| --- | Log | opened Tue Jul 21 00:00:46 2009 |
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| 00:01 | <jaremey> | Im am trying to burn an AVI file to a DVD so that I can watch it on my DVD player. Is there someone that can help me? |
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| 00:03 | <dr|z3d> | jakeriver: Use K3B or another app. Most should allow you to do that. |
| 00:05 | <jaremey> | where do i get k3b |
| 00:05 | <jaremey> | my add/remove is gone |
| 00:05 | <dr|z3d> | aptitude install k3b should do it. |
| 00:06 | <dr|z3d> | (from a console). |
| 00:06 | <dr|z3d> | Or use Synaptic. Whichever suits. |
| 00:06 | <jaremey> | nice thanks |
| 00:13 | <jaremey> | Im am trying to burn an AVI file to a DVD using bsoero so that I can watch it on my DVD player. Is there someone that can help me? |
| 00:14 | <jaremey> | i cant add anymore apps. my comp is messed up i have no permissions |
| 00:14 | <jaremey> | *brasero |
| 00:15 | <remy> | what problem did you say? |
| 00:16 | <jaremey> | i just need to bur and avi to dvd using brasero |
| 00:17 | <remy> | ok, but what's wrong with brasero or burning or whatever? |
| 00:17 | <remy> | or with your system? |
| 00:17 | <remy> | explain, please. |
| 00:17 | <jaremey> | nothing that i know of i just dont know how. |
| 00:17 | <jaremey> | i tried starting a new vedo project |
| 00:18 | <jaremey> | added the avi and i have no idea what to do next |
| 00:18 | <Toxicshell> | jaremey, install devede |
| 00:19 | <jaremey> | i cant install anything right now because i have no permissions. my omputer is all messed up |
| 00:19 | <jaremey> | ill deal with that later |
| 00:19 | <jaremey> | i was just hoping i could do it with brasero |
| 00:20 | <Toxicshell> | mmm |
| 00:21 | <Toxicshell> | so what who you doing ? |
| 00:21 | <remy> | i would have tried with a 'data project', but not sure |
| 00:21 | <remy> | just try to see if it works better |
| 00:21 | <remy> | AVI is data |
| 00:21 | <Toxicshell> | maybe |
| 00:22 | <jaremey> | ok ill try that |
| 00:22 | <Toxicshell> | if the dvd player support that format |
| 00:22 | <remy> | and you'll read as a data file anyway |
| 00:22 | <Toxicshell> | maybe can work |
| 00:22 | <Toxicshell> | but if dvd player don't support... |
| 00:22 | <remy> | well, it should read it as video file... |
| 00:22 | <Toxicshell> | just can do install devede to convert the *.avi |
| 00:22 | <dr|z3d> | No, no. |
| 00:23 | <jaremey> | what should i do |
| 00:23 | <dr|z3d> | If you want to play the DVD on a standalone player, you'll need to author it as a DVD. |
| 00:23 | <dr|z3d> | Some players will take data discs, many won't. |
| 00:23 | <jaremey> | how do i do that. mine wont |
| 00:23 | <dr|z3d> | If yours happens to support data discs, then ok. |
| 00:24 | <dr|z3d> | Brasero? That should allow you to author a movie disc. |
| 00:24 | <jaremey> | mine does not it a cheap walmart speacial |
| 00:24 | <remy> | jaremey: are you gonna play that movie on a computer or on a dvd-player in yoour living room? |
| 00:25 | <jaremey> | dvd player a cheap one |
| 00:25 | <remy> | hmm.. |
| 00:25 | <dr|z3d> | http://tuxarena.blogspot.com/2009/07/top-3-linux-burning-applications.html |
| 00:25 | <jaremey> | i need DVD format |
| 00:25 | <dr|z3d> | http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/117485-how-write-10g-avi-movie-4-7-g-dvd.html |
| 00:26 | <dr|z3d> | Note that Brasero is recommended, there. |
| 00:26 | <dr|z3d> | jaremey: Also, don't be afraid to google! |
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| 00:29 | <kullu_boy> | hello guys |
| 00:32 | <kullu_boy> | I have debian 5.0.0 lenny and was trying to setup pppoe connection on my box using the tool rp-pppoe. it connects and I am assigned an IP but I am not able to ping any other host except my ISP. I have already queried and entered the nameservers on the /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/ppp/resolv.conf ,restarted the network daemon but still I m noit able to ping. Any Ideas guys.? :) |
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| 00:38 | <chealer> | kullu_boy: did you try pppoeconf? |
| 00:38 | <dr|z3d> | Maybe your ISP is dropping icmp packets. |
| 00:38 | <kullu_boy> | chealer, oh yes I have configured it through pppoeconf :) |
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| 00:38 | <kullu_boy> | chealer, I checked the plog and I can ping to my ISP |
| 00:38 | <chealer> | kullu_boy: what are you unable to ping? |
| 00:39 | <kullu_boy> | chealer, anyhost apart from My ISP |
| 00:39 | <chealer> | kullu_boy: such as? |
| 00:39 | <kullu_boy> | chealer, google.com |
| 00:39 | <chealer> | kullu_boy: which IP address? |
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| 00:45 | <Administrator_> | hey chealer you there buddy? |
| 00:45 | <chealer> | Administrator_: yes |
| 00:46 | <Administrator_> | chealer, yes kullu_boy here |
| 00:46 | <chealer> | Administrator_: yeah. so which IP address are you unable to ping? |
| 00:46 | <Administrator_> | chealer, I am not able to ping any site except my ISP |
| 00:47 | <chealer> | Administrator_: please give an example |
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| 00:47 | <Administrator_> | chealer, ping www.google.co.in says "Network Unreachable" |
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| 00:48 | <Administrator_> | chealer P-t-P Ip thats my ISP. M able to ping that successfully |
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| 00:49 | <chealer> | Administrator_: what does # ifconfig; output? what does /etc/resolv.conf contain? |
| 00:49 | <remy> | Administrator_: 'ping google.com' resolves to 209.85.229.147 from here |
| 00:50 | <Administrator_> | chealer ifconfig ppp gives me the right info. I have put down the nameservers as queried by plog and have put down in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 00:50 | <remy> | Administrator_: but i am in spain, so don't for you you are. |
| 00:50 | <Administrator_> | remy, google servers are different for different locations. |
| 00:50 | <Administrator_> | but I feel we can ping them |
| 00:50 | <Administrator_> | from antarctica too |
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| 00:51 | <chealer> | Administrator_: I'm not sure what you mean by "I have put down the nameservers as queried by plog and have put down in /etc/resolv.conf" |
| 00:51 | <chealer> | Administrator_: did you manually edit /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 00:52 | <Administrator_> | chealer, yes |
| 00:52 | <chealer> | Administrator_: why? |
| 00:52 | <Administrator_> | chealer, #plog gives the primary and secondary nameservers |
| 00:52 | <Administrator_> | cause it was not working before too |
| 00:53 | <Administrator_> | and the manual told to put the DNS information |
| 00:53 | <chealer> | Administrator_: pon should do that itself. which manual? |
| 00:54 | <Administrator_> | chealer, pppoe |
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| 00:56 | <Administrator_> | chealer so if I can ping my |
| 00:56 | <Administrator_> | ISP and not others |
| 00:56 | <Administrator_> | then its probably the case of resolving hostnames or routing problem ? |
| 00:57 | <chealer> | Administrator_: don't use pppoe. just use pon if you have issues. initially, simply use pppoeconf |
| 00:58 | <Administrator_> | chealer, I used pon only in the beginning and plog says its done but the same problem |
| 00:58 | <chealer> | Administrator_: well, are you able to resolve a hostname? |
| 01:00 | <Administrator_> | chealer, seems like. |
| 01:00 | <chealer> | Administrator_: what do you mean? |
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| 01:00 | <Administrator_> | chealer, that its more likely the hostname resolving problem |
| 01:01 | <chealer> | Administrator_: what makes you write that? |
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| 01:03 | <Administrator_> | chealer, I think I am not getting the problem |
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| 01:04 | <chealer> | Administrator_: I don't follow you |
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| 01:39 | <Jason1> | ok question |
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| 01:39 | <Jason1> | I want a IRC program, not included in any mutliprotocol programs |
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| 01:39 | <Jason1> | just irc program forl inux |
| 01:39 | <Jason1> | for debian |
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| 01:39 | <Toxicshell> | graphic? |
| 01:40 | <Jason1> | text is ok |
| 01:40 | <Jason1> | or GUI |
| 01:40 | <Toxicshell> | GUI |
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| 01:40 | <Toxicshell> | xchat |
| 01:40 | <Toxicshell> | but |
| 01:40 | <Jason1> | text then |
| 01:40 | <Toxicshell> | you use gnome or kde ? |
| 01:40 | <Jason1> | gnome |
| 01:40 | <Toxicshell> | xchat |
| 01:40 | <Toxicshell> | gui |
| 01:41 | <Jason1> | I prefer gnome over kde |
| 01:41 | <Toxicshell> | pidgin |
| 01:41 | <Toxicshell> | text |
| 01:41 | <EmleyMoor> | irssi is a good text IRC client |
| 01:41 | <Toxicshell> | or console |
| 01:41 | <Toxicshell> | irssi |
| 01:41 | <Toxicshell> | bitch |
| 01:41 | <Toxicshell> | whatever... |
| 01:41 | <Jason1> | did you.... |
| 01:41 | <Jason1> | call me a <censored>? |
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| 01:41 | <jm_> | for text you have irssi, scrollz, ircii ... |
| 01:42 | <Jason1> | irssi |
| 01:42 | <jm_> | bitchx is no longer in debian |
| 01:42 | <Jason1> | ok how do I install it? |
| 01:42 | <Jason1> | apt-get? |
| 01:42 | <Toxicshell> | jm_, not... |
| 01:42 | <Toxicshell> | but that compile |
| 01:42 | <craigevil> | !bitchx |
| 01:42 | <dpkg> | BitchX is an old and unmaintained <IRC> client built on epic and ircII. As a Debian package, screwed up and not falling back to IPv4 when IPv6 ain't possible. It's not as good as <irssi> and needs less moronic /quit messages. If you are an irssi user who is annoyed by said /quit messages, ask me about <literal bitchxignore>. Abandoned by upstream, removed from Debian to resolve bug #451373. |
| 01:42 | <jm_> | yup, just like any other package |
| 01:42 | <Jason1> | lol |
| 01:42 | <craigevil> | Jason1: the same way you install everything in debian aptitude or apt-get install |
| 01:43 | <Jason1> | ok |
| 01:43 | <Jason1> | installing irssi |
| 01:44 | <Jason1> | wow a lot better |
| 01:44 | <Jason1> | but had to learn the keyboard shortcuts |
| 01:45 | <craigevil> | Jason1: you might want the irssi-scripts package if installing irssi didnt pull it in |
| 01:45 | <Jason1> | oh thanks |
| 01:46 | <jm_> | and read some startup docs on their web page otherwise the defaults will annoy you |
| 01:46 | <Jason1> | I don't mind defaults |
| 01:46 | <jm_> | ok then |
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| 01:47 | <craigevil> | Jason1: irssi can do some cool stuff it just takes a while to figure it out, like split windows http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssisplit |
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| 01:48 | <EmleyMoor> | After using zircon for years I tried irssi and found it would do everything I wanted |
| 01:49 | * | phorce1 needs to figure out if his /home/user/.irssi/config can be copied verbatim over to his Windoze emergency irssi anstallation |
| 01:49 | <phorce1> | s/anst/inst/ |
| 01:49 | <EmleyMoor> | phorce1: I would try it and see |
| 01:49 | <Monev> | you have to figure out how to split windows, yet in weechat you dont even have to think |
| 01:49 | <Monev> | :) |
| 01:50 | <Jason1> | ok done installed scripts |
| 01:50 | <phorce1> | I can't get a high enough screen resolution to worry about splitting chat windows |
| 01:51 | <EmleyMoor> | I use windows in irssi - but not split - though I did try that |
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| 01:58 | <Monev> | what can you do with windows that is not splitting? |
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| 01:59 | <jm_> | think of it as like several desktops in wm - they are there but hidden |
| 02:00 | <Monev> | so... you do nothing then? |
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| 02:01 | <jm_> | ehh? no, it will display everything in it and notify you in status bar etc. and you switch to it to check |
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| 02:07 | <Monev> | ok... o_O? |
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| 02:17 | <ro0t> | morning.... I am having problems configuring my eeepc as a client in an VPN.. I installed openvpn,but cannot find tun0 device anywhere, so I assume I must create it... right ??? I can see, anyay, pan0; I googled around but it is quite confusing... any brilliant ideas? thanks |
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| 02:26 | <chn> | rtfm? |
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| 02:29 | <jmarsden> | ro0t: http://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/openvpn |
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| 02:32 | <ro0t> | thanks, I did read the manual,but iḿ ust a poor user , ust don't like non-open software, so is hard for me,sorry .... the point is I tried bringing up the tun0 interface, as I remember from my job, where is already configured, and when i ifconfig -a , I cannot see tun0. So I assume I should create the interface first, but don know the command and my efforts in trying to look for it where 0. |
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| 02:42 | <chn> | http://www.debianhelp.org/node/11958 |
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| 02:43 | <Yoda-BZH`Wk> | salut/hi |
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| 02:51 | <Shazburg> | I'm using Xen on 64-bit Lenny and I need to setup a 32-bit guest. Can I use apt to pull the 32-bit kernel, or must I work a darker magik? |
| 02:52 | <twb> | Shazburg: surely you use virt-manager to create the domu, not apt-get? |
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| 02:54 | <Shazburg> | twb: Hadn't even come across it before, but I'm looking at it now. And don't call me Shirley. ;) |
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| 03:06 | <dtapia63> | Good evening... |
| 03:06 | <dtapia63> | how can I mount my home folder in another drive? |
| 03:07 | <twb> | dtapia63: certainly |
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| 03:08 | <dtapia63> | hello!?!?!?! |
| 03:09 | <dtapia63> | new to this, can somebody help, please... |
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| 03:10 | <noctis> | hi, during today's dist-upgrade on squeeze, the system wants to remove korganizer and kaddressbook, but doesn't seem to replace them with something useful. Am I right to abort the upgrade? |
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| 03:20 | <twb> | noctis: are you using aptitude? |
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| 03:20 | <noctis> | twb: no, plain sudo apt-get dist-upgare |
| 03:21 | <twb> | Don't do that, then |
| 03:21 | <twb> | apt-get will not tell you that there IS a conflict, let alone what is it or what solutions exist. |
| 03:21 | <noctis> | twb: you mean "don't do today's upgrade"? |
| 03:21 | <twb> | aptitude will tell you WHY it wants to remove those packages |
| 03:22 | <noctis> | ah, ok. Thanks |
| 03:22 | <jm_> | i.e. aptitude why/why-not is useful |
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| 03:32 | <twb> | I always forget that one |
| 03:33 | <jm_> | me too, it's very usefuk especially when someone mentiones some shit like "but is not going to be installed" |
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| 03:39 | <noctis> | Hmm, the problem is if I install aptitude, I'll have to remove korganizer :-) |
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| 03:40 | <ao2> | hi, can anyone test if packages.debian.org is reachable with IPv6? It isn't from here |
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| 03:41 | <sp> | ao2: reachable |
| 03:41 | <sp> | ao2: I'm connected via sixxs |
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| 03:43 | <ao2> | sp, I am with sixxs as well, so the problem is in my transit, it really depends on the route, thanks |
| 03:43 | <sp> | you're welcome |
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| 03:47 | <lancerocke> | can anyone try helping me with what i posted here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7651128#post7651128 |
| 03:48 | <lancerocke> | ive tried the ubuntu irc channel |
| 03:48 | <jm_> | this is for debian, not for ubuntu |
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| 03:54 | <bzed> | lancerocke: 1. never do weird things in /usr/share; 2. the reply in the forum looks right. 3. THIS IS NOT UBUNTU. |
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| 04:27 | <Shazburg> | Is "config_software_suspend=y" in the xen kernels or do you have to roll your own? |
| 04:30 | <jm_> | Shazburg: why not check for yourself? |
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| 04:34 | <Shazburg> | jm_: Because I'm tired and not thinking straight. ;) Thanks. |
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| 05:40 | <dbbolton> | aptitude is looking for updates on deb.opera.com but there is no such entry in my sources.list. where is this coming from? |
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| 05:40 | <olet> | sources.list.d? |
| 05:40 | <themill> | dbbolton: anything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ? |
| 05:41 | <dbbolton> | only 1 empty line |
| 05:41 | <dbbolton> | oops |
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| 05:41 | <dbbolton> | i tried to open it with vim, but i guess it's a directory |
| 05:42 | <olet> | it is |
| 05:42 | <dbbolton> | oh, then it is empty |
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| 05:42 | <dbbolton> | i had installed opera from one of their debs but i've since removed it |
| 05:43 | <themill> | dbbolton: perhaps pastebin the output of "aptitude update" |
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| 05:44 | <dbbolton> | http://dbbolton.pastebin.com/db0dc052 |
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| 05:46 | <themill> | dbbolton: there must be an entry in there somewhere... "rgrep opera.com /etc/apt" |
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| 05:48 | <jm_> | possibly /etc/apt/vendors.list ? |
| 05:49 | <dbbolton> | http://dbbolton.pastebin.com/d323e522a |
| 05:50 | <jm_> | you said sources.list.d is empty |
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| 05:52 | <dbbolton> | when i olet said "it is" i thought he meant "it is a file". my bad |
| 05:52 | <jm_> | so there you have it |
| 05:53 | <dbbolton> | indeed |
| 05:53 | <olet> | you said you guess it's a directory |
| 05:54 | <dbbolton> | i did say that. |
| 05:54 | <jm_> | I have opera.deb installed and it didn't put anything there |
| 05:54 | <olet> | .d in /etc is usualy a directory |
| 05:54 | <olet> | :) |
| 05:54 | <jm_> | chromium did though |
| 05:54 | <vvas> | jm_: it's a recent thing |
| 05:55 | <dbbolton> | how can i remove opera from the gpg ring |
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| 05:55 | <themill> | dbbolton: man apt-key |
| 05:56 | <dbbolton> | oh right, apt-key del opera |
| 05:56 | <vvas> | hm, i don't have opera on this computer |
| 05:56 | * | vvas apt-gets |
| 05:56 | <dbbolton> | vvas you aren't missing much |
| 05:56 | <themill> | dbbolton: it will be the key id not "opera" though |
| 05:57 | <vvas> | dbbolton: i quite like opera actually |
| 05:57 | <vvas> | though adblock+ makes it *very* difficult for me to migrate to anything else but firefox |
| 05:57 | <dbbolton> | konqueror has it now |
| 05:58 | <dbbolton> | themill, it said ok when i did it. now i don't see anything related to opera in apt-key list |
| 05:58 | <jm_> | just use privoxy and all browsers will benefit |
| 05:58 | <vvas> | i used to; abp is superior |
| 05:59 | <vvas> | i had been using privoxy back from when it was called "the internet junkbuster", heh |
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| 05:59 | <jm_> | how is it superior? |
| 05:59 | <dbbolton> | does anyone know what these are: http://dbbolton.pastebin.com/d68d07720 |
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| 06:02 | <vvas> | it auto-updates its filter subscriptions; the element hiding works better (and it has a cool interactive UI, as a separate extension); in general interfacing with it is more user-friendly/direct |
