| --- | Log | opened Tue Aug 11 00:00:48 2009 |
| --- | Day | changed Tue Aug 11 2009 |
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| 00:03 | <chitchat> | dioz: If I'm having a problem that the link you referred me to doesn't solve, what's the best next step? |
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| 00:33 | <bike_> | how can i change a nautilus default, it wants to open text docs etc. in wines notepad |
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| 01:01 | <Hideo> | is the bts down for everyone else? |
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| 01:10 | <ml|> | http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ <--- might help |
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| 01:15 | <ml|> | jm_: got that memtest86+ sorted it out :) |
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| 01:16 | <jm_> | ml|: what was it? |
| 01:16 | <ml|> | thanks to vvas and doing some more reading in bts |
| 01:18 | <ml|> | jm_: it needs to be linux16 (hd0,1)/memtest86+.bin |
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| 01:19 | <ml|> | jm_: but then vvas wrote a patch to include the fixes read more here ... http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=540572 |
| 01:21 | <ml|> | so doing and update-grub2 will write a /boot/grub/grub.cfg the write way everytime |
| 01:22 | <jm_> | ml|: ok that explains why it works fine for me |
| 01:22 | <ml|> | s/write way/wright way/ |
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| 01:23 | <ml|> | ok, just leeting you know thanks for your help |
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| 01:24 | <jm_> | yeah the version in lenny is so much older it shouldn't be used as a reference like with grub legacy |
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| 01:28 | <ml|> | when i get email from bts i will include my 20_memtest86+ that works and the grub.cfg that it writes now |
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| 01:29 | <jm_> | while at it why not also patch update-grub to make a backup? :) |
| 01:31 | <ml|> | good question |
| 01:32 | <ml|> | :) |
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| 01:33 | <jm_> | maybe newer versions already do, should check that first |
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| 01:34 | <ml|> | by looking at bts seems not |
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| 01:35 | <ml|> | judd: versions grub-pc |
| 01:35 | <judd> | ml|: grub-pc -- lenny: 1.96+20080724-16 sid: 1.96+20090725-1 squeeze: 1.96+20090725-1 |
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| 02:02 | <adama_> | !test |
| 02:02 | <dpkg> | epic test fail |
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| 02:24 | <Ethaniel> | Hi everyone. |
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| 02:26 | <Ethaniel> | I need an opinion, more than help. What do you think?: |
| 02:27 | <Ethaniel> | 1) Should I install Lenny and stay with it? |
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| 02:27 | <Ethaniel> | 2) Should I try testing to be a bit more on the bleeding edge? |
| 02:27 | <Ethaniel> | 3) Or should I install Lenny and use testing reps after it is installed? |
| 02:29 | <cahoot> | 1 until you've learned how debian and its versions 'works' |
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| 02:30 | <Ethaniel> | Yeah, I thought so. Had a few problems with testing builds, but Lenny always came to the rescue. |
| 02:31 | <Ethaniel> | But, having a newer version of "almost" everything is tempting... |
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| 02:32 | <py1hon> | just depends on whether you're ok with dealing with the occasional problem |
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| 02:34 | <Ethaniel> | I have an iso of Lenny netinst here, so, lenny it will be. |
| 02:34 | <Ethaniel> | Thanks cahoot, py1hon. |
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| 03:35 | <Arkade> | hey guys, how come apt-setup isn't in lenny anymore? |
| 03:35 | <craigevil> | !apt-setup |
| 03:35 | <dpkg> | apt-setup was a means of adding a Debian mirror to your APT sources. No longer available since <base-config> was removed (http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/01/msg00199.html). <apt-spy> or <netselect-apt> can be used instead. To install Debian packages located on CD, ask me about <apt-cdrom>. |
| 03:36 | <Arkade> | ah thanks |
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| 04:42 | <raviepic3> | help | this is a fresh installation of linux ,i am not able to ssh into a machine which others can do |
| 04:42 | <raviepic3> | i did a ssh root@localhost.com |
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| 04:42 | <raviepic3> | [14:11][14:11] <raviepic3> i am able to login in |
| 04:43 | <raviepic3> | [14:11][14:11] <raviepic3> but when i try remote system it says No route to host error |
| 04:43 | <raviepic3> | [14:12][14:12] <raviepic3> how can i proceed |
| 04:43 | <raviepic3> | ? |
| 04:43 | <raviepic3> | any help ? |
| 04:43 | <raviepic3> | important please |
| 04:44 | <weasel> | localhost.com? |
| 04:44 | <jm_> | which linux is this? |
| 04:45 | <jm_> | and are you sure it's localhost.com? |
| 04:45 | <weasel> | I'm pretty sure it's not/ |
| 04:45 | <raviepic3> | weasel: sorry localhost |
| 04:45 | <raviepic3> | Jids: sidux |
| 04:45 | <weasel> | raviepic3: then you are wrong here. |
| 04:45 | <weasel> | !sidux |
| 04:45 | <dpkg> | it has been said that sidux is a live distribution <based on Debian> Sid, with a special focus on clean and easy hard disk installation. It is <OT> in #debian. Please /join #sidux on irc.oftc.net. |
| 04:45 | <weasel> | (you probably don't have a lo device up and configured correctly tho) |
| 04:46 | <raviepic3> | weasel: lo device ? |
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| 05:11 | <murphee> | g |
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| 05:21 | <manuel> | broser widget does not show folder icons, what should I do to show them (linux)? |
| 05:21 | <manuel> | \join #FLTK |
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| 05:22 | <snogglethorpe> | windows' pernicious influence... |
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| 05:30 | <chmaykel> | ok |
| 05:30 | <chmaykel> | salut |
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| 05:45 | <EmleyMoor> | Is it possible to change the presented user agent name on a per tab basis in Iceweasel? |
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| 05:51 | <powerdruck> | hallo... |
| 05:52 | <powerdruck> | i try to install a firewall... |
| 05:52 | <powerdruck> | but it seems like i have a problem to be online with 2 interfeces in 2 different networks... |
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| 05:53 | <powerdruck> | or like the 2 interfeces dont like work in the same time |
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| 05:59 | <petemc> | powerdruck: do both networks have gateways? |
| 05:59 | <powerdruck> | one is the internet and one our network with a router |
| 06:00 | <petemc> | so, yes? |
| 06:02 | <powerdruck> | yes |
| 06:03 | <petemc> | http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html |
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| 06:19 | <twb> | Where do the hildon types hang out? |
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| 06:19 | <twb> | The debian/hildon ones, I mean |
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| 06:20 | <petemc> | expn hildon |
| 06:20 | <berto> | twb: what are you looking for ? the debian hildon maintainer ? |
| 06:21 | <twb> | berto: no, more like #debian-hildon |
| 06:21 | <twb> | Or #debian-embedded-gui-weenies or whatever, if there's a more general context |
| 06:21 | <berto> | i don't think there's such channel, but in case I can help, I'm one of the upstream hildon developers |
| 06:22 | <twb> | Mainly I was looking at abiword's ./configure help and seeing it had hildon as an option. |
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| 06:22 | <twb> | And wondering if that would be lighter than NOT using hildon |
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| 06:23 | <berto> | abiword has hildon support ? |
| 06:23 | <twb> | See, I mostly work on the tty, but occasionally I will "xinit /usr/bin/app", and it's mildly annoying to have 300MB of junk like gvfs |
| 06:23 | <twb> | berto: apparently |
| 06:23 | <twb>--enable-embedded=generic|hildon | poky Include embedded features |
| 06:23 | <twb> | NFI what poky is |
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| 06:24 | <berto> | i imagine it's using hildon menus |
| 06:25 | <twb> | Hmm, "xinit /usr/bin/start-hildon" just gave me a white rectangle in the bottom-left of the screen. |
| 06:25 | <berto> | it shouldn't make much difference |
| 06:25 | <twb> | Ah, running it without X results in: |
| 06:25 | <berto> | i don't know what start-hildon is :? |
| 06:25 | <twb> | /usr/bin/start-hildon: 17: /usr/lib/sapwood/sapwood-server: not found |
| 06:25 | <twb> | /usr/bin/start-hildon: 26: /usr/bin/matchbox-window-manager: not found |
| 06:25 | <berto> | ah I see |
| 06:25 | <twb> | berto: it's provided by this "hildon-desktop" package |
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| 06:26 | <jm_> | it says it's based on gnome, are you sure you will get rid of gvfs junk? :) |
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| 06:27 | <torrentow> | hello i have a problem how to add to sudoers file |
| 06:27 | <berto> | (about poky -> http://www.pokylinux.org/about/) |
| 06:27 | <berto> | there's no gvfs code in libhildon |
| 06:27 | <berto> | but there might be in libhildonfm or others |
| 06:28 | <powerdruck> | how i find brctl or how i install this? |
| 06:28 | <twb> | jm_: see, this is why I'm puzzled |
| 06:29 | <twb> | jm_: even *gnome* bills itself as being "lightweight", so how the hell am I supposed to find something that's *actually* lightweight |
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| 06:30 | <berto> | hildon is just a set of widgets on top of gtk designed for small screens |
| 06:30 | <berto> | but they're completely normal gtk widgets |
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| 06:30 | <twb> | berto: like what? I mean, how can you make a button or tabbar work better? |
| 06:31 | <berto> | like a scrolledwindow-like widget that you move using your finger |
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| 06:34 | <berto> | what I mean is that we don't provide e.g. a new button that uses less memory than the standard gtkbutton |
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| 06:35 | <twb> | I guess a large part of my confusion is that the package descriptions don't say that. |
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| 06:35 | <berto> | if gtk is not lightweight enough for you, hildon won't solve that |
| 06:35 | <berto> | you probably need something like fltk |
| 06:35 | <twb> | hildon-desktop, for example, calls itself "is a desktop environment for embedded devices, based on the GNOME platform" |
| 06:36 | <berto> | (which I assume is lighter, I haven't tested it to be honest) |
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| 06:36 | <berto> | yes, that's what hildon-desktop is |
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| 06:36 | <twb> | But you just said it's for small screens, which isn't the same as embedded devices |
| 06:37 | <berto> | well |
| 06:37 | <snogglethorpe> | (in my mind embedded device = like 80 bytes of ram) |
| 06:37 | <berto> | it was designed for the next nokia tablet, which I don't know if it counts as a small screen or embedded device, or both |
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| 06:38 | <snogglethorpe> | the processor in your pencil sharpener |
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| 06:38 | <twb> | I'd consider 640x480 to be a small screen, but not 1024x768 |
| 06:38 | <aliutkus> | hi there |
| 06:39 | <twb> | As for embedded, I would expect it to be like 128MB each of non-volatile storage and RAM, or much less |
| 06:40 | <twb> | I mean, I wouldn't consider an Atom system to be embedded |
| 06:40 | <berto> | well, all I can say is what hildon-desktop was created for, if you feel the package description is wrong better talk to the maintainer :) |
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| 06:40 | <twb> | Though I guess the Nokia thing is ARM |
| 06:40 | <berto> | yes it is |
| 06:41 | <berto> | the n810 has 128MB of RAM, the next one will probably have more |
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| 06:57 | <squelos> | hi |
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| 07:09 | <joel> | hi.. one question i have one server in etch and want to upgrade it to lenny, i edited the sources.list file, and then aptitude update. After that, i wrote aptitude upgrade (don't know if this would be better than dist-upgrade) and it tells me that there are some packages that are going to be kept back... is it normal? |
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| 07:09 | <jm_> | joel: yes |
| 07:10 | <joel> | jm_: Should i use aptitude upgrade instead aptitude dist-upgrade?. |
| 07:11 | <jm_> | joel: I think they recommend upgrade, but dist-upgrade is more likely to try to do something about those packages |
| 07:11 | <locklace> | dpkg: etch->lenny |
| 07:11 | <dpkg> | Read the release notes, ask me about <lenny release notes>. Ensure your Etch installation is up to date (aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade). Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and change all non-local mentions of "etch" to "lenny". aptitude update; aptitude install aptitude; aptitude safe-upgrade; aptitude full-upgrade. Also ask me about <apt-listbugs>, <etch->lenny key>. |
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| 07:15 | <squelos> | hi, i get theses errors after installing fglrx drivers ... http://pastebin.com/m5d96fdc6 |
| 07:15 | <squelos> | and scrolling down is very slow |
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| 07:18 | <joel> | locklace, when i do that, it says me that some packages has unmet dependencies... so i think it will broke my system |
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| 07:23 | <jm_> | squelos: for 2D? |
| 07:23 | <squelos> | yeah |
| 07:24 | <squelos> | i installed the fglrx drivers just as said by ati |
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| 07:24 | <squelos> | but when i look up on google, they seem to compile it themselves |
| 07:24 | <squelos> | apparently something is wrong with DRI |
| 07:24 | <squelos> | !dri |
| 07:24 | <dpkg> | dri is, like, Direct Rendering Infrastructure, included in X. see http://dri.sourceforge.net or #dri, or read the outut of LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo if your X log looks ok |
