| --- | Log | opened Wed Feb 25 00:00:00 2009 |
| --- | Day | changed Wed Feb 25 2009 |
| 00:00 | <dr|z3d> | twb: Remember, XaraLX (in it's previous incarnation) pre-dated open source by a number of years :) |
| 00:00 | <twb> | dr|z3d: um, free software existed (though not by that name) before proprietary software did. |
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| 00:01 | <chealer> | if I have a dot file in skolo/compilation/test.dot shouldn't $ dotty skolo/compilation/test.dot; open it? I get "dotty.lefty: cannot open file: skolo/compilation/test.dot\ndotty.lefty: cannot load graph" |
| 00:01 | <dr|z3d> | twb: Free != open source, as well you know :) |
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| 00:01 | <chealer> | kop: yeah. that's what I want to avoid. |
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| 00:05 | <chealer> | I get this if I try to load the file after opening dotty : "graph parser: syntax error near line 1\ncontext: igraph >>> { <<< node [shape=plaintext]; edge [arrowhead=none]; s1 -> p1; s1 -> s2; s1 -> p2; s1 -> s3; s3 -> p3; s3 -> s4; s3 -> p4; s1[label=S]; s1[label=S];}" |
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| 00:05 | <chealer> | the file contains "digraph { node [shape=plaintext]; edge [arrowhead=none]; s1 -> p1; s1 -> s2; s1 -> p2; s1 -> s3; s3 -> p3; s3 -> s4; s3 -> p4; s1[label=S]; s1[label=S];}" |
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| 00:13 | <kop> | chealer : I'm cluless, but have thoughts. Try running the line over mutiple lines just to see if you don't get a better message. |
| 00:14 | <kop> | chealer : Also, apparently you can use -- instead of -> along with graph instead of digraph to get undirected graphs. But then you can't use dot you need to use neato. (I've no idea if this makes sense given what you're doing.) |
| 00:17 | <chealer> | kop: if I split it, I get "graph parser: syntax error near line 1\ncontext: igraph >>> { <<<" |
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| 00:18 | <chealer> | kop: yes, but there is a parent -> child relationship. I need graphviz to understand it's a tree. so I'm not sure that -- would improve, now that I found edge [arrowhead=none] |
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| 00:19 | <kop> | chealer : Probably would not be an improvement. |
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| 00:21 | <kop> | chealer : Ending lines in \ lets them continue to the next line. |
| 00:21 | <kop> | chealer : Dunno if that helps the error message. |
| 00:23 | <chealer> | kop: I don't see what you mean. the current file is http://ido.ath.cx/test.dot how would you change it? |
| 00:24 | <kop> | chealer : I'm looking at http://www.graphviz.org/doc/info/lang.html. I think you can at least put a newline before the "edge" keyword. I'll look at the paste. |
| 00:25 | <chealer> | yes, I did that |
| 00:25 | <kop> | chealer : Your paste works for me. |
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| 00:26 | <chealer> | kop: you can open it with dotty? |
| 00:26 | <kop> | chealer : I fed it to dot. |
| 00:26 | <chealer> | kop: yes, I can feed it to dot, but I can't open it with dotty |
| 00:27 | <kop> | chealer : Do you have to feed the output of dot to dotty? |
| 00:27 | <chealer> | kop: no, I wanted to edit the graph with dotty |
| 00:27 | <chealer> | before feeding it to dot |
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| 00:28 | <kop> | chealer : I'm afraid I'm causing more trouble than good. |
| 00:28 | <wb> | i can't show chinese who can help me |
| 00:28 | <kop> | !tell wb -about cn |
| 00:28 | <kop> | !tell wb -about ask |
| 00:28 | <wb> | thanks |
| 00:29 | <wb> | ... |
| 00:29 | <wb> | kop :( |
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| 00:30 | <chealer> | kop: don't worry, fair try |
| 00:32 | <wb> | -_-`thank you ,kop i knew |
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| 00:44 | <chealer> | twb: thank you, it was easier than I thought. if you ever have to derivate "(()(()))()" from "S -> (S)S, S -> lambda", the secret is http://ido.ath.cx/tmp.png |
| 00:44 | <twb> | chealer: cool |
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| 00:52 | <tiga1> | Somebody need help |
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| 00:54 | <kingsley> | How do you copy text from a file displayed by Adobe reader, and paste it into an xterm or vim? |
| 00:55 | <tiga1> | Sorry for my bad English. After installing ATI drivers on Debian Lenny Official AMD64 (repository: non-free) I get white screen with black square at right. Or many colours lines with big square cursor |
| 00:56 | <tiga1> | When i press ctrl alt f1-f5 my system reboot |
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| 00:57 | <tiga1> | My video ATI HD3200 (780G chipset motherboard) |
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| 01:07 | <andol> | anyone work with pdfs much? some pdf files i've seen allow you to view the pages as though it's all on one long scroll. other documents only allow the user to view the content one page at a time. anyone know what this difference in format is? |
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| 01:10 | <figurate> | andol: I believe its the software, for me kpdf works well |
| 01:10 | <dr|z3d> | andol: That's up to the application, often. |
| 01:10 | <andol> | nm. in reader: View>Page Display |
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| 01:10 | <enouf> | Continuous page |
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| 01:15 | <figurate> | With firefox 3 rather than IceWeasel, can I get that from unstable or do I have to download directly from Mozilla |
| 01:15 | <jm_> | no |
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| 01:46 | <liangsong> | anybody chinese?? |
| 01:47 | <jm_> | !tell liangsong -about cn |
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| 01:50 | <liangsong> | say something |
| 01:50 | <liangsong> | come on,, |
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| 02:06 | <hhf3498> | hi, all |
| 02:06 | <lachlan> | Hello. If I were looking to hack together some sort of (easily reproducible) customised installation, would the way to go be to just install stable and make a package with everything that I want as a prereq? |
| 02:07 | <lachlan> | Including whatever customised scripts or whatever I need. |
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| 02:31 | <Zoup> | im looking for kernel boot parameter to disable usb mass storage, any idea ? |
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| 02:44 | <constant> | hallo |
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| 02:48 | <padma> | thumbnails are broken after I upgrade machine |
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| 03:02 | <padma> | Image thumbnails are broken after I upgrade machine |
| 03:02 | <padma> | Can anybody having idea |
| 03:02 | <padma> | why it is so? |
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| 03:04 | <enouf> | padma: using gnome? |
| 03:05 | <padma> | yes |
| 03:05 | <padma> | enouf, yes I am using gnome |
| 03:05 | <enouf> | padma: maybe something in gconf-editor got set bad, or something within anyone of your ~/.gnome-related-dotfiles-or-dotdirs |
| 03:05 | <goodxandros> | hahaha i do an upgrade and i crash sometimes |
| 03:06 | <goodxandros> | this linux sucks ass thoe |
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| 03:06 | <enouf> | padma: i'm not sure if linux uses a thumbs.db named file or whatever |
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| 03:07 | <enouf> | padma: you could run updatedb ; then locate -i thumbs (then try thumbs.db if too many hits) |
| 03:07 | <padma> | so wht should I do resolve ? there is no thumbs.db file |
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| 03:07 | <goodxandros> | i thought everything was a file in linux even hardware |
| 03:07 | <enouf> | although, you cuold also search in /home/username using find |
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| 03:08 | <enouf> | cd ~ ; find . -iname '*thumbs*' |
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| 03:08 | <enouf> | maybe a Nautilus thing? |
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| 03:08 | <padma> | might be |
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| 03:09 | <valdyn> | padma: broken in what way? |
| 03:10 | <padma> | I coudn't see any image thumbnails ,n on right click I coudn't open image file |
| 03:10 | <valdyn> | padma: what happens when you run aptitude -s install gnome ? |
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| 03:11 | <russ> | Lenny Rocks |
| 03:11 | <enouf> | padma: can you tell us exact error messages when that happens? |
| 03:12 | <padma> | valdyn, It is asking for Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] |
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| 03:12 | <padma> | should I go for Y |
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| 03:12 | <valdyn> | padma: *which* solution |
| 03:12 | <valdyn> | padma: it doesnt matter, -s means 'simluation only' |
| 03:13 | <padma> | ok |
| 03:13 | <padma> | but after aptitude -s install gnome nothin change |
| 03:13 | <padma> | still same issue |
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| 03:14 | <valdyn> | padma: didnt i just say that -s means "simulation only" |
| 03:14 | <jm_> | haha |
| 03:14 | <enouf> | padma: specifics are key -- use a pastebin |
| 03:14 | <valdyn> | padma: and please tell us *which* solution |
| 03:14 | <russ> | is there a room for casual conversation about Debian and general Linux? |
| 03:14 | <valdyn> | russ: #debian-offtopic |
| 03:14 | <russ> | thanks |
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| 03:15 | <padma> | valdyn, http://pastebin.com/m60258807 |
| 03:17 | <valdyn> | padma: ok, thats not going to help you, so you dont need to install that stuff |
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| 03:18 | <valdyn> | padma: which type of images cant you open? |
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| 03:22 | <gkm> | Does anyone here know how to install Grub to the MBR from a live disc? |
| 03:22 | <gkm> | Don't bother telling me to google it |
| 03:22 | <gkm> | Nothing helpful comes up\ |
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| 03:22 | <jm_> | !fixmbr |
| 03:22 | <dpkg> | To reinstall boot loader simply boot to your Debian install disk or whatever else you have, switch to the other console (alt-f2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ), then chroot into it (chroot /target) then run "mount /proc ; grub-install /dev/hda && update-grub" Also ask me about <dual boot guide>. |
| 03:23 | <jm_> | but no, not anyone knows |
| 03:23 | <gkm> | Which root file system? |
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| 03:23 | <gkm> | I recently had to reinstall windows on a separate partition, and it overwrote the MBR |
| 03:23 | <jm_> | you have more than one? |
| 03:23 | <Supaplex> | that's a feature |
| 03:24 | <gkm> | Yes |
| 03:24 | <gkm> | My first partition is root |
| 03:24 | <gkm> | Second is /home |
| 03:24 | <gkm> | Third is that.... |
| 03:24 | <jm_> | so you only have *one* |
| 03:24 | <gkm> | Third is swap |
| 03:24 | <gkm> | Fourth is Windows |
| 03:24 | <gkm> | Where on the disc is the MBR? |
| 03:25 | <padma> | valdyn, every type of image (png,gif,jpg) |
| 03:25 | <jm_> | first sector |
| 03:25 | <gkm> | So then I should be doing this with /dev/sda1 |
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| 03:26 | <valdyn> | gkm: sda1 is not a disk |
| 03:26 | <jm_> | he's asking about mount |
| 03:26 | <gkm> | Look, I'm frustrated to the point of self cannibalism |
| 03:26 | <valdyn> | i think hes asking where to install grub |
| 03:27 | <gkm> | It's supposed to be in the MBR |
| 03:27 | <gkm> | That the Windows installation wrote over |
| 03:27 | <jm_> | if "doing this" is about grub-install then using /dev/sda1 will not do much good as valdyn pointed out |
| 03:28 | <valdyn> | gkm: mount /dev/sda1, mount --bind /proc /path/to/mountpoint/proc, chroot /path/to/mountpoint, grub-install /dev/sda |
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| 03:28 | <valdyn> | oh nm, the factoid sais it all |
| 03:29 | <jm_> | pretty much yes |
| 03:29 | <gkm> | In ways that are very confusing to me, yes |
| 03:29 | <jm_> | maybe get an imac instead |
| 03:29 | <valdyn> | gkm: you need to figure out what you dont understand and ask us |
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| 03:30 | <gkm> | First of all, this mount point business would be nice |
| 03:30 | <gkm> | Just mount it on /mnt? |
| 03:30 | <valdyn> | gkm: a mount point is a directory where a filesystem is mounted |