| 06:03 | <vvas> | and also in my experience making the browser go through a proxy slows it down (limits simultaneous connections etc) |
| 06:04 | <jm_> | not really, you can configure that in firefox |
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| 06:06 | <XayOn> | I think privoxy is lighter, and can be used where ab can't (as links and so on...) |
| 06:06 | <vvas> | anyway, abp works better for me than privoxy; ymmv |
| 06:07 | <vvas> | XayOn: and exactly what do you need to block in links? :^) |
| 06:07 | <XayOn> | Also, ab just doesn't show them, privoxy really filters them |
| 06:07 | <XayOn> | vvas: links -g |
| 06:07 | <vvas> | XayOn: incorrect |
| 06:07 | <jm_> | ok thanks for the comments, nothing that I need, will stick to privoxy |
| 06:08 | <XayOn> | jm_: Same here. |
| 06:08 | <jm_> | XayOn: are you aware of any pre-made filter files like neil van dyke's? |
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| 06:11 | <XayOn> | jm_: No. |
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| 07:46 | <Kaharun> | A |
| 07:46 | <Kaharun> | Aku |
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| 07:53 | <FilipeMaia> | I've been trying to update a sarge computer to stable and I'm having issues with python |
| 07:53 | <Gekz> | erm |
| 07:53 | <Gekz> | don't quote me on this, but I think you have to update sarge to etch first |
| 07:53 | <Gekz> | then to lenny |
| 07:54 | <Gekz> | sarge is ancient >_>! |
| 07:54 | <FilipeMaia> | i see |
| 07:54 | <FilipeMaia> | I'll give it a try, thanks |
| 07:55 | <FilipeMaia> | I'm getting such an error now: |
| 07:55 | <FilipeMaia> | E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (1) on debconf |
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| 07:56 | <jm_> | yes that's typicall error you get if you skip a version in upgrade |
| 07:57 | <FilipeMaia> | ok looks like I messed up |
| 07:57 | <FilipeMaia> | is it possible to recover? |
| 07:57 | <FilipeMaia> | i saw some reports of installing debconf by hand |
| 07:57 | <jm_> | try upgrading to etch first |
| 07:58 | <FilipeMaia> | that's what i'm trying now |
| 07:58 | <jm_> | and you are getting the same error? |
| 07:58 | <FilipeMaia> | yes |
| 07:58 | <FilipeMaia> | the first one was a python error |
| 07:58 | <FilipeMaia> | while installing bugreport |
| 07:58 | <FilipeMaia> | complaining about lack of pyton 2.4 |
| 07:58 | <FilipeMaia> | then it changed to this one |
| 07:58 | <jm_> | has it managed to upgrade any packages before the error? |
| 07:58 | <FilipeMaia> | then i changed the sources.list to etch did apt-get update and apt-get -f dist-upgrade |
| 07:59 | <FilipeMaia> | yes it did |
| 07:59 | <jm_> | right, so I suggest you downgrade those manually back to sarge version with dpkg |
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| 08:05 | <FilipeMaia> | removing python-central and python-newt seems to have fixed the problem for now |
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| 08:14 | <perini> | hi |
| 08:14 | <perini> | is here the irc://irc.freenode.net/django channel? |
| 08:15 | <tlynn> | no |
| 08:15 | <perini> | how can go there? it's the first time I'm using it. |
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| 08:16 | <tlynn> | Try typing "/server irc.freenode.net" followed by "/join #django" |
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| 08:23 | <vvas> | pff, the grub maintainers planned the whole upgrade to grub2, transitional packages and all, but forgot to divert update-grub |
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| 08:25 | <jm_> | hmm why would that need diverting? |
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| 08:26 | <vvas> | well, i guess a Replaces should do the trick too |
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| 08:26 | <jm_> | it conflicts with grub |
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| 08:27 | <jm_> | and has replaces too |
| 08:28 | <vvas> | yes, but grub is just a dummy package now |
| 08:30 | <vvas> | also it's recommended by the installation of grub-pc itself that you should start by chainloading grub2 from grub1 |
| 08:30 | <vvas> | which would be impossible to do if grub2 removed grub1 due to a conflict |
| 08:30 | <vvas> | so yeah, i'd say they haven't quite thought this through |
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| 08:31 | <jm_> | well I haven't looked at unstable, commenting about lenny |
| 08:32 | <vvas> | well, the last thing i mentioned would be an issue there too |
| 08:33 | <jm_> | not really - if you have boot loader installed already it works fine |
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| 08:33 | <jm_> | of course I see no point in doing it that way, just use grub2 and be done with it |
| 08:34 | <vvas> | ... once you've made sure it works correctly |
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| 09:17 | <Zathraz> | Hi. On Debian Etch I have an issue that a user other than root cannot become user postgres although I think that should be possible through sudo. I think PAM somehow prevents this. Any experts/insights on the subject please? Any hints how to debug this? |
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| 09:20 | <jm_> | Zathraz: user postgress probably has no password set, so it's all normal |
| 09:21 | <dondelelcaro> | Zathraz: there's no reason to become the postgres use |
| 09:21 | <_spOOn_> | or shell could be set to /sbin/nologin |
| 09:21 | <dondelelcaro> | Zathraz: everyon |
| 09:21 | <dondelelcaro> | > Thanks |
| 09:21 | <dondelelcaro> | > Raghav |
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| 09:21 | <dondelelcaro> | Zathraz: everyone else should be granted the appropriate permissions that they need using postgresql itself |
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| 09:22 | <Zathraz> | I need a backup script to run as user postgres. I can su - this from being root, but not as the user which runs the backupsystem |
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| 09:24 | <dondelelcaro> | Zathraz: why does it need to run as postgres? |
| 09:25 | <Zathraz> | to let it have access to all databases. Running as user postgres is quite common. Also for adding users |
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| 09:25 | <damiano> | hello |
| 09:25 | <damiano> | http://nopaste.com/p/aIcnx60Mz does it mean SSL is started? |
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| 09:33 | <franklin> | Comtom: correct, I can't create files in the folder... see http://solid.local/~fpiat/Francisco_de_Sande/ |
| 09:33 | <dondelelcaro> | Zathraz: it's a backup script; it shouldn't be adding users. Regardless, the backup script should have its own user which is a superuser in postgresql |
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| 09:35 | <Zathraz> | hmmm. Adding users is just an example of why one wants te become user postgres. All commandline administration must be done this way |
| 09:35 | <johana> | #gfc |
| 09:35 | <dondelelcaro> | Zathraz: nope. A superuser can create users |
| 09:35 | <damiano> | how to create a symbolic link? |
| 09:35 | <johana> | msg/gfc |
| 09:36 | <dondelelcaro> | Zathraz: but in any event, you can certainly sudo -u postgres pgsql; |
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| 09:36 | <Zathraz> | my point being: that command does not work..... |
| 09:36 | <Zathraz> | although sudo is setup correctly |
| 09:37 | <dondelelcaro> | Zathraz: it certainly does here |
| 09:37 | <Zathraz> | all my other sudo stuff works fine |
| 09:37 | <dondelelcaro> | well, 's/pgsql/psql/' of course. |
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| 09:38 | <dondelelcaro> | sudo -u postgres id; if you don't believe me. |
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| 09:38 | <marcel_> | is there a wat to check what cpu's i got on cli? |
| 09:39 | <Zathraz> | dondelelcaro, please try as root: 'sudo - www-data -s /usr/bin/bash' then check the user with 'whois' then issue 'sudo -u postgres ls'. You would expect a directory listing is sudo was setup correctly, however I get the request to enter a password |
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| 09:39 | <Zathraz> | so as systemuser A I cannot become systemuser B even though sudo is configured correctly |
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| 09:40 | <Zathraz> | *euh: 'su - www-data -s /usr/bin/bash' of course |
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| 09:40 | <Zathraz> | to become user www-data (a system user) |
| 09:40 | <damiano> | ls -s /etc/apache2/mods-available/ssl.conf ssl.conf |
| 09:40 | <damiano> | is this correct? |
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| 09:40 | <Zathraz> | damiano, ls --help |
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| 09:40 | <Zathraz> | *ln |
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| 09:42 | <dondelelcaro> | Zathraz: uh... you're missing NOPASSWD: if you're getting a password prompt. |
| 09:42 | <damiano> | ops |
| 09:42 | <pringao> | hi there, what do you recomend to have kernels > 2.6.26 in squeeze? (using .deb if possible) thx |
| 09:42 | <damiano> | ln |
| 09:42 | <Zathraz> | nope. It's there in sudoers |
| 09:42 | <damiano> | yes |
| 09:42 | <damiano> | :D |
| 09:43 | <dondelelcaro> | Zathraz: what is the precise command that you're using and what is the sudo -l; output for that user? |
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| 09:45 | <dondelelcaro> | (obviously here, sudo -u www-data sudo -u postgres -l; isn't going to work because www-data can't sudo to postgres, and certainly not without a password) |
| 09:46 | <dondelelcaro> | and allowing www-data to sudo to anything is kind of busted, too |
| 09:47 | <rjent> | why do I get premission denied when attempting to write to a ntfs partition? I have it mounted in rw |
| 09:47 | <Zathraz> | dondelelcaro, http://paste.debian.net/42287/ |
| 09:47 | <azeem_> | rjent: you try to write as root? |
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| 09:47 | <rjent> | azeem_: yes |
| 09:48 | <rjent> | I can see the drive but can not write |
| 09:48 | <rjent> | I can copy files off but not back on |
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| 09:48 | <Zathraz> | dondelelcaro, busted or not: it is what I need in this special case |
| 09:48 | <Zathraz> | rjent, try to mount it with ntfs-3g as type |
| 09:48 | <damiano> | i have a strange problem..... I set up mod_ssl but when i visit https://www.example.com It sill not working |
| 09:49 | <damiano> | what can i do? |
| 09:49 | <Zathraz> | rjent, ntfs writing remains tricky |
| 09:49 | <damiano> | i don't get an https invalid certificate error |
| 09:49 | <damiano> | i can't connect to the website |
| 09:49 | <damiano> | what cn i do? |
| 09:49 | <rjent> | Zathraz: ok I will try. be back in a mom |
| 09:50 | <damiano> | ? |
| 09:50 | <XayOn> | damiano: stop it. |
| 09:50 | <damiano> | what? |
| 09:51 | <dondelelcaro> | Zathraz: yes, and as you can see from the sudo -l; output, you can't run anything as the postgres user |
| 09:51 | <XayOn> | damiano: You can't come here, writing things in hundred of lines, thinking that we've got the duty to help you, and even without giving us info. As you've seen, noone answers you, because you haven't done any smart question. |
| 09:52 | <XayOn> | damiano: If you can't connect, server is down, that's all we know from your info... |
| 09:52 | <Zathraz> | dondelelcaro, sudo -l for user postgres is identical to the user on the pastebin |
| 09:52 | <dondelelcaro> | Zathraz: (root) NOPASSWD: /etc/bacula/extra-scripts/* should read (postgres) NOPASSWD: [yada yada]; and sudo -u postgres "/etc/bacula/extra-scrip*t*s/bacula-psql_make_database_backup" |
| 09:52 | <XayOn> | damiano: have you read apache documentation? (I suppose for mod_ssl you use apache, as you haven't even said that) |
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| 09:53 | <dondelelcaro> | Zathraz: uh... that's not right either. What does your /etc/sudoers look like? Only the bacula use should be able to do that, not all users. |
| 09:53 | <damiano> | XayOn: the server is running...i can connect to www.example.com but i can't connect to https://www.exmaple.com |
| 09:53 | <dondelelcaro> | (I'm sensing that you're going to need to spend some time with man sudoers; before going too much further) |
| 09:53 | <damiano> | XayOn: I've loaded mod_ssl |
| 09:53 | <XayOn> | so you just misconfigured something with mod_ssl... |
| 09:53 | <damiano> | XayOn: in /etc/apache2/mod-enabled |
| 09:54 | <damiano> | i haven't touched ssl configuration |
| 09:54 | <Zathraz> | dondelelcaro, only those two users are defined like that in sudo |
| 09:54 | <XayOn> | damiano: just enabling the module doesn't do anything, you have to configure it, please, again, read the fucking docs. Seriously. |
| 09:54 | <damiano> | XayOn: ok. but is it possible to check if apache(ssl) is running? |
| 09:55 | <dondelelcaro> | Zathraz: ok; then you still have the two problems that I already mentioned. |
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| 09:55 | <dondelelcaro> | Zathraz: 1) you're only allowing bacula to sudo to the user root, not postgres, 2) you're missing a t. |
| 09:56 | <damiano> | XayOn: ? |
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| 09:56 | <XayOn> | damiano: if you can't connect, is not working... |
| 09:57 | <damiano> | XayOn: but to the HTTP yes |
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| 09:58 | <XayOn> | damiano: netstat -l -n|grep 443 |
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| 09:59 | <damiano> | HMMM |
| 09:59 | <damiano> | nothing |
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| 10:00 | <damiano> | strange...there aren't results |
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| 10:01 | <XayOn> | damiano: Fuck you, it's not strange, I've already told you, you have to configure apache, stop molesting other people cause you don't want to work. |
| 10:01 | <XayOn> | damiano: Just enabling mod_ssl doesn't do anything, as I said, you told you haven't touched configuration, how the hell can that work? |
| 10:01 | <azeem_> | XayOn: please drop the ad hominems |
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| 10:02 | <XayOn> | azeem_: ad hominems? |
| 10:02 | <azeem_> | 16:01 < XayOn> damiano: Fuck you |
| 10:02 | <ant_> | bad language? |
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| 10:02 | <bike> | can anybody tell me of 24-4 mb/s is slow for a laptop drive? |
| 10:02 | <bike> | 24.4 |
| 10:02 | <ant_> | depends on the laptop and drive... |
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| 10:03 | <ant_> | doesnt sound fast, but for a low power laptop probably reasonable |
| 10:03 | <bike> | well, i've soldiered some on the converter which was broken so im wonderig |
| 10:03 | <bike> | using 44<>40 |
| 10:03 | <bike> | it preforms ok , cant really complain there |
| 10:03 | <XayOn> | azeem_: If you're referring to latin, I think you and wikipedia have completly diferent definitions for it. |
| 10:03 | <bike> | but it seems a tad slow , but then again it is ide |
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| 10:04 | <azeem_> | XayOn: I think you understood me anyway |
| 10:05 | <XayOn> | azeem_: I don't like being molested, just that. I already told him to stop. I told him a hundred of times to read docs, I'm not being payed for that, he probably is. |
| 10:06 | <ant_> | XayOn, then stop replying to him |
| 10:06 | <azeem_> | XayOn: so just move on; don't abuse users |
| 10:06 | <XayOn> | Even with that, he still called my nick. |
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| 10:07 | <ant_> | try ignoring him |
| 10:08 | <ant_> | im not saying his behaviour is right, but we can do without swearing |
| 10:08 | <XayOn> | I've got a sound bell, and I need to have it. |
| 10:08 | <XayOn> | did you mean /ignore ? |
| 10:08 | <azeem_> | XayOn: look, it's unacceptable to say "Fuck you" or "stop molesting me" to users; if you cannot deal otherwise, maybe you should reconsider doing Debian support |
| 10:08 | <vvas> | bike: 4200rpm drives tend to be quite slow |
| 10:09 | <vvas> | bike: i would imagine that if there was something wrong with the connector it wouldn't work at all, or it would have *massive* slowdowns |
| 10:09 | <XayOn> | azeem_: I'm a debian user also, and I wasn't giving support, I just told him once to read documentation, and he started molesting me. |
| 10:09 | <bike> | true , bit theres also the issue of timing and impedance |
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| 10:10 | <XayOn> | Maybe my new ring tone has something to do with my bad mood, it's a matrix-like phone ring... it sounds everytime someone calls my name. |
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| 10:10 | <azeem_> | XayOn: actually, on review, you starting molesting him first |
| 10:10 | <azeem_> | unless there was a back story to this |
| 10:11 | <XayOn> | azeem_: right now, I'm lost. |
| 10:11 | <ant_> | I wouldn't put blame either way, but both could have dealt with it better |
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| 10:12 | <vvas> | briefly examining the scrollback, i concur with azeem_ |
| 10:12 | <vvas> | but can we move on? |
| 10:12 | <XayOn> | maybe, lately I don't have much patience with new debian users... But less with sysadmins that can't even read docs... |
| 10:12 | <XayOn> | s/new// |
| 10:12 | <azeem_> | XayOn: and we don't have much patience with users molesting other users or calling them names |
| 10:12 | <dr|z3d> | XayOn: Then here's probably not the best place to be :) |
| 10:12 | <azeem_> | XayOn: so be warned, and move on now |
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| 10:16 | <XayOn> | azeem_: is that a threat? don't worry, I left on my own. I really thing debian comunity don't interest me anymore, almost user community, has its degradation has come to this limits. I mean, if someone give and advice to other, it doesn't mean it gives the other the right to start indiscriminately asking to that person. |
| 10:16 | <XayOn> | bye, azeem_ ant_ dr|z3d |
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| 10:16 | <Aceinthehole> | good riddance. |
| 10:16 | <Hannofcart> | wow, he seemed pissed |
| 10:17 | <vvas> | you have to admire some people's capacity for drama |
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| 10:17 | <Hannofcart> | with just text that too ... really amazing |
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| 10:17 | <Gekz_> | I want English some moar pl0x. |
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| 10:21 | <Vyrus001> | for some reason only my debian version of subversion will not connect to any server (could not connect to server (foobar)), whats up? |
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| 10:21 | <adb> | Vyrus001: a bug in subversion ? |
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| 10:22 | <Vyrus001> | adb: works in other versions |
| 10:22 | <rw_> | When I boot Lenny, I always have to turn of numlock and turn it back on before it will accept input. Anyone know a fix? |
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| 10:23 | <Gekz_> | rw_: it's an annoying linux thing that I've never googled |
| 10:23 | <Gekz_> | but would also like the answer to |
| 10:23 | <Gekz_> | lo |
| 10:24 | <rw_> | I don't know if it matters, but I did a netinstall and running fluxbox |
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| 10:26 | <olet> | you can use numlockx in your .xsession to turn it on |
| 10:26 | <olet> | (that was @rw_) |
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| 10:28 | <_spOOn_> | could you not just use setleds in your rc.local? |
| 10:28 | <_spOOn_> | and do it for all your ttys on boot? |
| 10:29 | <Gekz_> | _spOOn_: really? |
| 10:29 | <_spOOn_> | i would try for i in 1 2 3 4 5 6; do |
| 10:29 | <olet> | well x resets it when it starts |
| 10:29 | <_spOOn_> | /usr/bin/setleds +num < /dev/tty${i} > /dev/null |
| 10:29 | <_spOOn_> | done |
| 10:30 | <_spOOn_> | ah i see |
| 10:30 | <olet> | because i fixed it for ttys as well :) |
| 10:30 | <Gekz_> | yeah, as did I apparently |
| 10:30 | <_spOOn_> | fair enough |
| 10:30 | <Gekz_> | checked my configs lol |
| 10:30 | <olet> | and x didn't listen :) |
| 10:30 | <rw_> | i'll give it a shot |
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| 10:31 | <_spOOn_> | then numlockx is probably the way to go |
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| 10:32 | <vvas> | Launchpad was just opensourced today, nice |
