| --- | Log | opened Fri Jun 26 00:00:19 2009 |
| --- | Day | changed Fri Jun 26 2009 |
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| 00:05 | <geezar> | hey guys |
| 00:05 | <geezar> | there is somebody there that can help me |
| 00:06 | <geezar> | hello |
| 00:06 | <Nemoder> | !ask |
| 00:06 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 00:06 | <geezar> | debian comunity |
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| 00:08 | <geezar> | im new here i live in el salvador and i dont speak english pretty well |
| 00:08 | <geezar> | can somebody help |
| 00:08 | <Nemoder> | !es |
| 00:08 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 00:08 | <geezar> | ok muchas gracias |
| 00:09 | <geezar> | hey gracias |
| 00:09 | <compgrokker> | you're welcome |
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| 00:13 | <epsas> | win 8 |
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| 00:22 | <southernc> | anybody know how to get xfi xtreme audio drivers to work with lenny ? |
| 00:22 | <southernc> | cause kinda sucks without sound... |
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| 00:23 | <prahal> | edid detection by xorg is not working anymore . Is this an xorg-core issue or a driver issue ? And if the former has anyone else encountered it since last upgrade of xorg-xserver-core a few days a go in unstable ? |
| 00:24 | <Nemoder> | southernc: http://wiki.debian.org/X-Fi |
| 00:24 | <southernc> | already tried that |
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| 00:24 | <southernc> | Creative have released 32-bit and 64-bit yet unfortunately proprietary drivers for their X-Fi series of cards (this excludes the Xtreme Audio as it not based on the emu20k1 chip) |
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| 00:27 | <Nemoder> | I hear OSS4 has better drivers for x-fi but I don't know much about it |
| 00:27 | <DaveLib> | hello i was looking for some general advice to get me started on local networking in Debian |
| 00:27 | <Nemoder> | DaveLib: man interfaces |
| 00:28 | <DaveLib> | thanks Nemoder |
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| 00:29 | <prahal> | southernc: it does not help but those drivers are told to be gpl |
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| 00:31 | <southernc> | thatd be good if i found one that worked lol |
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| 00:31 | <prahal> | sorry I have a hard time finding out anything on xtreme audio but not x-fi extreme audio ... are they not the same ? |
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| 00:33 | <southernc> | its Xfi xtreme audio |
| 00:33 | <southernc> | X-fi |
| 00:34 | <prahal> | http://www.mail-archive.com/alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net/msg21618.html seems to suggest it is in alsa (maybe not the kernel in lenny default ... |
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| 00:35 | <southernc> | im trying that right now |
| 00:35 | <southernc> | i found http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Creative_Labs |
| 00:35 | <southernc> | but not sure yet if its gonna work |
| 00:36 | <gsimmons> | southernc: The page on debwiki is hideously out of date, Creative's GPL'd drivers are now in ALSA's driver snapshot as snd-ctxfi. The Xtreme Audio differs due to its chipset, which exact device do you have? (e.g. 'lspci -v' at a pastebin). |
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| 00:39 | <southernc> | http://debian.pastebin.com/maa39019 |
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| 00:39 | <southernc> | i dont know if thats there cause i tried installing the drivers through that wikki page or notr |
| 00:40 | <southernc> | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102007 |
| 00:40 | <southernc> | but thats the card i have |
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| 00:47 | <gsimmons> | southernc: Can you provide its vendor and device codes? (lspci -nn | grep audio) |
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| 00:47 | <southernc> | 03:00.1 Audio device [0403]: ATI Technologies Inc HD48x0 audio [1002:aa30] |
| 00:47 | <southernc> | 05:09.0 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Creative Labs SB X-Fi [1102:0005] |
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| 00:49 | <southernc> | this is the only one i could find |
| 00:49 | <southernc> | alsa-driver-unstable-snapshot |
| 00:49 | <southernc> | and the directions for installing it i dont really understand.. |
| 00:50 | <southernc> | http://debian.pastebin.com/m586ae401 |
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| 00:55 | <prahal> | http://www.mail-archive.com/alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net/msg21618.html has an example of build process |
| 00:57 | <southernc> | ah ok thanks |
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| 01:13 | <southernc> | yeay it worked |
| 01:13 | <southernc> | FINALLY |
| 01:13 | <southernc> | i never thought michael jacksons video on you tube would sound so good |
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| 01:17 | <gsimmons> | southernc: Good to know. Can you pastebin "cat /proc/asound/cards" somewhere? |
| 01:18 | <southernc> | yup one sec |
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| 01:18 | <RedMaw> | how do you run as super user from the shell? |
| 01:19 | <southernc> | su |
| 01:19 | <southernc> | or sudo |
| 01:19 | <southernc> | to run a command |
| 01:19 | <RedMaw> | sudo didn't work and I forgot to try su |
| 01:19 | <RedMaw> | didn't feel like like restarting without asking just in case it didn't work XD |
| 01:19 | <RedMaw> | thanks southernc |
| 01:20 | <southernc> | 0 [XFi ]: SB-XFi - Creative X-Fi |
| 01:20 | <southernc> | Creative X-Fi 20K1 SB073x |
| 01:20 | <southernc> | 1 [NVidia ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia |
| 01:20 | <southernc> | HDA NVidia at 0xcfff0000 irq 23 |
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| 01:20 | <southernc> | i did use the debian bot haha |
| 01:22 | <southernc> | Gsimmons i tried installing that other driver xfidrv-1.18.2.tgz how do i uninstall that now i dont see it in dpkg -l |
| 01:22 | <gsimmons> | southernc: Could you actually pastebin that, along with 'lsmod' output? I'm surprised that a "Xtreme Audio" device is appearing as EMU20K1 (was expecting CA0106). |
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| 01:22 | <southernc> | its giving me alot of output of errors on boot |
| 01:22 | <southernc> | oh ok yea |
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| 01:24 | <gsimmons> | southernc: (re xfidrv) You need to manually remove /etc/init.d/ctsound and whatever else it installed, as it is not a Debian package. |
| 01:24 | <southernc> | ahh didnt even think of that ok |
| 01:24 | <southernc> | thanks |
| 01:26 | <southernc> | http://debian.pastebin.com/m4cfdb4de |
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| 01:28 | <southernc> | thanks for the help |
| 01:28 | <gsimmons> | southernc: Thanks. You're using the snd-ctxfi driver for support of this device. Are you absolutely sure you purchased/acquired an "Xtreme Audio" branded card? |
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| 01:30 | <enouf> | gsimmons: fwiw, i see "Creative X-Fi" which to me == xf1del1ty crap |
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| 01:33 | <coki> | hola hay alguien? |
| 01:33 | <coki> | holaaaa |
| 01:34 | <snogglethorpe> | coka? |
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| 01:34 | <snogglethorpe> | colaaaa? |
| 01:34 | <southernc> | actually it might be a xtreme gamer |
| 01:35 | <southernc> | now that i think about it |
| 01:35 | <snogglethorpe> | dewwwwww |
| 01:35 | <southernc> | dont rmeber ive had it quite a while |
| 01:35 | <snogglethorpe> | hmm so when was mt dew last fashionable? |
| 01:36 | <snogglethorpe> | 1997? |
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| 01:37 | <snogglethorpe> | hmm |
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| 01:41 | <joseph> | i dont know why but when i run taksel on the console...it shows aptitude failed |
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| 01:41 | <enouf> | don't run tasksel? |
| 01:42 | <enouf> | why on earth would you? |
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| 01:46 | <gsimmons> | southernc: Right, that would explain 0005 (instead of 0007) for the device code. Thanks for the details. |
| 01:47 | <joseph> | enouf; its my project to configure tasksel.... |
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| 01:48 | <joseph> | enouf; unexpectedly debian is working very slowly and the new tasks that i created yesterday were working file till yesterday...but today it doesn't seem to be working |
| 01:49 | <enouf> | joseph: your orig post equates to "when i start my computer, it doens't boot" |
| 01:50 | <enouf> | (and even your followups) |
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| 01:51 | <joseph> | enouf; the booting time has become slower and debian's taking time to load any pplications |
| 01:51 | <joseph> | enouf; the booting time has become slower and debian's taking time to load any applications |
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| 01:53 | <joseph> | enouf; any ide why i get the error aptitude failed (255) when i run tasksel |
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| 01:58 | <slush> | what happens if you run aptitude on its own? |
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| 02:10 | <enouf> | joseph: no |
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| 02:25 | <joseph> | enouf; i dont know why but when i run tasksel and after i select a task...it displays the progress bar..which doesn't make any progress |
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| 02:26 | <nikobit> | hello, there! |
| 02:26 | <MercinovA> | # I'm new to linux, so I'm familiar with proper protocol...can someone please direct me to the proper channel for help with getting my 5.1 Audio working? |
| 02:26 | <MercinovA> | * unfamiliar |
| 02:28 | <nikobit> | i've installed lenny at my laptop. that is toshiba satellite a200-1gh. questions, comments? beleive not. everything works from the beginning! |
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| 02:30 | <MercinovA> | Lenny works great with just a bit of tweaking on system...all but the 5.1 Audio... |
| 02:30 | <MercinovA> | my system, that is... |
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| 02:31 | <nikobit> | ok, haven't meet that problem so far. search and you will be rewarded. good luck! |
| 02:32 | <MercinovA> | Anyone here have a nVidia High Definition Audio card with working 5.1? |
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| 02:33 | <gordon> | interesting |
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| 02:34 | <MercinovA> | kk...then...guess I'll just start blurting and hope someone finds interest... |
| 02:34 | <snogglethorpe> | uh oh |
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| 02:35 | <MercinovA> | alsamixer doesn't display all channels or a channel switch for my nVidia HDA...any takers? |
| 02:35 | <nikobit> | may be you're the first who faced this |
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| 02:36 | <MercinovA> | it's a new install...sound works great...but only getting 2 spkr setup on my HDA...no options to switch to 5.1 channels anywhere... |
| 02:37 | <MercinovA> | anyone have 5.1 audio working in 2.6.26-2-amd64? |
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| 02:40 | <MercinovA> | anyone who cares? *chirp-chirp* ....figures...hmph! |
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| 02:44 | <MercinovA> | I've altered the .asoundrc files as indicated by some forum posts, but to no avail...I've tinkered with the asound.conf and other parts...lost sound completely at one point and had to do a fresh install...this is getting rather frustrating... :( |
| 02:44 | <joseph> | the-dude; are you themill |
| 02:45 | <paistis> | MercinovA: you use pulseaudio? |
| 02:45 | <MercinovA> | Alsa |
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| 02:46 | <MercinovA> | not sure how to get pulseaudio working in Deb...new to linux and its not pre-installed on my system.. |
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| 02:47 | <event_done> | hey. how do i go about installing a video card driver for my video card? |
| 02:47 | <event_done> | ...starting with identifying my gpu |
| 02:48 | <the-dude> | joseph: no :) |
| 02:48 | <MercinovA> | sound system is set to auto-detect...pulseaudio is not listed in the available sound architectures... |
| 02:48 | <MercinovA> | event_done: what type of card do you have? |
| 02:49 | <joseph> | the-dude; ok fine |
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| 02:52 | <MercinovA> | I love Lenny and would love even more to put Windows on the shelf forever, but little things like 5.1 audio not working kinda kills it for me...Rest assure...I'll stick it out and send a Kill signal to MS! |
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| 02:53 | <nikobit> | must be other proprietary program that solves that |
| 02:54 | <MercinovA> | event_done: to identify your gpu...open a terminal window and type : lshw **if it says the command doesn't exist...open Kpackage and type lshw in the search under all packages and install it** |
| 02:54 | <event_done> | yeah. i found it |
| 02:54 | <event_done> | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. ProSavage KM133 (rev 03) |
| 02:54 | <event_done> | it |
| 02:54 | <event_done> | it's pretty old |
| 02:55 | <MercinovA> | yep...looks like a 4mb or 8mb card... |
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| 02:56 | <MercinovA> | I'd check DriverGuide.com for any available linux drivers first... |
| 02:57 | <vortex> | event_done: xserver-xorg-video-savage has support for ProSavage cards |
| 02:57 | <event_done> | thx |
| 02:57 | <vortex> | just apt-get install it |
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| 02:57 | <event_done> | seems like it's already installed |
| 02:58 | <vortex> | event_done: hmm, and X is not starting? |
| 02:58 | <event_done> | i have video. i mean x is running |
| 02:58 | <event_done> | guess it's already working |
| 02:58 | <vortex> | indeed it is |
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| 02:58 | <event_done> | agreed. well done old chap |
| 02:58 | * | event_done shoots himself |
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| 02:58 | <vortex> | =) |
| 03:00 | <slush> | lol |
| 03:00 | <MercinovA> | obviously event_done wasn't trying to install on a second system like I thott... |
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| 03:03 | <tanguy> | yop |
| 03:03 | <MercinovA> | can someone please direct me to a resolution for no 5.1 audio switch in alsamixer for my nVidia HDA? |
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| 03:03 | <Yoda-BZH`Wk> | plop/hi |
| 03:04 | <petern> | edit -> preferences -> add 'channel mode' ... maybe |
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| 03:05 | <petern> | oh wait, that's gnome's mixer :s |
| 03:05 | <MercinovA> | KDE here... |
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| 03:06 | <MercinovA> | I've tried adding ttables to .asoundrc...it doesn't affect anything... |
| 03:06 | <petern> | in alsamixer i have a channel mode control (cropped to 'channel ') which lets me pick 6ch or 8ch. it defaulted to 6ch, but didn't let me use multiple channels until i toggled it back to 6 ch |
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| 03:07 | <petern> | and i can use multiple channels with no .asoundrc |
| 03:07 | <MercinovA> | what type of sound card do you have? |
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| 03:07 | <petern> | hda intel, alc888 codec |
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| 03:08 | <MercinovA> | I have alc660, but I'm not getting the 6 ch option... |
| 03:08 | <MercinovA> | I have an old Dell SB Live! 5.1 and was only able to get 4.0 working with it... |
| 03:09 | <MercinovA> | and that was just an emulated 4.0... |
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| 03:12 | <MercinovA> | I'd be happy with just a 4.1 audio setup...my center is connected to my monitor and doesn't really have a good output...plus I prefer the spacial distance of left+right=center... |
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| 03:15 | <MercinovA> | is it possible to use gnome's mixer in KDE? |
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| 03:18 | <ghislainocfs2> | hello there |
| 03:19 | <ghislainocfs2> | i have a little aptitude question that perhaps someone can help here :) |
| 03:20 | <ghislainocfs2> | is there a way to automaticaly told aptitude to run a command before and after each install/purge (basicaly i need to mount a special tmp partition) |
| 03:20 | <MercinovA> | I installed gnome-mixer...works in KDE, but still don't have a 6 ch or even 5 ch option... :( |
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| 03:21 | <petern> | guess it doesn't have that option if it's 5.1 only |
| 03:22 | <MercinovA> | 6 ch is 5.1 |
| 03:22 | <petern> | yes |
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| 03:22 | <petern> | on mine the option is to toggle 5.1 or 7.1, so... |
| 03:23 | <petern> | what actually happens with 5.1 audio? |
| 03:23 | <MercinovA> | I can't even get 4 ch with alsa...and its an HDA card...it screams 5.1! |
| 03:23 | <MercinovA> | ugh! |
| 03:24 | <MercinovA> | did you install drivers for your card or was is "out of the box" ready? |
| 03:24 | <petern> | out of the box |
| 03:24 | <MercinovA> | dangit! |
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| 03:26 | <MercinovA> | guess the devs skipped over the alc660...actually its a alc66-vd... |
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| 03:30 | <MercinovA> | pardon...meant alc660-vd |
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| 03:46 | <MercinovA> | What do I need to do to get PulseAudio working? Will it conflict with ALSA? |
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| 03:51 | <petern> | pulseaudio uses alsa |
| 03:51 | <petern> | so it will 'conflict' in that it keeps the device open, preventing non-PA-capable programs from using alsa |
| 03:52 | <MercinovA> | k...many thnx! :) |
| 03:52 | <m2rk0> | how can I change in opera what to do with .torrent file. Opera want's to open it with opera transfer, but I want to use deluge |
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| 03:55 | <mhymn> | m2rk0: that's not a debian question at all, anyway you can always save .torrent file somewhere and open it with deluge or whatever else |
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| 03:56 | <m2rk0> | sorry, my bad. it's linux question. :D |
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| 03:57 | <MercinovA> | petern: thnx again for taking the time to help...possibly have a resolution...need to reboot... |
