| --- | Log | opened Fri Nov 27 00:00:10 2009 |
| --- | Day | changed Fri Nov 27 2009 |
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| 00:00 | <quinsha> | haiiiiiiiiiiiiiii |
| 00:00 | <quinsha> | ai.............................. |
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| 00:48 | <shadowlee> | how to set mysql for working mode local only without acces remote i take install lenny and mysql-server 5.0 |
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| 01:18 | <RobbieThe1st> | I'm having trouble with a harddisk-only-install - I have grub installed and working, a good vmlinuz and initrd.gz image, the installer boots... but cannot find my installer ISO image |
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| 01:18 | <RobbieThe1st> | dispite it being a known-good netinst iso image, and on the same partition as the boot files |
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| 01:22 | <jm_> | which kernel and vmlinuz? |
| 01:22 | <gsimmons> | RobbieThe1st: You are using "hd-media" vmlinuz and initrd.gz files? |
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| 01:22 | <jm_> | :) |
| 01:23 | <RobbieThe1st> | Yea, the ones from http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/ |
| 01:24 | <RobbieThe1st> | and my CD is the debian 5.03 netinst one. |
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| 01:26 | <gsimmons> | RobbieThe1st: Check the progress of the installer (Alt-F4), specifically output from "iso-scan". Note that only the root directory and first level of subdirectories are scanned for .iso/.ISO files. |
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| 01:28 | <RobbieThe1st> | Ok, thanks. Found the problem. Its an EXT4 partition, and it is only trying to mount it as ext 2/3 and failing |
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| 01:45 | <RobbieThe1st> | Ok, got the installer working properly. Now I'm getting this message "INFO: kbd-mode: setting console mode to Unicode(UTF-8)", it flashes on the screen for a sec, then disappears. |
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| 01:45 | <RobbieThe1st> | and keeps flashing |
| 01:46 | <RobbieThe1st> | oh, and it has a process number at the beginning of the message, that keeps incrementing by a few every message |
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| 01:47 | <browser> | I've got a really weird issue with X on debian unstable |
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| 01:47 | <browser> | it appears that I can connect with a client with authentication off, despite xhost telling me that authentication is on. |
| 01:47 | <browser> | no .Xauthority copied or anything. |
| 01:48 | <browser> | doing an strace of xmessage hello shows that the client says it has no auth avail and the server accepts it. |
| 01:48 | <browser> | any ideas? |
| 01:50 | <jocman> | asdasdasd |
| 01:50 | <shadowlee> | hi, how to stablish the mysql configuration in order to work local mode and not access remote |
| 01:51 | <sney> | #mysql |
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| 01:53 | <shadowlee> | yes |
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| 01:54 | <shadowlee> | thanks |
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| 02:17 | <amol> | hi to all, i have .dat file which is detected as a text file so i am not able to play it.any one can tell me how to play .dat file in debian |
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| 02:42 | <v4hid> | Hello My friends :) |
| 02:42 | <v4hid> | I'm V4HID, new debian user |
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| 02:42 | <v4hid> | i have a problem in "install php on apache2" |
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| 02:43 | <v4hid> | when i use "make" command, i get error for gcc header files |
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| 02:43 | <v4hid> | for example : In file included from /usr/include/netinet/in.h:24, |
| 02:43 | <v4hid> | from /usr/include/netdb.h:28, |
| 02:43 | <v4hid> | from /home/v4hid/Downloads/php-5.2.11/ext/mysql/php_mysql.c:60: |
| 02:43 | <v4hid> | /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.3.2/include/stdint.h:59: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before 'int8_t'" |
| 02:43 | <v4hid> | who can help me? |
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| 02:47 | <jm_> | are you using debian? |
| 02:48 | <gsimmons> | RobbieThe1st: Are you preseeding d-i, or supplying the bootkbd= boot option? |
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| 02:52 | <v4hid> | jm_ : yes |
| 02:52 | <v4hid> | jm_ : Linux debian 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Wed Aug 19 06:06:52 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 02:54 | <jm_> | v4hid: so use debian packages instead of compiling |
| 02:55 | <v4hid> | jm_: what package? |
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| 02:55 | <gsimmons> | dpkg: tell v4hid -about install php |
| 02:57 | <v4hid> | ok dears :) thanks ; i test this coammands :) BRB |
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| 03:13 | <royu> | I have question about pulseaudio |
| 03:13 | <royu> | when i type pulseaudio -D |
| 03:14 | <royu> | it's said that cannot set UID on session objext |
| 03:15 | <royu> | polkit-session.c 144 polkit_session_set _uid() : session !=NULL |
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| 03:15 | <royu> | Do you guys have any ideas for things to try? |
| 03:15 | <royu> | thanks in advance ! |
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| 03:22 | <Delano> | Hi... I'm a bit of a n00b, so please bear with me :op |
| 03:22 | <Delano> | I wanna get Lenny but with KDE instead of gnome |
| 03:23 | <Delano> | I'm a little confused at to what version of KDE the latest stable uses? |
| 03:23 | <jm_> | !info kdebase lenny |
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| 03:24 | <dpkg> | kdebase: (base components from the official KDE release), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6 (lenny), Packaged size: 37 kB, Installed size: 68 kB |
| 03:24 | <Delano> | also, I saw there's a live CD of Debian-KDE, but is it just a live CD or is it an installable system too |
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| 03:25 | <jm_> | don't think it's installable |
| 03:25 | <babilen> | Delano: There are CD/DVD images that contain all necessary packages to install KDE. But generally speaking: If you have internet access during the installation it makes much more sense to use a netinstall CD and install/download exactly what you want/need |
| 03:27 | <Delano> | babilen, yeah, but I live in South Africa, and my ISP is pretty shoddy |
| 03:28 | <Delano> | So getting a full .iso works out best |
| 03:28 | <Delano> | I'm an Ubuntu user, and I wanna move on |
| 03:29 | <babilen> | Delano: There are ISOs named 'debian-503-ARCH-kde-CD-1.iso' that contain everything you need to install the base system + KDE |
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| 03:29 | <Delano> | babilen, yeah, but I dunno if it has KDE3 or 4? |
| 03:29 | <Delano> | babilen, sorry if I sound dense |
| 03:30 | <babilen> | Delano: Debian contains 26.000+ packages though shipped on 5 DVDs ... Con |
| 03:31 | <babilen> | judd: versions kde |
| 03:31 | <judd> | babilen: kde -- etch: 5:47 lenny: 5:48 sid: 5:48 |
| 03:31 | <babilen> | install kdebase |
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| 03:31 | <jm_> | Delano: dpkg told you 7 minutes ago |
| 03:32 | <babilen> | judd: versions kdebase |
| 03:32 | <judd> | babilen: kdebase -- etch-security: 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-6etch1 etch: 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-6etch2 etch-backports: 4:3.5.7-4~bpo40+1 sid: 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-5 lenny: 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6 sid: 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6 experimental: 4:4.2.0-1 sid: 5:55 squeeze: 5:55 |
| 03:32 | <babilen> | jm_: Oh ... I overlooked that. |
| 03:32 | <Delano> | jm_, oh, sorry |
| 03:32 | <Delano> | I overlooked it too |
| 03:32 | <Delano> | soz |
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| 03:32 | <babilen> | Delano: Debian stable (lenny) comes with 3.5.9 |
| 03:33 | <Delano> | Hmm, I'm confused |
| 03:33 | <Delano> | dpkg listed 4:3 as being in Lenny? |
| 03:34 | <babilen> | Delano: No, it is 3.5.9 - I am not sure though what the '4:' refers to. |
| 03:35 | <jm_> | 4: is epoch |
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| 03:37 | <Delano> | Okay |
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| 03:41 | <Delano> | Can I install KDE4 on Lenny? |
| 03:42 | <ZeZu> | its possible |
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| 03:42 | <ZeZu> | probably easily do-able, |
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| 03:43 | <azeem_> | AFAIK there is no official backport |
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| 03:43 | <ZeZu> | dpkg: tell Delano -about pinning |
| 03:43 | <jm_> | w!kde4 lenny |
| 03:43 | <jm_> | !kde4 lenny |
| 03:43 | <jm_> | blah |
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| 03:44 | <Delano> | Thanks |
| 03:44 | <jm_> | !kde4 |
| 03:44 | <dpkg> | extra, extra, read all about it, kde 4 is the version of <KDE> that you will find in Squeeze. Because KDE 4 is so new, you might get more assistance in #debian-kde on irc.oftc.net. Backports of older versions for lenny are available from http://kde4.debian.net/ |
| 03:44 | <jm_> | see the web page for instructions |
| 03:45 | <Delano> | Thanks |
| 03:45 | <DebZhila> | I seem to be having difficulty with wireless-tools, seems after a few hours it will loose association with the access point, but will not attempt to reassociate, even though I've disabled power management via iwconfig |
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| 03:59 | <Honksu> | Does anyone know good program for network monitoring (monitoring by: IP address, mac address, ability to view which ports are tried to reach) by mirroring all packets going to internet to a "surveilance" machine. |
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| 04:00 | <nepster> | Honksu: try ntop |
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| 04:01 | <jones-> | Hi. |
| 04:01 | <jones-> | Can I have two Source: in a debian/control? |
| 04:01 | <azeem_> | jones-: what are you trying to do? |
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| 04:02 | <nepster> | jones-: yes, wot r u trying to do? |
| 04:02 | <jones-> | azeem: resolve a cyclic dependency. |
| 04:02 | <jones-> | I tried putting one more Source section, but I end up with this error: |
| 04:02 | <azeem> | then maybe explain your problem |
| 04:02 | <jones-> | dpkg-gencontrol: error: per-package paragraph 1 in control info file is missing Package line |
| 04:02 | <azeem> | putting another Source section is not a solution |
| 04:03 | <nepster> | DebZhila: do you have enough signal streangth? |
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| 04:04 | <jones-> | azeem: I tried to write down the dependency tree but it's a mess :) |
| 04:04 | <DebZhila> | nepster: usually around 45%-55% (mostly due to a bad antenna) |
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| 04:05 | <DebZhila> | nepster: I've noticed by reading the iwevent log that occasionally I will get disassociated, but it immediately reassociates without me even noticing, it's only when I leave for more than 6 hours or so |
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| 04:07 | <jones-> | azeem: basically is a -> b -> c -> a. I would solve it if I broke a -> b by using a separate Source package. |