| 10:33 | <Gekz_> | this doesnt affect most of us |
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| 10:35 | <jthomas_sb_> | vvas still good to hear, even if i don't use any of the company's products |
| 10:35 | <jthomas_sb_> | but was it Freed or just open sourced? |
| 10:36 | <rjent> | Zathraz: hurray! The ntfs-3g worked perfect! |
| 10:36 | <Zathraz> | cool |
| 10:36 | <Zathraz> | I solved my own issue too |
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| 10:38 | <vvas> | Affero GPLv3, apparently |
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| 10:43 | <rjent> | Zathraz: thanks for your assistance |
| 10:43 | <Zathraz> | np |
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| 10:44 | <sylar> | I have some user owned processes that I can't kill not even as root |
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| 10:45 | <sylar> | anyone knows how to kill them? |
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| 10:45 | <Zathraz> | kill -9 does not do the trick? |
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| 10:46 | <sylar> | no |
| 10:47 | <sylar> | STAT is D |
| 10:47 | <adb> | killall -e name |
| 10:47 | <sylar> | TTY is ? |
| 10:47 | <sylar> | adb did killall -u username |
| 10:47 | <sylar> | adb, did nothing |
| 10:47 | <vvas> | ugh, if they're in uninterruptible sleep (the "D") there's not much you can do i'm afraid |
| 10:48 | <sylar> | vvas, so ... I must reboot the server? |
| 10:49 | <vvas> | unless you figure out what brought them into that state (check the kernel logs) and manage to resolve that, then yes |
| 10:50 | <vvas> | or you could simply ignore them of course |
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| 10:50 | <sylar> | I can't ignore them, they are occupying an important resource, and everything else that try to access it hangs |
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| 10:57 | <handjob> | Good morning gentleman. I've got this problem - my 'lenny' recognizes my native (not english as you may guess from my spelling) fonts yet i the shortcuts to make letters specyfic for my country does not work. How can i set it 'right'? |
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| 11:08 | <diego> | hi, I have this weird idea ... suppose I cannot open ports in my computer but there are some things that will work (like ICMP, as pinging) ... and I would like to enable ssh (but my computer on the other side should start the connection somehow) |
| 11:09 | <diego> | and some stuff as ICMP is the only way to |
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| 11:09 | <diego> | get to my computer |
| 11:10 | <xsbyme> | hello all i'm new to debian and trying to install yum but its not installing eny packages at all |
| 11:10 | <diego> | yum is fedora / redhat |
| 11:10 | <Zathraz> | xsbyme, yum is for suse |
| 11:10 | <diego> | ?? |
| 11:10 | <jackyf> | ehehe |
| 11:10 | <fmr> | xsbyme: use aptitutde |
| 11:10 | <Zathraz> | euh fedore/rh |
| 11:10 | <fmr> | xsbyme: use aptitude |
| 11:10 | <diego> | aptitude install alien |
| 11:10 | <diego> | and then you can convert rpm to deb |
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| 11:11 | <fmr> | xsbyme: you can try too install synaptic too for a gui packages installer |
| 11:11 | <Zathraz> | better to use native debs.... |
| 11:11 | <xsbyme> | eny body know a good packet manager with the same options than yum like grouplist install etc |
| 11:12 | <fmr> | xsbyme: have you read me ? |
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| 11:12 | <Zathraz> | yum is a rip-off of debian tools..... |
| 11:12 | <Zathraz> | so: aptitude |
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| 11:12 | <diego> | hey, anyone knows how to solve my problem :) |
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| 11:12 | <diego> | all incoming ports filtered |
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| 11:13 | <diego> | but you can reach my computer with ICMP for example |
| 11:13 | <diego> | how to enable ssh making my computer do the connection in a safe way |
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| 11:13 | <dr|z3d> | diego: Open up port 22 tcp inbound. |
| 11:13 | <diego> | no, isp will filter all incoming connections |
| 11:14 | <dr|z3d> | Ah, I see. |
| 11:14 | <diego> | my computer should start the connection |
| 11:14 | <diego> | but you can reach my computer with some other methods like icmp ... or may be others |
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| 11:14 | <dr|z3d> | In which case, use a vpn. I recommend hamachi.. easy to setup, especially if you grab ghamachi also. http://hamachi.cc |
| 11:14 | <Zathraz> | maybe an external trusted proxy server? |
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| 11:14 | <Aceinthehole> | have you asked your isp to lift the filter? |
| 11:14 | <xsbyme> | fmr yes its installed atm |
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| 11:15 | <diego> | they wont do that hehe , but the proxy / vpn seems a good one |
| 11:15 | <Aceinthehole> | bad isp :( :( :( |
| 11:15 | <diego> | so, if I connect to any computer in the vpn, I will be able to connect to my computer I guess |
| 11:15 | <Zathraz> | normally they are just keen on port 25 |
| 11:15 | <diego> | yeah, normally is just 25 and 53 |
| 11:16 | <Aceinthehole> | and 80 for outgoing |
| 11:16 | <dr|z3d> | diego: You run hamachi on server and client. |
| 11:16 | <dr|z3d> | diego: That gives you an internal 5.x.x.x ip on both server and client. |
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| 11:16 | <diego> | thx, I will look at that :) |
| 11:16 | <dr|z3d> | Then you connect to that as you would a normal connection. Dead easy, secure. |
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| 11:17 | <dr|z3d> | hamachi is also cross platform, so.. |
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| 11:17 | <Casnik> | Hello , I am looking for a complete set of .iso for debian 3.1 and 4.0 anyone know? |
| 11:18 | <Casnik> | all the debian mirrors all just have files that are non existant |
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| 11:18 | <vvas> | dr|z3d: it's also decisively non-free |
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| 11:19 | <Aceinthehole> | Casnik http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive.en.html doesn't have what you need? |
| 11:19 | <Casnik> | didn't |
| 11:20 | <Casnik> | I tried a few of the mirrors and they were bum |
| 11:20 | <bcstech> | i am having trouble getting my passphrase to convert to hex in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 11:20 | <Casnik> | but I'll try them all if that is the only place |
| 11:20 | <vvas> | Casnik: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
| 11:20 | <Casnik> | tried that |
| 11:20 | <Casnik> | no go vvas |
| 11:20 | <vvas> | and it's missing what exactly? |
| 11:20 | <Aceinthehole> | Casnik: I'm not sure what else to try ... maybe someone else? |
| 11:20 | <Casnik> | i386 , debian 3.1 and 4.0 |
| 11:20 | <bcstech> | i used a converter from passphrase to hex but no go |
| 11:21 | <Casnik> | I need the full installs for incogneto |
| 11:21 | <bcstech> | wpa is what in iwconfig wlan0 key |
| 11:21 | <vvas> | Casnik: no it's not |
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| 11:21 | <vvas> | Casnik: unless you're looking at r0 rather than r8 |
| 11:21 | <adb> | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/3.1_r8/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 11:22 | <adb> | Casnik: ^^ |
| 11:22 | <adb> | same for all 4.0 |
| 11:22 | <vvas> | bcstech: why would you need to convert it to hex? |
| 11:22 | <FilipeMaia> | I have a strange problem. I can fdisk /dev/sde and sde1 shows up there but there is no /dev/sde1 even though there is a /dev/sde |
| 11:22 | <FilipeMaia> | what should i do/ |
| 11:23 | <Casnik> | adb: thanks that's it |
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| 11:23 | <Casnik> | vvas: yup |
| 11:23 | <bcstech> | it said passphrase is not supported in the man pages |
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| 11:23 | <Casnik> | vvas: was looking at all but r8 |
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| 11:23 | <Casnik> | thanks =) |
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| 11:24 | <vvas> | n/p |
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| 11:24 | <bcstech> | it wanted hex or ACSII string |
| 11:24 | <vvas> | FilipeMaia: did you just create this partition? |
| 11:24 | <bcstech> | it has to link to my wireless encryption |
| 11:25 | <bcstech> | which is wpa aes |
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| 11:26 | <gsimmons> | bcstech: For WPA, you would want to use 'wpa-psk' in /etc/network/interfaces instead; /msg dpkg wpa |
| 11:27 | <bcstech> | so in the /etc/network/interfaces i put wireless-key (hex) |
| 11:27 | <bcstech> | do i put wireless-wpa-psk (passphrase)? |
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| 11:29 | <gsimmons> | bcstech: No, the iface option is wpa-psk, not wireless-wpa-psk. |
| 11:29 | <filsuf> | where am I? debian? |
| 11:29 | <filsuf> | what server is this? |
| 11:30 | <filsuf> | freenode? |
| 11:30 | <vvas> | filsuf, this is #debian on irc.debian.org |
| 11:30 | <filsuf> | oh |
| 11:30 | <filsuf> | bye |
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| 11:30 | <bcstech> | so iface wlan0 inet wpa-psk? |
| 11:30 | <vvas> | !tell bcstech about wpa |
| 11:30 | <bigeasy> | vvas: this is actually oftc |
| 11:31 | <vvas> | ah |
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| 11:33 | <el_isma> | Hello. If I install debian with http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ , how will it install? Will it create a partition for Debian or will it just create a file on the Win partition like Wubi does? |
| 11:33 | <bcstech> | it says it cant read it |
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| 11:41 | <Sl4ck> | Salve a tutti |
| 11:41 | <dr|z3d> | !it |
| 11:41 | <dpkg> | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
| 11:41 | <FilipeMaia> | vvas, no it's old |
| 11:41 | <Sl4ck> | ok sorry |
| 11:41 | <Sl4ck> | bye |
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| 11:43 | <vvas> | FilipeMaia: that's strange then. is it a standard PC partition table? what does dmesg say for it? |
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| 12:02 | <chaos> | i'm trying to boot my debian for the first time after installing it with debootstrap ...it booted half way through but i'm "waiting for root file system ..." :( |
| 12:02 | <chaos> | last two lines on the console: |
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| 12:02 | <chaos> | Begin: Mounting root file system ... Begin: Running /scripts/local-top ... done. |
| 12:02 | <chaos> | Begin: Waiting for root file system ... |
| 12:02 | <chaos> | oh yay .. i have a console! |
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| 12:04 | <BigR> | hey guys does airodump-ng see hidden SSID's |
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| 12:04 | <dr|z3d> | BigR: No. But Kismet might. |
| 12:05 | <dr|z3d> | Or rather, airodump doesn't sniff, does it? |
| 12:06 | <BigR> | dr | z3d: i dont know, kismet doesnt feel like working with either my cards |
| 12:06 | <dr|z3d> | BigR: You need kismet client and kismet server to make it do the magic. |
| 12:06 | <chealer> | el_isma: it does both in time. it uses the Windows partition to install d-i, then d-i creates partitions |
| 12:07 | <el_isma> | chealer: ah. So afterwards I'll have a properly installed Debian |
| 12:07 | <dr|z3d> | In kismet terms, I think the server's called the drone.. might be wrong there, been a while.. |
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| 12:08 | <el_isma> | chealer: the site lacks documentation... It's biggest docs is wikipedia :S |
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| 12:08 | <BigR> | dr | z3d: how do i start the client? |
| 12:08 | <chealer> | el_isma: yes, the resulting Debian partitions should be indistinguishable from those created with classic install methods |
| 12:08 | <el_isma> | thank you chealer! |
| 12:09 | <dr|z3d> | BigR: Read the docs. It's not point, click, voila. |
| 12:10 | <BigR> | dr | z3d: yeah u right i am a noob at kismet |
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| 12:11 | <Kingstone> | hey guys, do you know where i can ask about libapt? on which channel |
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| 12:12 | <milk> | how does one get a HP LaserJet P1005 to work with Lenny? From what I have see it just wont work at all.... |
| 12:13 | <Zathraz> | milk, check cups |
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| 12:15 | <milk> | cups is fine, something to do with hplip being very out of date on Lenny is my guess. when I print a test page cups or hplip, it says the job has completed, but the printer just sits there doing nothing |
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| 12:16 | <Zathraz> | try another backend? |
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| 12:16 | <milk> | other than cups? |
| 12:16 | <bja> | milk: lan or usb |
| 12:16 | <milk> | usb |
| 12:16 | <Zathraz> | cups can use different backend |
| 12:17 | <milk> | there hplip, alternatively, there is hplip |
| 12:18 | <Zathraz> | http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_P1005 |
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| 12:20 | <Zathraz> | milk, http://blog.o-x-t.com/2008/12/21/setting-up-hp-laserjet-p1005-on-debian-lenny/ |
| 12:22 | <milk> | yep |
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| 12:22 | <milk> | giving it a try |
| 12:22 | <chealer> | Kingstone: this one |
| 12:23 | <milk> | nup |
| 12:23 | <milk> | doesnt work |
| 12:23 | <milk> | hang on |
| 12:23 | <milk> | yes |
| 12:23 | <milk> | success |
| 12:23 | <milk> | ta |
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| 12:24 | <vvas> | what was the problem then? |
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| 12:25 | <milk> | I found that page before, I need to learn how to follow instructions properly |
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| 12:26 | <milk> | was trying to do it all via the menu system, I needed to open a terminal and run hp-setup as it said.... |
| 12:26 | <milk> | thanks for your help |
| 12:26 | <chaos> | hmm |
| 12:26 | <chaos> | i have a prompt like this: (initramfs): |
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| 12:26 | <chaos> | that sounds bad, right? |
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| 12:26 | <chaos> | hey magyar_ do you speak magyar? |
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| 12:27 | <sney> | my fiancee's family is hungarian. that is one crazy ass language |
| 12:27 | <vvas> | chaos: yes, it probably means that the kernel couldn't mount the root partition or something |
| 12:27 | <magyar_> | chaos, sure |
| 12:27 | <chaos> | you're just envious of our beautiful language :P |
| 12:28 | <chaos> | vvas: and how do i get to fixing that? :s |
| 12:28 | <vvas> | no idea |
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| 12:29 | <sney> | they did teach me to make paprikas, though. so I have no problems with them. |
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| 12:29 | <chaos> | paprikas chicken? |
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| 12:29 | <sney> | ya |
| 12:29 | <sney> | they just called it paprikas, though I guess since that just means "with paprika" or something it would make sense to specify |
| 12:30 | <chaos> | yep |
| 12:30 | <dr|z3d> | Hungarian national vegetable. Or something. |
| 12:31 | <sney> | it's made from red peppers |
| 12:31 | <chaos> | well that's not quite true |
| 12:31 | <chaos> | anyway .. if i'm stuck with this (initramfs) crap .. how do i figure out what partitions it can see? |
| 12:31 | <bja> | sney: A specific variety of red peppers, there are around 1000 varietys of them |
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| 12:32 | <sney> | only 1000? I would have guessed more. |
| 12:32 | <Kingstone> | chealer, ok, i'm using libapt-pkg and i want to get a list of installed packages with their versions, i know how to get the packages list, but how do i check if a package installed and its version? |
| 12:33 | <sney> | chaos: it would depend on the kernel the initramfs is attached to, and what sort of disk controllers it understands without a module |
| 12:33 | <chaos> | it really is a bitch to buy paprika in .hu :) yellow / red / green .. large / small ... spicy / not spicy .... and let's not start talking about shapes :s |
| 12:33 | <sney> | I think. |
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| 12:33 | <chaos> | sney: 2.6.26-2-686 |
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| 12:34 | <sney> | hmm and you just get this initramfs: prompt when you try to boot? is there anything unusual about your system? |
| 12:34 | <chaos> | no fdisk or cfdisk :( |
| 12:34 | <chealer> | Kingstone: what are you doing? you know you can do that with apt-show-ersions? |
| 12:35 | <Kingstone> | i need it in an application |
| 12:35 | <chaos> | sney: yes it's the very first time debian booted after i installed it with debootstrap from fedora |
| 12:35 | <Kingstone> | no command line tool |
| 12:35 | <Kingstone> | only code |
| 12:35 | <Kingstone> | i code in c++ of course |
| 12:35 | <chaos> | i thought you could call progs from c++ |
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| 12:36 | <sney> | hrmm. there's no man page for initramfs but my thinking is that you got a partial install somehow, and your initramfs isn't all there. so it hangs as it tries to mount it, and kicks back out to a prompt |
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| 12:36 | <enouf> | Kingstone: wait ... are you aware of grep-dctrl and dctrl-tools? |
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| 12:37 | <vvas> | Kingstone: i doubt you'll find people in here that are familiar with libapt, you're probably better off looking for documentation |
| 12:37 | <enouf> | Kingstone: i use; grep-status -FStatus -sPackage,Version -n "install ok installed" | paste -sd " \n" | sort | less |
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| 12:38 | <sney> | chaos: if it's a local system I would suggest booting with a livecd and poking around the debian file structure to see if anything is amiss |
| 12:38 | <enouf> | Kingstone: not sure if that helps; but seems to accomplish the info you seek? |
| 12:39 | <sney> | initrd images should be about 6.8MB |
| 12:39 | <chaos> | sney: not local :( i'm installing on a box several thousand kms away |
| 12:39 | <sney> | oof |
| 12:39 | <vvas> | chaos: i would try booting without the "quiet" option |
| 12:39 | <sney> | yes, that might give you more informmation |
| 12:39 | <chaos> | thx |
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| 12:39 | <chaos> | i'll try |
| 12:39 | <Kingstone> | hi enouf |
| 12:39 | <enouf> | hi |
| 12:40 | <Kingstone> | the problem is i'm not using a BSDish platform |
| 12:40 | <Kingstone> | but it's not anything regular |
| 12:40 | <enouf> | uff |
| 12:40 | <Kingstone> | and i don't want to build other tools for it |
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| 12:40 | <el_isma_> | I'm trying to install Debian on my netbook and the d-i insists on using wifi... how do I convince it to go wired? |
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| 12:40 | <Kingstone> | do you know documention of libapt? |
| 12:40 | <enouf> | el_isma_: erm .. read the installation guide? |
| 12:41 | <chaos> | does a 3ware hardware raid need any special driver in debian? |
| 12:41 | <vvas> | Kingstone: package libapt-pkg-doc? |
| 12:41 | <el_isma_> | enouf: which one? |
| 12:41 | <enouf> | Kingstone: not offhand -- perhaps "/msg dpkg nmg" might help |
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| 12:42 | <enouf> | vvas: i seem to also have libapt-pkg-perl: /usr/share/doc and some docs _and_ man pages installed |
| 12:42 | <enouf> | and Kingstone |
| 12:42 | <Kingstone> | yes? |
| 12:42 | <enouf> | el_isma_: the one for your port (ARCh) |
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| 12:43 | <Kingstone> | i did know a way of getting it, it's just on the new version of my libapt, it's now difference, and anyway i try, it crashes |