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| 04:23 | <valdyn> | petern umm wrong |
| 04:23 | <valdyn> | petern: a) pa doesnt keep devices open b) theres pasuspend on top of that |
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| 04:46 | <petern> | valdyn, oh, well, if something's using it, then it's open, and pasuspend isn't much help then ;) |
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| 04:59 | <joseph> | themill; there?? |
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| 05:04 | <joseph> | i have put the code of .desc file i created: http://paste.debian.net/40320/ I then ran tasksel in console and selected my tsk and then clicked ok..i get the progress bar...but there seems to be no progress even after waiting for a long time |
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| 05:08 | <Zviper> | does debian support ext4? |
| 05:09 | <themill> | joseph: your example worked for me without any problems |
| 05:09 | <themill> | dpkg: tell Zviper about ext4 |
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| 05:11 | <joseph> | themill; but in my system i dont know why this problem started from this morning....not able to get head/tail of whats happening |
| 05:11 | <themill> | joseph: what's the output of "apt-cache policy alsamixergui" |
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| 05:16 | <Zviper> | is it safe to ctrl+c this? it's taking ages |
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| 05:16 | <Zviper> | /home: Adding dirhash hint to filesystem. |
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| 05:18 | <themill> | Are you really asking "is it safe to stop the conversion of an ext3 filesystem to ext4 midway though the process"? |
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| 05:18 | <locklace> | !win Zviper |
| 05:18 | <dpkg> | Congratulations, Zviper! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
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| 05:19 | <dr|z3d> | themill: He wouldn't be asking that now, would he?! Seriously? :/ |
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| 05:20 | <dr|z3d> | Zviper: Stop a file conversion before it's done, you can kiss goodbye to your data. |
| 05:20 | <dr|z3d> | *filesystem |
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| 05:30 | <valdyn> | umm |
| 05:30 | <valdyn> | nonsense |
| 05:31 | <valdyn> | geez |
| 05:31 | <valdyn> | Zviper: im sure its documented, ctrl-c being safe is not unlikely |
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| 05:33 | <valdyn> | ctrl-c is *not* a SIGKILL. |
| 05:36 | <themill> | That's not to say that changes to the fs can be undone, however. AIUI, ext3->ext4 is not reversible. |
| 05:36 | <valdyn> | true |
| 05:36 | <themill> | dpkg, ext4->ext3 |
| 05:36 | <dpkg> | extra, extra, read all about it, ext4->ext3 is not possible. Once extents are enabled, it is an ext4 filesystem and cannot be reverted to ext3. http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions |
| 05:36 | <valdyn> | extents arent reversible |
| 05:37 | <valdyn> | but the conversion does not make files stored in extents |
| 05:37 | <valdyn> | storing new files makes it irreversible |
| 05:37 | <themill> | So the conversion takes ages, changes the on-disk format but in a completely backwards compatible way? |
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| 05:38 | <valdyn> | themill: i dont know, that is why i referred to docs |
| 05:38 | <valdyn> | themill: theres no conversion like that necessary eitehr |
| 05:39 | <vvas> | no, the conversion is quick but doesn't change anything for existing files |
| 05:39 | <valdyn> | hes adding dirhash |
| 05:39 | <vvas> | ah |
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| 05:39 | <themill> | I'm voting for it being one of these for which ^C is bad news |
| 05:39 | <joseph> | here it is: http://paste.debian.net/40321/ |
| 05:40 | <valdyn> | thats an ext3 feature already |
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| 05:40 | <valdyn> | and I think having hashes only for parts of your dirs shouldnt break anything |
| 05:40 | <valdyn> | but i dont know |
| 05:40 | <themill> | well, he wouldn't be doing this without backups, now, would he... so we can always find out |
| 05:41 | <valdyn> | actualy im pretty sure that it doesnt break anything to ctrl-c this |
| 05:41 | <valdyn> | but im not 100% sure |
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| 05:42 | <themill> | joseph: you can run tasksel in "test" mode (see the --test option in man tasksel) that prints out the command it would have aptitude run. Try running that from the terminal and see what happens. |
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| 05:42 | <themill> | joseph: (leave off the "debconf-apt-progress -- " at the start of the command) |
| 05:42 | <valdyn> | Zviper: in short, this is a relatively new ext3 feature that speeds up directory lookups, it shouldnt be dangerous in any way |
| 05:43 | <vvas> | Zviper: i'd try strace'ing it to see what it's doing |
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| 05:44 | <vvas> | Zviper: i assume you're not doing this on a mounted filesystem or anything silly like that |
| 05:44 | <themill> | I'd have thought about it more before deciding on a whim to change fs and then changing my mind about it 2 minutes later... |
| 05:44 | <joseph> | themill ;what do you mean by leave off |
| 05:44 | <themill> | joseph: omit |
| 05:47 | <valdyn> | themill: ctrl-c working at all when it breaks the fs is a serious bug |
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| 05:50 | <joseph> | themill ;here's what i got: http://paste.debian.net/40322/ |
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| 05:56 | <joseph> | themill; the debian is just like some egyptian mystery.....i wonder why it was working till yesterday |
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| 06:09 | <xmaster> | Witam wszystkich |
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| 06:10 | <dr|z3d> | !pl |
| 06:10 | <dpkg> | polska -> #debian.pl (on irc.freenode.net). Also, pl is a common extension for perl scripts and is sometimes used as an abbreviation for "packet loss". |
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| 06:22 | <enouf> | hrm.. |
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| 06:31 | <themill> | joseph: right -- so based on that output, you should run "aptitude -q --without-recommends -o APT::Install-Recommends=no -y install alsamixergui" and see what its output is. (btw that "--debconf-apt-progress options" looks wrong) |
| 06:32 | <jeremiah2> | What does this notation mean: 1:1.5.6.5-3+lenny1 |
| 06:32 | <jeremiah2> | Sorry, this one; git-core (<< 1:1.5.6.3-.) |
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| 06:32 | <jeremiah2> | The last . is kind of odd is it not? |
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| 06:42 | <Vanished> | hi there |
| 06:42 | <Vanished> | is it normal : the packet flashplayer-nonfree doesn't more exist |
| 06:42 | <Vanished> | ? |
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| 06:44 | <dr|z3d> | Vanished: flashplugin-nonfree .. |
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| 06:44 | <Vanished> | I understand |
| 06:44 | <Vanished> | thank you |
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| 06:48 | <joseph> | themill; yes it got installed..but first i got a problem saying that there was a lock on /usr/lib/dpkg/ this happened many times today though my synaptic manager was not open and not updates or installation was going on...so i manually killed it and then ran the command and got it successful...so whats the point in running this command now?? |
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| 06:54 | <GlenneMannen> | Anyone here know how to enable rt73 module on debian lenny ? |
| 06:54 | <gsimmons> | dpkg: tell GlenneMannen -about rt73 |
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| 06:55 | <GlenneMannen> | gsimmons I did that but the module still doesn't exist |
| 06:55 | <gsimmons> | GlenneMannen: Which module specifically? rt73usb or rt73? |
| 06:56 | <GlenneMannen> | both |
| 06:56 | <gsimmons> | GlenneMannen: That can't be, rt73usb is included in Debian kernel images. |
| 06:56 | <GlenneMannen> | modinfo rt73usb shows no module |
| 06:57 | <gsimmons> | GlenneMannen: Are you using a custom kernel? |
| 06:57 | <Vanished> | I have a problem with flashplugin-non-free : my computer is burning using this soft, its heat go on 80Ā°C and it reboot automatically, which alternative do I have for flash ? |
| 06:57 | <GlenneMannen> | gsimmons 2.6.8-3-686 #1 Tue Dec 5 21:26:38 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 06:57 | <dr|z3d> | Vanished: Try gnash, perhaps. |
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| 06:58 | <valdyn> | Vanished: none really |
| 06:58 | <Vanished> | erk |
| 06:58 | <valdyn> | Vanished: the alternatives are slower |
| 06:58 | <gsimmons> | GlenneMannen: Okay. This is the part where you look at the kernel's version. Note that rt73usb was added to mainline in 2.6.24. |
| 06:58 | <dr|z3d> | Vanished: You might also want to check the ventilation in your box. Sounds like you might have something failing. |
| 06:58 | <valdyn> | Vanished: beside that a box overhating by just cpu load like that is defective anyway |
| 06:58 | <GlenneMannen> | gsimmons ok so there is no support for that module in the later kernel ? |
| 06:59 | <Vanished> | ok thank you |
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| 07:00 | <valdyn> | amazing how mplayer can play easily where flash would cause 100% cpu usage |
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| 07:00 | <FourtyTruth> | flash go to trash |
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| 07:01 | <gsimmons> | GlenneMannen: The module is included as of 2.6.24. You're using 2.6.8 for some reason. |
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| 07:01 | <GlenneMannen> | ohh |
| 07:01 | <GlenneMannen> | *bonks self* |
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| 07:03 | <GlenneMannen> | forgive me but how do I upgrade the kernel to the latest version ? =) |
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| 07:03 | <themill> | sarge kernel ftw :) |
| 07:03 | <starenka> | hi, where can i get "getlibs"? the dl link everybody links seems to be down http://www.boundlesssupremacy.com/Cappy/getlibs/getlibs-all.deb |
| 07:03 | <gsimmons> | themill: Yes, I just thinking that. |
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| 07:04 | <themill> | GlenneMannen: perhaps you could pastebin the output of "dpkg -l libc6 apt dpkg aptitude perl" for us |
| 07:04 | <GlenneMannen> | themill ok |
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| 07:05 | <themill> | GlenneMannen: the output of "apt-cache policy" is probably the next question, btw :) |
| 07:06 | <GlenneMannen> | does dpkg have an paste function ? |
| 07:06 | <GlenneMannen> | in this ircserver that is |
| 07:06 | <gsimmons> | !paste |
| 07:06 | <dpkg> | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Just use pastebinit (package) if you cannot cut & paste. |
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| 07:07 | <themill> | or pipe to "nc paste.dyndns.org 1234" |
| 07:07 | <GlenneMannen> | themill http://paste.debian.net/40329 |
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| 07:07 | <themill> | GlenneMannen: ok, so the rest of your system seems to be updated to lenny, it's just that you have an ancient kernel. Things could be far worse. |
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| 07:08 | <GlenneMannen> | http://paste.debian.net/40330 |
| 07:08 | <themill> | !stable sources.list |
| 07:08 | <dpkg> | Despite the fact previous installers and countless websites will tell you to do this, do *not* use "stable" in your sources.list; use the release code name instead (e.g. "etch" or "lenny"). Upgrading between releases is no longer trivial; make sure you read the <release notes> and ask me about <etch->lenny>. |
| 07:09 | <GlenneMannen> | themill ok but I cant find any newer kernel in aptitude |
| 07:09 | <GlenneMannen> | so I should replace stable with lenny instead ? |
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| 07:10 | <themill> | GlenneMannen: Yes. Installing the "linux-image-686" package should bring in the 2.6.26 kernel from lenny for you |
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| 07:11 | <GlenneMannen> | Ok, I'll try that ty |
| 07:11 | <CissWit> | haha Braqueur |
| 07:12 | <GlenneMannen> | themill, btw after chaning the stable to lenny should I run a safe-upgrade ? |
| 07:12 | <CissWit> | oops sorry =) irssi fail. |
| 07:13 | <themill> | GlenneMannen: that shouldn't be necessary, although you will need to "aptitude update". You might like to check that an "aptitude full-upgrade" doesn't want to do thing as you may have other un-updated packages. |
| 07:13 | <themill> | GlenneMannen: Also check the output of "aptitude search ~o" to see if you've got other cruft left lying around from previous releases. |
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| 07:14 | <GlenneMannen> | aptitude update showed me like [+12671] updates |
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| 07:16 | <Vanished> | Mickhael Jackson is dead |
| 07:16 | <themill> | Vanished: wrong channel |
| 07:16 | <Vanished> | lol |
| 07:17 | <Ikarus> | Where should I place system filters in Debian style of exim4 configuration |
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| 07:20 | <themill> | GlenneMannen: that's probably just because you changed "stable" to "lenny" so it sees them as new packages. I presume aptitude {safe,full}-upgrade doesn't actually want to do anything, however |
| 07:20 | <GlenneMannen> | themill thats correct, ty |
| 07:20 | <jeremiah2> | Ikarus: exim4 has some very good documentation - you may want to check that out. |
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| 07:20 | <themill> | GlenneMannen: excellent. |
| 07:20 | <Ikarus> | jeremiah2: yeah, I know, but I am left with this one question :) |
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| 07:21 | <jeremiah2> | Ikarus: And you also may want to specific which type of 'filters' you are speaking of; i.e. seive? |
| 07:21 | <GlenneMannen> | ty for all of you guys help |
| 07:21 | <Ikarus> | jeremiah2: system filters, you know, the native way to do changing of things like subject in exim |
| 07:22 | <jeremiah2> | Ikarus: I don't know that off the top of my head, exim spec file should help you though. |
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| 07:39 | <glock> | !hello dpgk |
| 07:40 | <dr|z3d> | !congratulate glock |
| 07:40 | <dpkg> | Yay glock, you did it! |
| 07:41 | <glock> | thnx, dr|z3d |
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| 07:41 | <glock> | :P |
| 07:42 | <glock> | !thank dr|z3d |
| 07:42 | <dpkg> | pas de quoi, glock |
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| 08:06 | <GlenneMannen> | themill are you still there ? |
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| 08:12 | <GlenneMannen> | anyone know how to enable the wlan0 I got it running but it aint connectable |
| 08:12 | <ranix> | man iwconfig |
| 08:12 | <ranix> | and ifconfig |
| 08:12 | <ranix> | if you are using a graphical network management tool |
| 08:13 | <ranix> | just don't |
| 08:13 | <GlenneMannen> | I'm not using graphical, only console |
| 08:13 | <gsimmons> | GlenneMannen: Did you install the firmware-ralink package from non-free? |
| 08:13 | <GlenneMannen> | gsimmons yeah |
| 08:13 | < | `Ile`> ... |
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| 08:15 | <vvas> | hm, audio skips, fun times |
| 08:15 | <vvas> | one would have thought we'd gone past such problems in 2009... |
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| 08:16 | <chealer> | GlenneMannen: what do you mean by running but not connectable? |
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| 08:16 | <GlenneMannen> | it's not showing up in other devices whens earching |
| 08:17 | <GlenneMannen> | when searching* |
| 08:19 | <vvas> | ah ok, it's not 2.6.30, it's audacious and its stupid problems with the intel sound chips |
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| 08:20 | <gsimmons> | GlenneMannen: Are you using the rt73usb or rt73 driver? |
| 08:20 | <GlenneMannen> | rt73usb one |
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| 08:25 | <chealer> | GlenneMannen: searching what/how? |
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| 08:26 | <GlenneMannen> | chealer the network ? I got a network on debian and want to access the wifi with example my laptop or my mobilephone |
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| 08:28 | <chealer> | GlenneMannen: so you're trying to setup an access point? |
| 08:28 | <GlenneMannen> | yes |
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| 08:29 | < | `Ile`> awww sweet |
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| 09:06 | <chealer> | GlenneMannen: what does iwconfig tell about the interface? |
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| 09:23 | <joseph> | themill; i am facing problems with tasksel.....dont know why its behaving that way |
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| 09:26 | < | `Ile`> omg |
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| 09:34 | <bremner> | Is there a nice way to clean up dead ssh multiplexing sockets when the process attached to them dies? |
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| 09:34 | < | `Ile`> halt |
| 09:36 | <adb> | `Ile`: stop it |
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| 09:42 | <locklace> | bremner: you mean the stuff it throws in /tmp? |
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| 09:47 | <kapil> | bremner: if you start a new ssh it will replace the older unused socket |
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| 09:48 | <bremner> | locklace: I mean ~/.ssh/master-host-user:22 |
| 09:48 | <bremner> | kapil: for me, it says ControlSocket blahblah already exists, disabling multiplexing |
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| 09:50 | <igsen> | question,question?? |
| 09:51 | <dr|z3d> | !ask |
| 09:51 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 09:52 | <igsen> | How can I show "main menu" in my debian(xfce) like in my xubuntu distro? |
| 09:54 | <igsen> | main menu where I can remove some menu under Application. |
| 09:54 | <dr|z3d> | igsen: Just add the correct panel applet. |
| 09:54 | <igsen> | dr|z3d, and what is that? |
| 09:55 | <dr|z3d> | I think it's pretty obvious, if only you look. |
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| 09:57 | <ert34> | I have a linux supported scanner. When I open xsane, I got a a error message telling that it failed opening "v4l:/dev/video0"... I think that I misconfigured it using v4l, how do I solve it? |
