| --- | Log | opened Wed Mar 04 00:00:20 2009 |
| --- | Day | changed Wed Mar 04 2009 |
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| 00:09 | <serhat> | any girl want talk! |
| 00:09 | <dr|z3d> | serhat: You've come to the WRONG place. |
| 00:10 | <serhat> | shout up |
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| 00:14 | <sudobash> | hey is there a way to open a terminal on the X server from my ssh session so I can use the write command? |
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| 00:23 | <matheus> | hi |
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| 00:29 | <snogglethorpe> | shout up? |
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| 00:48 | <ramortegui> | \list |
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| 01:06 | <Lazha> | does anyone know if x-chat has a way of showing current bandwidth ? |
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| 01:20 | <Steven_M> | hi all |
| 01:21 | <Steven_M> | what's the best way to get an output of all the installed packages who have "gstreamer" as part of their name? |
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| 01:22 | <jm_> | apt-cache/aptitude/grep-available/... |
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| 01:24 | <Steven_M> | jm_: but won't that include not-installed packages |
| 01:25 | <jm_> | Steven_M: ohh sorry missed that, in that case it's aptitude/grep-status |
| 01:25 | <jm_> | and dpkg :) |
| 01:28 | <Steven_M> | jm_: and aren't thoses dashes out of place? That looks like a directory structure |
| 01:28 | <jm_> | Steven_M: what dashes? |
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| 01:29 | <Steven_M> | jm_: sorry, these / |
| 01:29 | <jm_> | Steven_M: that's a slash and it's supposed to be a sign for an alternative |
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| 01:31 | <Steven_M> | jm_: Ohh, very sorry |
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| 01:35 | <tristan> | Quick Question: |
| 01:35 | <insaneNproud> | sorry threw the laptop |
| 01:35 | <insaneNproud> | can anybody help me out with unetbootin |
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| 01:36 | <jm_> | looks like no one can |
| 01:36 | <tristan> | in Lenny, Realtek 8101E onboard ethernet, I have to reinstall the driver r8101 every restart, otherwise ifconfig doesn't show eth0 |
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| 01:36 | <tristan> | any idea why? |
| 01:37 | <jm_> | you mean modprobe? |
| 01:37 | <Steven_M> | jm_: so your suggesting I do aptitude|grep dpkg gstreamer |
| 01:37 | <jm_> | Steven_M: no, the command would be aptitude search '~i ~ngstreamer' |
| 01:38 | <tristan> | jm: I use make install |
| 01:38 | <ene> | guten morgen |
| 01:39 | <jm_> | tristan: so you're using third party driver then? |
| 01:39 | <tristan> | jm: yes |
| 01:39 | <Steven_M> | jm_: ok thanks heaps :) |
| 01:40 | <tristan> | jm: I just did modprobe r8101... should that fix the issue you think? |
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| 01:40 | <jm_> | tristan: no, why aren't you using a kernel driver for it? |
| 01:41 | <jm_> | tristan: what's its PCI ID? use lspci -nn to find out |
| 01:41 | <gsimmons> | tristan: Your device should be supported by the r8169 driver in Lenny, AFAIK. |
| 01:42 | <jm_> | r8169 has lots of issues and there's an out of tree source available from kernel maintainer for it - I recommend you install that if you have issues with 2.6.26 version |
| 01:42 | <tristan> | jm: lspci returns 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 02) |
| 01:42 | <jm_> | tristan: the important part was -nn switch :) |
| 01:42 | <tristan> | ah |
| 01:43 | <tristan> | ;) |
| 01:43 | <jm_> | but no worries I found it in pci.ids |
| 01:43 | <tristan> | gsimmons: r8169 didn't work for some reason |
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| 01:43 | <jm_> | tristan: see above about r8169 - looks like many people have problems with it |
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| 01:43 | <tristan> | jm: the driver r8101 works... I just have to reinstall every restart |
| 01:44 | <jm_> | tristan: who knows why, but it shouldn't be too hard to figure out - just get the r8169 driver |
| 01:44 | <tristan> | jm: wierd thing is |
| 01:45 | <tristan> | jm: 1) I had that previously, 2) I need to rmmod r8169 every restart as well |
| 01:46 | <tristan> | otherwise eth0 doesn't show up on ifconfig |
| 01:46 | <jm_> | tristan: but does it get loaded before you manually do modprobe? |
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| 01:47 | <tristan> | jm: yes it (r8169) does get loaded before any modprobe |
| 01:48 | <tristan> | jm: I am going to restart to see if "modprobe r8101" did anything |
| 01:48 | <tristan> | jm: If I understand correctly, that "inserts" the driver into the kernel? (I am a neophyte) |
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| 01:49 | <jm_> | tristan: wait |
| 01:49 | <jm_> | tristan: check dmesg after first insertion, and before you manually run modprobe |
| 01:49 | <jm_> | tristan: here's the driver -- http://userweb.kernel.org/~romieu/r8169/ |
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| 02:06 | <Steven_M> | I've got libgstreamer0.10-0 installed, would that make me vulnerable to the issues in this Security Advisory?: http://debian.org/security/2009/dsa-1729 |
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| 02:27 | <pinglin> | hi. I need web test tool under debian. Are there any tools like are under windows? |
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| 02:29 | <pinglin> | eg autoit, wapt... |
| 02:29 | <pinglin> | ? |
| 02:29 | <Guest511> | hi can anyone tell me what i can do to finish my linux flashdisk (it stops by 99%) |
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| 02:47 | <Guest511> | hi can anyone tell me what i can do to finish my linux flashdisk (it stops by 99%) |
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| 02:51 | <u774477p> | word |
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| 02:57 | <ene> | is später |
| 02:57 | <ene> | bis später |
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| 04:03 | <LinuxMint-Cholo> | hey ive got a (wat should be) simple question about linux mint, can anyone help that has used it before? |
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| 04:04 | <jm_> | !tell LinuxMint-Cholo -about mint |
| 04:05 | <LinuxMint-Cholo> | will the bot answer now? |
| 04:05 | <LinuxMint-Cholo> | ...jm_? |
| 04:05 | <jm_> | it already told you about it |
| 04:05 | <peej> | what is the recommended dvd writing program for lenny? I want to make debian installation dvds |
| 04:06 | <jm_> | peej: I recommend growisofs |
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| 04:11 | <peej> | thanks jm. btw, the time problem I had yesterday was bios related |
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| 04:12 | <jm_> | peej: right, it just put you off thinking it's timezone issue since the difference was the same |
| 04:12 | <jm_> | it occured to me later |
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| 04:13 | <peej> | are k3b and brasero nice heavy duty gui frontends to growisofs? |
| 04:13 | <jm_> | yeah k3b does recommend growisofs |
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| 04:13 | <jm_> | (or rather dvd+rw-tools) |
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| 04:14 | <CQ> | hello, quick backup question, when backing up DBs, where is a 'normal' place to keep those backups, a user dir, a /usr/local/backup dir, a /var/backup dir, or where? |
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| 04:15 | * | peej wonders if there is a LFS recommendation for backup locations. |
| 04:17 | <CQ> | /var/backup seems to be used a lot |
| 04:18 | <petemc> | a sensible place is on another machine or at least another disk |
| 04:19 | <CQ> | sure, I mirror the whole thing externally anyway, I just want to know where I can ger cron to stick the mysqldump... |
| 04:19 | <petemc> | anywhere you like |
| 04:20 | <CQ> | ok, where I _should_ get cron ... :) |
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| 04:25 | <Clunix> | hello |
| 04:26 | <Clunix> | can someone be of help?? I istalled Debian Lenny and lost my usb ports |
| 04:26 | <djc> | Did you check in the box? |
| 04:26 | <Clunix> | can anyone know why? |
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| 04:26 | <djc> | Perhaps they roller under the bed? |
| 04:26 | <djc> | rolled* |
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| 04:26 | <Clunix> | ahahahah thats funny... |
| 04:27 | <Clunix> | dumb ass |
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| 04:27 | <djc> | Uhm, thats a great way to respond to people who might be able to help. Good luck finding your 'lost' USB ports then |
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| 04:28 | <Tekno> | fail |
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| 04:29 | <djc> | Becuase after all, anyone that makes jokes in IRC is being an ass, and everyone will spontaneously know why something has happened on *your* PC without any additional information at all |
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| 04:42 | <InkBottle> | virtual packages are not treated by apt-cache show <linux_image for instance>? |
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| 04:43 | <test1> | hello all |
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| 04:43 | <test1> | why we cannot do some ping when all of networking is OK ? |
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| 04:44 | <buffoon_work> | test1, do you have a firewall configured which blocks ping or icmp packages? |
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| 04:55 | <andrea> | hi |
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| 05:12 | <test1> | jasgdj |
| 05:12 | <test1> | kjashgedkqwgekjq |
| 05:13 | <Tekno> | anything else? |
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| 05:18 | <fastidio> | hi all |
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| 05:18 | <fastidio> | anybody knows when kde4 come in sid? |
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| 05:19 | <fastidio> | maybe somebody? |
| 05:20 | <jm_> | read the topic of #debian-kde |
| 05:21 | <fastidio> | gracias |
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| 05:25 | <andrew_> | Is there a dns expert in the house? |
| 05:25 | <andrew_> | I'm having a strange problem at the moment, iceweasel and traceroute cant resolve hosts but ping and konqueror can. |
| 05:26 | <andrew_> | this is strange |
| 05:26 | <scientes> | how can i list packages on one system and then install the same set on another system |
| 05:26 | <jm_> | does getent work? |
| 05:26 | <scientes> | and then transfer over configurationgs |
| 05:26 | <jm_> | !tell scientes -about package reselect |
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| 05:31 | <Steven_M> | to add lenny backports, do I just add backports to the main source line like this: deb http://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free backports |
| 05:32 | <weasel> | no |
| 05:32 | <noflash> | !tell Steven_M -about backports |
| 05:32 | <weasel> | see http://www.backports.org/ |
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| 05:54 | <InkBottle> | how do I know what video driver is used? |
| 05:54 | <jm_> | video driver for what? |
| 05:54 | <buffoon_work> | try /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 05:54 | <buffoon_work> | for X |
| 05:55 | <InkBottle> | buffoon_work: yes but what I look for? |
| 05:55 | <jm_> | grep _drv /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 05:57 | <InkBottle> | Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nv_drv.so |
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| 05:57 | <InkBottle> | then how do I switch between nv and nvidia. (I already installed nvidia) |
| 05:58 | <jm_> | specify driver nvidia in xorg.conf |
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| 05:59 | <InkBottle> | jm_: but currently it contains no reference at all to any driver. you know this kind of dummy xorg.conf we have now. |
| 05:59 | <jm_> | InkBottle: yeah, just add it yourself |
| 06:00 | <InkBottle> | I did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it hasn't asked me any question about video and didn't wrote anything new in xorg.conf |
| 06:00 | <InkBottle> | jm_: Ok i do it |
| 06:00 | <jm_> | section device is for Driver "nvidia" |
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| 06:19 | <jrodger> | Evening all |
| 06:21 | <sepone> | i am on a machine that i just now upgraded from etch to lenny. and the kernel 2.6.26 fail to find the volumegroups. it's just stuck waiting for them when booting. i have recreted the initrd without change. i see a log line indicating dm_mod have loaded. what else is requiered for the kernel to find the lvm volumes ? or must they be upgraded somehow ? |
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| 06:34 | <ojirio> | hi, can anyone estimate how long it would take to fix evolution,evince,file-roller in unstable? (just say in terms of hours? days? weeks? or even months?) |
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| 06:35 | <Maulkin> | ojirio: not really. |
| 06:36 | <Maulkin> | Ask the maintainers? |
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| 06:37 | <sepone> | that will ofcourse make it take longer since he have to answer your mail instead of doing the work :) |
| 06:38 | <ojirio> | well if it was in terms of weeks it may help the cause :) |
| 06:41 | <sepone> | in the initram vgchange is present, but no other lvm tools |
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| 06:42 | <buffoon_work> | is there a possibility to open a shell inside vim? not like the :sh command... I'd like to split and then have a shell on one side and the file I'm editing at the other |
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| 06:45 | <sepone> | buffoon_work, how about using screen and the split command and load vim in one of them ? |
| 06:45 | <buffoon_work> | screen can split? cool... never knew that |
| 06:45 | <buffoon_work> | thx for pointing that out |
| 06:46 | <sepone> | http://aperiodic.net/screen/quick_reference |
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| 06:49 | <Junior01> | buffoon_work install vimsh: Terminal/Shell buffer for vim |
| 06:50 | <jm_> | buffoon_work: shell-window help in vim explains this too (screen and splitvt) |
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| 06:56 | <buffoon_work> | ok, thx guys... i'm saving this at some place =) |
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| 07:11 | <hector> | hello |
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| 07:17 | <sepone> | i notice that i get the message vg_system not found before the scsi devices that the volume groups are detected. why are the order backwards and now can i from the initrd retrigger a volume group scan ? and how to make the initram do it in the right order ? |
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| 07:19 | <jm_> | perhaps you could increase the timeout |
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| 07:23 | <sepone> | but if that was the issue should i not be able to vgchange -a y in the initram and find the lvm's ? |
| 07:23 | <sepone> | it works fine in 2.6.18 |
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| 07:24 | <jm_> | to be honest, I have no clue about lvm - compare the outputs (new versions of initramfs can dump lots of debugging info) |
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| 07:26 | <jm_> | another thing to check is if it included all the right modules in the initrd (changelog suggests it does that but ...) |
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| 07:29 | <sepone> | jm_, i have not found modules missing tho unless they changed name from 2.6.18 to 2.6.26 |
| 07:29 | <jm_> | sepone: how did you check? |
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| 07:29 | <sepone> | jm_, just comparing lsmod |
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| 07:32 | <jm_> | sepone: so you're seeing all the devices in /sys/block? |
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| 07:33 | <Shnitzel> | hello |
| 07:33 | <Shnitzel> | anyone online ? |
| 07:33 | <Shnitzel> | who could help me ? |
| 07:33 | <djc> | !asking |
| 07:33 | <dpkg> | if you have a question, don't ask "does anybody know about foo", don't ask if you can ask it... just ask it.. if somebody knows, they'll answer :) Just don't repeat your question |
| 07:33 | <sepone> | not looked at that. only looked at /proc/partitions and in 2.6.18 i see them all. and in the initram i only see the scsi devices sdaX and sbdX but not dm-X |
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| 07:34 | <Shnitzel> | ok :) |
| 07:34 | <Shnitzel> | i`ve just installed debian 5.0 and i can`t change my screen rezolution , those fields from screen rezolution are blank |
| 07:34 | <Shnitzel> | does anyone know how can i change it ? |
| 07:34 | <Tekno> | xrandr is a friend |
| 07:35 | <djc> | Shnitzel, how/where are you trying |
| 07:35 | <djc> | what 'fields' are blank? where? |
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| 07:35 | <Shnitzel> | nu-i nici un roman ? |
| 07:35 | <Shnitzel> | any romanian ? |
| 07:35 | <Tekno> | !ro |
| 07:35 | <Shnitzel> | i`m not that good at english .. |
| 07:36 | <djc> | Tekno, apparently not |
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| 07:36 | <Shnitzel> | Tekno esti roman ? |
| 07:36 | <djc> | I suspect that if anyone did, they would have spoken up already |
| 07:36 | <Shnitzel> | djc ok |
| 07:37 | <djc> | Bănuiesc că dacă cineva a făcut, l-ar fi vorbit deja sus |
| 07:37 | <Shnitzel> | djc i understood that :) |
| 07:37 | <djc> | (Folosind Google pentru a traduce din limba engleză) |
| 07:37 | <craigevil> | !debian-ro |
| 07:38 | <Tekno> | aici nu este romane, dar poate fi in alta parte. |
| 07:38 | <djc> | craigevil, yeah, we tried that already, apparently there isnt one |
| 07:38 | <Shnitzel> | tekno where ? |
| 07:38 | <Shnitzel> | i haw another question , i`m in console now |