| 12:43 | <el_isma_> | enouf: ARCh? it's an i386. All I've got is http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch06s03.html#di-setup and basically it says "it will work" |
| 12:43 | <enouf> | Kingstone: install libapt-pkg-perl as well - though, you mentioned c/c++ , AIUI, APT is based on perl mostly? |
| 12:43 | <Kingstone> | but i've seen other apps that work with it.. |
| 12:43 | <enouf> | perhaps not |
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| 12:43 | <Kingstone> | i'll try, thx |
| 12:43 | <vvas> | enouf: not really |
| 12:43 | <enouf> | as syntax for /etc/apt/apt.conf seems to be c++ based? i don't know |
| 12:44 | <enouf> | perhaps dpkg is more the perl based one? |
| 12:45 | <enouf> | el_isma_: see Boot Paramters |
| 12:45 | <enouf> | el_isma_: Chapter 5 or 6 or so |
| 12:45 | <Kingstone> | i want to defer from using things other than libapt because it's the most accurate |
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| 12:45 | <enouf> | d-i netcfg/ and such |
| 12:45 | <Kingstone> | for the disclosure, i build on iphone |
| 12:46 | <enouf> | cool |
| 12:46 | <enouf> | send me one :-) |
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| 12:46 | <Kingstone> | heh |
| 12:46 | <Kingstone> | i have only one |
| 12:46 | <enouf> | Kingstone: i'll test it! .. i promise! |
| 12:46 | <enouf> | uff |
| 12:47 | <vvas> | enouf: dpkg is C-based, apt is C++-based |
| 12:47 | <Kingstone> | there is a APT port for iphone, called telesphoreo, just some guy who compiled all libapt packages for ARM |
| 12:47 | <enouf> | el_isma_: also note; the f1-f10 key info .. perhaps use 'expert/expertgui' |
| 12:47 | <davi> | After "apt-get update" no more suspend RAM? |
| 12:47 | <Kingstone> | the fact is, millions of people around the world use his binaries |
| 12:47 | <enouf> | vvas: ugh -- where's the perl!? |
| 12:48 | <enouf> | vvas: actually - sorry, not 'ugh' C is fast |
| 12:48 | <Kingstone> | and my application is using that as well, it's just he updated to a newer version, and i don't want any conflicts |
| 12:48 | <vvas> | enouf: no idea, you tell me :^) |
| 12:48 | <Kingstone> | so i try and upgrade my source to the new version, just it changed in that cache part and packages list |
| 12:48 | <enouf> | vvas: heh |
| 12:48 | <Kingstone> | and it always seems to crash |
| 12:48 | <Kingstone> | i can't get a hold of the guy, if i could, i'll ask him |
| 12:48 | <chaos> | chroot /mnt/deb /usr/bin/env -i HOME=/root TERM=$TERM PS1='\u:\w\$ ' PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin /bin/bash --login <-- after executing this i am 100% running the new debian mounted in /mnt/deb? |
| 12:48 | <Kingstone> | it suppose to be no different than regular libapt |
| 12:49 | <chaos> | like can i make a new kernel? |
| 12:49 | <enouf> | Kingstone: have you followed p.d.o and it's dev pages? |
| 12:49 | <chaos> | install packages? |
| 12:49 | <enouf> | and changelogs? |
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| 12:49 | <enouf> | chaos: you tell us |
| 12:50 | <enouf> | chaos: the PS1 bit isn't even relevant |
| 12:50 | <Kingstone> | i shall look in changelogs now, thx, i'll research a bit more |
| 12:51 | <chaos> | enouf: i'm not in the mood ... if i fuck up my only working system on that box i'll be screwed i have to 100% sure i won't |
| 12:51 | <enouf> | chaos: and HOME=root seems only mandatory if you desire to be in /root/ after chroot -- know about "schroot" ? |
| 12:51 | <enouf> | chaos: then run each command separately and compare ... printenv should be useful |
| 12:52 | <enouf> | chaos: for correct PATH= see /etc/profile and perhaps /etc/login.defs for SU PATH, etc |
| 12:53 | <Kingstone> | enouf, http://packages.debian.org/sid/libapt-pkg-dev, do you know where can i see a changelog |
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| 12:53 | <Kingstone> | oh lol nvm |
| 12:53 | <enouf> | follow the links? |
| 12:53 | <enouf> | heh |
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| 12:54 | <vvas> | chaos, once you chroot you chroot, so yeah you're inside the debian system (assuming it resides in /mnt/deb) |
| 12:54 | <chaos> | thx |
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| 12:55 | <Vyrus001> | ok seriously... wtf is up with debians version of subversion? it wont connect to anything |
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| 12:56 | <enouf> | chaos: yes, as mentioned, once you exec 'chroot' use ls, and other things to check it out |
| 12:56 | <vvas> | Vyrus001: works for me |
| 12:57 | <Vyrus001> | vvas: u on squeese? |
| 12:57 | <vvas> | sid actually |
| 12:57 | <Vyrus001> | hm |
| 12:57 | <Vyrus001> | i read something about a bug where ya had to get the sid version of svn in order to get it to work |
| 12:57 | <Vyrus001> | wonder if thats the deal |
| 12:58 | <enouf> | judd: versions svn |
| 12:58 | <judd> | enouf: svn -- |
| 12:58 | <enouf> | judd: versions subversion |
| 12:58 | <judd> | enouf: subversion -- etch: 1.4.2dfsg1-2 etch-backports: 1.5.1dfsg1-1~bpo40+1 lenny: 1.5.1dfsg1-2 squeeze: 1.5.6dfsg-1 experimental: 1.6.1dfsg-1 sid: 1.6.3dfsg-1 |
| 12:58 | <Vyrus001> | svn, version 1.5.6 (r36142) compiled Feb 26 2009, 03:03:58 |
| 12:58 | <enouf> | yeah, diffs |
| 12:59 | <enouf> | you should monitor BTS and check therte |
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| 13:02 | <vvas> | hm, hadn't realised 1.6 was out |
| 13:02 | <vvas> | wonder what's new about it |
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| 13:03 | <Vyrus001> | yea apperantly libneon is fuxxored |
| 13:03 | <Vyrus001> | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491839 |
| 13:04 | <Vyrus001> | well this kinda sucks... this is a work production box... rather not start merging sid packages |
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| 13:06 | <vvas> | ah, an incompatibility with the kernel then? |
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| 13:08 | <themill> | Vyrus001: err... you've already moved away from stable on that production box |
| 13:09 | <vvas> | Vyrus001: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=529920 |
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| 13:10 | <Vyrus001> | themill: lol when i say stable i mean working ;) |
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| 13:10 | <vvas> | Vyrus001: the bug reports seem to suggest that upgrading the kernel to 2.6.29+ should fix it too |
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| 13:10 | <themill> | Vyrus001: lenny doesn't have this problem. Lenny is well tested. That's why stable is recommended for production use |
| 13:11 | <vvas> | and my impression is that 2.6.30 is the highest quality kernel release we've seen in a while |
| 13:12 | <Vyrus001> | ditto on that one.. home box is 6.30 |
| 13:12 | <chaos> | how about 2.6.30.2? |
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| 13:13 | <vvas> | chaos: it's the same as 2.6.30 with only minor fixes added (so ever slightly better) |
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| 13:13 | <chaos> | cool |
| 13:13 | * | chaos is hoping that a new kernel will solve his problem |
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| 13:15 | <vvas> | chaos, it's best to identify what the problem actually *is*, instead of trying random solutions |
| 13:16 | <__rob__> | hello? |
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| 13:16 | <__rob__> | I'm pretty sure this is me and not xubuntu, I'm trying to find my second hdd and i don't know where to look, it's not in media or file system but i know xubuntu knows it's there because it shows in catfish as a search location. |
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| 13:21 | <chaos> | can i paste my grub.conf? |
| 13:21 | <chaos> | cos i don't think i have quiet in it anywhere |
| 13:22 | <dr|z3d> | pastebin it, sure. Not in here, chaos. |
| 13:22 | <dr|z3d> | !pastebin |
| 13:22 | <dpkg> | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Just use pastebinit (package) if you cannot cut & paste. |
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| 13:22 | <adb> | chaos: grep quiet /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 13:22 | <bcstech> | [ 1091.823244][ 1091.823244] wlan0: RX deauthentication from 00:23:69:12:4e:71 (reason=6) |
| 13:22 | <bcstech> | what does this mean |
| 13:22 | <chaos> | adb only the fedora's have quiet debian doesn't |
| 13:23 | <adb> | chaos: you lay man |
| 13:23 | <adb> | kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.30-bpo.1-686 root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet vga=791 |
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| 13:24 | <bcstech> | i need to know what to put in the /etc/network/interfaces inorder to have wpa on my wireless passcode looked at and a dhcp given |
| 13:24 | <chaos> | kernel <image> <root> ro <-- that's all i have <>s are descriptions |
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| 13:26 | <bcstech> | anyone here that can help me with this? |
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| 13:27 | <a> | dd |
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| 13:28 | <tfamioa> | a tfamioa blackxored fregl__ bcstech Spami|Thug HellDragon [numayeah] anto rC_Croft Vicci-27 geenna arw grochap t_caplette Kumool tuxwarrior gui el_isma_ amphi stefcc hever fregl_ magyar_ harfooz FairyCosmo dmz NCommander milk Bolle1961_ Kingstone judd Torsten_W patrikf Oyashiro Holborn Elessar_ beer yxoc Lethalman SQlvpapir buffoon_work Casnik faw fmr magu trebol6 dr|z3d drakeman scrp3l handjob Pitxyoki cobi24 elsimio jgarvey jthomas_sb_ Hann |
| 13:28 | <a> | hay |
| 13:28 | <tfamioa> | irc.freenode.net |
| 13:28 | <tfamioa> | #supremos |
| 13:28 | <jthomas_sb_> | tfamioa gee thanks |
| 13:28 | <tfamioa> | irc.freenode.net #supremos |
| 13:28 | <tfamioa> | irc.freenode.net #supremos |
| 13:28 | <tfamioa> | irc.freenode.net #supremos |
| 13:28 | <tfamioa> | irc.freenode.net #supremos |
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| 13:28 | <tfamioa> | irc.freenode.net #supremosirc.freenode.net #supremos |
| 13:28 | -!- | tfamioa was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use the paster bot or #flood] |
| 13:28 | <bcstech> | I am getting this in my dmesg when I ifup wlan0 |
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| 13:29 | <bcstech> | [ 1359.671968][ 1359.671968] wlan0: privacy configuration mismatch and mixed-cell disabled - disassociate |
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| 13:29 | <tfamioa> | irc.freenode.net #supremos |
| 13:29 | <locsmif> | tfamioa, /server 127.0.0.1 |
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| 13:29 | <tfamioa> | locsmif: I am not idiot like you |
| 13:29 | <tfamioa> | irc.freenode.net #supremos |
| 13:29 | <tfamioa> | irc.freenode.net #supremos |
| 13:29 | <tfamioa> | irc.freenode.net #supremos |
| 13:29 | <tfamioa> | irc.freenode.net #supremos |
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| 13:29 | <chaos> | yes you are |
| 13:29 | <locsmif> | yes you are an idiot like me! |
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| 13:30 | <mama21mama> | irc.freenode.net #supremos |
| 13:30 | <mama21mama> | irc.freenode.net #supremosirc.freenode.net #supremos |
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| 13:30 | <chaoticmass> | Debian Lenny: /dev/lp0 doesn't exist and I forgot how to add it... anyone remember off the top of their heads? Thanks in advance. |
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| 13:30 | <bcstech> | is this where i get help or get insulted? |
| 13:30 | <jthomas_sb_> | no kidding |
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| 13:30 | <locsmif> | bcstech, this is where you get help |
| 13:30 | <bcstech> | good |
| 13:31 | <bcstech> | [ 1359.671968][ 1359.671968] wlan0: privacy configuration mismatch and mixed-cell disabled - disassociate |
| 13:31 | <bcstech> | what does this mean in dmesg |
| 13:31 | <locsmif> | bcstech, weird message, never heard of it before |
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| 13:31 | <locsmif> | What are you trying to do? |
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| 13:31 | <bcstech> | hook wlan0 to wireless using wap |
| 13:32 | <bcstech> | i can do it without encryption |
| 13:32 | <locsmif> | wap? |
| 13:32 | <bcstech> | wap encryption |
| 13:32 | <locsmif> | WPA you mean? |
| 13:32 | <bcstech> | yes sorry |
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| 13:33 | <bcstech> | what do i put in the /etc/network/interfaces to tell it WPA |
| 13:33 | <locsmif> | Well I could ask you to paste your wpasupplicant config, but I don't want to know any sensitive info that might be in there |
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| 13:33 | <locsmif> | bcstech, that depends on how you configured your AP |
| 13:33 | <bcstech> | wireless-key s:(passphrase) |
| 13:33 | <bcstech> | wireless-ap bracken2 |
| 13:34 | <bcstech> | and it sees itt |
| 13:34 | <vvas> | bcstech, we've already told you that for WPA you need the wpa-* options and not the wireless-* options |
| 13:34 | <bcstech> | # The primary network interface |
| 13:34 | <bcstech> | allow-hotplug eth0 |
| 13:34 | <bcstech> | iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 13:34 | <bcstech> | allow-hotplug wlan0 |
| 13:34 | <bcstech> | iface wlan0 inet dhcp |
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| 13:37 | <locsmif> | Well, WPA problem solved :p |
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| 13:49 | <deniz> | how do i add the ID of my video card to an open source driver? (ive been told thats probably why the open source drivers do not pick up my ATI HD4850) |
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| 13:52 | <bcstech> | okay why did i get kicked off so I dont do i again? |
| 13:52 | <amphi> | flooding |
| 13:52 | <bremner> | deniz: did you check if radeonhd supports it? |
| 13:52 | <bcstech> | whats that? |
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| 13:53 | <amphi> | pasting several lines of stuff into the channel |
| 13:53 | <amphi> | !tell bcstech -about paste |
| 13:53 | <bcstech> | oh |
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| 13:54 | <bcstech> | paste in the chat line? |
| 13:54 | <valdyn> | deniz: picking up is not enough |
| 13:54 | <valdyn> | deniz: ask someone who can read C code to do it for you |
| 13:55 | <bcstech> | so what is the proper way to paste in here? |
| 13:55 | <valdyn> | bcstech: to not paste |
| 13:55 | <valdyn> | !paste |
| 13:55 | <dpkg> | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Just use pastebinit (package) if you cannot cut & paste. |
| 13:55 | <valdyn> | .. or any paste site |
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| 13:56 | <bcstech> | oh sorry i am new |
| 13:56 | <bcstech> | let me see what i can do |
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| 14:00 | <bcstech> | okay |
| 14:00 | <bcstech> | http://paste.debian.net |
| 14:01 | <bcstech> | under bcstech |
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| 14:02 | <bremner> | bcstech: you should get an actual url |
| 14:02 | <bcstech> | what do you mean |
| 14:02 | <tCzern> | hi, looking for some nice fluxbox themes but all I can find is the basic FLuxbox package, anything I should know of? Thanks! |
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| 14:02 | <deniz> | bremner, ill check now but i assumed it would work |
| 14:02 | <tCzern> | using etch |
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| 14:03 | <deniz> | bremner, ubuntu picks it up properly as of ubuntu 8.10 (same version drivers as lenny) |
| 14:03 | <adama> | bcstech: e.g. http://paste.debian.net/?paste=2864823 |
| 14:03 | <deniz> | valdyn, that sounds difficult lol :( |
| 14:04 | <vvas> | tCzern: not sure if it'll work, but try blackbox-themes (fluxbox is derived from blackbox) |
| 14:04 | <bcstech> | http://paste.debian.net/42300/ |
| 14:04 | <bcstech> | that is the url |
| 14:04 | <tCzern> | ok, thanks! |
| 14:04 | <vvas> | bcstech, we've already told you that for WPA you need the wpa-* options and not the wireless-* options |
| 14:05 | <Lethalman> | I'm getting problems when running python |
| 14:05 | <Lethalman> | it can't "import site" |
| 14:05 | <vvas> | bcstech: in addition, we've given you pointers to documentation that you didn't really follow |
| 14:05 | <Lethalman> | i'm using sid, python 2.5.4 |
| 14:05 | <adama> | bcstech: what's that line 10 doing there |
| 14:05 | <Lethalman> | updated a few hours ago |
| 14:05 | <Lethalman> | does it happen to you too? |
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| 14:05 | <bcstech> | okay |
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| 14:06 | <bcstech> | someone said use iface wpa-psk |
| 14:06 | <bcstech> | i tried that it did not like it |
| 14:07 | <bcstech> | what was the documentation again i missed it |
| 14:07 | <bcstech> | i got rid of line 10 |
| 14:07 | <vvas> | !wpa |
| 14:07 | <dpkg> | wpa is Wi-Fi Protected Access. A WPA supplicant is provided for Debian Lenny, Etch and Squeeze in the 'wpasupplicant' package. Read /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz to configure the supplicant as desired (esp. "Troubleshooting" regarding association to hidden SSIDs). Lenny's Debian Installer does not support WPA. http://wiki.debian.org/WPA http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#wpasupplicant |
| 14:07 | <bcstech> | thank you |
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| 14:09 | <deniz> | bremner, RV7xx supported (mine is RV770) |
| 14:09 | <bremner> | deniz: the latest radeonhd package already supports HD4850. |
| 14:09 | <bcstech> | oh it does not support in lenny |
| 14:09 | <bremner> | deniz: err, not the package, but the sources |
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| 14:09 | <bcstech> | that would make since |
| 14:09 | <deniz> | bcstech, are you sure? so the ubuntu same version is patched? |
| 14:09 | <bcstech> | so is there another encryption i can use |
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| 14:10 | <vvas> | bcstech, that's not what it says |
| 14:11 | <julioh> | cromenlo sapos |
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| 14:11 | <dr|z3d> | bcstech: You can use wep, but it's ill advised. |
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| 14:12 | <dr|z3d> | Still, wep with a 128bit key is better than no protection at all. Marginally. |
| 14:12 | <vvas> | dr|z3d, there's no point for him to use wep |
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| 14:12 | <dr|z3d> | vvas: Just asnwering his question, not offering advice beyond that. ;) |
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| 14:14 | -!- | drakeman_ is now known as drakeman |
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| 14:15 | <Jason1> | question |
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| 14:15 | <Jason1> | how do I examine on the boot log? |
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| 14:16 | <Jason1> | or startup log |
| 14:16 | <dkr> | answer |
| 14:17 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 420] by debhelper |
| 14:17 | <dkr> | less /var/log/boot |
| 14:17 | <Jason1> | thanks |
| 14:17 | <chaoticmass> | I'm back... the question again: /dev/lp0 doesn't exist on my Debian Lenny system. How do I make /dev/lp0 exist, OR where can I at least find information on what system causes /dev/lp0 to exist and I'll try reading that manual. Thanks in advance. |
| 14:17 | <dkr> | or less /var/log/dmesg |
| 14:17 | <Jason1> | hm. it is ok |
| 14:18 | <Jason1> | (Nothing has been logged yet.) |
| 14:18 | <Jason1> | /var/log/boot (END) |
| 14:18 | <petemc> | chaoticmass: try modprobe lp |
| 14:19 | <chaoticmass> | petemc : simple, and it worked! thanks |
| 14:19 | <dkr> | chaoticmass: plug in a printer? :) udev creates the actual device files |
| 14:19 | <Jason1> | dmesg give me more information, thanks |
| 14:19 | <dkr> | when the modules loaded. yep, heh |
| 14:20 | <chaoticmass> | I guess that module wasn't getting loaded by default. I'll add it to /etc/modules. |
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| 14:21 | <chaoticmass> | Thanks again. |
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| 14:26 | <apache> | hab nur kurz meinen nick geändert |
| 14:27 | <apache> | wisst ihr wo man das einstellen kann? |
| 14:27 | <Jason1> | lol. |
| 14:27 | <Jason1> | go to a debian german |
| 14:27 | <vvas> | !de |
| 14:27 | <dpkg> | deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