| 04:07 | <jones-> | azeem: but I'm at a halt with the syntax, I think. |
| 04:07 | <jones-> | s/is/it is |
| 04:08 | <azeem> | I don't understand the problem |
| 04:08 | <jones-> | So it would be a -> d and b -> c -> a -> d. |
| 04:08 | <azeem> | do you have problems installing the .debs? If so, what is the error message |
| 04:08 | <jones-> | azeem: cyclic dependency. |
| 04:08 | <azeem> | so? |
| 04:08 | <azeem> | there's tons of cyclic dependencies in Debian |
| 04:08 | <jones-> | azeem: I'm having trouble building my debs. |
| 04:08 | <azeem> | so explain the problem |
| 04:09 | <nepster> | DebZhila: Are you in a wireless congested environment? |
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| 04:09 | <jones-> | azeem: the problem is that I can't build a because it depends on c which depends on a. |
| 04:09 | <azeem> | which programming language is a and c in? |
| 04:09 | <jones-> | C. |
| 04:09 | <jones-> | why does it even matter... |
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| 04:10 | <azeem> | it's more difficult if c is a compiler and a a runtime |
| 04:10 | <jones-> | It's nothing like that. |
| 04:10 | <azeem> | if everything is c, then the standard procedure is to build a at least minimally so that it can build c; then build a full; then c |
| 04:10 | <nepster> | DebZhila: The problem with aps are, in a crowded environment, if some one connects in a lower signal, it automatically drops down the strength of others to that level. |
| 04:10 | <azeem> | then make .debs |
| 04:10 | <RobbieThe1st> | Quick question: I just loaded a driver for my network card via modprobe, how do I have it look for network cards? |
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| 04:11 | <jones-> | azeem: that's a workaround. The fix is to break the cyclic dependecy by splitting a into two packages. |
| 04:11 | <azeem> | is a and c built from the same source package? |
| 04:11 | <jones-> | azeem: no. a and b are. |
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| 04:12 | <azeem> | what exactly does c need from a and vice-versa? |
| 04:12 | <nepster> | DebZhila: that's why nw in most of the Europian and US regions, they are moving from AP technology to managed wireless solutions |
| 04:13 | <jones-> | azeem: let a1, a2 be packages in a. a1 -> a -> c -> a. If I split using another source package called b, I can have: a1 -> b -> c -> a = no cycle. |
| 04:13 | <azeem> | look |
| 04:13 | <azeem> | a -> b is not very detailed |
| 04:13 | <azeem> | does it use a symbol? |
| 04:13 | <azeem> | does it dlopen() things? |
| 04:14 | <azeem> | are a, b, c applications or libraries? |
| 04:14 | <jones-> | All libraries. |
| 04:14 | <jones-> | No dlopening involved. |
| 04:15 | <azeem> | so to build the library, all you need are the headers, no? |
| 04:15 | <jones-> | So you said in the beginning that I can have multiple source packages in the same control file? |
| 04:15 | <azeem> | I said no such thing |
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| 04:16 | <FortyTwo> | Hello |
| 04:16 | <jones-> | azeem: right sorry, it wasn't you. |
| 04:16 | <FortyTwo> | So, I'm right here? I have a problem with a proftpd server. |
| 04:17 | <jones-> | azeem: yeah you just need the headers. But we're doing dpkg -i here, so debian dependencies count. |
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| 04:17 | <FortyTwo> | Ah, I see, how to get help in my problem? |
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| 04:18 | <azeem> | jones-: right, but obviously bootstrapping is needed |
| 04:18 | <azeem> | except it's trivial for the case of C libraries |
| 04:18 | <jones-> | azeem: not if I split the sources. I was looking for a way of not having a new source tree, that's all. |
| 04:18 | <azeem> | even more so if you don't ship a static library in c'd -dev package, then you can have it headers only and Arch: all |
| 04:18 | <FortyTwo> | hmm, so i have to go, somebody is able to give me a tip, where i can get help in my problem with proftpd? |
| 04:19 | <azeem> | jones-: I don't understand why splitting sources would help, sorry |
| 04:19 | <DebZhila> | nepster: well, here, only 5 deviced are associated to the AP dedicated, with another 5 devices occasionally/rarely associating, and my other PC running Windows 7 never seems to remain disassociated (though, I'm not sure if it ever disassociates in the first place... no logs to tell me) |
| 04:19 | <jones-> | Because we're not talking about a dependency like a-b-a. It's a-b-c-a. So if I break a-b it will work. |
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| 04:20 | <jones-> | I'd break a-b by introducing d. So a-d and b-c-a. |
| 04:21 | <jones-> | It's easy by splitting the source and create new tree, but it would've been cool if I could do it in debian/control. |
| 04:21 | <FortyTwo> | is somebody hearing me? |
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| 04:24 | <RobbieThe1st> | Ok, I have a problem: I'm running Debian Woody, and I need to setup a network card. The card I have is a PCMCIA card, a 3com 3C589D-TP... what do I do? |
| 04:24 | <azeem> | jones-: as I said, you don't need to break it |
| 04:24 | <azeem> | it's a standard problem |
| 04:25 | <azeem> | (and I still don't understand why it would help or what d would be) |
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| 04:27 | <jones-> | azeem: so Source:a has Package:a1 and Package:a2, both depending on a. a1 depends on b (so far a1-b). Also, b depends on a2. So b->a2. So when building a it goes like: Building a1... wait, depends on b! Let's build b first. Wait, depends on a2! Let's build a first. AAAAARGH LOOP! |
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| 04:29 | <azeem> | what do you mean with "both depending on a" |
| 04:29 | <azeem> | also, are you talking about binary or source depends |
| 04:29 | <faheem> | OT python question: what is wrong with the following expression? - os.system("python init_db.py -n %s"%adb) and (print "error"; sys.exit()) |
| 04:30 | <faheem> | assuming the system expression returns false, i want a print and then an exit. |
| 04:30 | <jones-> | azeem: source depends when I talk about a1,a2-a, binary when talking about b-a*. |
| 04:31 | <faheem> | RobbieThe1st: woody is really old. are you really running it? |
| 04:32 | <azeem> | I gotta go now, sorry |
| 04:32 | <jones-> | azeem: that's ok, thanks anyway. |
| 04:32 | <faheem> | RobbieThe1st: if woody doesn't detect it, then you'll have to load the driver manually, assuming it is present in the kernel |
| 04:32 | <RobbieThe1st> | Oh, um, sorry |
| 04:32 | <RobbieThe1st> | I'm running lenny |
| 04:33 | <RobbieThe1st> | Debian 5.03 |
| 04:33 | <faheem> | RobbieThe1st: the installer would normally detect network cards automatically |
| 04:33 | <faheem> | do you actually have a problem? |
| 04:34 | <faheem> | or did you replace the card after install? |
| 04:34 | <RobbieThe1st> | Normally, it would. This is an ancient laptop(90mhz p1, 32-megs of ram), and I would run out of memory if I enabled the network card modules during install |
| 04:35 | <locklace> | faheem: it's wrong on many levels |
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| 04:35 | <RobbieThe1st> | faheem: So, while I have a working system, and netinst ISO availaible on disk, I have no network connection setup |
| 04:36 | <RobbieThe1st> | faheem: I'm pretty sure its possible to get working; I had it working once during install, but it kept running out of memory and getting into a loop trying to free enough to continue |
| 04:38 | <faheem> | RobbieThe1st: why not just add more memory |
| 04:38 | <faheem> | 32 mb is pretty minimal |
| 04:38 | <RobbieThe1st> | Because I got it for free; I don't think it even supports more than 48 or 64, and I'm not willing to spend any money on it |
| 04:39 | <RobbieThe1st> | I only want this machine to have PHP installed and a network connection; I have some scripts I want it to be able to run for me |
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| 04:43 | <RobbieThe1st> | But, anyway, I have no clue about networking; My previous experiance has been with Ubuntu, everything -just works- right from the box. |
| 04:44 | <locklace> | !flw |
| 04:44 | <dpkg> | <spldart> been overclocking for years <pipeline> spldart: You've probably been an idiot since birth. The length of time involved isn't really the point. < spldart> this machine is 24/7 overclock for 3 years |
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| 04:50 | <speare> | kanena ellinas edo? |
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| 04:58 | <DebZhila> | RobbieThelst: if I understand you, you say you can detect the network, but then run out of memory setting it up? |
| 05:01 | <RobbieThe1st> | Back when I was installing debian, if I enabled the driver modules, it would detect my card, and the network(dhcp-enabled), but then later end up running out of memory |
| 05:01 | <RobbieThe1st> | where I am at right now is that I have a working debian install, but no auto-configured network setup |
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| 05:02 | <RobbieThe1st> | so, what I need to know is how to find if my device is properly found, how to get drivers installed, and how to configure it |
| 05:04 | <DebZhila> | RobbieThelst: run expert mode setup (type expert at the isolinux boot prompt), go through the steps to configure your network card, then skip strait to the step labeled somethink akin to "Download additional installer components" then look for something along the lines of "low memory" or "free memory" or something |
| 05:05 | <DebZhila> | this will then add an extra step near the end which, when selected, will free up memory each time it's selected |
| 05:05 | <RobbieThe1st> | It was in that mode from the beginning |
| 05:06 | <RobbieThe1st> | and had "low memory mode" up in the upper left hand corner |
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| 05:07 | <DebZhila> | oh.... |
| 05:07 | <DebZhila> | hmm... |
| 05:07 | <DebZhila> | only three things I can think of.... |
| 05:08 | <RobbieThe1st> | There may be a way to get it to work, but at this point, I already have a working install; I just want to get it installed manually |
| 05:08 | <RobbieThe1st> | It shouldn't be that big of a deal |
| 05:08 | <DebZhila> | oh... |
| 05:08 | <DebZhila> | you could do what I did |
| 05:08 | <DebZhila> | saying it's non-trivial is an understatement though |
| 05:09 | <DebZhila> | I couldn't install debian because of firmware issues with my network card, so I got a working knoppix install, then installed debootstrap |
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| 05:09 | <DebZhila> | debootstrap will install the bare minimal debian userland |
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| 05:10 | <DebZhila> | you then chroot in, install other things (mainly a linux image and grub) make sure you have everything you need installed and configured, then reboot the system |
| 05:10 | <DebZhila> | oh, wait |
| 05:10 | <RobbieThe1st> | Well, that I have. I had to go through a little bit more than that(no CD, broken floppy), but I have a CD ISO installed on this setup here |
| 05:10 | <DebZhila> | never mind |
| 05:10 | <DebZhila> | you are talking about the driver... |
| 05:10 | <RobbieThe1st> | Yea |
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| 05:11 | <DebZhila> | do you have PCMCIA services started? (not sure how to do that, but I've noticed that question from time to time |
| 05:11 | <RobbieThe1st> | I have no clue; they may not even be installed |