| 03:30 | <gkm> | I know that |
| 03:30 | <valdyn> | gkm: /mnt/ is as good as anything |
| 03:30 | <gkm> | Okay |
| 03:31 | <valdyn> | i just noticed that /dev/.static is gone |
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| 03:31 | <gkm> | I can't mount /proc to /mnt/proc |
| 03:32 | <gkm> | And it won't let me make the directory |
| 03:32 | <jm_> | it says to mount proc in chroot |
| 03:32 | <valdyn> | gkm: you can do all that |
| 03:32 | <valdyn> | gkm: but we cant help you if you dont give us the actual error |
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| 03:32 | <gkm> | mount point /mnt/proc does not exist |
| 03:32 | <gkm> | Then when I try to make the mount point |
| 03:33 | <valdyn> | gkm: that implies that you did not mount sda1 in /mnt/ yet |
| 03:33 | <gkm> | yes I did |
| 03:33 | <valdyn> | gkm: or that your command was wrong |
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| 03:33 | <jbu311> | !cloak |
| 03:33 | <dpkg> | it has been said that cloak is a disguise for your IP address over the IRC network. or, what James Bond do, using his DB9 to make an impression on girls. |
| 03:33 | <gkm> | it's denied my permission when I go to /mnt to check |
| 03:34 | <valdyn> | gkm: lets clear that once and for all: you keep confusing us by not pasting the actual error messages |
| 03:34 | <gkm> | I can't paste |
| 03:34 | <valdyn> | gkm: and im not going to assisnt if you dont do that |
| 03:34 | <gkm> | I'm chatting from my laptop |
| 03:34 | <gkm> | And I'm doing this on my desktop |
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| 03:35 | <gkm> | i just checked /mnt |
| 03:35 | <gkm> | It's my windows partition |
| 03:35 | <gkm> | What the hell |
| 03:35 | <gkm> | Oh, I see |
| 03:35 | <gkm> | somehow my root partition got moved to sda2 |
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| 03:38 | <gkm> | Look, I'm doing the best I can to give you the information you need to help me |
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| 03:39 | <valdyn> | gkm: alright |
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| 03:40 | <gkm> | it's okay now, I have someone on another channel helping me |
| 03:40 | <gkm> | Thanks, though |
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| 03:47 | <zz> | Åñòü ðóññêèå? |
| 03:47 | <zz> | hi-all |
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| 03:48 | <figurate> | how can i get Firefox in lenny |
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| 03:49 | <esssssssssssssior> | apt-get install firefox |
| 03:49 | <esssssssssssssior> | maybe_) |
| 03:49 | <goodxandros> | ya |
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| 03:50 | <goodxandros> | hey i should just run bitch x in here |
| 03:50 | <goodxandros> | this client is cool i guess thoe |
| 03:50 | <Supaplex> | !start an irc client war |
| 03:50 | <dpkg> | pirch is eleet |
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| 03:51 | <goodxandros> | yeah so ive been hearing |
| 03:51 | <esssssssssssssior> | Ñîâñåì ðóññêèõ íåò? |
| 03:52 | <esssssssssssssior> | This is only english channel? |
| 03:52 | <Supaplex> | yes |
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| 03:52 | <esssssssssssssior> | bad |
| 03:52 | <goodxandros> | hahaha |
| 03:52 | <ikonia> | what an interesting nick |
| 03:53 | <Supaplex> | we may have a non english channel, if we know what language you'd rather use |
| 03:53 | <Supaplex> | !nickometer esssssssssssssior |
| 03:53 | <dpkg> | 'esssssssssssssior' is 0.000% lame, supaplex |
| 03:53 | <Supaplex> | awww. it's atleast 10% lame. |
| 03:53 | <Supaplex> | at least there are no symbols. =) |
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| 03:54 | <stevecotton> | !ru |
| 03:54 | <dpkg> | Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net |
| 03:54 | <esssssssssssssior> | ths dpkg |
| 03:54 | <goodxandros> | that a bot |
| 03:54 | <goodxandros> | esssssssssssssior: |
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| 03:55 | <esssssssssssssior> | ok)) |
| 03:55 | <goodxandros> | thats a bot esssssssssssssior |
| 03:55 | <Supaplex> | !bot |
| 03:55 | <dpkg> | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 03:55 | <goodxandros> | lol |
| 03:55 | <stevecotton> | dpkg's a great bot |
| 03:55 | <goodxandros> | sure is |
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| 04:28 | <gino> | hello |
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| 04:28 | <jlj> | is there any way to make udev rules based on uuid's ? |
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| 04:29 | <gino> | fb 1200x768 |
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| 04:29 | <gino> | how to change resolution in command line ? please |
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| 04:31 | <jm_> | gino: xrandr |
| 04:31 | <gino> | ok thanks |
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| 04:34 | <gino> | # xrandr --fb 1200x768 |
| 04:34 | <gino> | xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 800x600 (desired size 1200x768) |
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| 04:35 | <jm_> | look in X logfile to see what driver thinks about your monitor/modelines |
| 04:36 | <jm_> | you can also ask xrandr to list supported modes |
| 04:36 | <jm_> | just run it without parameters |
| 04:36 | <pingouin_> | about that, what tools allow me to create modelines that i can add to my xorg.conf, for xxxx X xxxx resolution @ vhz refresh i want ? |
| 04:37 | <jm_> | videogen |
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| 04:37 | <pingouin_> | jm_: nice thank you very much |
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| 04:38 | <jm_> | jlj: uuid-s for what? |
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| 04:40 | <jlj> | jm_: Partitions on a usb drive |
| 04:42 | <jm_> | jlj: I don't think that is exported in /sys as an attribute |
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| 04:43 | <koollman> | jlj: I think it's possible, yes. (just like any other uuid-rules) |
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| 04:43 | <Tekno> | Hi |
| 04:44 | <Tekno> | How to get xvidtune working ? |
| 04:44 | <jm_> | Tekno: you run it |
| 04:45 | <Tekno> | "sorry, you have requested modeline that is not possible or not supported by your hardware configuration" |
| 04:45 | <jm_> | jlj: but you will find it in /dev/disk/... once it has been scanned |
| 04:45 | <Tekno> | I cant really change modeline with it |
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| 04:45 | <jm_> | but X server works fine with it? |
| 04:46 | <Tekno> | yea it starts |
| 04:46 | <Tekno> | but cant change mode |
| 04:46 | <jm_> | try xvidtune -show |
| 04:46 | <jm_> | you can change modes with xrandr |
| 04:46 | <Tekno> | yea but I have to find out correct mdoeline |
| 04:46 | <jlj> | jm/koollman: do you know the syntax of how to access/use an uuid within a udev rule? |
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| 04:46 | <Morgoth> | HI YOU BLOODFUCKED BITCHES! I SLAUGHT YOUR FAMILYS AND DESTROY ANYTHING! |
| 04:46 | <Morgoth> | DIE DIE DIE!!!! |
| 04:47 | <jlj> | wat |
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| 04:47 | <Tekno> | xvidtune -show has wrong output |
| 04:47 | <Morgoth> | ach vergiss es du bitch |
| 04:47 | <Morgoth> | oh no |
| 04:47 | <Morgoth> | something wrong |
| 04:47 | <Morgoth> | something in my system! |
| 04:47 | -!- | elsimio [~elsimio@sake.talibanes-del.sl] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] |
| 04:48 | <Morgoth> | AND NOW I SLAUGHTERED EVERY OF YOUR LOWER LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 04:48 | <Morgoth> | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 04:48 | <Morgoth> | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 04:48 | <Morgoth> | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 04:48 | <Morgoth> | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 04:48 | <Morgoth> | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 04:48 | <jm_> | self fail, lovely |
| 04:48 | <jlj> | phew |
| 04:48 | <Tekno> | so |
| 04:49 | <Tekno> | how can I change modeline with xvidtune |
| 04:49 | <Tekno> | "sorry, you have requested modeline that is not possible or not supported by your hardware configuration" |
| 04:50 | <themill> | Are we allowed to correct the troll's grammar? |
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| 04:51 | <simonrvn> | using konversation no less. |
| 04:51 | <jlj> | he slaughtered my 'lower' :( |
| 04:51 | <simonrvn> | MotD |
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| 04:51 | <Tekno> | humm |
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| 04:51 | <simonrvn> | he's back |
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| 04:52 | <simonrvn> | themill: that would be too cruel :P |
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| 04:52 | <themill> | simonrvn: fortunately the hostmask is +q :) |
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| 04:52 | <simonrvn> | indeed ;) |
| 04:52 | <simonrvn> | oh my |
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| 04:53 | * | simonrvn gets out the popcorn |
| 04:53 | <themill> | points for persistence |
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| 04:55 | <simonrvn> | hehehe |
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| 04:56 | <simonrvn> | aw. looks like he gave up. |
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| 04:57 | <keith> | Debian 4 How do I make a .deb file from a tarball? |
| 04:57 | <simonrvn> | !nmg |
| 04:57 | <dpkg> | well, nmg is Debian New Maintainers' Guide, Debian Policy Manual and Debian Developer's Reference are the documents you need to read, in that order, to make packages for the Debian project. http://www.debian.org/devel/ or ask me about <package basics>, <mentors> and <mg> |
| 04:57 | <simonrvn> | start reading ;) |
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| 05:01 | <Tekno> | Anyone had success with xvidtune ? |
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| 05:01 | <Tekno> | I need to fiddle with modeline numbers |
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| 05:01 | <Tekno> | Xvidtune complains: "sorry, you have requested modeline that is not possible or not supported by your hardware configuration" |
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| 06:04 | <wb> | i use lenny i want install perl modules *.pm and how can i install it? |
| 06:04 | <themill> | wb: which one? |
| 06:04 | <wb> | net::telnet |
| 06:05 | <jm_> | apt-cache search net::telnet |
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| 06:05 | <themill> | or apt-file search Net/Telnet.pm |
| 06:05 | <wb> | oh thanks i try it |
| 06:06 | <themill> | wb: as a general rule, perl modules are named libmodule-name-parts-perl, so libnet-telnet-perl. But Telnet.pm might be within another module so you need to look around a bit sometimes. |
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| 06:07 | <Tekno> | how to make debian boot so damn fast |
| 06:07 | <themill> | Booting implies rebooting. I rarely reboot so it's a non-issue. |
| 06:07 | <wb> | thank you so much i can't by word :) |
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| 06:07 | <jm_> | Tekno: uses s2disk |
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| 06:08 | <Tekno> | jm_: its not good with slow hdd |
| 06:08 | <jm_> | Tekno: like 5MB/s or what? |
| 06:09 | <Tekno> | 8MB/s write |
| 06:10 | <jm_> | then readahead might help |
| 06:11 | <sunoano> | anyone know a paste bin where pastes do not expire as quickly as after 24 hours? |
| 06:12 | <wb> | i already has the perl modules (*.pm) and how can i install it |
| 06:13 | <jm_> | don't, use debian packages |
| 06:14 | <wb> | can you help me? |
| 06:15 | <jm_> | based on quality of your qustions - no |
| 06:15 | <djc> | sunoano, you can select with pastebin.com |
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| 06:17 | <sunoano> | djc: yes, thank you |
| 06:18 | <djc> | hrm.. apparently gcc isnt installed by default.. |
| 06:19 | <djc> | er |
| 06:19 | <djc> | wtf |
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| 06:20 | <enouf> | djc: even etch didn't have it via default |
| 06:20 | <enouf> | install build-essential |
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| 06:21 | <wb> | i already has the perl modules (*.pm) and how can i install it |
| 06:21 | <djc> | well I just installed gcc itself via synaptic.. but that might be simpler |
| 06:21 | <petemc> | djc: why would it be installed by default? |
| 06:21 | <djc> | wb, dont install them that way, install them using dpkg/apt |
| 06:22 | <djc> | petemc, guess it just 'feels' like something that should be there, but I guess not |