| 07:38 | <djc> | http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/details.php?room=%23debian-ro&net=OFTC |
| 07:38 | <Shnitzel> | how do i get back to desktop ? |
| 07:39 | <djc> | oh wait.. thats here |
| 07:39 | <streuner> | dondelelcaro: dpkg isnt here... |
| 07:39 | <djc> | there apparently isnt one |
| 07:39 | <jm_> | how did you leave the desktop? |
| 07:39 | <Shnitzel> | someone told me to press CTRL+ALT+F1 |
| 07:39 | <djc> | !en |
| 07:39 | <dpkg> | The language of #debian is English. We will do our best to help you regardless of your level of English but you might be more comfortable asking for help in your own language. Ask me about your country code for more information, for example /msg dpkg br ; /msg dpkg es ; /msg dpkg fr ; /msg dpkg de |
| 07:39 | <djc> | dpkg is here |
| 07:39 | <dpkg> | no idea, djc |
| 07:39 | <jm_> | press alt-f7 |
| 07:39 | <streuner> | hm |
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| 07:39 | <djc> | he just doesnt know about a debian irc channel |
| 07:39 | <djc> | if its supposed to be #debian-ro on irc, then there isnt one anymore |
| 07:40 | <djc> | I joined it and was the only/first/op user |
| 07:40 | <djc> | er on oftc |
| 07:40 | <streuner> | dondelelcaro: Tekno didnt get any respond for "!ro", but the bot is here... |
| 07:40 | <Tekno> | wut |
| 07:40 | <djc> | streuner, that means there is no "!to" stored in the bot |
| 07:40 | <djc> | !foo |
| 07:40 | <dpkg> | foo is, like, probably the first metasyntactic variable, it's a placeholder for some other term. See <http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/F/foo.html>; and <bar>, also read RFC3092. |
| 07:40 | <djc> | oh bah |
| 07:41 | <djc> | !wt |
| 07:41 | <Tekno> | !debian-ro |
| 07:41 | <djc> | see, no response for that either |
| 07:41 | <djc> | it just means the bot doesnt have any info for that |
| 07:41 | <streuner> | ok |
| 07:41 | <sepone> | jm_, same with /sys/block in the initramfs the sda and sdb is present but not dm |
| 07:41 | <jm_> | sepone: was it sda/sdb in 2.6.18 too? |
| 07:42 | <djc> | Shnitzel, anyway, if you need any further help, we'll have to muddle along as best you/we can in english |
| 07:42 | <sepone> | aye |
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| 07:42 | <aurelian> | i`m back |
| 07:42 | <aurelian> | thanks for that :) |
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| 07:43 | <sepone> | but i have noticed the gdth driver panics the kernel a few times befoore it boots. it looks like this server raid card have a regression atlest it looks that was for 2.6.24 when i google but i foind nothing about it beeing fixed in 2.6.26 or not |
| 07:43 | <sepone> | a inter server raid card |
| 07:43 | <jm_> | sepone: does vgscan find anything? |
| 07:43 | <jm_> | ahh well then that might be it |
| 07:43 | <sepone> | there is no vgscan in the initramfs only vgchange |
| 07:43 | <sepone> | and when i run vgchange -a y it find snothing |
| 07:44 | <sepone> | pretty bad regressions tho this is typical server hardware |
| 07:45 | <jm_> | try 2.6.28 kernel |
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| 07:46 | <aurelian_> | my internet connection is weak |
| 07:46 | <djc> | feed it spinach |
| 07:47 | <aurelian_> | anyone did saw what i wrote ? |
| 07:47 | <djc> | not other than 'i'm back' |
| 07:47 | <aurelian_> | ok |
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| 07:48 | <jm_> | there goes wiener schnitzel |
| 07:48 | <aurelian_> | so , i tried to change the rezolution from System -> Prefences -> Screen Rezolutions |
| 07:48 | <djc> | uh.. i think aurelian is/was schnitzel? |
| 07:48 | <aurelian_> | yes |
| 07:48 | <aurelian_> | :) |
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| 07:49 | <ShoesLife> | DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR WHAT? |
| 07:49 | <djc> | aurelian, try to stick with the same nick, sowe can tell who you are |
| 07:49 | <aurelian_> | ok |
| 07:49 | <djc> | aurelian, ok, and you dont have any options there? |
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| 07:49 | <aurelian_> | no |
| 07:49 | <aurelian_> | nothing |
| 07:49 | <djc> | you might need to recongize xorg |
| 07:49 | <djc> | er |
| 07:49 | <djc> | reconfigure |
| 07:50 | <aurelian_> | how ? |
| 07:50 | <Sadneophyte> | I got a strange bug in lenny... kde I can't get the option in windows behavior 'windows transverse desktops' to work |
| 07:50 | <ShoesLife> | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-sorg |
| 07:50 | <ShoesLife> | *xorg |
| 07:50 | <aurelian_> | my screen shutdown every 3 min .. |
| 07:50 | <Sadneophyte> | any ideas or comments? |
| 07:50 | <jm_> | run xrandr in terminal - how many resolutions does it list? |
| 07:50 | <djc> | aurelian, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
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| 07:51 | <djc> | jm_, hey thats interesting |
| 07:51 | <djc> | hadnt seen that befor |
| 07:51 | <djc> | e |
| 07:51 | <Neox> | salve |
| 07:51 | <djc> | !it |
| 07:51 | <dpkg> | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
| 07:52 | <ShoesLife> | e!pt |
| 07:52 | <ShoesLife> | !pt |
| 07:52 | <dpkg> | Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt ) |
| 07:52 | <aurelian_> | Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1600 x 1200, maximum 1600 x 1200 |
| 07:52 | <aurelian_> | default connected |
| 07:52 | <aurelian_> | 1600x1200 0.0 |
| 07:52 | <aurelian_> | 1400x1050 0.0 |
| 07:52 | <aurelian_> | 1280x1024 0.0 |
| 07:52 | <aurelian_> | 1024x768 0.0 |
| 07:52 | -!- | aurelian_ was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use the paster bot or #flood] |
| 07:52 | <Neox> | tnx |
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| 07:52 | <djc> | sigh |
| 07:52 | <djc> | !pasting |
| 07:52 | <aurelian_> | ah :) |
| 07:52 | <dpkg> | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 07:52 | <aurelian_> | i have 10 screen rezolutions .. |
| 07:53 | <aurelian_> | jm_ |
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| 07:53 | <jm_> | aurelian_: ok then |
| 07:53 | <aurelian_> | what do i do now ? |
| 07:53 | <jm_> | what do you *want* to do? |
| 07:53 | <animesh> | any nosip intern here??? |
| 07:54 | <ShoesLife> | am i online? |
| 07:54 | <djc> | ShoesLife, END OF LINE |
| 07:54 | <animesh> | jm_ or aurelian _ shoeslife is any one of u nosip interns?? |
| 07:55 | <djc> | wtf is nosip |
| 07:55 | <animesh> | or anyone how is a nosip intern? |
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| 07:55 | <hjb> | hi there |
| 07:56 | <djc> | hjb, where?! |
| 07:56 | <aurelian_> | maybe my video card is not installed .. |
| 07:56 | <aurelian_> | how do i install it ? |
| 07:56 | <hjb> | djc :) |
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| 07:56 | <djc> | aurelian_, id suggest using one of the pastebin sites to paste your whole xraanr output |
| 07:56 | <hjb> | i'm searching for a tool which logs the processes on my system |
| 07:56 | <djc> | pastebin.com is good |
| 07:56 | <djc> | hjb, if you are running debian linux, look in /var/log |
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| 07:57 | <djc> | most everything logs to something in there.. /var/log/messages is good |
| 07:57 | <djc> | !google nosip |
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| 07:57 | <djc> | heh |
| 07:57 | <hjb> | like, pid X started pid Y . Y lasted for n seconds... |
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| 07:58 | <djc> | it comes up as some sort of novell program |
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| 07:58 | <jm_> | you can use strace to get such info |
| 07:59 | <djc> | not sure if you'd want it doing that for every pid on the system tho |
| 07:59 | <jm_> | indeed |
| 07:59 | <djc> | why do you want to log every process that runs? |
| 07:59 | <hjb> | djc i just want it to run for a short period of time to know how some mysterious processes running are created |
| 07:59 | <djc> | mysterious?! |
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| 08:00 | <hjb> | djc i'm starting two skripts from within my .xsessionrc |
| 08:00 | <jm_> | then there's process accounting |
| 08:00 | <djc> | you could try ps axjf to see a 'tree' of processes with parent processes |
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| 08:00 | <hjb> | after a hibernation or restart of my wm, there are a lot more instances running |
| 08:00 | <djc> | ps axjfww might be better |
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| 08:01 | <djc> | perhaps they don't get terminated when it stops/hibernates |
| 08:01 | <djc> | and when it restarts/unsleeps, they get started again |
| 08:02 | <jm_> | instances of what - wm? |
| 08:02 | <hjb> | jm_ of the skripts started during xsession startup |
| 08:03 | <hjb> | djc that's what i'm guessing here, too |
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| 08:03 | <jm_> | hjb: that makes no sense - are you saying your X server gets restarted when you suspend the machine? |
| 08:03 | <hjb> | djc that's why i want to log processes during hibernate to see if that's true |
| 08:03 | <jm_> | you can't do that - hibernation stops everything |
| 08:04 | <hjb> | jm_ no, it doesn't. that's why it would make no sense that the .xsessionrc is processed after hibernation |
| 08:04 | <hjb> | but it seems to be |
| 08:04 | <hjb> | or something else starts those skript |
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| 08:04 | <jm_> | hjb: are you using GNOME or KDE or somesuch? |
| 08:04 | <hjb> | jm_ awesome |
| 08:05 | <jm_> | hjb: does it do the same with other window managers? |
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| 08:06 | <hjb> | jm_ i haven't checked so far |
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| 08:06 | <mivok> | Hello. Do you know if Debian 5 Lenny has wvdial by default? |
| 08:06 | <hjb> | jm_ i know that hibernation stops everything, but if there would be process logging available, i'd be able to determine what happens directly after wakeup |
| 08:06 | <hjb> | jm_ do you understand? |
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| 08:08 | <jm_> | hjb: resume calls a few more ioctl-s |
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| 08:10 | <hjb> | jm_ ioctls? how should that create more instances of my skripts? |
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| 08:11 | <jm_> | hjb: that's why I said this makes no sense, I am trying to recall about some issues with s2disk that someone reported on lkml, but I can't :( - it was something that was corrupted, but I don't remember if it was process list |
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| 08:13 | <scientes> | how do i get locales to work right |
| 08:13 | <scientes> | i removed some local data and i want to set it to en_US |
| 08:14 | <jm_> | did you generate it? |
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| 08:15 | <jm_> | !tell scientes -about locales |
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| 08:16 | <hjb> | jm_ ok, so there is no process logging available on linux, right? Then i have to find some other way to investigate this further :-( |
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| 08:16 | <hjb> | jm_ thanks so far |
| 08:16 | <jm_> | hjb: like I said, there is BSD process accounting |
| 08:17 | <hjb> | jm_ hmm, must have missed that |
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| 08:17 | <hjb> | jm_ what is BSD process accounting? |
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| 08:18 | <jm_> | hjb: apt-cache show acct |
| 08:19 | <hjb> | jm_ yeah, thanks :-) found it, too |
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| 08:20 | <djc> | http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/rnr/1058559219.html |
| 08:20 | <djc> | hilarious |
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| 08:23 | <jm_> | hjb: but I doubt this will help you - it was just what I thought about when I read your initial question/description |
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| 08:31 | <scientes> | its not working |
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| 08:31 | <scientes> | i have en_US.UTF-8 and set that as default |
| 08:31 | <scientes> | but perl is still cmplaining, maybe a relogin? |
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| 08:32 | <jm_> | is it in /etc/locale.gen? |
| 08:32 | <scientes> | ah that did it |
| 08:32 | <scientes> | relogin |
| 08:32 | <jm_> | probably jsut changing it to C and back to en_US would do the trick too |
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| 08:36 | <stevem_> | Hi, new Debian 5 install (gnome CD1 only - usual settings) for some reason all single clicks are being treated as double clicks |
| 08:36 | <stevem_> | any suggestions? |
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| 08:39 | <djc> | testing |
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| 09:02 | <frenchy> | is there a way to get nautilus to say how many MB/s you are copying something at? |
| 09:02 | <knoppix__> | hello |
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| 09:03 | <Guest553> | ok |
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| 09:13 | <frenchy> | ok does anyone know if it is possible to create split rar archives with file-roller 2.22 |
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| 09:19 | <djc> | why on earth yo would *create* a rar? |
| 09:19 | <djc> | unix world - .tar.gz |
| 09:19 | <djc> | windows world - .zip |
| 09:20 | <djc> | osx world - see unix world, or use 'stuffit' |
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| 09:20 | <djc> | i mean, its all great to be able to unrar if for some oddball reason something you need is in one, but why perpetuate it |
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| 09:21 | <frenchy> | djc, theres a torrent site i use that has to have split rars |
| 09:21 | <djc> | bittorrent does not require rar |
| 09:21 | <valdyn> | what a retarded site |
| 09:21 | <djc> | any site that requires *rar* is insane |
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| 09:21 | <valdyn> | warez come as rar because they need to get across newsgroups |
| 09:21 | <djc> | perhaps it has a filesize limit, but I doubt it specifically requires *rar* format |
| 09:22 | <frenchy> | djc, i don't like doing it either but they have good stuff :p |
| 09:22 | <valdyn> | but creating a rar for torrent is pretty stupid |
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| 09:22 | <djc> | zip supports splitting files.. |
| 09:22 | <frenchy> | djc, they dont allow zip |
| 09:22 | <djc> | perhaps they 'suggest' rar as a way to make a split archive to fit their filesize |
| 09:22 | <djc> | whats the site.. this I have to see |
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| 09:22 | <valdyn> | frenchy: you can use rar -v -m0 |
| 09:22 | <frenchy> | www.ilovetorrents.com |
| 09:23 | <valdyn> | frenchy: mind the m0 for compressed data |
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| 09:23 | <frenchy> | valdyn, is that for creating split rars |
| 09:24 | <valdyn> | frenchy: yes, nearly |
| 09:24 | <valdyn> | frenchy: -v takes the chunk size as argument |
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| 09:24 | <frenchy> | valdyn, they have to be specific sizes |
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| 09:26 | <jm_> | so specify the size, read the man page |
| 09:26 | <valdyn> | rar is convoluted enough to take bytes as default |
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| 09:28 | <djc> | well I regsitered, but apparently I can't even try to upload at all, so cant find the 'rar uploads only' bit |
| 09:28 | <djc> | in any case, thats an asinine restriction |
| 09:28 | <valdyn> | djc: you dont need to register |
| 09:29 | <valdyn> | "All files need to be compressed into properly sized rar archives." |
| 09:29 | <frenchy> | djc, it should be in the FAQs on how to upload but you cant upload until you have uploaded 10gigs |
| 09:29 | <djc> | i didnt appear to be able to do anything without registering |
| 09:29 | <djc> | uh |
| 09:29 | <djc> | e-read what you just said |
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| 09:29 | <djc> | re* |
| 09:30 | <frenchy> | has anyone tried out ext4? |
| 09:30 | <djc> | thats not in the faq im looking at |
| 09:30 | <valdyn> | djc: its in the RULES, not the FAQ |
| 09:30 | <djc> | frenchy, so are you really saying that new users are not able to upload until they have uploaded 10gigs? |
| 09:31 | <djc> | so how does one upload 10gigs if one cannot upload at all? |
| 09:31 | <valdyn> | djc: upload refers to .torrent files |
| 09:31 | <valdyn> | djc: not to uploading in general |
| 09:31 | <frenchy> | djc, yes, or if you donate money i think |
| 09:32 | <frenchy> | djc, i mean submitting torrents |
| 09:32 | <frenchy> | sorry |
| 09:32 | <frenchy> | valdyn, the rules, good call |
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| 09:34 | <djc> | Well its still asinine, regardless of where it is |
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| 09:35 | <frenchy> | omg im reading whats new in Ubuntu Jaunty and they have disabled ctrl + alt + backspace so people don't accidentally trigger it |
| 09:35 | <frenchy> | valdyn, do you know any good private torrent sites that have open registration at the moment? |
| 09:36 | <valdyn> | frenchy: this is a debian channel |
| 09:36 | <frenchy> | valdyn, sorry i just thought it was funny |
| 09:37 | <valdyn> | frenchy: it is, but trading warez or warez sites is not |
| 09:37 | <frenchy> | sorry |
| 09:37 | <valdyn> | frenchy: thats just offtopic |
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| 09:38 | <frenchy> | is there something wrong with update manager, i have no problem with used the terminal but update manager always crashes and wants to partial upgrade |
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| 09:50 | <jthomas> | Anyone know when a newer kernel will reach Sid? |
| 09:51 | <avu> | newer than 2.6.28? |
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| 09:51 | <avu> | not before a thing like that is release by upstream I reckon :) |