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| 07:26 | <squelos> | jm_ any idea ? |
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| 07:30 | <joel> | then can't i upgrade? |
| 07:31 | <jm_> | squelos: not really, I was thinking you meant 3D |
| 07:31 | <locklace> | joel: sounds like you didn't read the release notes and follow the upgrade instructions |
| 07:32 | <joel> | locklace, seems like you did not read what i just wrote. |
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| 07:34 | <locklace> | joel: ok, let's try this. before attempting to upgrade from etch to lenny, did you read the lenny release notes and follow step-by-step the upgrade instructions they contain? |
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| 07:35 | <joel> | locklace, er.. _yes_ i did. when i try aptitude install aptitude (it says it is going to upgrade some packages BUT there are a few that it says are going to be kept back, including aptitude itself!) |
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| 07:36 | <locklace> | joel: can you paste your sources.list and the output of the "aptitude install aptitude" to http://paste.debian.net |
| 07:37 | <joel> | locklace, http://paste.debian.net/43864/ |
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| 07:39 | <twb> | joel: I've seen that before |
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| 07:39 | <twb> | joel: just manually resolve the conflict differently, by upgrading a handful of other things (mainly dpkg and apt, IIRC). |
| 07:40 | <joel> | twb: how? |
| 07:40 | <twb> | Use aptitude's GUI |
| 07:40 | <squelos> | synaptic that is |
| 07:40 | <twb> | squelos: er, no. |
| 07:40 | <joel> | twb, er.. it's a server, it does not have a gui. |
| 07:40 | <locklace> | joel: you didn't include your sources.list |
| 07:40 | <twb> | If you run aptitude without arguments, it starts the GUI |
| 07:41 | <squelos> | oh, i didnt even know :D |
| 07:41 | <joel> | locklace, sorry, this is my sources.list: http://paste.debian.net/43866/ |
| 07:42 | <locklace> | joel: assuming sources.list is sane, letting aptitude proceed by choosing that first conflict resolution option seems reasonable |
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| 07:42 | <joel> | locklace, what i am afraid is that it breaks my system. |
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| 07:43 | <teddy> | hello |
| 07:43 | <twb> | joel: I assume you've read the upgrade documentation? |
| 07:43 | <joel> | as you see, it says that apt-utils libc6 libc6-i686 locales are broken. |
| 07:43 | <twb> | joel: it means the dependency is broken |
| 07:43 | <joel> | twb, yes, i have be using debian several time, and have always upgrade using aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade without problem, but now it says me that |
| 07:43 | <twb> | joel: i.e. there is a conflict to resolve |
| 07:44 | <twb> | joel: no, I mean have you read the SPECIFIC documentation regarding upgrading from Etch to Lenny. |
| 07:44 | <twb> | !etch->lenny |
| 07:44 | <twb> | dpkg: tell joel -about etch->lenny |
| 07:45 | <locklace> | i still think he did something other than follow the release notes instructions first, and is now in this situation as a result |
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| 07:45 | <twb> | locklace: hm. |
| 07:45 | <joel> | locklace, no i didn't. i just followed what you told me. |
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| 07:45 | <locklace> | joel: but the conflict resolution takes care of that. the only somewhat risky thing i see there is the libc-i686 update |
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| 07:45 | <twb> | I have seen the same symptoms, but I certainly didn't follow the docs ;-) |
| 07:46 | <twb> | locklace: part of the issue is that conflict resolution in etch's aptitude is crap, so I always upgraded aptitude and minimum dependencies first, then let it resolve everything else. |
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| 07:46 | <locklace> | that's what the instructions tell you to do |
| 07:46 | <twb> | FSVO "is crap" = doesn't provide a list of various alternatives, or something. I forget exactly. |
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| 07:47 | <joel> | if i say: aptitude upgrade aptitude it says me that apt, apt-utils, and aptitude among others are going to be kept back, so... :S |
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| 07:48 | <locklace> | joel: what does "apt-cache policy libc6" return |
| 07:48 | <locklace> | joel: it does not say that. it says those packages will be upgraded |
| 07:49 | <joel> | http://paste.debian.net/43867/ |
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| 07:51 | <locklace> | joel: the next thing i'd look at is some of the other conflict resolution options aptitude suggests. you can run it with -s to simulate without doing anything. it would help if you can paste those other options |
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| 07:52 | <louis1211> | hello |
| 07:52 | <louis1211> | I have some problems with my wifi connection |
| 07:53 | <joel> | locklace, hmm.. aptitude -s upgrade aptitude? |
| 07:53 | <louis1211> | The bitrate is not as high as possible |
| 07:53 | <locklace> | joel: aptitude -s install aptitude |
| 07:53 | <louis1211> | I don't know where is the problem |
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| 07:54 | <joel> | locklace, sure it won't touch anything? |
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| 07:54 | <locklace> | joel: read the man page if you don't believe me |
| 07:54 | <louis1211> | for example, I have another linux an it works better the bitrate is 54Mb/s |
| 07:54 | <louis1211> | but it isn't the same wifi card |
| 07:55 | <louis1211> | can someone help me? |
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| 07:55 | <joel> | locklace, it says: Would download/install/remove packages. |
| 07:55 | <locklace> | that's only if you told it to go ahead with some particular option |
| 07:56 | <joel> | locklace: it told it to go ahead, wasn't that what you wanted to know? |
| 07:57 | <locklace> | no, i wanted you to say no to the first conflict resolution suggestion so it would show you others |
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| 07:58 | <joel> | locklace: http://paste.debian.net/43869/ |
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| 07:59 | <locklace> | so just keep going through the options and see if there're any that look better, i.e. don't require upgrading libc6-i686 |
| 07:59 | <locklace> | although i have a feeling the first option is going to be the best available one |
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| 08:00 | <joel> | locklace: but that one will upgrade lib6-i686 |
| 08:01 | <locklace> | yes. probably it will be fine |
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| 08:05 | <bjorne_sweden> | how I make a xorg.conf in debian, in slackware xf86config :/( |
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| 08:06 | <jm_> | bjorne_sweden: by hand if you need it |
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| 08:06 | <locklace> | actually, the option looks borked. libc6-i686 should depend on the libc6 of the same version |
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| 08:07 | <bjorne> | jm_ only the way to make xorg.conf are to edit with editor? that SUX hard.... |
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| 08:07 | <jm_> | bjorne: not really |
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| 08:07 | <bike__> | the nvidia-config utility can do it |
| 08:07 | <bike__> | amongst others |
| 08:08 | <bike__> | bjorne, |
| 08:08 | <jm_> | x server no longer needs it to start |
| 08:08 | <bjorne> | i have ATI :/ |
| 08:08 | <bike__> | then use the ati utility? |
| 08:08 | <bike__> | if there is one? |
| 08:08 | <bjorne> | aticonfig :) |
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| 08:10 | <bjorne> | copy my slackware xorg.conf to debian only the hard way... :/ |
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| 08:10 | <coolpet> | hi all |
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| 08:14 | <ilgiz> | ай нид хелп :) |
| 08:15 | <dr|z3d> | !ru |
| 08:15 | <dpkg> | Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net. |
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| 08:16 | <squelos> | hi |
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| 08:16 | <squelos> | i was wondering. is there any way of making a sys save on linux ? If yes, how ? |
| 08:19 | <petemc> | a sys save? |
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| 08:22 | <coolpet> | hi means maybe system restore :) |
| 08:22 | <coolpet> | i come back after vidia driver install brb |
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| 08:24 | <squelos> | yes a sys restore |
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| 08:52 | <coolpet> | hi all |
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| 08:52 | <coolpet> | i need some help with installint NVIDIA Driver runpakcage |
| 08:53 | <jm_> | !nvidia |
| 08:53 | <dpkg> | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
| 08:53 | <coolpet> | i installed make, gcc, binutils, |
| 08:53 | <coolpet> | ok i watch for it |
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| 09:12 | <coolpet> | hmm not so easy, what i thinked, but i will make it :) |
| 09:12 | <coolpet> | now quit |
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| 10:05 | <Jason1> | How do I verfity the kernel is fine, I keep having the kernel failure |
| 10:07 | <bike__> | what error |
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| 10:08 | <Jason1> | just kernel failure |
| 10:08 | <bike__> | odd |
| 10:08 | <bike__> | which kernel |
| 10:08 | <Jason1> | it wanted to post the error report to the linux developers, so I did |
| 10:08 | <Jason1> | lenny stable |
| 10:09 | <bike__> | on what hw? |
| 10:09 | <Jason1> | good question |
| 10:09 | <Jason1> | I assumed it is my camera |
| 10:09 | <bike__> | lenny stable should be fairly recent anyway tho |
| 10:09 | <bike__> | not like its 2.4 |
| 10:09 | <Jason1> | it is recent updated kernel. It is stable |
| 10:09 | <bike__> | what kernel are you booting now? |
| 10:10 | <Jason1> | hold on |
| 10:10 | <Jason1> | I try to remember the command for kernel version... |
| 10:10 | <ladoga|banaani> | hello all. i get a dialog about error with starting gnome-settings-manager. It happens after every reboot, but not if i log out back in to X |
| 10:10 | <bike__> | uname -r |
| 10:10 | <Jason1> | thanks |
| 10:11 | <bike__> | or was it a |
| 10:11 | <Jason1> | 2.6.26-2-686 |
| 10:11 | <bike__> | should be recent enough that yes |
| 10:11 | <bike__> | and the failing one? |
| 10:11 | <bike__> | older? |
| 10:11 | <bike__> | the one that comes with lenny? |
| 10:11 | <Jason1> | I dunno |
| 10:11 | <ladoga|banaani> | my keyboard produces just gibberish unless I go to keyboard preferences and reload the layout |
| 10:11 | <Jason1> | yes |
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| 10:11 | <ladoga|banaani> | here's the screenie http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_7.png |
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| 10:12 | <Jason1> | weird |
| 10:12 | <ladoga|banaani> | the error message itself isn't too helpful so i'm looking for clues how to start troubleshooting |
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| 10:14 | <ladoga|banaani> | actually it's so vague it reminds me of error dialogs in certain MS product :) |
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| 10:14 | <Jason1> | maybe you had the theme on. |
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| 10:17 | <Jason1> | hm. |
| 10:17 | <bike__> | hrm, im trying to figure out if theres any /proc i can cat to find the chipset info |
| 10:17 | <bike__> | its probably a problem there Jason1 |
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| 10:18 | <Jason1> | cat /proc? |
| 10:18 | <bike__> | but if your running 686 i assume its not a state of the art 64bit something? |
| 10:18 | <Jason1> | no I don't have anything into 64bit |
| 10:18 | <bike__> | yah, lots of useful info is in there |
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| 10:18 | <bike__> | then it should have worked |
| 10:18 | <bike__> | must be a broken module or somethig |
| 10:19 | <bike__> | but then again it is stable |
| 10:20 | <Jason1> | mayube I can just safely ignore it |
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| 10:23 | <Jason1> | can I reinstall it? |
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| 10:28 | <Jason1> | will it will work? |
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| 10:36 | <xeon-enouf> | will it to work? |
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| 10:40 | <Jason1> | well will reinstalling the correct version will make the kernel issues go away? |
| 10:41 | <Zathraz> | Hi. In the process of aptitude full-upgrade (etch->lenny) I stumbled across the package latex-cjk-chinese which I do not use. It wants to deinstall. Yet it cannot do so. When I try to manually do so with dpkg --purge --force-all it still does not work. I think it is because latex rebuilds fonts. In a logfile there are complains about 5yr old fontdef files. How do I get rid of this unneeded package which blocks further upgrading? |
| 10:41 | <xeon-enouf> | Jason1: i justjoined |
| 10:42 | <Jason1> | oh. |
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| 10:42 | <syslq> | dd |
| 10:42 | <xeon-enouf> | and /lastlog Jason1 isn't showing me (i'm not logging ;-0) |
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| 10:43 | <edbian> | I am trying to write an iptables rule for my ssh server. I want it to drop packets if they the destination makes 4 attempts in 3 minutes. Is this correct? -A INPUT --dport 22 -m recent --update --seconds 180 --hitcount 4 -j DROP |
| 10:43 | <Jason1> | lol. |
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| 10:44 | <olet> | first of all it would be the source not destination |
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| 10:44 | <Jason1> | aha thought so. |
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| 10:44 | <edbian> | olet: oops, that's a typo! Thank you |
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| 10:45 | <edbian> | olet: Wait, I don't understand? My ssh server listens for connections on port 22. How does the source port matter? |
| 10:46 | <olet> | other than that i'm not the one to ask about iptables rules |
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| 10:47 | <olet> | no i mean that you want to block the source from making more connections if it tries to connect 4 times |
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| 10:47 | <olet> | the source port is irrelevant |
| 10:48 | <edbian> | olet: Are you saying I'm on the wrong chain? |
