free way to repartition it so I can put in Debian for dual boot. Im not the only one to use it, so XP is a must... |
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| 04:35 | <locklace> | !dual boot guide |
| 04:35 | <dpkg> | A guide for setting up dual booting with various combinations of linux, xp and vista can be found at http://apcmag.com/dualboot . The guide covers both windows and linux being installed first on the machine. Also ask me about <fixmbr>. See http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ for an ISO image to help fix up GRUB problems. |
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| 04:37 | <annAMER> | yo |
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| 04:39 | <s4br3> | locklace: thanks. But, it describes how to use Ubuntu and GParted. Is that available during startup even if I want to have KDE later on? |
| 04:41 | <annAMER> | need help searching for dictionaries |
| 04:41 | <s4br3> | annAMER: dictionaries for iceweazel? |
| 04:42 | <annAMER> | just for password cracking need dictionary |
| 04:42 | <annAMER> | one thats decent |
| 04:42 | <annAMER> | know of any links |
| 04:42 | <s4br3> | nope |
| 04:43 | <annAMER> | thxs anyways |
| 04:43 | <annAMER> | anyone else here alive |
| 04:43 | <annAMER> | or just afk |
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| 05:02 | <peej> | if I have a zillion tabs (ok about 50) in iceweasel (lenny 3.0.6-3), my cpu load goes up in the 90% range and my system slows down even though I have plenty of free memory |
| 05:02 | <peej> | line from top: 14538 peej 20 0 223m 119m 21m R 96 2.9 6:49.29 firefox-bin |
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| 05:03 | <peej> | tips? |
| 05:03 | <zeus> | hi all, i've installed lenny on a notebook. It's a cli-only interface. Wich package do i have to install to set the display sleep? |
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| 05:05 | <ananth123> | peej: try google chrome ;-) |
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| 05:06 | <peej> | zeus, you probably have it already, acpi-support-base |
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| 05:07 | <peej> | else mebbe laptop-mode-tools (dunno if that is cli, I'm just looking through apt-cache search power | grep power ) |
| 05:08 | <zeus> | acpi-support-base and laptom-mode-tools was missing. Thank you ! |
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| 05:09 | <peej> | re : firefox grinding slowly, I'm wondering if it is a well known problem for idiots who pretend to use tabs the way I pretend to. |
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| 05:13 | <valdyn> | peej: this is probably shockwave flash |
| 05:13 | <valdyn> | peej: or alternatively but less likely some "fancy" java script |
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| 05:13 | <valdyn> | peej: get an adblocker at least if you dont have one yet |
| 05:14 | <valdyn> | peej: i very much doubt its related to your tab number directly |
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| 05:18 | <peej> | valdyn, I have adblocker. Maybe I've allowed something that sucks up stuff |
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| 05:19 | <peej> | Oh, it's not adblocker, it's noscript |
| 05:19 | <valdyn> | peej: so you could have some flash ad |
| 05:19 | <peej> | ah, and I *do* have adblocker too. |
| 05:20 | <valdyn> | peej: lately im finding myself more and more looking at high cpu load cause by browser and flash... |
| 05:20 | <valdyn> | peej: but thats with 3 windows and 3 tabs in each, not more |
| 05:20 | <peej> | will defaults on adblocker and noscript be enough to avoid the problem? |
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| 05:20 | <valdyn> | peej: i dont know if you have flash ads or youtube running |
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| 05:21 | <peej> | adblocker has nothing for defaults, it seems |
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| 05:21 | <valdyn> | peej: which adblocker are you talking about? |
| 05:21 | <peej> | youtube seemed to mess up firefox so much I eventually picked up clive |
| 05:22 | <valdyn> | quite retarded that html5 video still isnt supported anywhere |
| 05:22 | <ananth123> | peej: which version of ff do u have ? |
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| 05:22 | <peej> | valdyn, it's called "adblock" and shows up in the bottom right of my browser, next to no script. Has a broken underline. |
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| 05:23 | <peej> | ananth123, 3.0.6-3 (on lenny) |
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| 05:24 | <ananth123> | ahhh ok. 3.0 was quite memory hogging. 4.x uses slightly less memory and is a bit faster too. |
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| 05:24 | <ananth123> | windows version of 3.0 runs 2-3x faster than linux version though :( |
| 05:24 | <peej> | valdyn, ah, adblock v.5 d3 * nightly 43 |
| 05:25 | <valdyn> | peej: i dont think it blocks nothing by default. |
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| 05:25 | <ananth123> | peej: another thing you can try is to create a new profile |
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| 05:26 | <peej> | b-b-b-but all my tabs, my precious tabs will go if I do that... |
| 05:27 | <ananth123> | hmmm |
| 05:27 | <locklace> | !hug peej |
| 05:27 | * | dpkg gives peej a hug |
| 05:27 | <peej> | dpkg, botsnack |
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| 05:28 | <ananth123> | peej: how much mem do you have ? |
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| 05:30 | <peej> | I'm interested in isolating the problem but I guess I'm doomed if I try to isolate it with so many tabs. Unless I happen to have an obsessive compulsive disorder where tab examination does it for me. I probably should just junk my tabs or organize them into a bookmark tree. |
| 05:30 | <peej> | ananth123, 4GB, and free -m shows 700MB free as in untouched |
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| 05:47 | <locklace> | !qotd0 |
| 05:47 | <dpkg> | <Slayer_> i am at a screen with tyler@tyler-mac:~$ <Slayer_> i just rebooted <Slayer_> i need to get linux to actually come up |
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| 05:52 | <simonrvn> | *facepalm* |
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| 05:53 | <jmarsden> | echo "LINUX IS NOW OFFICIALLY UP" >>/etc/motd # maybe? :) |
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| 05:55 | <simonrvn> | hehe |
| 05:55 | <simonrvn> | that would help for some people ;) |
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| 06:11 | <sunyq> | hello |
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| 06:12 | <sunyq> | Is anyone here? |
| 06:12 | <sunyq> | My English is poor |
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| 06:14 | <sunyq> | This is my first time to use xchat with others |
| 06:14 | <locklace> | !congratulate sunyq |
| 06:14 | <dpkg> | Nice one sunyq, you did it! |
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| 06:16 | <sunyq> | Thank you |
| 06:16 | <sunyq> | I am from China |
| 06:17 | <sunyq> | and what about you? |
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| 06:19 | <locklace> | do you have a debian question |
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| 06:20 | <sunyq> | Sorry,if I hava |
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| 06:20 | <sunyq> | Sorry,if I have no question,I should leave? |
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| 06:22 | <valdyn> | sunyq: no, but this is a support channel, not a social channel |
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| 06:30 | <capon> | hi all |
| 06:30 | <capon> | can someone help me? |
| 06:30 | <locklace> | !anyone |
| 06:30 | <dpkg> | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 06:31 | <capon> | i am typing on a shell cd Desktop |
| 06:31 | <capon> | but it doesnt work |
| 06:31 | <capon> | i am in root |
| 06:31 | <locklace> | !doesn't work |
| 06:31 | <dpkg> | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>. |
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| 06:32 | <capon> | root@john:-# cd Desktop |
| 06:33 | <capon> | bash: cd: Desktop: No such file or directory |
| 06:33 | <weasel> | so? |
| 06:34 | <capon> | i need it to say root@john:-/Desktop |
| 06:34 | <capon> | i need it to say root@john:-/Desktop# |
| 06:34 | <capon> | how can I do it? |
| 06:35 | <locklace> | capon: what version of debian are you using |
| 06:35 | <capon> | ubuntu 8.10 |
| 06:35 | <locklace> | !ubuntu |
| 06:35 | <dpkg> | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 06:35 | <capon> | well, I'm using Backtrack |
| 06:35 | <locklace> | !backtrack |
| 06:35 | <dpkg> | BackTrack is a Linux distribution based on <Ubuntu> Intrepid (as of BackTrack 4), previously <SLAX>. Derived from merging two penetration-testing distributions: WHAX (formerly WHOPPIX) and Auditor Security Linux. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.remote-exploit.org/backtrack.html #remote-exploit on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on debian>. |
| 06:36 | <capon> | which is based on ubuntu which is based on debian XD |
| 06:36 | <capon> | i think |
| 06:36 | <weasel> | *based* on |
| 06:36 | <weasel> | not == |
| 06:36 | <weasel> | therefore wrong here. |
| 06:36 | <locklace> | go to #remote-exploit on irc.freenode.net |
| 06:36 | <capon> | ok |
| 06:36 | <capon> | thanks anyway ;) |
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| 07:31 | <namektran> | Hello |
| 07:31 | <namektran> | can somebody help me? |
| 07:31 | <locklace-> | !anybody |
| 07:31 | <dpkg> | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 07:31 | <namektran> | i have an external hardisk and i cant mount it |
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| 07:32 | <namektran> | !harddisk |
| 07:33 | <namektran> | ....... |
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| 07:52 | <Kraven> | I have Lenny installed with LUKS encrypted /home and swap within LVM and I want to boot without entering password, so I can mount those partitions using SSH, but /etc/crypttab seems to be not working |
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| 07:53 | <Kraven> | I enter the option noauto and I still am asked for the password at boot time |