| 05:11 | <DebZhila> | !pcmcia |
| 05:11 | <dpkg> | PCMCIA is a hardware expansion technology for laptop computers. It stands for, "People Can't Memorize Computer Industry Acronyms". Ask me about <pcmcia cards>. Okay, okay, the real acronym can be found on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCMCIA Communication is similar to PCI or ISA, but a PCMCIA or CardBus bridge has a credit-card-sized form factor, and many cards are hot-pluggable. |
| 05:12 | <DebZhila> | !pcmcia cards |
| 05:12 | <dpkg> | PCMCIA cards allow you to add extra hardware functionality to an aging laptop computer. Typical uses include wireless or wired networking, modem, hard disk, memory expansion, USB port, etc. Ask me about <pcmcia> or see the wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCMCIA |
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| 05:12 | <DebZhila> | well that didn't help too much |
| 05:12 | <jerome> | hi there, is there anyway to achieve something like "apt-get build-dep FOO" for a source tarball containning a proper "debian/" directory ? Something like "cd FOO-source-tree" ; apt-get get build-dep . |
| 05:12 | <twb> | How can I make a graphviz .dot graph of only the packages I have installed? |
| 05:13 | <twb> | AFAICT apt-cache will happily create a 20,000-node graph when I only care about the 400 packages I'm actually using. |
| 05:14 | <DebZhila> | RobbieThelst: does lspci list any device which appears to be your network card? |
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| 05:15 | <RobbieThe1st> | lspci, for some odd reason -does not exist- |
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| 05:15 | <RobbieThe1st> | works on my main Ubuntu comp fine |
| 05:15 | <RobbieThe1st> | But on this one... "command not found" |
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| 05:16 | <RobbieThe1st> | same with sudo, for that matter. I was able to su to root though |
| 05:16 | <DebZhila> | I don't think I have a clue.... I've not dealt with PCMCIA in over 7 years |
| 05:16 | <RobbieThe1st> | I understand |
| 05:17 | <twb> | RobbieThe1st: lspci is an optional package. |
| 05:17 | <RobbieThe1st> | that explains it |
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| 05:17 | <RobbieThe1st> | What package is it part of? |
| 05:17 | <twb> | pciutils, IIRC. Ask apt-file |
| 05:17 | <gsimmons> | RobbieThe1st: And it won't help you for 16-bit PCMCIA devices, use pccardctl instead. |
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| 06:03 | <ekv> | Hello. |
| 06:03 | <ekv> | I have Acer with Intel Celeron 64-bits, and im wondering which cd-image i should download to install debian on my computer |
| 06:03 | <petemc> | amd64 if you want 64bit |
| 06:04 | <ekv> | Ok. I wondered that, since there is other 64bit versions too. |
| 06:04 | <twb> | ekv: your hardware supports "amd64" and "i386". The former is better. |
| 06:04 | <ekv> | I thought IA64 is for intel, but its better to ask than just assume :) |
| 06:04 | <petemc> | it sure is |
| 06:04 | <ekv> | twb, is i386 64bits? |
| 06:04 | <twb> | ekv: no. |
| 06:04 | <OdyX> | !ia64 |
| 06:04 | <dpkg> | [ia64][ia64] (Intel Architecture-64), a 64-bit processor architecture developed in cooperation by Intel and Hewlett-Packard, implemented by processors such as Itanium and Itanium 2. The goal of Itanium was to produce a "post-RISC era" arch using EPIC. See http://www.debian.org/ports/ia64/ -- if your CPU is opteron/athlon64/turion/sempron/xeon/em64t/pentium/core2duo/core*, then it is NOT ia64, it's <amd64>. |
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| 06:05 | <ekv> | Ok, ill take amd64 since i need 64bit system. |
| 06:05 | <ekv> | Thanks folks. |
| 06:06 | <jm_> | how long before he comes back asking how to run 32bit stuff? |
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| 06:07 | <ekv> | Might take while, since im doing it all the time with 64bit ubuntu ;) |
| 06:07 | <jm_> | good |
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| 06:08 | <EmleyMoor> | Is there a way to cause a specific user's default sound card to change depending on the presence of a USB sound card? |
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| 06:09 | <jm_> | EmleyMoor: udev |
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| 06:09 | <jm_> | although you'd probably want to run this as user, hmm |
| 06:10 | <OdyX> | EmleyMoor: afaik you can do this in KDE… |
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| 06:10 | <jm_> | probably hal |
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| 06:10 | <jm_> | or whatever the current crap is |
| 06:11 | <EmleyMoor> | OdyX: Hmmm... gnome here |
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| 06:14 | * | EmleyMoor will research the issue a bit more... |
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| 06:15 | <OdyX> | isn't there a UsbSoundCardUserHandlingKit ? |
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| 06:20 | <antary> | hi, guys. i install debian lenny and want to upgrade my iceweasel to 3.5 version. Can anybody give me nice experimental repo for aptitude? |
| 06:20 | <twb> | OdyX: you forgot the .py |
| 06:21 | <antary> | and sorry , my english is non-good |
| 06:21 | <OdyX> | twb: damn… |
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| 06:21 | <OdyX> | !tell antary about backports |
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| 06:22 | <jm_> | antary: no such thing I believe |
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| 06:22 | <OdyX> | wee no iceweasel backport |
| 06:23 | <jm_> | i backport it myself |
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| 06:24 | <EmleyMoor> | Hmmm... best way is to fix my sound to the audio device and set his to "Autodetect" - and then make some kind of change to make the USB "default" |
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| 06:36 | <EmleyMoor> | Not finding it easy to find a way :-( |
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| 06:41 | <EmleyMoor> | I just want this thing to be default regardless of port |
| 06:43 | <EmleyMoor> | Ah... interesting - may have found a recipe |
| 06:44 | <jm_> | it's easy to set the default for alsa, but I don't know ho wto do this as user |
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| 06:45 | <EmleyMoor> | jm_: If I set mine to non-default so that it uses the onboard unless otherwise specified, then making alsa default to the USB if present would work |
| 06:47 | <jm_> | EmleyMoor: I don't think you can make it to work like "use this if present" |
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| 06:48 | <EmleyMoor> | I'm just working on a hal/dbus solution to the problem... |
| 06:48 | <jm_> | right, that's possible |
| 06:48 | <jm_> | via notifications |
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| 06:51 | <Txt_file> | I tried to install syscp on Debian/lenny/i386 but I can't find the php mysql-extension. It always says that "Testing if PHP MySQL-extension is installed... not installed!" |
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| 06:51 | <jm_> | php5-mysql - MySQL module for php5 |
| 06:53 | <Txt_file> | this is installed |
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| 06:56 | <cyres> | hi |
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| 07:00 | <jm_> | so check how it's testing then |
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| 07:05 | <herve> | hello |
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| 07:07 | <herve> | i have a problem with logrotate and apache2 virtualhost custom logs (they don't rotate while the regular logs in the same directory do) where can i find how to track that problem down ? |
| 07:08 | <jm_> | herve: where are your logs ? |
| 07:09 | <Tenguch> | isn't it that some are named "toto.log" and the other "titi" ? |
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| 07:10 | <jm_> | apache2 logrotate config expects them to match /var/log/apache2/*.log |
| 07:10 | <herve> | they do |
| 07:10 | <jm_> | so if it doesn't match them you need to provide your own logrotate config or rename them |
| 07:11 | <herve> | they are in /var/log/apache2 |
| 07:11 | <Tenguch> | :) |
| 07:11 | <Tenguch> | herve: with ".log" suffix ? |
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| 07:11 | <herve> | yes |
| 07:11 | <herve> | mysite.com.log or othersite_com.log |
| 07:11 | <Tenguch> | Oo |
| 07:12 | <jm_> | use logrotate -d |
| 07:12 | <herve> | they have same perms |
| 07:12 | <herve> | ok |
| 07:12 | <jm_> | logrotate -d /etc/logrotate.d/apache2 |
| 07:13 | <jm_> | also note that they have "weekly" set |
| 07:13 | <herve> | well i would have start by that it screams : log does not need rotating |
| 07:13 | <jm_> | right see above |
| 07:13 | <herve> | i replace weekly by daily |
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| 07:13 | <herve> | but it should |
| 07:15 | <jm_> | check /var/lib/logrotate/status |
| 07:15 | <herve> | status : "/var/log/apache2/carosserie-billaud_com.log" 2009-11-27 |
| 07:15 | <herve> | /var/log/apache2/*.log { |
| 07:15 | <herve> | daily |
| 07:15 | <herve> | missingok |
| 07:15 | <herve> | rotate 1 |
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| 07:15 | <jm_> | so it was rotated today |
| 07:16 | <herve> | but there is no .log.1 and the file is not empty |
| 07:16 | <Tenguch> | mmm.. no minimal size limit in logrotate config ? |
| 07:16 | <Tenguch> | cannot remember how's the original one |
| 07:16 | <herve> | oh |
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| 07:17 | <jm_> | no such thing in defaults |
| 07:17 | <EmleyMoor> | How do I see what a shell script is doing? (and where it is finishing) |
| 07:17 | <Tenguch> | jm_: ok. wasn't sure about that :) |
| 07:17 | <jm_> | EmleyMoor: add "set -x" as 2nd line |
| 07:17 | <petemc> | EmleyMoor: -x |
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| 07:20 | <jm_> | note that running logrotate -d will not rotate files anyway |
| 07:21 | <herve> | i used -d -f |
| 07:21 | <herve> | renaming /var/log/apache2/carosserie-billaud_com.log to /var/log/apache2/carosserie-billaud_com.log.1 |
| 07:21 | <herve> | creating new log mode = 0640 uid = 0 gid = 4 |
| 07:21 | <herve> | but no files changed :-( |
| 07:22 | <jm_> | now try it it without -d |
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| 07:23 | <herve> | they have rotated - mystery |
| 07:24 | <jm_> | it will probably work OK now |
| 07:24 | <herve> | ok thanks, what could have happened ? |
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| 07:25 | <jm_> | hmm can't say, it would probably require to track changes to its state file |
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| 07:25 | <peej> | is there a more sensible way to check if something is installed than this?: dpkg -s <PACKAGE> | grep "^Status: install" |
| 07:26 | <herve> | ok i'll check that if it do not rotate the night |
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| 07:27 | <dli> | peej, dpkg -l foo |
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| 07:30 | <peej> | I want to have a return value in $? that lets me know if the package is installed or not. (I get that with grepping my suggestion, unsure how I would do it with -l ) |
| 07:30 | <EmleyMoor> | No good :-( |
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| 07:31 | <markus_> | hallo |
| 07:32 | <EmleyMoor> | I can't work out where the bug is in the script but it's echoing to stdout where it should go to a file |
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| 07:32 | <azeem> | jones-: did you figure it out? |
| 07:32 | <markus_> | hallo ich denke ihr habt alle ein wenig ahnung von xubuntu |