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| 14:27 | <Jason1> | lol wow I didn't know the bot can speak german |
| 14:27 | <vvas> | the bot can speak all sorts of languages |
| 14:28 | <Jason1> | even Hungarian? |
| 14:28 | <Jason1> | :P |
| 14:28 | <dr|z3d> | !hu |
| 14:28 | <dpkg> | it has been said that hu is Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #debian.hu -t. |
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| 14:28 | <Jason1> | cool |
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| 14:29 | <vvas> | anyway, time to go back home |
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| 14:29 | <Jason1> | I am already home, it's #debian |
| 14:29 | <Jason1> | :) |
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| 14:31 | <olet> | !dk |
| 14:32 | <dpkg> | well, dk is Hvis du vil tale dansk og få hjælp til debian, skriv /join #linux.dk in your irc client, also the country Denmark |
| 14:32 | <Jason1> | oh. |
| 14:32 | <olet> | hehe |
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| 14:32 | <olet> | that was probably a bit off-topic |
| 14:33 | <Jason1> | naw it is ok |
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| 14:33 | <jason6> | i need a fully functional ddos app to kill websites suggestions? |
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| 14:34 | <olasd> | jason6: yes sure, what about you go seek elsewhere? |
| 14:34 | <Jason1> | ddos? |
| 14:34 | <Jason1> | oh eah I know you meant |
| 14:34 | <Jason1> | yeah* |
| 14:34 | <jason6> | but i run debian so thought u guys could help |
| 14:35 | <Jason1> | I am running debian lenny. |
| 14:35 | <olasd> | ow yeah right |
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| 14:35 | <Jason1> | oh I see why there is lot of jasons now lol |
| 14:35 | <jason6> | and i need shells on peoples servers with high upstream i want to do this legally |
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| 14:41 | <Jason1> | mmm... shells. |
| 14:42 | <drakeman> | Jason6, kill websites? |
| 14:42 | <olasd> | Jason1: ddos is distributed denial of service. The guy wanted help to flood servers. |
| 14:42 | <Jason1> | ok. lol you're crazy. |
| 14:42 | <olasd> | he's been killed off the irc network though |
| 14:42 | <Jason1> | it's illegal. |
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| 14:43 | <drakeman> | jason6, use windows xD |
| 14:43 | <drakeman> | plop, he left |
| 14:43 | <drakeman> | hehe |
| 14:43 | <Jason1> | Jason6, don't flood. |
| 14:43 | <olasd> | those jason guys are crazy |
| 14:43 | * | olasd ducks and runs :D |
| 14:44 | <drakeman> | olasd, hehee, yes, all the jasons hehehe |
| 14:44 | <Jason1> | but... |
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| 14:44 | -!- | Ezekiel [~Bilok@pool-71-116-95-95.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #debian |
| 14:44 | <Jason1> | :( |
| 14:44 | <drakeman> | but Jason1 is nice :D |
| 14:44 | <Jason1> | Yeah. |
| 14:44 | <Ezekiel> | How do I change my ip address? |
| 14:44 | <Jason1> | internal or external? |
| 14:44 | <amphi> | Ezekiel: how did you get it? |
| 14:44 | <drakeman> | Ezekiel, :S |
| 14:45 | <drakeman> | Ezekiel, explain it better |
| 14:45 | <Jason1> | if external, don't change it or the internet company will cut you off |
| 14:45 | <Ezekiel> | Tell me why |
| 14:45 | <Jason1> | Uhhh... |
| 14:45 | <Jason1> | ok let me think. |
| 14:45 | <znh> | Ezekiel, ifconfig DEVICE IP as root |
| 14:45 | <Ezekiel> | do it now |
| 14:46 | <Jason1> | ok, if you change the external ip address, then you kill them odem or you use the illegal address and they can trace your activity and they cut you fast |
| 14:46 | <Ezekiel> | How do I bypass a Kline? |
| 14:46 | <Jason1> | you cannot. |
| 14:46 | <Ezekiel> | tell me now |
| 14:46 | <Jason1> | I'm sorry, sir. |
| 14:46 | <Ezekiel> | Do it now |
| 14:46 | <Jason1> | you cannot bypass the kline. |
| 14:47 | <Jason1> | just calm down. |
| 14:47 | <Ezekiel> | How long do Kline's last then |
| 14:47 | <znh> | okay this channel seems to be full of crap.. |
| 14:47 | <Jason1> | no. |
| 14:47 | <Ezekiel> | no what |
| 14:47 | <Jason1> | kline may last forever. |
| 14:47 | <amphi> | Ezekiel: you can email the network admins if you think you were wrongly k-lined |
| 14:47 | <Jason1> | yeah do that |
| 14:47 | <Ezekiel> | What if I was rightly Klined? |
| 14:47 | <znh> | Ezekiel, just use common logic. It's the 42 for everything |
| 14:48 | <Jason1> | yes |
| 14:48 | <amphi> | Ezekiel: then you're k-lined |
| 14:48 | <Jason1> | znh is correct. |
| 14:48 | <Ezekiel> | I want back in though |
| 14:48 | <amphi> | *shrug* |
| 14:48 | <Ezekiel> | I need to get back in |
| 14:48 | <Jason1> | in which server then? |
| 14:48 | <Ezekiel> | Ubuntu |
| 14:48 | <Jason1> | well are you using ubuntu |
| 14:48 | <Ezekiel> | Freenode |
| 14:48 | <Ezekiel> | Yes |
| 14:48 | <Jason1> | then email the admins. |
| 14:49 | <amphi> | Ezekiel: this is a debian support channel |
| 14:49 | <Ezekiel> | I already emails the kline address |
| 14:49 | <Jason1> | Yes, sir! |
| 14:49 | <Ezekiel> | I dont know the admin's emails |
| 14:49 | <Jason1> | yes, it is debian, silly. |
| 14:49 | <Jason1> | not ubuntu |
| 14:49 | <Ezekiel> | Dont call me silly |
| 14:49 | <Jason1> | I can. |
| 14:49 | <Ezekiel> | I cant get into Ubuntu I already told you, motherfucker |
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| 14:49 | * | Jason1 silences. |
| 14:49 | * | amphi sighs |
| 14:50 | <Jason1> | okay. |
| 14:50 | * | Ezekiel looks around |
| 14:50 | <Casnik> | damn |
| 14:50 | <Casnik> | what an idiot |
| 14:50 | * | Jason1 nods. |
| 14:50 | <Ezekiel> | Who you calling an idiot, fag |
| 14:50 | <Jason1> | ok |
| 14:50 | <themill> | !ops Ezekiel would like to find another channel |
| 14:50 | <dpkg> | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: themill complains about: Ezekiel would like to find another channel |
| 14:50 | <Jason1> | I want Ezekiel kicked out now. |
| 14:50 | <Casnik> | someone kick this douche |
| 14:50 | <Ezekiel> | Why |
| 14:50 | <Ezekiel> | You're a douche |
| 14:51 | <Jason1> | Because you sweared to me. |
| 14:51 | <Ezekiel> | No I didnt |
| 14:51 | <Jason1> | yes. |
| 14:51 | <amphi> | Ezekiel: because you don't know why |
| 14:51 | <themill> | Ezekiel, Jason1: enough |
| 14:51 | <Jason1> | I didn't do anything. |
| 14:51 | <Ezekiel> | Bull |
| 14:51 | * | Jason1 thinks of Debian question. |
| 14:51 | <Ezekiel> | You were bullying me and being evasive with answers |
| 14:51 | <jthomas_sb_> | Ezekiel no one wants to let you in anywhere with that language |
| 14:51 | <Casnik> | Ezekiel /join #mandrake |
| 14:51 | <Ezekiel> | why not |
| 14:51 | <znh> | jthomas_sb_, there are certain places. please be correct |
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| 14:52 | <patyre> | oiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii |
| 14:52 | <daianems> | day |
| 14:52 | <Jason1> | ok. |
| 14:52 | <patyre> | oiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii como vai |
| 14:52 | <Ezekiel> | what the funk |
| 14:52 | <Jason1> | I still can't find the boot log, I already looked on dmesg and boot log |
| 14:52 | <Jason1> | lol. |
| 14:52 | <daianems> | como vai pati |
| 14:52 | <patyre> | good |
| 14:53 | <Jason1> | silly paty |
| 14:53 | <Ezekiel> | jason's a fag |
| 14:53 | <Jason1> | there is lots of Jason's. |
| 14:53 | <themill> | Ezekiel: please stop that. |
| 14:53 | <Ezekiel> | ok |
| 14:53 | * | znh prays: dear lord please ban people with IQ < 50 from this world |
| 14:53 | <amphi> | Jason1: what does /etc/default/bootlogd say? |
| 14:53 | <patyre> | PATRICIA |
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| 14:54 | * | Casnik agrees with znh. |
| 14:54 | <Jason1> | # Run bootlogd at startup ? |
| 14:54 | <Jason1> | BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=No |
| 14:54 | <Ezekiel> | I need the email of an admin in ubuntu |
| 14:54 | <adb> | BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=Yes |
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| 14:54 | <Ezekiel> | Someone give me one |
| 14:54 | <Casnik> | if I do will you leave and enever come back? |
| 14:54 | <amphi> | Jason1: you might want to change that to 'Yes' |
| 14:54 | <Hydroxide> | Ezekiel: ask in an ubuntu place |
| 14:54 | <themill> | Ezekiel: this is #debian... you really seem to be in the wrong place |
| 14:54 | <Jason1> | how? |
| 14:55 | * | dr|z3d gives Ezekiel a timely kick up the ass. |
| 14:55 | <olasd> | Ezekiel: did you try google? 'cause using irc as a google proxy is hard |
| 14:55 | <Ezekiel> | I was klined from ubuntu |
| 14:55 | <noflash> | heh |
| 14:55 | <Ezekiel> | dumb shit |
| 14:55 | <znh> | i lol'd |
| 14:55 | <daianems> | fala alguma coisa pati |
| 14:55 | <Jason1> | how do I change it to yes? |
| 14:55 | <themill> | patyre, daianems: Este canal é apenas em inglês. /join #debian-br |
| 14:55 | <Casnik> | admin@ubuntu.org.com.gt.fo |
| 14:55 | -!- | mode/#debian [+o Hydroxide] by ChanServ |
| 14:55 | -!- | mode/#debian [+q *!*@pool-71-116-95-95.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] by Hydroxide |
| 14:55 | -!- | mode/#debian [-o Hydroxide] by Hydroxide |
| 14:56 | <patyre> | ALGUMA COISA |
| 14:56 | <daianems> | ñ isso |
| 14:56 | <Hydroxide> | Ezekiel: that's for 10 minutes only - it'll undo itself after that |
| 14:56 | <amphi> | !br |
| 14:56 | <dpkg> | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 14:56 | <daianems> | quem é esssas pessoas q esta falando ai |
| 14:56 | <dr|z3d> | Evading a kline isn't the way to go, Ezekiel. You have a serious attitude problem; try addressing that first. |
| 14:56 | <Hydroxide> | Ezekiel: when it expires, please stop asking questions about ubuntu here, and please stop using curse words or insults |
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| 14:56 | * | Jason1 agrees with dr|z3d |
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| 14:56 | <Hydroxide> | Ezekiel: if you don't, you'll get a more permanent +q or +b |
| 14:57 | <Jason1> | Thank you, Hydroxide |
| 14:57 | <Hydroxide> | np |
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| 14:57 | * | olasd sticks here for the fireworks after the +q expiry |
| 14:57 | <Casnik> | ^ |
| 14:57 | <amphi> | !qotd29 |
| 14:57 | <dpkg> | <ricky_clarkson> To +b or not to +b, that is the +q |
| 14:57 | <Hydroxide> | I'll probably be at dinner, actually (woo DebConf9) |
| 14:57 | <Hydroxide> | but others will be watching ... feel free to summon ops same as you did me |
| 14:57 | <Jason1> | :) |
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| 14:58 | <Jason1> | but how? |
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| 14:58 | <adb> | edit it |
| 14:58 | -!- | patyre [~patyre@200.223.80.165] has quit [Quit: Leaving] |
| 14:58 | <adb> | as root |
| 14:58 | <Jason1> | with gedit right? |
| 14:58 | <adb> | yes |
| 14:58 | <amphi> | Jason1: as root, open it in a text editor, and make the change |
| 14:58 | <Jason1> | ok |
| 14:58 | <amphi> | Jason1: or nano or whatever, in a term |
| 14:58 | <Casnik> | vi |
| 14:58 | <Casnik> | sudo su |
| 14:58 | <Casnik> | password |
| 14:59 | <Casnik> | vi <file> |
| 14:59 | <amphi> | I suspect Jason1 is not yet a big vi fan |
| 14:59 | <Casnik> | ugh |
| 14:59 | <Casnik> | vi > best |
| 14:59 | <bremner> | Casnik: perhaps the -s option of sudo would interest you |
| 14:59 | <amphi> | Casnik: the first editor you ever used, eh? ;) |
| 14:59 | <znh> | Casnik, that's just your opinion. you state it as if it's a fact |
| 14:59 | <Jason1> | wow |
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| 14:59 | <Jason1> | it is easier |
| 14:59 | <Casnik> | ouch ok ok |
| 14:59 | <Casnik> | sorry jeez |
| 14:59 | <bremner> | !start and editor flame war |
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| 14:59 | <Jason1> | I am more an gedit |
| 15:00 | <Jason1> | or vim |
| 15:00 | <Jason1> | ok I already edited it to yes |
| 15:00 | <Jason1> | now what? |
| 15:00 | <Jason1> | :) |
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| 15:00 | <Jason1> | restart? |
| 15:00 | <amphi> | it is done |
| 15:00 | <Jason1> | ok |
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| 15:01 | <Jason1> | reboot? |
| 15:01 | <adb> | Jason1: shutdown -r now |
| 15:01 | <Jason1> | ok |
| 15:01 | <Jason1> | oh wait it will restart? |
| 15:01 | <adb> | yes |
| 15:01 | <noflash> | 4~ |
| 15:02 | <Jason1> | lol |
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| 15:04 | <Jason1> | got it |
| 15:04 | <Jason1> | now what? |
| 15:05 | <Jason1> | open gedit? |
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| 15:05 | <caguento> | http://portalsupremos.net/ |
| 15:05 | <caguento> | http://portalsupremos.net/ |
| 15:05 | <caguento> | http://portalsupremos.net/ |
| 15:06 | <caguento> | http://portalsupremos.net/ |
| 15:06 | <caguento> | http://portalsupremos.net/ |
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| 15:06 | <Jason1> | huh? |
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| 15:06 | -!- | mode/#debian [-q *!*@pool-71-116-95-95.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] by Hydroxide |
| 15:06 | -!- | mode/#debian [-o Hydroxide] by Hydroxide |
| 15:06 | <Jason1> | oh? |
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| 15:06 | <Jason1> | hey Hydroxide bud :) |
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| 15:06 | <amphi> | Jason1: 'less /var/log/boot' in a term |
| 15:06 | <Ezekiel> | um |
| 15:06 | <olasd> | Jason1: i think this was an automated action |
| 15:07 | <Jason1> | ok |
| 15:07 | <amphi> | Jason1: if that's what you meant ;) |
| 15:07 | <Ezekiel> | why was I silenced? |
| 15:07 | <Jason1> | yes |
| 15:07 | <amphi> | Ezekiel: because you were noisy |
| 15:07 | <Ezekiel> | so's your mom |
| 15:07 | <olasd> | yeah, that's *exactly* why |
| 15:08 | <olasd> | you found out by yourself, nice |
| 15:08 | <Jason1> | VirtualBox Additions Disabled, not in a Virtual Machine ^[[33m(warning).^[[39;49m this is why I want to examine the boot log |
| 15:08 | <Jason1> | I already installed it |
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| 15:09 | <amphi> | sic transit... |
| 15:09 | <Jason1> | I installed it in XP |
| 15:09 | <Jason1> | but how od I make vitural addition enabled? |
| 15:09 | <Jason1> | so debian don't panic |
| 15:10 | <amphi> | debian is running under virtualbox on windows xp? |
| 15:10 | <Jason1> | no |
| 15:10 | <Jason1> | I run debian, and I install windows XP in VB |
| 15:10 | <amphi> | ah |
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| 15:10 | <olasd> | Jason1: virtualbox additions are tools for the guest |
| 15:11 | <olasd> | for the system *inside* the vm |
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| 15:11 | <Jason1> | oh? |
| 15:11 | <olasd> | not for the system running virtualbox |
| 15:11 | <olasd> | yeah |
| 15:11 | <Jason1> | but I already installed the addition, sir. |
| 15:11 | <olasd> | like stuff to resize the screen on the fly etc. |
| 15:11 | <Jason1> | It's fine. |
| 15:12 | <Jason1> | I liek to tweak stuff |
| 15:12 | <Jason1> | how do I enable it anyways? |
| 15:12 | <olasd> | well, uh |
| 15:13 | <olasd> | it won't work on the system outside of virtualbox |
| 15:13 | <Jason1> | ah. |
| 15:13 | <Jason1> | I see. |
| 15:13 | <Jason1> | I'll leave it alone then |
| 15:13 | <olasd> | because it's, well, for the system running under virtualbox |
| 15:13 | <olasd> | :) |
| 15:13 | <Jason1> | thanks bud |
| 15:13 | <olasd> | np |
| 15:14 | <vvas> | ml|: *poke* |
| 15:14 | <Jason1> | I feel I need ot attend the linux local user group |
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| 15:14 | <olasd> | Jason1: you should, it's always interesting to meet with real people sometimes |
| 15:14 | <olasd> | :P |
| 15:15 | <Jason1> | yes |
| 15:15 | <ml|> | !greet vvas |
| 15:15 | <dpkg> | Moo, vvas |
| 15:15 | <Jason1> | lol |
| 15:15 | <vvas> | heh |
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| 15:15 | <Jason1> | moo back to ya dpkg |
| 15:15 | <vvas> | ml|: remember when you were asking about identifying a hard disk's model? |
| 15:16 | <ml|> | yes ? |
| 15:16 | <Jason1> | mine is Western Digital SATA |
| 15:16 | <phorce1> | real people? |
| 15:16 | <Jason1> | yes. |
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| 15:16 | <olasd> | phorce1: yeah, you know |
| 15:16 | <olasd> | the guys on the other side of your windows |
| 15:16 | <vvas> | ml|: apparently "smartctl -i" is useful for that too, it has a database that model numbers to model families |
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| 15:16 | <Jason1> | lol silly olasd |
| 15:16 | <vvas> | i was just reading the smartctl manpage for something unrelated and noticed that |
| 15:17 | <ml|> | vvas: ah, will make a note and try it now, thanks :) |
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| 15:18 | <vvas> | n/p |
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| 15:19 | <Jason1> | I'm still feeling curious on examining the hardware supports for Debian |
| 15:20 | <phorce1> | vvas: the drive will even announce whatever info it can even if it's not in the smartctl database using that command |
| 15:20 | <_el_isma_> | How do I convince Debian Installer to NOT use Wifi? How do I know which network devices are available? No ifconfig on d-i :( |
| 15:20 | <phorce1> | Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall] |
| 15:20 | <phorce1> | Device Model: Hitachi HDT721010SLA360 |
| 15:21 | <phorce1> | User Capacity: 1,000,204,886,016 bytes <----- woohoo! |
| 15:21 | <Jason1> | lol |
| 15:21 | <Jason1> | yummy bytes |
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| 15:21 | * | phorce1 just had to drop a 500G in the garbage can. No warranty |
| 15:22 | <Jason1> | Awww... |
| 15:22 | <olasd> | well, it's not *that* much |
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| 15:23 | <Jason1> | 1TB is a lot |
| 15:23 | <Jason1> | :P |
| 15:24 | <_el_isma_> | how do you configure ifaces on d-i? |
| 15:24 | <phorce1> | Prices keep droopping and drives keep growing. Didn't someone announce a 2TB drive recently? |
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| 15:28 | <Jason1> | brb |
| 15:28 | <Jason1> | oooooh. |
| 15:28 | <Jason1> | 2TB seruiously? |
| 15:29 | <vvas> | aye, a couple of brands actually i think |
| 15:30 | * | _el_isma_ hates D-I |
| 15:30 | <vvas> | indeed, both Seagate and WD |
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| 15:31 | <bremner> | _el_isma_: does the machine have a radio kill switch? On my thinkpad you can physically turn off the wifi. |
| 15:32 | <phorce1> | http://pastebin.com/d68a26274 |
| 15:32 | <_el_isma_> | bremner: I think not. It has a switch, but I think it's software |
| 15:33 | <_el_isma_> | bremner: I don't think D-I is detecting my eth... it should offer to connect that way |
| 15:34 | <bremner> | _el_isma_: doesn't it ask you in the "setup network stage" what interface to use? I guess not otherwise you wouldn't ask... |
| 15:35 | <bja> | I just purged iceweasel from my computer, i erased every /home/$user/.mozilla subdir, do i miss something to completely get rid of iceweasel? |
| 15:35 | <phorce1> | how about 250G that'll fit in your wallet I can see building a debian carputer around this and a mini-itx board ---> http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/25/toshibas-record-breaking-1-8-inch-250gb-sata-disk-for-your-next/ |
| 15:35 | <_el_isma_> | bremner: indeed, it just assumes wifi... my guess is that it ain't detecting eth |
| 15:35 | <bremner> | _el_isma_: sounds like a firmware problem. Some nvidia hatefulness? |
| 15:36 | <_el_isma_> | bremner: Atheros I believe. It's an Acer One 250 |
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| 15:36 | <phorce1> | bja: if you used --purge it should all be gone. You may want to run deborphan to see if there are any unused libs lying around |
| 15:36 | <bja> | phorce1: thx wouldn't be the case, but doing it anyway |
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| 15:48 | <deniz> | bremner, you said lenny doesn't support my hd4850...what about it doesn't? like which package? so i can follow it from sid to squeeze |
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| 15:52 | <bremner> | deniz: I didn't say anything about lenny, but I think the package you want is xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd. All I know is that the current upstream source claims to support your card. You will have to dig a bit to figure out what debian version (if any) works |