| 06:22 | <djc> | wb, or synaptic |
| 06:22 | <wb> | i have the modules if i can just copy it to somewhere |
| 06:22 | <djc> | wb *dont* install them that way, install via apt/dpkg/synaptic |
| 06:23 | <djc> | you want .deb's not .pm's |
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| 06:23 | <wb> | oh |
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| 06:24 | <djc> | go into aptitude, or synaptic, and 'search' for the modules you need |
| 06:24 | <djc> | you need them to support some other app you want to install? |
| 06:24 | <djc> | or you are writing perl code yourself? |
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| 06:24 | <djc> | if its for some other app, try searching for and installing *that* via aptitude, and if its there, it will automatically install any perlmods it requires |
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| 06:25 | <djc> | (or synaptic, or apt-get, etc) |
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| 06:25 | <djc> | all different interfaces to the same system |
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| 06:50 | <civico> | hola |
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| 07:00 | <Tengu_> | hi. how can I add bnx2 firmware in lenny netinstall images ? |
| 07:00 | <Tengu_> | as you removed them.......... |
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| 07:02 | <Tengu_> | I did a script, it worked some months ago.... but now, it doesn't work anymore. |
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| 07:25 | <dolly> | hi |
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| 07:25 | <dolly> | i m having a dell system with ubuntu |
| 07:26 | <dolly> | i wanna install wireless on that so plz help me |
| 07:26 | <dolly> | r u there |
| 07:26 | <petemc> | ask #ubuntu on freenode |
| 07:26 | <petemc> | this is #debian |
| 07:27 | <dolly> | plz help me |
| 07:27 | <dolly> | i wanna install wireless on that so plz help me |
| 07:27 | <petemc> | read what i wrote |
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| 07:27 | <dolly> | ok |
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| 07:28 | <plsd> | Can the package reportbug also be used for usability "bugs"? I want to report one in reportbug. |
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| 07:32 | <sebastien> | Bonjour tout le monde!!! |
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| 07:33 | <nikkne_> | hi, I need to build my own kernel on debian, which needs to support xen |
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| 07:33 | <petemc> | debian has prebuilt xen kernels |
| 07:33 | <nikkne_> | but I don't understand how to use make-kpkg to apply debian patches |
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| 07:33 | <nikkne_> | I know |
| 07:33 | <nikkne_> | but I need additional set of patches to it |
| 07:34 | <nikkne_> | so I took linux-image-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64, applied my patches to the kernel tree |
| 07:34 | <nikkne_> | and I want to build xen kernel package |
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| 07:37 | <nikkne_> | so, how can I build that kernel, with featureset xen? |
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| 07:52 | <tuxcrafter> | hi all, openoffice 3 in sid does not print C5 envolopes anymore, it only wants to do A4 paper, i have tried all kinds of envolops size |
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| 07:55 | <tuxcrafter> | and i tried both the gtk printer frontend from pdf and the internal openoffice print system |
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| 07:55 | <tuxcrafter> | both do not print c5 |
| 07:56 | <enouf> | nikkne_: so what's the issue? make oldconfig ; make menuconfig |
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| 07:56 | <enouf> | nikkne_: or ... you might need to define SUBARCH=Xen or something |
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| 07:56 | <centu94> | ciao |
| 07:57 | <enouf> | aloha |
| 07:57 | <centu94> | !list |
| 07:57 | <dpkg> | one warez list being sent to centu94 |
| 07:57 | <enouf> | beunvenute (or someshit) |
| 07:57 | <enouf> | Buon giorno |
| 07:58 | <enouf> | wow - (has two cigarettes going at once .. heh) |
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| 08:09 | <subchee> | hello everybody |
| 08:09 | <debacle> | Hi all, i need help or suggestions. I've to deleve a Linux box to a customer. I'd like to use a crypted filesystem to avoid unautorized backup. The problem is that i do not want to leve the password on the disk. Is there a way to tell my kernel to boot only if ethernet MAC address is "xx:XX:xx:..." and cpu serial is "xxxxx" and is possible to store the filesystem password in the kernel ?? |
| 08:09 | <goodxandros> | lo subchee |
| 08:09 | <subchee> | can anybody help me in Icecast2 install, please? |
| 08:09 | <goodxandros> | lod |
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| 08:10 | <goodxandros> | lo debacle |
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| 08:11 | <Tengu_> | hmmm.... anyone using linux-image-2.6.26-1-openvz-amd64 ? |
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| 08:13 | <Tekno> | is there program like Maximus to debian? |
| 08:13 | <Tekno> | (maximizes windows) |
| 08:13 | <jm_> | window managers can do that |
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| 08:14 | <Tekno> | Im using openbox |
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| 08:14 | <Tekno> | So how do I enable it? |
| 08:14 | <jm_> | and it doesn't have maximize option? I find that unlikely |
| 08:15 | <Tekno> | ... |
| 08:15 | <Tengu_> | :D |
| 08:15 | <Tekno> | I mean automatical maximizing of every window |
| 08:15 | <subchee> | nobody can help me in Icecast2? :'( |
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| 08:16 | <jm_> | ahh xwit can help you with that |
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| 08:18 | <Tekno> | ehhmm |
| 08:18 | <subchee> | xwit? who is he/she? :) |
| 08:18 | <Tekno> | I think thats not what Im looking for |
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| 08:19 | <Tekno> | or how can I use it as "daemon" which maximizes every application or window |
| 08:20 | <jm_> | that's better solved with wm-s like sawfish that allow scripting |
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| 08:22 | <Lenhix> | Tekno: I don't know how to do that with Openbox, but I know that's possible with KDE |
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| 08:28 | <tuxcrafter> | hmm my HP_Color_LaserJet_8500_PS does not print a3 or c5 anymore under sid |
| 08:28 | <Lenhix> | Tekno: Try looking in the depths of Openbox's control panel |
| 08:28 | <Tengu_> | nobody using linux-image-2.6.26-1-openvz-amd64 ? |
| 08:28 | <tuxcrafter> | how sould i start debugging this |
| 08:28 | <Tengu_> | seems to have some bugs... and cannot boot on a dell poweredge server... |
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| 08:40 | <stuckey> | Hello... Does anyone here know how I can edit my grub entries? (e.g., change the order and descriptions in the list shown at boot) |
| 08:40 | <dr|z3d> | stuckey: apt-get install startupmanager |
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| 08:40 | <dr|z3d> | That you'll find is the easiest method. |
| 08:41 | <stuckey> | dr|z3d: What about the "grub" program, and the "grub-set-default" program? |
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| 08:41 | <dr|z3d> | stuckey: Forget those, startupmanager gives you that and a lot more. |
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| 08:42 | <dr|z3d> | stuckey: Want to change the res you boot up in? No problem with startupmanager.. change the max number of entries in the grub menu? No problem. Select default kernel.. ditto.. |
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| 08:45 | <jm_> | stuckey: you can write hook scripts for update-grub |
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| 08:53 | <ncfi1013> | i have the hardware drivers manager open. there are listed 3 nvidia drivers - 96, 173, 177 - can anybody tell me which one to activate because it is giving me that option |
| 08:54 | <zumbi> | lspci -v | grep VGA |
| 08:55 | <Tengu_> | take the latest one... |
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| 08:56 | <constant> | if sane-find.scanner get found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8, product=0x0849) at libusb:001:007 |
| 08:56 | <constant> | found USB scanner (vendor=0x10fd, product=0x8050) at libusb:001:003 |
| 08:56 | <constant> | what should i doing next? |
| 08:57 | <ncfi1013> | is that to me tengu |
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| 08:58 | <ncfi1013> | will it screw anything up if i choose the latest one when i have an old graphics card...nvidia 6800 i think |
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| 08:59 | <Tengu_> | shouldn't screw anything.. |
| 08:59 | <ncfi1013> | just go ahead and activate it and then restart or not tengu_ |
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| 09:01 | <Tengu_> | ncfi1013: right :-> |
| 09:02 | <ncfi1013> | thanks tengu_ |
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| 09:11 | <johnfg> | hi guys |
| 09:12 | <johnfg> | I just installed and manually started ntp on the official release of lenny. |
| 09:12 | <Tekno> | ok |
| 09:12 | <johnfg> | Will I still need to do an update-rc.d ntp start 99 2 3 4 5 . stop 0 1 6 |
| 09:12 | <Lenhix> | How do I modify a symlink to point to another file? |
| 09:13 | <Tekno> | propably not |
| 09:13 | <Lenhix> | johnfg: try rcconf |
| 09:13 | <Tekno> | sysv-rc-conf is a friend |
| 09:13 | <petemc> | Lenhix: delete it, recreate it |
| 09:14 | <Lenhix> | :( |
| 09:14 | <petemc> | whats wrong with that? |
| 09:14 | <kapil> | Lenhix: ln -s /tmp/a /tmp/b; ln -sf /tmp/c /tmp/b |
| 09:14 | <Lenhix> | I thought therewas some kind of modifying it without deleting it |
| 09:14 | <Lenhix> | *some program to |
| 09:14 | <kapil> | the first one creates the "old" link. the second one deletes the old link and creates a new link |
| 09:15 | <johnfg> | Tekno, I guess I don't have it installed; weird. I'll go get it. |
| 09:15 | <Tekno> | its not installed by default :) |
| 09:16 | <Tekno> | it should be (imo) ;) |
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| 09:17 | <ml> | Tekno: still need help with openbox maximize |
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| 09:18 | <Tekno> | yes |
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| 09:21 | <ml> | take a look at... |
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| 09:21 | <ml> | http://icculus.org/openbox/index.php/Help:Actions#Window_actions |
| 09:21 | <Lenhix> | I dist-upgraded from etch to lenny and now VMware 1.0.8 doesn't work. When i try to recompile the vmmon module I get errors :( |
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| 09:23 | <ncfi1013> | i recently restored my ipod to factory settings. it works fine on playback. it mounts in the new device manager. but it won't mount in amarok. can anybody tell me what the preconnect and postdisconnect commands are for a 3rd gen ipod? |
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| 09:25 | <Lenhix> | http://rafb.net/p/hRE3x072.html |
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| 09:26 | <Tekno> | ml: i still dont understand how to get every app to maximized when I run them |
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| 09:29 | <Tekno> | nevermind |
| 09:29 | <Tekno> | I installed maximus from ubuntu repository :E |
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| 09:34 | <ml> | Tekno: you would have to edit each item in menu.xml you want to maximize at launch |
| 09:34 | <Tekno> | yes. |
| 09:35 | <Tekno> | so if I have 2000 apps |
| 09:35 | <ml> | lol |
| 09:35 | <Tekno> | I'd edit 2000 items there |
| 09:35 | <Tekno> | right on |
| 09:35 | <ml> | is maximus working out? |
| 09:35 | <Tekno> | yes |
| 09:35 | <Tekno> | perfectly |
| 09:36 | <ml> | :) |
| 09:36 | <Tekno> | I did add deb-src from ubuntu |
| 09:36 | <Tekno> | then compiled it |
| 09:36 | <Tekno> | to .deb |
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| 09:40 | <jthomas> | Tekno can you explain how you did that for me? Likely there are some apps there that I'd like to use myself! |
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| 09:42 | <Lenhix> | I solved my problem booting again with the etchnhalf kernel :) |
| 09:43 | <Tekno> | to /etc/apt/sources.list: deb-src http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid main restricted universe multiverse |
| 09:43 | <Tekno> | as root: apt-get --build source packagename |