| 07:32 | <azeem> | markus_: please go to #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net |
| 07:33 | <azeem> | or some more xubuntu specific channel |
| 07:33 | <markus_> | ok danke schönen tag noch |
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| 07:33 | <jm_> | try putting the script on pastebin |
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| 07:34 | <EmleyMoor> | Half the problem is the line breaks in the script are not clear |
| 07:34 | <EmleyMoor> | I will post both scriptn |
| 07:34 | <EmleyMoor> | s |
| 07:34 | <jones-> | azeem: no. I'm splitting the source. |
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| 07:35 | <tonguim> | Hi all |
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| 07:36 | <tonguim> | Please what is the difference between the concept of "job control" and the one of "scheduler"? |
| 07:36 | <azeem> | jones-: you know you can build arch-independent packages seperate from dependent ones? |
| 07:37 | <EmleyMoor> | Ah, hold on... will try them again and come back if still no go |
| 07:37 | <azeem> | jones-: and are you splitting the source or duplicating it? |
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| 07:39 | <jm_> | tonguim: job control is something shell is doing for you |
| 07:40 | <jones-> | azeem: splitting only, of course. |
| 07:40 | <jones-> | azeem: yes, but these are all arch dependant. |
| 07:40 | <azeem> | 10:18 < azeem> even more so if you don't ship a static library in c'd -dev package, then you can have it headers only and Arch: all |
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| 07:41 | <jones-> | azeem: oh, right. I have Arch: any. |
| 07:41 | <azeem> | is this supposed to be uploaded to Debian? |
| 07:42 | <jones-> | azeem: no. |
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| 07:43 | <tonguim> | jm_: i'm refering the job control that can move a process from foreground to background |
| 07:43 | <azeem> | then I don't understand the issue at all, unless you have some company policy that all .debs need to be built on some self-contained autobuilder or something |
| 07:43 | <jones-> | azeem: I agree. I suspect our build robot is just crap. |
| 07:43 | <azeem> | can you feed it a .deb for Build-Depends? |
| 07:44 | <tonguim> | jm_: i thought the management of processes was the duty of the scheduler |
| 07:44 | <jones-> | azeem: I honestly don't know. It will take me less than an hour to split the sources, it'll work and everybody will be happy :) |
| 07:44 | <azeem> | it's just wrong thoguh |
| 07:44 | <azeem> | but whatever |
| 07:44 | <jones-> | I know... thanks for helping :) |
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| 07:45 | <petemc> | 34 |
| 07:45 | <jm_> | tonguim: yes, but there are things like SIGSTOP etc. which shell is doing |
| 07:47 | <tonguim> | jm_: thanks for explanations; but i'm still confused |
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| 07:55 | <EmleyMoor> | Phew, sorted. It was line breaks amiss |
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| 08:08 | <EmleyMoor> | Sadly it seems to have killed sound completely |
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| 08:12 | <EmleyMoor> | Other than http://gleamynode.net/articles/1508/, any way to cause a change of default sound card on plugging in a USB audio device? |
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| 08:25 | <twb> | EmleyMoor: are you using alsa, oss4, or what? |
| 08:25 | <EmleyMoor> | alsa |
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| 09:03 | <cq> | hello, I just installed testing but there was no network, now I have a minimal system and a minimal sources.list ... what's the best way to get the rest of the installation? manually edit sources.list, or can I rerun package selection? |
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| 09:05 | <Z3r0> | hey guys |
| 09:06 | <Z3r0> | good afternoon to ya |
| 09:06 | <Z3r0> | does any1 here know why my wireless card (broadcom b43) cant get to connect to channel 13? |
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| 09:25 | <tonguim> | I've this: export PS1="\e[0;32m[\u@\h \W]\$ \e[m ". Please, how can i have the bold thext after the prompt in bold? Thanks |
| 09:26 | <Slash[GnR]> | hi... i installed debian but i have no access to the internet because i use a usb wifi (the card was detected fine) and the network manager is not installed... what can i do? |
| 09:26 | -!- | Guest236 is now known as dcraig |
| 09:27 | <dr|z3d> | Slash[GnR]: try > aptitude install wicd |
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| 09:27 | <dr|z3d> | Although, without net access that might prove problematic. |
| 09:28 | <twb> | How can I make wpa_supplicant's CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS loop use exponential backoff? |
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| 09:28 | <twb> | It's running every five seconds and filling up my /var/log filesystem |
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| 09:28 | <Slash[GnR]> | it says it cant find the package |
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| 09:44 | <Sebastinas> | Hi. I've upgraded grub-pc to 1.97+20091125-1 yesterday. My PC now doesn't boot anymore. update-grub produces menuentries with /boot/vmlinuz... whereas it should only be /vmlinuz since I've got a separate partition for /boot. |
| 09:44 | <Sebastinas> | Is it a bug in grub-pc or is my config messed up? |
| 09:45 | <azeem> | Sebastinas: see the bug reports |
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| 09:47 | <hamcheung> | ^_^ |
| 09:47 | * | twb continues to hug extlinux |
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| 09:48 | <twb> | http://hpaste.org/fastcgi/hpaste.fcgi/view?id=13260 explains how I do so. |
| 09:49 | <gsimmons> | twb: Is your wpasupplicant issue the same as Debian bug #539915? |
| 09:50 | <twb> | Looking... |
| 09:50 | <twb> | gsimmons: yep, thanks |
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| 09:51 | <twb> | That bug seems to say that wpa_cli needs them, though... |
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| 09:51 | <twb> | (Which is strange, because until twenty minutes ago, I had no syslogd, and wpa_cli has worked for months.) |
| 09:52 | <twb> | OTOH, while the logging is the annoying part, I still think purely from a design point of view exponential backoff would be a better idea. |
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| 09:57 | <Sebastinas> | azeem: Any hints on which one could apply for me? Couldn't find anything. |
| 09:59 | <azeem> | Sebastinas: #558042 |
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| 10:03 | <Sebastinas> | azeem: Oh, thank's. Just been browsing through the bugs of grub-pc. |
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| 10:36 | <rovanion> | I'd like some help troubleshooting a laptop that does not wake up after sleep |
| 10:37 | <rovanion> | Is there anyone in here who can be my guide? |
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| 10:47 | <hugo> | alguien |
| 10:47 | <hugo> | de colombia |
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| 10:56 | <locklace> | !qotd0 |
| 10:56 | <dpkg> | <peterS> abrotman: I can't click the link at the moment actually. one of my balls has gone missing |
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| 10:58 | <neil> | / #debian-br |
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| 10:58 | <neil> | #debian-br |
| 10:58 | -!- | neil is now known as Guest250 |
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| 11:12 | <davi> | What packages to 'pin' to upgrade to sid (kernel, mesa, xorg) but keep using the KDE 3.5 of Lenny? |
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| 11:16 | <milo> | is there anyone that can help me with my networking problem |
| 11:17 | <petemc> | if you're using debian, just ask |
| 11:17 | <milo> | http://pastebin.com/m7a5f1099 |
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| 11:17 | <milo> | well that is what it tells me when i try to configure my wireless in the interfaces file |
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| 11:19 | <petemc> | you might want to pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces as well |
| 11:20 | <milo> | k one sec |
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| 11:24 | <milo> | ok i got the interfaces http://pastebin.com/m7fde7c6d |
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| 11:25 | <gsimmons> | milo: What version of Debian are you using? |
| 11:26 | <milo> | well im not using debian im using ubuntu but i do no there the same |
| 11:26 | <milo> | and its the latest ubuntu |
| 11:26 | <locklace> | !ubuntu |
| 11:26 | <dpkg> | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
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| 11:28 | <milo> | so any ideas why its not working |
| 11:28 | <petemc> | install debian and try again |
| 11:28 | <milo> | funny |
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| 11:29 | <milo> | ubuntu is debian just more public |
| 11:29 | <koollman> | milo: no it's not. |
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| 11:29 | <milo> | well ubuntu uses all debian packages just most of them have been tweaked |
| 11:30 | <petemc> | honestly, do you think you're the first person to come here and say that? |
| 11:30 | <petemc> | they arent the same, and its not supported here |
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| 11:30 | <milo> | no and the person that told me that was my uncle that has used debian for over 20 years |
| 11:31 | <petemc> | time traveller is he? |
| 11:31 | <Guest250> | To disable autorun in pendrives, cdroon in system lenny, what I need to do ? |
| 11:31 | <cahoot> | is there a such in linux? |
| 11:32 | <milo> | petemc your an ass and they are the same wheather you like it or not all linuxes are the same and the same file systems and base commands |
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| 11:36 | <aquarat> | wow |
| 11:36 | <aquarat> | this channel is popular |
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| 11:41 | <jpinx-eeepc> | aquarat: what's your debian issue?:) |
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| 11:42 | <aquarat> | um |
| 11:42 | <aquarat> | don't really have one at the moment |
| 11:42 | <aquarat> | well |
| 11:42 | <aquarat> | I do |
| 11:42 | <aquarat> | but I'm reasonably sure you won't be able to solve it :P |
| 11:42 | <aquarat> | I' |
| 11:42 | <aquarat> | I'm just watching at the moment... hanging around |
| 11:43 | <jpinx-eeepc> | aquarat: if you don't ask, we certainly will not be able to fix it ;) |
| 11:43 | <aquarat> | I have asked before and the folks here were helpful; they directed towards the debian lists |
| 11:43 | <aquarat> | but if you'd really like to know I'm trying to get Debian to run on a Sun Fire V890 |
| 11:44 | <jpinx-eeepc> | aquarat: fairysnuff :) you got good advice earlier ;) |
| 11:44 | <aquarat> | :D |
| 11:44 | * | aquarat nods wildly |
| 11:44 | <aquarat> | the people on the lists have been quite nice and very helpful |
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| 11:45 | <aquarat> | how big is your eeepc's SSD ? |
| 11:45 | <aquarat> | I have a 701 eeepc, I mainly use it for audio recording these days |
| 11:45 | <jpinx-eeepc> | aquarat: 4GBs SSD but i have an external hdd |
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| 11:46 | <aquarat> | mine's also 4GB |
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| 11:47 | <jpinx-eeepc> | aquarat: I'm considering getting a 901 to upgrade |