| 09:58 | < | `Ile`> what tells you dmesg ? |
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| 09:59 | <ert34> | `Ile`, I have a couple lines telling canoscan |
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| 10:02 | <ert34> | [ 211.676272][ 211.676272] usb 1-2: Product: CanoScan |
| 10:02 | <ert34> | [ 211.676280][ 211.676280] usb 1-2: Manufacturer: Canon |
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| 10:03 | <ert34> | `Ile`, |
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| 10:04 | <keschrich> | Has anybody else noticed AIM not working in Pidgin today? |
| 10:05 | <bzed> | ert34: run lsusb and give me the device ID please |
| 10:05 | <ert34> | sure |
| 10:05 | <ert34> | ID 04a9:2220 Canon, Inc. CanoScan LIDE 25 |
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| 10:07 | <ubuntu> | change nickname |
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| 10:07 | <bzed> | ert34: have a look into http://www.sane-project.org/man/sane-plustek.5.html - as far as I understand it you have to configure your device in /etc/sane.d/plustek.conf |
| 10:07 | <Guest888> | Join: /join #zenega |
| 10:07 | <igsen> | keischrich, My pidgin doesn't work with yahoo too! |
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| 10:07 | <locklace> | !lart Guest888 |
| 10:07 | * | dpkg resizes Guest888's terminal to 40x24 |
| 10:07 | <jeremiah2> | Guest888: Too late, we know you are running Ubuntu. |
| 10:08 | <bzed> | ert34: also it should be detected automaticall in theory |
| 10:08 | <bzed> | ert34: if udev creates /dev/usbscanner |
| 10:08 | <ml|> | judd pciid 04a9:2220 |
| 10:08 | <judd> | ml|: [04a9:2220] is 'Unknown device' from 'Unknown vendor' with no known kernel module in lenny or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=04a9:2220 |
| 10:08 | <bzed> | ert34: if you don't have /dev/usbscanner, I guess you either need to configure sane or udev :) |
| 10:08 | <joseph> | I want to install a package without entering option yes/no which they ask during installing a package |
| 10:09 | <bzed> | joseph: man apt :) |
| 10:09 | <bzed> | joseph: err, man apt-get |
| 10:09 | <bzed> | or man aptitude |
| 10:09 | <bzed> | search for yes |
| 10:09 | <bzed> | and force |
| 10:09 | <joseph> | bzed; i used the --force-yes option but still it itsnt giving me what i wanted |
| 10:09 | <gsimmons> | igsen: See Debian bug #533729. |
| 10:10 | <igsen> | gsimmons, noted. |
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| 10:11 | <bzed> | joseph: is dpkg asking you questions? |
| 10:12 | <ert34> | bzed, I need install sane-plustek, and edit this config file? |
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| 10:13 | <igsen> | gsimmons, how sad... |
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| 10:13 | <bzed> | ert34: no, you need to install sane. look if you have /dev/usbscanner - if not, edit /etc/sane.d/plustek.conf |
| 10:13 | <bzed> | joseph: apt-get --yes -o |
| 10:13 | <bzed> | DPkg::options::="--force-confnew" |
| 10:13 | <dpkg> | bzed: no idea |
| 10:13 | <jhonny> | themill; are you there |
| 10:14 | <bzed> | joseph: apt-get --yes -o DPkg::options::="--force-confnew" |
| 10:14 | <bzed> | joseph: that can be dangerous, though |
| 10:14 | <bzed> | joseph: if dpkg asks you to investigate in a configuration question, best is to solve it manually |
| 10:15 | <ert34> | # device /dev/usbscanner |
| 10:15 | <ert34> | device auto |
| 10:15 | <bzed> | ert34: look if you have the device in your system, not in the config file... |
| 10:15 | <ert34> | how? |
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| 10:18 | <bzed> | ls /dev/usbscanner |
| 10:19 | <bzed> | or use your favourite file manager to look into /dev |
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| 10:19 | <ert34> | http://pastebin.com/m5d0ac73b |
| 10:20 | <bzed> | this does not answer my question. |
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| 10:20 | <ert34> | I don't have /dev/usbscanner |
| 10:20 | <ert34> | I got not found with the ls command |
| 10:20 | <ert34> | for /dev/usbscanner |
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| 10:20 | <bzed> | than edit /etc/sane.d/plustek.conf as described in the file and in the documentation I lnked you to |
| 10:20 | <bzed> | ert34: ^ |
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| 10:21 | <bzed> | ert34: and add the device ID of your scanner instead of device auto |
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| 10:22 | <ert34> | device 2220? |
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| 10:24 | <ert34> | the vendor ID is needed too? |
| 10:25 | <ert34> | I want xsane working with the scanner... I don't want only the line command tool |
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| 10:26 | <ert34> | I had saved the plustek.conf |
| 10:26 | <ert34> | what now? |
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| 10:28 | <Leo> | hi all |
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| 10:29 | <Leo> | is possible to compile a kernel on a machine A (with modules) and install it on another machine via ssh? |
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| 10:30 | <ert34> | I think that I misconfigured xsane one time. How do I install my scanner: http://pastebin.com/m5d0ac73b ? |
| 10:30 | <locklace> | Leo: sure |
| 10:31 | <locklace> | Leo: if it wasn't, there'd be no such thing as a debian kernel package, for one |
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| 10:32 | <Leo> | locklace: it's enough do make bzImage then make modules and modules_install |
| 10:32 | <Leo> | then transfer bzImage file and lib/2.6.XX dir on machine B? |
| 10:32 | <Leo> | (and configure grub etc etc..) ? |
| 10:32 | <locklace> | Leo: a better idea if you're running debian is to make a kernel package using the make-kpkg tool |
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| 10:33 | <locklace> | Leo: that will produce a .deb which you can just copy to your other machines and install with a simple dpkg -i |
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| 10:33 | <ert34> | I got a error message when I start xsane: Fail when opening device: 'v4l:/dev/video0' Invalid argument |
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| 10:34 | <Leo> | locklace yes i'm using debian on both machine |
| 10:34 | <Leo> | but i'm doing a lot of tries, maybe i can build .deb file for the final "release" |
| 10:35 | <locklace> | Leo: "aptitude install kernel-package" and then read the README files in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package |
| 10:35 | <Leo> | i'm building from vanilla kernel |
| 10:35 | <locklace> | Leo: right, you can just build normally as many times as you want, then when you're happy with it you can run the make-kpkg at the end to generate the .deb |
| 10:35 | <ert34> | bzed, http://pastebin.com/m5d0ac73b |
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| 10:36 | <locklace> | Leo: right. the "kernel-package" package provides the make-kpkg tool which allows you to generate a .deb from a vanilla kernel build |
| 10:36 | <Leo> | sry I read "kernel-image" |
| 10:36 | <Leo> | :) |
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| 10:37 | <ert34> | On windows XP I just click and install my scanner. Why it is so complicated on debian? |
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| 10:38 | <petemc> | ert34: what is it that you click? |
| 10:38 | <ert34> | petemc, the installer cd |
| 10:38 | < | `Ile`> coz linux rulz |
| 10:38 | <dr|z3d> | ert34: It isn't, unless your scanner isn't supported fully under Linux. If it is, it should be seen automagically. |
| 10:38 | <petemc> | ert34: so the question you should be asking is "why doesnt my scanner manufacturer write drivers for linux" |
| 10:38 | <ert34> | Yes, it is supported. |
| 10:39 | <ert34> | When I bought it I checked. |
| 10:39 | <ert34> | But it have drivers. |
| 10:39 | <dr|z3d> | Ok, and. So, did it come with a driver CD for Linux? |
| 10:39 | <ert34> | has |
| 10:39 | <ert34> | No. |
| 10:40 | <Leo> | ert34: brand/model of the scanner? |
| 10:40 | <dr|z3d> | Ok. They may well be embedded into the kernel. |
| 10:40 | <adb> | judd: pciid 04a9:2220 |
| 10:40 | <judd> | adb: [04a9:2220] is 'Unknown device' from 'Unknown vendor' with no known kernel module in lenny or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=04a9:2220 |
| 10:40 | <ert34> | Canon Scan LiDE 25 |
| 10:40 | <ml|> | adb: read up :P |
| 10:40 | <ert34> | http://www.sane-project.org/man/sane-plustek.5.html CanonScan LiDE 25 appers here |
| 10:41 | <themill> | is it a PCI scanner? interesting sounding beast.... |
| 10:41 | <ert34> | no usb |
| 10:42 | <ert34> | On my another machine with Ubuntu it works. |
| 10:42 | <ert34> | It's a debian problem, maybe. |
| 10:42 | <ranix> | ert34: what kernel are you using in ubuntu |
| 10:42 | <ranix> | ert34: and what kernel are you using in debian |
| 10:42 | <bzed> | udev doesn't recognize it |
| 10:42 | <bzed> | not a kernel problem |
| 10:42 | <bzed> | there is no need for a kernel module fo rthe scanner |
| 10:42 | <bzed> | libusb does the job just fine |
| 10:43 | <ranix> | ah |
| 10:43 | <bzed> | but udev doesn;t recognize the device as scanner, so you either need to configure udevor sane |
| 10:43 | <ert34> | how? |
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| 10:44 | <ert34> | :-( |
| 10:45 | <Leo> | ert34: I miss something: which is exaclyt the error? (i clered channel log) |
| 10:45 | <ert34> | http://pastebin.com/m183d1afe looks like I had edited the file with "device 2220" |
| 10:46 | <ert34> | When I open xsane, I got a a error message telling that it failed opening "v4l:/dev/video0" |
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| 10:49 | <ert34> | bzed, how do I edit that file? |
| 10:51 | <ert34> | Damn day when I choose debian for my eee instead windows xp... :-( |
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| 10:51 | < | `Ile`> nah debian is a cool os u will see |
| 10:52 | <ert34> | I need it working later for a little job. |
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| 10:53 | <luca_> | hi everyone |
| 10:53 | <Leo> | hi luca_ |
| 10:54 | <luca_> | I have a little problem - I appear not to have any console session active, I can't reckon why :( Is there any way to restore the normal number of 6? |
| 10:55 | <dr|z3d> | luca: ctrl+alt+f6 |
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| 10:56 | <ranix> | ert34: what was the model of the scanner again? |
| 10:56 | <luca_> | dr|z3d: that would function if I had any console sessions active :) |
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| 10:56 | <luca_> | as it is, I just switch to a black screen with a blinking underscore |
| 10:56 | <ranix> | CanoScan LiDE 25? |
| 10:56 | <Leo> | how can I check my root ext2 fs with fsck? |
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| 10:57 | <ert34> | ranix, http://pastebin.com/m5d0ac73b |
| 10:57 | <ert34> | CanoScan LiDE 25 |
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| 10:57 | <gsimmons> | dpkg: tell Leo -about forcefsck |
| 10:57 | <llutz> | Leo: "touch /forcefsck" and reboot |
| 10:57 | <Leo> | llutz: so easy? :D |
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| 10:58 | <dr|z3d> | Make sure you run that command as root, Leo. |
| 10:58 | <Leo> | yes i'm root |
| 10:58 | <luca_> | going out for a sec |
| 10:59 | <Leo> | a bolt caused electricity in my house down for a while, while I as apt-getting a package, now apt-get isn't executable |
| 10:59 | <ranix> | ert34: I see that Canon has no linux drivers for this scanner on their website |
| 10:59 | <ranix> | ert34: I see that other debian users have had problems with not having drivers, and see no fixes |
| 10:59 | <bja> | Leo: download apt-get directly from site and dpkg to reinstall it in situ |
| 10:59 | <ranix> | ert34: I see that Ubuntu users have also not been able to use it |
| 11:00 | <ert34> | ranix, I have this working on Ubuntu |
| 11:00 | <Leo> | bja: i can't either overwrite existing apt-get |
| 11:00 | <ert34> | ranix, it really works |
| 11:00 | <ert34> | I tested |
| 11:00 | <ranix> | ert34: did you try running "sane-find-scanner"? |
| 11:00 | <ert34> | And it works very fine, plug and play |
| 11:00 | <ert34> | no |
| 11:00 | <ranix> | give it a shot |
| 11:01 | <ranix> | you should see "found USB scanner (vendor=0Ć04a9 [Canon], product=0Ć2220 [CanoScan], chip=LM9832/3)" |
| 11:01 | <ert34> | Yes |
| 11:01 | <ert34> | I see it |
| 11:02 | <ranix> | ok now give it a shot |
| 11:03 | <ert34> | the same |
| 11:03 | <ranix> | ert34: run the command "scanimage -L" |
| 11:03 | <locklace> | luca_: does openvt work for you |
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| 11:06 | <ert34> | found USB scanner (vendor=0x04a9 [Canon], product=0x2220 [CanoScan], chip=LM9832/3) at libusb:002:003 |
| 11:06 | <ranix> | ert34: can you pastebin your lsusb? |
| 11:06 | <ert34> | device `v4l:/dev/video0' is a Noname CNF7129 virtual device |
| 11:06 | <ert34> | sure |
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| 11:08 | <ert34> | http://pastebin.com/m77db13db |
| 11:09 | <ranix> | ert34: run the command: scanimage -T -d plustek:libusb:002:003 |
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| 11:10 | <ert34> | scanimage: open of device plustek:libusb:002:003 failed: Error during device I/O |
| 11:10 | <ranix> | is this an eeepc? |
| 11:10 | <ert34> | yes |
| 11:10 | <ranix> | bingo |
| 11:10 | <ert34> | with a kernel backport |
| 11:10 | <ranix> | the ubuntu that this works on is not an eee, is it? |
| 11:10 | <ert34> | no, it isn't |
| 11:11 | <ranix> | you have run into a known bug with USB suspend functions |
| 11:11 | <ranix> | there's a workaround |
| 11:11 | <ranix> | you need to install the package "scanbuttond" using apt-get or aptitude |
| 11:11 | <ert34> | oh, please \, tell me how |
| 11:11 | <ranix> | (fyi this bug also exists in Ubuntu) |
| 11:12 | <ranix> | then run "scanbuttond -r 1000000" |
| 11:12 | <ranix> | then re-run the scanimage -T -d line you got an I/o error on and see if it works |
| 11:12 | <ert34> | ok |
| 11:12 | <ert34> | trying it now |
| 11:12 | <ranix> | k, let me know how you make out |
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| 11:15 | <ert34> | if plustek:libusb:002:003 is the thing that I need to run with scanimage -T -d it doesn't works |
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| 11:18 | <ert34> | ranix |
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| 11:20 | <Leo> | bja: where i can download apt? |
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| 11:21 | <adb> | Leo: use wget on pdo |
| 11:21 | <dr|z3d> | Leo: apt should already be installed. |
| 11:21 | <dr|z3d> | It's how you install stuff in Linux. |
| 11:21 | <dr|z3d> | Well, Debian based Linux. |
| 11:21 | <rutski> | I'm really confused as to what I have to do to set up a wacom tablet under the new way debian's xorg.conf works |
| 11:22 | <rutski> | I was under the impression that things were autodetected now, and that xorg.conf was to be left basically empty |
| 11:22 | <Leo> | adb: pdo? |
| 11:22 | <adb> | dpkg: tell Leo about pdo |
| 11:22 | <rutski> | but it's not autodetecting the wacom tablet correctly, `xsetwacom list dev` doesn't show a wacom device |
| 11:22 | <petemc> | rutski: it will still use a config file, if one exists |
| 11:23 | <rutski> | though the tablet does work as a basic mouse, though not in the way I need it to work as a 1-to-1 screen mapped tablet |
| 11:23 | <adb> | Leo: dpkg -l apt | grep ii |
| 11:23 | <adb> | does what ? |
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| 11:24 | <ert34> | ranix, there is something more that I can try to get this working? |
| 11:24 | <ranix> | your scanner isn't simply off or something is it |
| 11:25 | <ert34> | NAAAAAAAAAA |
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| 11:25 | <ert34> | ranix, locked xD |
| 11:26 | <Leo> | adb: I have that line but I have some problems because electricity went down and apt-get is no more an executable file |
| 11:26 | <Leo> | adb: the error is "stale nfs file handle" |
| 11:26 | <ert34> | but still not woring |
| 11:27 | <dr|z3d> | Leo: try aptitude install apt-get |
| 11:27 | <dr|z3d> | !aptitude |
| 11:27 | <dpkg> | extra, extra, read all about it, aptitude is a terminal-based package manager. Ask me about <why aptitude> <why not aptitude> <aptitude-fu>. http://wiki.debian.org/Aptitude |
| 11:27 | <locklace> | !why not aptitude |
| 11:27 | <dpkg> | Aptitude has many bugs, such as #299009, which other APT frontends do not have. Also, aptitude currently does not have equivalents for "apt-get source". |
| 11:27 | <Leo> | dr|z3d: i got that problem WHILE I was apt-getting aptitude, so aptitude gives segmentation fault :\ |
| 11:27 | <asaleem> | Does anyone know what is the maximum URI limit of apache in debian 4.0? |
| 11:28 | <dr|z3d> | Leo: What about dselect.. is it installed? |
| 11:28 | <ranix> | lol is it working now ert34 ? |
| 11:28 | <ranix> | aqh fck |
| 11:28 | <ert34> | ranix, I remember that I used v4l to configure xsane |
| 11:28 | <ert34> | no |
| 11:29 | <ranix> | well, mess with it some more. If you can't get it working, ask the channel again and tell them about the output of scanimage -L, and that your failure occurs when you do that scanimage -T -d |
| 11:29 | <ert34> | and before this misconfiguration xsane worked. |
| 11:29 | <ranix> | unfortunately I have never used a scanner in my life |
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| 11:29 | <ranix> | so I can't do more troubleshooting |
| 11:29 | <ert34> | ah ok, thanks for all |
| 11:29 | <ranix> | np |
| 11:30 | <Leo> | dr|z3d: Yes, i have dselect |
| 11:30 | <ert34> | Even purging and reinstalling xsane it keeps some configurations |
| 11:31 | <Leo> | dr|z3d: mmh.. i think my fs was fucked up :\ |
| 11:31 | <adb> | ert34: try purging v4l-conf tooy |
| 11:31 | <ert34> | I remember that out-of-the-box it open |
| 11:32 | <adb> | ert34: try purging v4l-conf too* |
| 11:32 | <ert34> | then I opened and misconfigured it |
| 11:32 | <ert34> | ok |
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| 11:33 | <dr|z3d> | Leo: dselect install aptitude apt-get |
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| 11:34 | <ert34> | i have not v4l-conf |
| 11:34 | <ert34> | i don have it |
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| 11:35 | <Leo> | dr|z3d: dselect can't find some scripts :) I think i will deboostrap again (it's and embedded device) |
| 11:36 | <dr|z3d> | Joyous! |
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| 11:37 | <student> | 132K |
| 11:37 | <student> | åäŗŗåŖ½ļ¼ļ¼ |
| 11:37 | <locklace> | !cn |
| 11:37 | <dpkg> | extra, extra, read all about it, cn is China, or for help in chinese please join irc.oftc.net #debian-zh, Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see http://tinyurl.com/8yrj9 | Qt/KDE ĆØĀæƦĀøĀ”ƦƄĀ¼Ć„Ā§ĆÆĀ¼ĆØĀÆĀ¦Ć¦ĆØĀÆĀ·Ć©ĆØĀÆĀ» |
| 11:38 | -!- | arw is now known as Satan |