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| 08:09 | <Kraven> | I have also already tried to comment out the entry in /etc/crypttab and renamed the file, in both cases the password prompt was shown at boot time |
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| 08:36 | <Kraven> | I set the Environment variable CRYPTDISKS_ENABLE to no in /etc/default/cryptdisks but stil I'm asked for the password at boot time |
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| 08:56 | <user01> | have they set release dates yet for the next debian stable release? sounded like they wanted more regularly schedulde releases |
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| 08:57 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 406] by debhelper |
| 08:57 | <themill> | !wwsr |
| 08:57 | <dpkg> | Squeeze is anticipated to be released in mid 2010 with a <freeze> starting in March 2010. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2009/10/msg00002.html and ask me about <squeeze bet> <squeeze kernel>. |
| 08:58 | <user01> | ok so maybe jan 2011 then |
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| 09:00 | <Nazcafan> | hello |
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| 09:03 | <user01> | im not sure if i will upgrade to squeeze on this laptop . . . the last nvidia driver release for my graphics card was the current stable one, after that they dropped support for it . . . so i would no longer have 3d support and such |
| 09:04 | <user01> | er ati driver |
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| 09:21 | <imganquan> | hi all. how to set the cursor of a tty? |
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| 09:29 | <inkbottle> | Hi, is there a channel for Wacom tablet (debian or linux)? |
| 09:29 | <dr|z3d> | inkbottle: Sure. wacom support is built into the kernel, I think. |
| 09:30 | <inkbottle> | :) |
| 09:30 | <abrotman> | inkbottle: is there a more specific question? |
| 09:30 | <dr|z3d> | At least, there's support available somewhere afaik, if not the kernel. |
| 09:30 | <inkbottle> | abrotman, yes, i intend to buy a "pen and touch" |
| 09:30 | <locklace> | !wacom |
| 09:30 | <dpkg> | [wacom][wacom] 'man 4 wacom'; or /usr/doc/HOWTO/en-html/mini/Wacom-USB-mini-HOWTO.html; They are graphics tablets :), or for debian specific help check out http://www.i3s.unice.fr/~ol/success.html |
| 09:31 | <abrotman> | inkbottle: and .. what about that? |
| 09:32 | <inkbottle> | abrotman, I would like to know if it would work well? |
| 09:32 | <inkbottle> | it is not listed as supported device |
| 09:33 | <inkbottle> | at linuxwacom |
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| 09:52 | <pythonic> | hi, is there some place i can find when a developer's account was activated/disabled? |
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| 09:53 | <pythonic> | the best information i have atm is the keyring changelog |
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| 10:15 | <JMorrison> | hola, alguien que hable español? |
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| 10:15 | <locklace> | !es |
| 10:15 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 10:50 | <Xeross> | Is it possible to install a debian package twice with both different configs ? |
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| 10:50 | <patrikf> | Xeross: what do you actually want to do? |
| 10:51 | <sun> | hi im trying to use audacious2 to listen to a streaming playlist from a radio station but it always crashes... what other lightweight, simple audio players are out there that can play streaming audio? |
| 10:51 | <Xeross> | patrikf: Run 2 instances of powerdns 1 for local dns and 1 for external |
| 10:51 | <Xeross> | patrikf: BOth on a different port and using haproxy for redirecting to correct port |
| 10:51 | <jackyf> | sun: try qmmp |
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| 10:52 | <kimqpham> | Hello |
| 10:52 | <kimqpham> | i need help |
| 10:52 | <kimqpham> | i cant install graphic driver |
| 10:53 | <locklace> | !tell kimqpham about how to ask |
| 10:53 | <kimqpham> | can u help me pl0x |
| 10:53 | <kimqpham> | im new to linux |
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| 10:53 | <locklace> | !u |
| 10:53 | <dpkg> | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 10:53 | <patrikf> | Xeross: you can't install a debian package twice on the same system, nor would that make any sense |
| 10:54 | <Xeross> | patrikf: In my situation it kind of would |
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| 10:54 | <patrikf> | Xeross: you can, of course, write a separate init script for the second invocation. |
| 10:54 | <Xeross> | hmm |
| 10:54 | <Xeross> | Wish powerdns had a way of specifying custom dns for ip address ranges |
| 10:54 | <patrikf> | Xeross: your software might also provide a way to serve different results depending on where the request comes from |
| 10:54 | <Xeross> | patrikf: that's the problem it doesnt |
| 10:54 | <patrikf> | yeah... maybe some other dns server can do that |
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| 10:55 | <kimqpham> | hello |
| 10:55 | <sun> | jackyf THANKS!!!! |
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| 10:55 | <Xeross> | patrikf: I steered clear from bind because it had a lot of security issues, plus pdns has mysql support |
| 10:55 | <kimqpham> | heelp someone |
| 10:55 | <jackyf> | sun: works? :) |
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| 10:56 | <locklace> | !slap kimqpham |
| 10:56 | * | dpkg strikes a resounding *THWAP* across kimqpham's face |
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| 10:57 | <noflash> | !dk |
| 10:57 | <dpkg> | hmm... dk is Hvis du vil tale dansk og få hjælp til debian, skriv /join #linux.dk in your irc client, also the country Denmark |
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| 11:37 | <heiko> | also, hab gerade den Tipp von aynoS probiert und es scheint zu funktionieren, nach X Neustart erscheint kurz das NV-Logo. Was genau ist jetzt denn anders als wenn ich es im smxi mache? |
| 11:37 | <locklace> | !de |
| 11:37 | <dpkg> | deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
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| 12:11 | <locklace> | !qotd0 |
| 12:11 | <dpkg> | <d0ugie> kickin it real on efnet, doing takeovers on #hack manually, typing really fast to mode -o everyone <sussudio> d0ugie: can you stop being a sad wanker? |
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| 12:34 | <greshnik> | hi |
| 12:34 | <greshnik> | =) |
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| 12:34 | <greshnik> | help me please! |
| 12:35 | <locklace> | !smack greshnik |
| 12:35 | <locklace> | !ask |
| 12:35 | * | dpkg smacks greshnik upside the head. |
| 12:35 | <greshnik> | i can not change my keyboard layout in xorg.conf |
| 12:35 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 12:36 | <greshnik> | i use ubuntu 8.04 |
| 12:36 | <greshnik> | Back Track 4 |
| 12:36 | <locklace> | !ubuntu |
| 12:36 | <dpkg> | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 12:36 | <locklace> | oh, not again. |
| 12:36 | <locklace> | !tell greshnik about backtrack |
| 12:36 | <locklace> | go to #remote-exploit on irc.freenode.net |
| 12:37 | <greshnik> | thank you |
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| 14:01 | <BCDN> | Guys and gals: I'm getting this in my dmesg output any ideas? I'm not noticing any issuse with my performance, HDD through put or other wise. |
| 14:01 | <BCDN> | http://pastebin.com/m3f78b9c5 |
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| 14:10 | <BCDN> | http://pastebin.com/m3f78b9c5 |
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| 14:42 | <airikka> | hi! is there any channels dedicated for general questions and help about debian? |
| 14:42 | <dr|z3d> | airikka: Sure. This one. |
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| 14:43 | <PovAddict> | the 'insight' package appears to be broken |
| 14:43 | <dr|z3d> | !ask |
| 14:43 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 14:43 | <PovAddict> | $ insight tests/parsertest |
| 14:43 | <PovAddict> | insight-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libitcl3.2.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 14:44 | <PovAddict> | according to apt-file, libitcl3.2.so.1 doesn't exist in any current package |
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| 14:45 | <joydark> | hello, i am in upgrade purgatory, i am typing this from the debian installer... ssh'd out |
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| 14:46 | <PovAddict> | lol, irc from installer |
| 14:46 | <airikka> | Great, I'll try to explain my problem. I have a mac mini ppc with debian lenny that acts as a router. My problem is that if there are no (or very low) local network traffic, then it can take up to 1 minut before I can access a website. When I look at dmesg on my router it says eth0: Link down; eth0: Link is up at 100 Mbps, full-duplex.; eth0: Pause is disabled... might this be the problem? |
| 14:47 | <joydark> | i have one 60 gig hd, with a 17G xfs partition with the rootfs, 1GB ext3, for the /boot, and 40 gigs for xp. |
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| 14:49 | <chattr> | PovAddict: libitcl3.2.so.1 in lenny: http://packages.debian.org/search?mode=exactfilename&suite=lenny§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=contents&keywords=libitcl3.2.so.1 |
| 14:49 | <PovAddict> | apt-file fails then |
| 14:49 | <joydark> | the xfs/ext3 partitions are in a logical volume group, with the xfs (root) partition being encrypted with luks... when it boots up , it drops me to ash, and i have a feeling hte initramfs doesn't know what to do post-decryption. so i have switched into finnix, decryted and mounted both partitions, and chrooted into them, trying to A. fix the initramfs so that lenny can boot up correctly, and B install grub.. however when i have |
| 14:50 | <PovAddict> | ah no, wait |
| 14:50 | <joydark> | i also have tried passing update-initramfs -k all -u |
| 14:50 | <PovAddict> | I have testing |
| 14:50 | <joydark> | as well as "-c" |
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| 14:50 | <joydark> | -c fails as it says there is already a file there, -u fails as proc is not mounted, |
| 14:51 | <joydark> | here for questions.. |
| 14:51 | <PovAddict> | anyway, is that a sobump without changing the package name? :/ |
| 14:52 | <chattr> | PovAddict: no idea |