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| 09:43 | <Tekno> | something like that |
| 09:44 | <Tekno> | dont forget apt-get update |
| 09:45 | <azeem> | I'm trying to mount my /home via NFSv4 to another box. The mounting works, and the permissions are ok, but if I want to touch/create a file I get "permission denied" |
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| 09:45 | <azeem> | anybody know what I should check? |
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| 09:50 | <jthomas> | Tekno sounds so simple, thanks! |
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| 10:22 | <wb> | hi :i use lenny i want install perl modules like(*.pm),what i shoud do? |
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| 10:24 | <petemc> | wb: check to see if there is a debian package containing the module you need |
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| 10:25 | <torsten> | help |
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| 10:25 | <wb> | i apt-cache search Net::SSH::perl but it don't included! |
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| 10:26 | <petemc> | libnet-ssh-perl |
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| 10:27 | <wb> | i try it .wait |
| 10:27 | <petemc> | theres probably a better way, but you can do apt-cache search lib perl |grep foo |
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| 10:27 | <wb> | couldn't find package libnet-ssh-perl |
| 10:28 | <wb> | ok |
| 10:28 | <eightyeight> | i'm having trouble sending mail from a specific box on my lan. every other box sends mail fine. i've been at this for a couple days, and see no reason why i can't send mail. no firewall, routing table is in place, dns resolves fine |
| 10:28 | <petemc> | judd: info libnet-ssh-perl |
| 10:28 | <judd> | petemc: libnet-ssh-perl (perl): is optional; Version: 0.09-1; Size: 11.1k; Installed: 76k -- Perl extension for secure shell |
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| 10:28 | <petemc> | wb: it should exist |
| 10:28 | <eightyeight> | ssh, ftp, nfs, http, xmpp, etc all work fine. just not sending mail. this is a debian 5.0 box, fresh install. any ideas? i'm running postfix as my mta |
| 10:29 | <petemc> | anything in the postfix logs? |
| 10:29 | <eightyeight> | just that it's timing out |
| 10:29 | <petemc> | can you telnet host 25 ? |
| 10:29 | <petemc> | (from that box to elsewhere) |
| 10:29 | <eightyeight> | no. not if host is external |
| 10:30 | <eightyeight> | i get the ip (dns works), but then times out |
| 10:30 | <petemc> | so theres your problem |
| 10:30 | <eightyeight> | i know what my problem is, i don't know the solution |
| 10:30 | <eightyeight> | again, every other host can connect |
| 10:30 | <eightyeight> | (on my lan, that is) |
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| 10:31 | <petemc> | is there a firewall involved? |
| 10:31 | <eightyeight> | on the gateway. no outbound filters. only port forward inbound |
| 10:31 | <petemc> | well, its probably a firewall |
| 10:32 | <eightyeight> | there's nothing in the firewall that should be blocking it |
| 10:32 | <petemc> | yet its being blocked |
| 10:32 | <eightyeight> | so, you're saying i've got a rule in my linksys router that is blocking smtp outbound packets from this specific host? |
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| 10:33 | <petemc> | no, i said your problem sounds like a firewall issue |
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| 10:33 | <petemc> | this is a common scenario, people argue for a while that its not the firewall, then they go off and the honest ones come back an hour later saying they found the problem on the firewall |
| 10:33 | <eightyeight> | and i'm saying there's no such firewall rule |
| 10:33 | <petemc> | fair enough |
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| 10:34 | <eightyeight> | iptables is clean. nothing in tcp wrappers. linksys router is only blocking inbound requests, with a couple port opened forwarding as necessary |
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| 10:34 | <eightyeight> | xinetd is not installed |
| 10:34 | <eightyeight> | (not that postfix uses tcp wrappers or xinetd) |
| 10:34 | <petemc> | can you telnet to port 25 of internal hosts? |
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| 10:35 | <eightyeight> | the other host's mta isn't listening on anything other than localhost |
| 10:35 | <valdyn> | eightyeight: what is the outout out netstat -plunt for that port ? |
| 10:35 | <valdyn> | eightyeight: command run at the smtp host |
| 10:36 | <petemc> | eightyeight: make an internal host listen on port 25, and if you can connect to that but not to anything through the firewall, it should be obvious even to you where the problem is |
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| 10:37 | <eightyeight> | valdyn: tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:25 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 32643/master |
| 10:37 | <valdyn> | eightyeight: fine, its listening to everything incoming |
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| 10:38 | <valdyn> | eightyeight: do what petemc said.. |
| 10:38 | <valdyn> | eightyeight: telnet stuff i mean |
| 10:39 | <valdyn> | i *know* that aol fucks with your smtp in bad ways, i dont know your isp or what it might do |
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| 10:40 | <eightyeight> | well, i would question my isp if it was the same on all hosts. but i have 6 boxes on the network, and this is the only troubled one. the rest work fine for sending. haven't tested receiving |
| 10:41 | <petemc> | you're not the first to have this kind of problem |
| 10:41 | <petemc> | and in my experience, its always the firewall |
| 10:41 | <valdyn> | eightyeight: hmm? our only problem *is* recieving |
| 10:41 | <eightyeight> | yeah. i know, and that's why i'm here |
| 10:41 | <petemc> | eightyeight: but you dont want to listen to the advice you receive here |
| 10:41 | <eightyeight> | valdyn: no, i can't send email from this host. times out connecting to the external mta |
| 10:42 | <valdyn> | eightyeight: which mta exactly? |
| 10:42 | <eightyeight> | petemc: well, fwiw, i was a linux sys admin instructor |
| 10:42 | <eightyeight> | valdyn: postfix |
| 10:42 | <valdyn> | eightyeight: when are you going to try the telnet thing? |
| 10:42 | <valdyn> | eightyeight: thats not useful |
| 10:42 | <valdyn> | eightyeight: the domain name would be more useful |
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| 10:42 | <eightyeight> | i'm setting up postfix on another host now |
| 10:43 | <valdyn> | eightyeight: or at the very list the information if its the same smtp server that works for the other hosts |
| 10:43 | <valdyn> | *least*, not list |
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| 10:44 | <eightyeight> | ok. from achilles (the troubled box) i can 'telnet helios 25' (helios being the new mta listening on the lan) |
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| 10:44 | <petemc> | tcptraceroute can check ports along hops |
| 10:44 | <eightyeight> | but, i cannot 'telnet some-external-mta 25' from achilles |
| 10:44 | <eightyeight> | i can from helios |
| 10:44 | <valdyn> | eightyeight: how many remote mta did you try to telnet? |
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| 10:45 | <valdyn> | eightyeight: does anything at all work remote? like telnet google.com 80 ? |
| 10:46 | <eightyeight> | yes. telnet google.com 80 works. this box is an external dns, dhcp, xmpp, http and ssh server |
| 10:46 | <Tekno> | :p |
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| 10:47 | <eightyeight> | i can pull up elinks, and browse the web in text all day long. i can connect to external ftp servers. i can ssh out. anything and everything, except smtp |
| 10:47 | <valdyn> | so you made a firewall rules on a hop you own or on achilles that blocks just smtp for achilles |
| 10:48 | <eightyeight> | i want to believe it's a fierwall issue, but again, no iptables on any host in the network, and the linksys gateway only has inbound blocking. outbound is wide open |
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| 10:48 | <valdyn> | ( or all your "local" boxes actually have routable internet ip addresses and achilles is blacklisted |
| 10:48 | <kop> | eightyeight : You tried more than 1 external smtp server? (I'm wondering about blacklists too..) |
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| 10:48 | <eightyeight> | kop: yes. i have. if you have a new one for me to try... |
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| 10:49 | <valdyn> | eightyeight: mail.google.com |
| 10:49 | <eightyeight> | valdyn: heh. not likely. i'm behind nat |
| 10:49 | <eightyeight> | valdyn: done that one several times |
| 10:49 | <valdyn> | eightyeight: telnet mail.google.com 25 |
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| 10:49 | <eightyeight> | valdyn: times out. |
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| 10:49 | <valdyn> | eightyeight: you have a funny router issue |
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| 10:50 | <valdyn> | eightyeight: did you fuck with mtu / mru ? |
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| 10:50 | <eightyeight> | not that i know of |
| 10:50 | <valdyn> | eightyeight: boot a livecd on that box, telnet from there |
| 10:50 | <InkBottle> | how can I give my address to a dhcp server? |
| 10:50 | <kop> | eightyeight : I always think hping would be useful for finding where the problem is, but never seem to actually need to go there. |
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| 10:51 | <eightyeight> | valdyn: right now, i'm remote. only in via ssh |
| 10:51 | <kop> | InkBottle : ? A dhcp server gives an address to you. |
| 10:51 | <petemc> | InkBottle: you can send a hostname in /etc/dhclient.conf |
| 10:51 | <InkBottle> | kop: yes |
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| 10:52 | <InkBottle> | petemc: will the dhcp server read it? |
| 10:52 | <petemc> | InkBottle: if its configured to |
| 10:53 | <InkBottle> | petemc: That's what I wanted to know, but I'm not sure it's possible: it's in a "box" |
| 10:53 | <kop> | eightyeight : Well, you can try hping. It's supposed to be able to "traceroute" with tcp to arbitrary ports. |
| 10:54 | <petemc> | i think concentrating on port 25 would be more useful |
| 10:54 | <kop> | eightyeight : No iptables rules on achellies? |
| 10:54 | <kop> | petemc : Well, yeah. But you need tcp, which traceroute does not do. |
| 10:54 | <petemc> | tcptraceroute, as ive already suggested |
| 10:54 | <eightyeight> | no. iptables -vnL shows wide open, with the default policy ACCEPT. same with -t nat and -t mangle for all chains |
| 10:55 | <kop> | petemc : But his problem is with tcp, not udp. |
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| 10:55 | <kop> | petemc :oops. Never mind. |
| 10:55 | <eightyeight> | petemc: tcptraceroute -p 25 mail.google.com? |
| 10:55 | <InkBottle> | petemc: kop: thanks |
| 10:56 | <petemc> | eightyeight: -P |
| 10:56 | <eightyeight> | ahh |
| 10:56 | <wb> | IDENTIFY |
| 10:56 | <eightyeight> | no. -p. -P isn't a valid option |
| 10:57 | <petemc> | it is |
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| 10:57 | <petemc> | its used when port 25 is in use on the originating host |
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| 10:57 | <petemc> | or the port you're trying to test, to be more accurate |
| 10:58 | <eightyeight> | i'm getting invalid option |
| 10:58 | <petemc> | anyway, if its not mtu as valdyn suggested, its the firewall |
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| 10:58 | <eightyeight> | even if it is in the man page |
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| 10:58 | <eightyeight> | mtu on the gatway is set to auto |
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| 10:59 | <petemc> | mtu problems usually say stuff like broken pipe etc, so id doubt its even that |
| 10:59 | <valdyn> | all mtu really should break is windows |
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| 10:59 | <valdyn> | ( in my experience ) |
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| 11:01 | <valdyn> | -P sets the protocal in my tcptraceroute |
| 11:01 | <eightyeight> | well, if it is a firewall, i have no idea where to look |
| 11:01 | <petemc> | firewall -> window |
| 11:01 | <valdyn> | eightyeight: what about the tcptraceroute run? |
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| 11:01 | <eightyeight> | invalid option -P |
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| 11:02 | <valdyn> | eightyeight: dont use -P, tcp is default , -P is for the protoco |
