| --- | Log | opened Sat Aug 08 00:00:01 2009 |
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| 00:02 | <sheit> | anyone know how to get Boxee to work on jaunty amd64 |
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| 00:05 | <sney^> | !ubuntu |
| 00:05 | <dpkg> | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
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| 00:13 | <kowshal> | hello |
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| 00:23 | <h> | anyone knows how to sing with one 4096 key ? i use caff but i get one error , it says i have one public que but not one private key witch is not true |
| 00:24 | <Hideo> | sing? |
| 00:24 | <h> | sign |
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| 01:30 | * | spacebear enters modus of robocop cybernetic drug lord or eats dinner.. you never kniow |
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| 01:32 | <Steven_M> | what's the difference between the telnet package and the inetutils-telnet package? |
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| 01:33 | <southernc> | :) |
| 01:34 | <Steven_M> | hi southernc |
| 01:34 | <southernc> | hello |
| 01:34 | <southernc> | whats new, interesting , blownup tonight ? |
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| 01:36 | <southernc> | apparently your keyboard... |
| 01:36 | <southernc> | hehe |
| 01:36 | <southernc> | ml|: you didnt beat me to bed i hope |
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| 01:39 | <Steven_M> | what's the difference between the telnet package and the inetutils-telnet package? |
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| 01:41 | <southernc> | inteutils is gnu |
| 01:41 | <southernc> | inetutils* |
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| 01:42 | * | southernc shrugz |
| 01:43 | <Steven_M> | southernc: so does that mean that the other one is bsd? |
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| 01:45 | <southernc> | bsdutils and bsdmainutils dont include telent |
| 01:45 | <Steven_M> | southernc: ok |
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| 01:48 | <christian> | IDENTITY |
| 01:49 | <southernc> | its indetify and it goes to nickserv :) |
| 01:49 | <southernc> | identify* |
| 01:51 | <ml|> | southernc: hah hello, what was it you wanted to tell me? and btw problem solved thanks to vvas :) |
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| 01:51 | <southernc> | hmm what was the problem ? |
| 01:51 | <southernc> | i imagine something to do with pointing to wrong device ? |
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| 01:54 | <ml|> | no, had to use it this way linux16 (hd0,1)/memtest... and then vvas_ came up with a way that update-grub2 add it's on it's own |
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| 01:55 | <southernc> | hmm |
| 01:55 | <ml|> | and plus a patch in one of the bug reports to fix another two issues |
| 01:55 | <southernc> | fun is :) |
| 01:56 | <ml|> | works fine now :) |
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| 01:56 | <ml|> | !beer vvas_ |
| 01:56 | * | dpkg pours a quart of Spaten Optimator for vvas_ |
| 01:56 | <southernc> | my question was - since when using mv file /etc erases the whole /etc dir ? |
| 01:57 | <southernc> | am i loosing my mind or ? |
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| 01:57 | <ml|> | whenever i get the email for my bug report either vvas_ or i will include this info |
| 01:57 | <ml|> | southernc: ? |
| 01:58 | <southernc> | i did mv rsnapshot.cfg /etc and it erased my entire etc dir... |
| 01:58 | <ml|> | hmm |
| 01:58 | <southernc> | yea |
| 01:58 | <southernc> | lol |
| 01:59 | <ml|> | i usually close dir(s) /etc/ , but that should not happen |
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| 01:59 | <southernc> | i didnt think so either it was quite a suprise |
| 02:00 | <ml|> | but like i said, i close them |
| 02:00 | <southernc> | yea prolly be a good idea |
| 02:00 | <southernc> | not like theres a undo button |
| 02:00 | <ml|> | haha |
| 02:01 | <ml|> | it erased it? or renamed it? |
| 02:01 | <southernc> | erased |
| 02:01 | <southernc> | gone completely |
| 02:02 | <ml|> | hmm, that sound very wierd |
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| 02:02 | <ml|> | good thing you backup :) |
| 02:03 | <southernc> | well that was thing i was trying to setup rsnapshot lol |
| 02:03 | <ml|> | ouch! |
| 02:03 | <ml|> | i love rsnapshot :) |
| 02:03 | <southernc> | yea you tought my how to use it (:0P |
| 02:03 | <ml|> | best backup tool imho |
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| 02:04 | <ml|> | yeah that's right |
| 02:04 | <southernc> | it works good on my server |
| 02:04 | <southernc> | effortless |
| 02:04 | <ml|> | so what you do to recover /etc yes :) |
| 02:05 | <southernc> | debian lenny install cd lol |
| 02:05 | <ml|> | and only used what it needs |
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| 02:05 | <ml|> | *uses |
| 02:05 | <ml|> | damn that sucks |
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| 02:06 | <southernc> | i had to install a velociraptor drive on this computer anyway and i pretty much have all of the issues worked oput and on a backup cd so it wasnt that bad |
| 02:06 | <ml|> | so you had to reconfigure your configs huh |
| 02:06 | <ml|> | ah ok |
| 02:07 | <southernc> | ehh just a few made a new kernel reconfigure to use opendns just basic crap |
| 02:07 | <ml|> | southernc: maybe next time to make sure use -i ;) |
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| 02:07 | * | southernc is scared to use the mv command |
| 02:07 | <southernc> | haha |
| 02:07 | <ml|> | :) /haha/ |
| 02:09 | <southernc> | i will have a question about how you restore a backup or the easiest way youve found after the new drives get here cause i gotta configure a raid but that wont be for a few days |
| 02:09 | <southernc> | so no going on vacation :) |
| 02:10 | <ml|> | southernc: easy just use a livecd (grml), mount the drives and rsync the data over |
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| 02:11 | <ml|> | rsync -avzAHX(n) should do just fine remove the n when satisfied on what it will do |
| 02:12 | <ml|> | always use "n" to make sure! |
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| 02:12 | <ml|> | no need to overide dir(s) or bunch of files |
| 02:12 | <southernc> | but i mean if i have a backup on a cd and i have completely reformatted drives i partition them etc install lenny then use rsync from live cd >? |
| 02:13 | <ml|> | by accident like the mv incident |
| 02:14 | <southernc> | brb |
| 02:14 | <ml|> | no need to reinstall lenny, just make sure you have a goog rsnapshot and rsync |
| 02:14 | <ml|> | southernc: ^ |
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| 02:16 | <ml|> | southernc: you can also wipe the drives with said livecd and use fdisk and mkfs.*** rsxync and done, no need to use install cd unless you want to, this way all your settings, etc.. are preserved |
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| 02:17 | <Guest165> | \list |
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| 02:18 | <ml|> | southernc: just did it to convert to ext4 and will do it again to /boot partition soon since it's ext3 now, but since using grub2 i can now use ext4 on /boot :) |
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| 02:18 | <drakeman> | hey anyones have any idea how to add more workspaces than 2 in gnome inside debian? righ click in the workspace swticher doesnt work.. |
| 02:19 | <ml|> | drakeman: wish i knew, but i don't use gnome |
| 02:19 | <drakeman> | ml|, thanks, hehee, let me see if the problem is compiz |
| 02:20 | * | ml| goes back to document my grub2 adventure before i forget it all ttyl |
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| 02:23 | <drakeman> | ml|, good luck! |
| 02:23 | <drakeman> | anyone can help me with this gnome thing |
| 02:23 | <southernc> | ahh opk ml |
| 02:23 | <southernc> | hows ext4 working out anyway ? |
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| 02:29 | <hackndoes> | Hi guys and gals, i have a made a stupid mistake and installed testing. i get many updates with bugs in them when i try to install simple main stream everyday use apps. |
| 02:29 | <hackndoes> | what is the safest and fastest an recommended way to do a downgrade back to Lenny? |
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| 02:33 | <ml|> | hackndoes: you can't go back unless you have a backup before you did this |
| 02:34 | <southernc> | tjhats almost as good as mv ing your /etc :) |
| 02:34 | <hackndoes> | ml|, well i don't have but i saw on google some suggestion such as apt-pinning and many dependency resolutions manually etc only it seems like very dengerous move |
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| 02:34 | <southernc> | apt pining isnt backwards compatible |
| 02:34 | <ml|> | southernc: working great thus far, faster reads & writes, rm is also faster and fsck is alot faster |
| 02:35 | <southernc> | hmm |
| 02:35 | <hackndoes> | and i see now that sqeeze is dated to around sept to become stable (with a bit delay probably) maybe better to wait for it? |
| 02:35 | <ml|> | hackndoes: apt does not support going backwards |
| 02:35 | <southernc> | thatc ool havent had any compatability problems ? |
| 02:36 | <ml|> | southernc: is that ? for me? |
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| 02:36 | <hackndoes> | well people there said they did the downgrade successfully in the end |
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| 02:37 | <ml|> | hackndoes: well anything is possible, but it's not easy better to backup and reinstall |
| 02:37 | <ml|> | search the debian forums if you feel like trying good luck |
| 02:37 | <hackndoes> | ml|, but what about waiting for sqeeze to become stable? it's supposed to come at around setpember |
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| 02:38 | <ml|> | hackndoes: yes i see no need to go back to stable that's up to you tho |
| 02:38 | <southernc> | hackndoes the only thing you could do is dpkg --get-selections > ~/selectionfile fix your sources.list and try removing what was upgraded and then reload the file with dpkg --set-selections < ~/selectionfile && apt-get dselect-upgrade |
| 02:39 | <ml|> | hackndoes: also no set time on when squeeze will become stable and setptember no way |
| 02:39 | <southernc> | something along those lines |
| 02:39 | <hackndoes> | well i think i will pass on the experience for now (my time is to valuable) will wait |
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| 02:40 | <southernc> | what are you the president ? |
| 02:40 | <ml|> | heh |
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| 02:41 | <ml|> | southernc: was this for me?... < southernc> thatc ool havent had any compatability problems ? |
| 02:41 | <hackndoes> | the first date was September but because of a shift in strategy at beginning of September they will announce a new date. ->http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090730 |
| 02:41 | <southernc> | yea |
| 02:41 | <southernc> | other then memtest (:0P |
| 02:41 | <ml|> | southernc: well explain please that looks like gibberish ;) |
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| 02:42 | <craigevil> | A new timeline will be announced by the Debian Release Team in early September. says nothing about a freeze or release in Sept. |
| 02:42 | <southernc> | you havent had any compatability issues with ext4 file system! |
| 02:42 | <southernc> | that better :) |
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| 02:42 | <ml|> | southernc: heh yes, none tthus far works great :) |
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| 02:43 | <southernc> | hmm maybe ill have to give it a try one of these days |
| 02:43 | <hackndoes> | well should i then start a downgrade? will get and set selections do the trick? |
| 02:43 | <craigevil> | !downgrade |
| 02:43 | <dpkg> | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. Also see <partial downgrade>, or <sdn> |
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| 02:43 | <ml|> | southernc: but everyone i mention too it gives the evil eye 0_o |
| 02:43 | <hackndoes> | if i can't download everything that was upgraded so far, how should i know it's a million packages, will it still work? |
| 02:44 | <southernc> | if you havent done alot of configureing i would suggest just doing a clean install |
| 02:44 | <ml|> | southernc: when you get your drives good time i would think |
| 02:44 | <southernc> | ext4 for a server ? |
| 02:44 | <southernc> | o_0 |
| 02:44 | <ml|> | ah no way |
| 02:44 | <hackndoes> | southernc, are you serious? is the stable release this far away? |
| 02:45 | <ml|> | hackndoes: it is, last one took ~3-4 years |
| 02:45 | <hackndoes> | do you think it's worth it? |
| 02:45 | <southernc> | well thats up to you if its giveing alot of problems and you feel like dealing with it then wait till they start naming debian after a different pixar file lol |
| 02:45 | <hackndoes> | but stable for 3-4 years doesn't it stay back in compability? |
| 02:46 | <craigevil> | 34-yrs was sarge, bth etch and lenny were around 2 |
| 02:46 | <craigevil> | 3-4* |
| 02:46 | <ml|> | ah i always forget |
| 02:46 | <hackndoes> | lenny? lenny is the current stable and only for a few months |
| 02:46 | <hackndoes> | no?! |
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| 02:46 | <ml|> | and i saw 34 years my eyes almost fell out of my head ;) |
| 02:47 | <craigevil> | hackndoes: yes it was released this past Feb |
| 02:47 | <southernc> | imagine looking into the future 34 years at the computers they will have youde shit yourself :) |
| 02:47 | <ml|> | hackndoes: there is backports.org |
| 02:47 | <hackndoes> | so you say it will be for one and a half year more |
| 02:47 | <craigevil> | no way squeeze will be released before at least next summer at the earliest |
| 02:47 | <ml|> | yup |
| 02:47 | <hackndoes> | OK OK i am convinced shit i hate this and hate that i was stupid. i saw you all talk about ext4 |
| 02:48 | <hackndoes> | do you utilize it? how do i use it as my file system, can i do it during installation? |
| 02:48 | <craigevil> | hackndoes: most people run stable on a server and either testing or sid on desktop |
| 02:48 | <hackndoes> | i saw you say things happen much faster on it |
| 02:48 | <southernc> | am i the only one confused about what hes asking ? |
| 02:49 | <ml|> | not with default debian installer, i think with kumo you can |
| 02:49 | <hackndoes> | craigevil, testing on the desktop? every installation i do gives me many bug issues |
| 02:49 | <ml|> | !kumo |
| 02:49 | <ml|> | hah |
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| 02:49 | <southernc> | hackndoes: youde have to use a unstable relase to use ext4 which is apparently what you have now |
| 02:49 | <craigevil> | hackndoes: ive run sid on my desktop for 5 yrs, never had to reinstall but i dont use kde or gnome |
| 02:50 | <ml|> | craigevil: what is the name for thatjp installer? |
| 02:50 | <craigevil> | !kmuto |
| 02:50 | <dpkg> | For Debian Lenny (or Etch) installers with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ . The included <bnx2> and <bnx2x> firmware files (in 0627 images) are required to be moved prior to network hardware detection, see comments of http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2630-lenny.htm |
| 02:50 | <ml|> | craigevil: thank you |
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| 02:51 | <hackndoes> | craigevil, i have no problem using other WM but i don't think this is the only source for the bugs, i installed bunshee and got bugs on dependency installations |
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| 02:51 | <ml|> | southernc: no, you can with .30 or higher, |
| 02:52 | <ml|> | using bpo |
| 02:52 | <southernc> | oh |
| 02:52 | <southernc> | only time i saw ext4 option was in sidux |
| 02:52 | <ml|> | or unstable's if on testing |
| 02:52 | <hackndoes> | and how did you install ext4 on the fly? |
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| 02:53 | <southernc> | on the fly ? |
| 02:53 | <ml|> | southernc: i have a custom kernel and debian sid one and both work great with ext4 |
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| 02:53 | <southernc> | what version of kde is standard on sid ? |
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| 02:53 | <ml|> | judd: versions kde |
| 02:53 | <judd> | ml|: kde -- etch: 5:47 lenny: 5:48 sid: 5:48 |
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| 02:54 | <ml|> | judd: versions kde-core |
| 02:54 | <judd> | ml|: kde-core -- etch: 5:47 lenny: 5:48 sid: 5:48 |
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| 02:54 | <hackndoes> | well install on an existing running system |
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| 02:54 | <southernc> | you cant install a ext4 partion over a ext3 system |
| 02:54 | <craigevil> | 4.3 |
| 02:54 | <southernc> | you would have to reformat your hd |
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| 02:55 | <ml|> | well you can convert it but better to mkfs.ext4 fresh |
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| 02:56 | <southernc> | well yea i suppose you could but i wouldnt |
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| 02:56 | <craigevil> | Linux Convert ext3 to ext4 File system - http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-convert-ext3-to-ext4-file-system.html |
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| 02:56 | <hackndoes> | thanks |
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| 02:57 | <ml|> | hackndoes: try with kmuto installer if doing a fresh install |
| 02:57 | <hackndoes> | i think i will stick to squeeze for now, since you say most people do that on their desktop, i can do it too |
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| 02:58 | <hackndoes> | which other desktop environment would you guys suggest other then gnome or KDE? what's you preferences and why? |
| 02:58 | <southernc> | um theres xfce |
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| 02:58 | <hackndoes> | I love the mac4lin project which is on gnome but can leave without that |
| 02:58 | <Tekno> | E17 (Enlightenment), lighter than xfce and looks good |
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| 02:59 | <craigevil> | i use lxde its a lot lighter and faster than gnome/kde |
| 02:59 | <hackndoes> | E17? it's desktop environment? |
| 02:59 | <ml|> | hackndoes: install apt-listbugs and apt-listchanges |
| 02:59 | <Tekno> | hackndoes: yea |
| 02:59 | <ml|> | xmonad here :) |
| 02:59 | <hackndoes> | listbugs i have will install listchanges |
| 02:59 | <Tekno> | but you still need to rely on gnome/kde apps on some things when using e17 |
| 03:00 | <Tekno> | so its not full environment |
| 03:00 | <hackndoes> | on |
| 03:00 | <hackndoes> | craigevil, and are you happy with it? |
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| 03:00 | <southernc> | see the ring on his finger |
| 03:00 | <ml|> | i would use lxde to start with |
| 03:00 | <hackndoes> | do you have all the applications you need from an environment there? |
| 03:01 | <ml|> | southernc: heh |
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| 03:01 | <craigevil> | hackndoes: yes, no gnome or kde apps here other than k3b |
| 03:01 | <hackndoes> | hee, can't leave without k3b |
| 03:02 | <craigevil> | well and gmplayer since gecko-mediaplayer pulls it in |
| 03:02 | <southernc> | no gimp.... |
| 03:03 | <ml|> | southernc: nobody has a gimp here ;) |
| 03:03 | <craigevil> | nope |
| 03:03 | <hackndoes> | ohhhhhhhhh, i hate these ->http://pastebin.com/m7f95f8bb they keep coming on every installation. now on installing lxde |
| 03:03 | <hackndoes> | southernc, what do you use for image manipulation? |
| 03:03 | <southernc> | gimp |
| 03:03 | <craigevil> | hackndoes: Processes 107 Uptime 1:52 Memory 234.8/493.5MB thats with firefox+chatzilla and 8 tabs, shell-fm, lxterminal, evince, pcmanfm all running |
| 03:03 | <southernc> | just used it to make my own custom kernel boot image ppkl ascci form |
| 03:03 | <southernc> | :) |
| 03:04 | <hackndoes> | craigevil, what do you mean by that? |
| 03:04 | <southernc> | ppl* |
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| 03:04 | <craigevil> | hackndoes: unless the bug is a "grave" bug or affects booting i usually dont worry about it |
| 03:04 | <ml|> | that it usee less resources than say kde or gnome would use |
| 03:04 | <ml|> | *uses |
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| 03:05 | <hackndoes> | craigevil, so how do i recognize a grave bug? |
| 03:05 | <southernc> | by the headstone |
| 03:05 | <craigevil> | apt-listbugs will say "grave" |
| 03:05 | <ml|> | hah |