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| 09:59 | <Xeross> | hey, im trying to install apache mod_ruid but this is a source file how can i compile a source file to work with the apache package of debian etch |
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| 10:02 | <Xeross> | ello ? |
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| 10:08 | <SlayerXP> | i'm being bitten by BTS#517231 - is anyone aware of a workaround for this? |
| 10:08 | <SlayerXP> | (also Hi! :) |
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| 10:13 | <homerfreak> | test |
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| 10:14 | <VIP> | hi |
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| 10:16 | <malickxndoye> | salut g un blem lq |
| 10:16 | <malickxndoye> | mon ordi est lent avec xfce |
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| 10:18 | <CQ> | are all variables global in shell scripts? i.e. available to functions that you call, or do you have to pass them? |
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| 10:23 | <peej> | I want to save a disk image from an MSwindows system to debian (and be able to restore it). Efficiently. That means a plain dd is out because the image is 160GB that way. Since the MSwin system is actually only 10GB full, is there a recommended debian solution for imaging intelligently (that will not waste space etc)? |
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| 10:24 | <koollman> | peej: what's the FS ? |
| 10:24 | <koollman> | ntfs ? |
| 10:24 | <peej> | koollman: ntfs on xp |
| 10:25 | <koollman> | hmm. I'm not sure about the restoration part, really |
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| 10:25 | <koollman> | but, it can be read with ntfs-3g, and you can use some tool to save all the data/metadata from that. (like tar) |
| 10:25 | <koollman> | restoration is a bit more complex if you don't have a running windows |
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| 10:26 | <koollman> | I have no idea how to recreate the windows bootloader, or how it works if it's handled the 'hard' way |
| 10:26 | <peej> | it's a desktop, so I can torture it in all sorts of ways that require presence. |
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| 10:26 | * | peej looks up ntfs-3g |
| 10:27 | <CQ> | what's the little command line calculator tool? Thought it was mc, but thats midnight commander |
| 10:27 | * | peej looks up g4l |
| 10:27 | <peej> | cq: bc, dc |
| 10:27 | <CQ> | thanks |
| 10:27 | <gsimmons> | peej: You might be interested in ntfsclone. |
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| 10:27 | <peej> | cq: scale=10 or something like that is useful in bc :-) |
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| 10:28 | * | peej adds ntfsclone to the list of lookups |
| 10:28 | <raytus> | hola |
| 10:28 | <raytus> | hola |
| 10:28 | <raytus> | hola |
| 10:28 | <santiago_> | hola |
| 10:28 | <raytus> | hola |
| 10:28 | <raytus> | hola |
| 10:28 | <raytus> | hola |
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| 10:28 | <santiago_> | hola raytus |
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| 10:38 | <scientes> | how to i file bugs against the installer? |
| 10:38 | <scientes> | what package? |
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| 10:41 | <avu> | scientes, debian-installer |
| 10:41 | <scientes> | ahh jus said it wasnt installed and i that confused me |
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| 10:46 | <jthomas> | avu is 2.6.28 in Sid? I missed that.... |
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| 10:47 | <Manni> | hi :D |
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| 10:47 | <santiago_> | hi |
| 10:47 | <avu> | jthomas, yes it is |
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| 10:50 | <Cadmium01> | is it possible to select and copy a command without mouse in gnome terminal |
| 10:51 | <Cadmium01> | often times I forget to do su, so then I have to retype the command I was issuing |
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| 10:51 | <tjfontaine> | press up and home |
| 10:52 | <tjfontaine> | or up and ctrl-a |
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| 10:52 | <tjfontaine> | hmm not a I guess I fail |
| 10:52 | <tjfontaine> | oh it is ctrl-a screen is just in the way |
| 10:53 | <Cadmium01> | what? |
| 10:53 | <tjfontaine> | ctrl-a is move to start of line |
| 10:53 | <Cadmium01> | up and home pressed togather? |
| 10:53 | <tjfontaine> | no, up then home |
| 10:53 | <mikegrb> | or sudo !! |
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| 10:54 | <tjfontaine> | yes well we're just teaching him about bash history for now :) |
| 10:54 | <mikegrb> | that is bash history! |
| 10:54 | <tjfontaine> | :) |
| 10:54 | <Cadmium01> | tjfontaine, no, up brings prevous command typed, home moves cursor to beginning |
| 10:54 | <Cadmium01> | it does not cpy the line |
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| 10:55 | <tjfontaine> | Cadmium01: you just wanted to rerun a command you forgot to use with su, so just put sudo infront of it |
| 10:55 | <tjfontaine> | or su -c |
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| 10:55 | <Cadmium01> | tj, I understand |
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| 10:56 | <Cadmium01> | how do I copy the line thoght? |
| 10:56 | <Cadmium01> | I know how to use sudo, that's not the point |
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| 11:03 | <Cadmium01> | Why do I have to add myself to sdoers file? |
| 11:03 | <Cadmium01> | sudoers |
| 11:03 | <blockowitsch> | how should sudo know that you are allowed to use it? |
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| 11:05 | <bigeasy> | some could implement the six sense into sudo |
| 11:06 | <koollman> | that would be a bad idea |
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| 11:06 | <koollman> | soon, it would become almost sentient |
| 11:06 | <koollman> | and smack you in the face when you type sudo rm |
| 11:07 | <themill> | If we're supposed to have esp-over-tcp/ip to be able to help people on irc, then we should be able to make sudo sentient in that way. |
| 11:07 | <blockowitsch> | yeah, isn't the sixth sense the one for dead people? dead people can't use super user rights, that would be useless |
| 11:08 | <santiago_> | :| |
| 11:08 | <Cadmium01> | well |
| 11:08 | <blockowitsch> | Cadmium01: sudo is much to powerful and dangerous to do that automaticly |
| 11:09 | <Cadmium01> | I remember that before you used to issue sudo command and the enter root password |
| 11:09 | <blockowitsch> | nope you don't have to enter the root password |
| 11:09 | <koollman> | Cadmium01: that was su, not sudo |
| 11:09 | <koollman> | (it's still su) |
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| 11:09 | <blockowitsch> | you have to enter your sudo password, which is normally the same as your normal user password |
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| 11:09 | <Cadmium01> | so sudo never used root pass? |
| 11:09 | <SlayerXP> | i'm being bitten by BTS#517231 - is anyone aware of a workaround for this? |
| 11:09 | <rfj> | (I personally set sudo to force me to enter the root password when I use it, but that's just me) |
| 11:10 | <koollman> | Cadmium01: if it's set to ask it |
| 11:10 | <Cadmium01> | isnt using user pass as sdo pass dangeros? |
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| 11:11 | <Cadmium01> | how can I set it to force me use root pass? |
| 11:12 | <rfj> | Cadmium01: it mentions it in the man pages, I remember that's how I found out, but I forget exactly how |
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| 11:12 | <Cadmium01> | ok cool |
| 11:12 | <Cadmium01> | thanks |
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| 11:17 | <blockowitsch> | Cadmium01: it's not dangerous if you trust the people in the sudoers file |
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| 11:18 | <blockowitsch> | e.g. if you have only yourself as sudoer, it's not much more dangerous (at least I can't imagine why it should be) |
| 11:18 | <Cadmium01> | I do trust myself, I just thought it wold compromise my user(me) by other programs somehow sudo ing |
| 11:18 | <Cadmium01> | say if I run some app localy and it sudos on it's own |
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| 11:18 | <gigi_> | raga xke non mi accede su amule??? |
| 11:18 | <blockowitsch> | the program that wants to use sudo needs the user password in that case |
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| 11:19 | <Cadmium01> | blockowitsch, ok |
| 11:19 | <Cadmium01> | thanks guys |
| 11:19 | <blockowitsch> | and if you worry about that...the password cache (or how is it called in sudo) is much more dangerous in that case ;) |
| 11:19 | <blockowitsch> | sudo remembers when you entered the pw the last time |
| 11:19 | <blockowitsch> | and if you reuse sudo in a minute or so, it will not ask again |
| 11:19 | <Cadmium01> | I see |
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| 11:19 | <blockowitsch> | so after the first sudo call, any program could use sudo without a password |
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| 11:20 | <rfj> | the default on my computer was to not ask again in 15 minutes... I changed it to 3 minutes |
| 11:20 | <Cadmium01> | how can I force it to clear cache? |
| 11:20 | <rfj> | I'm pretty sure you can change it to not remember at all |
| 11:20 | <Cadmium01> | jfj how did you do that? |
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| 11:21 | <rfj> | I don't remember the details, but man sudoers should explain that too |
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| 11:21 | <Cadmium01> | cool |
| 11:21 | <Cadmium01> | thx |
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| 11:27 | <rfj> | I'm also having a problem... I can't log in via the GUI on this computer, when I try to (it starts up, eventually starts gdm, and gives me a login screen) after I log in, it logs back out, tells me "your session lasted less than 10 seconds, try a failsafe session or review the error log" - the error log said "/usr/bin/seahorse-agent: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libbonobo2.so.0: undefined symbol: g_dgettext" |
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| 11:28 | -!- | mode/#debian [-q *!*@r190-134-207-242.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] by FloodServ |
| 11:28 | <rfj> | pretty much the last thing I did before shutting down my computer last night was installing updates via update manager, which I'd assume is the cause here |
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| 11:30 | <blockowitsch> | rfj: try do remove seahorse if possible. but somehow i don't think that a single process like this one makes it fails to start up |
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| 11:31 | <blockowitsch> | i friend of mine had a similar problem and the cause was a completely full filesystem |
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| 11:31 | <blockowitsch> | try to create a new user and login with him to find out if it's a system wide problem |
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| 11:32 | <petern> | tried a console login, heh |
| 11:32 | <petern> | ? |
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| 11:33 | <rfj> | blockowitsch: also should tell you that when I try logging in with failsafe gnome, it gives me a similar error, except with gconf sanity check (and the library is gconf sanity check too), but the same g_dgettext is the undefined symbol |
| 11:33 | <blockowitsch> | petern if he can read the logs i expect he succeeded witha console login ;) |
| 11:33 | <rfj> | petern: not sure what you mean |
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| 11:34 | <rfj> | blockowitsch: I read the logs because the GUI login has an error message which shows me the logs |
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| 11:34 | <blockowitsch> | ah ok |
| 11:35 | <rfj> | although, I'm chatting here on the same computer, having logged in on... not quite sure on the terminology, the GUI is running on tty7, I'm chatting on tty3 which is a console, I guess... |
| 11:35 | <blockowitsch> | use ctrl+alt+f1 to switch to the text console and try to find out if your disk is full |
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| 11:35 | <rfj> | ah - I was able to log in on tty1 (ctrl+alt+f1), as well as tty2 and tty3 (I'm currently on tty3) |
| 11:35 | <blockowitsch> | ok that's what petern meant as i think |
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| 11:36 | <rfj> | OK - often I won't know what a given term means, even if it means the thing I just did :P |
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| 11:37 | <petern> | so try another update from there |
| 11:37 | <rfj> | petern: OK, how do I do that? |
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| 11:38 | <blockowitsch> | apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrad |
| 11:38 | <blockowitsch> | or wait |
| 11:38 | <blockowitsch> | not sure if dist-upgrade is what you want |
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| 11:39 | <petern> | i think we're told to use aptitude update/safe-upgrade now |
| 11:40 | <blockowitsch> | yepp, aptitude sounds good |
| 11:41 | <blockowitsch> | rfj: aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade |
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| 11:42 | <rfj> | ok thanks, I'll do that and get back to you |
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| 11:45 | <rfj> | sometimes I wish, when using apt-get/aptitude, that when it told you the packages you were about to install, in addition to "install/don't install" you could choose "install these and the recommended packages" |
| 11:45 | <enouf> | it does it automatically |
| 11:46 | <rfj> | pretty sure that's the required packages... it said, "the following packages are recommended but will NOT be installed" just now |
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| 11:47 | <rfj> | when it asked me to confirm the installation, and mentioned recommended packages - I kinda wish it would give me the option to install the recommended packages too |
| 11:47 | <enouf> | no, if your (priority) required pkgs weren't there, you'd be in busybox |
| 11:48 | <enouf> | it does it automatically already |
| 11:48 | <enouf> | unless you did what i did |
| 11:48 | <rfj> | probably used the wrong term... I said "required packages", but meant "packages that are dependencies of the ones you are trying to install" |
| 11:49 | <enouf> | cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/98-recommends |
| 11:49 | <enouf> | APT::Install-Recommends "false"; |
| 11:49 | <enouf> | change that to "true" for apt - aptitude has a -R option |
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| 11:51 | <enouf> | file:///usr/share/doc/apt/examples/configure-index.gz more info |
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| 11:53 | <rfj> | enouf: thanks, that'll be useful |
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| 11:56 | <enouf> | np |
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| 11:59 | <Dark> | joo |
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| 12:00 | <Dark> | terve ihmiset |
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| 12:00 | <Dark> | kukka puhu suomea sisalla? |
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| 12:01 | <antgel> | !en |
| 12:01 | <dpkg> | The language of #debian is English. We will do our best to help you regardless of your level of English but you might be more comfortable asking for help in your own language. Ask me about your country code for more information, for example /msg dpkg br ; /msg dpkg es ; /msg dpkg fr ; /msg dpkg de |
| 12:01 | <antgel> | damn |
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| 12:08 | <ce_imutz> | hai |
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| 12:12 | <rfj> | tried an upgrade... still didn't fix the problem I had earlier - it seems the upgrade itself failed |
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| 12:22 | <Lazha> | anyone good with proftpd ? |
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| 12:26 | <fxiny> | amphi: gorgeous-- xmonad++^32 |
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| 12:26 | <SyNaPtIc> | hi can i receive help from debian? |
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| 12:27 | <gsimmons> | SyNaPtIc: Just go ahead and ask your question. |
| 12:27 | <gsimmons> | !ask |
| 12:27 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 12:27 | <fxiny> | amphi: and you know why ? because gorgeous is too easy ;) |
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| 12:32 | <rfj> | I'm having a problem where, when I try to log in in the GUI, it immediately logs me out because seahorse-agent can't resolve the symbol, g_dgettext in libbonobo-2.so.0 - and when I try gnome failsafe mode, it gives me the same problem except with gconf sanity check and a different library (but the same symbol) |
| 12:33 | <rfj> | logging in on a console works, I tried to use aptitude safe-upgrade but it failed, and I saw the same error message (unresolved symbol g_dgettext) in the midst of the upgrade |
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| 12:35 | <Woet> | How to hide iptabled packets from tcpdump? |
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| 12:40 | <fxiny> | Woet: avoiding promiscuous mode ? |
| 12:40 | <fxiny> | just a track to sniff on |
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| 12:47 | <Lazha> | how can I change folder permissions ? |
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| 12:48 | <fxiny> | you mean dir permissions ? man chmod |
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| 12:55 | <Cadmium01> | how can I add a script to system startup? |
| 12:56 | <petemc> | !startup |
| 12:56 | <dpkg> | rumour has it, init.d is where most Debian startup scripts go. To add your own, copy /etc/init.d/skeleton to myscript and make it do the appropriate thing on start and stop, at least. Then "update-rc.d myscript defaults". See "man update-rc.d" and /usr/share/doc/sysvinit and /etc/init.d/README. Also ask me about <bootmisc> <rc.local> <runlevel> |