| 11:47 | <aquarat> | mmm |
| 11:47 | <aquarat> | why not a Lenovo IdeaPad S10e ? |
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| 11:47 | <aquarat> | ...I have two Lenovos, very happy with them |
| 11:48 | <aquarat> | a big one and a small one |
| 11:48 | <jpinx-eeepc> | aquarat: tbh because I *know* the eeepc's and they are so small - great for travelling |
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| 11:49 | <aquarat> | but the Ideapad s10 is also quite small ? |
| 11:49 | <aquarat> | I'll compare |
| 11:49 | <aquarat> | stby |
| 11:49 | <zeroXten> | heya. is there an open source centralised package/vulnerability manaegment system for debian? |
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| 11:50 | <Christop1> | this is test |
| 11:51 | <zeroXten> | success |
| 11:51 | <jpinx-eeepc> | !fail |
| 11:51 | <NamekTran> | hello |
| 11:51 | <NamekTran> | can someone help me install debian from usb |
| 11:51 | <Christop1> | bye |
| 11:51 | <jpinx-eeepc> | NamekTran: did you read the installation manual in debian.org ? It's all in there |
| 11:52 | <NamekTran> | yes |
| 11:52 | <zeroXten> | meh, i'll just write one shall I :) |
| 11:52 | <NamekTran> | but |
| 11:52 | <NamekTran> | when i try to boot from usb |
| 11:52 | <NamekTran> | it just show black screen |
| 11:53 | <Gaston_Lagaffe> | did you try unetbootin ? |
| 11:53 | <jpinx-eeepc> | NamekTran: what is on the usb stick? An installer? |
| 11:53 | <NamekTran> | uhm |
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| 11:53 | <NamekTran> | i have the boot.img.gz |
| 11:53 | <NamekTran> | then i just zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/sdb1 |
| 11:53 | <jpinx-eeepc> | NamekTran: you need an installer - go and read the installation manual |
| 11:54 | <NamekTran> | ok |
| 11:54 | <NamekTran> | i cant get into ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current/images |
| 11:55 | <jpinx-eeepc> | NamekTran: wtf do you want in there for? |
| 11:55 | <NamekTran> | uhm |
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| 11:55 | <NamekTran> | sry |
| 11:55 | <jpinx-eeepc> | sarge has not been supported for ages |
| 11:55 | <NamekTran> | oh |
| 11:55 | <NamekTran> | yesterday i downloaded debian-503-i386-netinst.iso |
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| 11:55 | <jpinx-eeepc> | NamekTran: go and read the installation manual |
| 11:55 | <the_hydra> | NamekTran, it's polite way to say it's near dead |
| 11:55 | <NamekTran> | is that a installer? |
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| 11:56 | <the_hydra> | NamekTran, iso image...burn it first |
| 11:56 | <the_hydra> | NamekTran, to a CD or DVD |
| 11:56 | <jpinx-eeepc> | NamekTran: ffs go and read the MANUAL |
| 11:56 | <NamekTran> | but i dont have a dvd drive its broken |
| 11:56 | <NamekTran> | okok |
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| 11:56 | <the_hydra> | NamekTran, if you just wanna test, I suggest to use programs like VMWare |
| 11:56 | <NamekTran> | noo i dont wanna test |
| 11:57 | <the_hydra> | ok... |
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| 11:57 | <the_hydra> | just giving you alternative... |
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| 11:57 | <NamekTran> | hehe |
| 11:57 | <the_hydra> | NamekTran, :) |
| 11:58 | <babilen> | NamekTran: Did you follow 4.3.3 as suggested yesterday? Does that change anything? Did you copy the iso on the stick? |
| 11:58 | <NamekTran> | yes |
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| 11:59 | <babilen> | NamekTran: Yes, it changed anything? |
| 11:59 | <NamekTran> | noo |
| 11:59 | <NamekTran> | it still doesnt work |
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| 11:59 | <jpinx-eeepc> | NamekTran: how did you copy it? |
| 12:00 | <NamekTran> | the iso |
| 12:00 | <NamekTran> | ? |
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| 12:00 | <babilen> | for example... |
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| 12:00 | <jpinx-eeepc> | NamekTran: what command did you use? |
| 12:00 | <NamekTran> | cp |
| 12:00 | <jpinx-eeepc> | NamekTran: no go and read the manual - |
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| 12:00 | <NamekTran> | ok |
| 12:00 | <jpinx-eeepc> | NamekTran: you are being a numpty - go and read the manua; |
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| 12:01 | <NamekTran> | i do now sry |
| 12:01 | <jpinx-eeepc> | babilen: it is getting more like #u in here every day :( |
| 12:02 | <NamekTran> | its say copy a Debian netinst or businesscard ISO image to it. Please note that the file name must end in .iso. Unmount the stick (umount /mnt) and you are done. |
| 12:03 | <NamekTran> | i did that |
| 12:03 | <jpinx-eeepc> | NamekTran: what url are you reading? |
| 12:03 | <NamekTran> | http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/i386/ch04s04.html.en |
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| 12:04 | <jpinx-eeepc> | NamekTran: go to http://debian.org and follow the links to "How to install" |
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| 12:04 | <NamekTran> | ok |
| 12:04 | <babilen> | jpinx-eeepc: yeah... :-( |
| 12:05 | <jpinx-eeepc> | NamekTran: I don't know where you got that link - but it is ANCIENT - sarge is dead and buried |
| 12:05 | <NamekTran> | uh |
| 12:05 | <jpinx-eeepc> | NamekTran: http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst |
| 12:06 | <NamekTran> | tx :) |
| 12:06 | <peej> | it would help you install sarge, but sarge is not debian-503-i386-netinst.iso |
| 12:07 | <jpinx-eeepc> | peej: I'm not into supporting anything other than lenny |
| 12:07 | <babilen> | NamekTran: CJ gave you the correct link yesterday " CJ NamekTran dont know if you looked at this but http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03" |
| 12:08 | <NamekTran> | ups |
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| 12:09 | <babilen> | NamekTran: And: "babilen Try 4.3.1 + 4.3.3 first and then 4.3.2" still applies. Good luck! |
| 12:09 | <NamekTran> | ok tx |
| 12:12 | <jpinx-eeepc> | babilen: it has to be said that the USB install is badly documented for newbies - it is not obvious at all as to what you need to download. |
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| 12:12 | <babilen> | jpinx-eeepc: That might be true, but following the documentation from the release you want to install might help a little :-D |
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| 12:13 | <jpinx-eeepc> | babilen: I'm doing it again from that link - taking a "no prior knowledge" approach - it is mighty confusing:( |
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| 12:13 | <NamekTran> | um how do i get Debian netinst |
| 12:14 | <MayskiyJuk> | NamekTran: how about to doenload it? |
| 12:14 | <EagleRock> | !tell NamekTran about netinst |
| 12:15 | <NamekTran> | tx |
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| 12:16 | <Gaston_Lagaffe> | hi, could you help for a compiz install please ? |
| 12:17 | <NamekTran> | uhm babilen do i just copy the debian-503-i386-netinst.iso to my usb |
| 12:17 | <babilen> | NamekTran: Have you completed 4.3.1? |
| 12:17 | <NamekTran> | uhm |
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| 12:17 | <NamekTran> | noo |
| 12:18 | <NamekTran> | its says copy a Debian netinst or businesscard ISO image to it |
| 12:18 | <NamekTran> | so i just copy it right |
| 12:18 | <babilen> | NamekTran: Ok, do that then. And if you don't want to create a big mess, check that the /dev/sdX is actually the USB stick. |
| 12:18 | <NamekTran> | i checked :) |
| 12:18 | <MayskiyJuk> | NamekTran: you should write this image |
| 12:19 | <NamekTran> | how |
| 12:19 | <babilen> | NamekTran: Insert your USB stick and paste the output of "dmesg | tail -n 20" |
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| 12:20 | <MayskiyJuk> | NamekTran: as I understand you need to write it on usb stick? |
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| 12:20 | <NamekTran> | how do i do that |
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| 12:20 | <babilen> | NamekTran: ... |
| 12:21 | <NamekTran> | yees |
| 12:21 | <babilen> | NamekTran: *Please* insert your USB stick and paste the output of "dmesg | tail -n 20" |
| 12:21 | <NamekTran> | ok |
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| 12:21 | <jpinx-eeepc> | NamekTran: the command you want is something like dd if=/downloaded/image.iso of=/usb/device |
| 12:21 | <fgh> | if i connect a mobile phone with a usb-cable, where could it show up in /dev/ ? |
| 12:22 | <jpinx-eeepc> | fgh: plug it in and look at dmesg to see if it was recognised |
| 12:22 | <NamekTran> | sdb: sdb1 |
| 12:23 | <jpinx-eeepc> | NamekTran: the command you want is dd if=/downloaded/image.iso of=/dev/sdb |
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| 12:23 | <NamekTran> | oh |
| 12:23 | <jpinx-eeepc> | NamekTran: note that it is sdb not sdb1 |
| 12:23 | <MayskiyJuk> | NamekTran: how about unetbootin ? |
| 12:23 | <babilen> | jpinx-eeepc: Copy the iso, or the contents? (as in cp fooBar.iso /mnt/stick/ or dd if=fooBar ..) |
| 12:23 | <gsimmons> | jpinx-eeepc: Uh, no. You zcat the "all-in-one" hd-media image to the USB device, then mount, then cp the .iso file. |
| 12:23 | <NamekTran> | ok |
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| 12:23 | <jpinx-eeepc> | ffs tmi |
| 12:23 | <babilen> | I think you have to copy the iso... |
| 12:23 | <NamekTran> | uuhhm confused |
| 12:24 | <jpinx-eeepc> | gsimmons: that is just confusing |
| 12:24 | <NamekTran> | do i just cp the iso file |
| 12:24 | <MayskiyJuk> | NamekTran: UNetbootin allows for the installation of various Linux/BSD distributions to a partition or USB drive, so it's no different from a standard install, only it doesn't need a CD. It can create a dual-boot install, or replace the existing OS entirely |
| 12:24 | <babilen> | NamekTran: Hang on... |
| 12:24 | <fgh> | jpinx-eeepc: could it be /dev/ttyACM0 ? |
| 12:24 | <jpinx-eeepc> | fgh: is it mounted? |
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| 12:24 | <jpinx-eeepc> | fgh: I mean - auto-mounted? |
| 12:24 | <NamekTran> | soo i just copy the iso right |
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| 12:25 | <jpinx-eeepc> | NamekTran: I gave you the command |
| 12:25 | <NamekTran> | ok |
| 12:25 | <gsimmons> | jpinx-eeepc: That is the procedure given in the Installation Guide (sections 4.3.1, 4.3.2). dd'ing a netinst ISO simply won't work. |
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| 12:25 | <fgh> | jpinx-eeepc: no, thats where i want to come |
| 12:25 | <jpinx-eeepc> | fgh: do fdisk -l |
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| 12:25 | <jpinx-eeepc> | babilen: I stand by what I said about usb install being hard for noobs :| |
| 12:25 | <fgh> | jpinx-eeepc: nope, just my hdd there |
| 12:25 | <nitz> | hi all :) |
| 12:26 | <jpinx-eeepc> | fgh: then it's not ecognised |
| 12:26 | <babilen> | jpinx-eeepc: So true... |
| 12:26 | <babilen> | NamekTran: Now run "wget http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/boot.img.gz" |
| 12:26 | <jpinx-eeepc> | babilen: wantto do a simple "howto" with me and I'll put it on the wiki? |
| 12:26 | <fgh> | jpinx-eeepc: but dmesg says: [ 9178.816223] usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 2 |
| 12:26 | <NamekTran> | ok |
| 12:27 | <babilen> | jpinx-eeepc: We can do that later, good idea though. |
| 12:27 | <jpinx-eeepc> | fgh: pastebin dmesg |
| 12:27 | <jpinx-eeepc> | babilen: sure - anytime |
| 12:27 | <NamekTran> | done |
| 12:27 | <fgh> | jpinx-eeepc: http://pastebin.com/d1be70779 |