| 03:05 | <hackndoes> | OK, grate thanks |
| 03:05 | <hackndoes> | i will come back to say hello from lxde |
| 03:06 | <hackndoes> | bye for a few |
| 03:06 | <southernc> | we cant wait :) |
| 03:06 | <ml|> | hackndoes: good luck |
| 03:06 | <hackndoes> | hee, thanks, you are very charming |
| 03:06 | <hackndoes> | 10x |
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| 03:06 | <southernc> | haha |
| 03:07 | <southernc> | who wants to take bets ? |
| 03:07 | * | ml| goes back to documenting my grub2 adventure before i forget it all, for real this time! bbiab |
| 03:07 | <southernc> | pfft no your not |
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| 03:08 | <southernc> | i wonder if he knew all he had to do was ctrl alt del |
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| 03:18 | <southernc> | hackndoes: howd it gfo ? |
| 03:18 | <southernc> | go* |
| 03:18 | <southernc> | !dpkg sid |
| 03:18 | <dpkg> | hmm... sid is the <unstable> version of Debian. It's named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Ask me about <unstable>. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. See <sid faq>. |
| 03:19 | <hackndoes> | southernc, oh i didn't realize i am connected back :) it's fine, lxde looks good |
| 03:19 | <hackndoes> | need to search for all it's keyboard shortcuts though |
| 03:19 | <southernc> | you know if you wanna change window managers all you have to do is ctrl alt del and switch the default |
| 03:19 | <craigevil> | hackndoes: my lxde desktop> http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6493/200908080307251280x1024.png |
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| 03:20 | <southernc> | i bet you dont smoke pot! |
| 03:20 | <southernc> | :) |
| 03:20 | <hackndoes> | wow dude very nice |
| 03:20 | <hackndoes> | no i think he is just light headede :) |
| 03:21 | <southernc> | very pretty setup craig |
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| 03:22 | <craigevil> | hehehe no not in years |
| 03:22 | <hackndoes> | how come you have google chrome running there? through wine? |
| 03:22 | <southernc> | whats the difference between sid and sidux... |
| 03:23 | <craigevil> | no there is a debian chrome package |
| 03:23 | <craigevil> | southernc: sidux sucks? |
| 03:23 | <ml|> | haha |
| 03:23 | <ml|> | craigevil: nice setup |
| 03:23 | <southernc> | there bolth from unstable no ? |
| 03:23 | <craigevil> | besides the crappy slh kernel, and some weird scripts not much |
| 03:24 | <southernc> | ahh |
| 03:24 | <ml|> | my minimal setup ... http://picpaste.com/2009-08-08-032218_1920x1200_scrot.png |
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| 03:24 | <craigevil> | try installing fglrx on a sidux kernel wont work never has |
| 03:24 | <southernc> | wow! now thats boring |
| 03:24 | <southernc> | ;p; |
| 03:24 | <southernc> | craig ive gotten it to work |
| 03:24 | <ml|> | haha "minimal"! |
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| 03:25 | <craigevil> | i like having a panel and menu |
| 03:25 | <southernc> | on the 2.6.29 |
| 03:25 | <southernc> | not 2.6.30 |
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| 03:25 | <craigevil> | southernc: did you use smxi? |
| 03:25 | <southernc> | yeaup |
| 03:25 | <southernc> | not using liqourix |
| 03:25 | <southernc> | it worked for bolth |
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| 03:26 | <ml|> | keyboard shortcuts are great here :) |
| 03:26 | <craigevil> | try doing it without smxi, h2 patches something so it works |
| 03:26 | <southernc> | no thanks i tried for about 8 hours without success even with oatching it |
| 03:26 | <southernc> | patching* |
| 03:26 | <craigevil> | works everytime in debian kernel even 2.6.30 in sid |
| 03:27 | <craigevil> | i think damentz has it working in the liquoirx kernel as well now |
| 03:27 | <southernc> | i couldnt get it to work with 2.6.30 |
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| 03:27 | <ml|> | southernc: btw when you do your moveif you need help lmk, if i'm around i'll do my best to help you |
| 03:28 | <southernc> | i appareciate it :) |
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| 03:28 | <southernc> | appreciate* |
| 03:28 | <craigevil> | southernc: i had a kanotix>sidux conversion that ran for 3 yrs until i had a hardware issue, my debian install is 5 yrs old running sid with daily apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 03:28 | <ml|> | southernc: just make sure you have good rsnapshots to work with |
| 03:28 | <southernc> | im sure after ive done it once and see how it works exactly it will all come together |
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| 03:29 | <southernc> | ml|: yea definately |
| 03:29 | <southernc> | craigevil: wow suprised you havent had any major issues |
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| 03:30 | <southernc> | craigevil: do you use fglrx ? |
| 03:30 | <craigevil> | nope only 2 things the whole time , once an upgrade messed up dvd sound that was fixed the next day and the new xorg |
| 03:30 | <craigevil> | no this pos dell is all intel |
| 03:30 | <southernc> | using hal ? |
| 03:30 | <craigevil> | and its ancient |
| 03:30 | <southernc> | ahh lol |
| 03:31 | <ml|> | craigevil: how is the new X except for that hal crap? |
| 03:31 | <craigevil> | i havent had any issues |
| 03:31 | <ml|> | do you use hal? |
| 03:31 | <craigevil> | raphics: Card Intel 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller X.Org 1.6.3 Res: 1280x1024@60.0hz |
| 03:31 | <craigevil> | GLX Renderer Mesa DRI Intel 915G GEM 20090712 2009Q2 RC3 x86/MMX/SSE2 GLX Version 1.4 Mesa 7.5.1 Direct Rendering Yes |
| 03:32 | <craigevil> | no choice about hal the new xorg depends on it |
| 03:32 | <hackndoes> | craigevil, sorry for the late response, there is a chrome for linux? |
| 03:32 | <hackndoes> | debian chrome package? in repos? |
| 03:32 | <Tekno> | chromium is for linux |
| 03:32 | <craigevil> | hackndoes: http://dev.chromium.org/getting-involved/dev-channel |
| 03:32 | <ml|> | well, you can disable it in xorg.conf |
| 03:33 | <craigevil> | google-chrome-unstable: Installed: 3.0.197.11-r22553 |
| 03:34 | <ml|> | how is that? |
| 03:34 | <craigevil> | ml|: i had it disabled in xorg.conf but it seems to work fine not being disabled |
| 03:35 | <ml|> | yes, but doesn't use up resources? |
| 03:35 | <craigevil> | ml|: not bad it even supports flash and gecko-mediaplayer just no java |
| 03:35 | <ml|> | craigevil: ok thank you for the info |
| 03:35 | <craigevil> | figured out last night how to get it to use privoxy |
| 03:36 | <ml|> | no addons supported yet? |
| 03:36 | <hackndoes> | that's nice |
| 03:36 | <craigevil> | no only in windows, but it supports plugins |
| 03:36 | <ml|> | plugins = addons? |
| 03:37 | <craigevil> | /opt/google/chrome/google-chrome --enable-plugins , plugins, flash, gecko-mediaplayer everything but java |
| 03:38 | <ml|> | i doubt it but it will be nice if you can use adblock on it |
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| 03:38 | <ml|> | flashblock would be nice :) |
| 03:38 | <craigevil> | ml|: definitely for now i just set it to use privoxy |
| 03:39 | <ml|> | how does that compare to addblock? |
| 03:39 | <craigevil> | ok not quite as good but it blocks a lot of crap |
| 03:40 | <ml|> | nice :) |
| 03:41 | <craigevil> | If you want Chrome to use a proxy like privoxy just add the --proxy-server=127.0.0.1:8118 when you launch it |
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| 03:42 | <craigevil> | so if you want to enable plugins and use a proxy you do something like > google-chrome --enable-plugins --proxy-server=127.0.0.1:8118 |
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| 03:47 | <hackndoes> | guys, i have no icons for the task bar tasks and where do i do system settings like keyboard layout switching etc on lxde? |
| 03:47 | <ml|> | craigevil: good info for chome users :) |
| 03:47 | <ml|> | *chrome |
| 03:47 | <craigevil> | ml|: chrome still crashes but it uses a lot less ram than iceweasel/firefox |
| 03:48 | <ml|> | even iceweasel 3.5.1? |
| 03:48 | <craigevil> | yes |
| 03:49 | <craigevil> | 103m 15m S 4 21.0 12:47.86 firefox-bin of course it been open forever |
| 03:49 | <ml|> | hehe |
| 03:50 | <ml|> | i'm used to certain plugins hard for me to use anything else |
| 03:50 | <Hideo> | vimperator! |
| 03:50 | <ml|> | yes! :) |
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| 03:50 | <craigevil> | hackndoes: install fbxkb or xkb for keyboard layouts no clue why you dont have icons on your panel |
| 03:51 | <hackndoes> | craigevil, so there is no desktop environment configuration like in gnome? |
| 03:51 | <craigevil> | lxappearance |
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| 03:52 | <craigevil> | Appearance should be in the Settings or Preferences menu |
| 03:52 | <southernc> | craig what do you use as a desktop manager ? |
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| 03:53 | <craigevil> | lxde and slim for login manager |
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| 03:53 | <southernc> | ahh |
| 03:55 | <hackndoes> | craigevil, it's like i have the task on the task bar but they all appear with a default icon not the application icon itself. any reason? |
| 03:55 | <hackndoes> | you know of? |
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| 03:55 | <southernc> | need icon set ? |
| 03:55 | <craigevil> | you can change it , yes you probably need to install a different icon set |
| 03:55 | <hackndoes> | but every application comes with it's icon, like iceweasel |
| 03:56 | <hackndoes> | well how do i configure that |
| 03:56 | <hackndoes> | ? |
| 03:56 | <southernc> | you would need to install a different icon set and i would assume use lxappearance to change your default |
| 03:56 | <craigevil> | find Appearance or launch lxappearance from alt-F2 and change your icons |
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| 03:57 | <cem> | mutlu gunler m'llet |
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| 03:58 | <hackndoes> | guys i do have system icons, i just don't have the small icon with the task. like if i run iceweasel, in the task bar there is the task but not the iceweasel "logo" while |
| 03:58 | <hackndoes> | for quick launch i have an icon |
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| 03:58 | <southernc> | cutout a postit note and stick it to your monitor (:0P |
| 03:59 | <southernc> | j/k errmm you tried updating your icons ? |
| 04:00 | <hackndoes> | southernc, is that meant for me? |
| 04:00 | <craigevil> | hackndoes: in your /home create a text filed called .gtkrc-2.0 |
| 04:00 | <southernc> | hackndoes: yes i was joking |
| 04:01 | <hackndoes> | craigevil, and now what? |
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| 04:01 | <craigevil> | run lxappearance and pick the icon set you want |
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| 04:02 | <craigevil> | you can use gnome icons but not kde |
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| 04:02 | <hackndoes> | but i already done that |
| 04:02 | <southernc> | clear look ftw |
| 04:02 | <hackndoes> | i have icons for the system, only i don't have them for the tasks |
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| 04:02 | <craigevil> | do it again after you create the file |
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| 04:03 | <craigevil> | its a bug in the version of lxde thats in testing |
| 04:03 | <hackndoes> | well i created the file with touch, touch .gtkrc-2.0 in home dir |
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| 04:03 | <hackndoes> | then changed my icons |
| 04:04 | <hackndoes> | nothing happened, and the file is still empty as i created it |
| 04:04 | <southernc> | then prolly gotta restart x |
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| 04:04 | <hackndoes> | K |
| 04:04 | <southernc> | ctrl alt del |
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| 04:04 | <craigevil> | shouldnt have to, but maybe the lxde in testing is buggy crap like that is why i run sid |
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| 04:04 | <hackndoes> | ctrl alt del does nothing |
| 04:04 | <hackndoes> | why? |
| 04:04 | <southernc> | of maybe doesnt support that |
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| 04:05 | <craigevil> | no its the new xorg :) |
| 04:05 | <southernc> | ahh |
| 04:05 | <emdete> | hi. i have serious filesystem problems (probably due to suspend/resume). the problem i have now is that several dpkg files are lost. is there a way to recover those (like /var/lib/dpkg/diversions and files in /var/lib/dpkg/info)? |
| 04:05 | <southernc> | have to manually add it in there ? |
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| 04:05 | <hackndoes> | ctrl alt backspace worked |
| 04:05 | <harryantix> | need help with antix |
| 04:05 | <hackndoes> | but still no icons for the tasks, how can i send prtscr? |
| 04:06 | <craigevil> | southernc: yes with Option "DontZap" "off" and sometimes with Option "XkbOptions" "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp" |
| 04:06 | <hackndoes> | craigevil, still nothing |
| 04:06 | <southernc> | yea thought i remeber reading about that now that i remeber |
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| 04:07 | <craigevil> | hackndoes: what icons are you trying to use? |
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| 04:07 | <hackndoes> | nuovext2 |
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| 04:07 | <craigevil> | try selecting gnome or tangerine if you have it installed |
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| 04:08 | <southernc> | he blew it up :( |
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| 04:08 | <hackndoes> | craigevil, nuovext2 |
| 04:08 | <southernc> | < craigevil> try selecting gnome or tangerine if you have it installed |
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| 04:09 | <hackndoes> | selected gnome |
| 04:09 | <hackndoes> | it changes the quick launch icons etc but not the tasks, will restart x again |
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| 04:09 | <craigevil> | i use the nifty icon set from http://cathbard.com/canabix-assorted.html, shiny green folders |
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| 04:10 | <hackndoes> | guys it just doesn't help |
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| 04:10 | <craigevil> | hackndoes: post a screenshot |
| 04:11 | <southernc> | brb |
| 04:11 | <hackndoes> | how should i do that? |
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| 04:11 | <hackndoes> | i mean, is there a pastebin like solution? |
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| 04:12 | <craigevil> | i use scrot its a cli app just do scrot -d 5 or just scrot |
| 04:12 | <craigevil> | !pastebin |
| 04:12 | <dpkg> | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Just use pastebinit (package) if you cannot cut & paste. |
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| 04:12 | <hackndoes> | thanks |
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| 04:16 | <ml|> | it's nice to have memtest working :) |
| 04:16 | <hackndoes> | craigevil, http://picpaste.com/2009-08-08-111410_1680x1050_scrot.png |
| 04:17 | <hackndoes> | look at the tasks icons |
| 04:18 | <craigevil> | the ones on the right? other than the panel plugins they depend on the app icons |
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| 04:19 | <hackndoes> | but those that are in the task cube itself |
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| 04:19 | <hackndoes> | those little gray and green windows like images |
| 04:19 | <hackndoes> | left to the text |
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| 04:21 | <xeon-enouf> | ml|: memtest? heh, now get memdisk to boot ;-P |
| 04:21 | <craigevil> | the image on the app? that should be whatever the icon for that app is |
| 04:21 | <hackndoes> | true, that's what i am saying yet you see that for xchat it's not the xchat icon |
| 04:21 | <xeon-enouf> | ml|: do you mean memtest86+? |
| 04:21 | <hackndoes> | it's a nothing |
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| 04:22 | <southernc> | hackndoes: try reinstall xchat and see if it fixes it |
| 04:22 | <southernc> | or something similiar |
| 04:22 | <hackndoes> | and iceweasel and everything else? |
| 04:23 | <southernc> | cause you did a weird upgrade/deupgrade |
| 04:23 | <hackndoes> | i didn't deupgrade |
| 04:23 | <hackndoes> | i am still in testing |
| 04:23 | <ml|> | xeon-enouf: of course :P |
| 04:24 | <southernc> | well just see if it corrects it by reinstalling like iceweasel or something |
| 04:24 | <southernc> | who knows |
| 04:24 | <hackndoes> | also, i have the startup programs from gnome setup starting here as well, how do i remove them only here? |
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| 04:24 | <hackndoes> | ok going for reinstall of xchat |
| 04:24 | <hackndoes> | back in a ew |
| 04:24 | <hackndoes> | few |
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| 04:24 | <craigevil> | hackndoes: no idea whats wrong either something with your upgrade or you are missing something |
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| 04:25 | <hackndoes> | no, not fixed |
| 04:25 | <hackndoes> | still same stinky window image |
| 04:25 | <xeon-enouf> | ml|: your RAM sucks? |
| 04:26 | <craigevil> | i only get that for apps that dont have a icon like when i do alt+f2 , http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/500/200908080423301280x1024.png |
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| 04:27 | <hackndoes> | so how come it happens to me? |
| 04:27 | <ml|> | xeon-enouf: no just doing a test and nice to have it on boot menu |
| 04:27 | <hackndoes> | i also see you have firefox and not iceweasel |
| 04:27 | <bash> | does anyone know what the P4 package is for QTcreator? |
| 04:27 | <craigevil> | hackndoes: yes i got tired of waiting for iceweasel 3.5.1 and now firefox is at 3.5.2 |
| 04:27 | <bash> | its for version control |
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| 04:28 | <bash> | unable to launch "p4":Unknown error |
| 04:28 | <hackndoes> | craigevil, do you have any ideas what should i do |
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| 04:29 | <craigevil> | hackndoes: nope trying looking through the lxde forum http://forum.lxde.org/ or the wiki |
| 04:29 | <hackndoes> | thanks |
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| 04:30 | <bash> | does anyone know what the P4 package is for QTcreator? |
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| 04:33 | <southernc> | lxde depends on lxshortcuts.... |
| 04:33 | <southernc> | cannot install |
| 04:34 | <southernc> | lxshortcut* |
| 04:34 | <craigevil> | southernc: you can do one of 2 things grab lxshortcut from incoming.debian.org or add Andrew Lee's repo to your sources.list |
| 04:35 | <craigevil> | or wait a few days until it hits sid |
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| 04:35 | <southernc> | whats andrew lee's repo ? |
| 04:35 | <craigevil> | hes the lxde maintainer, before he became a debian dev he had his own lxde repo |
| 04:35 | <southernc> | ahh |
| 04:36 | <craigevil> | deb http://people.linux.org.tw/~andrew/debian/lxde/ ./ only things in it now are lxtask, lxshortcut and sakura |
| 04:36 | <craigevil> | once everything is in sid he will probably stop using it, he's only been a DD since June or July |
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| 04:40 | <southernc> | ~any idea where you get the key from ? |
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| 04:43 | <craigevil> | gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 9D0633E1B6250985 |
| 04:44 | <southernc> | hmm thankyou |
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| 04:44 | <craigevil> | gpg --export --armor 9D0633E1B6250985 | apt-key add - |
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| 04:49 | <bartm> | I need help from xchat users for http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=535950 |
| 04:49 | <bartm> | where in xchat do I find "user-defined icons in userlist" ? |
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| 04:59 | <Nemoder> | http://xchat.org/faq/#q27 |
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| 04:59 | <ml|> | craigevil: sakura is a nice terminal, didn't notice it was in the repos |
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| 05:00 | <ml|> | yup not in debian must only in his repo correct? |
| 05:00 | <craigevil> | yes so far |
| 05:01 | <ml|> | when used arch i used sakura :) |
| 05:01 | <ml|> | *i |
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| 05:03 | <ml|> | craigevil: if you don't mind, please let me know when the change over occurs? |