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| 12:57 | <Cadmium01> | petemc, thanks |
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| 12:58 | <Cadmium01> | petemc, so I can place any script in init.d |
| 12:58 | <Cadmium01> | ? |
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| 12:58 | <dinamizador> | hola esto es una prueba |
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| 13:01 | <petemc> | Cadmium01: thats not the easiest way |
| 13:02 | <Cadmium01> | what is? |
| 13:02 | <Cadmium01> | I have a script that accepts start and stop and I've already placed it in the init.d dir... |
| 13:03 | <petemc> | in that case you can use init.d |
| 13:03 | <Cadmium01> | petemc, and it will be automatically run at startup? |
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| 13:04 | <petemc> | Cadmium01: did you run the update-rc.d command? |
| 13:04 | <Cadmium01> | no, will do now |
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| 13:05 | <amphi> | fxiny: xmonad is great |
| 13:05 | <amphi> | fxiny: I am very much enjoying ;) |
| 13:05 | <fxiny> | amphi: it is . seen the magicfocus ? |
| 13:05 | <Cadmium01> | Inknown id: update-rc.d |
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| 13:06 | <amphi> | fxiny: aye |
| 13:06 | <fxiny> | amphi: i've been playing with 8 layouts today |
| 13:06 | <amphi> | fxiny: file:///usr/share/doc/ghc6-doc/libraries/xmonad-contrib/index.html is full of delicious things |
| 13:07 | <fxiny> | amphi: yes ! |
| 13:07 | <amphi> | fxiny: it's the most fun wm I've seen yet |
| 13:07 | <fxiny> | amphi: i found out why it freezes : was a wrong xmobar config |
| 13:07 | <amphi> | gorgeous is too inflexible - and anyway, its config file is not compiled ;) |
| 13:08 | <fxiny> | amphi: couple of missing StdinReader lines |
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| 13:09 | <Cadmium01> | I dont have /etc/rcrunlevel.d/ |
| 13:09 | <amphi> | uhuh - I have no bar ATM - I have gkrellm lurking about somewhere |
| 13:09 | <fxiny> | amphi: grab xmobar , it rocks |
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| 13:10 | <amphi> | I'll have a look |
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| 13:12 | <fxiny> | amphi: today i had to learn darcs patching trying to add loadaverage plugin to xmobar . i did patch it but then i could nit let xmobar loading the conf |
| 13:13 | <fxiny> | this lenny is going to be a great box |
| 13:13 | <debianNooB21> | hey guys, i installed openssh-server yesterday. What is the command to stop sshd? |
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| 13:13 | <fxiny> | /etc/init.d/ssh stop |
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| 13:15 | <Woet> | How to force PHP CLI to use a specific network interface? (aka another IP to bind to?) |
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| 13:15 | <amphi> | fxiny: heh |
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| 13:16 | <debianNooB21> | fxiny: i get ssh: stop: Name or service not know |
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| 13:17 | <yoga-fire> | Hello guys, i need help. When i try to start my firestarter it tolds that an error occoured when i tried to load or save firestarter configurations |
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| 13:18 | <fxiny> | amphi: i had some freeze with xmobar but i fixed it . is on the faq but here is better explained : scroll to "When using hPutStrLn in your logHook" at http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Xmonad/Config_archive/John_Goerzen's_Configuration |
| 13:18 | <ranix> | wow, I just found a bug in the Intel e1000 driver for the 2.6.17 kernel |
| 13:18 | <ranix> | guess it's time to upgrade |
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| 13:18 | <ranix> | been a long time since that happened |
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| 13:20 | <fxiny> | debianNooB21: do you have a /etc/init.d/ssh script ? |
| 13:20 | <flokireal> | hi, how can i use qemu as an assembly interpreter. |
| 13:20 | <Cadmium01> | I have a script called hamachictl tht has start and stop (inside) which I placed in init.d. then I did: update-rc hamachictl defaults |
| 13:20 | <Cadmium01> | but it seems hamachi is still not running |
| 13:20 | <Cadmium01> | any ideas? |
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| 13:22 | <fxiny> | Cadmium01: of course : a startup script starts at start up :) |
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| 13:22 | <debianNooB21> | fxiny: yes i do. I just saw my error. I was in /ect/init.d/ then ran ssh stop. i see that ssh is the command for ssh client that I need to run ./ssh stop |
| 13:22 | <Cadmium01> | fxiny, I restarted |
| 13:22 | <yoga-fire> | Hello guys, i need help. When i try to start my firestarter it tolds that an error occoured when i tried to load or save firestarter configurations |
| 13:22 | <yoga-fire> | it dont loads |
| 13:22 | <yoga-fire> | what can i do to solve it? |
| 13:23 | <fxiny> | debianNooB21: again : /etc/init.d/ssh stop , you can read that script |
| 13:23 | <yoga-fire> | please help |
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| 13:24 | <fxiny> | Cadmium01: are permissions ok ? is it executable ? |
| 13:24 | <simonrvn> | yoga-fire: more info. /msg dpkg ask |
| 13:24 | <flokireal> | how to use qemu as windbg. what i want to do is running asm codes directly and debug. |
| 13:25 | <yoga-fire> | Hello guys, i need help. When i try to start my firestarter it tolds that an error occoured when i tried to load or save firestarter configurations. Im using Squeeze. Firestarter worked yesterday. |
| 13:26 | <Cadmium01> | yes it's executable and belongs to root:root |
| 13:26 | <Cadmium01> | fxiny, |
| 13:26 | <yoga-fire> | it isnot working (loading), and i need it. How to solve it? |
| 13:27 | <adb> | reinstall it ? |
| 13:27 | <Cadmium01> | why are there so many rc*.d folders? |
| 13:27 | <debianNooB21> | uses question? I am using 'netstat -ln' to find open ports. is there a better command? |
| 13:27 | <Cadmium01> | they all seem to have same stuff in it |
| 13:29 | <debianNooB21> | Cadmium01: the rc*.d belong to each runleve |
| 13:29 | <debianNooB21> | runlevel. |
| 13:30 | <Cadmium01> | wikipediing it ;) |
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| 13:31 | <debianNooB21> | Cadmium01: I have notice the debian don't not change much between runlevels 2 to 5, the distro like RedHat have the different scripts runlevels |
| 13:31 | <Cadmium01> | debianNooB21, I see |
| 13:31 | <Cadmium01> | interesting |
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| 13:32 | <yoga-fire> | noone can help |
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| 13:34 | <Cadmium01> | what user are the init scripts run as? |
| 13:35 | <blarson> | Cadmium01: root |
| 13:35 | <Cadmium01> | blarson, well it seems it does not work when Ir eboot |
| 13:36 | <wellnow> | system is crashing regularly. it basically just freezes and becomes unresponsive. a fresh install did not help. on reboot, the bios sometimes is 'spotty'. some letters are not seen, it's incomplete... same with disk selection screen at boot. sometimes it just freezes. removed the drive with debian on it and the problem persists, so now i'm not sure it's a hdd problem. not sure where to start though... anyone? |
| 13:36 | <wellnow> | ram? |
| 13:36 | <Cadmium01> | wellnow, how many watt power supply? |
| 13:36 | <blarson> | debianNooB21: In debian, runlevels are available for user customization. |
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| 13:37 | <Cadmium01> | wellnow, test ram |
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| 13:37 | <Cadmium01> | and then try upping powerspply or check video card |
| 13:38 | <wellnow> | 480 i think |
| 13:38 | <wellnow> | same PS i've always had. nothing has changed. how do i check the GPU? |
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| 13:40 | <wellnow> | on a side note, i've had to stop running certain win32 apps under wine because i keep getting an error message about the cpu running abouve threshhold |
| 13:40 | <wellnow> | like a temperature thing. could it be overheating? |
| 13:40 | <wellnow> | it could, huh... |
| 13:42 | <fxiny> | add some sugar ,lemon skin , and "cannella" to that "wine brule'" :P |
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| 13:48 | <peej> | dpkg, hardware problem? |
| 13:48 | <dpkg> | methinks hardware problem is tackled by considering memtest86, overheating (from thermal paste, fan failure (cpu, main, smps, GPU ), voltage levels (external power, SMPS power), badly seated boards binary blobs, sysrq, disconnecting MS windows related stuff, watching application usage, RAM + swap, using top/htop, ps, pstree, vmstat, free, dmesg, logs, debug levels, stop using one app (never let it load) for a while then stress system (compile a ... |
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| 13:56 | <wellnow> | if i want to move an installation of debian to another box for testing something, how would i go about doing that. i've heard something about frying a monitor if X isn't disabled or removed beforehand. can anyone shed some light on this? |
| 13:56 | <wellnow> | just the hdd |
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| 13:57 | <dkr> | wellnow: that advice sounds about 15 years old. ;) |
| 13:57 | <fxiny> | make sure you have not a custom but a default (almost empty) xorg conf |
| 13:58 | <dkr> | wellnow: custom modelines might have been able to cause harm on ancient monitors that long ago. not likely at all nowadays |
| 13:58 | <wellnow> | is there a xorg.conf.old or something on there |
| 13:59 | <wellnow> | ok. i don't know if i have a default xorg.conf lying around |
| 13:59 | <dkr> | wellnow: just look at your current xorg.conf, most stuff is autoprobed by xorg now. so you likely don't have anything like custom modelines in it |
| 13:59 | <wellnow> | my monitor is flashing black |
| 14:00 | <wellnow> | it's not the connection |
| 14:00 | <wellnow> | ... |
| 14:00 | <dkr> | uhm, did you just leap to a whole different topic of discussion? |
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| 14:00 | <wellnow> | no. it's happening right now |
| 14:01 | <dkr> | your question was about something you are planning to do in the future. what did you actually do? |
| 14:01 | <phorce1> | ctrl-alt-f1 |
| 14:01 | <wellnow> | yeah. at first i thought it was the hdd. but i booted into another os on a different drive and the problem is persisting |
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| 14:01 | <wellnow> | :( |
| 14:02 | <phorce1> | oh, nevermind if you booted to a completely different os |
| 14:02 | <wellnow> | yeah |
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| 14:02 | <phorce1> | dead monitor or dead video card |
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| 14:02 | <dkr> | oh, sorry, I didn't see you were discussing a different problem before your question about moving to another system to test |
| 14:02 | <wellnow> | yeah. i had to reboot |
| 14:03 | <phorce1> | move the monitor to a different (working) system to determine which it is |
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| 14:03 | <wellnow> | how can i test the gpu? |
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| 14:03 | <wellnow> | speedfan is showing fires |
| 14:03 | <phorce1> | plug a known working monitor into the system |
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| 14:04 | <phorce1> | if that fails instal a new gpu and test again |
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| 14:04 | <wellnow> | i'm on the same system right now. |
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| 14:04 | <hacker> | hols |
| 14:04 | <phorce1> | i thought it was "flashing black" |
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| 14:05 | <wellnow> | one minute i'm seeing the desktop. then it flashes black and hangs for a second. then i'm back at the desktop |
| 14:05 | <wellnow> | sry i wasn't clear |
| 14:05 | <phorce1> | hardware troubleshooting is 99% parts swapping to figure out which part is dead |
| 14:05 | <wellnow> | gpu shows 54 degrees |
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| 14:05 | <wellnow> | celcius |
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| 14:06 | <rfj> | sorry, got disconnected before I saw any answer to my question - is there a way to undo an upgrade, because the upgrade broke stuff? |
| 14:07 | <wellnow> | upgrade to what from what? |
| 14:07 | <wellnow> | etch>lenny? |
| 14:08 | <rfj> | no, just, Update Manager told me that there were updates, and I installed them, but they broke |
| 14:08 | <fxiny> | did you follow the correct procedure ? /msg dpkg etch->lenny |
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| 14:09 | <fxiny> | rfj: read that and let aptitude fix it |
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| 14:09 | <rfj> | fxiny: I didn't upgrade from etch to lenny, something different (I might have misused a term) |
| 14:09 | <wellnow> | exactly what upgraded |
| 14:09 | <wellnow> | *was upgraded |
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| 14:10 | <rfj> | the Update Manager - program, within the GUI interface, that detects updated packages and notifies you - installed some number of updates, 50 give or take 20 (I don't remember) |
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| 14:11 | <fxiny> | 50 ? are you running squeeze/testing ? |
| 14:12 | <wellnow> | how can i test if my gpu is crapping out? |
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| 14:12 | <Uncle_Sam> | moin |
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| 14:13 | <rfj> | a while ago - months or more - I changed sources.list to take packages from testing (as well as stable) - hasn't messed anything up until now |
| 14:13 | <rfj> | would it be better to just upgrade to lenny (i. e. follow the instructions)? |
| 14:13 | <Cadmium01> | which packaeg do I need to install to be able to ssh into my own machine? |
| 14:14 | <Cadmium01> | openssh-server ? |
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| 14:14 | <fxiny> | yes |
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| 14:14 | <Cadmium01> | fxiny, is that the most common? |
| 14:14 | <rfj> | fxiny: are you talking to me, or Cadmium? |
| 14:14 | <fxiny> | rfj: to Cadmium01 |
| 14:14 | <rfj> | ok |
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| 14:16 | <fxiny> | rfj: i don't know what you've done , i'd set sources to lenny or squeze m it's up to you , and run a simulation : aptitude -s safe-upgrade or -s full-upgrade |
| 14:17 | <fxiny> | maybe aptitude can fix it |
| 14:17 | <fxiny> | rfj: let aptitude -s giving you more detailed info |
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| 14:19 | <rfj> | fxiny: what I've done is, for a while I've had both lines in my sources.list for both stable and testing |
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| 14:20 | <action09> | hi |
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| 14:20 | <fxiny> | rfj: i see , you have a mixed or a borked squeeze system now . lenny is stable and squeeze is testing |
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| 14:21 | <rfj> | fxiny: that would explain it I think, what should I do to fix it? |
| 14:21 | <Cadmium01> | I have a virtual network interface ham0 (hamachi) that is not being initialized properly on startp for some reason, can smone help m e trouleshoot? |
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| 14:21 | <rfj> | also, as I'm under the impression that lenny, now that it's stable, will not get updated versions of basically anything, while squeeze will, so to keep up to date I'd rather still get things from testing (the reason I added it in the first place) |
| 14:22 | <Cadmium01> | I need to run sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart to have it work after I login |
| 14:22 | <Cadmium01> | ut I'd like that on startup |
| 14:22 | <fxiny> | rfj: downgrading sometimes can be done but is always a pita , run aptitude -s safe-upgrade -s is just a simulation so you have more clues |
| 14:23 | <fxiny> | rfj: updated packages ? lenny has thousand of packages to play with |
| 14:23 | <rfj> | 68 packages upgraded, 22 newly installed, 51 to remove and 5 not upgraded, it says |
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| 14:24 | <fxiny> | rfj: aptitude said that ? nothing else ? you are lucky then |
| 14:24 | <rfj> | also, what I meant by updated packages is, the latest release of, for example, Gnome was 2.22 or so, while the latest release on stable was in the 2.teens |
| 14:24 | <rfj> | fxiny: it also listed what the packages were |
| 14:25 | <fxiny> | rfj: gnome ? do you know how many windows managers i have installed now ? 5 |
| 14:25 | <rfj> | also, more info: I did an aptitude safe-upgrade earlier, it failed to fix it and it seemed like the update itself failed |
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| 14:25 | <fxiny> | rfj: don't forget to run aptitude update first |
| 14:26 | <rfj> | fxiny: I had done that before I did the safe-upgrade |
| 14:26 | <fxiny> | rfj: running testing close to a stable release can be a gamble |
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| 14:27 | <fxiny> | borkage is vulturing high |
| 14:27 | <fxiny> | i have my ass under the lenny shield :P |
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| 14:28 | <rfj> | fxiny: I see... I wasn't following the releases, so didn't know lenny was being released |
| 14:28 | <fxiny> | rfj: your falut is in your sources lists : you should have used lenny or squeeze instead of testing |
| 14:28 | <fxiny> | fault* |
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| 14:30 | <rfj> | fxiny: if I change sources.list, replacing "stable" with "lenny" and "testing" with "squeeze", then go through the aptitude updates/upgrades, do you think that would fix it? or should I just comment out the testing lines, change "stable" to "lenny", and use testing again later when it's less of a new release? |