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| 14:55 | <joydark> | i have all damned day to wait here.. thanks for the lovely "support" .. just trying to update the initramfs , and install grub so that deb will boot.. |
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| 14:56 | <locklace> | !hurry |
| 14:56 | <dpkg> | Ohhhhh.... Aaaarrrreeee yyyyoooouuuuuuuuu iiiinnnn a huuuuurrrrrrryyyyy? Welllllll... We do not cater to the ["me!me!me! : mine!mine!mine! : now!now!now!now!"] crowd .. so bugger off! Run home crying now ..and tell jo'momma that we spanked you! |
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| 14:57 | <PovAddict> | joydark: if you don't get the support you expect, demand your money back |
| 14:57 | <joydark> | povaddict, i amnot in a hurry... |
| 14:57 | <joydark> | kind of hard to represent debian |
| 14:57 | <joydark> | when ye don't even help yer own. |
| 14:57 | <joydark> | much less anyone else. |
| 14:57 | <PovAddict> | I never had a problem installing |
| 14:57 | <joydark> | great os, shitty community. but that is a diff can of worms |
| 14:57 | <PovAddict> | hence, I have no experience fixing installation problems |
| 14:58 | <PovAddict> | I never used any kind of filesystem encryption either |
| 14:58 | <kmap> | joydark: You're not helping the cause |
| 14:58 | <joydark> | kmap: you don't know what I am doing.nor who I am ;-) |
| 14:58 | <PovAddict> | don't get defensive |
| 14:58 | <joydark> | ;-) |
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| 14:58 | <kmap> | Expecting someone who knows the solution to your problems to be awake at this time AND read this AND help you, else Debian has a shitty community isn't my definition of positive spirit |
| 14:58 | <joydark> | I am not demanding support |
| 14:59 | <PovAddict> | no, you're just whining because you don't get any, *big* difference eh? :) |
| 14:59 | <joydark> | more dissapointed as there is an ideal that the community is supposed to ascrbe to, in practice.. it doesn't happen. |
| 14:59 | <joydark> | but as i said, that is a diff story |
| 14:59 | <joydark> | i am googling for alternative solutions in the meantime |
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| 14:59 | <kmap> | joydark: Anyway, whenever this forum hasn't helped, I've found that the debian-user mailing list has had people come up with good suggestions |
| 14:59 | <kmap> | If you can wait that long, for people to reply, that is |
| 15:00 | <joydark> | lol, that will be funny, hey guys! my new os is debian-installer 5r3 |
| 15:00 | <kmap> | With the added benefit that the discussion is archived, so that others who search can ride on your discussions to solve their problems |
| 15:00 | <joydark> | absolutely |
| 15:01 | <joydark> | unless i try and use openssl_client to send the mail from here, not in a pos. to send an email that is.. as i said, |
| 15:01 | <joydark> | i am now without a mbr, as well as working os. |
| 15:01 | <joydark> | i could go back to finniz.. anyways, this is interesting. |
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| 15:02 | <joydark> | a 2d deb. installation.. embarassing. |
| 15:02 | <mc68040> | joydark: do tried do to a 'mount /proc' |
| 15:03 | <joydark> | ja |
| 15:03 | <joydark> | it mounts "none" |
| 15:03 | <joydark> | as expected |
| 15:03 | <joydark> | sadly. sorry for the frsutration before, venting. |
| 15:04 | <locklace> | i always like it when people put their root filesystem on some eldritch combination of swraid/lvm/cryptfs and then complain that they have problems booting and that troubleshooting is hard |
| 15:05 | <mc68040> | locklace: i never had any problem with root on md/crypt/lvm before |
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| 15:06 | <joydark> | locklace: do you have any solutions? |
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| 15:06 | <tux-oerlinghausen> | Wo, bitte, bin ich jetzt gelandet????????? |
| 15:06 | <locklace> | !de |
| 15:06 | <dpkg> | deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 15:07 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 409] by debhelper |
| 15:07 | <tux-oerlinghausen> | o.k |
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| 15:07 | <mc68040> | locklace: no, i dont know finnix or his environment, i use grml for every disaster recovery, or debian live... |
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| 15:07 | <locklace> | joydark: my standing solution is to make the boot and root filesystems minimal, like they're supposed to be, and put them on primary partitions |
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| 15:08 | <joydark> | primary parts are for windows, |
| 15:08 | <locklace> | joydark: but i also hate initrds |
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| 15:08 | <locklace> | joydark: that's the most absurd statement uttered in this channel this week |
| 15:09 | <locklace> | !win joydark |
| 15:09 | <dpkg> | Congratulations, joydark! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
| 15:09 | <joydark> | logical are for mbr ext3, 1 gig, and deb rootfs, xfs 17 gigs respectively |
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| 15:09 | <joydark> | how is that absurd? |
| 15:10 | <joydark> | first three partitions are xp, |
| 15:10 | <joydark> | then 4 and 5 are linux |
| 15:10 | <airikka> | heh.. the same thing happened again. |
| 15:10 | <joydark> | i apologize, logical parts are 1-4 |
| 15:10 | <joydark> | there was an error in that statement, point. |
| 15:10 | <airikka> | I do not know if you ever got my question of the eth0: Pause is disabled thing... |
| 15:10 | <locklace> | joydark: or was that just a comment on how your own system is set up |
| 15:10 | <mc68040> | joydark: shouldnt be at least /boot on a primary? |
| 15:10 | <joydark> | anyways, that is irrelevant to the problem. |
| 15:10 | <joydark> | yes, you mean for the mbr |
| 15:11 | <joydark> | /boot is there formerly with lilo |
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| 15:12 | <mc68040> | joydark: mbr should be at the begining of the harddisk |
| 15:12 | <airikka> | It seems that I have a problem with my st lab usb ethernet nic... nothing to do with the Pause disabled thing. |
| 15:12 | <locklace> | airikka: 802.3x? |
| 15:12 | <mc68040> | joydark: or do u mean partition boot record? |
| 15:13 | <mc68040> | joydark: thats not lilo specific, mbr == master boot record and its started from bios |
| 15:13 | <joydark> | mbr is at the beginning.. wouldnt be much of a "master" if it wasn't :-) |
| 15:13 | <joydark> | yes, mbr ofc is at the beggining of the first drive, |
| 15:13 | <locklace> | airikka: you're going to have to investigate the problem some more. for example, the dmesg message about link down/link up suggests a flapping link, but is the link really flapping during the time you're having problems accessing the network? |
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| 15:13 | <joydark> | there was grub on there.. the more immediate problem is the initramfs |
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| 15:14 | <joydark> | as debian drops to ash as soon as askpass finishes its work.. |
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| 15:14 | <mc68040> | joydark: askpass? from luks or ssh? |
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| 15:16 | <joydark> | mc68040: luks |
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| 15:17 | <airikka> | locklace: yes, 802.3x |
| 15:18 | <mc68040> | joydark: and you want to recreate initrd from rescue cd in a chroot environment now |
| 15:18 | <joydark> | precisely |
| 15:18 | <airikka> | locklace: no error messages during my accessing prob |
| 15:18 | <airikka> | problems* |
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| 15:19 | <mc68040> | joydark: has the rescue cd (nearly) the same kernel version? |
| 15:19 | <locklace> | airikka: you need to know exactly what's going on during the "no access" time and at what layer things stop working |
| 15:19 | <airikka> | locklace: I thought first from the beginning that this was the Pause disabled thing on eth0... but I think eth2 is my real problem. |
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| 15:20 | <airikka> | yes.. I have to analyze if there are any packets going through |
| 15:20 | <airikka> | but i'll have to do it tomorrow |
| 15:20 | <locklace> | airikka: start at layer 1/2, make sure the ethernet link is still up consistently during the problem period and that frames are being tx/rx'd |
| 15:20 | <airikka> | locklace: I will return with more questions. thanks for your help |
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| 15:20 | <locklace> | airikka: if that works fine, continue with verifying continued connectivity to the gateway or next hop, etc. |
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| 15:22 | <joydark> | mc68040: the rescue mode, was either not able, or did not know how to mount the luks'd lvm group containing the rootfs. so I mounted it manually onto /target, and have tried to refresh the rescue part.. however without /proc , both the grub-install, as well as the initramfs both cannot do their work. so to reiterate, initramfs is the first priority, grub comes in @ #2.. tried rebuilding with update-initramfs -k all -u , as -c |
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| 15:23 | <mc68040> | joydark: im assuming ur rescue cd has udev running and /proc mounted, then i do a 'mount -o bind /proc /target/proc' and 'mount -o bind /dev /target/dev' and afterwards chrooting into /target |
| 15:24 | <joydark> | "none" is mounted @ /proc |
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| 15:24 | <joydark> | ack, will try |
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| 15:25 | <BCDN> | can any one help with this: http://pastebin.com/m3f78b9c5 |
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| 15:27 | <joydark> | mc68040: may I pm,so that I am not hogging the channel? |
| 15:27 | <mc68040> | joydark: yes, but im aaway |
| 15:27 | <mc68040> | joydark: im away for 5min |
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| 15:30 | <joydark> | mc68040: aye |
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| 15:38 | <soldiera> | hello just wanted to know if it is possible to password GRUB 2? |
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| 15:41 | <sam_> | hey, how can I purge programs that I previously removed |
| 15:42 | <rik_> | sam_: aptitude purge <packagename> |