| 05:03 | <craigevil> | you can keep an eye on his packages> http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=andrew@linux.org.tw |
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| 05:04 | <ml|> | ok thanks |
| 05:05 | <craigevil> | sakura hasnt even made it into the New queue not sure why |
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| 05:29 | <wekt> | What are good documents to learn about using deb-src related tools? |
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| 05:30 | <dcorking> | i downloaded a lisp package whose asd is not compatible with Debian's common-lisp-controller. How can I bypass clc? |
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| 05:30 | <Tinctorius> | hai gaize |
| 05:31 | <Tinctorius> | I'm trying to do a fresh install of Debian Lenny on my PC, but my setup is being a bitch |
| 05:31 | <Tinctorius> | I only have SATA disks (sda, sdb, sdc), so installing from a USB drive screws up everything |
| 05:31 | <Tinctorius> | any ideas? |
| 05:32 | <handjob> | Good morning gentleman. Don't loath couse what i am about to ask may seem funny (it's one of thoes post friday mind eclipses) : how can one copy two files at once using 'cp' command? |
| 05:32 | <Tinctorius> | handjob: cp [list of files] [destination directory] |
| 05:32 | <Tinctorius> | e.g.: |
| 05:32 | <Tinctorius> | cp foo bar baz some_directory |
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| 05:33 | <handjob> | Tinctorius, Thank. What bugs me is why tab auto filling does not work in secound element ? eg : cp lol (works) dongs (does not). |
| 05:33 | <Bimbo> | Hello. I'm know to debian and the communication culture like irc and pidgin. I like to install pidgin to be better connected with my friends. An "apt-cache --names-only search pidgin" shows me a lot of possible packages to install. Which one you can recommended me -- ok. the package pidgin I will install. But there are more. |
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| 05:33 | <wekt> | Tinctorius: why does it not work? |
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| 05:34 | <Tinctorius> | handjob: wouldn't know, it often just works for me |
| 05:34 | <handjob> | wekt, sadly not. |
| 05:34 | <Tinctorius> | handjob: it could be that it only understands you if the second argument is a possible directory, but that'd be stupid |
| 05:35 | <handjob> | Tinctorius, I totaly agree it would not be wise. |
| 05:35 | <wekt> | cp --target-directory=DIRECTORY |
| 05:35 | <Tinctorius> | handjob: but it does that for some viewers too. For instance, the first argument of evince only tab completes if it's something "possibly readable" for evince, solely based on its extension |
| 05:36 | <Tinctorius> | and extensions are Bad |
| 05:36 | <Tinctorius> | :< |
| 05:36 | <wekt> | Tinctorius: I also have SATA and was able to install from USB by putting an ISO image on a second partition of the USB Drive. |
| 05:37 | <Tinctorius> | :S |
| 05:37 | <Tinctorius> | for me, it installs grub on the USB disk |
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| 05:37 | <Tinctorius> | could retry it with setting the USB disk to ro instead of rw |
| 05:37 | <handjob> | Ah i am stupid - the problem is solved. I thought that auto filling will also work in case of cp /path/to/one-doc 2nd-doc /path/to. |
| 05:37 | <Tinctorius> | ah :P |
| 05:37 | <Tinctorius> | handjob: cp /path/to/{one-doc,2nd-doc} /path/to/new |
| 05:37 | <handjob> | Sorry for wasting your time gentleman. |
| 05:38 | <wekt> | Tinctorius: maybe i had a problem w/grub. i don't recall. |
| 05:38 | <Tinctorius> | automatically expands to /path/to/one-doc /path/to/2nd-doc |
| 05:38 | <handjob> | Tinctorius, didn't knew you can do that.Thank you! |
| 05:38 | <Tinctorius> | handjob: try it -- using echo of course, not cp ;) |
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| 05:42 | <Tinctorius> | wekt: but it's pretty hard to reformat a USB disk under Windows XP and up |
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| 05:42 | <Tinctorius> | wekt: it marks it as an "active partition" |
| 05:42 | <Tinctorius> | and apparently there's no standard way of solving that, other than installing a custom formatting tool |
| 05:42 | <Tinctorius> | s/custom/3rd party/ |
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| 05:48 | <Tinctorius> | brb fuxxing up my complete setup to get Debian working |
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| 05:50 | <dcorking> | someone at Freenode#lisp is helping with my common-lisp-controller problem - please ignore |
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| 06:00 | <wekt> | It looked like someone had addressed me, but when I went to look, Xorg crashed. Maybe it was a response to my question of sources to learn about using deb-src? |
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| 06:10 | <Chrisssssssss> | Hi. I have a problem with mdadm. Three of my five disks in the array have a different events count than the last two and i am having a hard time to assemble the array because of that. Is there a way to reset the events count in a safe way so i can start the array again? |
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| 06:25 | <Abs0luT> | i have problem. i installed sudo configurated for root user and when run terminal in winscp and i want to run .sh files it says access denied |
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| 06:40 | <jubuntu> | la polla |
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| 07:26 | <valdyn> | Chrisssssssss: --assume-clean or somesuch |
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| 07:26 | <valdyn> | Chrisssssssss: see the manpage |
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| 07:36 | <tomj> | Hi i just installed Debian Lenny on my Dell Inspiron 1525 laptop. Im able to ping websites but they are not opening in the browser. |
| 07:37 | <tomj> | My NIC is Marvell Yukon 88E8040 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller |
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| 07:37 | <tomj> | any way to fix this ? |
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| 07:41 | <dr|z3d> | tomj: Which browser? |
| 07:41 | <dr|z3d> | If you can ping sites, your nic is fine. |
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| 07:41 | <tomj> | dr|z3d: i tried both Iceweasel and the default browser |
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| 07:43 | <tomj> | the progressbar shows some content is loading but the webpage does not open |
| 07:43 | <tomj> | occasionally the google.com homepage opened but apart from that no other webpage comes up, but im able to ping their urls |
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| 07:44 | <tomj> | to i need to install any drivers ? |
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| 07:45 | <dr|z3d> | You've got net access, of sorts. So, no. |
| 07:45 | <dr|z3d> | Can you install midori and see if that fares any better. aptitude install midori |
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| 07:46 | <tomj> | dr|z3d: k..ill try that |
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| 07:46 | <bremner> | tomj: httping can measure the network lag to a website. aptitude install httping && httping www.google.com |
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| 07:47 | <tomj> | bremner: ok |
| 07:48 | <bremner> | of course, aptitude might need the same network tubes... |
| 07:48 | <stepomaticc> | tomj: try a traceroute, check your gateway: netstat -rn |
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| 07:49 | <tomj> | stepomaticc: ok..will do that too |
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| 08:00 | <Plorf> | hi there |
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| 08:07 | <stepomaticc> | Plorf: salut |
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| 08:16 | <Plorf> | i've got a damn bug in sid, my laptop running quite well under testing but while going into sid (then i thought only the kernel release is changed), gdm/xorg crash, it seems than a font bug, it crash when i began to write my username at the first character, and if i click somewhere in order to open another window (like language selection) it crash too. any ideas ? |
| 08:17 | <Plorf> | damn :( |
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| 08:26 | <bremner> | Plorf: check the BTS |
| 08:26 | <bremner> | Plorf: PS, as you can see, sid changes more than just the kernel |
| 08:26 | <bremner> | unfortunately downgrading is not easy |
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| 08:30 | <wekt> | problems in sid may notbe in BTS. |
| 08:30 | <wekt> | Plorf: does it crash reliably ? |
| 08:30 | <wekt> | Plorf: reproducibly? |
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| 08:31 | <wekt> | Plorf: My Xorg crashes to in testing. I'm using the Intel server. and you? |
| 08:31 | <Plorf> | yes it crash everytime |
| 08:31 | <Plorf> | (sorry i'm eating :/) |
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| 08:31 | <Plorf> | BTS ? |
| 08:31 | <wekt> | !bts |
| 08:31 | <dpkg> | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges |
| 08:32 | <Plorf> | i'm intel too, amd64 |
| 08:32 | <Plorf> | i check there but find nothing |
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| 08:35 | <wekt> | Plorf: It crashes every time at the same time when you do the same thing? And that thing you do is type a certain character? |
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| 08:40 | <ykatchou> | sorry :/ disconnection |
| 08:40 | <ykatchou> | then |
| 08:40 | <ykatchou> | 14:37 < Plorf> it crash in some cases : when i type something, nothing appears it crash just (before typing i can do ctrl+alt+F1 and go into a shell), if i put on autologin it crash too, it i click on a link below the screen it crash too while trying to open a window |
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| 08:40 | <wekt> | Where does the XServer log go? |
| 08:40 | <ykatchou> | nothing at all :( |
| 08:40 | <abrotman> | /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 08:40 | <ykatchou> | i've got some warnings about xkb |
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| 08:41 | <wekt> | ykatchou: are you plorf? |
| 08:41 | <ykatchou> | yeap |
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| 08:41 | <Plorf> | sorry XD |
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| 08:42 | <wekt> | There are some bug entries about crashes here: |
| 08:42 | <wekt> | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 08:43 | <Plorf> | yeaphttp://paste.debian.net/43670/ |
| 08:44 | <wekt> | I see 2 about "Fatal Server Error: lockup" appearing in the log. We should check the logs next time. |
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| 08:45 | <Plorf> | for me the weird point is, it runs under testing but not under sid.... |
| 08:46 | <Plorf> | on the same laptop, i boot under sid it crash, but like now if i boot under testing kernel it runs... |
| 08:46 | <wekt> | Plorf: your crash seems different than mine. |
| 08:46 | <Plorf> | maybe |
| 08:46 | <azeem_> | Plorf: sid is unstable |
| 08:46 | <azeem_> | so that something is broken in sid is not exactly weird |
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| 08:47 | <Plorf> | lol |
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| 08:47 | <Plorf> | of course, but i don't see where the difference is between sid and testing on the same computers... libs are the same isn't it ? |
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| 08:49 | <Plorf> | it's a macbook intel, so the intel chipstet is i3180 or something like this |
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| 08:54 | <Plorf> | i've to leave, but i'll check asap and give feedbacks :) |
| 08:54 | <Plorf> | see ya |
| 08:54 | <Plorf> | ++ |
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| 08:56 | <amitav> | I have a minimal install iso with me but my friend has finished blank cds. So I am trying to install using my USB stick of 2 bg. Can I get the boot.img.gz, initrd.gz and vmlinuz files in the iso? |
| 08:58 | <abrotman> | huh? |
| 09:00 | <amitav> | correct me if I am wrong anywhere |
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| 09:02 | <Gompile> | hi |
| 09:02 | <Gompile> | I installed proftpd |
| 09:02 | <Gompile> | but users cannot connect |
| 09:03 | <Gompile> | I have authuserfile on /etc/passwd en requirevalidshell off |
| 09:03 | <Gompile> | the users their homedir is reachable, in samba it works |
| 09:03 | <Gompile> | what could this be ? |
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| 09:06 | <amitav> | http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 says I need those 3 files only thats why I asked abt them |
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| 09:09 | <Staale> | I have a wireless router on my network with it's own network and dhcp. How can I route from the server, through the router to devices connected to the router? |
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| 09:09 | <Staale> | I have tried to do: sudo route add -net <network> gw <ip of router from my dhcp> |
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| 09:12 | <yq> | anyone can help me solve network problem? |
| 09:13 | <shay> | you wont get far if you just ask to ask |
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| 09:14 | <yq> | i have a ibm thinkpad t43 with a netxtrem bcm5751 network interface card |
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| 09:14 | <yq> | after install debian 5 ,i can't get on internet |
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| 09:15 | <abrotman> | yq: lspci -nn .. what is the pciid ? |
| 09:15 | <Gompile> | anybody here with proftpd knowledge ? |
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| 09:15 | <Gompile> | basic proftpd user authencation knowledge.... |
| 09:16 | <yq> | what is pciid ? |
| 09:16 | <yq> | i'm new to debian |
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| 09:16 | <shay> | yq: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Broadcom_BCM4312_802.11b/g |
| 09:16 | <shay> | next time google it yoruself |
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| 09:16 | <ps0> | hi |
| 09:17 | <ps0> | H8 JEWS!!!!!!! |
| 09:17 | <ps0> | X |
| 09:17 | <ps0> | XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX |
| 09:17 | <ps0> | XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX |
| 09:17 | <ps0> | XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX |
| 09:17 | <ps0> | XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX |
| 09:17 | <ps0> | XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX |
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| 09:17 | <shay> | h8 retards... |
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| 09:19 | <yq> | does 2.6.82 support broadcom netxtrem bcm5751? |
| 09:20 | <abrotman> | yq: the pciid is the xxxx:xxxx toward the end of the line |
| 09:20 | <bremner> | 2.6.82? |
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| 09:27 | <hackndoes> | i am trying to make a shift to lxde but have one small problem, on the lxpanel the applications task has no icon |
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| 09:29 | <Gompile> | anybody here with proftpd knowledge ? |
| 09:30 | <Gompile> | basic proftpd user authencation knowledge.... |
| 09:30 | <bremner> | !tell Gompile -about ask |
| 09:30 | <Gompile> | I installed proftpd |
| 09:30 | <Gompile> | but users cannot connect |
| 09:30 | <Gompile> | I have authuserfile on /etc/passwd en requirevalidshell off |
| 09:30 | <Gompile> | the users their homedir is reachable, in samba it works |
| 09:31 | <frank> | i used update-initramfs to generate an initrd, but the modules.dep is not included, howto include this file in the initrd? |
| 09:31 | <abrotman> | Gompile: did you check the proftpd log ? |
| 09:32 | <Gompile> | I tried couldnt find logfiles so I just started proftpd in interactive mode |
| 09:32 | <Gompile> | it says user not found |
| 09:32 | <Gompile> | if I enable authuser file /etc/passwd it says password incorrect |
| 09:33 | <Gompile> | but the users are set up right in passwd ... they have shell access and samba access |
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| 09:34 | <Gompile> | doesnt proftpd use the standard passwd if authuserfile is disabled? |
| 09:34 | <Gompile> | and if not how do I add users to proftpd |
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| 09:37 | <eeeuser> | Dumb q. #4: Is there a quick way to rebuild a deb package when all you did was change the control file. I am fixing lintian errors in a little package, and am kinda new to the process. |
| 09:38 | <Gompile> | remove and reinstall the package |
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| 09:38 | <Gompile> | or dpkg-reconfigure I guess |
| 09:38 | <bremner> | eeeuser: debuild |
| 09:38 | <eeeuser> | thanks |
| 09:39 | <bremner> | Gompile: are there any hints in /usr/share/doc/proftpd ? |
| 09:40 | <Gompile> | bremner there is no usr/share/doc dir |
| 09:40 | <Gompile> | at least not here |
| 09:40 | <bremner> | every debian package installs something into /usr/share/doc/packagename, even if it is only "copyright" |
| 09:41 | <bremner> | maybe the package name is something different? |
| 09:41 | <bremner> | I guess /usr/share/doc/proftpd-basic |
| 09:42 | <Gompile> | well to be perfectly honest.. am not on a debian box ... busybox is installed here but I can't find any real livesupport fot it |
| 09:42 | <Gompile> | I figured since it probably is a proftpd related problem u guys can help |
| 09:42 | <eeeuser> | bremner: what provides debuild? apt-file does't show any binaries... only /usr/share.. |
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| 09:42 | <OdyX> | bremner: changelog.Debian also, huh ? |
| 09:43 | <bremner> | Gompile: well, that will make everybody here pretty pissed off at you |
| 09:43 | <bremner> | eeeuser: devscripts I believe |
| 09:43 | <eeeuser> | Oh. Typo I see. debbuild vs debuild. |
| 09:43 | <bremner> | OdyX: err, yes. Or maybe it is just called changelog sometimes. |
| 09:44 | <Gompile> | bremner : is that true ? |
| 09:44 | <OdyX> | I thought that having it named as changelog.Debian was mandatory (at least dh doest it like that) |
| 09:44 | <OdyX> | anyway, not an issue... |
| 09:44 | <bremner> | Gompile: for one thing, giving your decent help is impossible since we don't know how proftpd is configured in your environment |
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| 09:45 | <bremner> | Gompile: for another, people volunteer their time to help Debian, not replace your ISPs helpdesk. |
| 09:45 | <Gompile> | bremner : hmm you might have a point there.. sorry |
| 09:45 | <bremner> | Gompile: maybe you can find a proftpd specific list/channel |
| 09:46 | <bremner> | Gompile: but make sure you tell them _everything_ about your environment |
| 09:46 | <Gompile> | bremner thanks.. you happen to know an irc server where I could find such channel ? |
| 09:46 | <gsimmons> | Gompile: #proftpd on irc.freenode.net. |
| 09:46 | <Gompile> | gsimmons thanks |
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| 09:52 | <frank> | ll |
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| 10:01 | < | [OMEGA][OMEGA]> FUCK I"AM HORNY |
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| 10:04 | <codeangel> | connect irc.hackthissite.org |
| 10:04 | <hackndoes> | i am trying to make a shift to lxde but have one small problem, on the lxpanel the applications task has no icon |
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| 10:06 | <Aleric> | What can play ogg vorbis sound files? |
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| 10:08 | <cahoot> | any musicålayer on a linux dist I'd say |
| 10:08 | <dr|z3d> | Aleric: Most stuff should be able to; try exaile, perhaps. |
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| 10:09 | <Aleric> | cahoot: I tried aplay ... didn't work :p |
| 10:10 | <cahoot> | alay isn't a musicplayer |
| 10:10 | <dcorking> | I got torta working with debian common-lisp-controller - details on irc.freenode.net #lisp |
| 10:10 | <cahoot> | it can handle wavs though |
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| 10:14 | <dcorking> | cahoot: videolan client, or rhythmbox |
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| 10:19 | <Aleric> | exaile couldn't do it |
| 10:19 | <Aleric> | Is there some utility that can play .ogg from the commandline? |
| 10:19 | <dcorking> | Aleric, videolan client, or rhythmbox . If must have console try mp3blaster |
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| 10:20 | <bja> | mocp |
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| 10:21 | <Aleric> | ogg123 was it. |
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| 10:48 | <wekt> | Aleric: alsaplayer |