| 12:28 | <babilen> | NamekTran: Is there anything on that stick that you might need? |
| 12:28 | <NamekTran> | nope |
| 12:28 | <NamekTran> | :) |
| 12:28 | <babilen> | NamekTran: Just checking :-) |
| 12:28 | <fgh> | jpinx-eeepc: (ive been reconnecting it a few times) |
| 12:28 | <babilen> | NamekTran: Now run: "zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/sdX |
| 12:28 | <babilen> | argh.. damn linebreak |
| 12:28 | <the_hydra> | as root.... |
| 12:28 | <babilen> | NamekTran: Now run: "zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/sdb" that is |
| 12:28 | <NamekTran> | ok |
| 12:29 | <babilen> | the_hydra: thanks :-) |
| 12:29 | <the_hydra> | babilen, welcome :) |
| 12:29 | <jpinx-eeepc> | fgh: yea - I see that - dunno that device type though |
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| 12:30 | <jpinx-eeepc> | fgh: I suggest you google that device type ACM - it's not one I've come across |
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| 12:30 | <NamekTran> | doone |
| 12:30 | <babilen> | NamekTran: great |
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| 12:30 | <fgh> | jpinx-eeepc: thank you for your time |
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| 12:31 | <jpinx-eeepc> | fgh: np - sorry I am not more expert |
| 12:31 | <NamekTran> | then i just mount my usb right |
| 12:31 | <babilen> | NamekTran: correct |
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| 12:31 | <babilen> | NamekTran: Then run "wget http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.3/i386/iso-cd/debian-503-i386-netinst.iso" |
| 12:32 | <NamekTran> | ok |
| 12:32 | <NamekTran> | uhm i cant mount my usb now |
| 12:32 | <NamekTran> | its says mount: you must specify the filesystem type |
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| 12:33 | <MayskiyJuk> | NamekTran: just use unebootin, it's will be enough |
| 12:33 | <NamekTran> | how do i do that >.< |
| 12:33 | <babilen> | NamekTran: run "mount /dev/sdb /mnt" same error? |
| 12:33 | <NamekTran> | no |
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| 12:33 | <NamekTran> | hehe :D |
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| 12:34 | <NamekTran> | now i just cp the iso file right |
| 12:34 | <babilen> | NamekTran: yes |
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| 12:35 | <NamekTran> | cp debian-503-i386-netinst.iso /mnt |
| 12:35 | <NamekTran> | like that |
| 12:35 | <NamekTran> | right |
| 12:35 | <babilen> | NamekTran: exactly |
| 12:35 | <NamekTran> | hehe :) |
| 12:35 | <babilen> | MayskiyJuk: He/She wants to install *from* USB and not create a bootable LIVE USB |
| 12:35 | <NamekTran> | doone |
| 12:35 | <NamekTran> | :) |
| 12:36 | <babilen> | NamekTran: You can try booting now .. If it is not working let us know |
| 12:36 | <NamekTran> | ok |
| 12:36 | <MayskiyJuk> | babilen: OK, soory for noise :) just trying to help |
| 12:36 | <NamekTran> | thank you so much babilen :) |
| 12:36 | <NamekTran> | :D |
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| 12:36 | <babilen> | NamekTran: you need to unmount the stick first |
| 12:36 | <babilen> | gone .... |
| 12:36 | * | babilen hopes it works out |
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| 12:37 | <sney> | if it doesn't he'll be back |
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| 12:41 | <jpinx-eeepc> | babilen: I /lastlog'd that for reference as a how to ;) |
| 12:41 | <babilen> | jpinx-eeepc: \o/ |
| 12:41 | <babilen> | jpinx-eeepc: The install-mbr might be necessary though... |
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| 12:42 | <jpinx-eeepc> | babilen: I'll edit it over a coffee and let you see.. |
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| 12:42 | <babilen> | I have actually never done a USB install before. I usually use the CD or use PXE |
| 12:42 | <babilen> | jpinx-eeepc: cool |
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| 12:42 | <MayskiyJuk> | babilen: not always there is cd drive |
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| 12:42 | <jpinx-eeepc> | babilen: I do usb install for the eeepc, but I haven't had to write the USB stick for over a year - so I've forgoten how |
| 12:43 | <MayskiyJuk> | me too, installed squeeze to msi wind |
| 12:43 | <babilen> | MayskiyJuk: As i said... If there is no cd/dvd drive I can usually boot of PXE and just tell the dhcp/tftp server to hand out the installer |
| 12:43 | <MayskiyJuk> | babilen: it's ok if you have high-speed internet connection :) |
| 12:44 | <babilen> | MayskiyJuk: No, I have the dhcp/tftp server working anyway to boot a couple of clients ... |
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| 12:45 | <MayskiyJuk> | babilen: :) |
| 12:45 | <nitz> | hey anyone can help me ? |
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| 12:46 | <MayskiyJuk> | nitz: just ask |
| 12:46 | <babilen> | MayskiyJuk: The installer images are in place too, so an installation usualy just boils down to "enter MAC address somewhere and choose image" |
| 12:46 | <EagleRock> | jpinx-eeepc: I recently installed to a netbook, and setting up to install linux from USB is just zcatting the hd image (boot.img.gz) to the device /dev/sdX and copying the netinst iso onto the flash drive after mounting it |
| 12:46 | * | babilen helps nitz |
| 12:46 | <babilen> | EagleRock: yes, still confusing for newbies |
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| 12:47 | <EagleRock> | babilen: of course, but I was just reminding him since he said he hadn't done it for a while |
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| 12:49 | <jpinx-eeepc> | EagleRock: yep - point taken :) |
| 12:49 | <MayskiyJuk> | EagleRock: if you installed debian one times there is no need to reinstall it foe years ;) you can forget the way you did it |
| 12:49 | <MayskiyJuk> | EagleRock: or write some how-to |
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| 12:50 | <EagleRock> | MayskiyJuk: you've said it...my old server that's still running today went all the way from woody to squeeze without a hitch |
| 12:50 | <MayskiyJuk> | EagleRock: congrats! |
| 12:51 | <EagleRock> | MayskiyJuk: thanks...I refuse to decommission it just on principle :-) |
| 12:51 | <sney> | I'm sure it's still plenty good enough for a fileserver |
| 12:51 | <sney> | what is it, P3? |
| 12:52 | <jpinx-eeepc> | EagleRock: funny - will it be the oldest continuous install of debian? |
| 12:52 | <MayskiyJuk> | mabe it something like 800-1000M CPU? |
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| 12:54 | <MayskiyJuk> | i have one like that dusted in the corner :) should i install there a copy of debian :-D ? |
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| 12:56 | <EagleRock> | MayskiyJuk: actually, it is an athlon 1700+...I started using it in late 2002 or so |
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| 12:57 | <MayskiyJuk> | EagleRock: I'm stilll using Athlon 2000+ as desktop |
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| 13:05 | <EagleRock> | MayskiyJuk: oh, that reminds me, I upgraded the CPU later on when a friend got rid of his, I'm actually using a 2000+ too |
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| 13:05 | <EagleRock> | it's a great machine...never gave me issues |
| 13:05 | <EagleRock> | except when I forgot to upgrade the kernel after I dist-upgraded udev :-/ |
| 13:06 | <MayskiyJuk> | EagleRock: they are not so fast but usable even nowadays |
| 13:06 | <MayskiyJuk> | I hate udev |
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| 13:07 | <EagleRock> | MayskiyJuk: yeah, well, it was my fault...dpkg even gave me the upgrade warning stating my kernel wasn't supported by the version of udev available, and I forgot to install the latest kernel at the time |
| 13:08 | <EagleRock> | nothing a rescue disk, a chroot, and apt-get didn't fix :-) |
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| 13:09 | <babilen> | grml ftw! |
| 13:09 | <MayskiyJuk> | babilen: hmm |
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| 13:10 | <mib_72lktn> | Hello |
| 13:10 | <MayskiyJuk> | mib_72lktn: hi |
| 13:10 | <babilen> | ciao! |
| 13:10 | <sney> | babilen: watch out, I almost did !it |
| 13:10 | <mib_72lktn> | Is some french here ? |
| 13:10 | <babilen> | sney: hehe |
| 13:11 | <MayskiyJuk> | babilen: russian? |
| 13:11 | <babilen> | !fr |
| 13:11 | <babilen> | dpkg: wb |
| 13:11 | <dpkg> | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net. |
| 13:11 | <dpkg> | thanks, babilen. It's good to be back. |
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| 13:12 | <babilen> | MayskiyJuk: Because of the nickname? (--> #debian-offtopic) |
| 13:12 | <faheem> | babilen: did dpkg go somewhere? |
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| 13:13 | <babilen> | faheem: dunno, just slow. What does 'wb' do anyway? |
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| 13:14 | <faheem> | babilen: apparently makes dpkg issue a "good to be back" message :-) |
| 13:15 | <babilen> | faheem: yes, i figured that out. Was not sure if there is not a little magic involved though. |
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| 13:18 | <faheem> | babilen: don't think so |
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| 13:19 | <faheem> | some crazy person seems to have added lots of this sort of stuff to the bot |
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| 13:20 | <babilen> | faheem: I see. I hoped that this was the "magic word" to restart the bot... But if it just prints the message: --> pretty useless |
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| 13:21 | <faheem> | babilen: do you have reason to believe there is something wrong with the bot? |
| 13:21 | <babilen> | faheem: no |
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| 13:22 | <babilen> | faheem: It was just a tad slow ... |
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| 13:27 | <themill> | dpkg, you're slow |
| 13:27 | <dpkg> | No, I'm not slow, I'm just overworked, underpaid, underappreciated and much maligned. Now STOP NAGGING ME!!1! |
| 13:28 | <jpinx-eeepc> | heh |
| 13:28 | <faheem> | dpkg has attitude |
| 13:28 | <dpkg> | faheem: i haven't a clue |
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| 13:29 | <faheem> | but i can relate |
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| 13:30 | <Xenguy> | .oO(attitude but no clue - sounds like Sarah Palin fans...) |
| 13:31 | * | Xenguy runs and ducks for cover... |
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| 13:31 | <faheem> | Xenguy: amen to that |
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| 13:34 | <simonrvn> | Xenguy: won't hear nays from me about that |
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| 13:35 | <Xenguy> | hehe |
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| 13:42 | <viktor> | корнелий |
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| 13:50 | <faheem> | !ru |
| 13:50 | <dpkg> | Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net. |
| 13:50 | <faheem> | oh, he left |
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| 13:54 | <simonrvn> | .by .. bulgarian iirc |
| 13:54 | <simonrvn> | !by |
| 13:54 | <dpkg> | it has been said that by is Belarus |
| 13:54 | <simonrvn> | ah my bad |
| 13:54 | <_sleepy_> | hai |
| 13:54 | <_sleepy_> | hi |
| 13:54 | <sney> | hi |
| 13:54 | <simonrvn> | ahneen |
| 13:55 | <_sleepy_> | what the most of people here use? apt-get od aptitude? |
| 13:55 | <_sleepy_> | *or |
| 13:56 | <sney> | I use aptitude |
| 13:56 | <Lethalman_> | _sleepy_, better use aptitude for dependency solver and other stuff |