| 14:30 | <rfj> | or is there something else I have to do? |
| 14:31 | <fxiny> | rfj: lenny or squeze , "and" is not an option |
| 14:32 | <fxiny> | rfj: edit sources and read aptitude -s output |
| 14:32 | <fxiny> | squeeze* |
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| 14:34 | <rfj> | specifically, (after sources is edited) first aptitude update, then see what aptitude -s safe-upgrade says? |
| 14:34 | <fxiny> | yes |
| 14:34 | <fxiny> | rfj: and full-upgrade |
| 14:35 | <rfj> | as in, after I find out what safe-upgrade says, try aptitude -s full-upgrade? |
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| 14:37 | <fxiny> | rfj: full-upgrade is the old dist-upgrade |
| 14:37 | <rfj> | fxiny: safe-upgrade says 34 updated, 16 newly installed, 50 to remove and 0 not upgraded |
| 14:38 | <fxiny> | it seems good , is it for squeeze ? |
| 14:38 | <rfj> | full-upgrade says the same numbers |
| 14:38 | <fxiny> | so is lenny |
| 14:38 | <rfj> | fxiny: no, it's for lenny |
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| 14:38 | <rfj> | (I commented out the testing line and replaced all "etch"s and "stable"s with "lenny"s) |
| 14:38 | <fxiny> | rfj: right , try to get a sane lenny system first |
| 14:39 | <fxiny> | it looks like you are getting it right |
| 14:39 | <Pitxyoki> | Good evening! |
| 14:39 | <fxiny> | rfj: aptitude has improved so much |
| 14:39 | <rfj> | Good afternoon Pitxyoki |
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| 14:39 | <rfj> | fxiny: told it to actually do the full-upgrade, so it's doing that |
| 14:40 | <rfj> | so I'll hope it works... |
| 14:40 | <fxiny> | rfj: stick to aptitude |
| 14:41 | <fxiny> | next |
| 14:41 | <adama> | Pitxyoki: good morning |
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| 14:43 | <Cadmium01> | How can I view the log of oot text? |
| 14:43 | <Cadmium01> | boot* |
| 14:43 | <fxiny> | !bootlog |
| 14:43 | <dpkg> | bootlogd is, like, disabled by default. Change /etc/default/bootlogd to "Yes" to get your /var/log/boot file. For the reason behind the default, see http://bugs.debian.org/213028 (fixed since sysvinit 2.86.ds1-11). Not a command (as opposed to dmesg). |
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| 14:45 | <rfj> | fxiny: I've done the full-upgrade, but it didn't solve the problem - also, when I type, again, aptitude -s safe-upgrade it gives me the same 34, 16, 50, 0 numbers |
| 14:45 | <Cadmium01> | fxiny, thx |
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| 14:46 | <fxiny> | rfj: -s is a simulation , you want -y or just aptitude safe-upgrade now |
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| 14:46 | <fxiny> | Cadmium01: np |
| 14:46 | <fxiny> | rfj: -s is for your information only |
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| 14:48 | <rfj> | fxiny: I know, I did the full-upgrade without -s, it tried to install (and seems to have failed - error code 255), but it still gives me the same numbers |
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| 14:49 | <rfj> | fxiny: more detail on failing, it downloaded the packaged it needed, tried to install, the last I saw it had failed installing slime, it exited with code 255 |
| 14:50 | <fxiny> | slime ? |
| 14:50 | <rfj> | Superior Lisp Interaction Mode for Emacs |
| 14:50 | <fxiny> | yes |
| 14:51 | <rfj> | every time I've tried to upgrade, it failed to install that |
| 14:51 | <fxiny> | try removing it first . aptitude -s purge slime |
| 14:51 | <fxiny> | you acn reinstall emacs later |
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| 14:52 | <rfj> | ... in the process of removing, it tried removing other things, including gnome-keyring-manager (marked for removal previously), and on gnome-keyring-manager, it failed, code 127, giving me the same unknown symbol g_dgettext that's the problem in everything else |
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| 14:53 | <josefy> | hi |
| 14:53 | <josefy> | !list |
| 14:53 | <dpkg> | one warez list being sent to josefy |
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| 14:54 | <fxiny> | again |
| 14:54 | <fxiny> | same place |
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| 14:54 | <fxiny> | rfj: i have to go now , i'm sure someone else will help you |
| 14:55 | <rfj> | fxiny: OK, thanks |
| 14:55 | <fxiny> | rfj: good luck :) |
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| 14:55 | <RealMurphy> | Hi all, I've a very weird problem with thunderbird^Wicedove. Something happened (presuably triggered by me) that the main window won't appear anymore |
| 14:56 | <RealMurphy> | icedove -options open sthe options screen, e.g. -compose will not open the compose window |
| 14:57 | <RealMurphy> | it does not appear in the window list, aptitude reinstall icedove does not help, the add-ons all start without problems (as far as i can see) |
| 14:57 | <RealMurphy> | Also, other users (even ones newly created) expereince the same problem :( |
| 14:57 | <RealMurphy> | Any idea what could have triggered this? |
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| 14:58 | <rfj> | RealMurphy: while googling for a similar problem I had, I read something about mozilla programs running into problems with unknown symbol: g_dgettext |
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| 15:00 | <RealMurphy> | rfj: any idea in which library to find this symbol? I've tred stracing and ldd'ing the binaries but so far to no avail |
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| 15:01 | <rfj> | RealMurphy: I'm having the same problem with different programs (in my case, the GUI login...) and don't know what's going on, but the closest I can guess is that it's some kind of typo and supposed to be g_dpgettext |
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| 15:01 | <rfj> | because when googling for symbol lookup error g_dgettext, it asked "did you mean "g_dpgettext"" |
| 15:02 | <rfj> | but I'm nowhere near sure enough on that to try anything with it, because I don't really know anything about this |
| 15:02 | <RealMurphy> | could be, just browsing /var/log/dpkg.log, I recently upgraded emacs23 snapshot from a third repo to my lenny laptop... I'll try to get this trown out |
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| 15:03 | <Cadmium01> | how can I configure certain init.d script to run last on boot ? |
| 15:03 | <Cadmium01> | it's running to early... while networking is not up |
| 15:03 | <RealMurphy> | Cadmium01: look which runlevel is affected and put another number in front of it |
| 15:04 | <RealMurphy> | Cadmium01: standard runlevel is 2, thus /etc/rc2.d is the directory to look into |
| 15:04 | <Cadmium01> | RealMurphy, how do I d that? |
| 15:04 | <RealMurphy> | Cadmium01: if it starts with S19 and you want to have it last you could change it to S99,... |
| 15:04 | <Cadmium01> | the scripts repeat in all rc*.d folders |
| 15:04 | <RealMurphy> | Cadmium01: .. but behold, that you might have broken dependencies with other daemons |
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| 15:05 | <RealMurphy> | Cadmium01: that's ok, which on is it? |
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| 15:06 | <Cadmium01> | RealMurphy, before I go frther, a quick question. I added this startup via command dont rememmber exactly something like init-rd.d mysctript defalts |
| 15:06 | <RealMurphy> | update-rc.d ? |
| 15:06 | <Cadmium01> | right that's it |
| 15:06 | <Cadmium01> | so if I modify it manually now, is that OK? |
| 15:06 | <RealMurphy> | yeah, defaults will put it to S20 |
| 15:06 | <RealMurphy> | sure, but you could use update-rc.d again :) |
| 15:06 | <RealMurphy> | First delete it and then do it again |
| 15:07 | <RealMurphy> | this time with the correct number |
| 15:07 | <Cadmium01> | what wpuld the example be? |
| 15:07 | <RealMurphy> | err, I need the man page for that, moment |
| 15:07 | <RealMurphy> | update-rc.d NAME remove (maybe you need -f as well) |
| 15:08 | <RealMurphy> | update-rc.d NAME defaults 99 (if it should go last) |
| 15:08 | <RealMurphy> | if you want it even later, you could start it from /etc/rc.local but that might not be what you want |
| 15:08 | <Cadmium01> | RealMurphy, that might be what I want actally |
| 15:09 | <Cadmium01> | is it run on login? or before login? |
| 15:09 | <Cadmium01> | the rc.local |
| 15:09 | <RealMurphy> | rc.local is run after the final runlevel was reached, it has nothing to do with login itself |
| 15:09 | <RealMurphy> | gdm for example is S99gdm IIRC |
| 15:10 | <RealMurphy> | rc.local is a file started by the system not by a user loging in |
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| 15:11 | <RealMurphy> | (anyone please correct me if I |
| 15:11 | <Cadmium01> | RealMurphy, I will try and reboot now, see if it works |
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| 15:11 | <RealMurphy> | ... am wrong) |
| 15:11 | <Cadmium01> | thanks for all the help |
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| 15:13 | <maredebianum> | I am justs curious, where the information when to start (S20 is default) is stored. If I use something like rcconf, the start numbers are correct, and in the skeleton example there are Default-Start and -End defined, but not in all scripts. |
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| 15:14 | <valdyn> | maredebianum: and those fall back to the default |
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| 15:15 | <valdyn> | maredebianum: postinstall scripts can do it. |
| 15:16 | <maredebianum> | OK, maybe I should try that with my script again, for now I used update-rc.d to assign the correct number. Ah, I don't have a postinstall for my tiny script ;-) |
| 15:16 | <valdyn> | maredebianum: rcconf will not use the correct value once the correct value is "lost" |
| 15:16 | <valdyn> | maredebianum: script for what? |
| 15:17 | <valdyn> | maredebianum: iirc the update-rc.d manpage explains how to deactivate a service without loosing the number |
| 15:17 | <maredebianum> | printing does not work because of cups problems, have to set some rights wrong. |
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| 15:18 | <E0x> | nautilus is broke in sid right ? |
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| 15:22 | <RealMurphy> | sh... at least emacs-snapshot was not the problem :( |
| 15:22 | <valdyn> | RealMurphy: rc.local in debian is run just like any other init script |
| 15:23 | <valdyn> | RealMurphy: not "after the final runlevel was reached" or whatever |
| 15:23 | <RealMurphy> | valdyn: Sorry, I was not exact enough: "This script is executed at the end of each multiuser runlevel." |
| 15:24 | <valdyn> | RealMurphy: no |
| 15:24 | <valdyn> | RealMurphy: its run at S99, thats late, but not at the end |
| 15:24 | <RealMurphy> | valdyn: Well that was a quote from /etc/rc.local on my lenny system, so "yes" ;) |
| 15:24 | <RealMurphy> | valdyn: but yes, you are right as well |
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| 15:25 | <RealMurphy> | valdyn: since other services can be started in parallel, let's settle on: Usually it's one of the lsat things started ;) |
| 15:26 | <valdyn> | RealMurphy: that comment would mislead me into thinking that rc.local was somehow special, but its true |
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| 15:28 | <valdyn> | and using insserv its S01, thats fucked up |
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| 15:31 | <steffan> | what's a small FTP server for debian? |
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| 15:32 | <zanaga> | is there a guide somewhere for a successful etch -> lenny upgrade on a Xen dom0? |
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| 15:32 | <zanaga> | I haven't had real luck with previous upgrades |
| 15:32 | <steffan> | !etch->lenny |
| 15:33 | <zanaga> | steffan: release notes didn't mention anything special about Xen, that's why i'm asking.. not mentioning anything doesn't mean that there isn't anything |
| 15:33 | <RealMurphy> | steffan: is vsftpd small enough? |
| 15:33 | <steffan> | RealMurphy: i'll give it a shot. |
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| 15:34 | <steffan> | !vsftpd |
| 15:34 | <dpkg> | well, vsftpd is a GPL licensed FTP server for UNIX systems, including Linux. It is secure and extremely fast. It is stable. Don't take my word for it, though. Below, we will see evidence supporting all three assertions. We will also see a list of a few important sites which are happily using vsftpd. This demonstrates vsftpd is a mature and trusted solution. used by large sites such as ftp://ftp.redhat.com ftp://ftp.kernel.org ftp://ftp.openbsd.org and ... |
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| 15:39 | <stratis> | hallo ? |
| 15:39 | <Sph3re-> | ok, i seriously need some help :/ |
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| 15:46 | <RealMurphy> | Sph3re-: Then just ask the question... |
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| 15:47 | <Cadmium01> | I am trying to do this: sudo route add -net 5.0.0.0 gw 5.155.105.190 netmask 255.0.0.0 dev ham0 |
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| 15:47 | <Cadmium01> | and get error: SIOCADDRT: No such process, any ideas why? |
| 15:48 | <lucca> | bash 3.2-5 breaks command history for me; reverting to 3.2-4 fixes... anyone else seeing this? |
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| 15:48 | <tenemag> | Hi, Can anyone help me in setting up iSCSI? |
| 15:49 | <Sph3re-> | my etch box is really foobare'd from trying to upgrade to lenny |
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| 15:49 | <Sph3re-> | i followed the guide |
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| 15:49 | <Sph3re-> | but it never got past the safe-upgrade part |
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| 15:49 | <tenemag> | I have two machines on a lan connected to the same switch, I want to use iSCSI on one of them (horus) initiated by the other (osiris) |
| 15:49 | <Sph3re-> | throwing errors on unresolved dependencies |
| 15:50 | <Sph3re-> | and linbxml2 and gzopen64 errors |
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| 15:52 | <tenemag> | can anyone point me in the right direction of setting up openfiler on the target? |
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| 15:53 | <tenemag> | Anyone? |
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| 15:55 | <unnilhexium> | cool |
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| 15:57 | <tenemag> | is anyone even here right now? |
| 15:57 | <Sph3re-> | i am |
| 15:57 | <RealMurphy> | Sph3re-: pew, hard question, no idea, sorry |
| 15:57 | <unnilhexium> | i am |
| 15:58 | <mase> | me too |
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| 15:58 | <dr|z3d> | !ask |
| 15:58 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 15:58 | <tenemag> | Heh, at least a few people are... i was gonna say it's really quiet, usually more busy |
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| 15:58 | <Sph3re-> | why can't an update ever go smooth |
| 15:58 | <tenemag> | i'm trying to set up iSCSI for my class that i'm taking but i dont know how lol |
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| 16:02 | <Cadmium01> | When does internet become available for hamachi? |
| 16:02 | <Cadmium01> | scratch that |
| 16:03 | <Cadmium01> | when does intenet become available for boot scripts? |
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| 16:03 | <dkr> | when the boot scripts start it, :) |
| 16:03 | <Cadmium01> | dkr, well it seems hamachi is unable to do it's loogin on boot |
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| 16:07 | <lucca> | well, opened 518219 |
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| 16:22 | <Cadmium01> | I have a script that I run in rc.local |
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| 16:23 | <Tekno> | okay. |
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| 16:23 | <Cadmium01> | it seems that hamachi logs in hen I log into computer and run command myself, but it fails if I try to execute same line in rc.local |
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| 16:24 | <dr|z3d> | Cadmium01: Try ghamachi, you'll save yourself a lot of hassle. |
| 16:24 | <dr|z3d> | Cadmium01: You'll want to copy ghamachi to /usr/bin and launch with gksudo. |
| 16:25 | <Cadmium01> | dr|z3d, I need to run hamachi on startup though, does ghamachi offer that? |
| 16:25 | <xno> | hello, does anyone know how to change the google.com/firefox "start" page that opens if I press ctrl-k? |
| 16:25 | <dr|z3d> | Cadmium01: 0.81 is the version you want to locate, on the penguinbytes forum (or elsewhere). |
| 16:26 | <dr|z3d> | Cadmium01: Sure, you can launch it within your sesson with gksudo |
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| 16:26 | <Cadmium01> | dr|z3d, well, actually I want it to run even if noone is logged in |
| 16:27 | <Cadmium01> | dr|z3d, so basically if compter is restarted but noone logs in, I still need the hamachi running and connected |
| 16:27 | <dr|z3d> | Cadmium01: Hmm.. that gets a bit more tricky. You definitely need root to run hamachi, at least I find that the case there.. it is a bit hmm.. tricky sometimes, less than compliant. |
| 16:28 | <Cadmium01> | dr|z3d, I have it all set up and working |
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| 16:28 | <Cadmium01> | the only problem is same command that works when I'm logged in does not work from rc.local |
| 16:29 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 409] by debhelper |
| 16:29 | <dr|z3d> | Cadmium01: Sounds like a startup script might be an idea.. you'd have to google for the specifics. |
| 16:29 | <dr|z3d> | And when you *are* logged in, ghamachi is very useful. |
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| 16:30 | <Cadmium01> | dr|z3d, is PenguinByte down? |
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| 16:34 | <dr|z3d> | Nfi, Cadmium01 |
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| 16:34 | <Cadmium01> | what's Nfi? |