| 10:49 | <olet> | no |
| 10:49 | <olet> | i only wanted to correct your wording |
| 10:49 | <olet> | nothing more |
| 10:49 | <edbian> | ooo! :) Thanks |
| 10:49 | <edbian> | lol |
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| 10:49 | <stew> | edbian: if you are going to use --dport you need a -p tcp |
| 10:50 | <edbian> | I am trying to write an iptables rule for my ssh server. I want it to drop packets if some source makes 4 attempts in 3 minutes. Is this correct? -A INPUT --dport 22 -m recent --name attacker --update --seconds 180 --hitcount 4 -j DROP |
| 10:50 | <edbian> | stew: Like this? -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -m recent --name attacker --update --seconds 180 --hitcount 4 -j DROP |
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| 10:52 | <xeon-enouf> | edbian: i believe debian-administration.org has a nice article |
| 10:52 | <edbian> | xeon-enouf: I'm looking some of those up right now. |
| 10:52 | <edbian> | :) |
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| 10:52 | <bja> | edbian: first you need to writedown the ip where things are comming from |
| 10:53 | <bja> | after that you use that line |
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| 10:53 | <edbian> | Yeah. I found a tutorial that I think I'm going to try that suggests that method. http://snowman.net/projects/ipt_recent/ |
| 10:53 | <edbian> | example 2 |
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| 10:54 | <bja> | that is the homepage of the module you are using |
| 10:55 | <xeon-enouf> | i have it bookmarked but i can't ssh into my other pc to retrieve them and i''m using two separate keyboards totype this, since they are both broke a bit, new one soon.. but it'll be like my 5th this year |
| 10:55 | <edbian> | lol |
| 10:55 | <edbian> | Why are you breaking so many keyboards? Are you an ogre? With ogre fingers? |
| 10:56 | <xeon-enouf> | indeed |
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| 10:56 | <Jason1> | lol |
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| 10:56 | <edbian> | Does anybody have the page I linked up? Why is he using the FORWARD chain? Shouldn't this all be on the INPUT chain? |
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| 10:58 | <xeon-enouf> | havingabrokenspacebarisveryannoying,isn'tit? |
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| 10:58 | <bja> | xeon-enouf: at_least_use_the_underscore,_it's_less_anoying |
| 10:58 | <Jason1> | yesitisveryannoying. |
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| 10:59 | <xeon-enouf> | bje good one |
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| 11:01 | <edbian> | -A FORWARD -m recent --update --seconds 60 -j DROP RULE2 -> -A FORWARD -p tcp --dport 22 -m recent --name attacker --seconds 180 --hitcount 4 --set -j DROP |
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| 11:01 | <edbian> | How does that look to everybody? |
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| 11:02 | <bja> | wrong |
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| 11:02 | <bja> | you allways deny the acces to your port |
| 11:02 | <bja> | at least once you have to let it through |
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| 11:02 | <bja> | as a mater of fact you have to let them in 4 times |
| 11:03 | <edbian> | that's what I was afraid of |
| 11:03 | <edbian> | How can I fix it? |
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| 11:03 | <Jason1> | then do it 1 times |
| 11:03 | <edbian> | some sort of ESTABLESHED/RELATED line? |
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| 11:10 | <bja> | edbian: http://pastebin.com/m5291e153 |
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| 11:11 | <edbian> | Do I need to specify my interface? |
| 11:11 | <bja> | Better safe than sorry |
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| 11:12 | <bja> | your interface can be eth0 or whatever you have connected to the internet |
| 11:12 | <edbian> | Yeah |
| 11:12 | <edbian> | I only have the 1 (eth0) which is why I asked |
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| 11:12 | <edbian> | can I used --update instead of --rcheck? |
| 11:13 | <edbian> | bja: Thank you sooo much for your help! |
| 11:13 | <bja> | edbian: np |
| 11:13 | <edbian> | BTW why is it on the forward chain and not the input chain? |
| 11:13 | <edbian> | I don't forward any connections anywhere |
| 11:13 | <bja> | because you chose to post on the forward chain |
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| 11:13 | <bja> | then use the INPUT chain |
| 11:14 | <edbian> | that's what I figured. Just wanted to make sure! |
| 11:14 | <edbian> | Thanks again for all of your help! |
| 11:14 | <bja> | :) |
| 11:14 | <edbian> | These stupid ssh bots are sooo annoying. They clog up the servers network card so badly it won't respond to a ping! |
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| 11:17 | <joeh> | I have Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g wireless on my machine, after installing lenny updates its not working |
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| 11:17 | <joeh> | can this be fixed ? |
| 11:18 | <joeh> | it was working on lenny before i installed the updates |
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| 11:19 | <edbian> | bja: Suppose I accidentally get myself blocked because I fail to type my password correctly too many times. Does this rule ever remove ip's from the list? |
| 11:19 | <edbian> | Or will I have to wait until I get home to fix the problem? |
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| 11:20 | <gregorio1982> | ciao ubuntu italian pls?? |
| 11:21 | <edbian> | type my password *incorrectly too many... |
| 11:21 | <edbian> | scratch that ^ lol |
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| 11:22 | <joeh> | can i get the wifi working again ? |
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| 11:23 | <bja> | edbian: time expires |
| 11:23 | <bja> | brb |
| 11:23 | <edbian> | bja: O ic! That's how recent works. |
| 11:23 | <edbian> | Thanks again guys! |
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| 11:25 | <gsimmons> | joeh: Which driver are you using for support of your device? |
| 11:26 | <joeh> | gsimmons: i had downloaded the drivers from http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php |
| 11:26 | <joeh> | and followed instructions at http://www.superjoesoftware.com/articles/dell-1525-debian-wireless, and everything was working fine |
| 11:26 | <joeh> | then i installed the updates, and then my wifi broke |
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| 11:27 | <abraham> | joeh, follow the instructions at http://www.superjoesoftware.com/articles/dell-1525-debian-wireless again and everything should work |
| 11:27 | <abraham> | you probably got a new kernel |
| 11:28 | <joeh> | abraham: ok, ill try that |
| 11:28 | <abraham> | or boot into the old kernel and it should work |
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| 11:29 | <joeh> | abraham: hot to boot into the previous kernel ? |
| 11:29 | <joeh> | i initially had 2.6.26-1-686 |
| 11:29 | <joeh> | and after updates its 2.6.26-2-686 |
| 11:29 | <abraham> | when grub shows up scroll down to select it |
| 11:29 | <joeh> | abraham: ok |
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| 11:33 | <joeh> | abraham: thank u..that worked :) |
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| 11:34 | <abraham> | n/p |
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| 11:50 | <hugodidier> | Hola amigos buen día, hablan español? |
| 11:50 | <squelos> | !es |
| 11:50 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 11:50 | <hugodidier> | tanks :-$ |
| 11:50 | <squelos> | np |
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| 11:52 | <znh> | Hello :-) |
| 11:53 | <znh> | I'm trying to get my Audigy 2 working at this Debian Lenny installation on amd64. Alsaconf sees the card and so does lspci. But once the driver is loaded, alsamixer can't find it |
| 11:53 | <znh> | I googled around, but couldn't find anything so far. Any idea's? |
| 11:54 | <xeon-enouf> | !alsa checklist |
| 11:54 | <dpkg> | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out and log in again) 2) use alsamixer and unmute channels and raise levels (also try muting some channels) 3) arts or esound stopped? 4) OSS modules unloaded? 5) speakers on? 6) modprobe snd-pcm-oss 7) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? Test your sound with aplay and a wav so codec issues don't confuse the situation. See also <list alsa users>. |
| 11:54 | <xeon-enouf> | znh: |
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| 11:55 | <znh> | how do I unload the OSS modules? |
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| 11:55 | <xeon-enouf> | dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base znh |
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| 11:56 | <znh> | alsamixer can't find it. so i'm stuck at step 2 |
| 11:56 | <znh> | tried the alsa/oss selection, but didnt help |
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| 11:57 | <xeon-enouf> | znh: did you allow writing to /etc/modprobe.d/ when doing alsacomf |
| 11:57 | <xeon-enouf> | ? |
| 11:57 | <znh> | yes |
| 11:57 | <xeon-enouf> | you don't need alsamixer for audio |
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| 11:58 | <znh> | in order to raise the levels and thus hear the audio, yes I do need it |
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| 11:58 | <xeon-enouf> | < znh> alsamixer can't find it <-- i have no idea what that means |
| 11:58 | <xeon-enouf> | no you don't |
| 11:59 | <xeon-enouf> | do you really think alsamixer is the ONLY way to control audio levels? |
| 11:59 | <znh> | # alsamixer |
| 11:59 | <znh> | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory |
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| 11:59 | <znh> | obviously it's not, but gnome's applet fails either |
| 12:00 | <xeon-enouf> | gnome? ewww system>>sound>> or something |
| 12:00 | <xeon-enouf> | !gnome |
| 12:00 | <dpkg> | rumour has it, gnome is a Desktop Environment ("DE", so are <KDE> and <XFCE>) based on GTK+. To get GNOME, ask me about <install gnome>. See also <gnome status>. http:/wiki.debian.org/Gnome http://www.gnome.org/ #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org. |
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| 12:38 | <squelos> | helli |
| 12:38 | <squelos> | hello |
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| 12:41 | <icarus> | hi i was thinking about swithing from ubuntu to debian is this a bad idea? |
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| 12:42 | <squelos> | no |
| 12:42 | <squelos> | its a good idea. |
| 12:42 | <squelos> | ubuntu is a debian basically. |
| 12:42 | <icarus> | what would be the benfits? |
| 12:42 | <cahoot> | icarus: why? |
| 12:42 | <squelos> | but ubuntu is a bit slower and more user friendly. |
| 12:43 | <manuel> | do you know if FLTK is maintained? |
| 12:43 | <icarus> | ubuntu sucks |
| 12:43 | <squelos> | icarus : i tried ubuntu, suse |
| 12:43 | <squelos> | and debian. |
| 12:43 | <squelos> | and here i am :) |
| 12:43 | <squelos> | what sucks with ubuntu ? |
| 12:43 | <icarus> | nothing ever fucking works |
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| 12:44 | <llutz> | which usually is a layer-8 problem |
| 12:44 | <dondelelcaro> | manuel: it should be |
| 12:44 | <icarus> | should i just study more? |
| 12:45 | <dondelelcaro> | manuel: what's the problem? |
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| 12:51 | <squelos> | icarus => probably |
| 12:51 | <squelos> | me too, its the same |
| 12:51 | <squelos> | i got problems making stuff work |
| 12:51 | <squelos> | but remember, once its working on linux, its working |
| 12:51 | <squelos> | no need to reformat etc ... |
| 12:51 | <squelos> | ive be blowing my ass off for 4 days straight. Im not finished with configuring/installing etc ... but i think its worth it |
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| 12:58 | <manuel> | dondelelcaro, I can't find information for showing icons (open folder, colsed folder, plus, etc) in the browser widget |
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| 13:08 | <squelos> | hello, i need help installing compiz. I get a segmentation error. |
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| 13:08 | <squelos> | http://pastebin.com/m5ddf1d64 |
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| 13:52 | <Oyashiro> | i have one question, does Debian support GA-EX58-UD4P motheboard, because when i installes Debian form CD it didn't recognised my network controller |
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| 13:53 | <jimjh> | im using lenny, and i would like to install kde 4.2 on it. I did the steps given on http://linuxsaga.com/guide/kde-42-in-debian-testing-lenny |
| 13:53 | <jimjh> | but when i do aptitude -t experimental install kde4 |
| 13:54 | <jimjh> | i get couldnt find package kde4 |
| 13:54 | <jimjh> | any way to solve this ? |
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| 13:57 | <coucouf> | if you read the link you posted, at the top of the post it is written NOT to use the instuctions |
| 13:58 | <coucouf> | kde 4 requires many dependencies not in Lenny so it's would be a better idea to upgrade to squeeze |
| 13:58 | <jimjh> | ok |
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| 14:10 | <tbrock> | guys, is there any way to install a newer version of hellanzb? |
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| 14:11 | <tbrock> | I'm rockin lenny |
| 14:11 | <tbrock> | but version .13 is broke |
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| 14:26 | <deximat> | evening |
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| 14:29 | <klharris> | hello, im using dell inspiron 1525 laptop with lenny installed. I installed compiz by running the command "sudo apt-get install compiz compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-gnome compiz-fusion-plugins-main" |
| 14:29 | <klharris> | also installed the compizconfig-settings-manager and fusion-icon |
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| 14:30 | <klharris> | but if i enable effects from the settings manager they are not taking effect, and also i dont see the icon for fusion-icon in my tray |
| 14:30 | <klharris> | any way to fix this ? |
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| 14:32 | <klharris> | running lspci shows : http://paste.ubuntu.com/251532/ |
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| 14:33 | <locklace> | "paste.ubuntu.com"? |
| 14:33 | <locklace> | fail |
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| 14:34 | <olet> | locklace: it's at least better than paste directly to chan |
| 14:34 | <olet> | :) |
| 14:34 | <bja> | !lart locklace |