| 11:02 | <valdyn> | l |
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| 11:02 | <petemc> | tcptraceroute mail.google.com -P 25 |
| 11:02 | <petemc> | ... |
| 11:02 | <petemc> | 14 mg-in-f83.google.com (209.85.137.83) [open] 46.545 ms 44.824 ms 44.101 ms |
| 11:02 | <eightyeight> | achilles:~# tcptraceroute mail.google.com -P 25 |
| 11:02 | <eightyeight> | getopt: invalid option -- P |
| 11:02 | <pseudonyme> | s'est bien un forum français? |
| 11:02 | <petemc> | !fr |
| 11:02 | <dpkg> | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net. |
| 11:02 | <zumbi> | !hi, what kernel do i need to run vmware? vserver one? |
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| 11:03 | <valdyn> | eightyeight: must be a different tcptraceroute program |
| 11:03 | <eightyeight> | default on debian 5.0 |
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| 11:03 | <petemc> | zumbi: normal debian kernel should be fine |
| 11:03 | <petemc> | 686 |
| 11:03 | <zumbi> | 2.6.26-1-686 |
| 11:03 | <valdyn> | eightyeight: install the tcptraceroute package |
| 11:04 | <valdyn> | eightyeight: there got to be quite a few tcptraceroute programs |
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| 11:04 | <eightyeight> | dpkg -S /usr/bin/tcptraceroute didn't have a package |
| 11:04 | <dpkg> | Package: /usr/bin/tcptraceroute didn't have a package: Status: install ok installed |
| 11:04 | <valdyn> | eightyeight: now mine is tcptraceroute -p <sourceport> host <destport>, no -P |
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| 11:05 | <petemc> | i cant help but feel its a bit of waste of time anyway, i would put money on the problem being the gateway |
| 11:05 | <valdyn> | eightyeight: thats ok |
| 11:05 | <valdyn> | eightyeight: its a symlink |
| 11:06 | <zumbi> | petemc: vmware installer tries to build a module and it fails with redefinitions and some other errors |
| 11:06 | <eightyeight> | if it is the gateway, i don't know where to look. it's pretty standard config. only thing non-default is the hostname and inbound port forwarding |
| 11:06 | <valdyn> | eightyeight: you need to run tcptraceroute properly |
| 11:06 | <petemc> | zumbi: thats on the host, if you follow a decent guide you can fix those errors |
| 11:06 | <petemc> | (most likely) |
| 11:06 | <eightyeight> | valdyn: i'm letting it run |
| 11:07 | <zumbi> | ok - so that is expected, i'll go through a guide |
| 11:07 | <joss> | suddenly started to get the same mirror vaues to host and guest both for dummies, whats wrong.. |
| 11:07 | <petemc> | eightyeight: can you take it out the equations temporarily? ie, connect the machine directly to the internet |
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| 11:07 | <pseudonyme> | hi , I want to know if Debian is difficult for a half-beginner? |
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| 11:08 | <valdyn> | pseudonyme: whatever that means |
| 11:08 | <Breadcultist> | I just installed the joystick driver in lenny. joy2key expects a the file /dev/js0, but I only have /dev/input/js0, would it be a bad idea (or even possible) to make a link from one to the other? |
| 11:08 | <valdyn> | pseudonyme: debian is hard for people who do not read documentation |
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| 11:10 | <pseudonyme> | I am going to read the wiki and to see if I migrate |
| 11:10 | <pseudonyme> | thank |
| 11:10 | <eightyeight> | valdyn: petemc: http://pastebin.com/d4a238950 |
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| 11:10 | <Breadcultist> | it worked! |
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| 11:11 | <gsimmons> | Breadcultist: You can alternatively use joy2key's -dev option. |
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| 11:11 | <Breadcultist> | thanks, just read that option... now to get it to do stuff |
| 11:12 | <eightyeight> | petemc: i can't now. i'm at work. when i get home, i'll bypass the gateway, and connect directly to the modem. we'll see what happens |
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| 11:12 | <eightyeight> | but, that traceroute doesn't make sense to me. it shows that it's not on my end, but yet it works from all machines except this? |
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| 11:15 | <petemc> | eightyeight: looks odd alright |
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| 11:17 | <eightyeight> | i wonder if they're connected to the same switch, and if that's the problem |
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| 11:18 | <qwerty1234> | hello |
| 11:19 | <qwerty1234> | It is any way to eahc time i try install one pack, he automatic install all dependence? |
| 11:19 | <kop> | eightyeight : There's always tcpdump, but who wants to go there? |
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| 11:20 | <kop> | qwerty1234 : That's what the package managers do automatically. |
| 11:20 | <qwerty1234> | that is I believe it do... but for example, i try isnall k9copy... and I dont know why, he not isntall depens... and i have itnernet, he can take all the stuff from there... :( |
| 11:20 | <qwerty1234> | Im becoming crazy trying learn linux... hahahaha |
| 11:21 | <kop> | qwerty1234 : What are you typing and what is the result? |
| 11:21 | <zumbi> | petemc: i get following error http://paste.debian.net/29218/, not described on a decent guide as http://wiki.debian.org/VMware |
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| 11:21 | <eightyeight> | kop: i've been looking at tcpdumps for sometime, trying to make sense of this |
| 11:22 | <kop> | eightyeight : To really look at them you want wireshark. And a large snaplen. |
| 11:22 | <qwerty1234> | in that case, i used manager pack from kde, and add the deb of the official website say... |
| 11:23 | <eightyeight> | kop: yeah |
| 11:23 | <qwerty1234> | and now i have weird problems... it second time re-install debian 5.0... Im jsut change graphic card, I think it oculd be the problem... |
| 11:23 | <eightyeight> | ok. so, now that i've install postfix on helios, i can no longer send mail. mail.log shows timing out as well |
| 11:23 | <kop> | qwerty1234 : If you're new to linux you want to get all your software from the official debian software repositores, not from any other website. |
| 11:23 | <qwerty1234> | becasue it jsut start the sesion, and get freeze... weird, i cant associate the freeze with nothing.. |
| 11:24 | <qwerty1234> | but if in the official repositores are not the pakc i want, what must i do? |
| 11:24 | <petemc> | zumbi: you may need a patch for that |
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| 11:24 | <kop> | eightyeight : Very strange. Check the postfix website. I seem to recall some sort of tcp issue, but can't for the life of me remember what. There's a config fix. But that would imply that there's a transparent proxy or something between you and the net. |
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| 11:25 | <zumbi> | petemc: i wanted to try make-vmpkg but i can not find any package on lenny containing such tool |
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| 11:25 | <kop> | qwerty1234 : You can get some stuff from backports.org. Otherwise you either wait for a new debian release or become an expert. |
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| 11:26 | <koperton> | i have a issue with kmplayer and kde4.2 |
| 11:26 | <petemc> | zumbi: im not sure thats going to help, you need a vmware any update |
| 11:26 | <kop> | qwerty1234 : Also, check your /etc/apt/sources.list to see that you've all the debian repositories enabled, if what you want happens to be in non-free or contrib. |
| 11:26 | <koperton> | i can't load xine engine on kmplayer |
| 11:26 | <koperton> | why |
| 11:26 | <koperton> | i get only mplayer engine |
| 11:26 | <petemc> | zumbi: http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:4E2qoZR4T60J:blog.leech0r.co.uk/30/10/2008/installing-vmware-server-107-on-debian-lennysid/+make:+***+%5Bvmmon.ko%5D+Error+2+debian+lenny&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5 |
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| 11:27 | <eightyeight> | kop: but, exim or postfix both connect on port 25. why postfix but not exim? |
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| 11:28 | <kop> | qwerty1234 : Install stuff yourself and you're doing your own system's integration. You will have problems upgrading and with security patches and so forth and things will break unless you know what you're doing. |
| 11:28 | <qwerty1234> | kop its funny, but i cant open it with sudo... dont know why kwrite and gedit dont let edit it |
| 11:28 | <gsimmons> | zumbi: make-vmpkg is not available for Lenny. See bug #491509 in the BTS. |
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| 11:28 | <qwerty1234> | gedit say no isntalled, kwrite say cant open x server, under root terminal |
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| 11:28 | <qwerty1234> | and under normal terminal with sudo, say i cant do it... jajaja |
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| 11:28 | <qwerty1234> | each time this is more dificult... |
| 11:28 | <zumbi> | petemc: nice - i should try that :-) |
| 11:30 | <kop> | eightyeight : My brain is full. It's not tcp window sizes.... I think. There's some sort of "postfix does it right" and others don't issue, either in the smtp protocol or in the tcp settings. But none of that would explain why telnet would not work.... |
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| 11:30 | <zumbi> | gsimmons: but is there any reason? |
| 11:32 | <Breadcultist> | joy2key wants to press the shift button all the time, can I make it not do that? |
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| 11:33 | <gsimmons> | zumbi: It's buggy. The last time I checked, it wasn't working against VMware Server 2.0 and friends. |
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| 11:37 | <kop> | eightyeight : I'm thinking the main.cf tcp_windowsize conf parameter. Maybe your router is wonky. |
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| 11:38 | <zumbi> | petemc: your hot-fix link seem to work fine :) |
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| 11:48 | <problematic> | I don't know how it happens, but when I minimize my things like pidgin xchat they will not to the tray. |
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| 11:51 | <problematic> | Not minimize, but assupting I am doing the correct thing to these thing will to the tray, but they doesn't go. |
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| 11:53 | <problematic> | Can please someone help me on it? |
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| 11:54 | <Breadcultist> | are you using gnome, problematic ? |
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| 11:54 | <naghtan> | hi |
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| 11:57 | <problematic> | Breadcultist, yes. |
| 11:57 | <naghtan> | hello |
| 11:58 | <Breadcultist> | maybe you accidently removed you window list, problematic? |
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| 11:59 | <Breadcultist> | no wait... I didn't read what you said |
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| 12:00 | <problematic> | Breadcultist, trust speaking I removed the panel and I have a new now. Then this new one has the problem. |
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| 12:01 | <Breadcultist> | so you removed your entire lower panel? |
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| 12:02 | <Breadcultist> | then put a new one back down there? you'll have manually add the window list too, if that's what you want |
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| 12:05 | <problematic> | I can't find this, this isn't her. |
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| 12:06 | <Breadcultist> | right click on a panel, add to panel... window list should be on this list |
| 12:06 | <problematic> | No, isn't the windows list what I want. |
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| 12:06 | <problematic> | Is the right-top tray |
| 12:06 | <problematic> | left from the clock |
| 12:07 | <Breadcultist> | do you have a tray up there right now? |
| 12:07 | <problematic> | No. |
| 12:07 | <Breadcultist> | Notification Area is the name that's in my list |
| 12:07 | <zumbi> | petemc: now the problem is with libs, it just does not find /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libvmwarebase.so.0, should i just set LD_LIBRARY_PATH? |
| 12:07 | <problematic> | Let me try |
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| 12:08 | <problematic> | Breadcultist, tanks. Fix! |