| 16:34 | <dr|z3d> | Try via http://anonymouse.org for a second opinion. perhaps.. |
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| 16:34 | <dr|z3d> | No funkin' idea. :) |
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| 16:36 | <Cadmium01> | lol |
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| 17:06 | <berthold> | hallo everybody. I have a strange problem. I do not have /dev/video and can not intall my Logitech webcam. |
| 17:07 | <berthold> | who knows what I can do? I am new to Debian (tired of Suse), but I do not know how to handle this problem |
| 17:08 | <lupine> | berthold, first step is generally to pray that there's a linux driver for the webcam. some have one, some don'tg |
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| 17:08 | <lupine> | if it's usb, then do lsusb and find the usb:id (format xxxx:xxxx) - you can use that to discover which driver to use |
| 17:08 | <berthold> | indeed, I never had a problem with suse, ujntil recently (new kernel, new KDE) |
| 17:08 | <lupine> | then you typically have to install the driver (module-assistant style) |
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| 17:10 | <berthold> | ok, I have got the info 046d:08d9 |
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| 17:11 | <berthold> | how do I use the logitech webcam related 046d:08d9 to find out the correct driver? |
| 17:11 | <mostafadn> | hey guys |
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| 17:11 | <mostafadn> | I've made my own changes in localechooser (udeb source package) and also ran make |
| 17:12 | <mostafadn> | I don't know how to make a .udeb of what I've done |
| 17:12 | <mostafadn> | .udeb of the localechooser package |
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| 17:15 | <mostafadn> | easy, how to make a .udeb? |
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| 17:20 | <kleinemaus38486> | hi |
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| 17:21 | <ShoesLife> | hi |
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| 17:21 | <ShoesLife> | which browser do you guys use? firefox is so slow |
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| 17:22 | <Chrono> | Hello guys, after some updates-upgrades on Squeeze, some of my programs stopped working. like firestarter, gedit(some errors, but works). I have read that its for adaptation for a new gnome. |
| 17:22 | <lupine> | Firefox |
| 17:23 | <Chrono> | (Iceweasel xD) |
| 17:23 | <dr|z3d> | ShoesLife: Try Midori, perhaps. |
| 17:23 | <Chrono> | Must be true? There is anything i can do? |
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| 17:25 | <Chrono> | Hello guys, after some updates-upgrades on Squeeze, some of my programs stopped working. like firestarter, gedit(some errors, but works). I have read that its for adaptation for a new gnome. Must be true? There is anything i can do? |
| 17:26 | <lucca> | heh |
| 17:26 | <lucca> | Chrono: troubleshoot and file bug reports perhaps? |
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| 17:27 | <lucca> | or go chase after marle... |
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| 17:27 | <Chrono> | I must wait for new updates so? |
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| 17:28 | <lucca> | no; you can troubleshoot and identify the problems and submit patches even |
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| 17:28 | <Chrono> | hmm thannks |
| 17:28 | <lucca> | if you aren't comfortable doing that |
| 17:29 | <lucca> | you probably shouldn't be running squeeze? |
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| 17:31 | <do> | ? |
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| 17:32 | <amphi> | don't |
| 17:32 | <berthold> | Thanks for all tips regarding my webcam, it is working1 |
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| 17:37 | <tisker> | Hi, All! |
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| 17:38 | <adama> | hi tisker |
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| 17:38 | <adama> | how's life |
| 17:38 | <tisker> | Say me please how to setup russian ability for keyboard in Lenny? |
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| 17:39 | <tisker> | I install Lenny without russian, only english. Now I want to type in russian chars in brouser |
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| 17:39 | <tisker> | And I can't |
| 17:39 | <tisker> | help |
| 17:40 | <amphi> | !ru |
| 17:40 | <dpkg> | Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net |
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| 17:40 | <amphi> | tisker: perhaps they will know, if no one here does |
| 17:40 | <mase> | tisker install the russian localisation packages for gnome? |
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| 17:41 | <pasquale> | hi all |
| 17:41 | <tisker> | What name of package to install russian localization? |
| 17:41 | <mase> | tisker i dont know. do you use gnome or kde? |
| 17:42 | <tisker> | Openbox pure. But already have installed gnome-terminal and gedit - gnome ) |
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| 17:42 | <mase> | tisker oh, i don't know openbox. there is a quite "built in" keyboard layot changer for kde but that wont help you i think |
| 17:43 | <pasquale> | ive a problem with debian, after i installed it, i cannot enter to the desktop, after i boot it says "setting console screen modes and fonts",but it never gets to the desktop |
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| 17:44 | <pasquale> | im really going crazy, i re-installed like 5 times today |
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| 17:44 | <mase> | pasquale you installed the x-server, desktop-manager and everything? |
| 17:44 | <pasquale> | yes |
| 17:45 | <pasquale> | i used the graphic installation, i selected "desktop environment" and "basic system", so i guess i did install it |
| 17:45 | <mase> | pasquale you should track your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see why the x-server is not starting |
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| 17:45 | <azeem> | pasquale: do you get a "Login: " prompt? |
| 17:45 | <pasquale> | nop |
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| 17:46 | <pasquale> | i dont even get that |
| 17:46 | <pasquale> | its just stuck at "setting console screen modes and fonts" |
| 17:46 | <azeem> | then it's not your X |
| 17:46 | <azeem> | pasquale: what kind of box is that? |
| 17:46 | <mase> | pasquale oh, not even able to login in text-mode? |
| 17:46 | <pasquale> | nop |
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| 17:47 | <pasquale> | azeemhow its lenny 5.0 |
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| 17:47 | <azeem> | pasquale: hardware, I mean |
| 17:47 | <pasquale> | oh |
| 17:47 | <pasquale> | intel core |
| 17:47 | <mase> | :D |
| 17:47 | <pasquale> | duo i guess |
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| 17:48 | <pasquale> | intelcore 2duo, asus |
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| 17:49 | <pasquale> | 1 gb of ram / 250gb of hd |
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| 17:49 | <azeem> | pasquale: how do you reinstall X when it doesn't boot properly? |
| 17:50 | <pasquale> | azeem i dont reinstall it, i dont know how yet, i just tried to reinstall the whole os |
| 17:50 | <azeem> | oh |
| 17:51 | <pasquale> | sometimes while i was downloading the packages with the netinst it also got stuck, i had to do all over again |
| 17:51 | <azeem> | pasquale: I suggest you file a installtion-reports bug then |
| 17:51 | <azeem> | pasquale: could be a hardware issue |
| 17:51 | <azeem> | does it always hang at the same spot? |
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| 17:51 | <pasquale> | yes |
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| 17:51 | <pasquale> | always at "setting console screen modes and fonts" |
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| 17:53 | <pasquale> | i tried to check with google, i didnt find so much |
| 17:54 | <azeem> | 23:49 < azeem> pasquale: I suggest you file a installtion-reports bug then |
| 17:54 | <pasquale> | i see |
| 17:54 | <azeem> | or maybe try to install 4.0 and see whether that works |
| 17:55 | <pasquale> | azeem time ago i did have already 4.0 and it worked fine |
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| 17:55 | <azeem> | on the same machine? |
| 17:55 | <pasquale> | yes |
| 17:55 | <azeem> | hrm |
| 17:55 | <pasquale> | i even installed compiz lol |
| 17:56 | <pasquale> | it worked normally =/ |
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| 17:58 | <pasquale> | azeem its like totally frozen, it doesnt let me do anything |
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| 17:58 | <azeem> | pasquale: what graphics card do you have? |
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| 17:59 | <pasquale> | azeem nvidia geforze 8600 gt |
| 17:59 | <pasquale> | 512 mb |
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| 18:00 | <pasquale> | geforce* |
| 18:00 | <Docinho> | Meu deusu |
| 18:00 | <Docinho> | onde q eu cai q rede é essa |
| 18:00 | <Slurb> | thats what causes the freeze i bet |
| 18:00 | <azeem> | !br |
| 18:00 | <dpkg> | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 18:00 | <Slurb> | mine was freezy on install |
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| 18:01 | <pasquale> | azeem whys that |
| 18:02 | <azeem> | why is what? |
| 18:02 | <pasquale> | why would it cause the freeze? |
| 18:02 | <azeem> | I don't know |
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| 18:02 | <azeem> | pasquale: if know how, edit the grub command line and add "init=/bin/sh" |
| 18:02 | <azeem> | and see whether that drops you into a shell |
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| 18:03 | <pasquale> | ok |
| 18:05 | <pasquale> | azeem which one, kernel/root/initrd? |
| 18:05 | <azeem> | kernel |
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| 18:08 | <pasquale> | azeem nothing, still the same |
| 18:10 | <pasquale> | ive to reboot manually cause its frozen |
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| 18:15 | <enouf> | pasquale: intel core what? |
| 18:16 | <pasquale> | 2duo |
| 18:16 | <azeem> | pasquale: looks like http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=516630 |
| 18:16 | <enouf> | 32bit? using amd64 arch? reseat your system RAM, go over BIOS settings - don't know why you think it's the video card |
| 18:17 | <azeem> | *I* wondered about that |
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| 18:18 | <schiros> | so, I grabbed the latest updates to squeeze, and now libgtk is broken. has anyone else experienced this? |
| 18:18 | <azeem> | pasquale: what are you running right now? |
| 18:18 | <azeem> | schiros: could well be, squeeze is pretty unstable right now |
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| 18:18 | <schiros> | sadface |
| 18:18 | <pasquale> | azeem yes it is the same as me.. even when i tried with the textual installation didnt work either, the screen became black and that was it.. |
| 18:19 | <pasquale> | azeem now im still stuck at "etting console screen modes and fonts" |
| 18:19 | <pasquale> | setting* |
| 18:19 | <azeem> | pasquale: 00:16 < azeem> pasquale: what are you running right now? |
| 18:20 | <pasquale> | how u mean? |
| 18:20 | <azeem> | is that computer on or are you chatting from a different box? |
| 18:20 | <pasquale> | no no |
| 18:20 | <pasquale> | this is a laptop |
| 18:20 | <azeem> | that doesn't answer my question |
| 18:20 | <pasquale> | i use windows here, it's my sister's laptop |
| 18:20 | <azeem> | ok |
| 18:21 | <pasquale> | sorry if i seem retarded but my english is not so good |
| 18:21 | <azeem> | no problem |
| 18:21 | <azeem> | you found a serious bug |
| 18:21 | <azeem> | pasquale: can you maybe try the Debian Live CD? |
| 18:21 | <azeem> | live.debian.net |
| 18:21 | <pasquale> | azeem alright |
| 18:22 | <azeem> | pasquale: wait |
| 18:22 | <enouf> | pasquale: here's a piece of my boot log http://rafb.net/p/EXfxEs67.html |
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| 18:22 | <pasquale> | ok |
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| 18:22 | <azeem> | pasquale: what CD did you install? i386 or amd64? |
| 18:22 | <pasquale> | i386 |
| 18:22 | <azeem> | pasquale: can you try with amd64? |
| 18:22 | <pasquale> | sure |
| 18:22 | <azeem> | that'd be useful |
| 18:22 | <enouf> | i have no idea why those console control chars are there like that |
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| 18:22 | <azeem> | enouf: because it changes the console fonts I guess |
| 18:23 | <pasquale> | azeem ok i will do that, going to download it right now. always netinst? |
| 18:23 | <azeem> | and does a redraw or whatever |
| 18:23 | <azeem> | pasquale: yeah, that's fine |
| 18:23 | <pasquale> | alright |
| 18:24 | <enouf> | pasquale: try to blacklist nvidiafb, rivafb or anything like that - or try vga=791 or something .. i'm guessing though |
| 18:24 | <azeem> | enouf: eh |
| 18:24 | <azeem> | enouf: his box doesn't boot |
| 18:25 | <pasquale> | enouf how do i do that? i've no control over it, it doesn't boot |
| 18:25 | <azeem> | vga=791 migth work though |
| 18:25 | <azeem> | pasquale: try to add that instead of init=/bin/sh at the end of the kernel line |
| 18:25 | <enouf> | you can blacklist on the kernel line |
| 18:25 | <azeem> | enouf: ok, sorry then |
| 18:25 | <pasquale> | oh ok |
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| 18:26 | <azeem> | nvidiafb is more likely |
| 18:26 | <enouf> | http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch05s02.html |
| 18:26 | <enouf> | i just can't be bothered walking through the entire initrd right now, looking for items |
| 18:27 | <pasquale> | sorry, what should i add to it |
| 18:27 | <enouf> | pasquale: show us what you have |
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| 18:29 | <pasquale> | kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-686 root= /dev/sda1 ro quiet |
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| 18:30 | <Trollinator> | I use sid and i can't install linux-headers-2.6.28-1-686 because it depends on linux-kbuild-2.6.28, which isn't available. |
| 18:30 | <Trollinator> | does anybody else have this problem too? |
| 18:30 | <azeem> | Trollinator: probably |
| 18:31 | <azeem> | Trollinator: typical sid problem |
| 18:31 | <Trollinator> | i don't understand. Why do they put the headers package into the repository if one can't possibly install it anyway? |
| 18:31 | <azeem> | Trollinator: it's unstable |
| 18:31 | <enouf> | pasquale: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-686 root=/dev/sda1 ro nvidiafb.blacklist=yes rivafb.blacklist=yes vga=791 |
| 18:32 | <Trollinator> | that's not a reason. |
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| 18:32 | <azeem> | Trollinator: the headers are from the same package as the kernel image |
| 18:32 | <azeem> | Trollinator: unstable users want the new kernel image |
| 18:32 | <azeem> | the headers are just collateral damage |
| 18:32 | <pasquale> | azeem "ro" without "quiet"? |
| 18:32 | <azeem> | don't worry about quiet |
| 18:32 | <enouf> | yes |
| 18:32 | <Trollinator> | I'm an unstable user and i need the headers. |
| 18:32 | <enouf> | 'quiet' sucks |
| 18:32 | <azeem> | Trollinator: tough luck |
| 18:33 | <Trollinator> | i guess :( |
| 18:33 | <enouf> | Trollinator: solution is simple |
| 18:33 | <azeem> | Trollinator: there's a kernel-team snapshot build server somewhere |
| 18:33 | <pasquale> | ok going to add it then |
| 18:33 | <enouf> | build the linux-kbuild-... yourself |
| 18:33 | <azeem> | pasquale: make sure you don't typo |
| 18:33 | <eljefe> | can anyone help me to build the Fglrx driver on Testing? |
| 18:33 | <eljefe> | well maybe more Sid |
| 18:34 | <Trollinator> | azeem: i wouldn't mind going on with .26. But the .26 headers aren't available anymore in the repository. |
| 18:34 | <Trollinator> | enouf: great, where can i find it? |
| 18:34 | <azeem> | Trollinator: snapshot.debian.net |
| 18:34 | <enouf> | Trollinator: /msg dpkg trunk kernel |
| 18:34 | <Trollinator> | /msg dpkg trunk kernel |
| 18:34 | <stew> | judd: versions linu-headers-2.6.26-1-686 |
| 18:34 | <judd> | stew: linu-headers-2.6.26-1-686 -- |
| 18:34 | <azeem> | Trollinator: maybe consider running testing instead if you can't manage |
| 18:34 | <Trollinator> | thanks. |
| 18:34 | <eljefe> | i ran m-a a-i fgrlx-kernel-src and then modprobed it but it won't start X after a reboot |
| 18:34 | <stew> | judd: versions linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686 |
| 18:34 | <judd> | stew: linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686 -- lenny: 2.6.26-13 squeeze: 2.6.26-13 |
| 18:35 | <stew> | Trollinator: that package is still available ^^ |
| 18:36 | <Trollinator> | judd: when i do "aptitude search linux-headers", it won't find the .26 ones. |
| 18:36 | <judd> | Trollinator: Error: "when" is not a valid command. |
| 18:36 | <Trollinator> | err, stew, i meant. |
| 18:36 | <azeem> | Trollinator: if you're dependent on APT, you have even less business running untable |
| 18:36 | <azeem> | and/or aptitude |
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| 18:36 | <ToLgA> | hi |
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| 18:36 | <pasquale> | azeem, enouf, it works |
| 18:37 | <azeem> | pasquale: wow, great |
| 18:37 | <azeem> | pasquale: can you do me a favour? |
| 18:37 | <pasquale> | azeem sure |
| 18:37 | <Trollinator> | what else am i supposed to do? |
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| 18:37 | <azeem> | it's very important to know which option exactly fixed it |
| 18:37 | <azeem> | pasquale: so please remove the vga=971, only add the nvidiafb.blacklist=yes |
| 18:37 | <enouf> | Trollinator: follow the url, that dpkg told you |
| 18:37 | <azeem> | and see whether that works as well |
| 18:37 | <pasquale> | alright |
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| 18:38 | <enouf> | s/971/791 ;-) |
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| 18:38 | <enouf> | (but i think he got the point) |