| 11:38 | <student> | ļ¼ļ¼ |
| 11:38 | -!- | drakeman is now known as arw |
| 11:38 | <student> | ä½ ęÆå±±å° |
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| 11:39 | -!- | drakeman is now known as Guest895 |
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| 11:39 | -!- | Guest895 is now known as arw |
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| 11:44 | <bja> | Leo: Sorry was away but download it directly from the debian site :) |
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| 11:44 | <Leo> | bja: don't worry...I managed that I should restore last backup of whole FS |
| 11:45 | <bja> | good luck |
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| 11:47 | <Leo> | thanks |
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| 12:03 | <ert34> | ranix, you don't believe. |
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| 12:04 | <ert34> | I just purged, restarted the pc, installed xsane again... started xsane, and it asked me for use v4l on my canoscan... it worked |
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| 12:04 | <ert34> | even purging xsane it keep some configs, computer restart is needed |
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| 12:06 | <ert34> | where I reported that it works? |
| 12:06 | <ert34> | *report |
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| 12:07 | <ml|> | !congratulate ert34 |
| 12:07 | <dpkg> | Good show ert34, you did it! |
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| 12:09 | <ert34> | this laser can blind |
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| 12:20 | <mhymn> | how can i load the .Xmodmap file when x starts? i couldn't find anything relevant in /etc/X11/Xsession or /etc/X11 directory |
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| 12:21 | <ml|> | mhymn: how do start X? |
| 12:21 | <locklace> | mhymn: call it from your x startup file (~/.xsession or ~/.xinitrc) |
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| 12:24 | <mhymn> | hmm, thanks, will give it a try |
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| 12:32 | <jthomas_sb_> | I cannot get audio output from Flash nor Audacity; Amarok plays fine. I think something is holding open the sound but I have closed Amarok and its still not working; lsof /dev/dsp returns nothing. Suggestions, without logging out and in again? |
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| 12:35 | <jthomas_sb_> | KDE4 Ssytem Settings > Notifications makes noise fine. |
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| 12:44 | <jthomas_sb_> | hmm closed Firefox and Audacity's Audio Out now works, musta been something there. |
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| 12:44 | <ranix> | congrats ert34 |
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| 12:47 | <mhymn> | locklace: no luck! am i doing something wrong? here's my ~/.xession --> http://pastebin.com/f40360ee2 |
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| 12:47 | <locklace> | yes |
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| 12:49 | <kapil> | mhymn: in a shell script "exec program" passes control to "program". so the second line is never executed! |
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| 12:49 | <ml|> | no need for exec |
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| 12:51 | <vvas> | mhymn: you should put the xmodmap line above the xfce4-session line and remove the exec from the xmodmap line |
| 12:51 | <kapil> | mhymn: see the amendment. |
| 12:52 | <kapil> | also ignore/delete the last line. (i forgot!) |
| 12:52 | <ml|> | xmodmap ~/.Xmodap should work just fine and what vvas said |
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| 12:56 | <mhymn> | OK, thanks guys |
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| 13:08 | <ert34> | hmm... this xsane thing is pretty good |
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| 13:09 | <ert34> | There is any good ocr project? |
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| 13:10 | <ert34> | To use with xsane? |
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| 13:16 | <bruno> | pumeta |
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| 13:21 | <arian> | bian-es |
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| 13:26 | <fjapareja> | hola |
| 13:27 | <ranix> | hola |
| 13:27 | <sney> | !es |
| 13:27 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 13:27 | <fjpareja> | que pasa manta |
| 13:27 | <sney> | pasa nada |
| 13:28 | <sney> | estoy descansado |
| 13:28 | <ranix> | el gato es en el sacapuntas |
| 13:28 | <ranix> | eeeeey |
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| 13:28 | <ranix> | fjpareja mi amigo, el smoko un blunt |
| 13:28 | <dr|z3d> | Mis calcetines son sucios. |
| 13:29 | <sney> | there needs to be a !bad-es |
| 13:29 | <dr|z3d> | !spanglish |
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| 13:29 | <sney> | definitely |
| 13:29 | <ranix> | mexicanos tu cutto mi lawnya |
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| 13:30 | <dr|z3d> | I think ranix is in a class all his own, there. |
| 13:30 | * | dr|z3d chuckles. |
| 13:31 | * | ranix flashes his Latin King stacks |
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| 13:31 | * | ranix gets jumped by 200 angry men |
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| 13:31 | <bja> | !nuke ranix |
| 13:31 | * | dpkg fires an 80 gigaton thermonuclear weapon at ranix |
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| 13:33 | <bja> | dr|z3d: verb to be in spanish has two separate meanings ser and estar |
| 13:33 | <fenix> | skype |
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| 13:33 | <dr|z3d> | bja: I know. I was being bad on purpose, just to make everyone else feel comfortable. *wink* |
| 13:34 | <sney> | bja: yes, his calcetines are intrinsically filthy |
| 13:34 | <sney> | (socks? I think that's socks) |
| 13:34 | <dr|z3d> | Indeed. |
| 13:34 | <dr|z3d> | eso si que es. |
| 13:34 | <ranix> | sox |
| 13:34 | <sney> | sux |
| 13:34 | <taniap> | hola a todo |
| 13:34 | <bja> | well sox and sucks are also very similar :) |
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| 13:34 | <elenacs> | holaaaaaaaa |
| 13:35 | <ranix> | holaaaaaaaa mi amigos |
| 13:35 | <taniap> | elenaaaaa |
| 13:35 | <taniap> | hola ranix |
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| 13:35 | <taniap> | de dond eres |
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| 13:35 | <adb> | taniap (~taniap@77.211.1.226) == elenacs (~elenacs@77.211.1.226) |
| 13:35 | <ranix> | sido mejor |
| 13:36 | <ranix> | tu? |
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| 13:36 | <taniap> | hola a todo |
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| 13:36 | <ranix> | ventana |
| 13:36 | <locklace> | what the hell is going on in here |
| 13:36 | <ml|> | !en |
| 13:36 | <dpkg> | The language of #debian is English. We will do our best to help you regardless of your level of English but you might be more comfortable asking for help in your own language. Ask me about your language code for more information, for example /msg dpkg br ; /msg dpkg pt ; /msg dpkg es ; /msg dpkg fr ; /msg dpkg de |
| 13:36 | <locklace> | dpkg: slap everyone |
| 13:36 | * | dpkg strikes a resounding *THWAP* across everyone's face |
| 13:37 | <taniap> | ranixxxx |
| 13:37 | <sney> | AY MI CARO |
| 13:37 | <ranix> | xxxxxxxx |
| 13:37 | <ranix> | carumba |
| 13:37 | <bja> | xD |
| 13:37 | <taniap> | jaja |
| 13:37 | <ranix> | huahuahua |
| 13:37 | <sney> | as soon as someone asks an on-topic question in english, I'm sure it'll all go back to normal |
| 13:37 | <taniap> | alguien me puede explicar esto k no lo entiendo |
| 13:37 | <elenacs> | sneyyyy |
| 13:38 | <taniap> | espaƱaaaaa |
| 13:38 | <locklace> | fine. how the fuck do i get radeonfb to work with an hd mobility 3470 |
| 13:38 | <elenacs> | sevilla |
| 13:38 | <dr|z3d> | !tell taniap about es |
| 13:38 | <taniap> | pedrera |
| 13:38 | <ranix> | locklace: prayer |
| 13:39 | <locklace> | didn't work. |
| 13:39 | <sney> | para ayuda en espaƱol, por favor /j #debian-es. aqui hay solamente cabrones en espaƱol. |
| 13:39 | <ranix> | No hablo siquiera una palabra de espaƱol! |
| 13:39 | <ranix> | ĀæCĆ³mo puedo utilizar # debian-es? |
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| 13:39 | <taniap> | sisiis |
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| 13:39 | <sney> | lo siento locklace, I guess I was wrong |
| 13:39 | <sney> | better ban everyone |
| 13:40 | <taniap> | como se utiliza estooo |
| 13:40 | <adb> | !ops taniap | elenacs spam |
| 13:40 | <dpkg> | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: adb complains about: taniap | elenacs spam |
| 13:40 | <sney> | also I don't know how to make your thing work |
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| 13:42 | * | bja sees how the channel suddenly becomes on-topic |
| 13:42 | <ranix> | ran out of material from biggotry and high-school spanish |
| 13:42 | <ranix> | and wanted to end on a bang with special characters |
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| 13:47 | <stuckey> | How do I sort files/folders in a directory by the most recently created/modified? |
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| 13:47 | <locklace> | stuckey: ls -lt |
| 13:48 | <themill> | stuckey: man ls |
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| 13:51 | <MyWifeIs19> | when I issue "genisoimage -o img.iso /somedirectory" command the whole system seems to freeze for about 5 seconds. Why? |
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| 13:52 | <locklace> | MyWifeIs19: how are you determining that "the whole system" freezes. are you in x? if so can you move the mouse? what happens if you try from a text vt? |
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| 13:55 | <MyWifeIs19> | locklace, everything stops (except for mouse), the clock does not update, conky does not update, "top" prog stops etc. I can move the mouse but it cannot "pick up" a window etc |
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| 13:56 | <locklace> | MyWifeIs19: try it from a console vt. see if you can change to other vts, log in, run top, etc. while it's going on |
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| 13:56 | <bremner> | MyWifeIs19: or run it from a text vt to start with |
| 13:56 | <bremner> | err, I guess locklace said that |
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| 13:57 | <MyWifeIs19> | locklace, bremner : basically you want me to eliminate X as possible culprit, right? |
| 13:57 | <bja> | Why would someone have 3 nicks on one channel at the same time? |
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| 13:58 | <sney> | looks like more than 3 |
| 13:59 | <ml|> | for logging purposes? |
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| 13:59 | <craigevil> | they are evil bots spying for Homeland security to nail those linux subversives |
| 14:00 | <sney> | they were the guys spamming spanish a few minutes ago. I guess they were "trolls" |
| 14:00 | <sney> | or maybe it's a lan |
| 14:01 | <ml|> | yeah trolls like to do that |
| 14:01 | <bja> | and its time to leave |
| 14:01 | <bja> | sney that sound more like it |
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| 14:03 | <bja> | sney: 18:00 in Spain time to leave the office |
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| 14:03 | <sney> | despues de SIESTA |
| 14:03 | <sney> | I installed my system and set the locale to es, and now it takes a nap every afternoon! |
| 14:03 | <bja> | naa Antes de Tapas |
| 14:04 | <bja> | goes to the bar every other day? |
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| 14:05 | <simNIX> | hehe |
| 14:05 | <ml|> | hah |
| 14:05 | <simNIX> | I would like to have nap buld in |
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| 14:06 | <marcot> | Hello, what's libc6-pic? |
| 14:07 | <phorce1> | marcot: apt-cache show libc6-pic |
| 14:07 | <marcot> | What's the difference with the usual libc6? I read the description of the package, but I could not understand the difference. |
| 14:07 | <marcot> | I tried searching about PIC, but could not find anything. |
| 14:07 | <bja> | simNIX: I believe in Ecuador they close every store from 12:00 hrs to 14:00 hrs because the heat is unbearable |
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| 14:07 | <marcot> | If someone can provide a link about the subject. |
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| 14:08 | <simNIX> | aha |
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| 14:09 | <simNIX> | marcot, PIC is a lot of used word so I imagine hard to google - I would try fresmeat.net and sourceforge and search there for maybe more suited restults - also ther's www.google.com/linux |
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| 14:10 | <phorce1> | It's a subset of the full libc6 to be used when space is at a premium (like for boot floppies). WAAAYYYY too many links in google, you'll have to pick through them yourself |
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| 14:11 | <marcot> | phorce1: I could find a lot of links about other things, or about the state of glibc-pic packages in a some distributions.. |
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| 14:12 | <phorce1> | might want to re-ask your question on the debian-user email list. Wider audience to respond |
| 14:13 | <bja> | marcot: I've come to terms with google puting linux at the end of the searching phrase |
| 14:13 | <simNIX> | bja if on google.com/linux al searches should be Linux specific |
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| 14:17 | <tp43> | hey guys, I have a problem. I am not too sure, cause I never run windows long enough, but I'd swear the the bottom area under my touchpad of my thinkpad get really hot in debian, and not so hot in Windows |
| 14:18 | <tp43> | any experienced anything similar |
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| 14:20 | <drakeman> | hey Slurb how are u, today i try my usb in my windows xp machine in my work, and for now everything works fine. |
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| 14:21 | <Slurb> | thats great to hear. im glad |
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| 14:21 | <ml|> | !congratulate drakeman |
| 14:21 | <dpkg> | Huzzah drakeman, you did it! |
| 14:22 | <drakeman> | ml|, hehehe... thanks, and thanks Slurb for your patience yesterday ! |
| 14:22 | <compgrokker> | tp43: depending on what i'm doing, i've noticed the touchpad gets hot regardless of OS |
| 14:22 | <Slurb> | thats what im here for |
| 14:23 | <ml|> | dpkg: tell drakeman about u |
| 14:23 | <ml|> | :) |
| 14:23 | <tp43> | compgrokker, hmm, your probably right. But I have never noticed it get so hot with windows, but I never really use windows to find out. |
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| 14:23 | <bja> | ml|: don't waste your time, drakeman will never learn :) |
| 14:23 | <drakeman> | Slurb, ml| and for my other question to run commands without using sudo, i create a file .bash_aliases and i put the commands there... |
| 14:23 | <ml|> | bja: oh hehe |
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| 14:24 | <compgrokker> | tp43: ah i'd use windows just as intensively as i use linux, and actually i've found that out of windows and all the linux distros i've tried, debian runs coolest |
| 14:24 | <gaara> | can someone tell me why my pidgin is being blocked by squid in its default configuration? |
| 14:24 | <ml|> | drakeman: don't use sudo then |
| 14:24 | <drakeman> | bja, hey dont say that, i dont have much time using linux, and i feel that i already learn many things, in fact many times i helped people here. and in another debian channels. |
| 14:24 | <dr|z3d> | drakeman: bash aliases will still require sudo or equivalent, unless you're running them as root. |
| 14:24 | <ml|> | gaara: it's a but i beleive check bts |
| 14:24 | <bja> | drakeman: ml| got the message that i was joking :) |
| 14:25 | <ml|> | s/but/bug/ |
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| 14:25 | <drakeman> | dr|z3d, i know, but for example before to run ifconfig with my user i had two choices 1. sudo ifconfig, 2. /sbin/ifconfig, now just using the alias for ifconfig, i just have to typed ifconfig to see the information i need.. |
| 14:25 | <tp43> | compgrokker, what kind of laptop you got? I have thinkpad t43 |
| 14:25 | <drakeman> | dr|z3d, i know that i need sudo for administrative things. |
| 14:26 | <compgrokker> | tp43: hp dv9000 |
| 14:26 | <gaara> | ml: but? |
| 14:26 | <dr|z3d> | drakeman: Okeydoke. As long as you're clear on that, all's good :) |
| 14:26 | <gaara> | ml: bts? |
| 14:26 | <ml|> | drakeman: you don't have to use sudo |
| 14:26 | <tp43> | compgrokker, I am gonna buy hp next time |
| 14:26 | <ml|> | dpkg: tell gaara anout bts |
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| 14:26 | <ml|> | dpkg: tell gaara about bts |
| 14:26 | <compgrokker> | tp43: get a toshiba, they're better |
| 14:27 | <drakeman> | ml|, no, but the way to do it without sudo before was /sbin/ifconfig, now i just have to type ifconfig and i get the info. |
| 14:27 | <drakeman> | dr|z3d, yes im clear on that. thanks. |
| 14:27 | <compgrokker> | tp43: i wanted a toshiba, but they were sold out |
| 14:27 | <tp43> | compgrokker, actually yeah, that was my first choice |
| 14:27 | <dr|z3d> | drakeman: There's also "sudo su" which can be useful. |
| 14:27 | <drakeman> | dr|z3d, yes, thanks!!!! |
| 14:27 | <Hydroxide> | or just sudo -s or sudo -i |
| 14:27 | <gaara> | ml: well isnt the default bts bugzilla? |
| 14:28 | <ml|> | not for debian |
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| 14:28 | <gaara> | oh okie |
| 14:28 | <Hydroxide> | debian uses debbugs, which is its own |
| 14:28 | <bremner> | !slap bugzilla |
| 14:28 | * | dpkg strikes a resounding *THWAP* across bugzilla's face |
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| 14:28 | <Hydroxide> | it has the nice feature that you can use email to interact with it and the extremely nice feature that you don't need to create an account |
| 14:29 | <ml|> | yup bts is great |
| 14:29 | <ml|> | drakeman: what are you trying to do i don't get it |
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| 14:31 | <drakeman> | ml|, no, just run programs like ifconfig without put the /sbin/ifconfig (the complete path), i use alias just to write ifconfig for example and get the info. |
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| 14:31 | <drakeman> | ml|, programs that doesnt need sudo to run. |
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| 14:37 | <ml|> | drakeman: you can also add /sbin/ to your PATH |
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| 14:38 | <drakeman> | ml|, ehhh, right.... but if i write $PATH: and the new path, when i close the bash window, when i open it again, it have to do it again. |