| 12:08 | <problematic> | Thanks* |
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| 12:08 | <Breadcultist> | hooray! |
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| 12:08 | <naghtan> | hello... I was before qwerty1234! |
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| 12:10 | <naghtan> | Im just finish install DEbian 5.0 and when modules are loading, it get stucked when load MTA... what is that? |
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| 12:10 | <OdyX> | HI. Small "english-french" question. How do you name in english a person who is a "formateur" in french ' |
| 12:10 | <OdyX> | ? |
| 12:11 | <adb> | trainer ? |
| 12:11 | <Breadcultist> | MTA = mail transfer agent (maybe?) |
| 12:11 | <zumbi> | petemc: after editing library path, i get /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libstdc++.so.6: cannot read file data: Error 21, it looks like this vmware is very broken. |
| 12:12 | <Breadcultist> | naghtan: does it freeze there, like, forever |
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| 12:12 | <constant> | hallo |
| 12:12 | <OdyX> | adb: this sounds weird to me. "formateur" is like "teacher for adults" and not like "sportive coach" |
| 12:12 | <constant> | kann ich irgendwie am Drucker einstellen, das er auch Farbe druckt? |
| 12:13 | <OdyX> | !de | constant |
| 12:13 | <constant> | !de |
| 12:13 | <dpkg> | deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). DE == Desktop Environment |
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| 12:14 | <zumbi> | petemc: ok - after some library mangling I finally start it ! wow! nice |
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| 12:16 | <adb> | OdyX: Je suis un formateur. google donne > I am a trainer. |
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| 12:19 | <Kapsonfire3|VIP> | Huhu can anyone help me with an installation of debian (german support preferred) |
| 12:20 | <OdyX> | adb: merci. :) |
| 12:20 | <kop> | !tell Kapsonfire3|VIP -about de |
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| 12:21 | <Kapsonfire3|VIP> | i said preferred ... english would be ok^^ cause in german channel no one answers |
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| 12:22 | <petemc> | the installer asks which language you would like at the beginning of the installation |
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| 12:22 | <kop> | !tell Kapsonfire3|VIP -about ask |
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| 12:26 | <painejake> | Is ISPConfig worth installing? |
| 12:27 | <tosi> | how do i pull up the contents of a sd card once i put it in the card reader |
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| 12:29 | <adb> | OdyX: de rien ;) |
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| 12:30 | <painejake> | does ISPConfig include apache Bind etc with it? |
| 12:30 | <tetrimino> | how do i install kernel-source-2.6.26? |
| 12:30 | <tetrimino> | can't seem to find it in my souce.list |
| 12:31 | <stew> | tetrimino: it would be called linux-source-2.6.26 |
| 12:31 | <stew> | (since we now have non-linux kernels) |
| 12:31 | <tetrimino> | oh thanks :D |
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| 12:43 | <tetrimino> | how do i install kernel-source? |
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| 12:45 | <sd_> | Hello! Please advice how could I find out which blocksize does use my ext3 fs? I suspect it's 1KiB, because maximal file size limits to 16Gb ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3#Size_limits) . How to check it? Are there any ways to adjust it up to 2KiB (max file size would be 256Gb) not corrupting my production server? |
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| 12:47 | <tetrimino> | can anyone help me find linux-source-2.6.26? |
| 12:47 | <aiosjdaod> | . |
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| 12:47 | <sd_> | tetrimino: apt-get install linux-source |
| 12:48 | <tetrimino> | .. |
| 12:48 | <tetrimino> | hmm |
| 12:48 | <tetrimino> | it's already installed.. |
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| 12:48 | <tetrimino> | how come i can't install the damn nvidia drivers? |
| 12:49 | <tetrimino> | as got the linux-headers and source |
| 12:49 | <sd_> | tetrimino: wait... I know the answer |
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| 12:50 | <sd_> | tetrimino: add "non-free" to your /etc/apt/sources.list definition. nVidia is proprietary drvr, so it's non-free. Then: apt-get update ... then: |
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| 12:51 | <chealer> | tetrimino: you tell us |
| 12:52 | <sd_> | tetrimino: then you need nvidia-glx, nvidia-kernel-common, nvidia-xconfig |
| 12:53 | <sd_> | tetrimino: then you need: apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-xconfig |
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| 12:53 | <kop> | sd_ : tune2fs -l |
| 12:53 | <tetrimino> | but i already have the driver laying around |
| 12:53 | <tetrimino> | i just need to install it.. |
| 12:53 | <tetrimino> | but it wont let me.. |
| 12:54 | <tetrimino> | everything worked perfect earlier but i fucked my system up trying to install kde 4 :( |
| 12:54 | <sd_> | tetrimino: show the version of your kernel (uname -a) |
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| 12:54 | <tetrimino> | 2.6.26-1-686 #1 SMP Sat Jan 10 18:29:31 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 12:55 | <fxiny> | so . today i had the privilege to see a funny fs : "overflow" . 1M in all with /tmp mounted on it . all my scripts aborting "running out of space , device full" , this tragedy after filling up an extre klarge 2.5G / with debs , checking new lenny goodies , so if i understand this fs kicks in when root is full |
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| 12:56 | <fxiny> | but , how to get rid of "overflow" ? |
| 12:56 | <fxiny> | without lamely rebooting . like i did ? |
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| 12:58 | <fxiny> | i did remove some 250 MB , so / wasn't anymore full , but the overflow was still there sucking like a black hole |
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| 12:59 | <buffone> | come si fa a aggiornare da sorgenti (installazione riuscita) a far vedere il file da sorgente senza rimuovere il pacchetto relativo? |
| 12:59 | <fxiny> | overflow is what i read by runnning df |
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| 12:59 | <fxiny> | both tmpfs were there as usual |
| 13:00 | <fxiny> | df showed overflow last |
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| 13:01 | <fxiny> | i think is kinda of a bug |
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| 13:01 | <kop> | !tell buffone -about it |
| 13:01 | <fxiny> | because the system runs fine , it never stops but any scripts dumping into tmp are aborted |
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| 13:02 | <fxiny> | same for scripts running at login , i use archivemail at login for example |
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| 13:05 | <sd_> | kop: tune2fs -l -- what will it give me?.. |
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| 13:07 | <kop> | sd_ : All the info on the fs on the partition you supply. |
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| 13:08 | <fxiny> | tomorrow i will replicate it . same steps |
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| 13:13 | <fxiny> | "/usr/sbin/logcheck: line 160: cannot create temp file for here document: No space left on device" |
| 13:13 | <c36pop> | hi are there any subversion administrators here ? |
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| 13:38 | <marga> | Anyone around here bought a Kindle 2 and knows if it works as usb mass-storage device? |
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| 13:42 | <xlotlu> | how do i configure which font gets chosen for a specific alias? e.g.: for Courier i get Nimbus Mono L, but i want Liberation Mono |
| 13:42 | <xlotlu> | i tried adding the alias to /etc/defoma/hints/ttf-liberation.hints and editing ~/.fonts.conf to add alias/prefer but to no avail.. |
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| 13:45 | <xlotlu> | i think it has to dowith somewhat of a circular alias from Courier to Courier New in /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf |
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| 13:46 | <ooter> | yo |
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| 13:52 | <ooter> | oo.. 16 GB! |
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| 13:57 | <DeathWatch> | hi all |
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| 14:12 | <xicobueno> | ][][][-Any gay in here-][][][ |
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| 14:12 | <stew> | xicobueno: this is not a social chanel, perhaps try #moocows if you are looking for a social channel |
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| 14:15 | <xicobueno> | ][][][-#moocows-][][][ |
| 14:15 | <simonrvn> | xicobueno: ... |
| 14:15 | <xicobueno> | ][][][-Yes???-][][][ |
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| 14:16 | <simonrvn> | *plonk* |
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| 14:17 | <xicobueno> | ][][][-Any gay in here?-][][][ |
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| 14:56 | <D6> | Hello guys. I'd like to configure udev somehow to force it to name ethernet device "eth0" and wireless device "eth1" (or wlan0). I know that I should use "persistent-net.rules" file or some other udev rules, but the manual page don't say much about them. How can I achive that? Thanks! |
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| 14:57 | <gsimmons> | !z25 |
| 14:57 | <dpkg> | As of version 0.090, udev has the ability to statically rename ethernet cards based on MAC address. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules . If you want the mappings to change, edit that file. See <forcedeth mac>. As of version 0.124-1 the file is called /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules . |
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| 14:58 | <D6> | And yes, this configuration must not use MAC addresses (by internal reasons) |
| 14:58 | <D6> | :) |
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| 14:59 | <D6> | Any ideas? I think I should use ATTR{type}, but it is not documented well |
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| 15:01 | <D6> | E.g. I need something like SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{type}=="???", NAME="eth0" |
| 15:01 | <ddfire> | hi |
| 15:01 | <D6> | SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{type}=="???", NAME="eth1" |
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| 15:03 | <ddfire> | my debian (lenny) system has identiti problems, when i do apt-get install it tell throwme error telling me the package dependes on librarys but from ia32 arch |
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| 15:03 | <ddfire> | i had installed the system using the netinstall and i installer lenny when it get stable |
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| 15:06 | <teratoma> | D6: in 70-persistent-net.rules you'll see a line for each of your ethernet devices, labeled eth0 eth1 eth2, etc. |
| 15:06 | <teratoma> | just rename them, simple |
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| 15:07 | <D6> | teratoma: It doesn't have interface for wireless, because it is "debootstrapped" environment, I need to add a rule for wireless by hand, but I don't know proper value of ATTR{type} for wireless |
| 15:08 | <D6> | and BTW, 70-persistent-net.rules will be rewritten during the next reboot, but I can fix it by writing my own rule which will be executed before 70-persistent-net.rules |
| 15:08 | <D6> | not a problem |
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| 15:10 | <ddfire> | no one have any idea??? |
| 15:10 | <teratoma> | i dont think it gets totally rewritten during next reboot |
| 15:10 | <teratoma> | ddfire: what version are you using? amd64? 32bit? |
| 15:10 | <D6> | teratoma: it's seems it is. By /lib/udev/write_net_rules. |
| 15:10 | <ddfire> | teratoma: amd64 |
| 15:10 | <tetrimino> | adb are you online? |
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| 15:13 | <tetrimino> | can someone help me installing nvidia-drivers? |
| 15:13 | <tetrimino> | i need to fix something with linux-headers and source |
| 15:13 | <ddfire> | tetrimino: hi |
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| 15:13 | <tetrimino> | hi ddfire |
| 15:13 | <ddfire> | tetrimino: wich kernel do you have? |
| 15:13 | <tetrimino> | 2.6.26-1-686 |