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| 11:08 | <farhad> | hi , how can i install nvidia-glx-legacy-173-xx ? it has dependency problems , i read an article about installing nvidia-kernel with m-a but it was about nvidia-glx and i dont know how can i do this for nvidia-glx-legacy |
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| 11:19 | <francesco> | there are someone there? |
| 11:19 | <bja> | !ask |
| 11:19 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 11:19 | <francesco> | i want to speak about kde 4.3 and lenny |
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| 11:21 | <francesco> | i want to know if there are kde 4.3 packages for lenny |
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| 11:21 | <legnaleurc> | !kde |
| 11:21 | <dpkg> | [kde][kde] K Desktop Environment, based on the Qt toolkit. See http://www.kde.org/ for release news and other details. Not a window manager. To get KDE, ask me about <install kde>. Ask your KDE questions in #debian-kde (irc.oftc.net), see also <kde_trouble>. http://wiki.debian.org/KDE KDE-related IRC channels: http://wiki.kde.org/IRC+Channels |
| 11:21 | <rjent> | Greetings, I am attempting to get the d-i partman-auto to install debian on the partition space after WinXP for dual boot. This is a reference of my info http://paste.debian.net/43642/ |
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| 11:21 | <rjent> | Will that config do as I expect? |
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| 11:24 | <edbian> | I have a strange issue. I have 2 identical cd-drives in my debian PC. In Computer there is only 1 drive listed (I think they are probing as the exact same thing and confusing the system). If I put in two different CD's then a second drive comes up with a (2): added in the title |
| 11:27 | <bja> | edbian: What wm are you using? |
| 11:27 | <edbian> | metacity |
| 11:27 | <edbian> | (gnome) |
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| 11:35 | <yq> | i get a problem,when i boot debian from harddrive, ifconfig give me a wrong mac address of my eth card,but if i boot from live cd,ifconfig will give me the correct mac address ,can anyone help me solve this problem? |
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| 11:37 | <SuperMiguel> | besides firefox does any of u guys run any other program completelly in ram? |
| 11:37 | <SuperMiguel> | like this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1120475 for another program? |
| 11:37 | <tuxcrafter> | hi all i am tryuing to create 32MB partion but fdisk fails on me can somebody help me? |
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| 11:37 | <tuxcrafter> | http://debian.pastebin.com/d744ebed |
| 11:39 | <yq> | what's this |
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| 11:44 | <tuxcrafter> | wrong channel i wanted to post it on #debian |
| 11:44 | <abrotman> | tuxcrafter: you are in #debian |
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| 11:50 | <sHyLoCk> | Hi! When I close iceweasel the firefox-bin process keeps on running. I cat open a new browser window unles i do killall firefox-bin or remove the .parentlock. Any ideas? |
| 11:51 | <olet> | how long have you waited? |
| 11:51 | <sHyLoCk> | about 3-5mins once |
| 11:52 | <sHyLoCk> | and the next time i just waited the entire session without killing it |
| 11:53 | <sHyLoCk> | these are the addons i have Adblock Plus 1.1, DownThem All 1.1.4, FEBE 6.2, Flashgot 1.1.9.8, OmpLoader 0.2.9, user Agent Switcher 0.7.2 |
| 11:53 | <slash111> | go up to the panel pres right click and the ADD, system monitor, then click in it, and a windows hould be appear, search the proces and kill it |
| 11:53 | <yq> | i boot debian from harddrive, ifconfig give me a wrong mac address of my eth card,but if i boot from live cd,ifconfig will give me the correct mac address ,can anyone help me solve this problem? |
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| 11:54 | <tuxcrafter> | abrotman: /me seems i am loosing it :D |
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| 11:55 | <sHyLoCk> | slash111: yeah i can kill it alright, but to do it everytime is tedious |
| 11:55 | <tuxcrafter> | btw i solved my partion issue > http://debian.pastebin.com/d1c65c12f |
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| 12:08 | * | davi is compiling IceCat |
| 12:08 | <davi> | ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnuzilla/3.5.2/ |
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| 12:11 | <tuxcrafter> | !debian-updates |
| 12:12 | <tuxcrafter> | !lenny-updates |
| 12:12 | <tuxcrafter> | backports? |
| 12:12 | <abrotman> | you can msg the bot |
| 12:12 | <tuxcrafter> | abrotman: can you show me an example? /msg dpkg ?? |
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| 12:13 | <abrotman> | tuxcrafter: /msg dpkg foo |
| 12:15 | <tuxcrafter> | deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free |
| 12:15 | <tuxcrafter> | so that should be engoung for a system with all updates to stable? |
| 12:15 | <tuxcrafter> | no other stable repos needed ? |
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| 12:17 | <OdyX> | !security |
| 12:17 | <dpkg> | Put "deb http://security.debian.org lenny/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to keep up-to-date on security updates in stable. Run "aptitude update" and "aptitude upgrade" (or "aptitude dist-upgrade" if the updates are kept back). Also ask me about <oldstable security>, <testing security>, <unstable security>. |
| 12:17 | <OdyX> | tuxcrafter: you need that one |
| 12:19 | <crash_> | what is the diff between apt-get update and aptitude update? it does the samething right? |
| 12:19 | <OdyX> | !aptitude |
| 12:19 | <dpkg> | [aptitude][aptitude] a terminal-based package manager that can be used in a command-line mode (aptitude install foo ; aptitude remove goo) as well as a text user interface mode (just run "aptitude"). Ask me about <why aptitude> <why not aptitude> <aptitude-fu> or see http://wiki.debian.org/Aptitude |
| 12:20 | <OdyX> | crash_: they do not share the same dependency resolver |
| 12:20 | <crash_> | oh i see |
| 12:20 | <OdyX> | !tell crash_ about why aptitude |
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| 12:21 | <crash_> | Thank you OdyX :D |
| 12:21 | <crash_> | i have another question for you, how well supported is wifi over wpa in the debian installer? |
| 12:22 | <abrotman> | i odn't think it is in the installer |
| 12:22 | <abrotman> | and it would depend if your hardware needs firmware anyways |
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| 12:22 | <OdyX> | afaik, not in the installer... |
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| 12:23 | <jon_davis> | does any-one know how i can make all the chatrooms work.i cant seem to get in to all of them |
| 12:23 | <abrotman> | all? |
| 12:23 | <jon_davis> | yes or some |
| 12:23 | <crash_> | ok i see, So i need to install debian from cd first and then i can get the wifi over wpa after the firstboot up and running? |
| 12:23 | <cahoot> | I thought noone in a chatroom actually worked |
| 12:23 | <abrotman> | jon_davis: using which IRC client? |
| 12:24 | <jon_davis> | 2600 |
| 12:24 | <abrotman> | huh? |
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| 12:24 | <jon_davis> | or love/sex chatrooms |
| 12:24 | <abrotman> | jon_davis: how is this related to Debian ? |
| 12:24 | <jon_davis> | i not sure where to go |
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| 12:24 | <jon_davis> | i want to know |
| 12:25 | <OdyX> | crash_: better run the install with wired internet... |
| 12:25 | <abrotman> | this channel is for Debian support |
| 12:25 | <locklace> | !lart jon_davis |
| 12:25 | * | dpkg holds jon_davis to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails |
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| 12:25 | <jon_davis> | look i like to talk. and i want to know where to go |
| 12:25 | <crash_> | OdyX, I only have wifi here at my home, but maybe i can share the internet connection from my ws through wired just for the install part. |
| 12:26 | <jon_davis> | tell me where to go |
| 12:26 | <abrotman> | not here ... |
| 12:26 | <jon_davis> | tell me where to go' |
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| 12:26 | <jon_davis> | i want to know |
| 12:27 | <OdyX> | crash_: the other solution might be to temporarily disable wifi encryption (replace it by mac-address filtering e.g.) for the install |
| 12:27 | <abrotman> | how the hell would we know .. just use google to find an irc channel/server for your needs |
| 12:27 | <OdyX> | jon_davis: #dev-null |
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| 12:27 | <OdyX> | jon_davis: its a place for people who like to talk |
| 12:27 | <jon_davis> | what irc chatroom do i go to to just talk and have fun |
| 12:27 | <OdyX> | jon_davis: don't forget to quit this channel afterwards.. |
| 12:27 | <crash_> | OdyX, Yeah i can turn of the wifi encryption and make it open just for the install |
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| 12:29 | <jon_davis> | i dont see the irc chatrooms that yall r talking about |
| 12:30 | <abrotman> | jon_davis: please go use google .. this has nothing to do with Debian |
| 12:30 | <OdyX> | jon_davis: type "/join #dev-null" |
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| 12:30 | <abrotman> | OdyX: you're not helping .. he'll just end up back here |
| 12:30 | <OdyX> | true abrotman |
| 12:31 | <jon_davis> | i want real irc chatroom to here i dont to need to ask for just help |
| 12:31 | <jon_davis> | now tell me where to go |
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| 12:31 | <coolcubix> | that's what happens when xchat defaults to #debian :) |
| 12:31 | <valdyn> | on ubuntu |
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| 12:32 | <jon_davis> | dont just tell me here and what chatroom to go to and there is notthing there |
| 12:32 | <jon_davis> | i want to know tell me plese |
| 12:33 | <valdyn> | jon_davis: we are not the yellow pages |
| 12:33 | <valdyn> | jon_davis: please take the advice you got -> use google |
| 12:33 | <jon_davis> | i dont care |
| 12:33 | * | OdyX votes for jon_davis being a bot |
| 12:33 | <jon_davis> | yall know the best irc chatrooms |
| 12:33 | <valdyn> | !ops jon_davis |
| 12:33 | <dpkg> | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: valdyn complains about: jon_davis |
| 12:33 | <bremner> | no, we only know lame ones like this |
| 12:33 | -!- | mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ |
| 12:33 | -!- | mode/#debian [+b *!*@ppp-70-129-166-51.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] by abrotman |
| 12:33 | -!- | mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman |
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| 12:33 | <abrotman> | jon_davis: you've been silenced for 10 minutes, please go use google to find chat rooms |
| 12:34 | <locklace> | !room |
| 12:34 | <dpkg> | CHANNEL! |
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| 12:36 | -!- | mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ |
| 12:36 | -!- | mode/#debian [-b *!*@ppp-70-129-166-51.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] by abrotman |
| 12:36 | -!- | mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman |
| 12:36 | <bremner> | I wonder if we should point people to http://searchirc.com (that is a recommendation from another channel topic) |
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| 12:38 | <abrotman> | bremner: oddly google "search irc chat rooms" .. first link |
| 12:40 | <bremner> | abrotman: yeah, but half the time the first hit in google is a nest of spam :) |
| 12:40 | <slash111> | hello, i got an amd64 prossesor, and ubuntu 64bit OS, but i dont know if is better install a OS like a 32bits |
| 12:41 | <abrotman> | slash111: install debian 32 or 64 you mean? |
| 12:41 | <Myon> | there is little difference |
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| 12:41 | <Myon> | unless you have a 32bit-only application, switching won't change anything |
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| 12:41 | <bremner> | or you have more than 4G of memory |
| 12:42 | <abrotman> | bremner: not true |
| 12:42 | -!- | ubuntu is now known as Guest204 |
| 12:42 | <slash111> | now i got ubuntu, but i want to install debian |
| 12:42 | <bremner> | abrotman: you refer to PAE? |
| 12:43 | <abrotman> | !bigmem |
| 12:43 | <dpkg> | For i386, -bigmem linux-images support up to 64 GB of RAM. If you have more than about 3.4 GB of RAM, install and use this to see everything past the sub ~3.4 GB limit (but with additional CPU overhead). Alternatively, use an amd64 kernel which doesn't need hacks like bigmem. |
| 12:43 | <Guest204> | i know how to mount my lvm partitions but the way i learn things is by first learning how to do things then understanding how/why it works, so my question is when my mount my home partition why must i do?: mount /dev/mapper/debian-home /mnt/debian-home instead of mount /mnt/debian-home (i noticed that all the lvm partitions have /dev/mapper/ but I just do not know why) |
| 12:44 | <bremner> | abrotman: "but with additional CPU overhead" :) |
| 12:44 | <abrotman> | bremner: or use the -amd64 ? |
| 12:44 | <Guest204> | o wait i think i no the answer |
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| 12:44 | <abrotman> | slash111: if you have binary-only 32bit software, the 32bit version is probably more ideal |
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| 12:44 | <Guest204> | /dev/mapper/debian-home is where the partition is and i want to mount it in /mnt/debian-home? |
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| 12:46 | <Guest204> | abrotman, source code is not architecture specific, right? |
| 12:46 | <slash111> | my computer is amd 64, but is better install in it an 32 OS or 64 OS? |
| 12:46 | <abrotman> | Guest204: wasn't referring to your question |
| 12:46 | <abrotman> | slash111: if you have binary-only 32bit software, the 32bit version is probably more ideal |
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| 12:46 | <Guest204> | abrotman, i know but i just wanted to know |
| 12:46 | <abrotman> | Guest204: the code can have architecture specific sections |
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| 12:48 | <Guest204> | abrotman, ya but thats like stuff that like control CPU multipliers and that kind of software not things like pidgin, right? |
| 12:48 | <abrotman> | why wouldn't it be possible? |
| 12:48 | <Guest204> | u mean to have pidgin architecture-specific code? |
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| 12:51 | <Guest204> | fglrx-driver is proprietary...does anyone know why debian packages has the fglrx-driver source code??? if it's not the lack of source code, then what is it that makes fglrx-driver proprietary?? |
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| 12:51 | <Guest204> | or non-free to use debian's terms |
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| 12:55 | <mikekn> | hello,i just installed lenny on my machine,but when i start it, i get at a login shell, no GUI |
| 12:55 | <mikekn> | i remember that i have installed the desktop too |
| 12:56 | <mikekn> | i tried startx as root, but it says command not found |
| 12:56 | <mikekn> | please help |
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| 13:02 | <southernc> | zzZzZz |
| 13:03 | <southernc> | good morning ml| |
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| 13:06 | <ml|> | does reportbug keep a log of what it sends out? or someway to verify that it went out, i did receive a successful message at the end of the process, also i looked thru the logs and i see no error messages, used it to report a bug a day ago and still have not received an email, i remember the process not taking this long |
| 13:06 | <ml|> | southernc: hello |
| 13:07 | <abrotman> | don't tihnk it does .. did you check your mailq to see if it actually went ? |
| 13:09 | <southernc> | ml whats the command to force a removal of a installed package |
| 13:10 | <ml|> | -f |
| 13:10 | <southernc> | yea that aint working |
| 13:10 | <abrotman> | that's not how you force a removal |
| 13:10 | <abrotman> | southernc: put the errors in paste.debian.net |
| 13:11 | <southernc> | wish i could i cant even install elinks |
| 13:11 | <abrotman> | w3m already installed ? |
| 13:12 | <southernc> | not sure how i can paste an error from a tty to w3m though |
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| 13:12 | <ml|> | yeah -f is not for that sorry, got it mixed up with something else |
| 13:13 | <abrotman> | !pastewithoutx |
| 13:13 | <dpkg> | Install gpm, which gives you familiar mouse functionality from the console ; or upload a file to http://pastebin.ca/upload.php; or: apt-get install w3m ; w3m http://channels.debian.net/paste ; hit enter on the Big Box, it will open /usr/bin/editor where you can insert the file, then save ; then hit enter on the submit button in w3m, or the "screen" utility also provides keyboard driven copy/paste, or ask me about <paste2pastebin pipe> |
| 13:13 | <abrotman> | or use #flood |
| 13:13 | <southernc> | hmm |
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| 13:14 | <southernc> | well the problem is everytime i try and install something it tries to automatically remove fglrx-driver fglrx-glx and it keeps giving me diversion errors |
| 13:15 | <southernc> | so it wont allow me to install |
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| 13:18 | <southernc> | no diversion 'diversion of /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so by fglrx-driver. none removed also same output it gives for libglx.so |
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| 13:19 | <ml|> | abrotman: thanks just checked mailq and it tells me it's 'frozen' looking at manpage, trying to understand what that means |
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| 13:20 | <ml|> | southernc: is this a new install? |
| 13:20 | <southernc> | dist-upgrade |
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| 13:20 | <southernc> | squeeze/sid |
| 13:21 | <ml|> | lenny was up to date before you did this? |
| 13:21 | <southernc> | yea |
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| 13:21 | <ml|> | hmm |
| 13:21 | <southernc> | problem being it wont remove fglrx if i could do that i could figure out something else |
| 13:22 | <southernc> | the correct syntax for dpkg-force remove package ? |
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| 13:22 | <ml|> | aptitude purge does not work? |
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| 13:23 | <southernc> | same error |
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| 13:25 | <ml|> | dunno, never had to do anything like that |
| 13:25 | <southernc> | arent you lucky :) |
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| 13:26 | <southernc> | !dpkg force remove |
| 13:26 | <dpkg> | i guess force remove is 'dpkg -P nagios-common'; if no joy, 'dpkg -L nagios-common' this will give you a list of files to delete when the next step is done. Go to /var/lib/dpkg/info and 'rm nagios-common.postrm' && 'apt-get remove --purge nagios-common'. Remove listed files (dpkg -L) and report a bug if it is the case. |
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| 13:30 | <southernc> | well that fixed that peroblem :) |
| 13:31 | <ml|> | !congratulate southernc |
| 13:31 | <dpkg> | Yay southernc, you did it! |
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| 13:31 | <Abs0luT> | can u tell me whats the difference between vps and dedicated servers |
| 13:32 | <dr|z3d> | Abs0luT: Price, usually. |
| 13:32 | <dr|z3d> | And performance. |
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| 13:32 | <Abs0luT> | ex. i want to run cs server |
| 13:32 | <Abs0luT> | better would be dedicated ? |
| 13:32 | <dr|z3d> | Indeed it would. |
| 13:33 | <Abs0luT> | thanks indeed :) |
| 13:33 | <dr|z3d> | With a VPS, you're sharing your server with other users. |
| 13:33 | -!- | roma [~roma@pool15.magma.at-nk.tc-exe.ru] has joined #debian |
| 13:33 | <dr|z3d> | Or rather, you're sharing the host server. |
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| 13:33 | <roma> | привет |
| 13:33 | <Abs0luT> | priviet |
| 13:33 | <dr|z3d> | !ru |
| 13:33 | <dpkg> | Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net. |
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| 13:37 | <Abs0luT> | Windows web server the OS for only web hosting purpose ? |
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| 13:40 | <yang> | I have a problem using ZTE HSDPA modem, does anyone have experience with it to make it work ? |
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| 13:42 | <abrotman> | yang: please don't ask both networks |