| 14:38 | <drakeman> | ml|, dont know how to doit permanently |
| 14:38 | <ml|> | add it to your bashrc |
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| 14:42 | <drakeman> | ml|, going to check it..... |
| 14:42 | <drakeman> | ml|, thanks. |
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| 14:44 | <Black_Phantom> | Hello guys, my sources.list is mixed up and i get errors when i use apt-get update, what to do :S ? |
| 14:45 | <adb> | un mixed them |
| 14:46 | <adb> | or reinstall ... |
| 14:46 | <ml|> | drakeman: np, i think you need to add it to .bash_profile instead don't remember |
| 14:46 | <ml|> | but try bashrc first i guess |
| 14:46 | <kapil> | Black_Phantom: check /usr/share/doc/apt/examples for an example sources.list file |
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| 14:46 | <locklace> | has Black_Phantom hosed his system? |
| 14:46 | <locklace> | !8ball |
| 14:46 | <dpkg> | without a doubt |
| 14:47 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 392] by debhelper |
| 14:47 | <locklace> | that's it then. hope you have an installer cd handy. |
| 14:47 | <adama_> | hehe |
| 14:47 | <drakeman> | ml|, yes, cause in bashrc dont see any PATH line... let me check the ./_profiel |
| 14:47 | <dr|z3d> | Ignore locklace, Black_Phantom, he's having a funny five minutes. |
| 14:47 | <ml|> | drakeman: .bash_profile |
| 14:47 | <drakeman> | ml|, ooo, i dont have a .bash_profile file |
| 14:47 | <Black_Phantom> | lol |
| 14:47 | <Stathol> | If you've been editing sources.lst by hand, you might look for a backup copy (ex. sources.lst~) |
| 14:48 | <drakeman> | just bashrc, bash_logout |
| 14:48 | <drakeman> | ml|, and bash_aliases maded for me. |
| 14:48 | <ml|> | drakeman: make it |
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| 14:48 | <drakeman> | ml|, the bash_profile needs any special syntax?. |
| 14:48 | <ml|> | always is a make backups of system files |
| 14:49 | <locklace> | dr|z3d: do you want to engage in a gentleman's wager on whether his system is hosed? |
| 14:49 | <ml|> | before editing them |
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| 14:49 | <ml|> | drakeman: not that i know of you would need ... PATH=$PATH:/sbin |
| 14:50 | <drakeman> | ml|, let me see.. going to try. |
| 14:50 | <ml|> | then source .bash_profile and echo $PATH |
| 14:51 | <bja> | Black_Phantom: your system is indeed hosed, be patient and you will get it un-hosed |
| 14:51 | <ml|> | locklace: and you know it is? |
| 14:51 | <melkart> | how can i obtain a list of all backported packages available in the lenny-backports repository? (from backports.org) |
| 14:52 | <dr|z3d> | locklace: No. :P |
| 14:52 | <locklace> | all right then. |
| 14:52 | <simark> | Hi, I just had this problem for the second time with gnome: when windows are maximized, they are not affected by the toolbar (for example : http://whatimg.com/images/jofz6zcujt5soswy07oa.png). The title bar is hidden under the top toolbar and the status bar of firefox is hidden under the bottom toolbar. Anyone had this problem before? |
| 14:53 | <dr|z3d> | simark: Issue with openbox, I think. Known. |
| 14:53 | <bja> | Black_Phantom: set your sources.list straight and try to make a release update |
| 14:53 | <drakeman> | ml|, i have a profile file in /etc/, can i modify that one too., but this is a profile for wide system.. i guess.. |
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| 14:54 | <simark> | dr|z3d: was it caused by a recent update? |
| 14:54 | <ml|> | drakeman: right that is system wide best just to make one for you |
| 14:55 | <simark> | dr|z3d: actually, openbox isn't installed on my system |
| 14:56 | <dr|z3d> | simark: Hmmkay. Might also affect other window managers.. yours, it sounds like. I only have circumstantial reports to go on, nothing substantive. |
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| 14:56 | <craigevil> | simark: its a metacity bug, if your on testing upgrade it to the version in sid |
| 14:56 | <simark> | Ok, thanks |
| 14:56 | <dr|z3d> | Metacity. There we go. |
| 14:57 | <dr|z3d> | I probably meant metacity, not openbox. My bad. |
| 14:57 | <simark> | Oh, that makes more sense :P |
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| 14:59 | <woocyfear> | hello |
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| 14:59 | <woocyfear> | i have a question |
| 15:00 | <woocyfear> | can somebody help me? |
| 15:00 | <bja> | !ask |
| 15:00 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 15:00 | <woocyfear> | i would like to install debian lenny i386 |
| 15:00 | <woocyfear> | on my laptop |
| 15:01 | <drakeman> | ml|, i think its working now, i just creat .bash_profile and put PATH=$PATH:/sbin and i rename the aliases fiels, login again and is working :D |
| 15:01 | <woocyfear> | 1100MHz 256MB |
| 15:01 | <woocyfear> | 120GB HDD |
| 15:01 | <woocyfear> | But I don't have DVD ROM |
| 15:01 | <ml|> | drakeman: good |
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| 15:02 | <woocyfear> | I have another machine |
| 15:02 | <woocyfear> | it has dvd rom |
| 15:02 | <drakeman> | ml|, no i learn something new :d step by step, and thanks again, you almos always save me, and when you dont, is because you are not in the channel, hehehe |
| 15:02 | <ml|> | drakeman: np, we all learn here |
| 15:03 | <drakeman> | ml|, thanks. |
| 15:03 | <woocyfear> | can i start the installation on my computer which has dvd rom, and continue on my laptop? |
| 15:03 | <kapil> | woocyfear: if your question is "can i install debian from a dvd rom which is not on the machine i am installing from?" then the likely answer is "no!" |
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| 15:04 | <kapil> | (at least not without some hardware/software jugglery!) |
| 15:04 | <woocyfear> | then how can i? |
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| 15:04 | <drakeman> | ml|, how many time you have using debian? or linux... |
| 15:05 | <woocyfear> | on my server more times\ |
| 15:05 | <woocyfear> | that is debian 4 |
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| 15:06 | <ml|> | drakeman: on and off really, being a while tho don't remember exactly |
| 15:07 | <ml|> | maybe in 1997 or so |
| 15:07 | <woocyfear> | somebody help me please |
| 15:07 | <bja> | !ask |
| 15:07 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 15:08 | <drakeman> | ml|, because i always be a windows guys, even in my work i give support to MS machines! but now usins debian, wow, so many differentes things to learn, and really interesting.. just tell u that when i use windows before i only use it for messenger, now when i go home using debian im always reading about how to do things and when i made something with or without help is awesome :D |
| 15:08 | <drakeman> | bja, you are mean |
| 15:08 | <drakeman> | hahah |
| 15:08 | <kapil> | woocyfear: can your laptop boot from usb? |
| 15:08 | <parashio> | woocyfear: install from usb or windows loader |
| 15:08 | <woocyfear> | unfortunaly no |
| 15:08 | <woocyfear> | the only way is the other machine\ |
| 15:09 | <parashio> | no windows? |
| 15:09 | <woocyfear> | empty Hdd |
| 15:09 | * | bja goes for his black eye-pathc |
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| 15:09 | <kapil> | woocyfear: you have no way to boot the machine? |
| 15:10 | <woocyfear> | from HDD |
| 15:10 | <kapil> | but i thought the hdd is empty! |
| 15:10 | <woocyfear> | yes |
| 15:10 | <ml|> | drakeman: good we all started somewhere and will never learn everything ;) |
| 15:11 | <woocyfear> | but i have another pc |
| 15:11 | <woocyfear> | it has dvd rom |
| 15:11 | <drakeman> | ml|, thats right! |
| 15:11 | <woocyfear> | i put the laptop's hdd into it |
| 15:11 | <woocyfear> | and i installed debian |
| 15:11 | <drakeman> | ml|, my goal is to be a linux server admin. |
| 15:11 | <kapil> | so far so good. |
| 15:12 | <woocyfear> | but not starting |
| 15:12 | <woocyfear> | only grub |
| 15:12 | <locklace> | !space bar |
| 15:12 | <dpkg> | The space bar is the correct way to separate connected sentences on IRC. Please use it. The Return/Enter key is not a substitute. |
| 15:13 | <kapil> | perhaps the grub menu.lst is a bit muddled. do you get a grub prompt? |
| 15:13 | <parashio> | you may have to fix the grub boot line |
| 15:13 | <cahoot> | the space between space and bar is intentional? |
| 15:13 | <woocyfear> | yes |
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| 15:13 | <woocyfear> | how? |
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| 15:13 | <kapil> | what was the partitioning that you chose during installation? |
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| 15:14 | <woocyfear> | i have 20 GB ext3 and 1 GB swap |
| 15:14 | <kapil> | in particular, what was the root device? /dev/hda1? |
| 15:14 | <ml|> | might need to change /dev/sda to /dev/hda |
| 15:14 | <drakeman> | ml|, you know what i notice, that now, with the bash_profile file, i lost the color prompt, now everything is white text and black background. |
| 15:14 | <woocyfear> | hd0, but i'm not sure |
| 15:15 | <woocyfear> | is it possible? |
| 15:15 | <kapil> | try "root (hd0,0)" on the grub prompt |
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| 15:15 | <woocyfear> | grub promt? |
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| 15:16 | <woocyfear> | there is two choice |
| 15:16 | <kapil> | which are? |
| 15:16 | <ml|> | drakeman: hmm, dunno did you logout back in? |
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| 15:16 | <drakeman> | ml|, yes, maybe i have to add the lines for color in the same bash_profile. |
| 15:16 | <woocyfear> | two debian, one is single user mode, other is normal |
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| 15:17 | <woocyfear> | or i press c button |
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| 15:17 | <kapil> | ok. so you are better off than i thought! give "e" to edit the command line |
| 15:18 | <kapil> | as ml| said you probably have to change the root device in the boot command line. |
| 15:18 | <kapil> | ^s/boot/kernel/ |
| 15:18 | <woocyfear> | yes |
| 15:18 | <woocyfear> | ?? |
| 15:19 | <woocyfear> | press b? |
| 15:19 | <ml|> | drakeman: you should not have to |
| 15:19 | <drakeman> | ml|, mm but dont know, let me reverse the changes and try |
| 15:20 | <kapil> | woocyfear: what happens if you press "b"? |
| 15:20 | <woocyfear> | there is 3 choice |
| 15:20 | <woocyfear> | root, kernel, initrd |
| 15:20 | <drakeman> | ml|, when i remove the bash_profile, i get the colors again! |
| 15:20 | <kapil> | go to the kernel line and edit it with "e". |
| 15:21 | <drakeman> | ml|, when i put again the bash_profile everything is black and white. |
| 15:21 | <woocyfear> | yes |
| 15:21 | <kapil> | it will have a root= entry which you need to give the correct root device. |
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| 15:22 | <woocyfear> | now the end of line is /dev/hda 1 ro |
| 15:22 | <ml|> | drakeman: try addind export in front of command in .bash_profile |
| 15:22 | <kapil> | it should probably be "/dev/hda1 ro" or if that does not work try "/dev/sda1 ro" |
| 15:23 | <drakeman> | ml|, export where? before the line i added? something like export PATH=$PATH:/sbin ??? |
| 15:23 | <ml|> | drakeman: right |
| 15:23 | <drakeman> | ml|, ok, let me see. |
| 15:23 | <woocyfear> | at the root on the previous screen was hd0,0 |
| 15:23 | <kapil> | not to worrk. that was for "grub", this is for the linux kernel. |
| 15:23 | <kapil> | s/worrk/worry/ |
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| 15:24 | <drakeman> | ml|, nothing |
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| 15:24 | <ml|> | same thing? |
| 15:25 | <woocyfear> | sda1 not good |
| 15:25 | <woocyfear> | it freezing again |
| 15:25 | <kapil> | woocyfear: what about /dev/hda1? |
| 15:25 | <woocyfear> | at witing for root file system |
| 15:25 | <drakeman> | ml|, yes. |
| 15:25 | <woocyfear> | the same |
| 15:26 | <woocyfear> | but mounting root file system is ok |
| 15:27 | <woocyfear> | then the next is waiting fo root file system is wainting forever |
| 15:27 | <kapil> | woocyfear: it mounted the root file system? |
| 15:27 | <ml|> | drakeman: ok undo the changes and just try the export command |
| 15:27 | <ml|> | and see if colors go away that wat too |
| 15:27 | <ml|> | s/wat/way |
| 15:28 | <woocyfear> | Marking TSC unstable |
| 15:28 | <woocyfear> | i got this answer |
| 15:28 | <woocyfear> | not for export |
| 15:28 | <woocyfear> | for waiting |
| 15:29 | <adb> | !tell woocyfear about enter |
| 15:29 | <kapil> | it is possible that your "/etc/fstab" has the wrong entries. you may have to boot /dev/hda1 with the additional parameter "init=/bin/sh" and fix that. |
| 15:30 | <woocyfear> | how can i do that? |
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| 15:31 | <ml|> | kapil: sounds right since he installed it on another machine |
| 15:32 | <kapil> | woocyfear: add " init=/bin/sh" at the end of the kernel command line. |
| 15:32 | <b39inn3r> | hola alguien me puede decir como entrar en el canal debian -es please |
| 15:32 | <ml|> | !es |
| 15:32 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 15:33 | <b39inn3r> | ok dpkg gracias muchas gracias |
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| 15:33 | <woocyfear> | i added and i got the same answer |
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| 15:33 | <woocyfear> | i pressed 'b' |
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| 15:34 | <drakeman> | ml|, dont understand, you say that i have to delete the line i wrote to the path, and just write export. ? |
| 15:34 | <drakeman> | ml|, to see if i have the colors only with export in the bash_profile. |
| 15:35 | <woocyfear> | no dock device found |
| 15:35 | <ml|> | drakeman: like you did before undo changes and a terminal just type export PATH=$PATH:/sbin and see if you lose color again |
| 15:35 | <drakeman> | ml, ok. |
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| 15:37 | <woocyfear> | dev/hda1 doesn't exists. Dropping to a shell |
| 15:37 | <woocyfear> | and now i see (initramfs) |
| 15:37 | <drakeman> | ml|, i dont loose the colors because if y restart the shell, then i loose the path too, because remember that im connected trough ssh. |
| 15:37 | <kapil> | woocyfear: at least got a shell! |
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| 15:38 | <ml|> | drakeman: don't understand |
| 15:38 | <woocyfear> | and now? |
| 15:39 | <kapil> | check what disks are listed in /dev/disk/by-path/ |
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| 15:39 | <kapil> | that should tell you what disk you need to boot (if any can be found!) |
| 15:40 | <ml|> | and to edit /etc/fstab |
| 15:40 | <kapil> | and probably also /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 15:41 | <drakeman> | ml|, ok, i deleted the bash_profile file, ok, then i write in the shel export PATH=$PATH:/sbin, obviously i added the /sbin to my path, but to see the changes, i have to reconnect again to my machine, but when i do that, i lost the path again, because it only works to modify the path temporaly. |
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| 15:41 | <ml|> | ah this through ssh didn't know that |
| 15:42 | <drakeman> | ml|, yes, to simulate the new session i finish the current ssh connection and then open another, ... |
| 15:42 | <woocyfear> | i got : /dev - permission denied; /dev/disk - not found |
| 15:42 | <ComradeHaz> | Hi all, if I'm using a system that is pinned to testing but want to be able to occasioanlly grab stuff from experimental and unstable, do I need to put all the sources ie hhtp://blah/debian stable as well as testing etc etc? |
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| 15:43 | <ml|> | drakeman: got it dunno why you lose color support |
| 15:44 | <woocyfear> | what now? |
| 15:44 | <woocyfear> | etc/fstab is empty |
| 15:44 | <kapil> | woocyfear: looks like your disk is not recognised by the kernel so I don't know what can be done |
| 15:45 | <drakeman> | ml|, , dont know, thats why i asked you before if i have to add any line for colors in .bash_profile, just like the lines for color in .bashrc |
| 15:45 | <woocyfear> | i try to install again, on other machine? but how then? |
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| 15:45 | <ml|> | drakeman: can't hurt to try i suppose |
| 15:45 | <kapil> | you should first make sure that you can boot that disk on the other machine. |
| 15:46 | <woocyfear> | what if i can't? |
| 15:46 | <ml|> | woocyfear: if you try to reinstall make sure to disconnect all other hard drives |
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| 15:47 | <kapil> | that's a good suggestion from ml| |
| 15:48 | <woocyfear> | is it possible, that the problem is my laptop is 1100MHz Duron and the other Pc is 4200+ dual core? |
| 15:48 | <ml|> | ComradeHaz: you are intesting? |
| 15:48 | <ComradeHaz> | well, kind of |
| 15:48 | <kapil> | woocyfear: not if you are using the i686 installation. |
| 15:48 | <ComradeHaz> | I've now pinned to testing, yes |
| 15:48 | <ComradeHaz> | (using default-release |
| 15:49 | <woocyfear> | i installed i386 distrib |
| 15:49 | <ml|> | and you want to grab stuff from sid? |
| 15:49 | <adb> | woocyfear: are some raid installation involved ? |
| 15:49 | <kapil> | woocyfear: that should be ok. |
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| 15:50 | <ml|> | woocyfear: that should be ok, but disconnect any other hdd in installing machine to avoid problems |
| 15:50 | <woocyfear> | i didn't installed packages, it's problem? |
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| 15:50 | <ml|> | no base install is good enouf |
| 15:51 | <adb> | packages .. as grub ? |
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| 15:51 | <woocyfear> | grub installed, and base system |
| 15:51 | <Zviper> | how do i upgrade ext4 from ext3 with a 2.6.27 kernel? is it possible? |
| 15:51 | <kapil> | adb: he has grub working |
| 15:51 | <Zviper> | upgrade to** |
| 15:52 | <locklace> | Zviper: don't |
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| 15:52 | <ml|> | Zviper: i think you need .30 kernel, but ext4 is not completly ready |
| 15:52 | <woocyfear> | any idea? |
| 15:52 | <locklace> | you can use it with earlier kernels, but it more or less amounts to playing russian roulette with your drive |
| 15:53 | * | kapil sees ted ts'o sharpening daggers to poke ml| with :-) |
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| 15:53 | <ml|> | ouch why? |
| 15:53 | <locklace> | being on the bleeding edge of development is great for many things. filesystems are not among those things. |
| 15:53 | <Zviper> | well ext4 provides faster sequential writing which i need for what im doing :\ |
| 15:54 | <ml|> | yeah if you care about your data |
| 15:54 | <kapil> | 01:22 < ml|> ... , but ext4 is not completly ready |
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| 15:54 | <kapil> | ml|: ^ that's why! |