| 15:14 | <ddfire> | install the kernel headers |
| 15:14 | <ddfire> | one sec i will give you the full package name |
| 15:14 | <tetrimino> | thanks |
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| 15:15 | <ddfire> | tetrimino: you should do "apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686" |
| 15:15 | <ddfire> | teratoma: have any idea? |
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| 15:15 | <dsr> | hali |
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| 15:16 | <tetrimino> | ddfire, seems like have already done that |
| 15:16 | <disv> | are the kernel headers sufficient to build the nvidia drivers using module assistant? |
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| 15:17 | <tetrimino> | disv, i don't know |
| 15:17 | <ddfire> | tetrimino: when you try to install the nvidia drivers what do you get? |
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| 15:18 | <tetrimino> | something with kernel module.. |
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| 15:18 | <tetrimino> | give me sec and i can check it |
| 15:18 | <ddfire> | tetrimino: did you download the drivers from nvdidia page? |
| 15:18 | <tetrimino> | yes |
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| 15:18 | <ddfire> | is for this machine rigth? |
| 15:18 | <tetrimino> | also did i yesterday and made it work.. but today i tried to install kde 4.0 and it fuck'd it up |
| 15:19 | <tetrimino> | yes |
| 15:19 | <ddfire> | tetrimino: try to run it again (yes go to terminal) and show me what do you get, i will wait for you i have 40 minutos more here |
| 15:19 | <tetrimino> | the log says: "Unable to build the NVIDIA kernel module." |
| 15:20 | <ddfire> | tetrimino: ok but , why? |
| 15:20 | <ddfire> | pastebin the log |
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| 15:20 | <tetrimino> | got a site where i can paste it? |
| 15:20 | <c36pop> | hi i ve tried vino server in its default configuration but is really slow ; are there any tweaks to do ? |
| 15:21 | <ddfire> | pastebin.com |
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| 15:21 | <ddfire> | pleaseeeeeeeeeee some one help me, my debian amd64 show me error about cant install package but it want to get ia32 package |
| 15:22 | <Yidfixy> | ? |
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| 15:23 | <tcsetattr> | ddfire: quote, don't paraphrase. |
| 15:24 | <tetrimino> | ddfire, how do i acces the log so i can copy paste? |
| 15:24 | <tetrimino> | mc and gedit won't let me |
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| 15:25 | <ddfire> | open it in any text editor |
| 15:25 | <D6> | tetrimino: BTW, is it possible to write DRIVER=="r8169" to exactly match the driver name? This will solve the problem I believe |
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| 15:25 | <tetrimino> | D6, don't really know what you mean :( |
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| 15:26 | <D6> | tetrimino: Ah, sorry :) |
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| 15:26 | <D6> | teratoma: BTW, is it possible to write DRIVER=="r8169" to exactly match the driver name? This will solve the problem I believe |
| 15:26 | <tetrimino> | ddfire, http://pastebin.com/m79360b72 |
| 15:27 | <ddfire> | tcsetattr: it said: "libwine: Depende: ia32-libs (>= 2.4) pero no va a instalarse " is in spanish the translation is "libwine: depends ia32-libs (>= 2.4) but it will not be installed" |
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| 15:27 | <ddfire> | tcsetattr: i dont know why it try to get ia32 package |
| 15:28 | <ddfire> | tetrimino: can you open it? |
| 15:28 | <tom> | Hi. I was using my Debian unstable machine (gnome, non-free nvidia driver, 1280x1024), and then I rebooted into an Ubuntu Jaunty alpha 4 CD, and installed that. When it had finished installing I then rebooted back into my Debian installation... and 'nvidia' seems to be default back to vesa, and 'nv' only supports 800x600,640x480. Does anybody have any suggestions as to why this might be, and how I might be able to fix it? |
| 15:28 | <tetrimino> | the document? |
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| 15:28 | <tcsetattr> | ddfire: because wine emulates a 32-bit operating system, I guess. but that's not important. what happens when you try "apt-get install ia32-libs" |
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| 15:29 | <tom> | `dmesg` still talks about how nvidia taints my kernel, and 'nvidia' is in `lsmod`, so the module is loaded at least. |
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| 15:29 | <McScruff> | hi all |
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| 15:30 | <ddfire> | tcsetattr: i dont know in a moment i will tell |
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| 15:30 | <ranix> | tom: nvidia does taint the kernel |
| 15:30 | <ddfire> | tetrimino: the log |
| 15:30 | <tom> | Oh and I don't fiddle with xorg.conf. The only thing I have changed was adding 'Driver "nvidia"' |
| 15:30 | <ranix> | tom: depending on to whom you speak, kernel tainting is asinine anyway |
| 15:30 | <tetrimino> | yeah |
| 15:30 | <ranix> | tom: ignore the messages if possible |
| 15:30 | <tetrimino> | ddfire, i posted it on pastebin http://pastebin.com/m79360b72 |
| 15:30 | <tom> | ranix: I realise that. That 'nv' doesn't work either suggests that the tainting is probably unrelated though right? |
| 15:31 | <betsalel> | hi, I just installed debian 5.0 and I cann't access my old ntfs disks, it says: Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume. once I click on them. whats wrong? I was told I can access my ntfs partitions... :( |
| 15:31 | <betsalel> | hi, I just installed debian 5.0 and I cann't access my old ntfs disks, it says: Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume. once I click on them. whats wrong? I was told I can access my ntfs partitions... :( |
| 15:31 | <ranix> | tom: kernel taint is when a non-open driver is either inserted or compiled into the kernel |
| 15:31 | <ranix> | tom: as I understand it, it's because people have a stick up their asses about supporting closed drivers |
| 15:31 | <ranix> | tom: which is understandable |
| 15:32 | <ranix> | tom: it's a warning, not an error |
| 15:33 | <tom> | ranix: Ok. Hmm, any thoughts on why I can't get my full resolution anymore then? |
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| 15:33 | <ranix> | tom: not sure, but it certainly has nothing to do with a tainted kernel. More likely, the nvidia driver is just badly documented and a pain to administrate |
| 15:33 | <ranix> | tom: it personally takes me one to four hours to correct a minor nvidia problem |
| 15:33 | <tom> | I think we can safety ignore the 'nvidia' aspect of this, given 'nv' also fails. |
| 15:34 | <ddfire> | tetrimino: i had the same problem |
| 15:34 | <ddfire> | rm the link from gcc to gcc-4.3 and make a new one pointing to gcc-4.1 |
| 15:34 | <tetrimino> | do'h |
| 15:34 | <tetrimino> | ddfire, i need a guide to that :) |
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| 15:35 | <tetrimino> | but you want me to remove gcc? |
| 15:35 | <ddfire> | no no |
| 15:36 | <ddfire> | if you see you will note gcc is a symbolic link |
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| 15:36 | <ddfire> | the real program is gcc-4.3 and gcc-4.1 |
| 15:36 | <ike^> | Eye of GNOME 2.22.3 has serious issues |
| 15:36 | <ddfire> | tcsetattr: i get it depends on other lib |
| 15:36 | <ike^> | its seriously slow flipping trough pictures for some reason |
| 15:37 | <themill> | Why not install the nvidia drivers the debian way? then there's no problem with gcc |
| 15:37 | <ike^> | uses 100% of the cpu |
| 15:37 | <ddfire> | and the other lib depends on gcc-4.3-base (= 4.3.2-1.1) but 4.3.3-3 will be installed |
| 15:37 | <tetrimino> | ddfire, i don't follow.. :( |
| 15:37 | <tetrimino> | im so confused |
| 15:37 | <disv> | hmmm bugger linux-kbuild for kernel 2.6.28-amd64 isn't there yet |
| 15:38 | <ddfire> | tetrimino: install this apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6.26-1-amd64 |
| 15:38 | <tetrimino> | im not running amd.. i got intel. |
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| 15:40 | <tom> | Re: my problem, here's my Xorg.log http://pastebin.com/m5ac951f6 "(II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (hsync out of range)" looks particularly relevant. |
| 15:41 | <ddfire> | tetrimino: search for the intel onw |
| 15:41 | <ddfire> | one |
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| 15:42 | <runix__> | heyas :) what's the best way to delete recursively a directory with -a lot- of files? (mv foobar /tmp is great but the next time you reboot you can wait minutes!) |
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| 15:42 | <josue> | hola |
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| 15:42 | <josue> | saben como instalo netbeans |
| 15:42 | <tetrimino> | apt-cache seartch nvidia-kernel doens't come up with anything.. |
| 15:42 | <adama> | !es |
| 15:42 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 15:42 | <josue> | netbeans 7.10 |
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| 15:43 | <ddfire> | apt-cache search nvidia |
| 15:43 | <adama> | runix__: what's wrong with rm -rf foobar ? |
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| 15:44 | <runix__> | adama: it's -slow- |
| 15:44 | <tetrimino> | ddfire, just got some other stuff like xconfig |
| 15:44 | <adama> | runix__: what's the rush? |
| 15:44 | <runix__> | adama: trust me, I have some :) |
| 15:45 | <tcsetattr> | tom, it also says "Configured Monitor: Using default hsync range of 31.50-37.90 kHz". it's failing to detect your monitor's capabilities, so it's using a very conservative default. you need to either fix that autodetection or manually specify your monitor |
| 15:46 | <tom> | tcsetattr: Okay thanks. |
| 15:46 | <blarson> | runix__: How about mv to /tmp and rm -rf in the background? |
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| 15:47 | <runix__> | blarson: yeah, well, I was just checking if there was something 'better' :) |
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| 15:48 | <tcsetattr> | re-mkfs the filesystem, that'll get rid of your directory fast. (and all the other directories on the device) |
| 15:48 | <blarson> | runix__: I've used mke2fs to delete a bunch of files, but that was a special case. |
| 15:48 | <runix__> | blarson: yeah, I need a little bit more granularity :) |
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| 15:49 | <tcsetattr> | I believe if there was a faster way to do what /bin/rm -rf does, it would be coded into /bin/rm. |
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| 15:50 | <tcsetattr> | you could go medieval on it and unlink the directory, but then you just have the equivalent of rm -rf being performed by your next fsck. |
| 15:51 | <tcsetattr> | or the equivalent of mv * /lost+found ... |
| 15:51 | <runix__> | tcsetattr: just wondering, how do you unlink a directory? |
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| 15:52 | <tcsetattr> | debugfs can probably do it. if not, hex editor on the block device. but it won't free any space (except the directory itself) and it'll be corrupt until it gets a full fsck so... that was just a joke answer |
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| 15:53 | <runix__> | tcsetattr: :) |
| 15:54 | <ddfire> | tcsetattr: i solved the problem |
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| 15:54 | <tcsetattr> | "rm -d" was the old option for it I think, but it was never implemented in Linux. maybe in BSD or Solaris you can still corrupt your fs that way |
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| 15:54 | <tcsetattr> | found the ia32-libs, ddfire? |
| 15:56 | <ddfire> | tcsetattr: the problem was (i dont know why) when i choose the mirror during the instalation it added some squeze repos and my system is sid, the other day i change it to lenny repos |
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| 16:19 | <InkBottle> | experimental package kdebase-workspace has been broken for i386 for a while |
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| 16:20 | <InkBottle> | anyone could put the i386 binaries? |
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| 16:27 | <amphi> | !qotd0 |
| 16:27 | <dpkg> | <jetscreamer> hey isn't there some way to get a 4g file on fat32? like some different version of fat32 or something? |
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| 16:28 | <themill> | amphi: fat33, for example? |
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| 16:29 | <amphi> | heh |