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| 15:55 | <deniz> | bremner, so which version of xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd is upstream? |
| 15:55 | <deniz> | bremner, and do you have any idea why the same radeonhd version in ubuntu works but not in debian? |
| 15:56 | <deniz> | bremner, o i think i know! |
| 15:56 | <bremner> | deniz: I don't know anything about ubuntu. You will have to inspect changelogs, look at the source, or ask them... |
| 15:58 | <deniz> | bremner, http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeonhd says ---> "2D acceleration is active by default only on R5xx and RS6xx right now. For R6xx and R7xx you have to enable it explicitely. " and i think that includes my HD4850 |
| 15:58 | <deniz> | bremner, so since ubuntu makes decisions for u, im sure they enabled it |
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| 16:02 | <edickttt> | Could somebody explain me why debian is harder to learn than ubuntu? |
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| 16:02 | <albin> | edickttt: I'd say it isn't. |
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| 16:03 | <albin> | Hello, I am running sid, and when I updated my packages today, I was told that the old grub was being deprecated, and that I should/could update to grub 2. How risky is this? Will it support initramfs, cryptsetup etc without extra work (other than what the package does), or is there some lengthy procedure I need to go through? |
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| 16:03 | <dkr> | edickttt: more choices, less popular stuff provided out of the box, especially non-free stuff |
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| 16:04 | <noflash> | !tell albin -about grub2 |
| 16:04 | <tempuser> | hey guys. i have a rogue package (libperl5.8) that i cannot fix. it appeared after an upgrade from etch-> lenny. apt-show-version states libperl5.8 is broken, but not installed. currently libperl5.10 is installed and working fine. |
| 16:04 | <tempuser> | what might a guy do to resolve this issue? |
| 16:04 | <edickttt> | my point is --when i ask people what distro to choose they point to ubuntu but warn not to start with debian WHY? |
| 16:05 | <nickzxcv> | so I have a similar issue to this bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=500192 and I wrote a very simple patch |
| 16:05 | <nickzxcv> | http://www.schmalenberger.us/files/opensshinitscriptwithkeygen.patch |
| 16:05 | <nickzxcv> | is this a good thing to do in debian? |
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| 16:06 | <bremner> | edickttt: who can explain other peoples opinions, why don't you ask them? |
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| 16:07 | <albin> | noflash: Sorry, that didn't really help, I have already looked at the wiki node. I suppose I'll just have to prepare a system resucue CD for chrooting and try it. |
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| 16:09 | <edickttt> | bremner what a habbit to answer questions in questions |
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| 16:10 | <chealer> | tempuser: remove libperl5.8 |
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| 16:11 | <bremner> | edickttt: some person you don't know told me something you don't believe. Please explain their reasoning. |
| 16:11 | <amphi> | edickttt: debian is fine to start on, as long as you are prepared to read some documentation |
| 16:11 | <tempuser> | chealer: tried that. apt says its not installed and aptitude says it's broken and cant be removed. |
| 16:11 | <_el_isma_> | edickttt: General belief is that Ubuntu has more things configured for the user (wifi non-free drivers, for example) and so is more newbie-friendly. |
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| 16:11 | <_el_isma_> | bremner: lol |
| 16:12 | <albin> | On the other hand, I've had problems with wierd Ubuntu updates that I've never even come close to on other distributions. |
| 16:12 | <themill> | tempuser: can you pastebin the output of "aptitude -f remove libperl5.8" |
| 16:14 | <albin> | I don't remember, can I get a prompt on a normal Debian install cd/dvd? |
| 16:16 | <tempuser> | themill: you bet. hold please. |
| 16:17 | <Jason1> | huh? |
| 16:17 | <_el_isma_> | albin: ctrl-alt-fn ? will get you to a busybox |
| 16:17 | <_el_isma_> | (fn being F1, f2.. etc) |
| 16:17 | <Jason1> | lol |
| 16:17 | <Jason1> | ok hm... I am here to help. |
| 16:18 | <amphi> | !praise Jason1 |
| 16:18 | * | dpkg prostrates herself before Jason1. "You rock, Jason1!" |
| 16:18 | <Jason1> | oh? |
| 16:18 | <Jason1> | dpkg is a she? |
| 16:18 | <dpkg> | Jason1: wish i knew |
| 16:19 | <nickzxcv> | so is it a bad idea to run dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server from /etc/init.d/ssh if there are no /etc/ssh/ssh_host_* files? |
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| 16:19 | <Jason1> | good question, but according to the manual I learned, they're different |
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| 16:19 | <zulu> | route del 239.0.0.0 return SIOCDELRT: No such process... why? the route is listed with route |
| 16:19 | <Jason1> | the filename is different in each files |
| 16:20 | <bja> | zulu: try del net or gw |
| 16:20 | <zulu> | net: No address associated with name |
| 16:20 | <zulu> | plugwash: No address associated with name |
| 16:20 | <zulu> | grrrr |
| 16:21 | <bja> | zulu: route -n ? |
| 16:21 | <bja> | should tell you if it is a net or not |
| 16:21 | <zulu> | 239.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 |
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| 16:21 | <zulu> | this is a net? |
| 16:21 | <tempuser> | themill: sorry about that, i have pam foobarred. |
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| 16:22 | <bja> | zulu: that should be the subnet you are on |
| 16:22 | <zulu> | I really can't delete this route... it's amazing!!! |
| 16:23 | <bja> | zulu: you can , but you have to deconfigure your nic |
| 16:23 | <Jason1> | yup |
| 16:23 | <Jason1> | like I did to my old wireless adapter, I had to deconfigure ages ago |
| 16:24 | <zulu> | ok |
| 16:24 | <zulu> | done now... |
| 16:24 | <zulu> | thx bja, I don't understand why I have deconfigure the interface! |
| 16:24 | <zulu> | deleted now... |
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| 16:25 | <zulu> | any good tutorial for setting a debian multicast router? (tryin to make upnp work outhere) |
| 16:25 | <bja> | zulu: I don't know the reason, but it sounds right that when you have a nic with an ip it should have at leaste a route to itself |
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| 16:28 | <tempuser> | themill: ok, i can't get ssh to allow me to login, so can can't copy/paste from a terminal into a browser. |
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| 16:29 | <ml|> | vvas: thanks smartctl -i works great :) any tips on setting up smartd? |
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| 16:29 | <themill> | tempuser: you can pipe the output to: nc paste.dyndns.org 1234 |
| 16:32 | <vvas> | ml|: i haven't really researched it much TBH, i just set start_smartd=yes and left it there |
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| 16:32 | <vvas> | ml|: i should have a better look at it though now that you mention it; unless it emails you by default if it spots anything serious it's pretty useless i guess |
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| 16:33 | <DavidDuke88> | SIEG HEIL! 88! http://stormfront.org |
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| 16:33 | <tempuser> | themill: connection refused |
| 16:33 | <tempuser> | but yes, i can. |
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| 16:34 | <themill> | works here |
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| 16:34 | <ml|> | vvas: ok i get an error at boot time about it, so i'll mess with it thanks again it spews nice detail about hd :) |
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| 16:35 | <Wilduck> | Quick question, what command do I use to change the creator of a directory, I'd like to read it's man page... |
| 16:35 | <dads> | OK I'm getting there.... |
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| 16:36 | <kmap> | Wilduck: chown? |
| 16:36 | <Wilduck> | nice |
| 16:36 | <Wilduck> | thanks |
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| 16:36 | <kmap> | Wilduck: no problems |
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| 16:37 | <tempuser> | themill: i got pam working....i'll get it pasted. |
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| 16:38 | <tempuser> | themill: http://pastebin.com/m559faf0d |
| 16:39 | <Jason1> | it works fine jenna. |
| 16:40 | <tempuser> | themill: i also just appended the output of "aptitude install nagios2" |
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| 16:40 | <vvas> | ml|: ah, i guess you might need to specify which drives it should use, or enable smart in the bios, or something (hard to say without the actual error message obviously) |
| 16:40 | <Jason1> | S.M.A.R.T to be exact. I know you meant. |
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| 16:41 | <themill> | tempuser: that's really really odd output. Try: aptitude install nagios2 libperl5.8_ (note the _ at the end) |
| 16:42 | <ml|> | vvas: ok, but i think it's just that by default start_smartd=yes is comment in config |
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| 16:43 | <tempuser> | themill: tell me about it. i've never seen anything like it. new output pasted. |
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| 16:45 | <themill> | tempuser: hang on... nagios2 isn't in lenny; nagios3 is. |
| 16:45 | <vvas> | ml|: hm, well is anything not commented out in /etc/default/smartmontools? because if both enable_smart and start_smartd are commented out, the init script shouldn't do/print anything AFAICT |
| 16:45 | <tempuser> | themill: no shit. |
| 16:45 | <tempuser> | themill: i'll go away now ;( |
| 16:45 | <Jason1> | yes shit |
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| 16:46 | <tempuser> | themill: why is aptitude even finding the nagios2 packages? |
| 16:47 | <themill> | tempuser: hehe. Stop trying to install a stale etch package in lenny and your problem will go away. |
| 16:47 | <tempuser> | themill: does the cache still contain dep info? |
| 16:47 | <themill> | tempuser: it's left over from an ancient testing/security update. The testing/security people haven't yet got an automated way of removing stale packages. (they *really* need to get one) |
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| 16:48 | <tempuser> | themill: at the very lest have atp(titude) throw and error explaining whats going wrong......i learn something new every day. |
| 16:49 | <themill> | tempuser: the packages shouldn't be available through security.debian.org any more. That's the real problem. I've passed the problem along and they'll disappear some time soon so it's no longer a problem. |
| 16:50 | <edickttt> | ISMAEL and ROLEX Thank you very much! |
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| 16:50 | <tempuser> | themill: cool. thank you kindly for pointing out my lack of detail. |
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| 16:51 | <themill> | tempuser: no worries. The output of "apt-cache policy packagename" can be instructive in such instances. |
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| 17:02 | <knoppix_> | slm arkadaslar |
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| 17:03 | <dr|z3d> | !pe |
| 17:03 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 17:03 | <dr|z3d> | Nope. Looking for Persian, or Arabic. |
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| 17:05 | <adb> | !Arabic |
| 17:05 | <dpkg> | arabic is, like, Linux supports the Arabic language. See http://www.arabeyes.org/download/documents/howto/arabic-howto-en/ |
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| 17:08 | <Ezekiel> | does anyone know of a way to burn a DVD that is copyright protected? |
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| 17:08 | <dr|z3d> | Ezekiel: Handbrake is your friend. |
| 17:08 | <Jason1> | lol |
| 17:08 | <Ezekiel> | What is handbreak? |
| 17:08 | <Jason1> | handbrake lol |
| 17:09 | <patrikf> | Ezekiel: afaik that's impossible, because the key is on a location that cannot be written with a dvd writer |
| 17:09 | <dr|z3d> | !fgi handbrake |
| 17:09 | * | dr|z3d guess that got disabled. |
| 17:09 | <patrikf> | not with a standard one at least... |
| 17:09 | <dr|z3d> | Ezekiel: Google.. it's the de factor ripping app. |
| 17:09 | <Jason1> | !ask about handbrake |
| 17:09 | <Jason1> | oh. |
| 17:09 | <Jason1> | it is disabled. |
| 17:09 | <Jason1> | weird. |
| 17:09 | <dr|z3d> | !handbrake |
| 17:09 | <dpkg> | HandBrake is a tool for ripping DVDs and transcoding video into other formats (H.264, XViD, OGG). Packaged for lenny at <debian-multimedia>. http://handbrake.fr/ See also <dvd::rip>, <ogmrip>. |
| 17:10 | <Jason1> | ooooh |
| 17:10 | <Jason1> | I should install it too! |
| 17:10 | <Jason1> | because I make Xvid Cds |
| 17:10 | <Jason1> | thanks |
| 17:10 | <Ezekiel> | But I dont use mac |
| 17:10 | <Jason1> | I do use mac in the past |
| 17:10 | <Ezekiel> | I have a windows pc and I want to burn some DVDs from my collection for friends |
| 17:11 | <Jason1> | .... |
| 17:11 | <adb> | Ezekiel: ask #windows |
| 17:11 | <dr|z3d> | Ezekiel: How about you go check the handbrake link. |
| 17:11 | <Ezekiel> | you didnt give me a link |
| 17:12 | <dr|z3d> | I didn't, dpkg did. Look above. |
| 17:12 | <Ezekiel> | there is no #windows room |
| 17:12 | <dr|z3d> | !windows |
| 17:12 | <dpkg> | PCs are like air conditioners, if you open Windows(R) they don't work. |
| 17:12 | <Jason1> | yup. |
| 17:12 | <Jason1> | true dpkg |
| 17:12 | <Ezekiel> | !windows |
| 17:12 | <dpkg> | PCs are like air conditioners, if you open Windows(R) they don't work. |
| 17:12 | <Ezekiel> | stupid |
| 17:12 | <Ezekiel> | Where are the windows rooms? |
| 17:13 | <Jason1> | dpkg but thatl ink is for ubuntu |
| 17:13 | <dpkg> | Jason1: I think you lost me on that one |
| 17:13 | <dr|z3d> | Rather than playing with the bot, have a look at the link. |
| 17:13 | <Jason1> | I did |
| 17:13 | <dr|z3d> | Ezekiel: You want ##windows on freenode. |
| 17:13 | <Jason1> | it say it is for ubuntu, not for debian |
| 17:13 | <Ezekiel> | I sure do |
| 17:13 | <Ezekiel> | get me to the windows room |
| 17:13 | <dr|z3d> | Jason1: What does the factoid above say..? |
| 17:14 | <dr|z3d> | Ezekiel: Click here: irc://irc.freenode.net/windows |
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| 17:14 | <Ezekiel> | umm give me another link this one's faulty |
| 17:14 | <Ezekiel> | says I cannot connect |
| 17:14 | <Jason1> | proof in that handbrake.fr: GTK GUI (Ubuntu 8.10 x86 Binaries) |
| 17:15 | <Jason1> | so it is not for debian |
| 17:16 | <dr|z3d> | Bah. Nonsense. |
| 17:16 | <Jason1> | Yes. I'm not kidding. |
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| 17:16 | <Ezekiel> | Has anyone been able to burn a copyright DVD? |
| 17:16 | <dr|z3d> | http://debian-multimedia.org/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/package/handbrake-cli.php |
| 17:16 | <Jason1> | I dunno. |
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| 17:17 | <Jason1> | ah |
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| 17:17 | <dr|z3d> | http://debian-multimedia.org/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/package/handbrake-gtk.php |
| 17:18 | <Jason1> | got it |
| 17:18 | <Ezekiel> | AAAAAAAAAAh |
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| 17:20 | <dr|z3d> | Ezekiel: The way it usually works is this: rip DVD, (optionally encode), burn. Handbrake. Have a look at it. Play about. That's your solution. |
| 17:20 | <Jason1> | it won't let me install, even as root. |
| 17:20 | <Jason1> | hm. |
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| 17:23 | <Jason1> | http://debian-multimedia.org/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/package/handbrake-gtk.php I followed |
| 17:23 | <ewgeny> | Could not identify kernel- what the error? |
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| 17:25 | <Jason1> | I'm confused |
| 17:25 | <Jason1> | aha |
| 17:25 | <Jason1> | it is broken |
| 17:26 | <Jason1> | hm. |
| 17:27 | <Jason1> | ok now what should I do? I already removed the broken package |
| 17:27 | <Jason1> | I already downloaded the package |
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| 17:28 | <dr|z3d> | Best bet is to enable unstable repos and install from there.. |
| 17:28 | <dr|z3d> | Then you'll be getting upgrades when they happen. |
| 17:28 | <Jason1> | oh never mind |
| 17:28 | <Jason1> | I will rather have the stable packages |
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| 17:32 | <chealer> | ewgeny: what is your native language? |
| 17:32 | <Ezekiel> | someone smells like pussy in here |
| 17:32 | <Ezekiel> | a raunchy unwashed poon |
| 17:33 | <noflash> | /ignore -replies Ezekiel |
| 17:33 | <amphi> | it's still here? |
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| 17:35 | <Jason1> | It's /ignore Ezekiel |
| 17:36 | <Jason1> | oh? |
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| 17:36 | <Jason1> | my pidgin won't let me ignore him |
| 17:36 | <Jason1> | :( |
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| 17:37 | <mish> | I'm about to start work for a company that uses "Etch" (4), I'm a SUSE guy and want to get up to speed on Debian utilities, etc... Is it best to install Etch or is Debian 5 pretty much the same in its utilities, etc? |
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| 17:38 | <Jason1> | good question. |
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| 17:39 | <ewgeny> | <chealer> russian |
| 17:39 | <olasd> | mish: well, a few things changed in aptitude during the etch->lenny transition, but the main difference will be in software versions |
| 17:39 | <Jason1> | yes correct olasd |
| 17:40 | <_el_isma_> | you can check the release notes for lenny to see what's changed |
| 17:40 | <mish> | _el_isma_: lol, not likely, I only have a month before I start. ;) |
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| 17:41 | <kenyon> | mish: it takes a month to look at release notes? |
| 17:41 | <olasd> | mish, I guess you'd be better off using etch, although it's a bit outdated, there are still security updates and you'll avoid all differences with production systems |
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| 17:41 | <Jason1> | Yes. |
| 17:41 | <mish> | olasd: Right - Well I know openSUSE 10 and 11 like the back of my hand... "zypper, yast, etc"... Which obviously aren't in Debian. So I'll be 'safe' and go with Debian 4. I can't seem to find a working mirror of the Debian 4 DVD Image... Can anyone point me in the right direction? |
| 17:42 | <_el_isma_> | mish: in the "user" side of Debian, not much has changed. Installing packages, managing services it's all the same. I don't know what kind of work you'll have to do, if it's managing servers, prolly you'll be better using etch |
| 17:42 | <Jason1> | yes because of the stabilization of the server. |
| 17:42 | <mish> | _el_isma_: Managing servers, so etch it is! :) |
| 17:42 | <vvas> | olasd: etch? what are you talking about? |
| 17:43 | <olasd> | vvas: oldstable |
| 17:43 | <vvas> | olasd: yes i know silly |
| 17:43 | <kenyon> | mish: try http://wiki.debian.org/NewInLenny and http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ |
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| 17:43 | <vvas> | mish, you are better off using the current stable release, i.e. lenny |
| 17:43 | <olasd> | vvas: uhh. He'll be working on etch systems |
| 17:43 | <vvas> | ah |
| 17:43 | <vvas> | eek |
| 17:43 | <Jason1> | eek |
| 17:43 | <olasd> | yes. |
| 17:44 | <mish> | Heh |
| 17:44 | <Jason1> | yeah big eek |
| 17:44 | <Jason1> | why not lenny? |
| 17:44 | <_el_isma_> | eek? At least it's Debian :D |
| 17:44 | <olasd> | i still have a few critical servers to upgrade |
| 17:44 | <mish> | There's an upgrade path, complicated systems tied to specific versions, it's going to be upgraded. :) |
| 17:44 | <olasd> | I hope they'll break before i NEED to upgrade them |
| 17:44 | <olasd> | :) |
| 17:44 | <Jason1> | lol |
| 17:44 | <vvas> | well, fair enough |
| 17:44 | <_el_isma_> | I've had to work with CentOS... nothing like Debian |