| 14:34 | * | dpkg urinates on locklace |
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| 14:35 | <klharris> | could there be a problem with my hardware ? |
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| 14:36 | <klharris> | or do i need to install any drivers ? |
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| 14:36 | <bja> | dpkg: tell klharris about unix lessons |
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| 14:38 | <rjent> | Greetings, is anyone familiar with rtp streams and best way to pull out a jpeg image? I would like something like wget. |
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| 14:45 | <olet> | rjent: maybe you can use mplayer for it with it's jpeg output driver |
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| 14:47 | <rjent> | olet: First thanks for the reply. Ok I can put this on my list of possible solutions. It would sure be handy just to be able to have wget pull the first image. |
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| 14:47 | <rjent> | I may lookup the maintainers of wget and see if it is something they could consider |
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| 14:49 | <edbian> | Some jerk is brute force attacking my ssh server. I wrote some iptables rules to block him but it apparently there are so many login attempts it overloads my server after 10 - 15 min. The server becomes unresponsive. What else can I do? I can pastebin the iptables rules if you'd like. |
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| 14:50 | <bja> | edbian: do it |
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| 14:51 | <edbian> | bja: Alright hang on. |
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| 14:53 | <edbian> | bja: http://pastebin.com/dae75345 |
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| 14:53 | <edbian> | I thought that iptables shoud be robust enough to not let the server freeze. Is this wrong? Do I need to filter at the router? |
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| 14:54 | <bja> | edbian: iptables is case sensitive, did you copy paste? |
| 14:54 | <edbian> | i did copy / paste |
| 14:54 | <edbian> | Where is there a case typo? |
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| 14:55 | <edbian> | bja: I accidentally cut stuff off |
| 14:55 | <bja> | wait a sec i'll fix it |
| 14:56 | <edbian> | refresh |
| 14:56 | <bja> | ok |
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| 14:57 | <edbian> | What is wrong with these rules? |
| 14:57 | <edbian> | Can I venture a guess? : Is it that very last word "ACCEPT" ? |
| 15:00 | <bja> | edbian: you pasted out of a pager, your rules are incomplete |
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| 15:01 | <edbian> | yeah here: http://pastebin.com/m1d6b53c6 |
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| 15:01 | <edbian> | I corrected it |
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| 15:06 | <edbian> | bja: Sorry if this is rude but, are you there?? |
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| 15:07 | <bja> | edbian: no its not rude, i'm doing some editing, its almost done |
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| 15:08 | <edbian> | bja: Ok! :) Thanks for the help |
| 15:09 | <bja> | edbian: http://pastebin.com/m7770fa5e |
| 15:09 | <bja> | try those, I'm solving today that same isue |
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| 15:10 | <edbian> | really? |
| 15:10 | <edbian> | Is it working for you yet? |
| 15:10 | <bja> | yes it is working |
| 15:10 | <bja> | i limited attempts to 5 every hour |
| 15:10 | <edbian> | What else did you change? the --rcheck and --update flags. |
| 15:11 | <bja> | on iptables you have to call one module per rule, i don't know why but it works best this way |
| 15:11 | <bja> | you called the -m tcp and -m recent, i also changed the -p to capital TCP |
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| 15:12 | <fgh> | hi |
| 15:12 | <fgh> | hi sa jag vafan |
| 15:12 | <bja> | that is how i have them running, i also mention the sources as -s 0.0.0.0/0 |
| 15:12 | <bja> | !en |
| 15:12 | <dpkg> | The language of #debian is English. We will do our best to help you regardless of your level of English but you might be more comfortable asking for help in your own language. Ask me about your language code for more information, for example /msg dpkg br ; /msg dpkg pt ; /msg dpkg es ; /msg dpkg fr ; /msg dpkg de |
| 15:12 | <fgh> | hi is en, yes |
| 15:13 | <bja> | hi might be in english, depending on the context, |
| 15:13 | <bja> | ) |
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| 15:13 | <edbian> | ok |
| 15:13 | <edbian> | I'm testing no |
| 15:13 | <fgh> | the context was i joined the channel |
| 15:13 | <edbian> | now* |
| 15:14 | <bja> | fgh: Excuse me, "sa jag vafen" is not on my personal dictionary, i made a mistake sorry |
| 15:14 | <bja> | fgh: didn't mean to be rude |
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| 15:14 | <fgh> | np |
| 15:15 | <fgh> | yw |
| 15:15 | <bja> | btw what does that mean? |
| 15:15 | <OdyX> | "no problem" |
| 15:15 | <OdyX> | "I love you too" |
| 15:16 | <bja> | I meant "sa jag vafen" |
| 15:16 | <OdyX> | and "by the way, does that mean we are in love?" |
| 15:16 | <OdyX> | :p |
| 15:16 | <bja> | :D |
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| 15:17 | <fgh> | i dont know bja, its not english :( |
| 15:17 | <bja> | lol |
| 15:17 | <OdyX> | its a cat on a keyboard |
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| 15:19 | <edbian> | bja: I just opened port 22. I'll keep you updated! |
| 15:19 | <bja> | edbian: lmk if it works |
| 15:20 | <fgh> | me too edbian |
| 15:21 | <edbian> | I'm on the up and up soo far. I've got a ping going every 5 seconds |
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| 15:24 | <chrisben> | hello everyone. is there a way to make dpkg forget that a package is installed but not uninstall it? (or at least stob bothering me about dependancies that I --forced ? |
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| 15:29 | <abraham> | christaben set it to prefer the installed version |
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| 15:29 | <abraham> | i dont know if that will work or not though |
| 15:30 | <abraham> | it depends on whether or not its broken or breaking things |
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| 15:32 | <chrisben> | I'm running etch, I compiled a package from lenny sources |
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| 15:32 | <abraham> | its probably broken then and shouldnt be on your system |
| 15:32 | <chrisben> | one of the depends was a perl module, which I instlled thru cpan, it wasn't installable without installing a bunch of other stuff. |
| 15:33 | <chrisben> | it works great, the package is just a perl module. (amavisd-new) |
| 15:34 | <chrisben> | the only issue is apt-get -f install keeps trying to uninstall it. |
| 15:34 | <chrisben> | (I hade to --force-depends to make it install. |
| 15:34 | <abraham> | i dont know how to shut apt up |
| 15:34 | <abraham> | not in that case' |
| 15:35 | <chrisben> | k, thanks anyway! |
| 15:37 | <edbian> | bja: fgh: So far so good. I didn't write a log rule in iptables so I don't know for sure if it's actually blocking any attempts but usually by this time my server has locked up. |
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| 15:38 | <Guest186> | ohyes |
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| 15:51 | <chrisben> | cool, found it. |
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| 15:51 | <chrisben> | fyi, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=501032 creating a dummy package |
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| 15:53 | <abraham> | cool ill check it out |
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| 16:24 | <ituxicity> | hi, I am trying to install initng on lenny but i can't find the goddam package |
| 16:24 | <mason_> | hello , how to install fluxbox if i have gnome |
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| 16:27 | <mason_> | hello, how do you install fluxbox on debian? Changing from gnome to fluxbox |
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| 16:28 | <ituxicity> | mason_, apt-get install openbox openbox-themes |
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| 16:28 | <ituxicity> | then you logout from your session |
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| 16:28 | <mason_> | so first you do apt-get install fluxbox |
| 16:28 | <mason_> | then the openbox command |
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| 16:29 | <ituxicity> | and then once you are in the GDM you change your session to openbox and provide your user/pass |
| 16:29 | <ituxicity> | sorry |
| 16:29 | <ituxicity> | apt-get install fluxbox |
| 16:29 | <ituxicity> | forget about openbox :), that's the one i'm using |
| 16:30 | <mason_> | do i need the x window system |
| 16:30 | <ituxicity> | i guess so |
| 16:31 | <marcel> | mason_: if you want a graphical dekstop yes |
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| 16:32 | <ituxicity> | marcel, is there any chance you know about initng? |
| 16:33 | <marcel> | infernix: what is youre question? |
| 16:33 | <mason_> | whats GDM stand for? |
| 16:33 | <ituxicity> | all the depositories i've found are down |
| 16:33 | <ituxicity> | i cant find the package to install it |
| 16:33 | <marcel> | mason_: GNOME Display Manager |
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| 16:33 | <marcel> | ituxicity: what package do you want to install? |
| 16:33 | <ituxicity> | mason_, it's the login screen |
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| 16:34 | <ituxicity> | marcel, initng |
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| 16:34 | <marcel> | infernix: sec ill check here.. youre running lenny? |
| 16:34 | <ituxicity> | yep |
| 16:34 | <edbian> | bja: fgh: My server is frozen! |
| 16:34 | <marcel> | musca: gdm is not neccery of you like to keep it minimal. you can start x by the command startx |
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| 16:35 | <edbian> | I think it's because of these ssh brute force attacks but how can I check? |
| 16:35 | <marcel> | ituxicity: there doenst seem to be a package called initng in the repos |
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| 16:36 | <edbian> | bja: fgh: Are you guys there? |
| 16:36 | <marcel> | musca: s/of/if/ |
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| 16:36 | <ituxicity> | it's a package that comes in replacement to sysvinit |
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| 16:36 | <ituxicity> | apparently it makes your machine boots faster but it is quite experimental |
| 16:37 | <marcel> | edbian: check /var/log/auth.log perhaps? |
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| 16:37 | <edbian> | marcel: Well since I wrote this iptables rule the ssh server never even sees the log in attempts |
| 16:37 | <marcel> | edbian: well i cant find it in non-free nor can i find it in the bpo. you might need to build it from source if you REALLY need it |
| 16:37 | <edbian> | plus the server is non-responsive |
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| 16:38 | <edbian> | marcel: Need what? |
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| 16:38 | <marcel> | edbian: 22:30 < ituxicity> marcel, initng |
| 16:38 | <marcel> | infernix: http://forum.initng.org/viewforum.php?f=8 |
| 16:39 | <edbian> | Can anybody help me with my ssh brute force attacks? |
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| 16:39 | <marcel> | edbian: sorry cant help you there.. never needed to learn about that. |
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| 16:40 | <edbian> | I set iptables to block brute force ssh attacks via these rules: http://pastebin.com/m7770fa5e Problem is I get so many attacks my server is going unresponsive. |
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| 16:40 | <marcel> | edbian: why are you being brute forced? |
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| 16:41 | <edbian> | no idea |
| 16:41 | <edbian> | some idiot wrote a bot that guesses user names and passwords |
| 16:41 | <marcel> | aah mkay |
| 16:41 | <marcel> | edbian: have you though about switchen to another port? they mostely go for port 22. |
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| 16:42 | <edbian> | Yeah |
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| 16:42 | <edbian> | That's a work around but the server shouldn't be freezing simply because it has to drop a lot of packets should it? It is modest hardware. |
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| 16:43 | <marcel> | edbian: well not the whole machine but, perhaps the connection... |
| 16:43 | <craigevil> | ituxicity: take a look at http://wiki.debian.org/BootProcessSpeedup |
| 16:43 | <marcel> | edbian: dont know to be honest. never had that |
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| 16:44 | <edbian> | The whole machine is becoming frozen. |
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| 16:44 | <olet> | what hardware is it? |
| 16:45 | <edbian> | amd 400MHz processor |
| 16:45 | <edbian> | 128 MB ram |
| 16:45 | <olet> | and nic? |
| 16:45 | <edbian> | 10/100 |
| 16:45 | <olet> | brand/model? |
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| 16:46 | <olet> | actually just give the output of lspci ;) |
| 16:46 | <edbian> | 00:05.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c900B-TPO Etherlink XL [Cyclone] (rev 04) |
| 16:47 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 419] by debhelper |
| 16:47 | <edbian> | Kernel driver in use: 3c59x |
| 16:47 | <edbian> | Kernel modules: 3c59x |
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| 16:50 | <edbian> | Cancel all of this. I think the PC is overheating |
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| 16:53 | <ituxicity> | thanks craigevil |
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| 16:57 | <squelos> | !compiz |
| 16:57 | <dpkg> | Compiz is a compositing window manager using OpenGL for rendering. It can run when <AIGLX> and the composite extension are enabled for your X server; see http://wiki.debian.org/Compiz for installation, configuration and usage details. Current state of Compiz (et al) in unstable can be found at http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/Compiz . http://www.compiz.org/ #compiz on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 17:38 | <hrvoje> | in Kdevelop i get error while compiling: kdevelop ../libtool: line 2415: mkdir /.libs: No such file or directory mkdir: cannot create directory `/.libs': Permission denied |
| 17:38 | <hrvoje> | is problem that libtool is too new? |