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| 13:47 | <drakeman> | hey is normal when i put a video in youtube fullscreen, hq, or hd, doesnt run 100% smootly,? i notice some glitches i guess, or very little slowdowns in the videos. |
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| 13:48 | <dr|z3d> | drakeman: That's not unheard of.. what's your pc's spec? |
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| 13:49 | <ml|> | drakeman: problably your pc can't keep up, flash is horrible |
| 13:49 | <drakeman> | dr|z3d, Amd Athlon 64 3500+, 2gb ram, Nvidia Gforce 8400GS, 200GBHDD |
| 13:49 | <ml|> | that should work just fine |
| 13:49 | <yang> | drakeman: full HD requires a fast CPU |
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| 13:50 | <drakeman> | yang, yes, but inside my other os M$ the videos runs great |
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| 13:50 | <drakeman> | when i put a DVD movie into vlc and set to fullscreen it runs smootlhly, pefectly |
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| 13:50 | <drakeman> | and i dont think and youtube video have more queality than a DVD |
| 13:50 | <ml|> | drakeman: using adobe's flash? |
| 13:51 | <drakeman> | ml|, thes, the nonfree plugin |
| 13:51 | <drakeman> | and opera! |
| 13:51 | <dr|z3d> | drakeman: If you download a flashvideo and play it locally, do you still get glitches in fullscreen? |
| 13:51 | <drakeman> | same problem with firefox! |
| 13:51 | <drakeman> | dr|z3d, never try that before. |
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| 13:51 | <dr|z3d> | drakeman: About time you did ;) |
| 13:51 | <ml|> | dr|z3d: thinking some network issue? |
| 13:51 | <drakeman> | dr|z3d, but i can do it, and tell you the results. |
| 13:51 | <drakeman> | mmm i always wait the video loads completely then play |
| 13:52 | <dr|z3d> | ml|: Yeah, probably network congestion. |
| 13:52 | <dr|z3d> | Oh, you wait for the stream to load? Ok. |
| 13:52 | <drakeman> | yes. |
| 13:52 | <drakeman> | and like a said, in my other HDD inside M$ dont have that problem! |
| 13:52 | <dr|z3d> | Flashvideo in the browser is often less than optimal, that much I can tell you. |
| 13:52 | <ml|> | hmm, but ayways flash is horrible |
| 13:53 | <drakeman> | so, for me is not a big deal, or big problem, just askin if that is a normal condition for the adobe plugin, |
| 13:53 | <danger> | Not sure if it's the right place to discuss it, I was just wondering what everyone's reaction to the news Ubuntu will provide more staff to help out with Debian as reported by the Register? |
| 13:53 | <drakeman> | danger, you can discuss in #debian-offtopic :D |
| 13:53 | <dr|z3d> | danger: Not the right place to ask. You want to start a flamewar?! |
| 13:54 | <danger> | Sorry no, was just interested :( |
| 13:54 | <ml|> | I think #debian-offtopic is the place for that |
| 13:54 | <drakeman> | dr|z3d, anyways im going to download the video and wil try it in fullscreen |
| 13:54 | <dr|z3d> | danger: any time you mention ubuntu in here, be prepared for flak. |
| 13:54 | <ml|> | heh |
| 13:55 | <danger> | pfft seems a bit silly but nevermind |
| 13:55 | <ml|> | /j #debian-offtopic others might join |
| 13:55 | <dr|z3d> | Sure, sure.. it probably is, but still. |
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| 13:57 | <drakeman> | well, im going to make the test.. see you guys |
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| 14:04 | <farhad> | hi |
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| 14:05 | <farhad> | on debian sid , i'm trying to enable desktop effects on kde 4.3.0 , but it fails to start , output of glxinfo : http://pastebin.ca/1522096 , nvidia driver : 173.14.20 , what can i do? |
| 14:06 | <Jflesch> | farhad: in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, make sure that you're using the driver "nvidia" and not "nv" |
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| 14:08 | <farhad> | ok , i changed that now, brb |
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| 14:13 | <ga_bash> | hello guys I am using debian lenny and apache server but whenever I am trying to execute the cgi programs it only shows the source code. I have already set the execute permissions |
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| 14:15 | <dr|z3d> | ga_bash: Add cgi support to your apache conf. |
| 14:15 | <dr|z3d> | ga_bash: Plenty of help online that will tell you how to do that. |
| 14:15 | <bja> | ga_bash: do you have the module for your cgi like perl or python? |
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| 14:16 | <farhad> | hi again |
| 14:16 | <farhad> | Jflesch: thx , it is working now , |
| 14:16 | <Jflesch> | farhad: you're welcome |
| 14:17 | <farhad> | but there's another problem now! :D http://imagebin.ca/view/YP3-VGDB.html , system tray icons are gone :P |
| 14:17 | <ga_bash> | dr|z3d, I have configured the /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default and the cgi options are enabled |
| 14:17 | <ga_bash> | bja, yes I have the perl module for the cgi |
| 14:18 | <dr|z3d> | ga_bash: Did you restart Apache thereafter? |
| 14:18 | <Jflesch> | farhad: last time I tried KDE4, it was a little bit buggy on my computer, usually at the next start of KDE4 it was fine |
| 14:18 | <ga_bash> | dr|z3d, oh the default settings were cgi-enabled |
| 14:18 | <Jflesch> | (I mean the systray was a little bit buggy, not the whole KDE4 :) |
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| 14:20 | <dr|z3d> | ga_bash: Running cgi from cgi-bin, or outside of that dir? |
| 14:20 | <ga_bash> | dr|z3d, <Directory "/usr/lib/cgi-bin"> |
| 14:20 | <ga_bash> | AllowOverride None |
| 14:20 | <ga_bash> | Options +ExecCGI -MultiViews +SymLinksIfOwnerMatch |
| 14:20 | <ga_bash> | Order allow,deny |
| 14:20 | <ga_bash> | Allow from all |
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| 14:21 | <ga_bash> | dr|z3d, I put the cgi script into /usr/lib/cgi-bin/ |
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| 14:21 | <ga_bash> | and then called from my browser |
| 14:21 | <farhad> | Jflesch: you know , before installing nvidia driver from repository , i have had installed it in nvidia way , and had this problem that time :P i thought it is from xorg/xserv , so i downgraded them , but now it seems that it is an nvidia bug :P |
| 14:21 | <ga_bash> | dr|z3d, and it shows the source code only... |
| 14:22 | <dr|z3d> | Yeah, sure.. you haven't configured apache correctly. That's the issue. |
| 14:22 | <dr|z3d> | #apache on irc.freenode.net is probably your best bet.. I'm a bit too busy to google on your behalf :) |
| 14:23 | <ga_bash> | dr|z3d, thanks. |
| 14:23 | <ga_bash> | i would check #apache |
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| 14:24 | <southernc> | anyone know why windows lag so bad l;ike when moving them etc ? could this be a xorg problem using ati propriety |
| 14:24 | <tuxcrafter> | hi all how can i get the powerbutton of a system shutdown the machine when it is a server no user loged in no hal running |
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| 14:24 | <dr|z3d> | southernc: Running a compisiting engine there? |
| 14:24 | <tuxcrafter> | how can i map the button to something in inittab? |
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| 14:25 | <southernc> | you mean do i have composite enabled ? |
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| 14:25 | <dr|z3d> | Yes. Is your desktop compositor-enabled? |
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| 14:25 | <dr|z3d> | Be it Compiz or a DE's compositor. |
| 14:26 | <southernc> | i using default kde and in xorg composite is disabled cause if i enable it i have no title bars on windows |
| 14:26 | <southernc> | its definately not a hardware issue |
| 14:26 | <dr|z3d> | Right, well, you'd need to reload your window manager for that. |
| 14:26 | <dr|z3d> | (Loss of window furniture). |
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| 14:26 | <southernc> | i have |
| 14:26 | <dr|z3d> | As for lag, blame your drivers, I guess. |
| 14:26 | <southernc> | hmm |
| 14:27 | <dr|z3d> | You might also try a lighter DE, see if that helps. |
| 14:27 | <dr|z3d> | Xfce I recommend. |
| 14:28 | <southernc> | i dont think thats the problem as im using a hd4850 a quadcore Q660 6 gigs of ddr3 ram |
| 14:28 | <danger> | Your using DDRIII wih a Q6600? |
| 14:28 | <dr|z3d> | Hmm. Possibly not, then. In which case, drivers, drivers, drivers! |
| 14:28 | <southernc> | yeaup |
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| 14:29 | <southernc> | ddr3 1600 |
| 14:29 | <dr|z3d> | There might be some xorg tweaks you can pull off to make things faster.. google around. |
| 14:30 | <southernc> | mm yea ive looked doesnt seem to be much up to date info |
| 14:30 | <southernc> | maybe ill try the opensource one and see how well that works |
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| 14:30 | <southernc> | it worked completely the opposite before i upgraded |
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| 14:38 | <salmin> | Hello! |
| 14:38 | <salmin> | anybody alive? |
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| 14:40 | <petemc> | !ask |
| 14:40 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 14:40 | <salmin> | ok |
| 14:40 | <salmin> | i'm just kind of looking for an advice |
| 14:41 | <salmin> | copy paste is broken on my sid system |
| 14:41 | <salmin> | it isn't connected to any specific application or window-manager or deskop environment |
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| 14:41 | <salmin> | thus I don't know where to report it |
| 14:41 | <salmin> | i can copy-paste inside one application |
| 14:42 | <salmin> | even for instance between different konsole windows |
| 14:42 | <salmin> | but when i try to copy something in one application and paste it in another it fails |
| 14:42 | <salmin> | is it an Xorg bug or what& |
| 14:42 | <salmin> | _? |
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| 14:42 | <salmin> | looks wierd to me |
| 14:43 | <salmin> | _weird |
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| 14:43 | <Hideo> | salmin: try hilighting/selecting the text in one application, go to the other application, press shift+insert or middle mouse button |
| 14:43 | <salmin> | that doesn't work |
| 14:43 | <salmin> | i'm using linux for five years |
| 14:43 | <wekt> | salmin: could you very well not run sid? |
| 14:44 | <salmin> | actually i like |
| 14:44 | <wekt> | salmin: tried it in testing? |
| 14:44 | <salmin> | _lke it |
| 14:44 | <Hideo> | salmin: oh, nvm then |
| 14:44 | <salmin> | actually not |
| 14:44 | <salmin> | i mean |
| 14:44 | <salmin> | it's ok for me to encouter bug |
| 14:44 | <salmin> | sometimes i even fix them |
| 14:44 | <wekt> | salmin: you can try running klipper |
| 14:45 | <salmin> | but broken copy-paste - i'm kind of surprised |
| 14:45 | <Hideo> | salmin: I run sid too, although I don't use kde, and copy+paste works fine |
| 14:45 | <Hideo> | have you tried it with another wm |
| 14:46 | <Hideo> | just to see if it works? |
| 14:46 | <salmin> | i tried it with twm |
| 14:46 | <Hideo> | no go either? |
| 14:46 | <salmin> | yep |
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| 14:47 | <salmin> | wow |
| 14:47 | <salmin> | wait |
| 14:47 | <salmin> | i see now |
| 14:47 | <Hideo> | it works? |
| 14:47 | <salmin> | it doesn't work when i try to copy from kde-application |
| 14:47 | <salmin> | i can copy from iceweasel to konsole but not backwards |
| 14:48 | <salmin> | same with dolphin |
| 14:48 | <salmin> | and any other kde-application |
| 14:48 | <Hideo> | so it's kde-related? |
| 14:48 | <salmin> | it seems that way now |
| 14:49 | <Hideo> | then how come it didn't work with twm? |
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| 14:49 | <salmin> | i mean |
| 14:49 | <Hideo> | or just kde apps |
| 14:49 | <salmin> | it's related to applications from kde, not to window-managet itself |
| 14:49 | <salmin> | _manager |
| 14:49 | <Hideo> | ah I see |
| 14:50 | <salmin> | i think i'll try to report it to kde maintainers |
| 14:50 | <salmin> | it's good to explain something - you can understand it yourself :) |
| 14:50 | <Hideo> | yeah, :) |
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| 14:55 | <salmin> | LOL! |
| 14:55 | <salmin> | my "reportbug" |
| 14:55 | <salmin> | is broken! |
| 14:55 | <salmin> | how should i report THAT bug :))) |
| 14:56 | <Hideo> | reportbug-ng |
| 14:56 | <Hideo> | or just old fashion email :P |
| 14:56 | <abrotman> | or reportbug ? |
| 14:56 | <Hideo> | which is broken? |
| 14:57 | <salmin> | i know actually, i'm just kind of amazed |
| 14:57 | <salmin> | not lucky today |
| 14:57 | <salmin> | ia32-libs are broken |
| 14:58 | <salmin> | wine and flashplayer-mozilla are broken as well since they are 32bit |
| 14:58 | <salmin> | copy-paste (for god's sake, COPY-PASTE) is broken |
| 14:58 | <salmin> | and now it is reportbug |
| 14:58 | <salmin> | what's next? :) |
| 14:59 | <abrotman> | there is a 64bit flash |
| 14:59 | <salmin> | from adobe, right |
| 14:59 | <salmin> | iceweasel crashes when i open gmail |
| 14:59 | <salmin> | with this plugin |
| 15:00 | <salmin> | it reminds me a story about a good friend of mine, a freebsd developer |
| 15:00 | <salmin> | he was so unpleased with freebsd 7 |
| 15:00 | <salmin> | that got a depression |
| 15:00 | <salmin> | and started to think about moving to windows :) |
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| 15:06 | <oznt> | hi everyone, can someone help me pindown a problem with passwordless ssh ? I have many users inside a VPN which have no problem with it, but for some reason I can't do it for a particular user. I can't really pin it down, maybe someone with fresh thought can help me ? |
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| 15:20 | <amitav> | I burnt the minimal install iso to a cd. while booting from it, no OS found message appeared |
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| 15:27 | <tuxcrafter> | does somebody knows how to make a persistent ssh |
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| 15:29 | <ml|> | tuxcrafter: use screen with ssh-agent $SHELL ssh-add |
| 15:29 | <amitav> | I burnt the minimal install iso to a cd. while booting from it, no OS found message appeared |
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| 15:35 | <mikekn> | hello, i just installed Lenny, but on booting it up, i get a localhost login shell, and no GUI comes up |
| 15:35 | <mikekn> | I had selected the Desktop option too while installing |
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| 15:36 | <mikekn> | tried both startx and gnome-seesion from the console,but get command not found |
| 15:36 | <mikekn> | any way around this strange issue ? |
| 15:39 | <salmin> | what "dpkg -l '*xorg*" is saying? |
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| 15:40 | <mikekn> | salmin: ill try that right and get back |
| 15:40 | <salmin> | ckech also for xinit package |
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| 15:40 | <mikekn> | ok |
| 15:41 | <salmin> | and gnome or whatever you looking for |
| 15:41 | <mikekn> | yeah..alright |
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| 15:45 | <mason_> | if i wanted to get to a remote computer on the same network with the same ip how is that possible? |
| 15:46 | <mason_> | i tried and could not connect. |
| 15:46 | <salmin> | what do you mean "with the same ip"? |
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| 15:47 | <mason_> | like i have a house with 3 computers all using linux except my laptop. |
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| 15:47 | <mason_> | how would i remote connect the other computer in the other room. |
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| 15:47 | <mikekn> | salmin: dpkg -l *xorg* says no package found |
| 15:48 | <salmin> | mikekn, seems that graphical system is not installed |
| 15:48 | <mikekn> | ok...but when i did aptitude search for xinit,xorg and gnome, i get following |
| 15:48 | <mikekn> | piA xinit , pi xorg,pi gnome |
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| 15:49 | <stroyan> | mason_: Only one computer on a network should have a particular IP address. How did you try to connect? samba? ssh? http? |
| 15:49 | <mikekn> | salmin: correct me if im wrong but i think that 'i' there means those packages are installed, correct ? |
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| 15:50 | <salmin> | 'ii' means that they are installed |
| 15:50 | <mikekn> | salmin: ok |
| 15:50 | <mason_> | stroyan, through remote desktop viewer in the applications tab. |
| 15:50 | <simonrvn> | *cough* dpkg -l | head -n 5 |
| 15:50 | <mikekn> | salmin: i installed from CD1 of Lenny, and during installation i had the Desktop option selected |
| 15:51 | <mason_> | stroyan, Well also i want to know how to connect to my windows computer through ssh to get into the command prompt. |
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| 15:51 | <stroyan> | mikekn: You could try "/etc/init.d/gdm restart" as root. |
| 15:51 | <mikekn> | stroyan: k..will try that |
| 15:52 | <stroyan> | mason_: You have at least three challenges to overcome. ;-) You need to find the IP address of the computers. You probably still need to install the openssh-server package on linux. You need an ssh client on windows like putty. |
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| 15:53 | <stroyan> | mason_: You can get putty from http://www.putty.org/ |
| 15:53 | <mason_> | stroyan, i have putty on my laptop |
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| 15:53 | <zztopd> | hello. i use synaptic to install packages and i've got a message from synaptic "some packages are removed". I have to keep that packages. But how to resolve on which the new packages those dependences are run? |
| 15:54 | <stroyan> | mason_: Do your computers all use DHCP from a router? |
| 15:54 | <mason_> | storyan, if you mean all use the same router yes. They all have the same IP's so im thinking i will need to know the port there connected too. |
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| 15:55 | <bike> | pci bus error, status=d8a8 pci status=0290 |
| 15:55 | <bike> | anybody know how to diag such an error? |
| 15:55 | <bike> | probably a hw fault but |
| 15:55 | <stroyan> | mason_: I sincerely doubt that the computers all have the same IP address. Much would be broken. |
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| 15:56 | <mason_> | stroyan, you are right i might have to double check but they all go threw the same router. |
| 15:56 | <bike> | the entire pci bus crashes infact |
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| 15:56 | <salmin> | mason_, router, right. is it doing some Network Address Translation? |
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| 15:56 | <stroyan> | mason_: Routers typically assign each client a different 10.0.0.* or 192.168.*.* address. Those are then mapped by NAT network address translation for outbound connections to the internet. |
| 15:57 | <shah16> | hi, any way to install skype on my amd64 arch without compromising/changing arch to 32 bit? |
| 15:57 | <stroyan> | mason_: You can see the IP address or "inet addr" of each interface on each linux system using /sbin/ifconfig. |
| 15:58 | <mason_> | stroyan, the second thing you said is what it does :) |
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| 15:58 | <mikekn> | stroyan: /etc/init.d/gdm restart says 'No such file or directory' |
| 15:58 | <mikekn> | which packages i need to install to get the GUI ? |
| 15:58 | <salmin> | simpliest way is to install xorg and gnome meta-packages |
| 15:59 | <southernc> | apt-get install fgdm |
| 15:59 | <southernc> | gdm* |
| 15:59 | <mikekn> | just the gdm, right ? |
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| 15:59 | <southernc> | gdm = gnome desktop manager |
| 15:59 | <stroyan> | mason_: Those are unrouteable address ranges. They only make sense within a single LAN. |
| 15:59 | <mikekn> | southernc: ok |
| 15:59 | <southernc> | that just basically starts a window manager |
| 15:59 | <mikekn> | southernc: alright |
| 16:00 | <southernc> | then you need a window manager of your choice |
| 16:00 | <stroyan> | mikekn: You will probably want all the dependencies that you get from installing "gnome-desktop-environment". Start with that and save some steps. |
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| 16:00 | <shah16> | southernc: hi, any way to install skype on my amd64 arch without compromising/changing arch to 32 bit? |
| 16:00 | <southernc> | uh yea |
| 16:01 | <shah16> | :) |
| 16:01 | <mason_> | stroyan, ok forget about the rmeote desktop how do i connect to the laptops command prompt? |
| 16:01 | <southernc> | what version of debian ? |