| 15:54 | <ml|> | hah |
| 15:54 | <dr|z3d> | Zviper: You won't get a full conversion; you need to install from scratch to get the full benefits of ext4. |
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| 15:54 | <locklace> | Zviper: ok. you can get fucking great sequential write performance if you don't might total unrecoverable data corruption |
| 15:54 | <woocyfear> | what i did wrong?\ |
| 15:54 | <adb> | woocyfear: are some raid installation involved ? |
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| 15:55 | <woocyfear> | no |
| 15:55 | <adb> | woocyfear: what kind of machine it is ? |
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| 15:55 | <Zviper> | hmm, what would you recommend for faster sequential writing performance? |
| 15:55 | <woocyfear> | laptop is 100MHz Duron 256MB ram and 120GB HDD |
| 15:55 | <dr|z3d> | Zviper: An SSD. |
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| 15:56 | <drakeman> | ml|, or the other option is keep with bash_aliases insted bash_profile |
| 15:56 | <woocyfear> | other is 4200+ 5GB ram |
| 15:56 | <adb> | 5GB ram on 100MHz Duron ? |
| 15:56 | <ml|> | drakeman: yes, didn't that it would mess up color support |
| 15:56 | <drakeman> | ml|, but is better the bash_profile way because i add the sbin with all commands inside |
| 15:56 | <kapil> | adb: woocyfear is installing on a different system and shifting the hard disk to the laptop. it then does not boot. |
| 15:56 | <adb> | oh .. |
| 15:56 | <drakeman> | ml|, because with bash_aliases, i have to enter command by command.one by one. |
| 15:57 | <ml|> | drakeman: yes, but you will still need root powers for some |
| 15:57 | <adb> | !fixmbr |
| 15:57 | <dpkg> | To reinstall <GRUB> simply boot to your Debian install disk, live CD or whatever else you have, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev), then chroot into it (chroot /target) then run "mount /proc ; update-grub && grub-install /dev/hda". Also ask me about <rescue mode> and <dual boot guide>. |
| 15:57 | <drakeman> | ml|, yes i now that, but for ifconfig just display info, for mkfs i dont need sudo or root. |
| 15:57 | <adb> | woocyfear: ^^ |
| 15:57 | <Zviper> | dr|z3d: im working with a server, i don't have physical access to it |
| 15:58 | <ml|> | drakeman: right how many commands are we talking about? |
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| 15:58 | <jemark> | hi all, i have a problem with the fonts in swiftfox 3.5 (firefox 3.5) in debian testing |
| 15:58 | <jemark> | they are not anti aliased |
| 15:58 | <drakeman> | ml|, not many, just afew, the other is modify the path for the system wide. |
| 15:59 | <drakeman> | ml in .bashrc. |
| 15:59 | <woocyfear> | now?? |
| 15:59 | <dr|z3d> | jemark: Turned on sub-pixel anti-aliasing in your window manager? |
| 15:59 | <locklace> | Zviper: you can use ext4 if you really want to, but upgrade to .30 if you want any hope of data integrity, and accept the risks of participating in active filesystem development |
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| 16:00 | <jemark> | dr|z3d, yes, I did. I have very good fonts in iceweasel |
| 16:01 | <Zviper> | well if there is an easier way to improve sequential writing, im open to it. im running multiple clients which constantly write and read from the disk in multiple location |
| 16:01 | <ml|> | drakeman: if it's just a few aliases is a better way to go, just prefix them with 'a' like aifconfig or ifconfiga |
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| 16:01 | <locklace> | Zviper: large files or small? |
| 16:01 | <drakeman> | ml|, , ok, but now i have the doubt whty the colors dont work, jejej, for a while im going to keep the bash_aliases but im gonna find why dont have colors when i use .bash_profile |
| 16:02 | <Zviper> | locklace: mainly large, but small files do appear every so often |
| 16:02 | <ml|> | drakeman: one other thing to try is to add export command to /etc/profile |
| 16:02 | <Zviper> | locklace: actually nevermind, they are mainly small, but many of them |
| 16:02 | <drakeman> | just the export alone? in the last line of the file? |
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| 16:02 | <drakeman> | ml, just the export alone? in the last line of the file? |
| 16:02 | <jemark> | dr|z3d, wanna see a screenshot of my current fonts? |
| 16:02 | <ml|> | drakeman: no like with bash_profile |
| 16:03 | <Zviper> | locklace: they usually consist of compressed files |
| 16:03 | <drakeman> | ml|, ok. can try that. |
| 16:03 | <ml|> | drakeman: i'll try to see why that happens too would like to know |
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| 16:04 | <locklace> | Zviper: then what makes you think you're even doing any significant amount of sequential writing |
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| 16:05 | <Zviper> | perhaps my definition of sequential writing is wrong |
| 16:05 | <Gibbers69> | hi. if i need help with something on debian, is this the place to ask? |
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| 16:06 | <drakeman> | ml|, doiing it right now... |
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| 16:07 | <locklace> | Zviper: my suggestion, see if you can condense your use-case into a simple test, then test it on a couple of different fs types. jfs or xfs might work out for you |
| 16:07 | <drakeman> | ml|, hey the .bashrc files had some lines for enable color support to ls.... command, mmm maybe if i paste that lines... |
| 16:07 | <dr|z3d> | !ask |
| 16:07 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 16:08 | <Gibbers69> | !ask |
| 16:08 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 16:09 | <ml|> | drakeman: another thing you can do is export when connecting to remote machine |
| 16:09 | <Zviper> | locklace: hmm im looking at gparted and under features it says that jfs and xfs are only detectable, not writable or readable or anything else.. |
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| 16:09 | <drakeman> | ml|, dont understand, how i do that. |
| 16:10 | <ml|> | dpkg: tell Gibbers69 about selftell |
| 16:10 | <ml|> | drakeman: what do you use now to connect? |
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| 16:10 | <drakeman> | putty inside windows. |
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| 16:11 | <knoppix_> | marce |
| 16:11 | <knoppix_> | hola |
| 16:11 | <drakeman> | ml|, putty inside windows... |
| 16:11 | <drakeman> | !es |
| 16:11 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 16:11 | <ml|> | oh, do you just conect or use scp sometimes? |
| 16:11 | <locklace> | Zviper: if you have the jfs kernel module (modprobe -l | grep jfs) then "aptitude install jfsutils" and you can use jfs. same with xfs and "xfsprogs" |
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| 16:12 | <drakeman> | ml|, to transfer files i use filezilla inside windows two, using sftp |
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| 16:13 | <Zviper> | FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.27.10-grsec-xxxx-grs-ipv4-32/modules.dep: No such file or directory -- when doing modprobe -l |grep jfs |
| 16:13 | <Gibbers69> | ok here goes... i'm a newbie to debian. i have debian 5. i'm trying to setup my wireless network card. i'm trying to install b43-fwcutter. only thing is the pc i'm setting it up on doesn't have an internet connection - and this computer is connected through a usb dongle. is there anyway i can install b43-fwcutter offline? |
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| 16:14 | <locklace> | Zviper: what the hell kernel is that and where did it come from |
| 16:15 | <locklace> | Gibbers69: just download the .deb file, copy it over and install it with dpkg -i |
| 16:16 | <Gibbers69> | locklace: that didn't work. it loked like it was trying to access the internet |
| 16:16 | <drakeman> | ml|, fixed. |
| 16:16 | <Zviper> | locklace: im not sure, it's a ready made image provided by OVH |
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| 16:16 | <locklace> | Zviper: so what you're saying is, you're not using debian |
| 16:16 | <Zviper> | i am |
| 16:16 | <Zviper> | debian lenny 5.0 |
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| 16:17 | <locklace> | lenny does not have a kernel called "2.6.27.10-grsec-xxxx-grs-ipv4-32", as far as i know |
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| 16:18 | <drakeman> | ml|, mi bash_ profile file with dir colors support is this http://paste.debian.net/40361/ |
| 16:18 | <locklace> | Gibbers69: paste the output of the dpkg -i |
| 16:18 | <drakeman> | ml|, in that way i get the colors! |
| 16:18 | <locklace> | !tell Gibbers69 about paste |
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| 16:18 | <drakeman> | ml|, what do you think? is fine in that way? |
| 16:19 | <Zviper> | it must be OVH's pre-made kernal used for their servers |
| 16:19 | <ml|> | drakeman: that is from bashrc? |
| 16:19 | <Zviper> | when installing an os with OVH they give the options on what OS to install, i chose debian lenny 5.0 |
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| 16:19 | <drakeman> | ml|, yes i take it from there xD |
| 16:20 | <ml|> | drakeman: yes that should be fine, though you had tried that when i asked before |
| 16:20 | <Nazcafan> | hello |
| 16:20 | <drakeman> | ml|, no no, didnt try it before... xD |
| 16:20 | <drakeman> | ml|, thanks! :D |
| 16:20 | <ml|> | drakeman: glad it's working :) |
| 16:21 | <Nazcafan> | Is it possible to have an openjdk plugin for iceweasel? |
| 16:21 | <drakeman> | ml|, me too, :D:D:D |
| 16:21 | <locklace> | Zviper: no idea what ovh is, but whatever it is, it has a different kernel than lenny and who knows what other differences. so you're not using debian |
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| 16:22 | <Zviper> | OVH is a company which sells dedicated servers |
| 16:22 | <locklace> | !tell Nazcafan about install java |
| 16:23 | <drakeman> | !congrate drakeman |
| 16:23 | <craigevil> | Nazcafan: if your using testing or sid there is icedtea6-plugin |
| 16:23 | <ml|> | hah |
| 16:23 | <drakeman> | !congratulations drakeman |
| 16:23 | <drakeman> | plop |
| 16:23 | <drakeman> | i dont know the commands for that both |
| 16:23 | <drakeman> | jajja |
| 16:23 | <drakeman> | bot |
| 16:23 | <Zviper> | !congratulate drakeman |
| 16:23 | <dpkg> | Yay drakeman, you did it! |
| 16:23 | <drakeman> | i just know the .!es |
| 16:23 | <ml|> | dpkg: tell drakeman about dpkggot |
| 16:23 | <ml|> | dpkg: tell drakeman about dpkgbot |
| 16:23 | <drakeman> | Thanks. |
| 16:23 | <Nazcafan> | locklace: I have icedtea-plugin and icedtea-gcjwebplugin installed, but I still can not run any Java applet |
| 16:23 | <drakeman> | eehe |
| 16:24 | <ml|> | dpkg: is slow sometimes |
| 16:24 | <dpkg> | ml|: i don't know |
| 16:24 | <drakeman> | plop! |
| 16:24 | <Nazcafan> | locklace: craigevil plus the Java plugin doesn't show up in the list of iceweasel plug ins |
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| 16:26 | <drakeman> | . |
| 16:26 | <ml|> | plop? |
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| 16:26 | <Gibbers69> | locklace: i've just put the screenshot up on http://picpaste.com/Screenshot-Terminal.png |
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| 16:27 | <drakeman> | ml|, sorry, i use it in spanish language when you try to do something and didnt work, ... |
| 16:27 | <ml|> | oh |
| 16:28 | <drakeman> | ml|, now you now the reason why i didnt explain me well sometimes, because i just know a little of english :D not so much... |
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| 16:28 | <drakeman> | ml|, i have limited words xD |
| 16:28 | <ml|> | drakeman: yes makes sense now, but you do ok most of time ;) |
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| 16:29 | <ml|> | #debian-es does not help? |
| 16:30 | <bja> | ml|: we are trying to get rid of drakeman from #debian-es but he is very persistent |
| 16:30 | <locklace> | Gibbers69: ok. i guess it wants to retrieve some files that couldn't be put in the package itself for licencing reasons. you might have to look at the package postinst script, get the files you need, and modify the script to tell it where to find them. kind of a pain |
| 16:30 | <drakeman> | ml|, hehehe, thanks. yes i always there too, but sometimes i get the answer here first, more people here than there, it just that sometimes is hard to me to explain a problem, i have to thinkg to choose other words to explain something, but i can understand well, i understand everyghint my problem is when i try to explain :D |
| 16:30 | <bja> | :) |
| 16:30 | <drakeman> | bja, :( |
| 16:30 | <ml|> | bja: hah |
| 16:30 | <ml|> | drakeman: he is jk |
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| 16:31 | <Gibbers69> | thanks locklace |
| 16:31 | <drakeman> | ml|, in #debian-es i always get help from arw, bja, and a few others.... |
| 16:31 | <drakeman> | ml what is jk? |
| 16:31 | <ml|> | joking |
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| 16:32 | <bja> | ml|: by now he nows what jk is :) |
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| 16:32 | <ml|> | bja: heh btw the kde livecd didn't burn right, think it's a sign ;) |
| 16:32 | <drakeman> | ml|, thanks :D |
| 16:32 | <ml|> | np |
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| 16:33 | <bja> | ml|: The gods are giving you foreseeing signs :) |
| 16:33 | <ml|> | yeah ;) |
| 16:34 | <drakeman> | ml|, i like kde but is slow in my 2gbram machin with amd athlon 64 3500+ processor, dont know why.. |
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| 16:35 | <ml|> | drakeman: kde user? |
| 16:35 | <ml|> | shouldn't be slow with your specs |
| 16:35 | <Nazcafan> | locklace: drakeman uninstalling and then reinstalling the iced tea plugin package solved the issue |
| 16:35 | <Nazcafan> | that is kind of weird |
| 16:36 | <ml|> | computers are weird like that |
| 16:36 | <drakeman> | ml|, i use gnoem |
| 16:36 | <drakeman> | ml|, sorry, gnome. |
| 16:36 | <bja> | Nazcafan: sometimes there is an order to install things or else they don't work right |
| 16:36 | <ml|> | ok |
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| 16:36 | <drakeman> | Nazcafan, ??????????? |
| 16:36 | <Nazcafan> | bja: I thought that apt was designed to respect the order |
| 16:37 | <Nazcafan> | drakeman: as I told you, I purged the package and reinstalled it and the plugin showed up in the list |
| 16:37 | <bja> | Nazcafan: people are not perfect and make mistakes, thats why program have bugs |
| 16:38 | <drakeman> | Nazcafan, but wht plugin? i dont know what plugin you are saying? to do what_ |
| 16:38 | <drakeman> | ? |
| 16:38 | <Nazcafan> | drakeman: sorry, it is a mystake, I mistook you for craigevil |
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| 16:39 | <Nazcafan> | bja: I agree with you but debian AIMS perfection |
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| 16:39 | <Nazcafan> | bja: you are getting a little bit too philosophical to my poor skills anyway |
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| 16:40 | <drakeman> | Nazcafan, ohh ohh, i was confused, hehe thanks. |
| 16:40 | <bja> | Nazcafan: everyone aims perfection, although its elusive |
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| 16:40 | <bja> | Nazcafan: Never mind, my 5 sec of enlightment |
| 16:40 | <Nazcafan> | !ggl wordrefernce elusive |
| 16:40 | <Nazcafan> | ah, no bot |
| 16:40 | <ml|> | bja: so tue ;P |
| 16:40 | <Nazcafan> | bummer |
| 16:40 | <ml|> | *true |
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| 16:41 | <Nazcafan> | ah |
| 16:41 | <leikh> | I'm using a firewall-script (http://vpsinfo.nixhost.net/firewall.vps) and are trying to block an ip address, but it's not working. Where in the script do I put this rule? |
| 16:41 | <simNIX> | on Debian Lenny removing nagios base with aptitude I get: |
| 16:41 | <Nazcafan> | bja: isn't debian stable the definition for perfection? |
| 16:41 | <simNIX> | /var/lib/dpkg/info/nagios3-common.prerm: line 23: syntax error near unexpected token `fi' |
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| 16:42 | <simNIX> | how best to proceed ? can't add any software bacouse of this .. |
| 16:42 | <locklace> | simNIX: check the bts |
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| 16:42 | <simNIX> | bts ? |
| 16:42 | <locklace> | !bts |
| 16:42 | <dpkg> | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges |
| 16:42 | <simNIX> | k - ty |
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| 16:42 | <locklace> | either your package metadata is corrupted or there's a really stupid bug in the nagios package |
| 16:43 | <simNIX> | is there a way to regenerate metadata ir is that defined somewhere ? |
| 16:43 | <Nazcafan> | the only thing I really grump about debian is the reportbug software that is barely usable |
| 16:43 | <simNIX> | ir=or |
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| 16:44 | <Nazcafan> | I hate writing a bug report only to get a crash when I click on send and not knowing whether the bugreport was sent or not |
| 16:45 | <locklace> | simNIX: you can try debsums, not sure if it checks package metadata too or only data. other option is just to get the .deb file, extract it somewhere, and compare the prerm script with the one on your system using your favourite compare tool |
| 16:45 | <Nazcafan> | the reportbug tool is critical for a community based distro such as debian, therefore, it should be above reproach and rock solid |
| 16:46 | <locklace> | simNIX: however, |
| 16:46 | <locklace> | !dbugs 519341 |
| 16:46 | <dpkg> | DONE:#519341:S[nagios3-common] nagios3-common: missing "then" in nagios3-common.prerm (); Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:18:04 UTC [] |
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| 16:48 | <vimsp> | hi, how can I reconfigure X11config on ubuntu? |
| 16:48 | <noflash> | vimsp, ask in #ubuntu |
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| 16:50 | <simNIX> | locklace, FWIW here I se montion of removal prob but that should be fixed - http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=520941 |
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| 16:52 | <locklace> | simNIX: what version of nagios3-common do you have |
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| 16:53 | <simNIX> | Im just checking - looks one older then the fixed |
| 16:54 | <simNIX> | ill aptitude update |
| 16:54 | <simNIX> | as temp fix I aleady readded common to be able to |
| 16:54 | <simNIX> | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=518884 this is the one I think |
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| 16:55 | <mib_31r5b5sm> | im doing project on the pidgin, in that one im getting the problem when i clubing the backend to the frontend, can u give me suggestion |
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| 16:57 | <adama> | clubing? |