| 15:45 | <sam_> | and if I want to purge all the programs that I removed |
| 15:45 | <sam_> | I don't know the packages name |
| 15:46 | <rik_> | aptitude purge $(dpkg -l | grep ^rc | awk '{print $2}') |
| 15:46 | <cahoot> | study /var/log/aptitude.log? |
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| 15:50 | <doomcup[eeepc]> | Hi, I'm afraid I'm having problems again |
| 15:50 | <doomcup[eeepc]> | I was out of debian for a while in my other OS doing a few things |
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| 15:50 | <doomcup[eeepc]> | Now I've booted back and my wireless connection has stopped working |
| 15:51 | <doomcup[eeepc]> | I can't bring up the interface with ifconfig, even as root |
| 15:51 | <BCDN> | is this channel logged some place? |
| 15:51 | <locklace> | !irclogs |
| 15:51 | <locklace> | !irclog |
| 15:51 | <dpkg> | [irclog][irclog] #debian on freenode is logged at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23debian/ , #debian on OFTC is logged at http://thegrebs.com/irc/ |
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| 15:52 | <doomcup[eeepc]> | When I try "ifconfig ra0 up" as root it gives the message "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not permitted" |
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| 15:52 | <locklace> | doomcup[eeepc]: paste the output of lspci -knn, uname -a, lsb_release -a, ifconfig -a, iwconfig at http://paste.debian.net |
| 15:53 | <BCDN> | does this indicate a bad CD drive? http://pastebin.com/m3f78b9c5 |
| 15:53 | <doomcup[eeepc]> | I can't |
| 15:53 | <doomcup[eeepc]> | The computer I'm doing this on has no connection without wireless |
| 15:53 | <soldiera> | can u password protect grub2 there is no menu.lst file |
| 15:54 | <soldiera> | there is no mention of password in the new config file found at /etc/grub |
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| 15:55 | <locklace> | BCDN: basically that output is indicating a communication failure between the sata controller and the drive |
| 15:56 | <doomcup[eeepc]> | locklace: I'll attempt to put the information you requested up via usb thumbdrive |
| 15:56 | <locklace> | BCDN: so it could be a problem with the sata controller port, the sata drive port, the cable, the power supply, or also possibly with the sata kernel subsystem |
| 15:57 | <BCDN> | well this is a laptop with a slim DVD burner. I don't get any errors from the HDD, and the box is dual boot and windows doesn't show any errors. |
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| 15:57 | <locklace> | BCDN: doesn't mean much, really |
| 15:57 | <BCDN> | I tried switching the SATA controller from AHCI to IDE and I get the same results |
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| 15:58 | <locklace> | BCDN: are you actually having any problems |
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| 15:58 | <locklace> | BCDN: what kernel version |
| 15:58 | <BCDN> | not that I can tell. It reads and burns cd/dvd fine |
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| 15:59 | <BCDN> | 2.6.31-1-686 and I tried my old 2.6.26-2-686 |
| 15:59 | <BCDN> | both have the same issue. |
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| 16:00 | <locklace> | well, something is probably suboptimal with the drive<->controller sata link, but not so much that it's actually causing operations to fail |
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| 16:01 | <doomcup[eeepc]> | locklace, I have the info in a text file, but I'm having problems copying and pasting it |
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| 16:02 | <doomcup[eeepc]> | Oh, nvm |
| 16:02 | <sam_> | hey |
| 16:02 | <sam_> | why is debian telling me to delete gnome |
| 16:03 | <sam_> | I'm using it at the moment |
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| 16:03 | <doomcup[eeepc]> | sam_ it's only asking you to remove the cover-all package, you'll still have Gnome |
| 16:03 | <doomcup[eeepc]> | locklace, http://paste.debian.net/53833/ |
| 16:03 | <BCDN> | locklace: ok, any way I can disable this message from appearing in dmesg, so I can I'll be able to see more importante messages? |
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| 16:04 | <sam_> | what do you mean by cover-all |
| 16:04 | <doomcup[eeepc]> | sam_, it's just a package that has all the parts of Gnome as a dependency |
| 16:04 | <doomcup[eeepc]> | removing it won't affect whether gnome's installed |
| 16:04 | <sam_> | The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: |
| 16:04 | <doomcup[eeepc]> | Sorry if I'm not explaining it clearly |
| 16:04 | <sam_> | bluez-gnome libswfdec-0.6-90 libsdl1.2debian libgnomekbd2 |
| 16:04 | <sam_> | libsdl1.2debian-alsa libepc-ui-1.0-1 xfce4-mcs-plugins xfprint4 ekiga |
| 16:04 | <sam_> | python-gst0.10 libmtp7 gcalctool libpth20 gnome-nettool gnome-media metacity |
| 16:04 | <sam_> | libepc-1.0-1 libgtk-vnc-1.0-0 nautilus libgksu1.2-0 aspell |
| 16:04 | -!- | sam_ was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use the paster bot or #flood] |
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| 16:05 | <sam_> | give me a website |
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| 16:05 | <sam_> | where I can paste things |
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| 16:06 | <BCDN> | pastebin.com |
| 16:06 | <BCDN> | or debian.patesbin.com |
| 16:06 | <doomcup[eeepc]> | If it's too busy I can come back later, but I really need to get the wireless working on my desktop computer again |
| 16:07 | <BCDN> | debian.pastebin.com** |
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| 16:07 | <doomcup[eeepc]> | I was in here last night when, with help, I got it working originally |
| 16:07 | <locklace> | BCDN: there's probably some kernel option you can pass, but you may have to dig around to find it. also see http://ata.wiki.kernel.org/ |
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| 16:08 | <sam_> | http://pastebin.org/64037 |
| 16:08 | <sam_> | see? |
| 16:08 | <sam_> | I don't want gnome to be removed, it's my favorite desktop |
| 16:08 | <sam_> | and I'm using it right now |
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| 16:09 | <doomcup[eeepc]> | sam_, what are you trying to install/remove? |
| 16:09 | <dr|z3d> | sam_: If you like Gnome, you may like Xfce even better. Ymmv. |
| 16:09 | <locklace> | doomcup[eeepc]: do you have the firmware for this card? what kernel version |
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| 16:10 | <doomcup[eeepc]> | locklace, I had the firmware, but it now shows that it isn't installed. I guess that there was a kernel update after I got my wireless working originally |
| 16:10 | <sam_> | what does ymmv mean? |
| 16:10 | <doomcup[eeepc]> | sam_, Your Mileage May Vary |
| 16:10 | <locklace> | !rt2860 |
| 16:10 | <dpkg> | The vendor driver for Ralink RT2860/2890 PCI draft-n wireless LAN devices (rt2860sta) is included as a staging driver in mainline kernels from 2.6.29-rc1. Available in Debian 2.6.29 and later kernel images (i386 & amd64 only), ask me about <ralink firmware> for kernels >= 2.6.30. Installation procedure at http://wiki.debian.org/rt2860sta . For USB 802.11n devices, ask about <rt2870sta>. |
| 16:11 | <sam_> | I was trying to remove xfce4 |
| 16:11 | <sam_> | lol |
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| 16:11 | <sam_> | but |
| 16:12 | <sam_> | it keeps telling me that |
| 16:12 | <sam_> | I installed wine and it told me to remove gnome |
| 16:13 | <sam_> | why would I like xfce better than gnome |
| 16:13 | <dr|z3d> | Installing Wine shouldn't touch Gnome; if it does, something up. |
| 16:14 | <sam_> | with everything I try to install or remove it tells me that |
| 16:14 | <sam_> | http://pastebin.org/64037 |
| 16:14 | <dr|z3d> | Why? Because it uses the same toolkit (gtk), is less bloated, and in my view, easier to customize. Did I mention it's less bloated? ;) |
| 16:14 | <sam_> | it should run smoother on my 800 mhz cpu ? lol |
| 16:15 | <dr|z3d> | It should indeed run a lot smoother. |
| 16:15 | <doomcup[eeepc]> | I have it working again. Thanks for your help |
| 16:15 | <sam_> | maybe should I try it again |
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| 16:17 | <fossiiil> | Xfce4 is nice and fast |
| 16:17 | <locklace> | !congratulate doomcup[eeepc] |
| 16:17 | <dpkg> | Good show doomcup[eeepc], you did it! |
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| 16:30 | <sam_> | xfce uses metacity? |
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| 16:31 | <mercutio22> | suddenly, only root can mount my external HD. How can I fix that? |
| 16:32 | <BCDN> | locklace: one thing i just noticed is that my HDD light is always on after the first time I get the ATA3 DRDY ERR |
| 16:32 | <mercutio22> | msg is : mount: only root can do that |
| 16:32 | <mercutio22> | dang |
| 16:33 | <BCDN> | If I disable the DVD drive in the bios I never get the ATA error and the hdd light acts normally |
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| 16:33 | <sam_> | is xfce using metacity? |
| 16:33 | <mercutio22> | weird... i haven't changed anything |
| 16:33 | <sam_> | well |
| 16:33 | <sam_> | I mean |
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| 16:33 | <sam_> | the xfce basic window manager |
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| 16:33 | <sam_> | is what |
| 16:34 | <locklace> | mercutio22: man mount | less '+/^ *user ' |
| 16:34 | <locklace> | BCDN: just backs up the previous conclusion, really. |
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| 16:37 | <sam_> | what are kerneloops applet? |
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| 16:38 | <BCDN> | locklace: I can get a new DVD from newegg for $39.99 should I try that or is it a waste of 40 bucks |
| 16:39 | <newsense> | sam_: collects kernel crash info and submits to kerneloops.org |
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| 16:39 | <locklace> | BCDN: who knows? you might try reseating or replacing the sata cable first |
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| 16:40 | <BCDN> | it's mounts to the mobo |
| 16:40 | <mercutio22> | locklace: thanks. I got it now |
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| 16:43 | <sam_> | man |
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| 16:43 | <sam_> | how can I change my wallpaper |
| 16:44 | <mercutio22> | sam_: right click it |