| 16:01 | <mikekn> | stroyan,southernc ok ill give that a shot |
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| 16:01 | <shah16> | southernc debian 5.0.2 lenny |
| 16:02 | <southernc> | your still gonna need xserver-xorg-core and gnome-core or kde-core kde-base etc |
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| 16:02 | <salmin> | southernc, too late :) |
| 16:02 | <stroyan> | mason_: First check that the debian systems have the openssh-server package installed. "dpkg -l openssh-server". |
| 16:02 | <stroyan> | mason_: Or just jump to "apt-get install openssh-server" and it will tell you if you already have it. |
| 16:03 | <southernc> | http://skype.com/download/skype/linux/choose/ << download and compile |
| 16:03 | <southernc> | or |
| 16:03 | <mason_> | stroyan, it says i ca install but it says insert the debian disk? |
| 16:04 | <southernc> | install ia32libs and dpkg -i --force-architecture |
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| 16:04 | <shah16> | southernic: i've downloaded http://skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb |
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| 16:04 | <mason_> | stroyan, what does that mean? |
| 16:05 | <shah16> | southernc * |
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| 16:05 | <stroyan> | mason_: It seems that your system was installed from a disk with no network sources defined. You could add http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ to the /etc/apt/sources.list config file. |
| 16:05 | <shah16> | southernc if i install ia32libs will that change my arch?? thats what i dont wish to appen |
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| 16:06 | <azeem_> | mason_: /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 16:06 | <mason_> | stroyan, nevermind i used the disk now its installed. Now what? |
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| 16:06 | <stroyan> | mason_: Now use /sbin/ifconfig to determine the "inet addr" for the system. |
| 16:07 | <mason_> | on the laptop? |
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| 16:07 | <stroyan> | mason_: A router may give a different IP address when the same client asks again. The address could even change while the client is running. But they typically remain the same 'forever'. |
| 16:08 | <stroyan> | mason_: You need to know the address of the remote system that you are trying to reach. ssh already knows the address or the system it is running on. ;-) |
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| 16:09 | <amitav> | I am having trouble with the minimal install iso. need assistance |
| 16:09 | <mason_> | okay its a 192.168...... |
| 16:10 | <stroyan> | mason_: Then on the other system you connect to 192.168.... . You may also need to specify the user name if you don't have the same account name on both systems. |
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| 16:10 | <shah16> | can anyone plz confirm this: if i install ia32libs(http://packages.debian.org/lenny/ia32-libs) will this effect other programs already installed (which are built for 64 bit) |
| 16:11 | <stroyan> | shah16: It won't make any trouble for 64 bit applications. |
| 16:11 | <mason_> | so wait i connect to my linux using putty? |
| 16:11 | <shah16> | stroyan: thank you :) amitav: tell me where are u facing problem |
| 16:12 | <amitav> | well I burnt the iso. while booting, it tells me no OS found |
| 16:12 | <amitav> | I tried with USB, I am getting stuck at a cursor and no improvement |
| 16:13 | <mason_> | stroyan, do i connect to this computer using putty? |
| 16:13 | <stroyan> | mason_: Yes. You can either use putty from a windows laptop to linux or "ssh username@192.168.0.2" from another linux system. |
| 16:13 | <shah16> | amitav: do u have any other operating systems? |
| 16:14 | <amitav> | I am currently on an opensuse 11.1 and there is a gentoo on another laptop too |
| 16:14 | <mason_> | stroyan, now also how do i manage my windows laptop form the linux computer or if i have windows xp at work how do i connect to it from my home? |
| 16:15 | <stroyan> | mason_: work system usually have some firewall with details that the 'IT department' needs to describe. (At least all should.) |
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| 16:17 | <stroyan> | mason_: You can connect from a linux system to a windows system using RDP remote desktop, or VNC, or ssh to a cygwin installation on the windows box. |
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| 16:19 | <mason_> | stroyan, how do i connect to my other linux system using this linux system? |
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| 16:21 | <stroyan> | mason_: You use "ssh username@192.168.0.2" with your username and the target system's IP address. |
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| 16:21 | <mason_> | i did that nothing happened |
| 16:21 | <mason_> | and also with putty it timed out |
| 16:21 | <xeon-enouf> | add -vvv |
| 16:22 | <stroyan> | mason_: You may have not successfully installed and started the openssh-server on the target system. Or a iptables config could be preventing the connection. |
| 16:23 | <mason_> | how to fix this? |
| 16:23 | <stroyan> | mason_: You should be able to see the sshd process on a system that is set up for receiving ssh. Check if "pgrep -l sshd" shows any processes. |
| 16:24 | <xeon-enouf> | stroyan: hiya stroyan - remember you told me about x11vnc to connect/view remote Desktops? I'm having my own issues with _just_ ssh'ing in (not even with -X), from pc2 to pc1 - i had always just doen pc1->pc2 |
| 16:24 | <mason_> | type that in the terminal? |
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| 16:24 | <stroyan> | mason_: Yes. |
| 16:24 | <stroyan> | xeon-enouf: What issues? |
| 16:25 | <xeon-enouf> | stroyan: haven't even tried x11vnc, though it's installed, i wanted to read more about it - and that tutorial you posted helps... |
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| 16:26 | <xeon-enouf> | stroyan: well - unfortunately IRL ones atm, so ... it's (the ssh ones) too complicated - and i got good help here from others - just now getting ready to dig deeper (but busy atm), thanks |
| 16:26 | <mason_> | the recieveing system says 3711 sshd |
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| 16:27 | <xeon-enouf> | also, i lost my cell phone today - OH FUN! |
| 16:27 | <stroyan> | mason_: Here is another command to try- "sudo /sbin/iptables -L" That should have 3 "policy ACCEPT" lines. |
| 16:27 | <evan> | anyone know how to get sound working through headphones? |
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| 16:28 | <mason_> | stroyan, now abunch of lines are popping up. |
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| 16:29 | <stroyan> | mason_: You can use http://paste.debian.net/ to paste the lines into and create a URL to tell about here. |
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| 16:32 | <mason_> | storyan, http://paste.debian.net/43688/ |
| 16:32 | <shah16> | evan: spekaer-test -t wav -c2 |
| 16:32 | <stroyan> | mason_: Some routers have configuration dialogs that allow you to set specific IP addresses to hand out to specific computers based on their MAC addresses. That would help with always finding the right address for a system. |
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| 16:33 | <mason_> | i know the ipaddress to the computer i want to use |
| 16:33 | <mason_> | just dont know how to connect |
| 16:33 | <southernc> | ... |
| 16:33 | <southernc> | what are you tring to connect to ? |
| 16:34 | <stroyan> | mason_: Wow. That is a complicate iptables config. I wonder how that was set up. |
| 16:34 | <southernc> | ftp , ssh , telnet , smtp , pop3 , |
| 16:34 | <mason_> | stroyan, dont ask me haha |
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| 16:35 | <tuxcrafter> | ml|: i never heart of that method do you have an example? sh-agent $SHELL ssh-add ? |
| 16:35 | <tuxcrafter> | /heart/heard" |
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| 16:36 | <Squelos> | hi all |
| 16:36 | <Squelos> | i got problems with my internet on my lenny. |
| 16:36 | <Squelos> | I did an aptitude upgrade |
| 16:37 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 397] by debhelper |
| 16:37 | <Squelos> | and then rebooted |
| 16:37 | <Squelos> | and when i rebooted, the internet connection had gone. |
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| 16:38 | <Squelos> | and i cant get to configure it. |
| 16:38 | <Squelos> | could it be iptables ? |
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| 16:38 | <Squelos> | knowing that i have an ethernet connection, and that my router is set on DHCP mod |
| 16:38 | <Squelos> | mode |
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| 16:41 | <southernc> | Squelos: what does ifconfig say ? |
| 16:41 | <southernc> | ifconfig -a |
| 16:41 | <ml|> | tuxcrafter: ok, start a screen session, then do ssh-agent $SHELL then ssh-add it will ask for a password enter it, now when you do any ssh commands you won't need type in your password again, until you terminate that screen session, understand now? |
| 16:41 | <simonrvn> | i don't know, i can't read it from here |
| 16:42 | <southernc> | ml sudo -i lol |
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| 16:42 | <amitav> | while copying fils from iso to USB symlinks are not created. will that be of trouble? |
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| 16:43 | <ml|> | southernc: what the heck are you rambling about? ;) |
| 16:43 | * | simonrvn wonders if 'lol' is the new '!' |
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| 16:43 | <stroyan> | mason_: That iptables setting looks like the result of some complicated firewall management tool. I hesitate to attempt any changes without knowing what tool that is. |
| 16:43 | <southernc> | haha no idea |
| 16:43 | <mason_> | storyan, its probably firestarter |
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| 16:43 | <ml|> | !lart southernc |
| 16:43 | * | dpkg whips out a sword and chops southernc in half |
| 16:43 | <southernc> | ml lxde is pretty nice :) |
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| 16:44 | <southernc> | ouch! |
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| 16:44 | <ml|> | southernc: yeah you like it? |
| 16:44 | <ml|> | southernc: i'm used too and love xmonad! :) |
| 16:44 | <barth> | hello |
| 16:45 | <southernc> | xmonad.. |
| 16:45 | <ml|> | dpkg: tell southernc about xmonad |
| 16:45 | * | simonrvn doesn't grok tiling wms |
| 16:45 | <barth> | my 5.02 fresh install does not recognize my dvd drive |
| 16:46 | <southernc> | well kde was being a royal $#@! no matter what drivers i used it lagged like a bitch windows and such so now that ive switched to this nop more problems |
| 16:46 | <shah16> | <southernc> http://skype.com/download/skype/linux/choose/ << download and compile [or]<southernc> install ia32libs and dpkg -i --force-architecture which is the best and safest way? im almost ready to --force-architecture now |
| 16:46 | <barth> | the kernel doesn't seem to detect the dvd drive (NEC ND-3500AG) |
| 16:46 | <ml|> | southernc: good for you :) |
| 16:46 | <ml|> | glad to hear it |
| 16:46 | <southernc> | shah16: downloading and compil;ing |
| 16:47 | <ml|> | tuxcrafter: get it? |
| 16:47 | <barth> | but it's detected by the bios |
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| 16:47 | <southernc> | but on the other hand you wont be able to update it with apt-get or whatever unless you kpkg |
| 16:47 | <locklace> | barth: paste the output of "cat /proc/scsi/scsi" and "dmesg" and "lspci -nn" at http://paste.debian.net |
| 16:48 | <southernc> | youll have to manually update it when you want o update it etc so itsd abou 50 50 |
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| 16:49 | <southernc> | ml|: dpkg told me nothing lol |
| 16:49 | <Squelos_> | southernc sorry storms around here. |
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| 16:49 | <southernc> | shah16: downloading and compil;ing |
| 16:49 | <Squelos_> | hum, ifconfig doesnt say much really. |
| 16:49 | <Squelos_> | I was working fine before the upgrade :/ |
| 16:49 | <southernc> | woops wrong person |
| 16:50 | <shah16> | Squelos_ ifconfig -a as root |
| 16:50 | <southernc> | Squelos what do you mean you cant ifconfig -a ? |
| 16:50 | <Squelos_> | no i can. |
| 16:50 | <stroyan> | mason_: If you were already configuring with firestarter, then you could run it again to allow ssh connections. Go to the policy page and click on the "Allow service" box then the "Add Rule" button. |
| 16:50 | <southernc> | well whats it say |
| 16:50 | <Squelos_> | but i dont see anything really interesting. What am i looking for ? |
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| 16:50 | <Squelos> | well, i got my physical adress, and inet adress |
| 16:50 | <barth> | locklace: http://paste.debian.net/43689 |
| 16:51 | <Squelos> | bcast, masc, multicast broadcast |
| 16:51 | <southernc> | is any of them assing you a ip ? like eth0 192.168.1.100 etc if you have a router or eth1 |
| 16:51 | <southernc> | assinging* |
| 16:51 | <shah16> | lol |
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| 16:52 | <southernc> | Squelos pastebin me the output of ifconfig -a and /etc/network/interfaces |
| 16:52 | <ml|> | southernc: are you sure ... 16:45:17 <dpkg> told southernc about xmonad |
| 16:52 | <Squelos> | uh, the internet isnt working on it :/ |
| 16:52 | <Squelos> | how can i paste it :/ |
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| 16:53 | <ml|> | !pastebin |
| 16:53 | <dpkg> | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Just use pastebinit (package) if you cannot cut & paste. |
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| 16:53 | <Squelos> | allow hotplug eth0 iface ethà inet dhcp in the interface |
| 16:53 | <southernc> | ZzZZZz |
| 16:54 | <ml|> | southernc: if not then msg dpkg yourself |
| 16:54 | <southernc> | stupid screens |
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| 16:54 | <ml|> | southernc: see it now? |
| 16:54 | <locklace> | barth: you missed dmesg. how is the drive attached, via the sata controller? |
| 16:54 | <southernc> | no it did forgot it was sent to different window |
| 16:54 | <mason_> | storyan, okay what do i use for the name port and ip? |
| 16:54 | <tuxcrafter> | ml|: hmm my question had nothing to do with passwords or agents i use auto certificats, the issue is that if-up form ppp calls the ssh command but there is no real internet connection yet ssh needs to keep trying for several times so it can connects when ppp has done its job |
| 16:54 | <ml|> | !lart southernc |
| 16:54 | * | dpkg strangles southernc with a doohicky mouse cord |
| 16:55 | <southernc> | god im getting beaten up from you today... |
| 16:55 | <southernc> | hajha |
| 16:55 | <southernc> | Squelos: and ifconfig assings you a ipadress you what eth0 eth1 etha ? |
| 16:55 | <stroyan> | mason_: The name is "SSH". It will fill in the port. The source and be "Anyone", as long as you trust your local LAN systems. |
| 16:55 | <southernc> | on what* |
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| 16:56 | <southernc> | Trust noone! |
| 16:56 | <ml|> | tuxcrafter: thought that is what you ment by ... < tuxcrafter> does somebody knows how to make a persistent ssh |
| 16:56 | * | southernc sings X-files theme song |
| 16:56 | <Squelos> | ive got a lo and a eth0 |
| 16:57 | <Squelos> | the lo seems to be assigning me 127.0.0.1 |
| 16:57 | <southernc> | Squelos of then thats your problem |
| 16:57 | <mason_> | storyan, should the port be 22? |
| 16:57 | <southernc> | ok* |
| 16:57 | <mason_> | it doesnt fill automatically |
| 16:57 | <stroyan> | mason_: Yes |
| 16:57 | <mason_> | storyan, it still gives me connection timed out |
| 16:57 | <southernc> | Squelos: in /etc/network/interfaces change etha to eth0 |
| 16:57 | <Squelos> | but why was it working before the upgrade and not now :( |
| 16:57 | <Squelos> | and dont have an etha |
| 16:57 | <mason_> | storyan, nvm i got it thanks |
| 16:58 | <Squelos> | i just got a lo and eth0 |
| 16:58 | <stroyan> | mason_: If the change applied successfully you should see a change in the iptables output adding explicit handling of port 22. |
| 16:58 | <southernc> | allow hotplug eth0 iface ethà inet dhcp in the interface |
| 16:58 | <Squelos> | ok |
| 16:58 | <southernc> | your lying to me |
| 16:58 | <Squelos> | i add that it ? |
| 16:58 | <southernc> | lol |
| 16:58 | <southernc> | no thats what you said you had |
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| 16:59 | <Squelos> | the ethà is actually eth0 sorry |
| 16:59 | <southernc> | ZzzZZz |
| 16:59 | <mason_> | storyan, how do i open things and download things through putty so it shows ont he desktop? |
| 16:59 | <barth> | locklace: sorry http://paste.debian.net/43690/ |
| 16:59 | <stroyan> | mason_: I am not a user of putty. |
| 17:00 | <southernc> | ok go to http://paste.debian.net paste you /etc/network/interfaces and ifconfig -a output |
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| 17:00 | <barth> | locklace : the drive is attached on the motherboard's ide1 connector |
| 17:00 | <Squelos> | southernc, how can i do that if i dont have the internet on my other computer :/ |
| 17:01 | <Squelos> | and could it have anything to do with lib6c or something like that ? |
| 17:01 | <southernc> | no |
| 17:01 | <southernc> | Squelos: in console on the non-working machine type ping google.com |
| 17:01 | <shah16> | Squelos are u on dual boot? |
| 17:01 | <southernc> | if he is im going to smack him |
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| 17:02 | <southernc> | for not having atleast 4 computers :) |
| 17:02 | <Squelos> | no just grub |
| 17:02 | <southernc> | lol |
| 17:02 | <Squelos> | no more windows since i installed debian |
| 17:02 | <shah16> | then mount the debian drive |
| 17:02 | <locklace> | barth: first suggestion, go to http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=linux-image-2.6.30&searchon=names§ion=all&suite=lenny-backports and download the appropriate package for your arch, install it with dpkg -i, and reboot. see if that makes a difference |
| 17:03 | <shah16> | and copy /etc/network/interfaces |
| 17:03 | <shah16> | Squelos ^^ |
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| 17:03 | <Squelos> | ? mount the debian drive ? debian is running on it |
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| 17:03 | <barth> | locklace, OK i'm going to try this thanks & see you later |
| 17:03 | <amitav> | shah16: did you check? |
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| 17:04 | <Squelos> | ping google.com => unknown host |
| 17:04 | <southernc> | kk |
| 17:04 | <mason_> | storyan, i simply need to know run commands from debian its the samething. |
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| 17:04 | <Squelos> | the eth0 doesnt seem to be assigning me any ip |
| 17:04 | <Squelos> | i think thats the problem. |
| 17:04 | <southernc> | Squelos: when you do ifconfig -a whats it say for ipadress under eth0 |
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| 17:06 | <southernc> | inetaddrs |
| 17:06 | <Squelos> | i only got hardware adresses in ifconfig :/ |
| 17:06 | <stroyan> | mason_: It is not clear to me which desktop you want things to show on, debian or windows? And what do you mean by "open" and "download"? Are you getting files from http or ftp? |
| 17:06 | <southernc> | ok then yea its not assinging you a ip |
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| 17:06 | <Squelos> | no ip adress in there :/ |
| 17:06 | <southernc> | otherwise it would look like this |
| 17:06 | <southernc> | eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:04:4b:17:ae:0f inet addr:192.168.1.101 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 |
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| 17:06 | <mason_> | storyan, debian and http |
| 17:06 | <southernc> | except eth0 not eth1 |
| 17:07 | <Squelos> | btw im french. But there is no one able to help me on the french chan. |
| 17:07 | <southernc> | your french!!!! |
| 17:07 | <Squelos> | yeah, its not assigning me an ip. thats the problem i think |
| 17:07 | <Squelos> | yeah |
| 17:07 | * | southernc walks away |
| 17:07 | <Squelos> | well half actually |
| 17:07 | <southernc> | whats the other half ?? |
| 17:07 | <stroyan> | mason_: At a shell prompt you could use "cd ~/Desktop; wget http://some.com/somefile" to get some file. |
| 17:07 | <Squelos> | american |
| 17:07 | <southernc> | you live in canada ? |
| 17:08 | <Squelos> | non in france |
| 17:08 | <Squelos> | no i mean |
| 17:08 | <southernc> | well moving forward |
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| 17:08 | <Squelos> | why ? |