| 17:45 | <mish> | Anyway! Now we've established that etch is the way to go... Where can I get the DVD image of Debian 4/etch... I can't find a working mirror. |
| 17:45 | <vvas> | mish: the other thing i wanted to point out is that, unless you're planning to perform multiple installations with the same medium, you're better off simply using the netinst cd image |
| 17:45 | <olasd> | mish: old images shoudl be available on http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
| 17:45 | <olasd> | should* |
| 17:45 | <Jason1> | it is what I du\id use: netinst cd image |
| 17:45 | <Jason1> | for lenny for me |
| 17:46 | <olasd> | mish: you should go light and download a network install image, which will fetch the needed packages only (well, if you have an internet connection during install) |
| 17:46 | <_el_isma_> | Indeed, netinstall++ (when it works! damned AcerOne... been fighting against it all day) |
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| 17:47 | <adb> | mish: installing etch NOW is a waste time , in next few months have to upgrade to lenny |
| 17:48 | <mish> | adb: It's to familiarize myself with etch before I start a job which has etch servers in place. Not for my own production systems. |
| 17:48 | <olasd> | adb: installing lenny now when you'll have to work on etch systems for work doesn't seem too bad to me |
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| 17:48 | <olasd> | etch* |
| 17:48 | <olasd> | well, you get the idea |
| 17:48 | <Jason1> | yeah I do |
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| 17:49 | <olasd> | now time to leave, see you |
| 17:49 | <mish> | Cya |
| 17:49 | <mish> | and thanks... |
| 17:49 | <olasd> | no problem :) |
| 17:49 | <Jason1> | your welcome |
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| 17:51 | <mish> | How does Ubuntu have such a following when it looks like (to me, without having used Debian (recently) or Ubuntu) just a repackaged version of Debian Unstable? |
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| 17:52 | <Jason1> | interesting point, mish |
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| 17:53 | <loudergood> | marketing + tight integration of nonfree components for hardware support |
| 17:54 | <dr|z3d> | mish: It's targetted at a different audience. |
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| 17:54 | <dr|z3d> | mish: You want out the box goodness, minimal fiddling with drivers, and a polished user experience, Ubuntu's for you. |
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| 17:55 | <mish> | dr|z3d: That would explain why some people are considering Ubuntu for production servers... What's your opinion on that? |
| 17:55 | <dr|z3d> | On the other hand, if you like to get deep and dirty into your OS, fix your own drivers, compile, etc, then Debian's more your home. |
| 17:55 | <Jason1> | aha then I'm lucky I installed Debian! |
| 17:56 | <bremner> | dr|z3d: you make us sound like gentoo |
| 17:56 | <dr|z3d> | mish: Ubuntu's not a bad version of Linux, at all. It's just not "pure" in the same way Debian is. Notwithstanding that, getting any Linux distro installed is preferrable to the alternatives :) |
| 17:56 | <Jason1> | yes correct, dr|z3d |
| 17:56 | <dr|z3d> | bremner: Haha. Maybe you are, minus the "compile everything" philosophy. ;) |
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| 17:57 | <dr|z3d> | Gentoo and Debian are both, in my view, enthusiast OS's more than they are commercially packaged OS's. |
| 17:57 | <Jason1> | yes |
| 17:57 | <adb> | !distro war |
| 17:57 | <dpkg> | somebody said distro war was saying debian is better than knoppix, even though it obviously isnt. |
| 17:58 | <Jason1> | true |
| 17:58 | <loudergood> | that depends heavily on the version of debian |
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| 17:58 | <Jason1> | and stability is also important |
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| 17:59 | <loudergood> | people who run stable are less likely to be enthusiast than the nutballs(like myself) who run unstable |
| 17:59 | <Slurb> | only thing ive found more stable than debian or slack is freebsd |
| 17:59 | <Jason1> | lol nutballs |
| 17:59 | <Jason1> | well |
| 17:59 | <Jason1> | unstable is risky for crashes anyways |
| 18:00 | <dr|z3d> | Unstable is for your home pc, not a production server. |
| 18:00 | <Slurb> | unstable doesnt have what i use |
| 18:00 | <themill> | dr|z3d: s/home pc/home pc as long as you have some clue/ |
| 18:00 | <Jason1> | stable is for home |
| 18:00 | <themill> | (an important distinction) |
| 18:01 | <dr|z3d> | themill: Very true. No clue? Stick to Windows, or Ubuntu if you're brave ;) |
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| 18:01 | <Jason1> | ew Windows |
| 18:01 | <loudergood> | no clue will do very well with almost any slow release distro..because they won't be trying to do things the "windows way" |
| 18:02 | <loudergood> | they just want a web browser and word processor |
| 18:02 | <Jason1> | I rather live in linux and I should make the company do linux stuff |
| 18:02 | <Jason1> | :) |
| 18:02 | <dr|z3d> | Nothing wrong with that. |
| 18:02 | <Jason1> | making linux drivers |
| 18:02 | <dr|z3d> | Not everyone need be an uber geek. |
| 18:02 | <loudergood> | exactly |
| 18:02 | <Jason1> | exactly |
| 18:02 | <dr|z3d> | Some folk just want functional basics. |
| 18:02 | <Kumool> | of course, it is a matter of audience, what is really bothering, is that some people reinvent the wheel too much, you have all of this distro's that have a focus on something, and then you have others that do the same but use another package manager, and there, new distro, which if you ask me is a complete waste of time, instead of being a joint effort |
| 18:03 | <loudergood> | these are the easiest targets for conversion |
| 18:03 | <Kumool> | woah big message |
| 18:03 | <loudergood> | haha |
| 18:03 | <loudergood> | one package system would be nice.. |
| 18:03 | <Jason1> | I liek big messages |
| 18:03 | <loudergood> | so would one desktop..but lets not go down that road ;) |
| 18:03 | <Kumool> | well im not saying that |
| 18:04 | <dr|z3d> | Sure, to some degree Linux, and its many, many flavors, is its own worst enemy. It's also its biggest strength. :) |
| 18:04 | <Jason1> | yes! |
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| 18:05 | <loudergood> | it's like political parties, if you have only one or two of them they get stale |
| 18:05 | <Kumool> | there are some package managers that have a different audience, now i wouldnt want to compile everything but then again, i havent tried gentoo tho, mayb ill like it |
| 18:05 | <Jason1> | mmmm... stale parties |
| 18:05 | <Kumool> | loudergood, theres no better way to put it than that :D |
| 18:07 | <Jason1> | I'm sticking with Debian for now. |
| 18:09 | * | themill points towards #debian-offtopic |
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| 18:09 | * | Jason1 looks and knows that :). |
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| 18:35 | <chealer> | ewgeny: did you ask #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net ? |
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| 18:36 | <msciciel> | hello |
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| 18:53 | <kaltrops> | hey can someone help with setting up a simple NFS share? |
| 18:54 | <kaltrops> | I want to share a folder in my home folder publicly to the LAN |
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| 18:54 | <kaltrops> | in my /etc/exports i put |
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| 18:55 | <kaltrops> | /home/kaltrops/nfs4 192.168.1.0/24(rw,fsid=0,crossmnt,no_subtree_check,async) |
| 18:55 | <kaltrops> | and restarted the daemon and all |
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| 18:55 | <kaltrops> | but I cant access it from another computer |
| 18:55 | <kaltrops> | it just doesnt mount |
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| 18:56 | <kaltrops> | I CAN access it purely by host name right? |
| 18:56 | <kaltrops> | because im on dhcp |
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| 18:56 | <chealer> | kaltrops: of course |
| 18:56 | <kaltrops> | ok |
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| 18:57 | <kaltrops> | so what could be going wrong? |
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| 18:58 | <kaltrops> | i think in my fstab i had put something like, "kaltrops:/ /mnt/kaltrops nfs4 auto 0 0 |
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| 18:59 | <kaltrops> | and of course I tried mounting it but it just hangs |
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| 19:00 | <kaltrops> | no errors or anything |
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| 19:07 | <icarus> | hello debian users . i hate to ask for help but i have a i686 architecture and there is is as of currently no instation of debian for this what should i do? |
| 19:07 | <kaltrops> | i think i386 is the same thing |
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| 19:08 | <icarus> | are you sure ? |
| 19:08 | <abrotman> | yes |
| 19:08 | <abrotman> | !686 |
| 19:08 | <dpkg> | In a kernel version string, -686 refers to the Intel Pentium Pro, Pentium II, Celeron, Pentium III, Pentium IV, Pentium M (as in the chip used in the "Centrino" brand). not correct for EM64T Xeon/Pentium4's, which should use a -em64t-p4 kernel |
| 19:08 | <chealer> | icarus: i386 is for i686 (among others) |
| 19:08 | <abrotman> | that wasn't a helpful factoid :) |
| 19:09 | <abrotman> | icarus: what is your actual CPU ? |
| 19:09 | <icarus> | ok thaintel core2duo |
| 19:09 | <chealer> | kaltrops: a real hang is usually a bug... |
| 19:09 | * | chealer goes to eat |
| 19:09 | <abrotman> | if you have a 64bit core2 .. you can use i386 or amd64 .. both will work, though if it's just a desktop, i386 should be perfectly fine |
| 19:10 | <icarus> | it is a laptop |
| 19:10 | <kaltrops> | chealer: yeah mount -v hangs then says input output error |
| 19:10 | <abrotman> | icarus: same idea |
| 19:10 | <icarus> | sorry compleate new fag :S |
| 19:10 | <kaltrops> | should I stop trying to use nfs4? |
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| 19:11 | <icarus> | well thank you everyone |
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| 19:14 | <kaltrops> | so what would be the simplist, easiest way to share a single folder to the entire network with NFS? |
| 19:14 | <kaltrops> | because NFS4 just isnt working |
| 19:15 | <kaltrops> | this is my first time with NFS so im probably just screwing something up, yet I have looked over everything |
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| 19:22 | <aisha> | hi |
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| 19:25 | <winpower> | hi |
| 19:25 | <bja> | hi |
| 19:26 | <bja> | Why did you change your nick? |
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| 19:29 | <winpower> | :) |
| 19:31 | <winpower> | why ubuntu is too slow on my computer |
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| 19:31 | <abrotman> | winpower: ask #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net |
| 19:31 | <themill> | winpower: you'd have to ask them |
| 19:31 | <bcstech> | i would like to know what program i can install to setup a virtual pc on debian to run windows xp pro |
| 19:32 | <abrotman> | bcstech: qemu? vmware? |
| 19:32 | <abrotman> | vbox ? |
| 19:32 | <themill> | kvm |
| 19:32 | <winpower> | virtual box |
| 19:32 | <bcstech> | okay kvm or virtual box |
| 19:32 | <bcstech> | can it get it in aptitude |
| 19:33 | <winpower> | try apt-get virtualbox.deb |
| 19:33 | <jrabbit> | the Vbox in testing isn't recent |
| 19:33 | <bcstech> | thanks |
| 19:33 | <jrabbit> | I'd use one of their repos if you're intrested |
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| 19:33 | <abrotman> | winpower: that's not a valid command or package |
| 19:34 | <themill> | winpower: how about you try that command yourself... |
| 19:34 | <jrabbit> | its based in QT |
| 19:34 | <bja> | bcstech: kvm is hw dependent beware |
| 19:34 | <jrabbit> | so you'll drag in KDE if you don't have it |
| 19:34 | <bcstech> | so then vbox is the way to go |
| 19:34 | <jrabbit> | stupid apt thinking QT == KDE :P |
| 19:34 | <bcstech> | i have kde4 |
| 19:34 | <jrabbit> | yeah try virtual box then |
| 19:35 | <jrabbit> | on the website they have the apt repos |
| 19:35 | <jrabbit> | choose the one for your release of debian |
| 19:35 | <jrabbit> | and follow the steps on the page |
| 19:35 | <jrabbit> | you'll get the msot recent Virtualbox |
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| 19:35 | <winpower> | well i am new in ubuntu |
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| 19:36 | <abrotman> | winpower: ask #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net |
| 19:36 | <bcstech> | what website |
| 19:36 | <winpower> | what is the ubuntu command if you |
| 19:36 | <winpower> | know |
| 19:36 | <jrabbit> | !ubuntu |
| 19:36 | <dpkg> | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 19:37 | <jrabbit> | bcstech: http://www.virtualbox.org/ |
| 19:37 | <bcstech> | thanks |
| 19:37 | <themill> | jrabbit: "aptitude install virtualbox-ose" doesn't install any KDE stuff at all. |
| 19:37 | <abrotman> | winpower: /server irc.freenode.net .. then type /join #ubuntu |
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| 19:37 | <jrabbit> | themill: I don't know about the one in deian. |
| 19:37 | <jrabbit> | that one is like 2.6 |
| 19:38 | <themill> | jrabbit: this is #debian. |
| 19:38 | <jrabbit> | I was looking at running 3.0.x on my box but gave up seeing kde XD |
| 19:38 | <jrabbit> | themill: Yes and its old. |
| 19:38 | <jrabbit> | Security flaws you know. |
| 19:38 | <themill> | judd versions virtualbox-ose |
| 19:38 | <judd> | themill: virtualbox-ose -- etch-backports: 1.6.6-dfsg-3~bpo40+1 lenny: 1.6.6-dfsg-3 lenny-backports: 2.1.4-dfsg-1~bpo50+1 squeeze: 2.1.4-dfsg-1 sid: 3.0.2-dfsg-1 |
| 19:38 | <themill> | 3.0.2? |
| 19:38 | <winpower> | thanks i am of to ubuntu and will be back tomorrow |
| 19:39 | <jrabbit> | huh? |
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| 19:39 | <jrabbit> | you want to explain apt-pinning to soemone jsut to isntall a package? |
| 19:39 | <themill> | (and that doesn't drag in kde) |
| 19:39 | <jrabbit> | That's not fair and you know it. |
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| 19:39 | <abrotman> | as opposed to installing from the website and how to clean it up later ? |
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| 19:41 | <bcstech> | thanks i hope it works |
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| 19:42 | <bcstech> | i am attempting to setup global vpn from sonicwall and I cant install on debian so maybe I can do it though the vbox any comments would be great |
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| 19:44 | <jrabbit> | abrotman: huh? they run repos with the latest ones only real issue is its not a DFSG compatable one I don't think |
| 19:44 | <johns> | Trying out GNOME, first time in a long time. What do I do if the greeter keeps crashing? It says it is trying a different one, but I never get a login. |
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| 19:44 | <johns> | This is on unstable, and I think I may have made it unhappy by telling it to make the on-screen keyboard available. |
| 19:44 | <jrabbit> | johns: go to a terminal and login? |
| 19:44 | <johns> | jrabbit: Yes, that's how I'm talking to you now :P |
| 19:44 | <jrabbit> | ah ok |
| 19:45 | <jrabbit> | you shoudl be able to startx and get into gnome's prefrences |
| 19:45 | <jaremey> | i just reinstalled ubuntu 9.04 and my firefox is running 3.1. i cant add fireftp without updating it. i downloaded the 3.5 version and i cant get it to work. is there something i need to do? |
| 19:45 | <jrabbit> | it could be something exploded and theres an update did you check that? |
| 19:45 | <bremner> | !tell jaremey -about ubuntu |
| 19:45 | <johns> | jrabbit: Yeah, I tried gconf-editor, but it says it can't access the configuration server |
| 19:45 | <jrabbit> | hm |
| 19:46 | <jrabbit> | johns: ps aux | grep gnome or the relevant bits |
| 19:46 | <jrabbit> | it could be still running |
| 19:46 | <jrabbit> | and causing a clash |
| 19:46 | <johns> | jrabbit: I don't see anything gnome-ish running |
| 19:46 | <jrabbit> | Sounds like something broke in gnome's core |
| 19:46 | <johns> | I mean, it was working fine, then I changed the screen option and logged out. |
| 19:46 | <jrabbit> | I'd say give it a dist-upgrade and a reboot |
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| 19:47 | <johns> | by screen option I mean on-screen-keyboard |
| 19:47 | <jrabbit> | hm maybe you can fidn the file that has the GDM info |
| 19:47 | <jrabbit> | I assume it's in /etc |
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| 19:47 | <jrabbit> | lemme look for mine |
| 19:47 | <jrabbit> | /etc/gdm/gdm.conf |
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| 19:48 | <jrabbit> | it also has a log you might want to read in the usual place |
| 19:48 | <johns> | Yeah, I grepped for keyboard or gok in there and didn't see anything |
| 19:48 | <jrabbit> | Hm |
| 19:48 | <jrabbit> | Do you require the OSK? |
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| 19:48 | <jrabbit> | could we remove it? |
| 19:49 | <johns> | jrabbit: Yeah, since it's a tablet I'd like to have that |
| 19:49 | <jrabbit> | well maybe if we remove it it won't break gnome for now... |
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| 19:55 | <jaremey> | i just reinstalled ubuntu 9.04 and my firefox is running 3.1. i cant add fireftp without updating it. i downloaded the 3.5 version and i cant get it to work. is there something i need to do? |
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| 19:56 | <jrabbit> | !ubuntu |
| 19:56 | <dpkg> | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 19:56 | <jrabbit> | oh he left |
| 19:56 | <jrabbit> | :D |
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| 20:01 | <cozzie> | hello everyone. Im having a major problem with debian 5.0.2 |
| 20:02 | <Slurb> | !ask |
| 20:02 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 20:02 | <bcstech> | okay really stupid question how do I know which module to install for vbox |
| 20:03 | <bcstech> | i have a intel centrino duo dell latitude d520 |
| 20:03 | <Slurb> | bcstech: modprobe vboxdrv for virtualbox |
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| 20:03 | <bcstech> | i did that it says not found |
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| 20:04 | <bcstech> | so now i am looking for the right module for my system |
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| 20:04 | <Slurb> | how did you install virtualbox |
| 20:04 | <bcstech> | i installed virtualbox-ose |
| 20:05 | <bcstech> | in aptitude |
| 20:05 | <cozzie> | I just did 2 installs of Debian 5.0.2, and by default, gnome-network & pidgin was not install, is there a problem with the build? |
| 20:05 | <rudi_s_> | cozzie: aptitude install pidgin? |
| 20:06 | <Slurb> | bcstech: sudo aptitude intall virtualbox-ose-modules |
| 20:06 | <Zoe> | I have lenny installed and I've always used apt-get to install packages, if I want to upgrade to squeeze should I use apt-get or is it safe to use aptitude considering that all packages were installed with apt-get? |
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| 20:06 | <bcstech> | okay let me try |
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| 20:06 | <cozzie> | rudi_s_: I have, Im curious as of why is build 5.0.2 messed up... |
| 20:07 | <themill> | Zoe: aptitude is preferred. Just be careful that aptitude doesn't suddenly want to uninstall lots of things on you and "/msg dpkg autoremove" if it does |
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| 20:08 | <bcstech> | okay it installed |
| 20:08 | <Zoe> | ok, thanks |
| 20:09 | <bcstech> | then i run the modprobe vboxdev it says module not found |
| 20:10 | <themill> | !vbox |
| 20:10 | <dpkg> | i guess virtualbox is a virtual machine solution. VirtualBox Open Source Edition (OSE) is available for Lenny and as a backport for Etch. Ask me about <vbox-install lenny>, <vbox-install etch>, <vbox-install squeeze>. http://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/User_FAQ http://www.virtualbox.org/ #vbox on irc.freenode.net. See also <virtualization>. |