| 16:44 | <mercutio22> | sam_: on gnome that it |
| 16:44 | <mercutio22> | sam_: on gnome that is |
| 16:44 | <mercutio22> | ops |
| 16:44 | <sam_> | I'm on xfce |
| 16:44 | <mercutio22> | sam_: not sure. refer to xfce documentation |
| 16:45 | <Nemoder> | settings->desktop in xfce |
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| 16:47 | <doomcup> | Hm |
| 16:47 | <doomcup> | Apparently sound isn't working in flash |
| 16:47 | <doomcup> | alsa's installed, it's not muted |
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| 16:47 | <sam_> | thanks nemoder |
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| 16:47 | <doomcup> | I vaguely remember last time needing to install a package in order for flash to work, but I can't seem to find it |
| 16:48 | <dr|z3d> | flashplugin-nonfree |
| 16:49 | <dr|z3d> | apt-cache search flash |grep adobe |
| 16:49 | <doomcup> | I have the flashplugin-nonfree installed |
| 16:49 | <sam_> | download the .deb file from adobe.com |
| 16:49 | <doomcup> | I'm on a 64-bit system |
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| 16:50 | <sam_> | did you install the 64bit version? |
| 16:50 | <doomcup> | I would assume so |
| 16:50 | <sam_> | try the 32bit one |
| 16:50 | <doomcup> | That would require installing 32-bit compatibility libs |
| 16:51 | <doomcup> | I'd rather keep that as a last resort |
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| 16:51 | <doomcup> | Does the flashplugin-nonfree package install the 64-bit plugin under amd64, though? |
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| 16:58 | <doomcup> | Correction; there is no audio on my computer at all |
| 16:58 | <locklace> | doomcup: "cat /proc/asound/cards" and "speaker-test -t wav -c 2" |
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| 17:01 | <doomcup> | locklace: http://pastebin.com/m2f8785ca |
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| 17:04 | <doomcup> | And the speaker-test is producing nothing |
| 17:04 | <doomcup> | No sound, anyway |
| 17:04 | <dvs> | doomcup, you're trying to use the sound on your graphics card? |
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| 17:06 | <doomcup> | What? |
| 17:06 | <doomcup> | Er, no? |
| 17:06 | <doomcup> | I didn't realize my graphics card even had sound capability |
| 17:06 | <dvs> | doomcup, you have an AMD chipset? |
| 17:07 | <doomcup> | Yes |
| 17:07 | <dvs> | ah. that's it. |
| 17:07 | <doomcup> | So, is there some way this can be fixed? |
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| 17:07 | <dvs> | doomcup, I'm guessing you already tried alsamixer |
| 17:08 | <doomcup> | Yes, nothing was muted, and volume is 100% |
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| 17:08 | <doomcup> | wait |
| 17:08 | <dvs> | doomcup, and the snd-hda module is loaded? |
| 17:09 | <doomcup> | I have sound now |
| 17:09 | <dvs> | no you don't. ;) |
| 17:09 | <doomcup> | Turns out one of the volume things was at 0 |
| 17:09 | <locklace> | !congratulate doomcup |
| 17:09 | <dpkg> | Good show doomcup, you did it! |
| 17:09 | <doomcup> | But not the one I expected |
| 17:09 | <dvs> | which one? |
| 17:09 | <newsense> | i got no sound here either |
| 17:09 | <doomcup> | Front |
| 17:10 | * | doomcup shrugs |
| 17:10 | <doomcup> | I never had to put up with this stuff in Arch :p |
| 17:10 | <dvs> | yes, that's for a 2 speaker setup |
| 17:10 | <newsense> | nvidia audio |
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| 17:10 | <locklace> | newsense: "cat /proc/asound/cards", "speaker-test -t wav -c 2" and start playing with mixer settings |
| 17:10 | <dvs> | master, front and pcm sliders need to be up |
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| 17:11 | <locklace> | newsense: and install the .32 kernel for your wireless |
| 17:11 | <doomcup> | Thanks for your help |
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| 17:11 | <newsense> | locklace: i was doing that actually when doomcup was being helped |
| 17:11 | <dvs> | doomcup, uhhhhh no problem? |
| 17:11 | <dvs> | ;-) |
| 17:11 | <locklace> | mixer settings are sometimes confusing, you can press f3/f4/etc. in alsamixer to get more options and sometimes you have to mute or unmute certain things like external amp |
| 17:11 | <newsense> | locklace: if i go into alsamixer its set to use pcspkr so i change it to hda nvidia and have played with the mixer settinfgd |
| 17:12 | <locklace> | newsense: unload the pcspkr module with modprobe -r |
| 17:12 | <locklace> | !shoot pcspkr |
| 17:12 | * | dpkg blows pcspkr away with a double-barreled shotgun |
| 17:13 | <newsense> | i removed the module but alsamixer still defaults to it |
| 17:14 | <fossiiil> | hello |
| 17:14 | <dvs> | newsense, then blacklist it |
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| 17:15 | <locklace> | newsense: you should blacklist via configuration in /etc/modprobe.d |
| 17:15 | <newsense> | it's not loaded now, i plan on blacklisting it |
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| 17:15 | <locklace> | newsense: and reboot |
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| 17:16 | <locklace> | !pcspkr |
| 17:16 | <dpkg> | from memory, pcspkr is makes an annoying BEEPing <bell> sound from within your computer (usually a piezo spkr, attached to the Motherboard). Add "blacklist pcspkr" to any file in /etc/modprobe.d/ (/blacklist, /local, /blacklist.local, etc) to kill it -- and/or "blacklist snd_pcsp" since 2.6.26 kernels - 'alsamixer' might show a PC Speak[er] slider/option as well. Ensure /etc/modules does not contain any modules you're blacklisting |
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| 17:17 | <newsense> | brb reboot |
| 17:17 | <dvs> | hide! |
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| 17:25 | <locklace> | !qotd0 |
| 17:25 | <dpkg> | * Guerin/#debian goes to pick his wife up from kindy |
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| 17:31 | <newsense> | locklace: thanks again got my audio working now, never would have thought that the pcspkr module would mess up my main audio |
| 17:31 | <locklace> | !congratulate newsense |
| 17:31 | <dpkg> | Hugs & Puppies newsense, you did it! |
| 17:32 | <newsense> | haha |
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| 17:33 | <sam_> | how can I remove every package that contains gnome |
| 17:33 | <sam_> | like |
| 17:33 | <sam_> | sudo apt-get remove *gnome* |
| 17:33 | <sam_> | don't know |
| 17:33 | <sam_> | can I use jokers? |
| 17:34 | <abrotman> | !remove gnome |
| 17:34 | <dpkg> | To remove or purge GNOME 2.x, do: aptitude remove libgnome2-* libbonobo2-* liborbit2* libgnomeui* libgnomevfs2-* (use purge instead of remove if that's what you want). For GNOME 1.x, use aptitude remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (or use purge accordingly). |
| 17:34 | <abrotman> | !tell sam_ about why aptitude |
| 17:34 | <sam_> | why aptitude and not apt |
| 17:35 | <abrotman> | the bot just told you |
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| 17:35 | <sam_> | he didn't tell me |
| 17:35 | <sam_> | <abrotman> !tell sam_ about why aptitude |
| 17:35 | <sam_> | <sam_> why aptitude and not apt |
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| 17:36 | <sam_> | oh |
| 17:36 | <sam_> | private chatting |
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| 17:37 | <sam_> | so should I always use aptitude instead of apt-get? |
| 17:38 | <locklace> | did you just refer to shell wildcard characters as jokers? |
| 17:38 | <locklace> | !win sam_ |
| 17:38 | <dpkg> | Congratulations, sam_! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
| 17:38 | <sam_> | yes |
| 17:39 | <newsense> | i like it, i'll start calling wildcards jokers too :) |
| 17:39 | <dvs> | sam_: it's the recommended package handler |
| 17:39 | <sam_> | don't laugh at my bad english |
| 17:39 | <sam_> | plz |
| 17:40 | <locklace> | the reaction we're experiencing is more akin to awe |
| 17:41 | <sam_> | so I should use aptitude all the time? |
| 17:41 | <locklace> | yes please |
| 17:42 | <dvs> | sam_: yes |
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| 17:43 | <sam_> | I can't understand, I uninstalled gnome and gnome-terminal is still there |
| 17:44 | <sam_> | I think wildcards are not working with aptitude |
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| 17:45 | <sam_> | I typed aptitude remove gnome-* and it didn't uninstall gnome-terminal |
| 17:45 | <sam_> | wth |
| 17:45 | <abrotman> | that's not how the bot told you to uninstall gnome |
| 17:45 | <sam_> | I was not using it |
| 17:46 | <sam_> | I did what he told me |
| 17:46 | <sam_> | it didn't work |
| 17:46 | <sam_> | well everything was already uninstalled |
| 17:46 | <sam_> | but not gnome-terminal |
| 17:47 | <sam_> | it didn't uninstall it |
| 17:47 | <locklace> | the bot command is buggy, in that it doesn't escape the wildcards |
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| 17:48 | <locklace> | sam_: so you should put a \ in front of each *. and add "gnome-terminal" to the list for the hell of it |
| 17:49 | <sam_> | but gnome-terminal is part of gnome |
| 17:49 | <locklace> | i know. the mind bends |
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| 18:21 | <sam_> | hey |
| 18:22 | <sam_> | I restarted my comp |
| 18:22 | <sam_> | and X didn't load |
| 18:22 | <sam_> | automaticly |
| 18:22 | <sam_> | so I typed startx |
| 18:22 | <locklace> | !space bar |
| 18:22 | <dpkg> | The space bar is the correct way to separate connected sentences on IRC. Please use it. The Return/Enter key is not a substitute. |
| 18:22 | <sam_> | and now xfce is running but no window manager |
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| 18:23 | <sam_> | !space bar |
| 18:23 | <dpkg> | The space bar is the correct way to separate connected sentences on IRC. Please use it. The Return/Enter key is not a substitute. |
| 18:23 | <sam_> | !sexe |
| 18:23 | <sam_> | !help |
| 18:25 | <sam_> | anyone knows? |
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| 18:26 | <inkbottle> | Hi, I bought a Wacom bamboo fun, then. Would someone has one here? (I wonder if it's going to do something out of the box) |
| 18:27 | <sam_> | I have a wacom bamboo |
| 18:27 | <sam_> | didn't try it on linux |
| 18:28 | <inkbottle> | goin to plug the usb cable... |
| 18:29 | <inkbottle> | plugged |
| 18:29 | <sam_> | why don't you just try it? |