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| 17:45 | <chealer> | hrvoje: it doesn't look like that to me - it looks like kdevelop is missing permission to work in some directory |
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| 17:47 | <hrvoje> | chealer: yes I would also say that by "permission denied" but then again it always have only user privilages (if not ran as root) and I did some researchin and some said it needs libtool 2.2 which is older |
| 17:47 | <themill> | It sounds like the project directory is not defined correctly. It's trying to build stuff in / which is plain wrong |
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| 17:48 | <hrvoje> | themill: i just do "mkdir projects" in my home dir with $ so don't know what should be wrong. |
| 17:48 | <chealer> | hum, themill seems right |
| 17:48 | <themill> | chealer: don't sound so surprised :P |
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| 17:50 | <chealer> | hrvoje: what do you mean by "libtool 2.2 which is older"? |
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| 17:50 | <hrvoje> | but maybe that "/" is just refered to "~/projects" |
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| 17:50 | <chealer> | themill: hehe :) |
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| 17:51 | <chealer> | hrvoje: unlikely |
| 17:52 | <hrvoje> | chealer: sorry, libtool 1.5,, quotes from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdevelop/+bug/253286 : "so I installed libtool 1.5 in the place of libtool 2.4 which is contained in the Ubuntu 8.10" |
| 17:53 | <hrvoje> | and I have 2.2.6a-4 (on testing) |
| 17:54 | <hrvoje> | so maybe I should run "aptitude remove libtool && -t stable install libtool" |
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| 17:56 | <hrvoje> | hm.. didn't solve the problem |
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| 17:58 | <hrvoje> | maybe the problem is in "Optional libraries to link to" which is set to "-lm" or Optional include path" which is "-l/usr/include" |
| 17:58 | <xeon-enouf> | so much for = signs |
| 17:59 | <chealer> | hrvoje: see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=530521 |
| 17:59 | <hrvoje> | it's actually ok now with old libtool :) i restart Kdevelop and recompile project |
| 17:59 | <chealer> | hrvoje: target-release is ignored unless you have a source for that release |
| 18:01 | <hrvoje> | chealer: sorry didn't get it |
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| 18:02 | <chealer> | hrvoje: you didn't get what? I was stating that "aptitude remove libtool && -t stable install libtool" may be idempotent if you have no stable APT source |
| 18:03 | <deniz> | what is the package name called of keyboard shortcuts in gnome's preferences? |
| 18:03 | <hrvoje> | chealer: ah that you meant.. I know lol but I have it in my repo :)) |
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| 18:06 | <hrvoje> | deniz: sorry I don't understand your question |
| 18:07 | <deniz> | System-->Preferences-->Keyboard Shortcuts in GNOME what's the package name so that i can see which version it is using apt-cache policy |
| 18:07 | <deniz> | hrvoje, ^ |
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| 18:08 | <hrvoje> | deniz: sorry am using KDE so can't check it, but try to look under installed packages with description sth like "keyboard shortcuts" |
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| 18:13 | <adama> | how can I get a usb drive that is mounted on /dev/sdc to be remounted on /dev/sdb |
| 18:13 | <adama> | err not mounted |
| 18:13 | <adama> | located |
| 18:13 | <hrvoje> | adama: and you don't have /dev/sdb entry at all? |
| 18:14 | <deniz> | hrvoje, there is only a help thing which doesnt seem to answer my question but thx anyways, ill check more thoroughly later |
| 18:14 | <adama> | hrvoje: nope. |
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| 18:15 | <hrvoje> | deniz: aptitude search keyboard shortcut | sort -k 1 |
| 18:15 | <adama> | I know (think) unplugging it and replugging it would put it on /dev/sdb but it's remote |
| 18:15 | <hrvoje> | deniz: or apt-cache search isntead of aptitude search.. and see all with little i (should be first ones) |
| 18:16 | <deniz> | i alredy did that actually |
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| 18:17 | <hrvoje> | adama: try to repopulate /dev |
| 18:17 | <adama> | how? |
| 18:17 | <elif> | dear friends |
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| 18:18 | <elif> | can I install vmware workstation in debian |
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| 18:18 | <hrvoje> | adama: I don't know actually, am googling, you also try |
| 18:18 | <hrvoje> | alif: yes |
| 18:18 | <hrvoje> | elif |
| 18:19 | <elif> | how |
| 18:19 | <hrvoje> | elif: add a repo on their site |
| 18:19 | <elif> | I trien in ubuntu but I can not successfull |
| 18:19 | <hrvoje> | elif: oh sry it's for VirtualBox.. :p hm... |
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| 18:19 | <hrvoje> | elif: but you should be able to install VMware also, have you tried? |
| 18:20 | <RBorges> | [Problem after Installation!][Problem after Installation!] Hey guys, please, after grub the initialization process stops at "Loading, please wait", and never go, who knows what can be wrong? |
| 18:20 | <RBorges> | ps: Lenny version |
| 18:20 | <elif> | can I see my harddisk or com port like this in virtualbox |
| 18:21 | <hrvoje> | elif: yes, but it's better to use non-os version coz of USBs.. |
| 18:21 | <hrvoje> | elif: you need to share a directory |
| 18:21 | <elif> | it is ok.. |
| 18:22 | <elif> | ı tried virtualbox... I could not see anything exep CD |
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| 18:23 | <hrvoje> | you set it? |
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| 18:24 | <elif> | thank you I will try again Virtualbox.. |
| 18:24 | <ml|> | don't you need to install vbox tools or something for sharing to work |
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| 18:25 | <hrvoje> | it's probably dependency, i don't remember installing it extra and all worked fine |
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| 18:29 | <elif> | thank you everybody... see you later |
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| 18:29 | <RBorges> | [Problem after Installation!] Hey guys, please, after grub the initialization process stops at "Loading, please wait", and never go, who knows what can be wrong? |
| 18:29 | <RBorges> | <RBorges> ps: Lenny version |
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| 18:31 | <hrvoje> | RBorges: at what point? can you boot kernel? |
| 18:31 | <RBorges> | I can't |
| 18:31 | <hrvoje> | and you're now on the same comp.? |
| 18:31 | <RBorges> | the installation process seems ok at the end, no erros |
| 18:32 | <RBorges> | yeah.... in vista (other partition) |
| 18:32 | <ml|> | RBorges: maybe try reinstalling grub, tho i don't dual boot |
| 18:32 | <hrvoje> | did you install GRUB in MBR? |
| 18:33 | <ml|> | !fixmbr |
| 18:33 | <dpkg> | To reinstall <GRUB> simply boot to your Debian install disk, live CD or whatever else you have, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev), then chroot into it (chroot /target) then run "mount /proc ; update-grub && grub-install /dev/hda". Also ask me about <rescue mode> and <dual boot guide>. |
| 18:33 | <ml|> | dpkg: tell RBorges about dual boot |
| 18:33 | <RBorges> | yes I installed grub in MBR |
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| 18:34 | <hrvoje> | then try to reconfigure or reinstall it with some LiveCD |
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| 18:34 | <RBorges> | hmm nice |
| 18:34 | <insigne> | oi |
| 18:34 | <hrvoje> | you were given instructions, just probably not ext2... |
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| 18:35 | <insigne> | sou brasileira |
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| 18:36 | <RBorges> | hey hrvoje, thanks |
| 18:36 | <RBorges> | I will try |
| 18:36 | <hrvoje> | no problem ;) |
| 18:37 | <hrvoje> | or maybe just check the entries in /boot/grub/menu.list |
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| 18:37 | <hrvoje> | *lst sry |
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| 18:39 | <X_100_Destino_X> | boa noite pessoa.... |
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| 18:56 | <hrvoje> | my dead keys (AltGr) don't work properly in gtk apps and konsole |
| 18:56 | <hrvoje> | (am running KDE) |
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| 18:57 | <hrvoje> | and I think that happened during the downgrade from unstable to testing so probably some package was left or xorg damaged |
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| 19:17 | <bebop> | !list |
| 19:17 | <dpkg> | bebop: VATTENE VIA |
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| 19:20 | <themill> | judd: pciid 8086:4229 |
| 19:20 | <judd> | themill: [8086:4229] is 'PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel module 'iwl4965' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:4229 http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi http://wiki.debian.org/iwlagn |
| 19:20 | <themill> | gsimmons: ^^ we were talking about getting judd to provide wiki links for modules a few weeks back -- it now does :) Thanks for the pointer to that information. |
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| 19:26 | <ml|> | !beer themill |
| 19:26 | * | dpkg deftly decants a fine Spaten Optimator for themill |
| 19:26 | <ml|> | themill: good job :) |
| 19:26 | <themill> | cheers |
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| 19:39 | <altona123> | sers |
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| 19:40 | <altona123> | i wanted to install gnash but iceweasel still used flash-nonfree. i tried to erase all flashplugins but still about:plugins mentions «libflashplayer.so» and i am able to use youtube. libflashplayer.so doesnt exist on /. can anyone help? |
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| 19:43 | <Zathras_> | altona123, you have to delete or purge the package(s), not the files |
| 19:43 | <Zathras_> | then restart the browser to take it into effect |
| 19:44 | <Zathras_> | then install gnash |
| 19:44 | <Zathras_> | and restart browser again |
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| 19:44 | <altona123> | i typed: apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree |
| 19:45 | <altona123> | and restarted the browser via killall xulrunner-stub as root |
| 19:45 | <altona123> | i mean killed |
| 19:45 | <altona123> | and then restarted |
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| 20:09 | <ituxicity> | i have a pypanel appearing at startup |
| 20:09 | <ituxicity> | and i have no idea why |
| 20:09 | <ituxicity> | can someone help me on that one? |
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| 20:10 | <hashheadz> | i need help |
| 20:10 | <ituxicity> | me too :) |
| 20:10 | <hashheadz> | anyone know how to allow just ppp to a user and any other device like eth* |
| 20:10 | <hashheadz> | and not any other device like eth* |
| 20:11 | <hashheadz> | e.g just allow bitchx to use ppp |
| 20:11 | <hashheadz> | and everything else like tv stream apps for lan |
| 20:11 | <ituxicity> | you mean ppp-chap-secrets file? |
| 20:11 | <hashheadz> | what u need help with ituxicity |
| 20:11 | <hashheadz> | dunno |
| 20:11 | <hashheadz> | i can connect with both devices e.g ppp and wlan0 |
| 20:11 | <ituxicity> | hashheadz, let start with you |
| 20:12 | <hashheadz> | but i want to seperate em..sosay load a program with user id mobile and connect via just ppp i can use |
| 20:12 | <hashheadz> | and my default connection left alone for all other users |
| 20:12 | <hashheadz> | u get wat i mean |
| 20:12 | <ituxicity> | nope |
| 20:12 | <ituxicity> | i mean i dont see what the ppp connection is doing here |
| 20:13 | <hashheadz> | ok ppp connect is giving me seperate ip for Xchat |
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| 20:13 | <ituxicity> | a ppp connection is point to point therefore only one client can use it, unless you had routing and nat |
| 20:13 | <hashheadz> | so i can limit the attack via irc ppl |
| 20:13 | <ituxicity> | ok |
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| 20:13 | <hashheadz> | and i have a local connect that users dsl |
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| 20:13 | <hashheadz> | whcih everythingn is connecting too |
| 20:14 | <hashheadz> | but i want just Xchat to use the spare ppp connection i have |
| 20:14 | <hashheadz> | e.g my mobile phone connection |
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| 20:14 | <ituxicity> | where is connected your mobile phone? |
| 20:14 | <hashheadz> | usb |
| 20:14 | <hashheadz> | ttyacm0 |
| 20:15 | <ituxicity> | i have no idea how to do that |
| 20:15 | <ituxicity> | i thought it was a routing issue, maybe a proxy issue but what you're telling me i dont know about |
| 20:15 | <hashheadz> | can i allow just a user to access just that connection and deny it all other connections like dsl wlan0 |
| 20:15 | <ituxicity> | sure you can |
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| 20:16 | <hashheadz> | ok how would i do that |
| 20:16 | <ituxicity> | you have to tag your traffic somehow |
| 20:16 | <ituxicity> | your traffic comes from separated connections? |
| 20:16 | <hashheadz> | how do i tag just xchat traffic or user 'spare' |
| 20:16 | <hashheadz> | no all traffic coming from 1 connection at moment |
| 20:16 | <hashheadz> | wlan0 |
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| 20:17 | <hashheadz> | i want to plug in phone ..e.g. ttysacm0 |
| 20:17 | <hashheadz> | and connect via that |
| 20:17 | <hashheadz> | with just user 'spare' |
| 20:17 | <hashheadz> | via just either loging in to user 'spare' |
| 20:17 | <hashheadz> | and still have access to wlan0 in my normal user enviroment |
| 20:17 | <exploit> | hi |
| 20:18 | <hashheadz> | e.g not in user 'spare' enviroment |
| 20:18 | <ituxicity> | hashheadz, you need to give me a better picture: what's connected to what and what you want to do exactly |
| 20:18 | <hashheadz> | ok wlan0 is connected to dsl under user 1 |
| 20:18 | <hashheadz> | user 1 can log in to user 2 |
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| 20:19 | <ituxicity> | user 1 can log in to user 2? what does that mean? |
| 20:19 | <hashheadz> | and i want user 2 have no access to anything apart from ttysacm0 |
| 20:19 | <hashheadz> | when it is connected |
| 20:19 | <abraham> | i cant right click on my desktop anymore what do i need to run? |
| 20:19 | <hashheadz> | or just my local lan |
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| 20:20 | <ituxicity> | sorry hashheadz i dont get it |
| 20:20 | <hashheadz> | normally i would load a emulator and locad the client in that to access just the usb stuff |