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| 16:57 | <mib_31r5b5sm> | adding |
| 16:58 | <adb> | mib_31r5b5sm: ask /mail pidgin mail list |
| 16:58 | <adama> | we need a lot more information. /msg dpkg ask |
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| 17:00 | <mib_31r5b5sm> | my plugin is search plugin, i have to search the buddies on the basis of string entered in the text entry box when i press the search button |
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| 17:01 | <mib_31r5b5sm> | can you send the link for /mail pidgin mail list |
| 17:01 | <ml|> | or see if there is a irc channel for pidgin |
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| 17:02 | <adama> | mib_31r5b5sm: you know, you can just click in the main window and start typing, and it will search your contact list as you type |
| 17:03 | <simNIX> | hmm this odd; if I aptitude update/safe-upgrade then nagios3-common stays at 3.0.6-3 even with another mirror in sources ? - This whilst acording to http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=518884 I should be since March on 3.0.6-4 - Im on Lenny ... can anyone please see with maybe synaptic orso what version they see as install candidate ? |
| 17:03 | <mib_31r5b5sm> | i am getting the problem when i display my out put in the required text box that is pre defined in my window |
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| 17:04 | <mib_31r5b5sm> | k thnx simnX |
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| 17:05 | <simNIX> | I didnt even help ya :) |
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| 17:05 | <simNIX> | but yw |
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| 17:05 | <mib_31r5b5sm> | but you respond for my question |
| 17:06 | <ml|> | 17:02:17 < adama> mib_31r5b5sm: you know, you can just click in the main window and start typing, and it will search your contact list as you type |
| 17:06 | <simNIX> | I more asked / told a prob I have ... |
| 17:07 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 386] by debhelper |
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| 17:08 | <simNIX> | I think I best open my 1st bug report - I'll 1st try this agian on a fresh Lenny in a vm to see if its reproducable or a fault in my setup |
| 17:08 | <mib_31r5b5sm> | it searching the contacts but im getting the problem when i try to display the search result in my search out put box |
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| 17:09 | <simNIX> | Im willing to help but I have no knowledge there ... |
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| 17:09 | <raul> | hola |
| 17:09 | <simNIX> | ola |
| 17:09 | <raul> | helllo |
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| 17:10 | <mib_31r5b5sm> | its ok simNx, thanx for response , i too cant help u |
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| 17:10 | <simNIX> | mib_31r5b5sm, I do spot a #pidgin on irc.freenode.net |
| 17:11 | <locklace> | judd versions nagios3-common |
| 17:11 | <judd> | locklace: nagios3-common -- sid: 3.0.3-3 etch-backports: 3.0.6-2~bpo40+1 lenny: 3.0.6-3 sid: 3.0.6-3 sid: 3.0.6-4 squeeze: 3.0.6-4 |
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| 17:11 | <mib_31r5b5sm> | k sim thanx |
| 17:11 | <simNIX> | tnx for check judd |
| 17:11 | <locklace> | the bug is not fixed in lenny |
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| 17:12 | <simNIX> | I am correct that acording to this this should be at 3.0.6-4 for Lenny -> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=518884 |
| 17:12 | <simNIX> | not fixed or fixed deb not pushed ? |
| 17:13 | <locklace> | !lart mib_31r5b5sm |
| 17:13 | * | dpkg whips out a sword and chops mib_31r5b5sm in half |
| 17:13 | <Gibbers69> | locklace: hi i got the file i needed from earlier for b43-fwcutter. just wondering, when you said modify the script to tell it where to find the file, what do i use for that? |
| 17:13 | <simNIX> | recomends do try to install nagios if you want to remove it after - thats broken and makes no posiblity to add software till you readd it |
| 17:13 | <locklace> | simNIX: it isn't fixed in lenny. get the -4 version from squeeze/sid if you want and install it with dpkg -i |
| 17:14 | <simNIX> | I in this case wold prefer to uninstall it |
| 17:14 | <locklace> | Gibbers69: a text editor |
| 17:14 | <simNIX> | but thats broke |
| 17:14 | <locklace> | simNIX: then just fix the syntax error yourself in the prerm script and then remove the package |
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| 17:15 | <simNIX> | k - and I think that I best bug report this ? |
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| 17:15 | <locklace> | no, there are already like 8 bug reports for it |
| 17:16 | <simNIX> | k - so Im reading wrongly that there should be a 3.0.6-4 already |
| 17:16 | <simNIX> | in Lenny |
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| 17:16 | <simNIX> | I dont see here specefied what Debian |
| 17:16 | <simNIX> | Ill read it again closer |
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| 17:18 | <Stathol> | This is...weird. I'm screwing around with libvirtd, trying to get it to listen for TCP migrations on an interface that's hooked up to a cross-over cable. |
| 17:18 | <simNIX> | I wonder is it lack of manpower that this is not fixed if its only add a then ? |
| 17:18 | <Black_Phantom> | Hello |
| 17:18 | <Stathol> | But after changing the config file, it still refuses connection from the other server. |
| 17:19 | <Stathol> | So I run "netstat -at | grep <port that I told it to listen on>" |
| 17:19 | <locklace> | simNIX: it *is* fixed |
| 17:19 | <Black_Phantom> | When I use 'apt-get build-dep pidgin' it asks me to add sources in sources.list |
| 17:19 | <Stathol> | And I see that it's not even listening. |
| 17:19 | <Black_Phantom> | what to do ? I can't find any |
| 17:19 | <simNIX> | but prob not in Lenny yet is becouse not backported (just trying to grasp) |
| 17:19 | <simNIX> | ? |
| 17:19 | <Stathol> | So I inserted a line of totally illegal syntax into its configuration file, and when I restart the daemon, it doesn't even blink |
| 17:20 | <Stathol> | In fact, it seems to totally ignore everything in /etc/libvirt/libvirtd.conf |
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| 17:20 | <Stathol> | Even when I manually start it with "/usr/sbin/libvirtd --config <path to config file>" |
| 17:21 | <Stathol> | WTF. |
| 17:21 | <locklace> | simNIX: only security updates go into lenny, except for some special fixes when point releases happen. that's what "stable" means |
| 17:21 | <simNIX> | even if that brakes posibility to add software after a remove ? |
| 17:22 | <simNIX> | this clearafies it a bit |
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| 17:23 | <mib_31r5b5sm> | what is the gtk command for to print the text in the entrybox |
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| 17:25 | <Black_Phantom> | What is the unstable source for debian archive ? I can't find it |
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| 17:26 | <mib_31r5b5sm> | there are three types are there, they are stable(cant change),unstable(nt over),testing(ok but can do diff types of testings0 |
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| 17:27 | <Black_Phantom> | well yeah I want to add the unstable source to sources.list because when I try to use apt-get build-dep pidgin , it asks me to add some sources :/ |
| 17:27 | <simNIX> | (nt over) ? |
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| 17:27 | <Black_Phantom> | anybody ? |
| 17:27 | <mib_31r5b5sm> | sid is the unstable in debian |
| 17:28 | <craigevil> | !ssb |
| 17:28 | <dpkg> | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add ONLY a "deb-src ..." line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. If you are just wanting to change the compilation options, ask me about <package recompile>, or see <uupdate> if sid is too old |
| 17:28 | <adb> | Black_Phantom: ssb |
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| 17:29 | <Black_Phantom> | What does backported means ? |
| 17:29 | <adb> | !backported |
| 17:29 | <adb> | !backport |
| 17:29 | <dpkg> | hmm... backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.org/. Ask me about <backports.org> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 17:29 | <ml|> | dpkg: tell Black_Phantom about bpo |
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| 17:30 | <Black_Phantom> | I see, and what's the link for the official unstable packages ? from debian archive |
| 17:31 | <simNIX> | for in apt/sources ? |
| 17:31 | <Black_Phantom> | yes in /etc/apt/sources.lis |
| 17:31 | <Black_Phantom> | list* |
| 17:31 | <simNIX> | same line as for instance lenny only change word lenny |
| 17:31 | <simNIX> | (if im not mistaken) |
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| 17:32 | <ml|> | dpkg: tell Black_Phantom about sources.list |
| 17:32 | <simNIX> | to testing or unstable |
| 17:32 | <Black_Phantom> | anyways my goal is to upgrade pidgin to the latest version, when i try to use apt-get build-dep pidgin, it asks me to add sources in sources.list |
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| 17:33 | <adama> | do you have lines that start with deb-src instead of deb? |
| 17:34 | <Black_Phantom> | yes I do |
| 17:34 | <ml|> | but see if it's in bpo |
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| 17:34 | <ml|> | first |
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| 17:38 | <Gibbers69> | locklace: i've tried open the package with a text editor (vim) but i can't see a reference to the file - it's mostly all random chars. any other suggestions? |
| 17:39 | <locklace> | Gibbers69: i was avoiding giving you the real answer because it translates to "huge pain the arse". let me know if you still want to proceed |
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| 17:40 | <locklace> | you'll need to be somewhat familiar with unix tools and shell scripting |
| 17:41 | <Gibbers69> | afraid not. i'll just go get a cable tomorrow. or try install the usb dongle. |
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| 17:41 | <locklace> | alternatively, maybe someone else here who actually uses b43-fwcutter has a better idea on how to push the install through without any sort of net access |
| 17:41 | <Black_Phantom> | anyone please ? what is the mirror/link for unstable packages for debian archive ?, and am getting errors could not fetch when i enter apt-get update |
| 17:42 | <locklace> | seems kind of dumb to me that any network driver package depends on network access, but that may be unavoidable here for licence reasons |
| 17:42 | <ComradeHaz> | Hi all, if I'm using a system that is pinned to testing but want to be able to occasioanlly grab stuff from experimental and unstable, do I need to put all the sources ie hhtp://blah/debian stable as well as testing etc etc? |
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| 17:42 | <Gibbers69> | yeah it does seem it. i'll try with the usb dongle. thanks for the help anyways |
| 17:43 | <Gibbers69> | bye for now. i suspect i'll be back here again sometime |
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| 17:44 | <locklace> | ComradeHaz: http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning |
| 17:44 | <Stathol> | Grrr...why is open-iscsi a *build* dependency for libvirt? |
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| 17:50 | <drakeman> | see you later guys, see you ml| |
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| 17:51 | <drakeman> | bja, see you later! |
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| 17:55 | <mhymn_> | Stathol: what do you mean by build dependency? all i know is that aptitude shows there isn't any package that depends on open-iscsi |
| 17:57 | <ComradeHaz> | hmm, locklace, thanks, but I don;t think that quite answers my question.... |
| 17:57 | <Stathol> | mhymn_: I was actually using dpkg-buildpackage on the sid libvirt source package, so it might just be a sid thing. |
| 17:57 | <Stathol> | All I know is that when I ran it, it bitched that I didn't have open-iscsi installed :P |
| 17:58 | <ComradeHaz> | what I'm trying to establish is if I need to define in sources stable, testing and unstable repositories from any given source. |
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| 17:58 | <ml|> | ComradeHaz: what release are you on? |
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| 17:59 | <ComradeHaz> | essentially 'default-release' is now set to testing |
| 18:00 | <ComradeHaz> | but right now it's an up to date unstable system |
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| 18:00 | <ml|> | ComradeHaz: then why do you want to add stable testing to sources.list? |
| 18:01 | <ComradeHaz> | hmm |
| 18:01 | <ComradeHaz> | I suspect this is what I'm asking. |
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| 18:01 | <locklace> | ComradeHaz: it does answer your question. it tells you what you need to do pinning, and one thing is the sources.list entries for all sources you want to potentially pull from |
| 18:01 | <ComradeHaz> | I actually want the system to gradually become a 'testing' machine |
| 18:02 | <ml|> | downgrading will not be easy gl |
| 18:02 | <ComradeHaz> | I said gradually |
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| 18:04 | <locklace> | !slow-motion train wreck |
| 18:04 | <locklace> | :( |
| 18:04 | <ComradeHaz> | hmm? |
| 18:04 | <ComradeHaz> | really? |
| 18:04 | <ml|> | heh |
| 18:04 | <ComradeHaz> | is this a bad idea? |
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| 18:04 | <ml|> | yes |
| 18:05 | <ComradeHaz> | why does it matter? |
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| 18:05 | <locklace> | ComradeHaz: just set your sources to testing. in theory, it will become a testing system over time as the package versions in testing eclipse your currently-installed ones |
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| 18:06 | <ComradeHaz> | doesn't setting 'default-release' achieve teh same thing? |
| 18:06 | <ml|> | go right ahead and let know how it goes it might just work |
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| 18:06 | <ml|> | *us |
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| 18:06 | <locklace> | ComradeHaz: simplest tool for the job, is what i say |
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| 18:06 | <ComradeHaz> | but occasionally it might be neccessary to grab an unstable package or two |
| 18:07 | <ComradeHaz> | given that surely it makes sense to leave unstable in the sources |
| 18:07 | <locklace> | do what you like, then |
| 18:07 | <ComradeHaz> | :S |
| 18:07 | <ComradeHaz> | I thought my plan was sound :( |
| 18:07 | <locklace> | it's sound if you know what you're doing |
| 18:07 | <ComradeHaz> | hehe |
| 18:08 | <locklace> | or don't mind learning what you're doing at the software equivalent of gunpoint |
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| 18:08 | <ComradeHaz> | it's for my girlfriend who's moving away :D |
| 18:08 | <locklace> | punt her into unstable and wash your hands of it |
| 18:08 | <locklace> | just my view |
| 18:09 | <ml|> | much easier to backup data and reinstall if that's what you want |
| 18:09 | <ml|> | locklace: heh |
| 18:09 | <ComradeHaz> | I have an hour until she leaves. |
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| 18:09 | <locklace> | ask her if she loves you enough to spend the rest of her life in dependency hell |
| 18:09 | <ComradeHaz> | ok |
| 18:10 | <ComradeHaz> | :D |
| 18:10 | <ml|> | lol |
| 18:10 | <Stathol> | Yeah, I can't imagine how you would go about downgrading an entire system o_O |
| 18:10 | <ComradeHaz> | right, what are non-us packages? |
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| 18:12 | <themill> | !non-us |
| 18:12 | <dpkg> | extra, extra, read all about it, non-us is where we placed software previously unable to hosted within the USA. Changes in legislation mean that post-<Woody>, there is no non-US, so you don't need it for Sarge, Etch, Lenny, Squeeze or Sid. Ask me about <crypto> and <crypto in main>. Old non-US packages (for slink, potato, woody) are at archive.debian.org. |
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| 18:18 | <goodger> | huh. just logged out and in with GNOME in squeeze and now metacity is not treating gnome-panel properly; does anyone care to comment? |
| 18:19 | <ml|> | goodger: it's a bug check bts |
| 18:19 | <goodger> | ml|: ta |
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| 18:31 | <Chrono> | guys, if i install something with "make && make install" where should i go to remove it? |
| 18:31 | <dondelelcaro> | Chrono: hopefully it has an uninstall command. |
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| 18:31 | <goodger> | make uninstall is traditional... |
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| 18:31 | <dondelelcaro> | Chrono: if not, let this be a lesson to use dh_make or checkinstall or similar. |
| 18:32 | <Chrono> | but where is the uninstall file |
| 18:32 | <dondelelcaro> | Chrono: there isn't one. the uninstall target of the makefile does it |
| 18:32 | <goodger> | Chrono: you run "make uninstall" from the same directory from which you ran "make install" |
| 18:33 | <Chrono> | ok, if i delete it, ill have to make it again? |
| 18:33 | <goodger> | just make install |
| 18:33 | <ml|> | Chrono: if you can't uninstall it that way try whereis package-name and rm it |
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| 18:34 | <Chrono> | ok |
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| 18:34 | <goodger> | but that may well be messy |
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| 18:35 | <ml|> | yes, but better than leaving it |
| 18:36 | <ml|> | Chrono: next time if you do this install to /usr/local/bin/ |
| 18:36 | <Chrono> | the program is gnu octave. there is a executable on /usr/bin |
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| 18:37 | <goodger> | oh, and does anyone know why scrollkeeper is showing as missing from squeeze and hence "local/obsolete"? |
| 18:38 | <goodger> | ...the most recent upgrade to yelp is also demanding that I remove half of GNOME... |
| 18:39 | <locklace> | unacceptable! |
| 18:39 | <locklace> | remove *all* of it |
| 18:39 | <ml|> | hah |
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| 18:40 | <goodger> | not particularly helpful |
| 18:40 | <Chrono> | locklace do you use kde? |
| 18:42 | <locklace> | hell no |
| 18:42 | <Chrono> | goodger, if you need the things will be uninstalled copy the packages names and then let the uninstall happen |
| 18:42 | <themill> | judd versions scrollkeeper |
| 18:42 | <judd> | themill: scrollkeeper -- etch: 0.3.14-13 lenny: 0.3.14-16 |
| 18:42 | <themill> | goodger: ^^ that would be why |
| 18:43 | <goodger> | themill: yeah, I noticed. trouble is, it is a dependency of about fifty packages on my system ._. |