| 17:08 | <southernc> | what kind of router do you have ? |
| 17:08 | <Squelos> | neufbox |
| 17:08 | <Squelos> | are u french too ? |
| 17:08 | <southernc> | pfft no! |
| 17:08 | <southernc> | : |
| 17:08 | <Squelos> | its ip should be 192.168.0.1 |
| 17:08 | <southernc> | :) |
| 17:09 | <Squelos> | but it says : access denied when i try it ... |
| 17:09 | <southernc> | ok well ive never heard of that router |
| 17:09 | <Squelos> | its the french stuff :) |
| 17:09 | <Squelos> | its a modem actually |
| 17:09 | <Squelos> | that also does router |
| 17:09 | <southernc> | but what im wondering is if your router is configured prorerly and its only allowing to delegate one ip and not two |
| 17:09 | <Squelos> | i tried a dhclient, but nothing to do |
| 17:10 | <southernc> | so to test it |
| 17:10 | <southernc> | heres what your going to do |
| 17:10 | <Squelos> | hum, well it worked with the 2 computers during 2 days (with me on linux) and has been working with 2 windows for a few months |
| 17:10 | <southernc> | shutdown the computer your talking to us from right now and then reboot the debian one keep the windows one off and see if you get an ip |
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| 17:11 | <southernc> | right but im running out of ideas |
| 17:11 | <southernc> | and atleast this way we could rule out the router/modem french comboulation |
| 17:11 | <Squelos> | ok. well ill try it. but my router is properly configured southernc. Im nearly sure about it. |
| 17:12 | <mason_> | storyan, Now how do i open what i download |
| 17:12 | <southernc> | say la vei |
| 17:12 | <Squelos> | ill still try it. brb once this windows reboots ... |
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| 17:12 | <southernc> | leave windows computer A off until after B is up and running and have seen if you have connectivity |
| 17:13 | <southernc> | ZzZzZ |
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| 17:13 | <southernc> | hey craig got lxde running it works great |
| 17:13 | <southernc> | :) |
| 17:13 | <craigevil> | southernc: nice |
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| 17:14 | <southernc> | for whatever reason they have no lxshortcuts for amd64 though so cant install lxde just the base and the other ones |
| 17:14 | <southernc> | lxshortcut* |
| 17:14 | <barth> | locklace, the drive seems to be not detected with 2.6.30 |
| 17:14 | <craigevil> | lxshortvut is pretty much useless anyway, its just as easy to edit the menu.xml |
| 17:15 | <southernc> | yea but lxde depends on it :) |
| 17:15 | <craigevil> | yes, i dont have the "lxde" meta installed i hat metas |
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| 17:15 | <craigevil> | hate* |
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| 17:15 | <Squelos> | southernc, fuck me pink |
| 17:15 | <southernc> | ! |
| 17:15 | <southernc> | if you were a hot chick i might consider it |
| 17:16 | <Squelos> | im a dude |
| 17:16 | <southernc> | Squelos: whats the verdict ? |
| 17:16 | <southernc> | then im gonna have to decline your offer |
| 17:16 | <Squelos> | but you can fuck me in the ass if you want, because its working |
| 17:16 | <southernc> | ha |
| 17:16 | <southernc> | told ya |
| 17:16 | <Squelos> | gotta check now if the windows is connected |
| 17:16 | <barth> | locklace, by the way I was not able to install lenny with this drive -> I had to use a DVDRW USB drive |
| 17:16 | <southernc> | Squelos |
| 17:16 | <Squelos> | southernc |
| 17:16 | <southernc> | hers your problem |
| 17:16 | <Squelos> | im a idiot |
| 17:17 | <Squelos> | no, im an idiot. |
| 17:17 | <southernc> | its trying to assign the same ip to bolth boxes |
| 17:17 | <Squelos> | Theres a fucking laptop connected to the internet behind me ... |
| 17:17 | <craigevil> | dnsmasq |
| 17:17 | <Squelos> | i know ... Because i can only allow 2 different adresses ... |
| 17:17 | <southernc> | so either setup a static ip in /etc/network/interfaces or throw the one with windows in the garbage :) |
| 17:17 | <Squelos> | and 3 computers are connected at the moment. |
| 17:17 | <southernc> | ahh ok io getcha |
| 17:18 | <Squelos> | what a fucking jerk i am |
| 17:18 | <southernc> | well thats some pretty gay shit if your only allowed to assing 2 ips lol |
| 17:18 | <craigevil> | only 2 ips wow that sucks, my crappy att dsl router allows up to 10 pcs to be connected |
| 17:18 | <southernc> | cisco allows 40! |
| 17:19 | <Squelos> | no other problem people. i need to install drivers :D Fglrx drivers ... |
| 17:19 | <southernc> | GOOD LUCK WITH THAT |
| 17:20 | * | southernc hides |
| 17:20 | <Squelos> | that actually is my real problem with my debian and my 4870x2 |
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| 17:20 | <southernc> | to be honest its a waste of money on linux |
| 17:20 | <Squelos> | i had no problems at all with my nvidia card ... |
| 17:21 | <southernc> | cause ati is having financial issues and there drivers suck |
| 17:21 | <kaito> | speaking of nvidia i am having troble installing the driver |
| 17:21 | <craigevil> | !nvidia |
| 17:21 | <dpkg> | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
| 17:21 | <Squelos> | yeah, well ill reinstall a windows 7 after i get this debian working. i need it for september :/ |
| 17:21 | <Squelos> | !ati |
| 17:21 | <dpkg> | To use an ATI graphics card with Debian, ask me about <fglrx>, <radeon> and <radeonhd>. See also <radeon vs radeonhd>. Installing proprietary drivers from amd.com (i.e. with the ATI Driver Installer) is not supported in #debian, please go to #ati (irc.freenode.net). |
| 17:21 | <Squelos> | !radeonhd |
| 17:21 | <dpkg> | rumour has it, radeonhd is the AMD/ATI <FOSS> display driver for the Radeon r5xx and r6xx family of chipsets (r7xx since 1.2.2). Packaged for Debian as 'xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd' from Lenny. For other ATI chipsets, use the 'ati' xorg driver or ask me about <radeon>, <fglrx>. http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeonhd #radeonhd on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 17:22 | <Squelos> | !fglrx |
| 17:22 | <dpkg> | hmm... fglrx is "FireGL and Radeon for X", the AMD/ATI proprietary display driver. To install, ask me about <fglrx one-liner> or follow the instructions at http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary . As of fglrx-driver 1:9-4-1, no chipsets prior to the r600 series are supported; ask me about <radeon> or <radeonhd> instead. #ati on irc.freenode.net. |
| 17:22 | <Squelos> | i never had any problems with nvidia on linux |
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| 17:23 | <southernc> | thats cause your french |
| 17:24 | <Squelos> | probably :D |
| 17:24 | <southernc> | :) |
| 17:24 | <Squelos> | impossible is not french |
| 17:24 | * | southernc send Squelos a real router |
| 17:24 | <Squelos> | thats probly why i spent 3 days trying to install this 4870x2 |
| 17:24 | <Squelos> | :D |
| 17:24 | <Squelos> | no they are quite good. |
| 17:25 | <Squelos> | Whats good with them, is that when they fry because of lightning, you just send them back :p |
| 17:25 | <kaito> | so the question remains should i install the nvidia way or the debian way? |
| 17:26 | <southernc> | if you had a surge protector you wouldnt have to worry about that :) |
| 17:26 | <southernc> | kaito thats completely up to you |
| 17:26 | <Squelos> | well, considering my GF's roof was struck by lightning this afternoon. |
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| 17:27 | <Squelos> | the router isnt the only thing that need replaced |
| 17:27 | <southernc> | they invented lightning rods for a reason |
| 17:27 | <kaito> | i am used to using envy...does it work with this current release |
| 17:27 | <Squelos> | yeah, i dont know why we dont have any ;( |
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| 17:28 | <southernc> | its cause your french :) |
| 17:28 | <kaito> | does anyone know if envy works with debian |
| 17:29 | <southernc> | google it |
| 17:29 | <southernc> | !envy |
| 17:29 | <dpkg> | methinks envy is <search> envy, failing that, <setup x> |
| 17:29 | <kaito> | ..... |
| 17:29 | <stroyan> | mason_: If you downloaded to the desktop you could click on its icon. How to open a file depends on what type of file it is. |
| 17:31 | <craigevil> | kaito: if you need an easy way check out smxi.org its a script that installs nvidia/ati and works magic during apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 17:32 | <locklace> | judd pciid 1106:0415 |
| 17:32 | <judd> | locklace: [1106:0415] is 'PATA IDE Host Controller' from 'VIA Technologies, Inc.' with no known kernel module in lenny or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1106:0415 |
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| 17:37 | <barth> | locklace, so no way ti make an ide drive work with this controller? |
| 17:37 | <barth> | s/ti/to |
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| 17:40 | <locklace> | barth: can you try booting with the all_generic_ide=1 kernel option |
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| 17:41 | <barth> | locklace, Ok I,m trying this |
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| 17:42 | <kaito> | why does flash stuff seem weird |
| 17:42 | <kaito> | !flash |
| 17:42 | <dpkg> | methinks flash is frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> or <swfdec> for free implementations or <adobe flash> for a non-free implementation. See also http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
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| 17:43 | <craigevil> | kaito: because the default on lenny is the crappy swfdec install flashplayer-mozilla from dmm or flashplugin-nonfree from backports |
| 17:44 | <kaito> | is anyone else having problems with flash |
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| 17:44 | <kurumin> | kjki |
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| 17:45 | <kaito> | its bugging out on me and very very stuttery and non repsoncive |
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| 17:46 | <azeem_> | kaito: what flash player do you use? |
| 17:46 | <craigevil> | kaito: what are you using for flash? could also be your video card if you havent installed the correct drivers |
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| 17:47 | <Squelos> | !fglrx |
| 17:47 | <dpkg> | [fglrx][fglrx] "FireGL and Radeon for X", the AMD/ATI proprietary display driver. To install, ask me about <fglrx one-liner> or follow the instructions at http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary . As of fglrx-driver 1:9-4-1, no chipsets prior to the r600 series are supported; ask me about <radeon> or <radeonhd> instead. #ati on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 17:49 | <zeropiel> | my kernel, 686 bigmem kernel, stopped working today. Just kept kicking a reboot when it failed. |
| 17:49 | <kaito> | youtube flash video |
| 17:49 | <kaito> | my GFX card is an nvidia |
| 17:49 | <Squelos> | kaito => does it just close firefox ? |
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| 17:50 | <kaito> | im not using FF im using Epip |
| 17:50 | <zeropiel> | I was able to load an older kernel. Any ideas to how to figure out what went wrong? |
| 17:50 | <Slurb> | kaito: which flashplayer is installed |
| 17:50 | <kaito> | i dunno |
| 17:50 | <kaito> | not 10 |
| 17:50 | <Slurb> | kaito: do you have backports enabled |
| 17:50 | <kaito> | not yet |
| 17:50 | <kaito> | im working on it |
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| 17:50 | <barth> | locklace, no improvements neither with 2.6.26 nor with 2.6.30 |
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| 17:52 | <Slurb> | kaito: enable backports and install flashplugin-nonfree |
| 17:52 | <Slurb> | you are on 64bit right? |
| 17:52 | <kaito> | no |
| 17:53 | <kaito> | i have 4 gig ram so i went with 32 bit anyways |
| 17:53 | <Slurb> | well the non-free one works well for me on 64bit its the adobe player |
| 17:53 | <Slurb> | its in backports for me |
| 17:53 | <locklace> | barth: ok. seems like there's a problem with support for that via ide controller. you can try playing around with "all_generic_ide=1", "generic" and 'irqpoll" boot options and trying to modprobe some of the drivers in /lib/modules/*/kernel/drivers/{ata,ide} manually, but your best option may just be to ask on lkml |
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| 17:54 | <damiank> | hi |
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| 17:54 | <damiank> | can someone show me an example of xorg.conf file for debian lenny? |
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| 17:55 | <barth> | locklace, OK many thanks |
| 17:55 | <Abs0luT> | what command to add new user ? |
| 17:55 | <locklace> | barth: you might also check your bios settings and see if there's anything worth trying there |
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| 17:55 | <damiank> | i want to setup it to support 1024x768 with my monitor |
| 17:55 | <damiank> | now its working at 800x600 |
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| 17:58 | <stroyan> | damiank: You could look at http://paste.debian.net/43693/ |
| 17:58 | <ananth123> | damiank: if you really know that mode works, then copy the section for 800x600 and replace it with 1024x768 |
| 17:58 | <kaito> | yay it works |
| 17:58 | <damiank> | i have an empty xorg.conf |
| 17:58 | <damiank> | :) |
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| 17:59 | <damiank> | i want an example of a working one to use with lenny |
| 17:59 | <damiank> | mine is 0 bytes now :) |
| 18:00 | <Slurb> | hmm |
| 18:00 | <stroyan> | damiank: "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm/stop; sudo xorg -configure" to create a more robust xorg.conf to start with. |
| 18:00 | <Slurb> | need an open port |
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| 18:01 | <stroyan> | damiank: Those two commands would need to be issued at a console login rather than an X terminal emulator. The first one shuts down X. |
| 18:01 | <Squelos> | then cp ./xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg/conf |
| 18:01 | <Squelos> | then cp ./xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 18:14 | <damiank> | stroyan thanks! |
| 18:14 | <damiank> | ill test it |
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| 18:16 | <deniz> | let's say im using lenny and i get source code for a newer version of an application in squeeze. make it a .deb and then install it, then i upgrade to squeeze when it is stable which would have an even newer version...does the fact that i installed with a .deb instead of the "caveman" style compiling mean it would upgrade that package too? |
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| 18:17 | <Slurb> | yes |
| 18:17 | <stroyan> | deniz: Yes. A newer version of the same package will update on top of your .deb. Even in a single release a newer version could come out and replace yours. |
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| 18:17 | <deniz> | stroyan, on top meaning it would replace it and not just install itself without removing the previous version right? |
| 18:18 | <stroyan> | deniz: Right. |
| 18:18 | <deniz> | yay! i love debian :D |
| 18:19 | <deniz> | im glad i can finally compile upstream source to .deb files because ive been struggling for a long time to do it and all because i wasnt doing sudo apt-get build-dep packagename |
| 18:19 | <deniz> | anyways sorry for typing alot |
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| 18:21 | <Abs0luT> | i configured visudo and after configuration how to save it ? |
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| 18:22 | <Slurb> | visudo is like vi |
| 18:22 | <stroyan> | Abs0luT: You save from vi with :wq or ZZ . |
| 18:23 | <Slurb> | i dont know the save command for vi though |
| 18:23 | <Abs0luT> | i tryed to find in google but... |
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| 18:25 | <Squelos> | im back people. |
| 18:25 | <Squelos> | ive got this error while installing the fglrx drivers : http://pastebin.com/d4e9690a |
| 18:25 | <Squelos> | what could it be ? |
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| 18:25 | <stroyan> | Abs0luT: That is curious. http://www.google.com/search?q=visudo+save seems to be very helpful. |
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| 18:26 | <Slurb> | Squelos: use sudo |
| 18:26 | <Squelos> | thanks slurb |
| 18:27 | <Squelos> | you are a god to me |
| 18:27 | <Slurb> | lol |
| 18:27 | <Squelos> | now the moment of truth. |
| 18:27 | <Slurb> | !beer Squelos |
| 18:27 | * | dpkg pours a pint of Delirium Tremens for Squelos |
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| 18:27 | <Squelos> | if i come back in the next 5mins, i installed my drivers. |
| 18:27 | <Squelos> | if not, my kernel is fucked. |
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| 18:30 | <Squelos> | im back. |
| 18:30 | <Squelos> | with good news, and bad news. |
| 18:31 | <Squelos> | call me whatever you want after i tell you this |
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| 18:32 | <Abs0luT> | what is command for uninstaling package |
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| 18:33 | <Squelos> | so, i rebooted (this is my 4th try trying to install fglrx drivers ... i fucked up the kernel 2 or 3 times already, not just the x, the kernel). So, im rebooting, computer restarting, grub, logs, then, the typical black screen = kernel corrupt, that i got twice already. so, this pisses me off. I punch the screen. Then, oh magic ! a nice blue background. Well, blue, except for the black part where i punched the screen. |
| 18:33 | <Squelos> | im going to bed. Fuck me. |
| 18:34 | <Squelos> | cyaz, probly wont be here in a while. |
| 18:34 | <Squelos> | and please, no quotes on any kind of a website. This is not funny. |
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| 18:35 | <stroyan> | Abs0luT: You can use "apt-get remove packagename" to remove a package. "apt-get purge packagename" will remove even the configuration. |
| 18:35 | <Abs0luT> | ok |
| 18:35 | <Abs0luT> | thx |
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| 18:40 | <Abs0luT> | i installed sudo i configurated on non root user and when i trying run .sh files via terminal i get premission denied |
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| 18:41 | <joesn> | hello, in lenny i disabled ipv6 in iceweasel browser by setting network.dns.disableIPv6 to false in about:config, because the websites were not loading |
| 18:42 | <Slurb> | Abs0luT: use sudo sh |
| 18:42 | <joesn> | and now webpages come up in iceweasel |
| 18:42 | <joesn> | but im not able to apt-get update |
| 18:42 | <joesn> | because it shows connecting to ip 1.0.0.0 |
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| 18:42 | <joesn> | so i guess, ipv6 has not been turned off systemwide..is there a way to do that ? |
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| 18:43 | <joesn> | i followed instructions given at http://fak3r.com/2008/12/02/howto-disable-ipv6-networking-in-debian/ , but that doesnt seem to work |
| 18:43 | <joesn> | please help |
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| 18:45 | <joesn> | i also commented out lines involving ipv6 in /etc/hosts |
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| 18:45 | <joesn> | but still the issue remains |
| 18:46 | <joesn> | any way to fix this ? |
| 18:50 | <Slurb> | !no-ipv6 |
| 18:50 | <Slurb> | !noipv6 |
| 18:50 | <dpkg> | from memory, noipv6 is echo "install ipv6 /bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/local (and reboot for the changes to take effect), or http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/409 |
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| 18:50 | <Slurb> | use the link |
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| 18:51 | <joesn> | Slurb: ok |
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| 18:56 | <chealer> | hi. I'm trying to install Eclipse for PHP, and starting with installing a bare eclipse. should I be surprised to see that /usr/bin/eclipse is shipped in eclipse, which depends on all the rest? is there no way to run eclipse without, say, eclipse-jdt? |
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| 19:01 | <bkam> | today I tried to do some hardware maintenance on a debian machine and now it won't boot |
| 19:01 | <bkam> | I had been getting ECC errors from EDAC for a while so I thought I'd try taking out DIMMs one at a time |
| 19:01 | <bkam> | but now I can't even get LILO to show up |
| 19:01 | <Slurb> | bkam did you switch the way the memory was in |
| 19:01 | <bkam> | I'm using LILO because I have an XFS root partition |