| 20:20 | <abrotman> | hashheadz: i think maybe iptables can do it |
| 20:20 | <hashheadz> | so i have 2 seperate ips and access to local area connect |
| 20:20 | <hashheadz> | ye but how |
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| 20:21 | <southernc> | abraham: |
| 20:21 | <southernc> | go to your applications menu. Under System Tools -> Configuration editor. |
| 20:21 | <southernc> | Use the left tree view to navigate to: apps -> nautilus ->preferences and make sure that the 'show_desktop' option IS CHECKED. |
| 20:21 | <abraham> | it is |
| 20:22 | <ituxicity> | hashheadz, the "usb stuff" is a network connection? |
| 20:22 | <hashheadz> | yes |
| 20:22 | <hashheadz> | a phone |
| 20:22 | <ituxicity> | aaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 20:22 | <southernc> | abraham open a terminal type nautilus |
| 20:22 | <hashheadz> | like a dongle connection |
| 20:22 | <ituxicity> | ok |
| 20:22 | <hashheadz> | its vodafone |
| 20:22 | <hashheadz> | i use a motorla to connect to the net |
| 20:22 | <ituxicity> | then yeah you need to configure ACL with iptable |
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| 20:23 | <hrvoje> | abraham: you need to check "show icons on desktop" |
| 20:23 | <hashheadz> | can u point me to a informative example |
| 20:23 | <southernc> | abraham: leave that open and Under System -> Preferences -> Sessions, select the Current Session tab, select nautilus and set the Order to 40, and set the Style to Restart. Hit Apply and then switch to the terminal window. |
| 20:23 | <abraham> | aptitude: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 20:24 | <hrvoje> | abraham: are you trying to install Helixplayer on testing? |
| 20:24 | <abraham> | no im on lenny |
| 20:24 | <abraham> | bbl |
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| 20:24 | <hrvoje> | it should work then.. |
| 20:24 | <southernc> | ok |
| 20:25 | <southernc> | love when people ask for help then just leave |
| 20:25 | <hashheadz> | i kjnow |
| 20:25 | <ituxicity> | hashheadz, http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/iptables-tutorial.html |
| 20:25 | <ituxicity> | that's huge |
| 20:25 | <hashheadz> | thanx |
| 20:25 | <hashheadz> | just goign to read it now |
| 20:26 | <mateu> | i'm running lenny and have consistently found terrible performance with apache and mod_fastcgi when mod_deflate is enabled (which is by default). |
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| 20:27 | <mateu> | has anybody else experienced this and possibly know of a remedy besides de-configuring mod_deflate? |
| 20:27 | <hashheadz> | have u tried the threaded version |
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| 20:28 | <mateu> | of which? |
| 20:28 | <mateu> | apache-mpm-worker? |
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| 20:30 | <hashheadz> | ye u could tried that one if it is for threaded stuff |
| 20:30 | <hashheadz> | not doing much apahce laterly |
| 20:30 | <abraham> | how do i install something if my libdc++ is broken |
| 20:31 | <mateu> | hashheadz: what's your preferred web server these days? |
| 20:31 | <hashheadz> | apache |
| 20:31 | <hashheadz> | but i dont use one at moment cos i am tryign to seperate my server from my irc client |
| 20:32 | <hashheadz> | but some useless idiot took me to the iptables page taht dont explain anything |
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| 20:32 | <mateu> | separting irc client from web server, i don't understand. |
| 20:33 | * | mateu happily uses irssi-proxy with whatever irc client on top. |
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| 20:36 | <hashheadz> | ok i hacve a irc slient connected on the webserver..i want to be able to serpeate them |
| 20:36 | <hashheadz> | e.g both diff ips |
| 20:36 | <hashheadz> | so if someone like a c ip..then i wont get affected by my serverscript kiddy attacks my ir |
| 20:36 | <hashheadz> | as that on differtn ip |
| 20:37 | <hashheadz> | and the bandwidth is different |
| 20:37 | <hashheadz> | i dont have any proxys that work with ukchatterbox |
| 20:37 | <hashheadz> | as they using some kind of ip updated client to detect proxies |
| 20:38 | <hashheadz> | so everytime i use a public ip proxy they kick unless i am lucky enough to get one thats not in the database yet |
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| 20:46 | <mateu> | i just installed the proxy on my own vritual server, and tunnel to it with my irc client. |
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| 20:48 | <fmg> | hello - I need a hint to config the iso-8869-15 fonts for xterm, regarding the euro symbol. Is it necessary to edit /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm or is there another solution? |
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| 20:48 | <fmg> | sry - 8859-15 |
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| 20:49 | <hashheadz> | ye a virtual server from where ur own machine |
| 20:49 | <hashheadz> | or a host u paid for |
| 20:49 | <hashheadz> | as i want to do that with my own machine without the virtual host |
| 20:49 | <hashheadz> | as i can do a virtual host solution |
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| 20:50 | <mateu> | well it's the same if I have a real host or virtual host, it's just that virtual are cheaper ;) |
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| 20:51 | <hashheadz> | irtual are free if run of ur own host |
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| 20:52 | <hashheadz> | hence why i want a even simipliar soloution like tcp port 6669 redirecxted to just my usb device |
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| 20:52 | <hashheadz> | or an ip of my chioce |
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| 20:52 | <mateu> | i really don't understand the problem, sounds to me like you may be making it harder than it is. |
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| 20:52 | <hashheadz> | ok i have two internet connections |
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| 20:53 | <hashheadz> | either i run a virtual host |
| 20:53 | <hashheadz> | or i make a some kind of sctirpt or something jsut for irc to use my mobile ip |
| 20:53 | <hashheadz> | and use my main machine ip for everything else |
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| 20:53 | <mateu> | irc clients don't take bandwidth, now and irc server may. |
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| 20:53 | <hashheadz> | now why would i pay for a virtual host if i can run one |
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| 20:54 | <hashheadz> | and why should i waste resources on cpu for running a qemu |
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| 20:54 | <hashheadz> | when appartanly i can do a simply iptables config |
| 20:54 | <mateu> | your' paying for two internet connections aren't you? |
| 20:54 | <hashheadz> | which no one has an idea of |
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| 20:54 | <hashheadz> | and if it possible i would just like access to my mobile doaccess any net apart form what comes from my mobile donglengle via a user..and not have the user |
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| 20:54 | <hashheadz> | no i am paying fora moible phone |
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| 20:54 | <hashheadz> | and a dsl connect |
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| 20:55 | <hashheadz> | my mobile p[hone has free internet |
| 20:55 | <hashheadz> | wether it is http or not |
| 20:55 | <hashheadz> | not the point |
| 20:55 | <mateu> | why are you concerned about irc client bandwidth? |
| 20:55 | <hashheadz> | it gives me a spare ip to use |
| 20:55 | <hashheadz> | a public one |
| 20:55 | <hashheadz> | im not |
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| 20:55 | <mateu> | i thought that was part the issue. |
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| 20:56 | <hashheadz> | i want my ip omy mobile ipn irc to use |
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| 20:56 | <hashheadz> | and i want my download ip to use for my downloads |
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| 20:56 | <hashheadz> | e.g 8mb versus 5k |
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| 20:56 | <hashheadz> | my missus uses irc |
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| 20:56 | <mateu> | sounds like premature optimization. |
| 20:56 | <hashheadz> | i can apply a proxy to a friends computer but that does not mean it on when ever i am |
| 20:57 | <hashheadz> | unlike a personaol setup like i am trying to create |
| 20:57 | <hashheadz> | without using qemu |
| 20:57 | <hashheadz> | or such like |
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| 21:24 | <hashheadz> | wat febop |
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| 21:31 | <ret> | Heyyy, can someone help me out? I'm currently trying to use THUNAR to access and edit folders within an electronic... specifically my PlayStation portable... and the files won't save. |
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| 21:32 | <ret> | Once I close out of thunar the files act as if I didn't put them there... is there a hotkey or something to save before exiting? |
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| 21:33 | <hashheadz> | ok i know bout psp |
| 21:33 | <hashheadz> | and i am quite well verse in how it operates |
| 21:33 | <hashheadz> | what is THUNAR |
| 21:33 | <ret> | Um, isn't it the file manager? :P |
| 21:33 | <hashheadz> | ok do u wait long enoughb for the files to transfer |
| 21:33 | <ret> | I'm trying to add pictures/music but I'm unable to get them to stay there |
| 21:33 | <hashheadz> | e.g if it is 1 gig do u wait a good hour |
| 21:33 | <ret> | I tried putting on an 86KB picture |
| 21:33 | <ret> | and it didn't work. |
| 21:34 | <hashheadz> | ok |
| 21:34 | <hashheadz> | cant u p[ut em on via usb |
| 21:34 | <ret> | thats what I'm trying to do o.o |
| 21:34 | <hashheadz> | or ftp |
| 21:34 | <ret> | But nothing is saving to the PSP |
| 21:34 | <hashheadz> | ok |
| 21:34 | <hashheadz> | ok |
| 21:34 | <ret> | How would I FTP a playstation portable? |
| 21:34 | <hashheadz> | so have u mountthe psp or does the usb get mounted |
| 21:35 | <ret> | Yep |
| 21:35 | <hashheadz> | wiht ermm .....witha ftpd deamopn on the psp |
| 21:35 | <hashheadz> | or using ftp prog on psp to connecdcct to ur unix system |
| 21:35 | <ret> | =/ I can't get anything on or off, sooo... I kinda need to figure this out :P |
| 21:35 | <hashheadz> | ok we assume u not connect to ur usb |
| 21:35 | <hashheadz> | ok connect it |
| 21:35 | <ret> | okay |
| 21:35 | <ret> | done |
| 21:36 | <hashheadz> | and do a lsusb in console |
| 21:36 | <ret> | ret@Ret:~$ lsusb |
| 21:36 | <ret> | Bus 004 Device 015: ID 054c:01c8 Sony Corp. |
| 21:36 | <ret> | Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub |
| 21:36 | <ret> | Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub |
| 21:36 | <ret> | Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub |
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| 21:36 | <hashheadz> | ok so it connected |
| 21:36 | <ret> | @_@ |
| 21:36 | <ret> | yeah |
| 21:36 | <hashheadz> | so we know the lead works and it has some kind of access |
| 21:36 | <hashheadz> | ok what happens when u do dmesg | grep usb |
| 21:37 | <ret> | um |
| 21:37 | <ret> | want me to pastebin? |
| 21:37 | <ret> | there's a lot |
| 21:37 | <hashheadz> | it should give sda addy |
| 21:37 | <hashheadz> | sdb |
| 21:37 | <hashheadz> | or sdc |
| 21:37 | <hashheadz> | not sda btw |
| 21:37 | <hashheadz> | as that usually ur hdd |
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| 21:38 | <hashheadz> | ermm... ok when u ls /dev/sd'tab' what letters available |
| 21:38 | <hashheadz> | should be either sdb or sdc if u only got psp connected |
| 21:38 | <sney^> | fdisk -ls will show you your connected disks and their partition tables |
| 21:38 | <hashheadz> | u will have sdb1 or sdc1 after that tho |
| 21:38 | <sney^> | including usb stuff |
| 21:38 | <hashheadz> | thnx |
| 21:38 | <hashheadz> | sney^, |
| 21:38 | <ret> | o.o |
| 21:38 | <ret> | you guys lost me lol |
| 21:38 | <hashheadz> | i wasnt sure how u get a list of disk references |
| 21:39 | <hashheadz> | ok do fdisk -ls |
| 21:39 | <ret> | ret@Ret:~$ fdisk -ls |
| 21:39 | <ret> | bash: fdisk: command not found |
| 21:39 | <hashheadz> | in console |
| 21:39 | <sney^> | sudo |
| 21:39 | <ret> | ah |
| 21:39 | <sney^> | or be root |
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| 21:39 | <hashheadz> | sney ill let u determin if the filesystem is mounted |
| 21:39 | <hashheadz> | and i wil take over if thats ok |
| 21:39 | <ret> | /dev/sda = 1GB which is my PSP I suppose |
| 21:39 | <abrotman> | type 'mount' ? |
| 21:39 | <ret> | because it's a 1Gb memstick |
| 21:40 | <hashheadz> | ok |
| 21:40 | <hashheadz> | is it in /media/disk |
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| 21:40 | <ret> | yep |
| 21:40 | <hashheadz> | ok cd to /media/disk |
| 21:40 | <ret> | okies |
| 21:40 | <hashheadz> | do a dir and tell me if u see the system folder and that |
| 21:40 | <hashheadz> | the usualy psp folders |
| 21:40 | <ret> | Ret:/media/disk# dir |
| 21:40 | <ret> | iso memstick.ind mp_root mstk_pro.ind music picture psp video |
| 21:41 | <hashheadz> | ok |
| 21:41 | <hashheadz> | ok cd to picture |
| 21:41 | <hashheadz> | and do a ls.... do u see other files there |
| 21:41 | <hashheadz> | or is it blank as u not put no pictuures ion |
| 21:41 | <ret> | blank |
| 21:41 | <hashheadz> | ok |
| 21:42 | <hashheadz> | copy a file like apng or jpg to it |
| 21:42 | <ret> | :$ How do i do that with CLI? |
| 21:42 | <hashheadz> | e.g cp foobarfile to ./ |
| 21:42 | <ret> | oh ok |
| 21:42 | <hashheadz> | :P |
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| 21:43 | <ret> | =] |
| 21:43 | <ret> | so far it looks like it copied |
| 21:43 | <ret> | Ret:/media/disk/picture# ls |
| 21:43 | <ret> | wut.png |
| 21:43 | <hashheadz> | ok umount /media/disk |
| 21:43 | <ret> | YAY |
| 21:43 | <ret> | :D |
| 21:43 | <hashheadz> | if not it umount /dev/sda1 |
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| 21:43 | <hashheadz> | or /dev/sda |
| 21:43 | <ret> | <33333 |
| 21:44 | <hashheadz> | just to make sure it finished with ur memory card |
| 21:44 | <hashheadz> | it like remove command in windows |
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| 21:44 | <ret> | Okay, um, how do I copy whole folders? Like, cp /home/ret/Desktop/pspirc-v1.1.6 /media/disk/etc |
| 21:44 | <hashheadz> | same way |
| 21:44 | <ret> | like that? |
| 21:44 | <ret> | okay :3 |
| 21:44 | <hashheadz> | but with -r in the cp command |
| 21:44 | <ret> | what does -r stand for? |
| 21:44 | <ml|> | cp -r |
| 21:44 | <hashheadz> | like cp -r foorbar/ to /media/disk/ |