| 13:57 | <sney> | !why aptitude |
| 13:57 | <dpkg> | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often be able to come up with a solution where apt-get just gives up. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). It can also remove or purge one package at the same time as installing others all from the command line or at the Y/n/q/? prompt using its interactive resolver, making it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. |
| 13:57 | <simonrvn> | aptitude, and it's the recommended thing to us, as it's better at dependency resolution, and does more neat stuff too. |
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| 13:57 | <Lethalman_> | also it got ncurses and gtk interfaces |
| 13:57 | <sney> | and it has a ncurses gui that gives me terrifying flashbacks to dselect! thankfully you don't need to use the gui |
| 13:57 | <simonrvn> | erm, you can do that with apt-get too (It can also remove or purge one package at the same time as installing others ...) |
| 13:57 | <Jarreck> | hellou |
| 13:57 | <sney> | hi |
| 13:58 | <simonrvn> | sney: meh, it only resembles dselect ;p. it behaves nothing like it. |
| 13:58 | <sney> | the look is enough |
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| 13:58 | * | sney twitches |
| 13:58 | <simonrvn> | heh. you get over that =) |
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| 13:58 | <EagleRock> | simonrvn: I haven't :-P |
| 13:58 | <simonrvn> | hehe |
| 13:59 | <faheem> | _sleepy_: apt-get and apt-cache work just fine |
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| 13:59 | <faheem> | though they possibly don't have fancy search features and stuff |
| 13:59 | <_sleepy_> | some time ago (maybe a year), someone advised me usa apt-get. for once it happened that apt-get could dependency where aptitude failed |
| 13:59 | <simonrvn> | s,us,use, |
| 13:59 | <_sleepy_> | *resolve |
| 14:00 | <simonrvn> | only apt utils i still use are apt-get (source) and apt-cache |
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| 14:00 | <faheem> | simonrvn: you should correct the description :-) |
| 14:00 | <simonrvn> | will do |
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| 14:02 | <simonrvn> | done |
| 14:03 | <faheem> | simonrvn: you have bot access? |
| 14:03 | <faheem> | !tell faheem about why aptitude |
| 14:03 | <simonrvn> | i know how to edit ;) |
| 14:03 | <faheem> | sorry, i should have done a msg |
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| 14:06 | <simonrvn> | np, it's dead in here right now ;) |
| 14:06 | <simonrvn> | afk |
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| 14:19 | <nepster> | yo! |
| 14:19 | <chrisreich> | user needs assistance with apt.conf and apt::Cache-Limit on Debian Lenny x86 |
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| 14:20 | <babilen> | chrisreich: please state the nature of the technical emergency |
| 14:20 | <chrisreich> | aptitude tells me to "increase the size of APT::Cache-Limit..." but there is no apt.conf file to alter |
| 14:21 | <babilen> | just create it |
| 14:21 | <chrisreich> | really? shouldn't there be one to modify? |
| 14:21 | <babilen> | no |
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| 14:21 | <chrisreich> | ok, back to the other computer. Thank you. |
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| 14:23 | <babilen> | chrisreich: have a look at /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/apt.conf if you need inspiration |
| 14:23 | <chrisreich> | I saw that earlier today and am going there now. Thank you. |
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| 14:27 | <sney> | there should just be a default one with some commonly needed options commented out |
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| 14:38 | <simonrvn> | there is |
| 14:38 | <simonrvn> | /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/apt.conf |
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| 14:42 | <Yonut27> | I am using Debian (Lenny) 2.6.26-2-686. I have noticed something strange with my directory view. When listing a directory, the folders are in a weird order. If the folder contains an ampersand, the ampersand is ignored, and the next characters are used for sorting. How do I get it to sort alphabetically with the & included? |
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| 14:47 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 392] by debhelper |
| 14:47 | <dvst> | hi all |
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| 14:49 | <NamekTran> | uhm |
| 14:50 | <NamekTran> | heey |
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| 14:50 | <babilen> | NamekTran: and? |
| 14:50 | <NamekTran> | i got Debian :D |
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| 14:50 | <babilen> | NamekTran: \o/ |
| 14:51 | <babilen> | NamekTran: so it worked? |
| 14:51 | <NamekTran> | yesh :D |
| 14:51 | <NamekTran> | but its gnome |
| 14:51 | <NamekTran> | i want kde -_- |
| 14:51 | <babilen> | NamekTran: then install it :-D |
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| 14:51 | <NamekTran> | hehe |
| 14:51 | <babilen> | !tell NamekTran -about install kde |
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| 14:53 | <Queue_Mr> | Hi, while out and about today I have been burned by sid. I get grub error: Need to load a kernel first when attempting to come back from a hibernated session |
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| 14:54 | <NamekTran> | babilen: hehe i think i can do it :D thanks for all what u done ;D |
| 14:54 | <NamekTran> | see ya |
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| 14:54 | <babilen> | NamekTran: You are welcome! Enjoy your Debian... |
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| 14:57 | <Yonut27> | I am using Debian (Lenny) 2.6.26-2-686. I have noticed something strange with my directory view. When listing a directory, the folders are in a weird order. If the folder contains an ampersand, the ampersand is ignored, and the next characters are used for sorting. How do I get it to sort alphabetically with the & included? |
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| 14:59 | <amphi> | Yonut27: does it behave if you do 'LC_COLLATE=C ls" ? |
| 15:00 | <debianman> | there any way to install xsplash in debian? |
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| 15:01 | <babilen> | Queue_Mr: hang on .. |
| 15:01 | <babilen> | Queue_Mr: did you check the bug tracker? |
| 15:01 | <simonrvn> | !tell Yonut27 -about repeat |
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| 15:01 | <Queue_Mr> | babilen: I just now got net access via Mint linux on USB. |
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| 15:02 | <Web-sidux337> | hello |
| 15:02 | <Web-sidux337> | I have a problem with debian netinst |
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| 15:02 | <Queue_Mr> | babilen: which seems to suck atm. Let me try knoppix. brb |
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| 15:03 | <babilen> | Queue_Mr: alright |
| 15:03 | <Yonut27> | amphi: The command line is fine, it just seems to be happening when I use the file browsers. |
| 15:04 | <Web-sidux337> | i have a realtek 8185b wifi card and i try to install debian trough netinst using wifi card |
| 15:04 | <Web-sidux337> | debian installer couldn't find any essid's |
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| 15:05 | <Web-sidux337> | but livecd can find access point |
| 15:05 | <Web-sidux337> | using amd64 arch |
| 15:06 | <Web-sidux337> | how i can resolve this problem ? |
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| 15:06 | <amphi> | Yonut27: oh - is that not up their own sort settings? |
| 15:07 | <Web-sidux337> | anyone help ? |
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| 15:07 | <amphi> | Web-sidux337: can you use ethernet for the install? that'll be simpler |
| 15:08 | <Web-sidux337> | err ... I can't |
| 15:09 | <Web-sidux337> | but debian installer found my wifi card |
| 15:09 | <Yonut27> | amphi: So then if they are settings, what setting am I looking for to make the '&' count as it's ascii value instead of being ignored? |
| 15:10 | <babilen> | Web-sidux337: the card should work. The installer does, however, not support WPA .. Is the AP you are tying to connect to encrypted? |
| 15:10 | <babilen> | !rtl8185 |
| 15:10 | <dpkg> | [rtl-wifi][rtl-wifi] the Realtek Linux 802.11b/g wireless LAN drivers. Supports the RTL8180, RTL8185, RTL8187 and RTL8187B chipsets. RTL8187 support included in mainline from 2.6.23, RTL8180 and RTL8185 from 2.6.25, some RTL8187B from 2.6.27. Drivers do not require firmware from userspace. RTL8187SE not supported, ask me about <rtl8187se>. For support of 802.11n devices, ask me about <rtl8192su>, <rtl8192e>. http://wiki.debian.org/rtl818x |
| 15:10 | <Web-sidux337> | i dont know |
| 15:11 | <Web-sidux337> | i know i don't need pass for AP |
| 15:11 | <babilen> | Web-sidux337: You never entered one? |
| 15:11 | <Web-sidux337> | i entered before |
| 15:11 | <babilen> | And you said that you can connect to the AP just fine without entering a password? |
| 15:12 | <Web-sidux337> | yes |
| 15:12 | <babilen> | Web-sidux337: Ok, that might just be the problem. Are you using the live CD right now (or another *nix) ? |
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| 15:12 | <Queue_Mr> | babilen, back, knoppix to the rescue... |
| 15:12 | <Web-sidux337> | now i'm using sidux livecd |
| 15:12 | <babilen> | Queue_Mr: :-D |
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| 15:13 | <Web-sidux337> | and work fine |
| 15:13 | <babilen> | Web-sidux337: Ok, can you enter "iwlist wlan0 scan" and paste the section on your wireless network (you probably want to delete some sensible information) |
| 15:13 | <babilen> | Queue_Mr: Have you checked for bug reports about that issue? |
| 15:14 | <Web-sidux337> | wlan0 Scan completed : |
| 15:14 | <Web-sidux337> | Cell 01 - Address: 00:1D:0F:D6:DE:00 |
| 15:14 | <Web-sidux337> | ESSID:"TP-LINK" |
| 15:14 | <Web-sidux337> | Mode:Master |
| 15:14 | <Web-sidux337> | Channel:6 |
| 15:14 | -!- | Web-sidux337 was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use the paster bot or #flood] |
| 15:14 | <sney> | lol |
| 15:14 | <sney> | never fails |
| 15:14 | <babilen> | shit |
| 15:14 | <Queue_Mr> | babilen, no, not yet. I'm still wanting to mount the encrypted LVM, but knoppix isn't playing well.. |
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| 15:14 | <babilen> | Queue_Mr: no cryptsetup/ |
| 15:14 | <Queue_Mr> | cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda2 should do it but it's spitting back --usage info |
| 15:15 | <babilen> | Yeah, that should do it ... |
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| 15:15 | <perk> | Queue_Mr, cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdb2 whatyouwanttocallthemapperdevice |
| 15:15 | <babilen> | Queue_Mr: no ... you have to give a name |
| 15:15 | <Queue_Mr> | perk, ahhh.. yes! |
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| 15:15 | <babilen> | sney: hope he/she comes back |
| 15:15 | <Web-sidux337> | i pasted ... and i kicked form channel |
| 15:15 | <sney> | yes, paste on http://paste.debian.net |
| 15:15 | <babilen> | !tell Web-sidux337 -about paste |
| 15:16 | <McNuggz__> | i have question about debian networkinstall and using usbconnected wlanadapter. you think theres any chance of using it to install? i think it uses driver: ralink rt2870 |
| 15:17 | <sney> | for ralink you need firmware and I think a newer kernel |
| 15:17 | <sney> | there might be a custom installer |