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| 18:31 | <sam_> | does it work |
| 18:31 | <inkbottle> | "it kicks arse" (not sure i can say that) :) |
| 18:32 | <sam_> | so it works well? |
| 18:32 | <inkbottle> | nooo, too nice for now |
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| 18:32 | <inkbottle> | for now i just tried the "mouse" |
| 18:33 | <sam_> | oh |
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| 18:33 | <inkbottle> | I have to open a gimp or whatever an see |
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| 18:37 | <inkbottle> | with inkscape it's working, i mean i can draw, i'll see later if i can use the "pressure" for something |
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| 18:39 | <dr|z3d> | inkbottle: Also have a look at http://xaraxtreme.org/ perhaps. |
| 18:39 | <dr|z3d> | The freehand tool I think supports pressure sensitivity, and it's much faster than Inkscape. |
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| 18:49 | <shhh> | hey guys - i have a simple general question i think. If i want to install a package which is listed packages.debian.org but is not accessable through synaptic package mang. what do i do? can i do some kind of apt-get install? |
| 18:49 | <abrotman> | which package ? |
| 18:49 | <shhh> | pidgin 2.6.4 |
| 18:49 | <abrotman> | judd: versions pidgin |
| 18:49 | <judd> | abrotman: pidgin -- lenny-volatile: 2.4.3-4lenny1~volatile0 lenny: 2.4.3-4lenny1 etch-backports: 2.4.3-4lenny5~bpo40+1 lenny-security: 2.4.3-4lenny5 lenny-backports: 2.6.3-1~bpo50+1 sid: 2.6.4-1 squeeze: 2.6.4-1 |
| 18:49 | <shhh> | 2.6.4-1 actually |
| 18:49 | <abrotman> | what's wrong with 2.6.3 from backports.org ? |
| 18:50 | <shhh> | im newbe - i dont know what backports is |
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| 18:50 | <abrotman> | okay .. then what's worng with the one you have ? |
| 18:50 | <shhh> | it says i cannot log onto msn becaus the protocol is not supported on the server |
| 18:51 | <shhh> | i googled it and people says it is fixed in the 2.6.4 pidgin |
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| 19:01 | <sam_> | I really need help, x is not launching at boot time, I have to type startx for x to run |
| 19:02 | <abrotman> | using gnome? kde? something else? |
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| 19:02 | <Dracari> | i'm having a problem installing. trying for USB or Windows loader installer. when it reboots it says No drivers found on my network card and Reguardless Demands the CD-Rom. it;s a Dell Inspirion 1300 im trying to use. |
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| 19:02 | <shhh> | abrotman - backports.org did the job - just never heard about it befor |
| 19:03 | <shhh> | thanks for pointing my attention to it |
| 19:04 | <abrotman> | sam_: ? |
| 19:04 | <Dracari> | i belive the onboard Eithernet is a Broadcom Based chipset but i do have an old USB external adapter (the OLD "Playstation 2" "Go-Net" adapter. |
| 19:05 | <sam_> | xfce |
| 19:05 | <abrotman> | sam_: aptitude install gdm |
| 19:05 | <abrotman> | Dracari: /msg dpkg installer firmware |
| 19:06 | <sam_> | gdm is gnome display manager |
| 19:06 | <sam_> | does xfce have its own display manager? |
| 19:06 | <Dracari> | i see a zip and a .tar.gz which should i download? |
| 19:08 | <abrotman> | Dracari: /msg dpkg installer firmware |
| 19:08 | <abrotman> | whoops |
| 19:08 | <abrotman> | sam_: aptitude install gdm |
| 19:08 | <abrotman> | Dracari: see it where? |
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| 19:08 | <abrotman> | Dracari: you want the dannf link |
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| 19:09 | <sam_> | why is apt-cache search gdm faster than aptitude search gdm ? |
| 19:10 | <Dracari> | abrotman thats good IF its abtle to access the network and i dopnt have a system beyond my headless linux server that'll run it. |
| 19:10 | <abrotman> | Dracari: you don't have any other systems ? |
| 19:10 | <abrotman> | sam_: they search differently |
| 19:11 | <Dracari> | thats running linux atm? yes but kinda Moot-point, |
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| 19:11 | <Dracari> | it has a dualboot of Dreamlinux & windows XP |
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| 19:11 | <sam_> | if they weren't searching differently they would have the same speed |
| 19:11 | <sam_> | lol |
| 19:11 | <Dracari> | but im not liking how DL is like. |
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| 19:21 | <Dracari> | is it possioble to merge the extra firmware files into the netinst image? |
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| 19:22 | <abrotman> | sure |
| 19:22 | <abrotman> | !custom netinst |
| 19:22 | <dpkg> | To create customized Debian <netinst> images, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Modify/CustomKernel and http://wiki.debian.org/DebianCustomCD . Also ask me about <kmuto>. |
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| 19:24 | <Dracari> | From windows i mean. i reallllly dont want to download all those DVD Images. |
| 19:24 | <abrotman> | the firmware wouldn't be there anyways |
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| 19:25 | <abrotman> | if you have dreamlinux running, you can use the script to create a new ISO to use |
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| 19:26 | <Dracari> | ok |
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| 19:33 | <sam_> | hey |
| 19:33 | <sam_> | is the display manager suppose to launch before X ? |
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| 19:46 | <Minh> | hello everyone |
| 19:48 | <Minh> | i just installed debian from usb with the netinst iso and now im stuck after installing |
| 19:48 | <Minh> | can any1 help |
| 19:49 | <sam_> | stuck? |
| 19:49 | <Minh> | im noob to linux |
| 19:50 | <Minh> | and after installing now im at the console |
| 19:50 | <Minh> | and dont know how to install network |
| 19:50 | <sam_> | oh |
| 19:50 | <sam_> | no graphical interface? |
| 19:50 | <Minh> | no |
| 19:50 | <Minh> | i used the netinst iso |
| 19:50 | <Minh> | to install to my netbook |
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| 19:50 | <Minh> | so it contains core only |
| 19:50 | <dvs> | Minh: man 5 interfaces |
| 19:51 | <Minh> | no graphic |
| 19:51 | <Minh> | and no network |
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| 19:52 | <Minh> | any1 knows what to do next? |
| 19:52 | <sam_> | you need a network connection |
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| 19:53 | <Minh> | yup but how can i setup the network |
| 19:53 | <abrotman> | Minh: which gui do you want? |
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| 19:53 | <sam_> | are you using wifi or ethernet? |
| 19:53 | <Minh> | lxde is good |
| 19:53 | <Minh> | im using wifi |
| 19:54 | <dvs> | a network connection would help |
| 19:54 | <Minh> | u meant cable network? |
| 19:54 | <Minh> | not wifi |
| 19:55 | <dvs> | chances are you need to download something |
| 19:55 | <dvs> | to get it to work |
| 19:55 | <sam_> | I don't know how you will set up wifi |
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| 19:55 | <sam_> | but with ethernet it would be easier |
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| 19:55 | <newsense> | install wireless-tools package |
| 19:56 | <newsense> | what chipset is the wifi adapter ? |
| 19:56 | <Minh> | wait a sec i will check |
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| 19:59 | <Minh> | lol it's an OCZ netbook and it just says wireless 802.11 b/g/ |
| 19:59 | <newsense> | lspci |
| 19:59 | <Minh> | i installed ubuntu netbook remix once, and opensuse once and both have wireless right after installing |
| 20:00 | <newsense> | you might need non-free firmware |
| 20:01 | <Minh> | what should i do now |
| 20:01 | <Minh> | that netbook doesnt have wifi now |
| 20:01 | <newsense> | find it in lspci |
| 20:02 | <Minh> | im noob so i dont know any command |
| 20:03 | <sney> | newsense just told you one |
| 20:03 | <sney> | try it |
| 20:04 | <sney> | look for things that say "wireless" or "network" or even both |
| 20:04 | <Minh> | i typed lspci and it says command not found |
| 20:04 | <sney> | make it /sbin/lspci |
| 20:04 | <Minh> | it says not such file or directory |
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| 20:05 | <Minh> | do i need to switch to super user and how? im in normal user terminal now |
| 20:05 | <sney> | no, I guess you just didn't get pciutils installed |
| 20:05 | <sney> | sudo aptitude install pciutils and then try lspci again |
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| 20:06 | <Minh> | i installed debian from netinst so it says only core system is installed |
| 20:06 | <Minh> | ok |
| 20:06 | <Minh> | sudo command not found |
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| 20:07 | <sney> | I always forget how bare bones the core system is |
| 20:07 | <sney> | ok |
| 20:07 | <sney> | to become superuser, type su - |
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| 20:08 | <Minh> | thx im now super user |
| 20:08 | <headup> | Minh: sudo is a gnome gender |
| 20:08 | <sney> | please don't intentionally confuse the newbies |
| 20:08 | <headup> | only if you have gnome.. you have sudo |
| 20:08 | <sney> | headup: wrong. |
| 20:09 | <Minh> | i installed the netinst so there is no gui |
| 20:09 | <headup> | so.. ? |
| 20:09 | <Minh> | and no wifi |
| 20:09 | <headup> | Minh: install you gui with apt |
| 20:09 | <Minh> | i also have internet cable though |
| 20:09 | <sney> | the netinst does have the option for a gui, but you can do that later |
| 20:10 | <sney> | aptitude install pciutils and then you can figure out your wifi |
| 20:10 | <Minh> | ok let me try |
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| 20:10 | <Minh> | do i need to connect to the internet to install that |
| 20:11 | <sam_> | hey does my display manager have something to do with my cursor? |
| 20:11 | <sney> | Minh: yes |
| 20:11 | <Minh> | oops, ok i will plug the cable and try it again |
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| 20:12 | <frozen> | hi |
| 20:13 | <sam_> | hi |
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| 20:14 | <Minh> | i plugged the cable but nothing happens |
| 20:14 | <Minh> | can i download the package to the usb |
| 20:15 | <Minh> | and install it from usb |
| 20:15 | <Minh> | ? |