| 21:44 | <ml|> | man cp |
| 21:45 | <ret> | :) |
| 21:45 | <todoesverso> | -r = recursive |
| 21:45 | <ret> | oh |
| 21:45 | <ret> | thanks :D |
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| 21:45 | <hashheadz> | did it work |
| 21:45 | <todoesverso> | if you want to copy just everythin use the '-a' flag |
| 21:45 | <ret> | yep :D |
| 21:45 | <hashheadz> | whats -a for |
| 21:45 | <hashheadz> | attributes |
| 21:45 | <hashheadz> | and all |
| 21:46 | <ml|> | yeah -a is usefull |
| 21:46 | <hashheadz> | i usually use -rf |
| 21:46 | <ret> | :3 thanks guyssss :D |
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| 21:46 | <hashheadz> | did it work ret |
| 21:46 | <ret> | I'd have been so lost lol |
| 21:46 | <ret> | yeah |
| 21:46 | <hashheadz> | good |
| 21:46 | <hashheadz> | remember |
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| 21:46 | <ml|> | man cp will explain better than anybody here ;) |
| 21:46 | <hashheadz> | if se consolegui dont work... then just u |
| 21:46 | <hashheadz> | fuckiong mouse |
| 21:47 | <hashheadz> | a man is ok if u wan tot learn everything |
| 21:47 | <ret> | um |
| 21:47 | <ret> | how do I del files? |
| 21:47 | <ret> | lol |
| 21:47 | <hashheadz> | but a human is better of u just want to know how to copy |
| 21:47 | <ret> | i'm kinda new to debian if you couldn't tell |
| 21:47 | <ml|> | man rm |
| 21:48 | <hashheadz> | imagine debain as a update tool |
| 21:48 | <ml|> | new to linux? and more info so you can learn |
| 21:48 | <ml|> | *want |
| 21:48 | <hashheadz> | and the tools u use as available for all system that rn unix |
| 21:48 | <hashheadz> | like in cp uses |
| 21:48 | <ret> | ml|: yeah, please |
| 21:48 | <hashheadz> | man havec been useless for me in the beginning in my learnign of unix# |
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| 21:49 | <ret> | Ret:/media/disk/psp/game# rm pspirc-v1.1.6 |
| 21:49 | <ret> | rm: cannot remove `pspirc-v1.1.6': Is a directory |
| 21:49 | <ret> | :$ |
| 21:49 | <ml|> | dpkg: tell ret about grounding |
| 21:49 | <hashheadz> | but after i learnt the laout of unix i have found it usefull for some things |
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| 21:49 | <ml|> | rm -r |
| 21:49 | <ret> | ah |
| 21:49 | <hashheadz> | aok use -f |
| 21:49 | <abrotman> | -f alone won't help |
| 21:49 | <hashheadz> | ok -rf |
| 21:49 | <hashheadz> | sorry |
| 21:49 | <hashheadz> | lol# |
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| 21:49 | <hashheadz> | -f usefull if curropted |
| 21:49 | <hashheadz> | so i use as defualt |
| 21:49 | <ml|> | ret: do /msg dpkg selftell |
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| 21:49 | <abrotman> | no reason to use -f at all |
| 21:50 | <hashheadz> | ok waht bout if u wanna move a folder with mv |
| 21:50 | <ml|> | ret: and /msg dpkg reference |
| 21:50 | <hashheadz> | lol |
| 21:50 | <abrotman> | just mv it ? |
| 21:50 | <ml|> | just mv works fine |
| 21:50 | <hashheadz> | lol what if its recursive |
| 21:50 | <ret> | o.o |
| 21:50 | <hashheadz> | im sure i have to use -f for someting |
| 21:51 | <hashheadz> | lol |
| 21:51 | <ml|> | no need |
| 21:51 | <hashheadz> | or is it habit from old styles in old days |
| 21:51 | <hashheadz> | ok |
| 21:51 | <ml|> | ret: got that |
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| 21:51 | <ret> | yeah |
| 21:51 | <ret> | :3 |
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| 21:51 | <hashheadz> | didnt they use to play tricks with -f |
| 21:51 | <abrotman> | !enter |
| 21:51 | <dpkg> | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
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| 21:51 | <hashheadz> | lol |
| 21:51 | <hashheadz> | yea usually after 4th return after a quick recession |
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| 21:52 | <todoesverso> | hello facundo |
| 21:52 | <todoesverso> | :P |
| 21:52 | <hashheadz> | jeremy kyle on |
| 21:52 | <ml|> | ret: that should help you on your way, also ask dpkg about unix lessons |
| 21:52 | <hashheadz> | wow |
| 21:52 | <ret> | Okies |
| 21:52 | <hashheadz> | theres unix lessons |
| 21:52 | <hashheadz> | is ther |
| 21:52 | <hashheadz> | fk me |
| 21:52 | <hashheadz> | with no crowbar |
| 21:52 | <hashheadz> | lol |
| 21:53 | <ml|> | no but the is an enter ;) |
| 21:53 | <ml|> | *there |
| 21:53 | <facundo> | hi |
| 21:54 | <ret> | I have a feeling this was answered, but would cp -r be used for this error? Ret:/media/disk/psp/game# cp /home/ret/Desktop/pspirc-v1.1.6/fw15 /media/disk/psp/game |
| 21:54 | <ret> | cp: omitting directory `/home/ret/Desktop/pspirc-v1.1.6/fw15' |
| 21:54 | <ml|> | yes |
| 21:54 | <todoesverso> | facundo, welecome to the dark side of the internet, this is still web 1.0 and we are all proud of it :P |
| 21:55 | <ml|> | but man cp and rm |
| 21:55 | <hashheadz> | aint this web http 2.0 |
| 21:55 | <facundo> | jaja |
| 21:55 | <hashheadz> | as it includes irc and such like protoclols |
| 21:56 | <todoesverso> | yes, i know, but is far away from facebook and stuff like that :) |
| 21:56 | <todoesverso> | or google waves... |
| 21:56 | <facundo> | that's my all life |
| 21:56 | <todoesverso> | lol |
| 21:56 | <facundo> | i'm new on this |
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| 21:57 | <hashheadz> | facebook can use the http1.0 protocal |
| 21:57 | <hashheadz> | jsut means it not defined after that ...eg security which http2.0 was injtroduced for |
| 21:57 | <hashheadz> | well http:1.1 |
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| 21:57 | <todoesverso> | i know it was just a joke |
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| 21:57 | <hashheadz> | ye |
| 21:57 | <hashheadz> | but mobile conform, to it for some stupid reason |
| 21:58 | <hashheadz> | but anything conforming to http1 |
| 21:58 | <abrotman> | !ot |
| 21:58 | <dpkg> | Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic (i.e. Debian support); imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. #debian-offtopic is the place for longer off-topic discussions. |
| 21:58 | <hashheadz> | also conformes to anything after that |
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| 21:59 | <todoesverso> | ok, sorry mr dpkg |
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| 22:00 | <hashheadz> | debain covrs http1 |
| 22:00 | <hashheadz> | e.g wml |
| 22:00 | <hashheadz> | standards |
| 22:00 | <hashheadz> | or does it not |
| 22:00 | <hashheadz> | it covers the very basics that the net is based on |
| 22:00 | <hashheadz> | e.g dhcp |
| 22:00 | <hashheadz> | gateways |
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| 22:00 | <hashheadz> | and transport protocols |
| 22:00 | <abrotman> | hashheadz: lay off the enter key .. |
| 22:00 | <hashheadz> | lol |
| 22:00 | <abrotman> | and stop being offtopic |
| 22:00 | <hashheadz> | heh |
| 22:01 | <hashheadz> | it s not |
| 22:01 | <abrotman> | yes, it is |
| 22:01 | <sney^> | !enter |
| 22:01 | <dpkg> | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 22:01 | <vook> | i dunno about debian - AROS looks nice. |
| 22:02 | <vook> | !AROS |
| 22:02 | <dpkg> | AROS - Amiga Research OS (www.aros.org) - Goal is to create an OS as compatible as possible to AmigaOS 3.1. Will be multi-platform and mostly source compatible with Amiga OS (may be binary compatible on real Amiga or m68k machines). Can run under Linux and X or on bare metal (including i386!) |
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| 22:08 | <hashheadz> | sine when do u know bout amiga os 3.1 |
| 22:09 | <hashheadz> | u seem like th eperwson to be pc oriented |
| 22:09 | <hashheadz> | or mac oriented |
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| 22:09 | <hashheadz> | due to amiga being powerpc compatible |
| 22:09 | <gengxj> | hi |
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| 22:10 | <hashheadz> | thought the ami 3.5 versionjga got to |
| 22:10 | <abrotman> | hashheadz: i think you want #debian-offtopic |
| 22:10 | <hashheadz> | dpgk talked bout amiga os |
| 22:10 | <gengxj> | I have a problem about linux net module, anyone can help me ? |
| 22:10 | <hashheadz> | so cant be off topic if it suppots amiga |
| 22:10 | <hashheadz> | can it |
| 22:10 | <abrotman> | hashheadz: i think you want #debian-offtopic |
| 22:10 | <hashheadz> | ye i could help |
| 22:10 | <abrotman> | gengxj: just ask |
| 22:10 | <kop> | What's wrong with my mirroring? I'm using anonftpsync to mirror debian from mirrors.tds.net. I keep getting the message: rsync: opendir "/pool/main/s/slicer" (in debian) failed: Permission denied (13)\nIO error encountered -- skipping file deletion" If I delete the directory from my system, it comes back when I re-run the mirror and I get the same error. The strange thing is that if I browse the tds archive with http the slicer directory does not exist, but |
| 22:10 | <hashheadz> | if u give more info bout problem |
| 22:11 | <hashheadz> | sounds like u not inj sudo |
| 22:12 | <gengxj> | We test the efficiency of package forwarding in linux os. but the result is too bad, we can't find the reason |
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| 22:13 | <hashheadz> | ok |
| 22:13 | <abrotman> | package or packet ? |
| 22:13 | <kop> | gengxj: What is "package forwarding"? You mean packet forwarding, as in routing? |
| 22:13 | <gengxj> | a lot of package lost if the traffic is large |
| 22:14 | <gengxj> | yes |
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| 22:14 | <gengxj> | packet |
| 22:14 | <abrotman> | gengxj: there can be a few variables .. hardware is one |
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| 22:14 | <abrotman> | gengxj: like the cards used, the cables, the switch |
| 22:15 | <kop> | gengxj: Whether the nic properly negotiates speed. You could be running a 10Mbps. |
| 22:16 | <gengxj> | yes ,we use a IBM server |
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| 22:17 | <gengxj> | is the buffer mechanism of nic driver a problem |
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| 22:18 | <kop> | gengxj: You could examine the output of "dmesg | grep eth" to see what the kernel thinks about your hardware. |
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| 22:19 | <gengxj> | the result will be record in log if there are a lot of packet lose? |
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| 22:21 | <edbian> | I'm looking for a good cli program that can report my various temperature readings (system, cpu, hdd) What can you suggest? |
| 22:22 | <kop> | gengxj: Or do a flood ping (as root, "ping -f foo") of whatever's on the other end of each wire to see if you're getting the througput you should. I've also used the ttcp package, (now nttcp). netstat -iv will tell you packet loss stats (iirc). |
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| 22:23 | <kop> | edbian: I've used lm-sensors. YMMV. |
| 22:23 | <edbian> | kop: Is that cli based? |
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| 22:24 | <kop> | edbian: Yes. I use it to log, but I recall runnining it manually as well. |
| 22:25 | <edbian> | thanks |
| 22:26 | <phorce1> | edbian: install fail2ban and set it up to ban the attack IP's for several hours (re: your problem with ssh attacks) |
| 22:26 | <edbian> | phorce1: That is much appreciated. I think that the computer is overheating now. It just went un-responsive again with out being connected to the network at all (cord unplugged). |
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| 22:27 | <phorce1> | edbian: sounds like some of my old hardware <grin> |
| 22:27 | <edbian> | phorce1: Do you think the fan is bad? Is it a simple solution? *Crosses Fingers* |
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| 22:28 | <edbian> | Thanks for the help bt |
| 22:28 | <edbian> | btw* |
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| 22:28 | <phorce1> | edbian: open it up and look. I had one that ran for a month or so with no power supply fan. I only realized the fan was out because the cats decided that the top of that computer was a good place to sleep |
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| 22:29 | <phorce1> | The system kept running fine because i built it to very low specs but the case above the power supply was too hot to touch with bare fingers |
| 22:30 | <kop> | Any thoughts on mirrors.tds.net? |
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| 22:32 | <mikeg> | hi, which is the "best way" to install debian unstable to ext4 partition? mini.iso seems to not support ext4 yet |
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| 22:34 | <abrotman> | mikeg: /msg dpkg kmuto |
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| 22:35 | <mikeg> | thnx :) |
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| 22:39 | <hashheadz> | how bout if u make ur own mini kernel |
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| 22:41 | <mikeg> | maybe another idea is to boot from an ubuntu 9.04 cd that supports ext4, format the partition and then using debootstrap install a minimal debian unstable system |
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| 22:43 | <abrotman> | mikeg: the kmuto should work just fine |
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| 22:46 | <miguel> | what does this error means im getting an error while trying to install. Soft Reset Failed (Device Not Ready) |
| 22:46 | <abrotman> | it's not good |
| 22:46 | <miguel> | whats does it mean? how do i fix it? |
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| 22:47 | <hashheadz> | it means either ur using usb or u need to fix ur hdd |
| 22:47 | <hashheadz> | or some other device thats not readuy |
| 22:47 | <hashheadz> | usuallly dvd |
| 22:47 | <abrotman> | miguel: usually means the media is bad/dying .. could be a bad CD or bad HDD .. but also try to reseat your cables |
| 22:47 | <miguel> | umm i have 4 hds on my system |
| 22:47 | <miguel> | i doubt is a hd issue |
| 22:48 | <hashheadz> | u doubt it hdd issues et 2 ppl just said it is |
| 22:48 | <hashheadz> | hmm |
| 22:48 | <hashheadz> | or a /scsi device issues |
| 22:48 | <kop> | miguel: I don't know what it means. You might fix it by using a newer version of the installer, and then you'd probably need a newer kernel too. See kmuto (iirc) for a newer installer,and bpo for a newer kernel. |
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| 22:48 | <hashheadz> | u could jsut have a worn cable |
| 22:48 | <hashheadz> | if u think ur hardrive are ok |
| 22:48 | <kop> | hashheadz: You know, the channel etiqutte is to use real, spelled out, words. |
| 22:49 | <kop> | !tell hashheadz -about u |
| 22:49 | <miguel> | umm i mean it will let me install and everything |
| 22:49 | <hashheadz> | ok jdo dd if=/dev/device of=/dev/device |
| 22:49 | <miguel> | but im just worry about those errors |