| 18:43 | <Chrono> | after install it again. Gnome may become much heavy .. some un-useful things |
| 18:43 | <goodger> | Chrono: then reinstalling them will conflict with yelp and require that yelp be removed |
| 18:44 | <themill> | Chrono: is there a reason why you're compiling octave? |
| 18:44 | <Chrono> | when it happen to me i done it, reinstalled all and its all working |
| 18:44 | <Chrono> | experience |
| 18:45 | <Chrono> | and i think the last version will be compatible with qtoctave |
| 18:45 | <themill> | judd versions qtoctave |
| 18:45 | <judd> | themill: qtoctave -- lenny: 0.7.4+dfsg-3 sid: 0.8.1+dfsg-3 squeeze: 0.8.1+dfsg-3 |
| 18:46 | <themill> | Since qtoctave is already in debian, I'd assume that the versions of octave already in debian are compatible with it |
| 18:46 | <Chrono> | ok, but QToctave isnot compatible with Octave 3.2 |
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| 18:46 | <Chrono> | well there are no variable list |
| 18:46 | <goodger> | jedd versions octave |
| 18:46 | <Chrono> | and some other bugs |
| 18:46 | <goodger> | judd versions octave |
| 18:46 | <judd> | goodger: octave -- etch: 1:2.1.73-13 |
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| 18:47 | <adb> | qtoctave - A Qt front-end to Octave |
| 18:47 | <goodger> | inconvenient |
| 18:47 | <goodger> | was it renamed? |
| 18:47 | <locklace> | judd versions octave3.0 |
| 18:47 | <judd> | locklace: octave3.0 -- lenny: 1:3.0.1-6lenny3 squeeze: 1:3.0.5-6 sid: 1:3.0.5-6+b1 |
| 18:47 | <goodger> | better. |
| 18:48 | <Chrono> | judd versions octave3.2 |
| 18:48 | <judd> | Chrono: octave3.2 -- sid: 3.2.0-2 |
| 18:48 | <Chrono> | well, just on sid, :D |
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| 18:50 | <Chrono> | but now i learned. next time ill make things on checkinstall |
| 18:50 | <Chrono> | there are some gtk based GUI for octave? |
| 18:50 | <Chrono> | that work well |
| 18:51 | <locklace> | why are you using octave anyway |
| 18:51 | <Chrono> | Engineering |
| 18:51 | <Chrono> | Student |
| 18:51 | <locklace> | to do what kinds of things |
| 18:52 | <themill> | Chrono: rather than messing with things like checkinstall, you're usually better attempting to backport the existing debian package. The less you fight with apt, the happier your life will be. |
| 18:52 | <Chrono> | ^^ |
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| 18:53 | <Chrono> | but its so interesting do things by the code. I feel alive!! (Compile thing on computer dont better they pergormace?) |
| 18:53 | <Chrono> | performance |
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| 18:54 | <goodger> | not so much that you'd notice |
| 18:54 | <amphi> | Chrono: there's nothing stopping you building debian packages yourself, if you insist |
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| 18:55 | <Chrono> | because on Octave, 1 minute saved on 1 hour is really good |
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| 18:55 | <Chrono> | so much loops |
| 18:55 | <locklace> | but its so interesting do things by the code. I feel alive!! <--- you're going to *love* gentoo. |
| 18:56 | <Chrono> | dont think, i like to do some things by the code. Other i dont care |
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| 18:57 | <Chrono> | like, if i make my gnome by the code, it ll nor be interesting |
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| 18:58 | <Chrono> | kernel compilation gives me enough trouble |
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| 18:59 | <Chrono> | about yesterday i give up. radeon driver uses much CPU |
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| 19:00 | <enouf> | locklace: or LFS :-p |
| 19:01 | <goodger> | I don't believe LFS offers so many opportunities for ricery as gentoo |
| 19:01 | <Chrono> | thats a good question, why radeon driver uses so much CPU (glxgears) while fglrx uses no cpu(glxgears) ? |
| 19:01 | <goodger> | Chrono: because fglrx has hardware-accelerated OpenGL support |
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| 19:01 | <Chrono> | and radeon dont have yet? |
| 19:02 | <goodger> | not to the same extent on your hardware, clearly |
| 19:03 | <Chrono> | humm. cause i use a X1200 , that is legacy. I think radeon will work better, but not... |
| 19:03 | <goodger> | the X1200 is legacy now? good grief |
| 19:04 | <Chrono> | its so bad? |
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| 19:04 | <rispolig> | cfusion.org |
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| 19:05 | <Chrono> | i think since the card go legacy, the driver code are open |
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| 19:05 | <goodger> | that site doesn't even exist. how pathetic |
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| 19:05 | <goodger> | also, no, the GPU specifications were opened |
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| 19:06 | <Chrono> | well, the driver code must be open. they will not update the legacy. |
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| 19:07 | <Chrono> | they arent losing anything |
| 19:07 | <goodger> | I don't believe they've opened any driver code at all |
| 19:07 | <Chrono> | Nvidia opens? |
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| 19:08 | <Chrono> | ok, make uninstall workwed |
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| 19:09 | <goodger> | nvidia hasn't opened anything so far as I know |
| 19:09 | <Chrono> | so why nvidia cars driver for linux are better? |
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| 19:10 | <goodger> | they are better designed, possibly |
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| 19:10 | <goodger> | their openness or closedness is not generally held to have much to do with their quality |
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| 19:10 | <bja> | Chrono: I don't see a relation between a license and the work behind a program |
| 19:10 | <Chrono> | humm |
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| 19:11 | <raylu> | i'm interested in adding colored output to aptitude. where should i start? |
| 19:12 | <goodger> | perhaps if the nvidia drivers had been written using open-source development processes and practises they would be better, but since they weren't, making them GPL would not have any effect on how good they are |
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| 19:16 | <Chrono> | where is the .deb package made by checkinstall? |
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| 19:18 | <Chrono> | or it just install as a package? |
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| 19:21 | <bja> | raylu: /usr/share/doc/aptitude/html/<lang>/index.html from the package aptitude-doc-<lang> |
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| 19:24 | <Chrono> | do you know a way to use GPU to compile some packages? |
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| 19:26 | <locklace> | Chrono: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gpgpu |
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| 19:27 | <raylu> | bja: sorry, i should have been a little more clear. i was referring to the non-curses output |
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| 19:29 | <Chrono> | locklace, it compiles C? It must compile a kernel by example? |
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| 19:33 | <raylu> | also, if i intend to write a patch for aptitude, what version of debian should i get? testing or unstable? |
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| 19:34 | <goodger> | judd versions aptitude |
| 19:34 | <judd> | goodger: aptitude -- etch: 0.4.4-4 lenny: 0.4.11.11-1~lenny1 sid: 0.4.11.11-1+b1 squeeze: 0.4.11.11-1+b1 experimental: 0.5.2.1-1 |
| 19:34 | <goodger> | raylu: there's your answer |
| 19:35 | <raylu> | so testing is sufficient? |
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| 19:36 | <goodger> | from what I can tell, yes; neither of them has a current aptitude, so you'll need the aptitude trunk independently no matter which you pick, and testing is rather more stable |
| 19:36 | <ml|> | raylu: maybe best to talk to maintainer |
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| 19:37 | <raylu> | thanks |
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| 20:02 | <dimedo> | how can i test filesystem latency? |
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| 20:03 | <raylu> | disk latency? |
| 20:04 | <dimedo> | how much time it takes before content delivery starts |
| 20:05 | <Gathond> | dimedo: depends on the circumstances |
| 20:05 | <raylu> | that would be disk latency, and it's difficult to test because of caching |
| 20:06 | <Gathond> | where the data in question is on the disk, how it is distributed and which other processes are asking for disk access |
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| 20:07 | <dimedo> | i'm trying to find out the differences between normal installation, raid1, raid5 and this combined with multiple encryption ciphers |
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| 20:08 | <dimedo> | in both latency and throughput |
| 20:09 | <dimedo> | oftc'Gathond: any idea? |
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| 20:13 | <abrotman> | you want a filesystem benchmark |
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| 20:13 | <petemc> | try and do something, measure the time between when you started doing and when you got a result |
| 20:13 | <petemc> | bingo bango bongo |
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| 20:21 | <xorgi> | hola...alguien que hable espaƱol? |
| 20:22 | <goodger> | !es |
| 20:22 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 20:22 | <xorgi> | #debian-es |
| 20:22 | <dr|z3d> | xorgi: /join #debian-es |
| 20:23 | <xorgi> | thanks |
| 20:23 | <dr|z3d> | de nada :) |
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| 21:00 | <bja> | dr|z3d: I didn't know you were taking Spanish lessons :) |
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| 21:09 | <dr|z3d> | claro, bja. |
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| 21:09 | * | dr|z3d chuckles. |
| 21:10 | <bja> | I can see it is indeed improving |
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| 21:28 | <joydark> | hello i have just installed lenny |
| 21:28 | <joydark> | and how can i change nautilus to be the default file manager? |
| 21:28 | <joydark> | (it is set to thunar) |
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| 21:29 | <bja> | joydark: its the default on gnome |
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| 21:29 | <joydark> | bja: i know |
| 21:29 | <joydark> | for some reason on this install (on a laptop) |
| 21:29 | <joydark> | thunar is the default |
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| 21:30 | <joydark> | it opens one thunar instance for each folder |
| 21:30 | <joydark> | soo. opening /home/user/folder1 |
| 21:30 | <bremner> | what is the simplest command line way to suspend as a non-root user (and without using sudo) |
| 21:30 | <joydark> | is three thunar users |
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| 21:31 | <joydark> | bja: I am running lenny , on a dell d600, with gdm. thunar is the default file manager out of the box. |
| 21:32 | <bja> | joydark: are you running gnome? |
| 21:32 | <joydark> | yes |
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| 21:36 | <adb> | joydark: ls -al /etc/alternatives/ | grep manager |
| 21:36 | <bja> | adb: merci |
| 21:37 | <joydark> | adb: would ye like a pastebin or a paste? |
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| 21:37 | <adb> | joydark: no just look the link to thunar |
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| 21:39 | <adb> | joydark: found it ? |
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| 21:42 | <joydark> | adb: no I don't |
| 21:42 | <joydark> | ook |
| 21:42 | <joydark> | this is wierd |
| 21:42 | <joydark> | sorry |
| 21:43 | <joydark> | went to "about" |
| 21:43 | <joydark> | they are both nautilus |
| 21:43 | <joydark> | when I click on a folder |
| 21:43 | <joydark> | a minimalistic instance of a file manager opens |
| 21:43 | <joydark> | no sidebar |
| 21:43 | <joydark> | no top pane |
| 21:43 | <joydark> | just folders |
| 21:44 | <joydark> | each folder you click on |
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| 21:44 | <joydark> | opens another instance of (nautilus) |
| 21:44 | <joydark> | to display said folder. however when I go to apps-> Sys Tools -> File Browser |
| 21:45 | <joydark> | err, the more traditional nautilus opens up, which actually displays folders (inline) it shows mountpoints, etc.. |
| 21:47 | <joydark> | I have been through the settings of both (minimalistic "thunar-like" ) vs (default) and I see no differnce in (visible) settings. I have not checked the conf files yet |
| 21:47 | <adb> | as root , update-alternatives --help , and try haw it work |
| 21:47 | <adb> | try understand* how it work |
| 21:48 | <vvas> | he gets nautilus |
| 21:48 | <vvas> | he just gets the "spatial" mode of nautilus |
| 21:48 | <vvas> | hm, can't remember where the option is |
| 21:49 | <joydark> | is this the default option for those that choose "laptop" through the debinst? |
| 21:49 | <vvas> | joydark: here's what i can find: |
| 21:49 | <vvas> | "use gconf-editor and set /apps/nautilus/preferences/always_use_browser to true" |
| 21:51 | <joydark> | do these settings take hold immediately, or is an /etc/init.d/gdm restart in order? |
| 21:51 | <vvas> | it should apply immediately |
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| 21:53 | <joydark> | ty vaas. if so, that did not change the behaviour |
| 21:53 | <joydark> | clicking on desktop icons, or going to places -> home still opens it in "spatial" mode |
| 21:55 | <vvas> | hm, weird |
| 21:55 | <adb> | restart gdm .. |
| 21:55 | <joydark> | ty |
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| 21:56 | <duraperidol> | lets see |
| 21:57 | <duraperidol> | same behaviour |
| 21:57 | * | duraperidol searches for other solutions |
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| 22:07 | <duraperidol> | any other ideas? |
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| 22:22 | <raylu> | aptitude depends on vte..... |
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| 22:29 | <adb> | in lenny ? |
| 22:29 | <adb> | what's vte ? |
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| 22:32 | <kapil> | raylu: you mean aptitude-gtk from experimental |
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| 22:33 | <raylu> | i mean whatever i just checked out from the repo at http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/contributing/ |
| 22:33 | <lili_> | how can i install gtk2.0-binver-2.10.0??? |
| 22:33 | <lili_> | it says no candidate options |
| 22:34 | <lili_> | no candidate packages? |
| 22:35 | <adb> | lili_: running what ? |
| 22:35 | <lili_> | apt-get install ...... |
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| 22:36 | <adb> | on lenny ? |
| 22:36 | <lili_> | abd ,it say it is not avaiable.. |
| 22:36 | <adb> | on lenny ? |
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| 22:37 | <lili_> | abd,it`s stable version .etch or something.. |
| 22:37 | <adb> | judd: versions libgtk2.0-0 |
| 22:37 | <judd> | adb: libgtk2.0-0 -- etch: 2.8.20-7 lenny: 2.12.12-1~lenny1 squeeze: 2.16.1-2 sid: 2.16.2-1 |
| 22:38 | <adb> | lili_: i'm ADB .. |
| 22:39 | <adb> | stable version is lenny , btw |
| 22:39 | <lili_> | adb,it says libgtk2.0-0 is already the newest |
| 22:39 | <adb> | and ? |
| 22:40 | <lili_> | adb ,done... I should run apt-get -f install ..with no packages followed.. |
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| 22:42 | <lili_> | adb ,it just canceled my software install plan.... |
| 22:43 | <adb> | good to know |
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| 22:46 | <co_alonely> | kmnk |
| 22:47 | <lili_> | adb, one of my software (linuxqq) says it depends on gtk2.0-binver-2.10.0,which aptitude can`t find .and libgtk2.0-0 already the newest? how can i take care of it... |
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| 22:48 | <co_ganteng> | ghgfx |
| 22:48 | <adb> | linuxqq is a irc client from cn ? |
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| 22:49 | <lili_> | adb,that`s right... |
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| 22:49 | <adb> | lili_: i remember installed it ones |
| 22:50 | <lili_> | adb,how? |
| 22:52 | <adb> | hm , is one year ago .. |
| 22:53 | <lili_> | adb,is that a successful task?? |
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| 22:54 | <adb> | well it seems that it worked , but only cn locale |
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| 22:55 | <lili_> | adb, is that simplely apt-get install package?? |
| 22:56 | <adb> | ah , no |
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| 23:20 | <raylu> | kapil: oh hey, there's a --disable-gtk for configure :P |
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| 23:24 | <adb> | lili_: ping |
| 23:31 | <lili_> | adb,how you install linuxqq |
| 23:31 | <lili_> | adb ,tell me the way |
| 23:32 | <adb> | i installed linuxqq right now on lenny http://paste.debian.net/40375/ |
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| 23:36 | <lili_> | adb it seems it is not in the aptitude pacakge tree |
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| 23:39 | <adb> | lili_: no need, download .deb from http://im.qq.com/qq/linux/download.shtml , and use dpkg -i |
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| 23:43 | <lili_> | adb ,yes it go back to the initial problem, it depends on gtk2.0-binver-2.10.0 |
| 23:44 | <adb> | lili_: you are on lenny ? |
| 23:44 | <lili_> | adb,any way ,i have no gnome on my system.. |
| 23:44 | <lili_> | adb just fvwm |
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| 23:45 | <adb> | lili_: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 23:45 | <lili_> | only 4.0 |
| 23:46 | <adb> | oh ,upgrade to lenny than |
| 23:46 | <adb> | !etch->lenny |
| 23:46 | <lili_> | adb , how? |
| 23:47 | <lili_> | just change the debian_version under etc?? |
| 23:47 | <adb> | Read the release notes, ask me about <lenny release notes>. Ensure your Etch installation is up to date (aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade). Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and change all non-local mentions of "etch" to "lenny". aptitude update; aptitude install aptitude; aptitude safe-upgrade; aptitude full-upgrade. Also ask about <apt-listbugs>, <etch->lenny key>. |
| 23:48 | <adb> | dpkg: tell lili_ about selftell |
| 23:50 | <adb> | lili_: linuxqq wil work great on fvwm too , ons in lenny |
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| 23:51 | <lili_> | adb, yes,i`ll do it... |
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| 23:57 | <blakk> | yo |
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