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| 20:15 | <sam_> | try to type |
| 20:15 | <sam_> | ping google.com |
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| 20:16 | <sney> | Minh: yes, but you will need to sort out any dependencies yourself |
| 20:16 | <Minh> | it says unknow host google.com |
| 20:17 | <Minh> | sounds complicated o.o |
| 20:17 | <Minh> | is there any way to install debian (with GUI) from usb? |
| 20:17 | <dvs> | Minh: believe me. It's much easier to get the wired connection working first and download directly from the internet. |
| 20:17 | <sney> | I dunno why you only installed the core system, netinst has an option for "desktop environment" |
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| 20:18 | <Minh> | i dont know |
| 20:18 | <Minh> | i follow the installation guide on site |
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| 20:18 | <Minh> | they say download the boot.img.gz |
| 20:18 | <sney> | well you could just run the installer again and select desktop when it comes up |
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| 20:18 | <Minh> | and the the netinst iso |
| 20:18 | <sam_> | how did you netinstalled debian and now can't get the network working? |
| 20:18 | <headup> | try ifconfig eth0 |
| 20:18 | <headup> | to see if your inet connection is up |
| 20:18 | <Minh> | the installation doesnt support my network i guess |
| 20:18 | <Minh> | k wait a sec i will try that |
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| 20:19 | <headup> | or just try ifconfig |
| 20:19 | <headup> | as root |
| 20:19 | <sam_> | well you need a network conenction to install debian with netinst |
| 20:19 | <sam_> | lol |
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| 20:20 | <headup> | probably his dhcp is going dumb or something lol |
| 20:20 | <Minh> | ifconfig tells some info about the hardware and does nothing |
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| 20:21 | <Minh> | when i installed it said can not config dhcp server |
| 20:21 | <headup> | Minh: but you can see your eth interface? |
| 20:21 | <Minh> | and gave me the option to config it after installing |
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| 20:21 | <chris> | what is the best linux dist. to use as an only os to instead of xp |
| 20:21 | <headup> | chris: for the first time, try ubuntu or mint |
| 20:22 | <abrotman> | chris: you're in #debian .. what do you think we'll say ? |
| 20:22 | <headup> | when you'r familiarized with linux, install debian squeeze |
| 20:22 | <abrotman> | except for the guy that doesn't know what he's talking about .. |
| 20:22 | <sam_> | lol |
| 20:22 | <Minh> | ifconfig say eth0 BROADCASR MULTI blah blah blah |
| 20:22 | <dr|z3d> | chris: Do you want stuff to "just work" or do you want a roller coaster introduction to Linux? |
| 20:22 | <headup> | Minh: try |
| 20:22 | <sam_> | debian and ubuntu are very similar, and I find debian way better |
| 20:22 | <headup> | ifdown eth0 |
| 20:22 | <chris> | just the first room I came across, I'm new to linux, just been playing around with it for 2 days |
| 20:22 | <headup> | then ifup eth0 |
| 20:22 | <abrotman> | chris: try ##linux on irc.freenode.net |
| 20:23 | <Minh> | ok |
| 20:23 | <headup> | to renicialize your eth interface |
| 20:23 | <dr|z3d> | chris: What distro are you using? |
| 20:23 | <headup> | dr|z3d: he's using windows xp, for sure lol |
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| 20:23 | <dr|z3d> | headup: "I'm new to linux, just been playing around with it for 2 days" |
| 20:23 | <chris> | i installed debian with musix, thogh I'm having a prob loading |
| 20:24 | <dr|z3d> | chris: If you've installed debian, stick with it. |
| 20:24 | <abrotman> | chris: Musix is *not* Debian |
| 20:24 | <headup> | dr|z3d: lol you're right i read the part he said that he has windows xp |
| 20:24 | <chris> | it's got debian wrote all over it |
| 20:24 | <dr|z3d> | chris: when you say musix, do you mean mp3s and so on? |
| 20:24 | <abrotman> | !musix |
| 20:24 | <dpkg> | Musix GNU+Linux is a <Knoppix>-based distribution containing a large selection of free audio software. http://www.musix.org.ar/ #musix on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on Debian>. |
| 20:24 | <chris> | don't kno though |
| 20:24 | <abrotman> | it's not Debian |
| 20:25 | <dr|z3d> | Ah. |
| 20:25 | <sam_> | knoppix is based on debian |
| 20:25 | <Minh> | headup: ifdown says interface eth0 not configured and ifup says ignoreing unknow interface eth0=eth0 |
| 20:25 | <abrotman> | it's NOT Debian |
| 20:25 | <dr|z3d> | pizza is based on pita bread. |
| 20:25 | <headup> | Minh your dhcp server is fucked then |
| 20:25 | <headup> | i think.. |
| 20:25 | <dr|z3d> | chris: You need to go to freenode. |
| 20:25 | <Minh> | so i have to reinstall or what |
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| 20:27 | <sam_> | hey |
| 20:27 | <sam_> | I removed my display manager and X is not launching automaticly, why? |
| 20:27 | <headup> | do you have any router or something on your network ? |
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| 20:28 | <dr|z3d> | sam_: That's the the dm is for. Otherwise, use a script. |
| 20:28 | <dr|z3d> | Or just type: startx |
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| 20:29 | <jpinx-eeepc> | is it just me - or is that one for the quotes? |
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| 20:29 | <Nazcafan> | I could partially solve my console font issue |
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| 20:29 | <sam_> | I thought a dm was for login |
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| 20:30 | <Nazcafan> | setting up kernel modesetting kind of rendered strangely accented character on consoles |
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| 20:31 | <Nazcafan> | I installed fonty-rg |
| 20:31 | <max_> | ciao ragazzi, io prima volta qui... posso avere qualche aiuto x ubuntu? |
| 20:32 | <Nazcafan> | and when I use the utf8 script on console, it solves the issue, but it is not permanent |
| 20:32 | <Nazcafan> | !italian |
| 20:32 | <dpkg> | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
| 20:33 | <max_> | tnk |
| 20:33 | <abrotman> | he actually wants #ubuntu-it on irc.freenode.net |
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| 20:34 | <Minh> | i give up on this ^^ |
| 20:35 | <Minh> | any1 knows how to install debian (with gui, not the debian netinst) from USB |
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| 20:36 | <sney> | you would need to use cd1.iso instead of netinst.iso. I'm not sure how much space boot.img.gz gives you but it might be enough |
| 20:36 | <abrotman> | !usb install |
| 20:36 | <dpkg> | Yes, it is possible to install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 . To download USB stick images, ask me about <install debian>. (Older, outdated article at http://d-i.pascal.at/). BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
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| 20:36 | <Nazcafan> | abrotman, ever tried kms? |
| 20:36 | <abrotman> | for what? |
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| 20:39 | <Minh> | lol i used the exact way the guide tells |
| 20:39 | <Minh> | boot.img gives 256 mb only |
| 20:40 | <sney> | it just needs to be able to find an installer iso, it doesn't matter which one .. do you have another usb stick? you could put boot.img.gz on one and CD1.iso on the other and plug them both in, that should work |
| 20:40 | <sney> | or an external hard drive or whatever |
| 20:40 | <Minh> | oh really |
| 20:40 | <Minh> | the guide says i need to copy the iso file |
| 20:40 | <Minh> | to the usb that i unzip the boot.img onto |
| 20:41 | <sney> | as long as the installer can find it, it doesn't matter where it is. the manual just keeps things simple. |
| 20:41 | <Minh> | lol that must be much easier |
| 20:41 | <Minh> | i will try it now |
| 20:41 | <sney> | the installer will actually search *all* readable connected drives for an installable iso |
| 20:41 | <Minh> | lol the guide doesnt tell me that |
| 20:42 | <Minh> | so i just plug the usb with boot.img in |
| 20:42 | <Minh> | and another usb/external hdd with the iso file |
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| 20:53 | <damiank> | has anyone tried lxde? |
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| 20:53 | <dondelelcaro> | damiank: no, no one has. |
| 20:53 | <damiank> | ok |
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| 21:01 | <sam_> | hey |
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| 21:01 | <sam_> | xfce saves sessions |
| 21:01 | <sam_> | when closing |
| 21:01 | <sam_> | I don't want to |
| 21:01 | <kay_nine> | m |
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| 21:02 | <fran> | hola |
| 21:02 | <fran> | hay alguien? |
| 21:02 | <sney> | !es |
| 21:02 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 21:02 | <fran> | soy nuevo en ubuntu |
| 21:03 | <abrotman> | fran: #ubuntu-es on irc.freenode.net |
| 21:03 | <sney> | no ubuntu aqui |
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| 21:03 | <fran> | y no consigo hacer que se vean en firefox los videos de youtube |
| 21:03 | <sney> | vaya a #ubuntu-es en irc.freenode.net. no ubuntu aqui |
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| 21:49 | <adb> | what do "grep break=top /proc/cmdline" ? |
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| 21:56 | <diego> | hi, I changed my timezone but ntpdate keeps setting the old one |
| 21:57 | <abrotman> | !set the time |
| 21:57 | <dpkg> | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install <ntp> to have their clock set automatically on reboot and slewed to match time servers. You may also need to run dpkg-reconfigure tzdata (lenny and later) or tzconfig (etch and earlier) to set the time zone, and verify the UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS prior. |
| 21:57 | <sney> | I use hwclock because I'm badass and/or crazy |
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| 21:59 | <diego> | my problem is actually ntp is using my old timezone |
| 21:59 | <diego> | even I changed it with tzselect |
| 22:00 | <abrotman> | diego: grep UTC /etc/default/rcS |
| 22:00 | <diego> | UTC=no (for windows compatibility) |
| 22:01 | <diego> | the problem is tzselect didnt update /etc/timezone file |
| 22:01 | <diego> | I wonder why |
| 22:04 | <diego> | dpkg-reconfigure tzdata will do it, thx anyway |