| 15:17 | <Web-sidux337> | http://paste.debian.net/hidden/9c369644/ |
| 15:18 | <babilen> | !tell McNuggz__ -about kmuto |
| 15:18 | <Web-sidux337> | i pasted on this link |
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| 15:18 | <babilen> | Web-sidux337: That looks fine. It is not encrypted. Is there anything else you need to do to get online there? |
| 15:19 | <Web-sidux337> | yes |
| 15:19 | <babilen> | Web-sidux337: what is that? |
| 15:20 | <Web-sidux337> | ? |
| 15:21 | <babilen> | Web-sidux337: What do you need to do to get online there apart from connecting? |
| 15:21 | <sney> | he's on a livecd, he's having trouble getting online through the debian netinst |
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| 15:22 | <chealer> | McNuggz__: any chance? perhaps a very small one |
| 15:22 | <Web-sidux337> | i used Ceni to get online |
| 15:22 | <babilen> | yes, i know. The wireless card should work with d-i, just trying to figure out what the issue might be with that network |
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| 15:23 | <sney> | is it one of those NICs where the driver exists in lenny but doesn't actually work until 2.6.29 or later? |
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| 15:23 | <chealer> | Web-sidux337: you'd presumably need to implement for your situation in debian-installer |
| 15:23 | <chealer> | s/implement/implement support/ |
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| 15:23 | <babilen> | !rtl8185 |
| 15:23 | <dpkg> | [rtl-wifi][rtl-wifi] the Realtek Linux 802.11b/g wireless LAN drivers. Supports the RTL8180, RTL8185, RTL8187 and RTL8187B chipsets. RTL8187 support included in mainline from 2.6.23, RTL8180 and RTL8185 from 2.6.25, some RTL8187B from 2.6.27. Drivers do not require firmware from userspace. RTL8187SE not supported, ask me about <rtl8187se>. For support of 802.11n devices, ask me about <rtl8192su>, <rtl8192e>. http://wiki.debian.org/rtl818x |
| 15:24 | <Queue_Mr> | boy... it's amazing how much you forget when problems never come up!! |
| 15:24 | <Web-sidux337> | it's strange. the installer found card but it doesn't work with AP ... |
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| 15:28 | <Web-sidux337> | maybe i will try to install arch linux system. |
| 15:29 | <handheldCar> | I couldn't get any packages this morning. |
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| 15:29 | <Web-sidux337> | i know how configure wifi in console |
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| 15:30 | <babilen> | Web-sidux337: Ok, evaluating your options: (i) connect via ethernet (ii) use full cd/dvd-1 (iii) install base system and chroot |
| 15:31 | <sney> | (iv) debootstrap |
| 15:31 | <handheldCar> | I tried to install Arch this morning, but it wouldn't get any packages from ibiblio.org |
| 15:31 | <babilen> | sney: was just typing that :-) |
| 15:31 | <Web-sidux337> | can you paste link to the tutorial ? |
| 15:32 | <Web-sidux337> | (and sorry for my english ;) ) |
| 15:32 | <babilen> | Web-sidux337: are (i) and (ii) options for you? Id est: Can you connect to a wired network or download the DVD-1 ? |
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| 15:32 | <babilen> | Web-sidux337: I am not a native speaker myself and you are doing fine so far :-) |
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| 15:33 | <Web-sidux337> | :) |
| 15:33 | <Web-sidux337> | Can I install base debian system to disk from livecd ? |
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| 15:34 | <Web-sidux337> | this is chroot and deboostrap ? |
| 15:34 | <sney> | babilen would probably extra not-appreciate my joke about the Kosciuszko Bridge |
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| 15:34 | <babilen> | The easiest way would be to use the CD-1/DVD-1 and install from there... |
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| 15:35 | <sney> | yeah, you can get literally almost anything you would want from DVD-1 |
| 15:35 | <Web-sidux337> | I have only Debian 5.01 Disk with lxde and xfce ... |
| 15:35 | <Web-sidux337> | this is a cd |
| 15:35 | <Web-sidux337> | and this is not amd64 version |
| 15:36 | <babilen> | Web-sidux337: yes, but you could just download the first (not netinstall) CD and install from there |
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| 15:36 | <Web-sidux337> | install from 1cd and install wifi card ? |
| 15:37 | <fogel> | hello. |
| 15:37 | <babilen> | Web-sidux337: Just install a complete system from CD-1, boot and you'll be able to connect to your AP (hopefully) |
| 15:37 | <fogel> | is some who can point me a package for mail service? |
| 15:37 | <babilen> | fogel: What kind of mail service? |
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| 15:38 | <Web-sidux337> | but i not want to download 1 cd and i used netinstall |
| 15:38 | <babilen> | Web-sidux337: Just download DVD-1 (it contains almost everyhting you'll ever need) and install from there. All the packages that the netinstall installer tries to fetch during install are on there |
| 15:38 | <fogel> | kind of like offer lotus notes! |
| 15:39 | <babilen> | fogel: ... evolution? (gnome) kontact? (kde) maybe ... |
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| 15:39 | <Queue_Mr> | when mounting volumes from a chroot, I first need to chroot to /dev/mapper/root and then mount /usr /var /home etc? |
| 15:40 | <fogel> | does evolution serves mail? i thought that was only a client. |
| 15:40 | <Web-sidux337> | that waste my time ... 1dvd on my link will donwload at ... 20 hours ? |
| 15:40 | <fogel> | i try exim4 but the configuration that i found was to rough. |
| 15:41 | <babilen> | Web-sidux337: The CD image is just 645 MB |
| 15:41 | <Web-sidux337> | i'll try another ways ... maybe install arch but i don't know |
| 15:41 | <babilen> | fogel: You want to configure a mail server? |
| 15:41 | <fogel> | that is correct. |
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| 15:41 | <babilen> | fogel: Have a look at exim and/or postfix |
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| 15:42 | <babilen> | fogel: Do you need a fully-fledged mail system, with MX record, smtp and everything? |
| 15:42 | <Web-sidux337> | Debian 5.01 cd with xfce and lxde wasn't have th support for my card ? |
| 15:42 | <fogel> | exim i tried. But didn't find it easy to config. |
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| 15:43 | <fogel> | no, is just a solution for a small school. |
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| 15:44 | <fogel> | is practically just a network with a simple route and two branches. |
| 15:44 | <babilen> | fogel: yes, but the school still has a FQDN (fully qualified domain name as in: school.edu) and the server should receive/send mail, correct? |
| 15:45 | <Web-sidux337> | ok i must go. thanks for helping. bye |
| 15:45 | <fogel> | has a domain server whit active directory, but i'm tryin' to sell them linux solution. And they have lotusnotes to do that. But they don have a public domain. Just local |
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| 15:52 | <durruti> | irc spanish? |
| 15:52 | <locklace> | !es |
| 15:52 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 16:22 | <locklace> | !qotd0 |
| 16:22 | <dpkg> | <kingsley> OK, there are just a few things that I'd rather do before I resort to using 2.6: I'd rather get a vasectomy with a weed whacker, an enema with a garden hose, slam my nose in a car door, have a proctologist named Dr. Hook and watch Roseann Barr do a strip-tease. |
| 16:23 | <cahoot> | wonder which he did choose |
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| 16:51 | <simonrvn> | since he was forced to do so anyway ;) |
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| 16:52 | <nmartin> | How does one change resolution in Grub? |
| 16:53 | <simonrvn> | like the rest of us, you rtfm |
| 16:53 | <nmartin> | Would that be read the manual? |
| 16:54 | <nmartin> | This from a dork in a 'chat' room |
| 16:54 | <majhool> | sour grapes |
| 16:55 | <Xenguy> | nmartin: no no, it's read the fucking manual ;-) |
| 16:55 | <nmartin> | Im familiar.. haha |
| 16:55 | <Xenguy> | classic |
| 16:56 | <nmartin> | Well I guess Ill read the fucken manual then... |
| 16:57 | <amphi> | that is the beginning of wisdom |
| 16:57 | <Xenguy> | sorry, I meant fine manual, yeah, that's the ticket |
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| 17:02 | <mika_> | o |
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| 17:03 | <mika_> | how to get rid of sticky/dead keys? |
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| 17:03 | <mika_> | hello |
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| 18:00 | <caccioz> | ciao |
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| 18:29 | <zzzxzzz> | hi |
| 18:29 | <sney> | hi |
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| 18:38 | <simonrvn> | that was the same person, fyi |
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| 20:21 | <fgh> | if i cat * |grep something can i in some way see in what file grep finds "something"? |
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| 20:24 | <fgh> | grep "something" * |
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| 21:09 | <oDarkPurpse> | ? |
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| 21:11 | <redmaw> | is there any way to disable the foced filesystem check before booting? I really don't have 5 hours to wait for the damn thing today |
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| 21:26 | <redmaw> | hey, how do I set my user account to own a hdd so I can access it? |
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| 21:27 | <faheem> | redmaw: mount it, then change permissions |
| 21:28 | <redmaw> | it's mounted but I can't access it and I can't change permissions b/c you can't login as root |
| 21:28 | <sney> | why can't you log in as root? |
| 21:28 | <faheem> | redmaw: is it your only drive? give more details |
| 21:29 | <redmaw> | it's a hdd I need to copy some data to, nothing else |
| 21:29 | <sney> | what filesystem is it? |
| 21:29 | <faheem> | redmaw: ok, so why can't you become root? |
| 21:29 | <redmaw> | ntfs |
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| 21:30 | <redmaw> | I can become root, just not with gui interface and chmod doesn't appear to do anything |
| 21:30 | <faheem> | does your kernel support writing to ntfs? |
| 21:30 | <handheldCar> | right-click and run as administrator? |
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| 21:31 | <redmaw> | not an option |
| 21:31 | <sney> | the debian kernels all support ntfs writes, but it's best to have ntfs-3g installed |
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| 21:31 | <redmaw> | it its |
| 21:31 | <redmaw> | *is |
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| 21:32 | <sney> | if you chmod ug+rw the disk device, and run ntfs-3g setuid root, then that's a (kind of insecure) fast way to do it |
| 21:32 | <redmaw> | thanjs |
| 21:32 | <redmaw> | thanks |
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| 22:10 | <handheldCar> | why would my debian refuse ssh connections and fail to display a web page? |
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| 22:12 | <handheldCar> | oh I think I see. |
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| 22:29 | <Remmy> | Hi all, running testing here. How can I see which xserver is being used? I'm trying to troubleshoot the problem where I can't get X back after resuming from sleep on disk. |
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| --- | Log | closed Sat Nov 28 00:00:40 2009 |