| 18:38 | <pasquale> | azeem do i also remove rivafb.blacklist=yes? or only vga=971 |
| 18:38 | <azeem> | pasquale: remove both |
| 18:38 | <pasquale> | ok |
| 18:38 | <azeem> | only add nvidiafb.blacklist=yes |
| 18:38 | <azeem> | if that doesn't work, try the next one, and so on |
| 18:38 | <azeem> | pasquale: thanks a lot! |
| 18:38 | <pasquale> | ah ok |
| 18:39 | <pasquale> | azeem no no, thanks to you! |
| 18:39 | <azeem> | well, thanks to enouf |
| 18:39 | <enouf> | pasquale: yes, thanks for testing, so we can hopefully fix it |
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| 18:39 | <enouf> | azeem: ;-) |
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| 18:40 | <ToLgA> | türkçe bilen yokmu burda :D |
| 18:41 | <Trollinator> | enouf: that repository also doesn't contain the needed linux-kbuild-2.6.28 package. |
| 18:41 | <azeem> | ToLgA: don't /msg people |
| 18:41 | <azeem> | !tr |
| 18:41 | <dpkg> | tr is, like, türkçe yardIm için #debian.tr (irc.freenode.net): -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr on irc.freenode.net, or http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~rakewell/z88/keyboards/turkish.jpg |
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| 18:41 | <ToLgA> | azeem ! filan yapma sikerim belaný :) |
| 18:41 | <azeem> | !tr |
| 18:41 | <dpkg> | somebody said tr was türkçe yardIm için #debian.tr (irc.freenode.net): -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr on irc.freenode.net, or http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~rakewell/z88/keyboards/turkish.jpg |
| 18:41 | <azeem> | ToLgA: I don't speak turkish |
| 18:41 | <ToLgA> | :( |
| 18:42 | <pasquale> | guys it only seems to work when we add vga=791 |
| 18:42 | <azeem> | ok |
| 18:42 | <enouf> | Trollinator: you're not following the directions .. unless .. migration has occured .. let me see |
| 18:42 | <azeem> | pasquale: only adding vga=791 works? |
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| 18:42 | <stew> | Trollinator: if you don't see a linu-headers-2.6.26-1-686 package available, then you must not have lenny or squeeze sources. |
| 18:42 | <pasquale> | azeem yes |
| 18:42 | <azeem> | pasquale: do you have a graphical login now? |
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| 18:43 | <pasquale> | not now, because i was trying without vga this time, and it didnt work |
| 18:43 | <pasquale> | earlier i did have it after we added vga=791 |
| 18:43 | <azeem> | pasquale: please let me know, we need some more hardware information |
| 18:43 | <Trollinator> | stew: What is this then: |
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| 18:43 | <Trollinator> | deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian sid main contrib |
| 18:43 | <Trollinator> | (from my sources.list). |
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| 18:44 | <azeem> | stew: he's on unstable |
| 18:44 | <pasquale> | azeem you want me to try again adding vga? |
| 18:44 | <azeem> | yeah |
| 18:44 | <pasquale> | alright |
| 18:44 | <eljefe> | Trollinator its not Lenny nor Squeeze, its Sid |
| 18:44 | <pasquale> | adding everything like earlier? ro nvidiafb.blacklist=yes rivafb.blacklist=yes vga=791 or only vga? |
| 18:44 | <stew> | Trollinator: 2.6.26 was removed from sid, it still exists in testing |
| 18:44 | <eljefe> | which is prone to occasionally breaking |
| 18:44 | <azeem> | pasquale: only vga |
| 18:44 | <pasquale> | oh ok, so ro vga=791 |
| 18:45 | <azeem> | eljefe: right, but Trollinator doesn't accept that |
| 18:45 | <eljefe> | Sid's kernel isn't 2.6.26 Trollinator |
| 18:45 | <enouf> | Trollinator: "How to build linux-kbuild-2.6 yourself" http://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage |
| 18:45 | <Trollinator> | stew: oh sorry, i didn't read properly. |
| 18:45 | <eljefe> | why is my reboot haning at Setting System Clock ?? |
| 18:45 | <Trollinator> | so i actually have to build my own kernel package? |
| 18:45 | <Trollinator> | what a PITA: |
| 18:46 | <stew> | Trollinator: perhaps you should run testing, not unstable |
| 18:46 | <azeem> | Trollinator: welcome to unstable world |
| 18:46 | <stew> | Trollinator: why do you need 2.6.28? |
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| 18:46 | <pasquale> | azeem it works when we add only vga |
| 18:46 | <Trollinator> | i don't, i just need the kernel headers in order to install the nvidia drivers. |
| 18:46 | <azeem> | pasquale: good |
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| 18:46 | <eljefe> | no. in /et/apt/sources.list change the word 'sid' to 'testing' . Then aptitude update, terminator |
| 18:46 | <eljefe> | Trollinator: ^^ |
| 18:46 | <azeem> | pasquale: do you have network on that notebook now? |
| 18:46 | <pasquale> | azeem though now i have to change it everytime or is there a script to save it that way |
| 18:46 | <Trollinator> | you're right, i could use the squeeze repository. |
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| 18:46 | <stew> | Trollinator: then you don't need to build your own kernel, you should be able to use 2.6.26 |
| 18:47 | <pasquale> | azeem this one im using now is a notebook |
| 18:47 | <pasquale> | and yea i do have net here |
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| 18:47 | <azeem> | pasquale: pastebin the content of /var/log/installer/hardware-summary of the notebook which did not boot earlier |
| 18:47 | <Trollinator> | yeah... still i don't understand why people upload packages that you can't possibly install. |
| 18:47 | <azeem> | if possible |
| 18:47 | <pasquale> | alright |
| 18:47 | <MikePer> | Hello. I got a problem using serial line to connect to another box, it works from a terminal though. It's a handshaking problem I think. Is there a more appropriate channel or can a kind soul here help me? |
| 18:47 | <eljefe> | Trollinator stop trolling. they can be installed. |
| 18:48 | <azeem> | pasquale: or if that easier; run apt-get install pastebinit; cat /var/log/installer/hardware-summary | pastebini |
| 18:48 | <azeem> | t |
| 18:48 | <pasquale> | azeem give me a while then i've to install xchat |
| 18:48 | <Trollinator> | eljefe: the .28 headers? |
| 18:48 | <Trollinator> | how so? |
| 18:48 | <enouf> | pasquale: see "/msg dpkg fbcon resolution" for a summary of how to keep those kernel options for all newly installed ones too |
| 18:48 | <azeem> | pasquale: just install pastebinit |
| 18:48 | <eljefe> | install the .28 kernel |
| 18:48 | <Trollinator> | kernel-image? done. |
| 18:48 | <enouf> | pasquale: take your time ... it's ok |
| 18:49 | <Trollinator> | can i use packages from experimental in testing? |
| 18:49 | <azeem> | Trollinator: you can, but you shouldn't |
| 18:49 | <stew> | eljefe: he's correct, the linux-headers-2.6.28-* packages are not installable in sid |
| 18:49 | <azeem> | Trollinator: this channel supports neither unstable nor experimental |
| 18:50 | <Trollinator> | then i can't switch to testing, since i want to run KDE 4. |
| 18:50 | <azeem> | Trollinator: just wait till KDE4 hits testing, like everybody else |
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| 18:50 | <eljefe> | Trollinator i apologize. |
| 18:50 | <stew> | is kde4 in unstable? |
| 18:51 | <Trollinator> | stew: no, in experimental. |
| 18:51 | <azeem> | no |
| 18:51 | <Trollinator> | azeem: It hasn't done that for more than i year, why should it do so in the near future? |
| 18:51 | <azeem> | Trollinator: cause lenny released |
| 18:51 | <Trollinator> | perhaps i should add that i want KDE 4.2 *now*. |
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| 18:51 | <azeem> | Trollinator: try Kubuntu |
| 18:51 | <stew> | Trollinator: becuase testing is no longer frozen |
| 18:51 | <Trollinator> | Lenny was released something like two weeks ago. |
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| 18:51 | <Trollinator> | still no KDE 4. |
| 18:51 | <stew> | right |
| 18:51 | <azeem> | Trollinator: please keep it on topic |
| 18:52 | <stew> | Trollinator: if you want to pitch in and help the kde team, they could probably use help |
| 18:52 | <enouf> | pasquale: for example, this is my line -> # kopt=root=/dev/hdd1 ro vga=791 acpi=force lapic <==yours will be customized to your needs - edit it, so it is, do not remove the one leading '#' though |
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| 18:53 | <stew> | Trollinator: but if you would expect testing to have kde after only existing for 2 weeks, then yes, debian is probably not for you, you might want to try kubuntu |
| 18:53 | <Trollinator> | stew: i don't mean to sound offending, but i certainly won't waste my time packaging software for debian. I'd rather switch to another distro that provides the software i want. |
| 18:53 | <azeem> | Trollinator: that's fine |
| 18:53 | <azeem> | Trollinator: just don't waste our support time either, pelase |
| 18:54 | <azeem> | please* |
| 18:54 | <pasquale> | azeem something strange happened, while i was going to install xchat everything freeze |
| 18:54 | <enouf> | azeem: do i understand correctly that blacklisting nvidiafb/rivafb on the kernel line was of no help, but only adding 'vga=791' (well, we also removed 'quiet' .. weird)? |
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| 18:55 | <Trollinator> | OK, thank you for your help and goodbye. |
| 18:55 | <azeem> | enouf: yeah I think so |
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| 18:55 | <pasquale> | azeem why do i've to add everytime vga=791 ? |
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| 18:55 | <enouf> | ok, thanks |
| 18:56 | <azeem> | pasquale: because it apparently makes your system boot |
| 18:56 | <enouf> | heh |
| 18:56 | <azeem> | pasquale: can you please install pastebinit? |
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| 18:56 | <azeem> | don't worry about xchat for now |
| 18:57 | <pasquale> | ok |
| 18:57 | <azeem> | pasquale: now run "pastebinit -i /var/log/installer/hardware-summary" |
| 18:57 | <azeem> | and tell us the output |
| 18:57 | <enouf> | stew: earlier today, i saw on #debian on freenode, someone just today managed to install sid from the lenny businesscard.iso, using expert naturally .. kernel and all -- IINM |
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| 18:58 | <enouf> | oh ... but still the -headers were/are the issue? my bad then |
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| 19:00 | <eljefe> | Can anyone assist me with installing fglrx? |
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| 19:01 | <pasquale2> | azeem, i did it |
| 19:01 | <pasquale2> | installed both |
| 19:01 | <azeem> | 00:56 < azeem> pasquale: now run "pastebinit -i /var/log/installer/hardware-summary" |
| 19:01 | <pasquale2> | ok, sorry the laptop is a bit far away from this one |
| 19:02 | <azeem> | no worry |
| 19:02 | <pasquale2> | azeem, http://pastebin.com/f27c99246 |
| 19:02 | <azeem> | perfect |
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| 19:02 | <azeem> | thanks |
| 19:03 | <pasquale2> | no problem |
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| 19:03 | <azeem> | pasquale2: now edit /boot/grub/menu.lst as root |
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| 19:03 | <azeem> | and add vga=791 to the line starting with "# kopt..." |
| 19:04 | <pasquale2> | azeem, how do I edit it? i dont remember anymore, i gotta study the commands |
| 19:05 | <azeem> | pasquale2: with nano, e.g. |
| 19:06 | <Steven_M> | does the version number of this package http://paste.interface.org.nz/9333 match the version that contains the fixes for Lenny mentioned in this Security Advisory http://debian.org/security/2009/dsa-1729 |
| 19:06 | <azeem> | or try "gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" |
| 19:07 | <pasquale2> | kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-686 root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet |
| 19:08 | <pasquale2> | add vga=791 to this one? |
| 19:08 | <azeem> | no |
| 19:08 | <azeem> | the the line starting with "# kopt" |
| 19:08 | <azeem> | Steven_M: look, why do you even case? |
| 19:09 | <azeem> | care* |
| 19:09 | <azeem> | Steven_M: are you running a Porn business with Gstreamer Fluendo streaming? |
| 19:09 | <pasquale2> | i guess # kopt=root=/dev/sda1 ro |
| 19:09 | <azeem> | that one, yes |
| 19:11 | <pasquale2> | azeem, done |
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| 19:12 | <azeem> | pasquale2: now run "update-grub" |
| 19:12 | <pasquale2> | done |
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| 19:12 | <pasquale2> | azeem, i guess now i don't have to add vga=791 all the time? |
| 19:13 | <azeem> | pasquale2: ok, check /boot/grub/menu.lst again and make sure the "kernel..." line now has the vga=791 at the end |
| 19:13 | <pasquale2> | ok |
| 19:13 | <pasquale2> | kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-686 root=/dev/sda1 ro vga=791 quiet |
| 19:14 | <azeem> | good |
| 19:14 | <azeem> | that should be enough |
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| 19:15 | <enouf> | pasquale2: can you please pastebin the output of files in /etc/moprobe.d/ ? especially ones that start with 'blacklist' (if some are huge, just tell me their names - use "ls -l /etc/modprobe.d/") |
| 19:15 | <azeem> | pasquale2: if you want, mail "516630-subscribe@bugs.debian.org" to get mails to that kernel bug and see when it gets fixed or a better work-around gets announced |
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| 19:15 | <azeem> | enouf: the pastebin has the module list |
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| 19:15 | <enouf> | pasquale2: follow azeem first - worry about me later |
| 19:15 | <azeem> | http://pastebin.com/f27c99246 |
| 19:15 | <azeem> | it's vesafb, built into the kernel apparently |
| 19:15 | <azeem> | but ok, maybe others are blacklisted, right |
| 19:16 | <pasquale2> | azeem, alright |
| 19:16 | <pasquale2> | enouf, sure |
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| 19:16 | <enouf> | azeem: well .. right, i'm looking for possible others that were blacklisted, and remain as such, but we are not aware of them ... |
| 19:17 | <azeem> | would be the standard set |
| 19:17 | <pasquale2> | uhm |
| 19:18 | <pasquale2> | /etc/moprobe.d/ ? |
| 19:18 | <pasquale2> | it says impossible to read |
| 19:18 | <pasquale2> | nvm |
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| 19:19 | <pasquale2> | enouf, http://pastebin.com/m4a850e43 |
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| 19:21 | <pasquale2> | azeem, i wish i came here earlier, i lost the entire afternoon/evening trying to make it work by reinstalling |
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| 19:22 | <azeem> | pasquale2: if the same thing happens 2 times, it's likely that it's not you which is the problem |
| 19:22 | <pasquale2> | azeem, i see, may i ask how come when i was selecting the packages to install it got stuck while downloading? |
| 19:22 | <azeem> | giaco: what does "ls -l /usr/lib/libGL.so.1" say? |
| 19:22 | <azeem> | eh, EWIN |
| 19:23 | <azeem> | pasquale2: I don't know :-/ |
| 19:23 | <azeem> | pasquale2: let's hope your system is more stable now |
| 19:23 | <enouf> | pasquale2: ok, thanks - just one more; "pastebinit -i /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist" |
| 19:23 | <pasquale2> | enouf, ok |
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| 19:23 | <pasquale2> | enouf, http://pastebin.com/f5a5d838a |
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| 19:24 | <enouf> | azeem: noticed this? /etc/modprobe.d/display_class i have that file too - not sure what it might be doing |
| 19:24 | <enouf> | pasquale2: thanks |
| 19:25 | <Steven_M> | azeem: no, but I thought if a bad website plays a mov file, I might be at risk. |
| 19:25 | <pasquale2> | enouf, you're welcome |
| 19:25 | <azeem> | enouf: yeah, but vesafb seems to be built-in |
| 19:25 | <pasquale2> | so i guess "everything" should work normally now? |
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| 19:27 | <azeem> | hopefully |
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| 19:27 | <pasquale2> | i see, thanks for everything :D |
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| 19:30 | <pasquale2> | azeem, shall i install amsn or mercury? |
| 19:30 | <azeem> | pasquale2: please ask the whole channel |
| 19:30 | <azeem> | I have absolutely no opinion on this question |
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| 19:30 | <pasquale2> | ok xd |
| 19:30 | <pasquale2> | shall i install amsn or mercury? |
| 19:30 | <azeem> | try both and keep what you like more |
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| 19:31 | <pasquale2> | ok |
| 19:31 | <Knorrie> | or use bitlbee, or start an IM-war |
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| 19:32 | <pasquale2> | i didnt know about bitlbee, it seems cool |
| 19:32 | <Knorrie> | it is |
| 19:33 | <Steven_M> | pasquale2: what wm do you use? |
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| 19:34 | <pasquale2> | gnome |
| 19:34 | <pasquale2> | Steven_M, gnome |
| 19:35 | <Steven_M> | pasquale2: then I recommend gaim, I think it does MSN |
| 19:35 | <Knorrie> | s/gaim/pidgin/ |
| 19:35 | <azeem> | ITYM pidgin |
| 19:35 | <pasquale2> | Steven_M, i see |
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| 19:38 | <pasquale2> | Steven_M, pidgin 2.0 |
| 19:38 | <pasquale2> | i see that it changed name |
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| 19:39 | <Steven_M> | pasquale2: oh ok, sorry for giving you the wrong name |
| 19:41 | <enouf> | azeem: yes, but i have older debian kernels here too - and going back all the way to 2.6.8 is where i see =m .. here's .16 /boot/config-2.6.16-2-686:CONFIG_FB_VESA=y (but as you and i know, there are all the other 'FB|CONSOLE|FRAME' config options that might be varied) |
| 19:42 | <pasquale2> | azeem, my system seems slow |
| 19:42 | <azeem> | pasquale2: don't ask individuals |
| 19:42 | <pasquale2> | i don't know if im just being paranoid or it's normal |
| 19:42 | <pasquale2> | ok sorry |
| 19:43 | <pasquale2> | it acts weird when i switch to different windows |