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| 22:14 | <Minh> | hello guys, i m back |
| 22:15 | <Minh> | i successfully install debian 503 lxde xfce cd 1 iso but it still boot in console mode lol |
| 22:15 | <Minh> | how can i switch to gui mode from terminal |
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| 22:16 | <jpinx-eeepc> | Minh: startx |
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| 22:16 | <jpinx-eeepc> | Minh: install a dm to automate that |
| 22:16 | <Minh> | i tried startx |
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| 22:16 | <Minh> | but it turned the screen to nothing |
| 22:16 | <Minh> | grey screen lol |
| 22:17 | <jpinx-eeepc> | Minh: take a look in your error logs |
| 22:17 | <Minh> | there is nothing on the screen |
| 22:17 | <Minh> | just a grey grid all over the screen |
| 22:19 | <Minh> | i think it doesnt work |
| 22:19 | <jpinx-eeepc> | !doesn't work |
| 22:19 | <dpkg> | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>. |
| 22:19 | <abrotman> | Minh: which WM/DE do you want ? |
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| 22:20 | <Minh> | i just use lxde and xfce |
| 22:20 | <abrotman> | Minh: aptitude install xfce4 lxde gdm xorg |
| 22:20 | <jpinx-eeepc> | Minh: I use gdm with lxde |
| 22:20 | <Minh> | there is a lxde xfce iso on the debian site |
| 22:20 | <jpinx-eeepc> | Minh: having both lxde and xfce install might be confuxing you;) |
| 22:20 | <Minh> | i downloaded it and successfully installed |
| 22:21 | * | jpinx-eeepc re-arranges his fingers |
| 22:21 | <Minh> | when installing it only show desktop environment (doenst tell me lxde or xfce) |
| 22:21 | <jpinx-eeepc> | Minh: you are using a live cd? |
| 22:21 | <Minh> | no |
| 22:22 | <Minh> | the iso file i downloaded from debian site |
| 22:22 | <Minh> | it's nearly 700 mb |
| 22:22 | <Minh> | when i type startx, it starts to a grey screen |
| 22:22 | <Minh> | seem like it works |
| 22:22 | <Minh> | but not properly |
| 22:23 | <Minh> | i can only see the mouse on the screen |
| 22:23 | <Minh> | and when i left or right click it show another window say debian on top and exit at bottom |
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| 22:24 | <Minh> | how to check for the log file? |
| 22:24 | <Nemoder> | Minh: you might try: update-alternatives --config x-window-manager |
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| 22:25 | <Minh> | i dont have wifi on that yet so cant update or install package |
| 22:25 | <Nemoder> | alternatives changes the settings it doesn't download |
| 22:27 | <Minh> | it says there is only 1 prog provides x win manager (/usr/bin/wtm) nothing to configure |
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| 22:29 | <abrotman> | twm |
| 22:29 | <abrotman> | fix your wifi first |
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| 22:30 | <Minh> | it's too hard for me, im noob in linux :D |
| 22:30 | <Minh> | i should switch back to ubuntu til im better at linux |
| 22:30 | <Minh> | thx guys |
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| 22:32 | <abrotman> | okay then .. |
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| 22:35 | <Requia> | Aha! |
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| 22:36 | <Requia> | I'm on irc, now, can anybody help me with setting up a graphics card? I installed the fglrc (or is it flgrx?) driver and had dpkg build a new xorg.conf, but now I get a 'out of range' error on my monitor |
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| 22:37 | <Requia> | I think it's setting the resolution too high, but i'm not sure how to fix that without having graphics working |
| 22:37 | <Wilduck> | Hey guys, I have a question about the system clock. I've tried many a time to change my timezone/dst settings, and they never stick after a reboot. What is the correct way to go about this? |
| 22:37 | <Requia> | also it may not be loading the driver, at least xorg.con doesn't list a driver to load at all |
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| 22:40 | <qn3t> | Name a DE, doesn't matter which one |
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| 22:41 | <Requia> | qn3t: What does DE stand for? |
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| 22:41 | <qn3t> | Desktop Environment, or Drugged Education |
| 22:41 | <Requia> | KDE? |
| 22:42 | <abrotman> | that's one |
| 22:42 | <qn3t> | Yeah that works |
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| 22:42 | <Requia> | Oh hey, a question that actually fits in my skill level |
| 22:43 | <Requia> | that's a first around here |
| 22:43 | <dr|z3d> | Requia:Gnome. KDE, Xfce.. all DE's. |
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| 22:44 | <Requia> | So, anybody have any idea what to do about my graphics card, or shoul dI go back to the onboard card? |
| 22:45 | <sney> | !fglrx |
| 22:45 | <dpkg> | it has been said that fglrx is "FireGL and Radeon for X", the AMD/ATI proprietary display driver. To install, ask me about <fglrx one-liner> or follow the instructions at http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary . As of fglrx-driver 1:9-4-1, no chipsets prior to the R600 series are supported; ask me about <radeon> or <radeonhd> instead. #ati on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 22:45 | <sam_> | hey |
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| 22:46 | <sam_> | how can I make iceweasel the default browser |
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| 22:46 | <Requia> | I installed that already |
| 22:46 | <sney> | well if it didn't work you probably missed a step. go back and look again. |
| 22:46 | <dr|z3d> | sam_: Set it under Preferred Applications or similar. |
| 22:47 | <Requia> | hmm |
| 22:47 | <sney> | sam_: sudo update-alternatives --set x-www-browser `which iceweasel` |
| 22:47 | <Requia> | !fglrx one-liner |
| 22:47 | <dpkg> | Ensure you have <non-free sources> added. Exit X / stop any <DM>, then: "aptitude install module-assistant fglrx-driver fglrx-control fglrx-kernel-src && m-a a-i fglrx && modprobe -r radeon drm && modprobe fglrx && echo fglrx >> /etc/modules". Lenny users: create/edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and specify 'fglrx' for the driver in the Device section (man xorg.conf). Etch users: run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and select fglrx. |
| 22:47 | <sney> | you can also /msg dpkg any keywords so it doesn't spam the channel |
| 22:47 | <Requia> | Except I can't get PMs right now |
| 22:48 | <sam_> | I did it |
| 22:48 | <sam_> | but exo-open --launch WebBrowser still open google chrome |
| 22:48 | <sam_> | instead of iceweasel |
| 22:49 | <Requia> | hmm, some of those didn't install from the sptitude command |
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| 22:49 | <sney> | Requia: if you just downloaded it from ati.com we can't support you |
| 22:50 | <Requia> | I got it from the repo |
| 22:50 | <Dracari> | back, i tried that script i was suggested to for adding non-free firmware/drivers to the netinst iso. i got this error log. http://pastebin.org/64165 |
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| 22:55 | <Requia> | quit |
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| 22:57 | <Dracari> | abrotman: i think it was you who suggested that shell script to me ealier. |
| 22:58 | <Dracari> | it fails with an error |
| 22:59 | <abrotman> | Dracari: howdid you copy the script ? |
| 22:59 | <Dracari> | copy/paste into a text editor and saved as an .sh file |
| 23:00 | <Dracari> | http://pastebin.org/64165 is the log, |
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| 23:00 | <abrotman> | you could just use wget ? |
| 23:00 | <abrotman> | wget -Ofoo.sh http://people.debian.org/~dannf/add-firmware-to/add-firmware-to |
| 23:00 | <Requia> | Ok... that produced new results at least, instead of being dumbed into the terminal or getting 'out of range' I get a blinking cursor and no response |
| 23:06 | <Requia> | test |
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| 23:13 | <Dracari> | ok abrotman that worked :3 |
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| 23:14 | <abrotman> | good |
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| 23:20 | <Dracari> | brb going to see if it boots |
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| 23:23 | <Requia> | On a second look, this isn't new behavior at all, its doing what it always did when I soecified fglrx as the driver in xorg.conf |
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| 23:27 | <Requia> | Here's a solution: whats the wget address for the netinstall iso? |
| 23:27 | <Requia> | this stuff always works better that way |
| 23:28 | <abrotman> | !netinst |
| 23:28 | <dpkg> | netinst is, like, a small CD image with which you can install Debian. If, during the installation process you have a working Internet connection, you can install more packages straight away, otherwise, you will have a base install and more packages later. See http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ See also <check iso image>, <dialup install>, <usb install>, <pppoe install>, <netboot>, <bf>, <installer>. |
| 23:28 | <Requia> | I need a direct download link |
| 23:29 | <Requia> | no browser and all that |
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| 23:33 | <jmarsden> | Requia: So wget http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ read the resulting file, find a link it in, wget that, and so on... |
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| 23:34 | <jmarsden> | Requia: BTW, why have you no browser? w3m and lynx both work fine from a shell prompt. aptitude install w3m # to install it. |
| 23:35 | <Requia> | w3m I hadn't heard of, lynx I brok previously |
| 23:36 | <jmarsden> | You broke it how? aptitude purge lynx && aptitude install lynx doesn't "unbreak" it? |
| 23:36 | <Requia> | It never worked in the first place, so i doubt it |
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| 23:38 | <jmarsden> | Requia: lynx has worked fine since before you were born, I expect... "it never worked in the first place"... ?? Either you broke it, or you didn't break it, it "never worked". Hard for both to be true at the same time. Anyway, just install a text mode web browser and use it. |
| 23:39 | <sney> | the mouse doesn't work! it must be broken |
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