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| 19:02 | <bkam> | yes, I've tried 6 DIMMs in all four slots |
| 19:02 | <bkam> | one at a time |
| 19:02 | <Slurb> | oh |
| 19:02 | <bkam> | memtest86 gives errors in test #2 every time |
| 19:02 | <bkam> | but oddly knoppix boots and appears to work fine |
| 19:02 | <bkam> | which doesn't really make sense to me |
| 19:02 | <Slurb> | hmm |
| 19:02 | <bkam> | surely knoppix can't work without memory? |
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| 19:03 | <bkam> | the first time I tried to boot LILO showed up and gave three lines of ... |
| 19:03 | <bkam> | but now it doesn't even show LILO |
| 19:03 | <bkam> | just nothing |
| 19:04 | <bkam> | I haven't tried running LILO again... because I only have a 32-bit knoppix |
| 19:04 | <bkam> | and it's a 64-bit system |
| 19:06 | <bkam> | any ideas/ |
| 19:06 | <bkam> | maybe i'll try to get a 64-bit live cd then run lilo |
| 19:06 | <bkam> | it's weird because within knoppix everything seems totally fine |
| 19:07 | <bkam> | all data on drives looks fine, and the root is RAID-1 anyway |
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| 19:16 | <git-hi9h> | anyone know howto fix the gnome-screensaver mplayer bug yet? |
| 19:17 | <Slurb> | git theres an option in mplayer to disable the screensaver while playing |
| 19:18 | <git-hi9h> | does it work for you? it doesn't seem to work for me. |
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| 19:20 | <Slurb> | git-hi9h: i havent had problems with mplayer. whats the bug your complaining about |
| 19:21 | <git-hi9h> | gnome screensaver starts when mplayer or smplayer is running |
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| 19:23 | <Slurb> | i dont remember whether or not that happens here |
| 19:23 | <Slurb> | in fullscreen? |
| 19:25 | <git-hi9h> | it doesn't seem to matter whether or not its fullscreen or not. |
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| 19:32 | <xoan> | hey |
| 19:33 | <moskvat> | help please |
| 19:33 | <moskvat> | i'm install debian 5.0.2 |
| 19:33 | <xoan> | anyone knows what the package name is of Firefox with apt-get? |
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| 19:34 | <valdyn> | xoan: iceweasel |
| 19:34 | <xoan> | valdyn, Thank you! |
| 19:34 | <moskvat> | The panel encountered a problem loading "OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet". |
| 19:34 | <moskvat> | help me, please |
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| 19:36 | <deniz> | i have the latest virtualbox in lenny, how do i load a 64 bit guest? |
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| 19:37 | <Slurb> | deniz: only if you have a 64bit host |
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| 19:38 | <vaikz> | hi need help on my internet. can connect to the internet but very slow, no problem in windows. |
| 19:38 | <vaikz> | i can't almost browse to the web or apt-get update my linux/ |
| 19:40 | <CrocceR> | free shell ? |
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| 19:43 | <vaikz> | free shell? |
| 19:43 | <bkam> | can anyone help with this hardware issue? http://serverfault.com/questions/51892/odd-memtest86-boot-problems-on-linux-machine |
| 19:43 | <deniz> | Slurb, i read u can also with a 32 bit host but either way i AM using a 64 bit host |
| 19:44 | <Slurb> | then it should work |
| 19:44 | <vaikz> | i only install the bare minimum system so that I can choose waht to install. |
| 19:44 | <deniz> | Slurb, but why isn't it? im using lenny amd64 |
| 19:44 | <Slurb> | what are you doing? |
| 19:44 | <deniz> | ur spose to choose 64 bit from menu? i cant find no such feature |
| 19:45 | <Slurb> | maybe its not on the ose version |
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| 19:45 | <CrocceR> | deniz ßurda türkçe konuÞan yok mu ya :/ |
| 19:45 | <Slurb> | i have the full version with usb from the website |
| 19:45 | <Slurb> | it has a 64bit option |
| 19:46 | <deniz> | CrocceR, turkcm chok guzel dil :( |
| 19:47 | <deniz> | Slurb, i tried ose and non ose and im currently using non-ose |
| 19:47 | <deniz> | because of issues with backported kernels etc |
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| 19:47 | <deniz> | but it works with 32 bit guest |
| 19:47 | <Slurb> | i had a 64bit guest working |
| 19:47 | <Slurb> | i dont know what could be wrong |
| 19:47 | <joesn> | Slurb: i did the steps mentioned on http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/409 |
| 19:48 | <Slurb> | did you make the guest with vbox |
| 19:48 | <joesn> | apt-get update worked once after rebooting |
| 19:48 | <joesn> | but now its back to Connectiong to 1.0.0.0 |
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| 19:48 | <deniz> | Slurb, what do you mean did i make it with it? with what else can i make it with? |
| 19:49 | <Slurb> | you didnt disable anything after you installed it did you or try to install it with 3d support |
| 19:50 | <deniz> | well im testing on live cd .iso file first but i did enable 3d yes altho i allocated 16mb of video memory |
| 19:50 | <deniz> | it also gave me this message sayin i have it on 16 bit colour and i should switch it |
| 19:50 | <deniz> | but thats with a 32 bit live cd |
| 19:50 | <joesn> | i have set blacklist ipv6 in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and created the 00local file with the contents mentioned at the link in /etc/modprobe.d |
| 19:51 | <Slurb> | you cant enable the 3d until after the guest is installed and guest additions is also installed on the guest or else it will boot to a black screen |
| 19:52 | <joesn> | strange thing is , it worked once but now is back to the 1.0.0.0 |
| 19:53 | <joesn> | im stumped as to why this is happening...anything else that can be done here ? |
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| 19:54 | <joesn> | i also did lsmod | grep ipv6, but nothing shows in the result |
| 19:54 | <joesn> | so i guess ipv6 is not loaded |
| 19:55 | <vaikz> | I already disabled it. |
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| 19:55 | <vaikz> | but the problem is still there |
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| 19:55 | <joesn> | vaikz: ? |
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| 19:56 | <deniz> | Slurb, so i just have to disable 3d? |
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| 19:57 | <deniz> | Slurb, and how do you install guest additions if ur OS is not installed or did i misunderstand u? |
| 19:57 | <deniz> | you* |
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| 20:06 | <Slurb> | disable 3d to install a guest |
| 20:06 | <Slurb> | after the guest is installed install guest additions on the guest then enable 3d support |
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| 20:09 | <mason_> | how to download files http wise via putty? or ssh |
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| 20:13 | <deniz> | Slurb, by default 3d is disabled and it still doesnt work |
| 20:13 | <deniz> | Slurb, do i actually need an amd64 cpu cuz i have an EM64T technically |
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| 20:14 | <Slurb> | if you install a guest with the 3d option on i dont think it will ever work. just make a black screen |
| 20:14 | <Slurb> | at least thats what happened for me |
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| 20:19 | <deniz> | but the 3d option is off im using 3.0.4 r50677 |
| 20:19 | <deniz> | im gonna eat ill be bak |
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| 20:20 | <tuxcrafter> | hi all how do i shutdown a debian server with the powerbutton |
| 20:20 | <tuxcrafter> | there is no x installed |
| 20:20 | <tuxcrafter> | hmm wait testin apm |
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| 20:23 | <tuxcrafter> | installed ampd but still the system does not go down when pressing the powerbutton |
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| 20:24 | <Knorrie> | greetings from har2009.org onsite! |
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| 20:29 | <whisley> | pessoal, sou novo no debian, preciso de algum tuto sobre postfix, alguem |
| 20:30 | <bremner> | !pt |
| 20:30 | <dpkg> | Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt ) |
| 20:30 | <tuxcrafter> | Knorrie: thanks |
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| 20:30 | <damiank> | hi |
| 20:30 | <tuxcrafter> | hmm it seems my /proc/acpi/event is missing |
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| 20:30 | <damiank> | i have 1024x768 now |
| 20:31 | <damiank> | thanks |
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| 20:33 | <Knorrie> | tuxcrafter: the uplink has reached 'logistics HQ' already ;] |
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| 20:45 | <dwhit> | I have a new lenny install (kernel 2.6.26-2-686) with nothing chosen from tasksel. I'm trying to get a usb hard drive working, when I plug and unplug the drive I get no messages in /var/log/messages, what am I missing? |
| 20:45 | <xeon-enouf> | locklace: fwiw, the other day you suggested to me fg ; ctrl-Z ; etc a IW/FF PID to determine which WM-session or xterm it was launched from (since there were two, a local pc1 one and ssh -X'd one from pc2). Nice idea, however, i missed it until you ran out; /me gives up, and another pointed it out |
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| 20:45 | <Slurb> | dwhit: check dmesg |
| 20:46 | <Slurb> | n/m |
| 20:46 | <dwhit> | Slurb: Also nothing new there, thanks |
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| 20:47 | <Slurb> | sounds like you need to compile either a module or a new kernel |
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| 20:48 | <Slurb> | what are the drive specs |
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| 20:50 | <dwhit> | It's a new 1.5TB USB2 Seagate Drive, I reformated it to contain only one 600GB VFAT Partition because I thought the large partition might be the problem, but no change |
| 20:51 | <dwhit> | I used my laptop to reformat it, so it works here, just not with the computer running lenny |
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| 20:52 | <mrnice> | dwhit, and also nothing in dmesg? |
| 20:52 | <tuxcrafter> | Knorrie: we will need that uplink :D but i got hsdpa routers in reserve :D |
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| 20:53 | <dwhit> | mrnice: no, nothing when I plug and uplug it, I manually modprobed usb_storage, and that gave me " Initializing USB Mass Storage driver..." and " USB Mass Storage support registered." but nothing about the drive |
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| 20:53 | <Slurb> | if it shows in dmesg while plugged in it should work |
| 20:54 | <dwhit> | it doesn't show anything in dmesg when I plug it in |
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| 20:59 | <Slurb> | have you tried restarting the computer |
| 21:00 | <xeon-enouf> | dwhit: some proprietary software on it? like OEM crap? and see if lsusb -v sees it, try update-usbids and update-pciids, but yeah, your USB poerts/controller modules are prolly shot |
| 21:01 | <ahmed> | bonsoire |
| 21:01 | <xeon-enouf> | you shouldn't need to modprobe usb_storage - make sure udevd is running |
| 21:01 | <bremner> | !tell ahmed -about fr |
| 21:01 | <xeon-enouf> | buenvenito |
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| 21:02 | <dwhit> | xeon-enouf: on the drive? No it's completely empty |
| 21:02 | <xeon-enouf> | no dwhit |
| 21:02 | <xeon-enouf> | on lenny |
| 21:02 | <dwhit> | no, new install from earlier today |
| 21:02 | <xeon-enouf> | that's the issue then |
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| 21:03 | <xeon-enouf> | as root /etc/init.d/udev force-reload or something .. |
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| 21:26 | <bike> | i wonder how "using dash will improve the systems overall performance" |
| 21:26 | <bremner> | just look at the name |
| 21:26 | <bike> | debian ash |
| 21:26 | <bike> | i know |
| 21:26 | <user01> | why would passing a signal through a second router degrade a signal too much? |
| 21:27 | <user01> | thats according to comcast |
| 21:27 | <bremner> | comcast=morons? |
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| 21:27 | <bike> | cant say i've noticed much, i do that here |
| 21:27 | <bike> | across wlan even |
| 21:29 | <user01> | well...doesnt make sense when i plug directly in from ethernet from first router it works, when i plug into the router, it is extremely slow internet |
| 21:29 | <user01> | and they tell me it is because it is too far from the source cable modem |
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| 21:30 | <bremner> | that your ethernet cable is too long? |
| 21:30 | <bike> | sounds like a conflict |
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| 21:30 | <bike> | i had some problems with the isp router when i moved it from 10.0... to 192...2 |
| 21:30 | <bike> | it started operating extremely slowly |
| 21:30 | <Slurb> | i put mine in numberless mode |
| 21:31 | <user01> | numberless mode? |
| 21:31 | <dwhit> | xeon-enouf: I think that the usb controller card is flaky, thanks for your help |
| 21:31 | <Slurb> | it doesnt exist on the network |
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| 21:32 | <user01> | well i could maybe work on it some more, but i was thinking of just getting another cable modem anyway DOCSIS 3.0 if they are really that much faster |
| 21:33 | <user01> | it just really bothers me that once i plug it into the second router then it becomes an issue |
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| 21:34 | <user01> | bike, switching back to 10.0 . . . worked? |
| 21:34 | <bike> | your stuffin the plug in the wan port i suppose? |
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| 21:34 | <bike> | yeah, it became more responsive for some reason |
| 21:34 | <bike> | might not have liked the 192....2 part |
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| 21:35 | <user01> | bike, you mean on the second router? |
| 21:35 | <bike> | the first, the second one is 192....1 |
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| 21:37 | <adann> | boa noite |
| 21:37 | <user01> | bike, hopefully that would work in reverse |
| 21:38 | <bike> | probably, it should, but you did plug it in the wan port of the second router ? |
| 21:38 | <bike> | not the switch? |
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| 21:40 | <user01> | bike, yep |
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| 21:41 | <r> | hello, i upgraded my sid (amd64) and now my X are like: "dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//intel_drv.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64" |
| 21:41 | <user01> | well brb that sounds like a good idea bike im going to try it out :) |
| 21:41 | <bike> | =) |
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| 21:43 | <xeon-enouf> | r: some chroot going on? 32bit userlands? |
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| 21:43 | <r> | no... |
| 21:43 | <r> | normal installation |
| 21:43 | <r> | i am having intel g33 card (internal) |
| 21:44 | <r> | which should use intel driver |
| 21:44 | <r> | but cant load even vesa one |
| 21:44 | <r> | dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//vesa_drv.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 |
| 21:44 | <r> | (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//vesa_drv.so |
| 21:45 | <xeon-enouf> | well, sid is known to break things ;-) try /msg dpkg XStrikeForce |
| 21:45 | <xeon-enouf> | that EE, might mean you have wrong Driver listed in xorg.conf |
| 21:46 | <r> | i even deleted xorg.conf |
| 21:46 | <r> | methinks xstrikeforce is at http://people.debian.org/~branden/ now |
| 21:46 | <r> | -- that page is not working for me |
| 21:46 | <xeon-enouf> | or it was falling back, on it's own? ... is HAL installed/running? there's been a lot of discussion about X depends on hal and whatnot |
| 21:46 | <xeon-enouf> | oh |
| 21:46 | <xeon-enouf> | r: visit #debian-x , see /topic |
| 21:47 | <r> | xeon-enouf: thanks |
| 21:47 | <r> | that might work :) |
| 21:47 | <xeon-enouf> | np |
| 21:47 | <xeon-enouf> | Topic for #debian-x: Problems with the latest big Xorg transition? Check here first: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/CurrentProblemsInUnstable |
| 21:47 | <xeon-enouf> | heh |
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| 22:10 | <Slurb> | laterz |
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| 22:33 | * | southernc yawn |
| 22:33 | <Slurb> | southernc: i got a gcc-4.4.1 deb if you want it |
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| 22:35 | <deniz> | Slurb, k im bak so ya basically when i create a new virtual system, by default 3d is disabled and my issue still occurs |
| 22:36 | <Slurb> | deniz that is strange have you checked the website to see if it is supported and installed the way they say |
| 22:36 | <Slurb> | what os are you attempting to install |
| 22:37 | <southernc> | Slurb ahh you made one ? |
| 22:37 | <Slurb> | southernc: yes |
| 22:37 | <southernc> | sorry was wandering off in drinking coffee world |
| 22:38 | <icebrain> | is anyone running iceweasel 3.5 w/ xulrunner 1.9.1? |
| 22:38 | <southernc> | ml|: wow thats a pretty effecient window manager boring as all hell though :) |
| 22:40 | <deniz> | Slurb, to see if what is supported? i did dpkg -i then apt-get install -f |
| 22:41 | <southernc> | deniz whats the problem ? |
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| 22:48 | <deniz> | southernc, i cant get a 64 bit guest to work in a 64 bit host on the latest non-open source virtualbox and i dont know what i am doing wrong |
| 22:49 | <Slurb> | try modprobe vboxdrv |
| 22:49 | <bike> | are there any tools for analyzing data going trough the pci bus? or some sort of tool to peak at the system internals? |
| 22:49 | <bike> | something is messing up the pcibus on a lappy here |
| 22:50 | <bike> | hm, this looks interesting "nictools-pci" |
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| 22:53 | <southernc> | deniz you get any kind of errors in logs ? |
| 22:53 | <deniz> | southernc, the only error is in the virtual system with my cpu not supporting the kernel |
| 22:53 | <deniz> | well my virtual cpu that is |
| 22:54 | <southernc> | what kernel ? |
| 22:54 | <southernc> | uname -a |
| 22:57 | <Slurb> | i had to enable acpi to get the guest os to work |
| 22:57 | <Slurb> | for both install and afterwards |
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| 23:26 | <southernc> | hey craig you around ? |
| 23:26 | <southernc> | craigevil: * |
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| 23:28 | <cockroach> | hmm, i'm currently installing debian from the latest (5.0.2) mini-iso and installation hangs because, in the background, apt is complaining about untrusted packages (i should type "yes" now) - what can i do? |
| 23:28 | <Slurb> | where did you get the iso from? |
| 23:29 | <Slurb> | cockroach: ^^ |
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| 23:29 | <cockroach> | Slurb: debian.org |
| 23:29 | <cockroach> | (torrent) |
| 23:29 | <Slurb> | i would type yes |
| 23:29 | <cockroach> | Slurb: sure, but i can't :) |
| 23:30 | <cockroach> | it only shows the prompt in the log on vt4 |
| 23:30 | <Slurb> | im not familiar with the mini iso |
| 23:30 | <Slurb> | have you tried expert install |
| 23:31 | <Slurb> | expert-gui |
| 23:31 | <cockroach> | no |
| 23:32 | <Slurb> | the only other thing i can recommend is trying the netinstall image |
| 23:32 | <Slurb> | thats what i used |
| 23:32 | <cockroach> | oh, now it works. i just had to retry. nice, i guess :) |
| 23:32 | <Slurb> | !customer |
| 23:32 | <dpkg> | A satisfied customer? We should have him stuffed! |
| 23:33 | <cockroach> | but thanks for your help! |
| 23:33 | <Slurb> | n/p |
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| 23:41 | <craigevil> | ? |
| 23:41 | <craigevil> | southernc: ? |
| 23:43 | <Slurb> | irctag apparently craigevil is it |
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| 23:52 | <southernc> | oh yea i had a question about why the dam popup kept coming up complaining aBOUT NO SETTINGS DOMAIN BUT I FIGURED IT OUT |
| 23:55 | <sney^> | ARE YOU NOW HAVING DIFFICULTIES WITH YOUR KEYBOARD |
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| 23:56 | <Slurb> | he has a broken backspace |
| 23:56 | <Slurb> | j/k |
| 23:58 | <southernc> | yea my fingers are to big and always hit the stupid capslock |
| 23:59 | <Slurb> | get a bigger keyboard |
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| 23:59 | <southernc> | i need like a senior citizen keyboard |
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| --- | Log | closed Sun Aug 09 00:00:13 2009 |
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