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| 19:44 | <enouf> | pasquale2: grep drv /var/log/Xorg.0.log <--pastebin |
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| 19:48 | <pasquale2> | enouf, http://pastebin.com/m1ded6b87 |
| 19:48 | <Steven_M> | is there a free alternative to flashplugin-nonfree |
| 19:48 | <Tekno> | swfdec, gnash... |
| 19:49 | <Steven_M> | Tekno: thanks :) |
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| 19:50 | <enouf> | pasquale2: and when you mean slow, you mean within X, yes? the 'nv_drv.so' is the X nvidia free 2d driver, and for newer nvidia cards, i suppose the proprietary one ("nvidia") might work better, even for 2d, but definitely needed for 3D |
| 19:51 | <Tekno> | where do I put keyboard binds for compiz |
| 19:51 | <pasquale2> | enouf, yes i meant that |
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| 19:52 | <enouf> | pasquale2: make sure top, or install htop, use 'ps aux' to see what's eating up RAM and/or CPU .. etc .. but as far as the 3D binary blob (nVidia proprietary driver) i really can't help, execpt to say ; /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 19:52 | <enouf> | s/make sure/make use of/ |
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| 19:53 | <pasquale2> | enouf, ok |
| 19:53 | <enouf> | pasquale2: also learn about 'xrandr' and 'man nv' (for the manpage) |
| 19:53 | <enouf> | pasquale2: you might be able to tweak it with certain options in xorg.conf |
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| 19:54 | <enouf> | pasquale2: man xorg.conf as well |
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| 19:55 | <enouf> | !+tell pasquale2 -about dual monitors |
| 19:55 | <dpkg> | told pasquale2 about dual monitors. |
| 19:55 | <enouf> | pasquale2: i on;y did that to pass you some URLs that have some info - also /msg dpkg laptop |
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| 19:56 | <pasquale2> | enkrypt, thanks |
| 19:56 | <pasquale2> | i meant enouf |
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| 19:57 | <enouf> | ;-) |
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| 19:57 | <Replica9000> | Hi |
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| 19:58 | <Replica9000> | I have a question about Sid, can I ask that here or do I have to go to #debian-offtopic? |
| 19:58 | <dondelelcaro> | Replica9000: you can ask here |
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| 19:59 | <Replica9000> | ok. My debian-amd64-netinst.iso no longer seems to work. Did the mirrors change? I noticed all the new netinst CDs are much bigger now |
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| 20:02 | < | `666_mason> this for ubuntu rite |
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| 20:03 | <dr|z3d> | !ubuntu |
| 20:03 | <dpkg> | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 20:07 | <Replica9000> | When I try to download the installer, it only gets to 22% and fails. |
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| 20:09 | <Ethaniel> | Hi everyone. |
| 20:10 | <adama> | I have a file on a usb pen drive (NTFS) that I cannot delete - it gives me an I/O error. How might I remove this? |
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| 20:10 | <enouf> | ntfs-3g+fuse? or .. is the drive locked? |
| 20:11 | <Ethaniel> | adama: Is formatting the drive an option? |
| 20:11 | <enouf> | adama: look at dmesg | tail perhaps |
| 20:11 | <enouf> | adama: is it a u3 device? |
| 20:11 | <adama> | /dev/sdb1 on /media/disk type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=512) |
| 20:12 | <adama> | no trouble reading/writing except this one file |
| 20:12 | <adama> | I don't want to format it |
| 20:12 | <adama> | what is u3? |
| 20:12 | <Replica9000> | do the older netinst CDs expire after some time? |
| 20:12 | <enouf> | 2048 blocksize |
| 20:12 | <adama> | I don't know |
| 20:12 | <enouf> | atleast the ISO part of it |
| 20:13 | <adama> | mount says 512 there |
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| 20:13 | <enouf> | adama: /msg dpkg u3 |
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| 20:13 | <enouf> | which file? |
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| 20:13 | <adama> | /media/disk/.Trash-1000/files/Look\ Around\ You/Series\ 2/Look\ Around\ You\ Series\ 2x06\ live.avi |
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| 20:13 | <adama> | ok no it is not u3 |
| 20:14 | <enouf> | adama: you can rw, and delete all other files, just not that one? |
| 20:14 | <adama> | correct |
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| 20:14 | <adama> | nothing in dmesg |
| 20:14 | <adama> | unlink: cannot unlink `/media/disk/.Trash-1000/files/Look Around You/Series 2/Look Around You Series 2x06 live.avi': Input/output error |
| 20:14 | <enouf> | I/O error ? hrm .. i it in use? |
| 20:14 | <enouf> | oh |
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| 20:15 | <enouf> | adama: that's a symlink it seems |
| 20:15 | <adama> | no that file has been there un-deletable for a long time |
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| 20:15 | <enouf> | adama: tried quoting it? try mv it elsewhere? to another dir/ ? maybe you need a fsck |
| 20:15 | <adama> | no I just used the unlink command |
| 20:16 | <enouf> | no, not unlink - use rm |
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| 20:16 | <adama> | ls: cannot access /media/disk/.Trash-1000/files/Look Around You/Series 2/Look Around You Series 2x06 live.avi: Input/output error |
| 20:16 | <adama> | total 0 |
| 20:16 | <adama> | -????????? ? ? ? ? ? Look Around You Series 2x06 live.avi |
| 20:16 | <Tekno> | are you using ext4 ? |
| 20:16 | <enouf> | there you go |
| 20:16 | <adama> | rm: cannot remove `/media/disk/.Trash-1000/files/Look Around You/Series 2/Look Around You Series 2x06 live.avi': Input/output error |
| 20:16 | <enouf> | see those ?????????? ? |
| 20:16 | <adama> | Tekno: it's NTFS |
| 20:17 | <adama> | enouf: yes |
| 20:17 | <Tekno> | okay |
| 20:17 | <enouf> | your mount options need ssome codepage= or iocharset= options |
| 20:17 | <webflex> | Hello people, I have one question: what file should I edit to configure the language of the keyboard when the system starts up, in this case on the login panel? |
| 20:17 | <enouf> | adama: can you chown , or chmod the file? |
| 20:17 | <adama> | enouf: what does those options mean? |
| 20:18 | <adama> | chmod: cannot access `/media/disk/.Trash-1000/files/Look Around You/Series 2/Look Around You Series 2x06 live.avi': Input/output error |
| 20:18 | <enouf> | adama: well, it's more smbmount related - but maybe you need f,d,umask options .. no idea with XPoop |
| 20:18 | <Tekno> | that same happened me with ext4 |
| 20:19 | <Tekno> | I just did formatting and reinstall :< |
| 20:19 | <enouf> | it appears, some weirdo perm issue incompatibility between unix perms and whatever xpoop uses |
| 20:19 | <adama> | enouf: I dunno about all that, like I said every other file is manipulate-able normally |
| 20:19 | <enouf> | adama: but none others show -???????? for perms |
| 20:19 | <adama> | what is xpoop? I'm just using cli |
| 20:19 | <enouf> | adama: stat the file |
| 20:20 | <adama> | stat: cannot stat `/media/disk/.Trash-1000/files/Look Around You/Series 2/Look Around You Series 2x06 live.avi': Input/output error |
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| 20:20 | <enouf> | adama: dude, sorry man, i have no experience with NTFS/XPoop/Redmond on linux |
| 20:20 | <Ethaniel> | I have a "Creative Dxr2" decoder board here, and I'm wondering if I can use this hardware under Debian for DVD playback. Any ideas? |
| 20:20 | <adama> | hmmm |
| 20:20 | <enouf> | i tried |
| 20:21 | <enouf> | adama: but i bet this-> is the issue -> <adama> -????????? ? ? ? ? ? Look Around You Series 2x06 live.avi |
| 20:21 | <webflex> | enouf Hi, can you help me? |
| 20:21 | <adama> | thanks :) oh well I'll just leave it, maybe do some fsck or try removing it from windows |
| 20:21 | <adama> | enouf: yes I have seen that before on drives that have an error and get remounted ro |
| 20:21 | <enouf> | webflex: i might be able to try |
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| 20:22 | <webflex> | did you see the answer? |
| 20:22 | <enouf> | adama: look into some unicode issues perhaps too |
| 20:22 | <adama> | ok thanks |
| 20:23 | <twb> | I want to forward syslog messages from nodes to a central log server, on an untrusted network. Where is a good reference on encrypted syslogging? |
| 20:23 | <adama> | webflex: what was your question? |
| 20:23 | <enouf> | adama: i also thought, at one time, i learned, you might get those ??????? from chmod -rxw=a filename or something - see, afaik, ntfs, doesn't have chattr, lsattr, , etc |
| 20:23 | <webflex> | Hello people, I have one question: what file should I edit to configure the language of the keyboard when the system starts up, in this case on the login panel? |
| 20:23 | <enouf> | webflex: gdm? |
| 20:23 | <webflex> | yes |
| 20:24 | <adama> | enouf: other files on the drive say drwxrwxrwx 1 root root |
| 20:24 | <twb> | webflex: to begin with, run "dpkg-reconfigure locales" to change the system-wide language. |
| 20:24 | <Replica9000> | webflix: you might want /etc/X11/xorg.conf - not totally sure |
| 20:24 | <enouf> | adama: looks normal ;-) |
| 20:24 | <webflex> | :) |
| 20:24 | <webflex> | just going to try |
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| 20:25 | <adama> | yeah, oh well I'll mess with it some but it's not a big deal, it is affecting how I have to trash/delete files on the drive |
| 20:26 | <webflex> | going to reboot to try it |
| 20:26 | <webflex> | brb |
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| 20:29 | <webflex> | back |
| 20:29 | <webflex> | in gdm its ok |
| 20:29 | <webflex> | but on the panel login it inst |
| 20:29 | <webflex> | isnt |
| 20:30 | <webflex> | I'm going to try the configuration on xorg |
| 20:32 | <webflex> | this changed when I installed the driver of nvidia |
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| 20:33 | <webflex> | twb, in xorg I don't have anything |
| 20:33 | <webflex> | for the language of the keyboard |
| 20:33 | <twb> | webflex: I didn't say anything about xorg. |
| 20:34 | <webflex> | sorry |
| 20:34 | <webflex> | it was Replica9000 |
| 20:34 | <webflex> | :P |
| 20:35 | <webflex> | twb, I configured locales ;) with my language |
| 20:35 | <webflex> | where can I find the nvidia-xconfig? |
| 20:35 | <Replica9000> | I was thinking he might be able to change the keyboard options under the InputDevice section of Xorg. I never tried it that way though |
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| 20:36 | <webflex> | Replica9000, only have this: |
| 20:36 | <webflex> | Section "InputDevice" |
| 20:36 | <webflex> | # generated from default |
| 20:36 | <webflex> | Identifier "Keyboard0" |
| 20:36 | <webflex> | Driver "kbd" |
| 20:36 | <webflex> | EndSection |
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| 20:37 | <webflex> | ups |
| 20:37 | <enouf> | webflex: all that does is add "nvidia" into Driver in xorg.conf |
| 20:38 | <webflex> | hm ok |
| 20:38 | <enouf> | now, nvidia-settings does more |
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| 20:38 | <webflex> | ok |
| 20:38 | <enouf> | you need nvidia-glx of some sirt for the userspace GL libs |
| 20:38 | <webflex> | I'm new at Linux and I'm loving it |
| 20:38 | <enouf> | s/sort* |
| 20:39 | <enouf> | webflex: the wiki talks all about all this |
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| 20:39 | <webflex> | ok enouf |
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| 20:41 | <enouf> | webflex: in xorg.conf; try Option "XkbLayout" "us,de" |
| 20:41 | <enouf> | for US and DE |
| 20:41 | <webflex> | Yes |
| 20:41 | <webflex> | that is what I'm doing |
| 20:41 | <webflex> | going to try now |
| 20:41 | <enouf> | and switch using Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle" |
| 20:41 | <webflex> | ok |
| 20:42 | <webflex> | brb |
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| 20:42 | <enouf> | webflex: you can also do it on the fly, using; "setxkbmap us" for X |
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| 20:44 | <webflex> | Hi |
| 20:44 | <webflex> | I'm back |
| 20:44 | <webflex> | and the problem is resolved |
| 20:45 | <webflex> | tks enouf and Replica9000 |
| 20:45 | <webflex> | now I'm going to test the wireless |
| 20:45 | <webflex> | xD |
| 20:46 | <webflex> | tks for the help |
| 20:46 | <webflex> | bbl |
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| 20:46 | <gsimmons> | Ethaniel: Now that's an old device. There used to be a project maintaining the GPL drivers released by Creative in 1999 (http://dxr2.sf.net/), but this hasn't been active since late 2006. AFAIK, there's no kernel 2.6 support. |
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| 21:01 | <heatmzzr> | anyone know how to change text color in terminal screen, i mean the ctrl-alt-f1 terminal screen???? |
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| 21:14 | <Ethaniel> | So, no support out of the box then. I'll just dump that board. Thanks anyway. |
| 21:14 | <Ethaniel> | A P3 600 should handle DVD decoding without it, I think. |
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| 21:22 | <Ethaniel> | The DXR3 looks more supported, too bad I don't have one of those... |
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| 21:39 | <Pasquale> | is that true that using dpkg command can "screw my comp up"? |
| 21:40 | <twb> | Pasquale: yes. |
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| 21:40 | <twb> | Pasquale: just about any command can. |
| 21:40 | <Pasquale> | twb, i see |
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| 21:40 | <Pasquale> | twb, i just wanted to install limewire, but i'm still a newbie, i was wondering how to install it then |
| 21:41 | <twb> | I recommend you use rtorrent or azureus instead. |
| 21:41 | <twb> | These packages are in Debian and you can use the normal package management tools. |
| 21:42 | <twb> | The problem with using "dpkg -i" yourself isn't so much that it's dpkg, but that you're installing packages that do not meet Debian's quality or legal standards. |
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| 21:42 | <twb> | For example, the unofficial webmin package has some three HUNDRED packaging bugs. |
| 21:43 | <pasquale> | twb, sorry but something weird happened and everything got stuck, this is the 2nd time already |
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| 21:43 | <pasquale> | i wonder why really, it's annoying |
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| 21:51 | <bilo> | olá |
| 21:51 | <bilo> | alguem fala portugues ai ? |
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| 21:52 | <dr|z3d> | !pt |
| 21:52 | <dpkg> | Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt ) |
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| 22:24 | <twb> | How do I find out the (default) value of APT:: config variables that are *NOT* set in apt.conf? |
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| 22:27 | <twb> | apt-config dump |
| 22:27 | <twb> | Thanks, RTFS! |
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| 22:31 | <enouf> | twb: maybe some more help? file:///usr/share/doc/apt/examples/configure-index.gz |
| 22:31 | <Guest667> | no se ni q hago aqui xd |
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| 22:32 | <twb> | enouf: no, I was specifically wanting to know about APT::Periodic, because /etc/cron.daily/apt is misleading -- it suggests the first value defaults to =1 not =0. |
| 22:32 | <enouf> | twb: i chmod -x /etc/cron.daily/* |
| 22:33 | <twb> | enouf: that's nice. |
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| 22:34 | <enouf> | well, that's what happens when you're unclear about your question |
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| 22:35 | <twb> | enouf: plonk |
| 22:36 | <enouf> | ok, welcome to the bozo box - enjoy your stay |
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| 22:47 | <Gun_Smoke> | what is the term I'm looking for.. I want to break the lines in mutt using vim down to 72 or something.. |
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| 22:49 | <amphi> | Gun_Smoke: tw |
| 22:50 | <Gun_Smoke> | tw? |
| 22:50 | <amphi> | set te=72 |
| 22:50 | <amphi> | er, set tw=72 |
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| 22:50 | <Gun_Smoke> | amphi, ah.. thanks!.. .muttrc or .vimrc ? |
| 22:50 | <amphi> | .vimrc |
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| 23:14 | <kel02> | ada yang dari bali |
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| 23:17 | <Supaplex> | !confuse kel02 |
| 23:17 | <dpkg> | Yes, what was your ferret today, kel02? wellies of the republic of swaziland with extra anchovies |
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| 23:23 | <kel08> | e |
| 23:23 | <kel08> | he |
| 23:23 | <kel08> | hohohoho |
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| 23:26 | <kel08> | heh |
| 23:26 | <kel08> | ghgsh |
| 23:27 | <kop> | I notice that grub's menu.lst says "if you are using dm raid then" do not specifiy "default saved". dm raid is what you get with mdadm, right? This only matters if your boot partition is raid, right? I'm running etch, does anything change with lenny? |
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| 23:33 | <anarcat> | hello |
| 23:33 | <Supaplex> | meow |
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| 23:34 | <anarcat> | does anyone know how i can find where on my keyboard i can find special character "°" (without having to type every possible combination...)? |
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| 23:37 | <chealer> | anarcat: what keyboard do you have? |
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| 23:43 | <lewis2> | command to reload virtusertable? |
| 23:44 | <Siniestro> | f*ck java |
| 23:44 | <twb> | kop: things that change in etch->lenny should be covered in the release notes. |
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