| 22:49 | <hashheadz> | and see fi u have the error on a;l 4 hdds |
| 22:49 | <hashheadz> | if not u know it not hte hdds |
| 22:49 | <craigevil> | !u |
| 22:49 | <dpkg> | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 22:49 | <kop> | miguel: Run the badblocks utility to check your media. |
| 22:49 | <kop> | !wud |
| 22:49 | <dpkg> | nun uv us wull unswer yu uf yu ask luke u murun. |
| 22:50 | <hashheadz> | dd should do the same as a bad block checker dont it |
| 22:50 | <kop> | hashheadz: Depends on the options. badblocks will do various read/write tests you won't get with dd. |
| 22:50 | <hashheadz> | !tell kop about -h |
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| 22:51 | <hashheadz> | ye but dd will tell u the in and outs which resemble the amounbt of data ina nd out |
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| 22:51 | <hashheadz> | dd will tell u if a device is working |
| 22:51 | <miguel> | and i get the error 3 times btw |
| 22:51 | <hashheadz> | badblocks will tell u if a workign device is having problems reading |
| 22:51 | <kop> | hashheadz: No, it won't. It will tell you if it's mostly working. |
| 22:51 | <abrotman> | hashheadz: please talk like a real person .. no one understands anything oyu're saying |
| 22:51 | <abrotman> | you're |
| 22:51 | <hashheadz> | ok |
| 22:52 | <hashheadz> | at moent it is not working |
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| 22:52 | <hashheadz> | e.g rest prob |
| 22:52 | <hashheadz> | reset # |
| 22:52 | <hashheadz> | i helped ret |
| 22:52 | <hashheadz> | and u guyz didnt |
| 22:52 | <hashheadz> | so thats one up to me |
| 22:52 | <hashheadz> | and 0 to u |
| 22:52 | <ret> | :) |
| 22:52 | <abrotman> | he just stopped talking .. he didn't say his problem was solved |
| 22:52 | <hashheadz> | !tell kop about dir |
| 22:52 | <abrotman> | hashheadz: stop with the bot |
| 22:53 | <hashheadz> | !tell kop about dir¬ |
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| 22:53 | <hashheadz> | what |
| 22:53 | <kyle_> | i need major helps guys |
| 22:53 | <hashheadz> | whatg |
| 22:53 | <kyle_> | my wireless |
| 22:53 | <hashheadz> | what bout it |
| 22:53 | <kop> | !ask |
| 22:53 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 22:53 | <kyle_> | i cant get it to work |
| 22:53 | <abrotman> | which chipset? |
| 22:53 | <hashheadz> | ok do u see it |
| 22:54 | <abrotman> | !wud |
| 22:54 | <kyle_> | i use a broadcom bcm4318 |
| 22:54 | <dpkg> | nun uv us wull unswer yu uf yu ask luke u murun. |
| 22:54 | <kyle_> | Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02) |
| 22:54 | <hashheadz> | ok do u have wep or wpa encryption with ur network |
| 22:54 | <abrotman> | kyle_: lspci -k .. do you see a PCI ID, or a kernel driver ? |
| 22:54 | <hashheadz> | we knwo he sees it |
| 22:54 | <hashheadz> | cos he give us more info then windows |
| 22:54 | * | abrotman decides hashheadz is the most annoying person he's seen in weeks |
| 22:54 | <hashheadz> | stfu |
| 22:54 | <kyle_> | Kernel driver in use: b43-pci-bridge |
| 22:54 | <kop> | abrotman: Although he's _answering_ like a moron, so the factoid is not entirely apropos. |
| 22:54 | <miguel> | i also tried a ubuntu media and got the same soft reset failed drive not ready error |
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| 22:55 | <kop> | !l33t |
| 22:55 | <dpkg> | Plz uze #debian-l33t 4 hlp in l33t !! U wud get m0re helpz their !!! lol L33t speakers, please use #debian-l33t for help in the l33t dialect. You will get much more help there. 100% lame |
| 22:55 | <abrotman> | kyle_: did you install the b43-fwcutter ? |
| 22:55 | <kyle_> | yes |
| 22:55 | <hashheadz> | ok sounds like ur drive needs a either a fix or needs a pasword |
| 22:55 | <abrotman> | kyle_: and run the script to download the firmware ? |
| 22:55 | <sney^> | aw, that channel doesn't really exist. |
| 22:55 | <kyle_> | yea |
| 22:55 | <hashheadz> | like cos u used it in a raid systenm from a system that required a password with previous systemn it was in |
| 22:55 | <kyle_> | it downloaded it and extrated it |
| 22:55 | * | abrotman decides hashheadz is the most annoying person he's seen in weeks |
| 22:55 | <kyle_> | extracted* |
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| 22:56 | <abrotman> | kyle_: do you see any errors in dmesg? |
| 22:56 | <abrotman> | miguel: do you know which drive the error is on? |
| 22:56 | <hashheadz> | dont the firmware usually reside onthe cd/dvd that u used to install it on..due to it working on the live sysem |
| 22:56 | <hashheadz> | and u only need to copy /lib/bt4 |
| 22:56 | <abrotman> | uh .. no |
| 22:56 | <hashheadz> | not bt4 |
| 22:56 | <hashheadz> | but u know whaqt i mean |
| 22:56 | <miguel> | abrotman, all 3 of the ones that i have |
| 22:56 | <abrotman> | miguel: check your cables |
| 22:57 | <hashheadz> | miguel, does it workm in any pther system |
| 22:57 | <hashheadz> | check that |
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| 22:57 | <hashheadz> | if it does then it is a non cable problem |
| 22:57 | <kyle_> | abrotman...i dont see anything -bad- |
| 22:57 | <miguel> | abrotman, the thing is that i can install debian fine, and use it fine.. Also i ran diags from WD and they passed |
| 22:58 | <hashheadz> | so the drive is fine from a diagnositic view |
| 22:58 | <abrotman> | kyle_: tried with an open AP ? |
| 22:58 | <hashheadz> | so it could still have a secuirty prob |
| 22:58 | <kyle_> | AP? |
| 22:58 | <miguel> | hashheadz, acess point |
| 22:58 | <miguel> | ups |
| 22:58 | <miguel> | kyle ^^ |
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| 22:58 | <hashheadz> | AP- in linux term means access pont |
| 22:58 | <kyle_> | ok |
| 22:58 | <kyle_> | then i guess not |
| 22:58 | <miguel> | hashheadz, yes the hds seem fine from the diags |
| 22:59 | <hashheadz> | ok |
| 22:59 | <hashheadz> | but diags dont have access to physical data |
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| 22:59 | <hashheadz> | it only has access to data intergatiy |
| 22:59 | <hashheadz> | e.g smart |
| 22:59 | <hashheadz> | so fi harddrive requirld pass intitergityed passwprd it wou |
| 22:59 | <hashheadz> | fucking keybaord |
| 22:59 | <hashheadz> | and mouse |
| 23:00 | <miguel> | hashheadz, so what should i do? |
| 23:00 | <hashheadz> | so can u read all hdd data in ur sustem |
| 23:00 | <hashheadz> | or are u using raid |
| 23:00 | <hashheadz> | as raid treat all data on hdd different |
| 23:00 | <hashheadz> | e.g as an array with reduncay checks |
| 23:00 | <hashheadz> | ok what hdd is it |
| 23:00 | <kyle_> | should i edit /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 23:01 | <hashheadz> | hd* or sd* |
| 23:01 | <miguel> | hashheadz, 3 500gb 7200 RPM |
| 23:01 | <miguel> | the system works like a charm |
| 23:01 | <hashheadz> | ok thought u had 4 |
| 23:01 | <miguel> | everything works fine |
| 23:01 | <hashheadz> | it will if one drive fails in raid |
| 23:01 | <hashheadz> | as that wat raid is good fort |
| 23:02 | <miguel> | im using raid 0 |
| 23:02 | <miguel> | so all hds are working |
| 23:02 | <hashheadz> | ok stirpped |
| 23:02 | <hashheadz> | ok |
| 23:02 | <hashheadz> | what u tryijg to do with it |
| 23:02 | <abrotman> | hashheadz: please go find a dictionary |
| 23:02 | <hashheadz> | i will |
| 23:02 | <miguel> | is this an actual error? |
| 23:02 | <hashheadz> | if i had sex |
| 23:03 | <hashheadz> | the error u discribe usuallly means a harddrive failure in either hardware or leads |
| 23:03 | <hashheadz> | or softaware |
| 23:03 | <hashheadz> | depwendong on prob |
| 23:03 | <miguel> | i know is fedora but http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=213230 |
| 23:03 | <hashheadz> | look |
| 23:03 | <hashheadz> | ing |
| 23:04 | <hashheadz> | u have sata and pata drives |
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| 23:04 | <hashheadz> | e.g ide |
| 23:04 | <hashheadz> | and sagta |
| 23:04 | <hashheadz> | sata |
| 23:04 | <abrotman> | hashheadz: lay off the enter key |
| 23:04 | <hashheadz> | lol |
| 23:04 | <hashheadz> | i will |
| 23:04 | <hashheadz> | when i get backafter my leg over |
| 23:05 | <hashheadz> | if i gert one |
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| 23:05 | <abrotman> | hashheadz: you need 10 minutes to learn to control your enter key |
| 23:05 | <miguel> | umm that is true |
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| 23:05 | <miguel> | my optical drive is an ide drive |
| 23:06 | <abrotman> | miguel: if you unplug the optical drive, do the errors go away? |
| 23:06 | <abrotman> | (yes, you should shut down to do this) |
| 23:06 | <miguel> | abrotman, nah my ide is hot swapable :P |
| 23:06 | <abrotman> | the OS may need to support that .. but it's your hardware |
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| 23:09 | <miguel> | trying |
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| 23:12 | <miguel> | weird.... |
| 23:12 | <miguel> | if i remove cd drive my system wont boot |
| 23:12 | <abrotman> | it caught on fire ? |
| 23:12 | <miguel> | it will get stock at post |
| 23:12 | <abrotman> | the BIOS won't pass? or debian won't boot ? |
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| 23:12 | <miguel> | i puted back and it worked |
| 23:13 | <miguel> | ^^, BIOS wont pass |
| 23:13 | <abrotman> | does it error? or just go slowly? |
| 23:13 | <miguel> | crashes |
| 23:13 | <abrotman> | your BIOS crashes ? |
| 23:13 | <miguel> | the system freezes with out the cd drive |
| 23:14 | <abrotman> | that's a tad bit odd |
| 23:14 | <abrotman> | can you deactivate that IDE controller/device in the bios ? |
| 23:14 | -!- | mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ |
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| 23:15 | <ret> | How do you force a rmdir to delete a folder if it's not empty? |
| 23:15 | <miguel> | -r |
| 23:15 | <abrotman> | rm -r |
| 23:15 | <ret> | ah |
| 23:15 | <ret> | k |
| 23:15 | <miguel> | owned :) |
| 23:15 | <abrotman> | ret: man rm |
| 23:16 | <miguel> | abrotman, i disconected my cd drive it booted and the error stills comes up |
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| 23:16 | <abrotman> | which error ? |
| 23:16 | <miguel> | softreset failed (device not ready) |
| 23:16 | <abrotman> | ah ok |
| 23:16 | <abrotman> | back up your HDD data .. it's dying in some way |
| 23:17 | <miguel> | ummm |
| 23:17 | <ret> | Ok, last question hopefully for the night: If a file is in a directory how do I bring it up and edit it via CLI? |
| 23:17 | <ret> | a text document* |
| 23:18 | <miguel> | nano |
| 23:18 | <miguel> | nano file name |
| 23:18 | <abrotman> | ret: vi file .. or nano file .. $EDITOR file |
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| 23:18 | <ret> | <3 |
| 23:18 | <miguel> | owned again |
| 23:18 | <miguel> | :P |
| 23:18 | <abrotman> | but i typed way more ... |
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| 23:18 | <abrotman> | and i'm not losing all my data :) |
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| 23:18 | <miguel> | hahahahah |
| 23:18 | <miguel> | thats fuck up |
| 23:18 | <I> | hi |
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| 23:26 | <hashheadz> | wowo i am back |
| 23:26 | <miguel> | sup |
| 23:26 | <hashheadz> | :P |
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| 23:27 | <miguel> | fuk i cant find a reason why im getting this error |
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| 23:27 | <hashheadz> | u know |
| 23:27 | <hashheadz> | do as we telkl or sit there wondering |
| 23:28 | <miguel> | ? |
| 23:28 | <miguel> | wut? |
| 23:28 | <hashheadz> | does ur system work with badblock |
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| 23:28 | <hashheadz> | can u fdisk the drive |
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| 23:28 | <hashheadz> | we need to knwo if u have access to the drive |
| 23:29 | <miguel> | yup |
| 23:29 | <hashheadz> | k |
| 23:29 | <miguel> | these 4 hd are in sofware raid 0. and the system is working fine fine |
| 23:29 | <hashheadz> | so can u co[y files to it |
| 23:29 | <miguel> | i can do everything normally |
| 23:29 | <hashheadz> | we talking bout jsut the drive not the array |
| 23:30 | <hashheadz> | as the array has other fixes to broken harddrives |
| 23:30 | <hashheadz> | that work undrer hood |
| 23:30 | <miguel> | i ran diags on the hd and they passed |
| 23:30 | <hashheadz> | doestnt matter#] |
| 23:31 | <hashheadz> | u harddrivve might ogf diassociated with the array |
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| 23:32 | <miguel> | ya but i get this error, when booting to the cds.. |
| 23:32 | <hashheadz> | ok |
| 23:32 | <miguel> | the cds = debian cd, ubuntu cd |
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| 23:33 | <hashheadz> | is it hardware array or a software array |
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| 23:33 | <hashheadz> | as that will make a difference |
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| 23:34 | <miguel> | software |
| 23:34 | <hashheadz> | ok |
| 23:34 | <hashheadz> | did u set it up with the distro cd u are using now |
| 23:35 | <miguel> | i tried multiple distro cds, but yes |
| 23:35 | <hashheadz> | did the previious command work |
| 23:35 | <hashheadz> | befoer it didnt |
| 23:36 | <hashheadz> | ok |
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| 23:36 | <hashheadz> | so it still more likily the drive is bout to fail |
| 23:36 | <hashheadz> | or the setup was n ot cohnfigured properly |
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| 23:40 | <miguel> | umm |
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| 23:49 | <n3lab> | any vsftp users here? |
| 23:50 | <southernc> | ask an actual question |
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| 23:54 | <n3lab> | southernc, i can't change chmod from ftp client( in vsftpd.conf chmod_enable=YES |
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| 23:56 | <n3lab> | o_O |
| 23:56 | <n3lab> | southernc, i can't change chmod from ftp client( in vsftpd.conf chmod_enable=YES |
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| 23:56 | <God> | hi |
| 23:56 | <southernc> | what do you mean you cant change it |
| 23:56 | <God> | hes an idiot |
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| 23:56 | <southernc> | ... |
| 23:56 | <n3lab> | i mean that i can't change xD |
| 23:56 | <Guest239> | !nick G0D |
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| 23:57 | <n3lab> | so i haven't permissions |
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| 23:57 | <southernc> | you mean you cant change file permissions using vsftp |
| 23:57 | <n3lab> | yap |
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| 23:58 | <n3lab> | can u give me example of ur vsftpd.conf? |
| 23:58 | <southernc> | well |
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