| 20:10 | <bcstech> | vbox-install lenny |
| 20:11 | <bcstech> | let me check out the pages |
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| 20:12 | <rudi_s_> | cozzie: What do you mean with messed up? |
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| 20:15 | <cozzie> | rudi_s_: my keyboard was set to gb_utf8 and somehow its usa (@=", #=\) some essiantial software is missing (network-manager, pidgin)... and thats the stuff that i have noticed soo far... |
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| 20:20 | <rudi_s_> | cozzie: /msg dpkg keymap for your keyboard problem. To install the software run aptitude install piding/network-manager. |
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| 20:23 | <cozzie> | rudi_s_: thanks, im just going to install the base system then manually install the rest of my system to make sure nothing is missing... Its strange that 5.0.2 seems to not install correctly.. thanks again |
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| 20:23 | <rudi_s_> | cozzie: Sorry, but I don't get your problem. Why do you expect pidgin to be present on a default install? |
| 20:24 | <chealer> | cozzie: neither network-manager nor pidgin are essential. you left Desktop environment selected during the install, right? |
| 20:24 | <cozzie> | rudi_s_: it was in release 5.0.0 & 5.0.1 |
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| 20:25 | <rudi_s_> | cozzie: Oh, didn't know that. But installing it with aptitude shouldn't be a problem. |
| 20:25 | <cozzie> | chealer: yes, gnome's gui was installed, but network-manager wasn't.. |
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| 20:26 | <adb> | cozzie: network-manager is a extra , don't needed anyways |
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| 20:27 | <chealer> | cozzie: how did you install? |
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| 20:28 | <cozzie> | chealer: 5.0.2 amd64 dvd-1 |
| 20:28 | <chealer> | cozzie: did you do anything particular during the install? |
| 20:30 | <cozzie> | chealer: nope, just selected united kingdon, gb.utf8 & AT keyboard |
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| 20:30 | <chealer> | cozzie: what is the locale on the installed system? |
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| 20:32 | <fgh> | im trying to run this: http://wiki.debian.org/BootingFromFloppyToUsb but where can i find floppy/boot.img ? |
| 20:33 | <abrotman> | i think only available for etch |
| 20:33 | <cozzie> | fgh: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/ |
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| 20:34 | <fgh> | etch is 4.0? |
| 20:34 | <adama> | fgh: true |
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| 20:35 | <cozzie> | fgh: once you install etch, you can upgrade to lenny |
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| 20:36 | <wilberfan> | when i boot squeeze with my webcam plugged in, i get no audio. i think the built-in mic is confusing alsa? any idea how i can fix this? |
| 20:36 | <fgh> | ye i know. just wanted to install a clean stable/lenny system without upgrades etc |
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| 20:36 | <cozzie> | chealer: I installed gb_utf.8 only |
| 20:37 | <fgh> | im running testing/sid now on the machine and just too lazy to pop the computercover to connect the cdrom :) |
| 20:38 | <chealer> | cozzie: so there's no problem for the locale proper? |
| 20:38 | <adb> | fgh: debootstrap lenny lenny , will get you a "clean" lenny medium |
| 20:39 | <craigevil> | wilberfan: open alsamixer and see if the cam speaker/mic shows up |
| 20:39 | <chealer> | wilberfan: does unplugging and replugging help? |
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| 20:40 | <fgh> | adb: didnt know about that. got some stuff to read now, thank you |
| 20:40 | <wilberfan> | well it's working this time... [blush] i might have been premature in my panic... |
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| 20:41 | <bcstech> | how do i read a key on the cdrom where can i access it |
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| 20:43 | <cozzie> | chealer: yes there is, its somehow installed 'us'. imho i think something is wrong with the debian build, i will go through it manually to fix this. thanks for your support though |
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| 20:46 | <chealer> | cozzie: so just the keyboard layout, not the locale (output) itself? |
| 20:46 | <fgh> | so with debootstrap i can install my new lenny system from my sid-install and when configured and ready i can boot into lenny and remove sid? |
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| 20:49 | <adb> | fgh: if you debootstrap it in a new partition this plan may be doable |
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| 20:50 | <fgh> | too bad i dont have any unused space left then.. |
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| 20:50 | <adb> | resize some partition ? |
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| 20:52 | <fgh> | that crossed my mind but i have never done it before and dont know about any resizeprogram |
| 20:52 | <cozzie> | fgh: gparted is easy to use |
| 20:53 | <fgh> | you guys are very helpful, ill have a look at that aswell then |
| 20:53 | <fgh> | thanks :) |
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| 20:54 | <fgh> | or maybe i should just turn off power bend down and connect cdrom. but would be nice if i could run my old sid system undtil new one is completely ready :) |
| 20:55 | <fgh> | and in this way i might have a chance, right? |
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| 20:57 | <adb> | anyways it seems you need a new partition |
| 20:57 | <cozzie> | fgh: in my opinion, it is always better to install from a cd... |
| 20:57 | <adb> | i agree .. |
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| 20:59 | <fgh> | yep. feels like ill go for a 502 netinstall iso |
| 20:59 | <fgh> | after gparted have done magics :) |
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| 21:00 | <fgh> | i just dont understand why i should be so hard to stay away from testing version |
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| 21:02 | <adb> | which testing version? |
| 21:02 | <adb> | lenny ? |
| 21:02 | <fgh> | no, squeeze |
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| 21:07 | <Kaharun> | A |
| 21:07 | <Kaharun> | Salam |
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| 21:07 | <Slurb> | !salam |
| 21:07 | <dpkg> | salam is probably hello |
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| 21:08 | <cozzie> | oh lol!! I just dd if=/home/user/Desktop/boot.img of=/dev/hda |
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| 21:16 | <fgh> | hmm, i want to resize / but cant since its mounted and has to be |
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| 21:17 | <Slurb> | fgh you have to use a live cd or usbstick |
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| 21:23 | <Slurb> | how do i get irssi to stop showing joins and parts |
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| 21:25 | <vvas> | Slurb: /ignore #debian JOINS PARTS QUITS |
| 21:26 | <vvas> | Slurb: (it's what i've done) |
| 21:26 | <Slurb> | i just tried something |
| 21:26 | <Slurb> | /set channel_sync off |
| 21:26 | <Slurb> | i dont know if it will work |
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| 21:27 | <Slurb> | it seems to have |
| 21:27 | <vvas> | " |
| 21:27 | <vvas> | Set whether irssi should synchronize a channel on join. When enabled, irssi will gather extra information about a channel: modes, who list, ban list, ban exceptions, and invite list. |
| 21:28 | <Slurb> | hmm |
| 21:28 | <vvas> | " doesn't seem very relevant (or useful to switch it off) |
| 21:28 | <Slurb> | i think it turned off the join part quit messages though |
| 21:28 | <Slurb> | not sure yet |
| 21:28 | <vvas> | Slurb, what i offered *does* work. ignore it at your peril :^) |
| 21:29 | <Slurb> | i know i want something permanent |
| 21:29 | <vvas> | it *is* permanent, irssi saves the ignore list |
| 21:29 | <Slurb> | oh |
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| 21:30 | <vvas> | anyway, off to sleep i go |
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| 21:30 | <Slurb> | thx for the advice |
| 21:30 | <vvas> | n/p |
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| 21:43 | <Sixface> | hello... |
| 21:43 | <Sixface> | anyone here |
| 21:43 | * | olasd looks around |
| 21:43 | <abrotman> | look under the table |
| 21:43 | * | olasd looks under the table |
| 21:44 | <Sixface> | how to type like a narration /?? |
| 21:44 | <Sixface> | like the above |
| 21:44 | <olasd> | /me does stuff |
| 21:44 | <olasd> | anyway, what was your real question? |
| 21:45 | * | Sixface understand.. |
| 21:45 | * | Sixface got it |
| 21:45 | <Sixface> | so.. what is everyone doing here |
| 21:46 | <olasd> | I think everyone is waiting eagerly for your question |
| 21:47 | <Sixface> | ha ha |
| 21:48 | <Sixface> | so... where are you from.. olasd ?? |
| 21:48 | <olasd> | I'm not sure it's quite on topic |
| 21:49 | <abrotman> | !ot |
| 21:49 | <dpkg> | Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic (i.e. Debian support); imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. #debian-offtopic is the place for longer off-topic discussions. |
| 21:50 | <Sixface> | ok ok.. |
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| 21:53 | <lainox> | #debian-es |
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| 22:04 | <kmonk> | anyone else having problems apt-getting gtk1.2? |
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| 22:04 | <abrotman> | need more details |
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| 22:05 | <kmonk> | it would appear to be missing from the sid repositories |
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| 22:06 | <kmonk> | libgtk1.2 to be specific |
| 22:07 | <johns> | I turned on debug in gdm, not seeing anything that looks very strange in the logs though |
| 22:07 | <johns> | except for the humorous statement of failure |
| 22:07 | <johns> | Jul 21 21:40:40 myles gdm[12093]: WARNING: failsafe dialog failed |
| 22:09 | <kmonk> | what's wrong john, being dropped to terminal? |
| 22:09 | <johns> | kmonk: gdm reporting that the greeter has crashed, and trying again, and again... |
| 22:09 | <kmonk> | ok |
| 22:10 | <abrotman> | kmonk: deprecated, removed .. why woudl you want it ? |
| 22:10 | <dr|z3d> | johns: You could install slim, as a workaround. |
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| 22:10 | <kmonk> | ctrl-alt into a different terminal, killall gdm, and just try startx |
| 22:10 | <johns> | kmonk: yes, that works |
| 22:11 | <kmonk> | for the exact same reason johns having problems, old established methods work |
| 22:11 | <abrotman> | kmonk: why do you want gtk1.2? |
| 22:11 | <kmonk> | not having gtk1.2 invalidates every program designed before gtk2 .. there's thousands of them |
| 22:12 | <johns> | kmonk: but my goal here is to get the display manager working with an on-screen keyboard |
| 22:12 | <abrotman> | great .. since gtk1.x has been dead upstream for .. forever ? |
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| 22:12 | <kmonk> | good apps, without replacements, like xoscope.. that's the one i want right now, it's in the repo !! |
| 22:12 | <abrotman> | kmonk: get gtk1.2 from lenny |
| 22:12 | <abrotman> | his problem isn't related to yours |
| 22:13 | <abrotman> | kmonk: xoscope in debian ? |
| 22:13 | <kmonk> | yeah man |
| 22:13 | <chealer> | kmonk: people should generally not use unstable as a default release. reinstall stable or testing |
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| 22:14 | <kmonk> | -most- people should not :) |
| 22:15 | <kmonk> | ok i'll get gtk1.2 from lenny thanks abrotman |
| 22:15 | <abrotman> | kmonk: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=515989 |
| 22:16 | <abrotman> | and http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=534060 |
| 22:16 | <abrotman> | and http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=537291 |
| 22:16 | <abrotman> | you should have at least checked the BTS .. |
| 22:16 | <abrotman> | only three related bugs .. and you couldn't figure out what was going on .. sounds like you shouldn't be running unstable either |
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| 22:18 | <kmonk> | i have apt-listbugs read me the latest bugs |
| 22:18 | <kmonk> | it's easier |
| 22:18 | <abrotman> | and you still couldn't figure it out? |
| 22:18 | <kmonk> | no, it's just not on the repo anymore >_< |
| 22:18 | <abrotman> | xoscope is .. those bugs are all on xoscope |
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| 22:19 | <kmonk> | oh right, no it wont install because libgtk1.2 isn't on the repo, which xoscope depends apon |
| 22:19 | <abrotman> | so .. apt-listbugs on xoscope was hard? |
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| 22:21 | <kmonk> | it's an outrage |
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| 22:21 | <kmonk> | nothing wrong with gtk1.2 |
| 22:21 | <kmonk> | but anyway i'll take it to the dev's bye bye |
| 22:21 | <abrotman> | it's dead upstream |
| 22:21 | <johns> | should gdm.conf have something under [greeter]? |
| 22:21 | <kmonk> | and replaced by what? kde4? gimme a break |
| 22:22 | <abrotman> | GTK2 ? |
| 22:22 | <abrotman> | hard to imagine .. i know |
| 22:22 | <kmonk> | gtk2 isn't backwards compatible |
| 22:22 | <abrotman> | it's not supposed to be .. |
| 22:22 | <kmonk> | and is therefore not a replacement |
| 22:22 | <abrotman> | do you realize that the gtk1.2 line started over 10 years ago ... |
| 22:23 | <abrotman> | oh forget it .. enjoy your broken bits |
| 22:23 | <kmonk> | so? |
| 22:23 | <kmonk> | you still use bash every time you turn your computer on, it was made like, 20 years ago |
| 22:23 | <abrotman> | quit whining and step up and maintain it .. no one else expects it to run forever |
| 22:23 | <kmonk> | good point :> |
| 22:24 | <abrotman> | gtk2 has been around since 2002 .. if your app hasn't been ported, you're either lazy or have no users |
| 22:25 | <craigevil> | kmonk: just get xoscope from its homepage> Version 2.0 is a major release, and the first xoscope release to use GTK+ 2.0 exclusively. |
| 22:25 | <kmonk> | legend :) hi craigevil |
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| 23:06 | <ntrock> | Hola amigos, tengo un Problema, e Instalado debian en una PC antigua que estoy reviviendo :P, y que trae integrada una Tarjeta de video NVIDIA TNT y no se que pasa pero mi resolucion no es mayor a 800x600 y quisiera aunque sea mis Habituales 1024x768 e leido que esos drivers ya no son incluidos en DEBIAN, me prodrian ayudar a solucionar mi problema ? |
| 23:07 | <dkr> | !es |
| 23:07 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 23:08 | <ntrock> | o_0 |
| 23:08 | <ntrock> | sorry |
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| 23:11 | <kmonk-bze> | hmm, when a program references for a audio device name, it's liek... hw0,0 or something >_< |
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| 23:12 | <bernardo> | hello |
| 23:12 | <kmonk-bze> | hi |
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| 23:24 | <southernc> | anyone know why when trying to compile anything i get this error The file /usr/src/linux-2.6.30.2/include/linux/version.h does not exist. |
| 23:24 | <southernc> | do i have to create a symlink or something |
| 23:24 | <johns> | southernc: do you have the headers package installed? |
| 23:24 | <southernc> | yes |
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| 23:26 | <southernc> | is there anyway i can cheat and make a version.h file... |
| 23:27 | <chealer> | southernc: like what? |
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| 23:28 | <southernc> | i dunno someway to be able to compile stuff |
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| 23:32 | <southernc> | or how you create one... |
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| 23:34 | <chealer> | southernc: compile anything like what? |
| 23:34 | <southernc> | it doesnt matter everything complains about no version.h |
| 23:34 | <southernc> | alsa sound drivers |
| 23:34 | <southernc> | fglrxxxxxxxxxxxxx |
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| 23:35 | <Jason1> | how do I burn a .xvid format? |
| 23:35 | <Jason1> | format CD? |
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| 23:36 | <christian> | hi where can find a source list complete for debian lenny ! |
| 23:36 | <Jason1> | I meant xvid format CD |
| 23:36 | <craigevil> | !tell christian about sources.list |
| 23:36 | <southernc> | google |
| 23:37 | <chealer> | southernc: these are both LKM-s |
| 23:37 | <christian> | ok thats complete, i mean for firefox, and that things ! |
| 23:37 | <craigevil> | firefox is iceweasel |
| 23:37 | <southernc> | just add main contrib -non-free to end of your already repos |
| 23:38 | <southernc> | non-free* |
| 23:38 | <southernc> | chealer, could you be more specific |
| 23:38 | <christian> | ho okay |
| 23:38 | <christian> | thanks alot ! |
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| 23:38 | <christian> | )( |
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| 23:39 | <chealer> | southernc: why would one do that? |
| 23:39 | <southernc> | why would one want sound ? |
| 23:39 | <craigevil> | christian: if you want a quick way to install all of the multimedia stuff take a look at > http://www.linuxquestions.org/blog/craigevil-176422/2009/7/7/easy-way-to-install-multimedia-codecs-flash-java-mplayer-2092/ |
| 23:40 | <chealer> | southernc: if you just get the error when trying to compile fglrx and alsa sound drivers, that's not when trying to compile anything, that must be when trying to compile LKM-s |
| 23:40 | <southernc> | or a video card that keeps crashing with reg non-propriety drivers |
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| 23:40 | <chealer> | southernc: why would one add main contrib -non-free ? |
| 23:41 | <southernc> | i corrected it |
| 23:41 | <christian> | oki:D, i need install spanish language whats the package |
| 23:42 | <adb> | for ? |
| 23:43 | <chealer> | christian: there is no way to install translations for a language for all programs (except installing packages one by one). |
| 23:43 | <Jason1> | true |
| 23:44 | <christian> | i need install spanish languge only are pack maybe language-es-pack |
| 23:44 | <christian> | or smthing |
| 23:45 | <christian> | apt-get install language-pack-kde-es << y try this but says dont found |
| 23:46 | <chealer> | christian: unfortunately, as I wrote, there is basically no way to install translations for a language for all programs. |
| 23:46 | <adb> | dpkg-reconfigure locales ? |
| 23:48 | <craigevil> | christian: apt-get install kde-i18n-es |
| 23:48 | <christian> | nice:) |
| 23:49 | <christian> | for my keyboard i need change it to espanol |
| 23:49 | <Jason1> | nice |
| 23:49 | <christian> | i founded ! |
| 23:49 | <Jason1> | good boy? |
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| 23:51 | <Jason1> | !win christian |
| 23:51 | <dpkg> | Congratulations, christian! You have won the US presidency! |
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| 23:54 | <ml|> | anybody else getting this at boot... Not starting internet superserver: no services enabled ?? I have read that xinetd is a better option than using openbsd-inetd. Is this really needed? |
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| 23:55 | <Jason1> | I dunno |
| 23:56 | <jmarsden> | ml|: inetd or xientd are only needed if you want to run services that use them. |
| 23:56 | <jmarsden> | *xinetd |
| 23:56 | <adb> | ml|: /etc/inetd.conf is empty by default in lenny |
| 23:56 | <ml|> | jmarsden: ok, that's what i thought just making sure |
| 23:56 | <craigevil> | xinetd: Installed: (none) openbsd-inetd: Installed: (none), neither one is needed on a desktop really |
| 23:56 | <ml|> | thanks |
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| 23:57 | <jmarsden> | No problem. |
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| 23:57 | <christian> | :P |
| 23:57 | <Jason1> | :P |
| 23:58 | <ml|> | adb: mine is not, testing |
| 23:58 | <ml|> | craigevil: thanks |
| 23:59 | <ml|> | you guys confired my suspicion's, thanks again :) |
| --- | Log | closed Wed Jul 22 00:00:47 2009 |
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