| 16:30 | <chaser> | does someone know a good bluetooth manager for use in debian ? |
| 16:30 | <Tekno> | blueman |
| 16:30 | <chaser> | hmm |
| 16:30 | <chaser> | cant really get it installed overhere |
| 16:30 | <chaser> | running lenny |
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| 16:32 | <chaser> | Tekno: are you running blueman ? |
| 16:32 | <avu> | chaser, what's the exact error message? are you using aptitude to install it? |
| 16:32 | <chaser> | avu i cant find it in aptitude |
| 16:33 | <Tekno> | n |
| 16:33 | <chaser> | i even tried adding the ubuntu repo but then i got unsatisfied dependencies |
| 16:33 | <chaser> | and if i try manually fullfilling those i get stuck with bluez |
| 16:33 | <chaser> | it needs 4.something |
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| 16:33 | <avu> | don't install binary packages from ubuntu on debian |
| 16:34 | <avu> | if anything, get their source packages and build them yourself |
| 16:34 | * | chaser takes note... DONT TRY THAT AGAIN |
| 16:34 | <chaser> | :P |
| 16:34 | <chaser> | ty |
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| 16:34 | <avu> | the procedure is basically the same as for |
| 16:34 | <avu> | !ssb |
| 16:34 | <dpkg> | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add ONLY a "deb-src ..." line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. If you are just wanting to change the compilation options, ask me about <package recompile>, or see <uupdate> if sid is too old |
| 16:34 | <chaser> | lucky me i could not succesfully install any |
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| 16:36 | <chaser> | erm.. where to get the deb-src line ? |
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| 16:37 | <avu> | it's the exact same as the line starting with 'deb' you already seem to have :) |
| 16:37 | <avu> | just replace the 'deb' with 'deb-src' |
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| 16:42 | <chaser> | avu: after adding the repo i need to install blueman trough svn checkout ? |
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| 17:03 | <Haz> | hey guys, can anybody help me, i'm a noob |
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| 17:03 | <Haz> | haz@haz-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install -f |
| 17:03 | <Haz> | E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) |
| 17:03 | <Haz> | E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? |
| 17:04 | <Haz> | what 2 do? |
| 17:04 | <adama> | Haz: figure out what process/program is doing some kind of apt task, and stop it |
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| 17:04 | <InkBottle> | dpkg: Do you think I should do that too (build), for kdebase-workspace package for which the is no i386 binaries? |
| 17:04 | * | dpkg wouldn't dream of doing you think I should do that too (build), for kdebase-workspace package for which the is no i386 binaries |
| 17:04 | <Haz> | yeah, i've tried to stop a few programs didn't help |
| 17:05 | <Haz> | can't find out |
| 17:05 | <Haz> | which one |
| 17:05 | <adama> | try: lsof /var/lib/dpkg |
| 17:05 | <Haz> | nothing happens |
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| 17:06 | <InkBottle> | does it mean dpkg is sleeping? |
| 17:06 | <avu> | chaser, no, you do a port, just like the bot described |
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| 17:06 | <adama> | Haz: ok how about: ps fax|grep apt |
| 17:06 | <chaser> | avu, you mean it should show in synaptic after adding the repo ? |
| 17:07 | <Elessar> | hi |
| 17:07 | <chaser> | avu because it is not |
| 17:07 | <Elessar> | i want to allow ssh access only to users of a given group |
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| 17:07 | <Elessar> | i saw there is an ssh group already defined: should i use it for this, or does it have another goal? |
| 17:07 | <Haz> | 5092 ? Ss 0:00 avahi-daemon: running [haz-laptop.local] |
| 17:07 | <Haz> | 6561 ? S 0:01 apt-get install -f |
| 17:07 | <Haz> | 6588 pts/2 Ss+ 0:00 \_ /usr/bin/dpkg --status-fd 20 --unpack --auto-deconfigure /var/cache/apt/archives/odbcinst1debian1_2.2.11-16build2_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/unixodbc_2.2.11-16build2_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java6-bin_6-10-0ubuntu2_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java6-jre_6-10-0ubuntu2_all.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/xutils-dev_1%3a7.4+3_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/gsfonts-x11_0.20ubunt |
| 17:07 | <Haz> | u1_all.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/libavcodec51_3%3a0.svn20080206-12ubuntu3_i386.deb |
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| 17:07 | <Elessar> | (i already know how to restrict ssh access to a given group, my question is only about the 'ssh' group) |
| 17:08 | <adama> | Haz: ubuntu is not supported here |
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| 17:11 | <chaser> | avu: if i do the apt-get build dep with blueman it is not able to find the package |
| 17:11 | <chaser> | and if i try to build it from source i get stuck at bluez.. |
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| 17:15 | <Nidhoegger> | hi, since ive got that usb problem yesterday and mounted some usb drives manually, hal and kde 4 wont automount them anymore, how can i recover that? |
| 17:15 | <chaser> | check your /etc/fstab file |
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| 17:16 | <Nidhoegger> | the drives never were in the fstab |
| 17:17 | <chaser> | strange |
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| 17:17 | <Nidhoegger> | like i said, i plugged in a usb drive and it got automounted |
| 17:17 | <Nidhoegger> | the problem is, since that doesnt work anymore windows XP in vbox cant install the drivers anymore for that device |
| 17:18 | <Nidhoegger> | and i need it because its an mp3 player where i need some tools |
| 17:18 | <chaser> | try opening a terminal and type: tail -f /var/log/syslog |
| 17:18 | <chaser> | then reconnect the stick |
| 17:18 | <chaser> | then you can see what goes wrong |
| 17:19 | <Nidhoegger> | hal adds the device :( |
| 17:19 | <chaser> | what format is the stick in ? |
| 17:19 | <Nidhoegger> | vfat |
| 17:19 | <Nidhoegger> | manually i can mount it |
| 17:19 | <Nidhoegger> | but i want it to be automounted |
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| 17:20 | <chaser> | mount it, move the data to your computer and reformat it |
| 17:20 | <chaser> | that might help |
| 17:20 | <chaser> | sometime i have this with some sdcards |
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| 17:21 | <chaser> | !bss backports |
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| 17:21 | <chaser> | !ssb backports |
| 17:21 | <chaser> | lol |
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| 17:22 | <chaser> | avu: the bot only reply's to you ? |
| 17:22 | <chaser> | :P |
| 17:22 | <azeem> | I'm trying to mount my /home via NFSv4 to another box. The mounting works, and the permissions are ok and both mount and /var/lib/nfs/etab indicate "rw", but if I want to touch/create a file I get "permission denied" |
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| 17:22 | <azeem> | anybody got an idea where to look for hints? |
| 17:23 | <azeem> | sec=sys, btw, I don't use Kerberos, and my uids are different (but correctly mapped) |
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| 17:24 | <Nidhoegger> | didnt help :( |
| 17:24 | <chaser> | damn |
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| 17:25 | <chaser> | i am not sure then, fairly new user as well :P |
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| 17:25 | <chaser> | i have had the same issue a couple of times |
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| 17:26 | <Haz> | Guys, when i run a movie in any player my video flashesh, anybody knows what's the problem, i've been installing all kinds of codecs all day |
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| 17:26 | <chaser> | haz try vlc |
| 17:27 | <Haz> | yeah, that's my favourite player |
| 17:28 | <Haz> | the same thing |
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| 17:28 | <chaser> | what kind of video are you trying to look at ? |
| 17:28 | <amphi> | Haz: what video output driver are you using? |
| 17:29 | <Haz> | avi and mkv |
| 17:29 | <Haz> | the same thing with both |
| 17:29 | <Haz> | wait a sec |
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| 17:30 | <Haz> | ati/amd proprietary fglrx gtraphics driver |
| 17:30 | <Haz> | maybe that's the problem |
| 17:31 | <amphi> | Haz: if you have mplayer, try mplayer -vo xv and mplayer -vo x11 and see it there's a difference |
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| 17:31 | <Haz> | yeah the same thing in any player |
| 17:31 | <Haz> | i've downloaded lot's and lot's |
| 17:31 | <Haz> | of codecs and players |
| 17:31 | <Haz> | :D |
| 17:32 | <ooter> | that sounds familiar :D |
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| 17:33 | <ooter> | you could try what I've been doing, I bootup with a vga=792 in the boot parameters, modprobe nvidiafb, then watch it on the console with mplayer -vo fbdev |
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| 17:33 | <ooter> | and maybe a -fs -dr -nodouble |
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| 17:34 | <amphi> | Haz: did you try what I suggested? you can also do 'xvinfo | grep port' and try the different ports that are available, eg 'mplayer -vo xv:port=100' or whatever |
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| 17:38 | <Haz> | amphi : yeah i tried everything you've said, nothing happened |
| 17:38 | <joss> | ooter: hmm, 0x318 should try that, have you tried to boot intelfb? |
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| 17:39 | <joss> | seems that's not going that well here, as well as uvesafb |
| 17:39 | <amphi> | !blame fglrx |
| 17:39 | * | dpkg blames Naglfar and fglrx for the end of the world as we know it |
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| 17:40 | <amphi> | Haz: are you running compiz perchance? |
| 17:40 | <Haz> | yeah |
| 17:41 | <ooter> | joss: no I haven't just nvidiafb and vesafb |
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| 17:44 | <amphi> | Haz: ah ;) you could ask in #compiz-fusion on irc.freenode.net; there may be a well-known solution |
| 17:45 | <Haz> | already done |
| 17:45 | <Haz> | :) |
| 17:45 | <Haz> | it was the visual effects |
| 17:45 | <Haz> | just had to turn them off... |
| 17:46 | <Haz> | a shame thou |
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| 18:05 | <Nidhoegger> | referring to "top" vbox uses 105% CPU |
| 18:05 | <Nidhoegger> | hows that possible? |
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| 18:05 | <Tarcas> | multiple cores |
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| 18:08 | <Nidhoegger> | kk thx |
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| 18:10 | <Nidhoegger> | can i cp a file to an usb stick and make sure its completed before i can enter another command? |
| 18:10 | <Nidhoegger> | (on usb sticks cp copies a little bit in the background) |
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| 18:11 | <witte> | Nidhoegger: sync? |
| 18:11 | <Nidhoegger> | how? |
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| 18:11 | <witte> | man sync :-) |
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| 18:12 | <pabloarroyo06> | hello |
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| 18:12 | <witte> | Nidhoegger: i am not sure that sync does the trick, but i believe so |
| 18:12 | <Nidhoegger> | okay read it, can i say sync it should only do that to a specific device? |
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| 18:14 | <witte> | Nidhoegger: I do not know, you can also umount and mount the device. That should do the trick as well (depends on what you intend to do with it) |
| 18:14 | <djc> | if you 'umount' the stick that will not return until all writes are com... |
| 18:15 | <djc> | what witte said |
| 18:15 | <witte> | djc: :-) |
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| 18:15 | <ooter> | if anyone's curious about that fullscreen framebuffer console thing w/ mplayer, I posted my config over here: http://debian.pastebin.com/m1f83f6d7 |
| 18:15 | <ooter> | I realized there were a few things aside from -fs you have to do to get it to work |
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| 18:16 | <Nidhoegger> | djc but that messes up the files a bit, i need them exactly written in that row that i copy |
| 18:16 | <Nidhoegger> | its an audiobook for my mp3 player, he cant sort, so i have to copy them exactly how i want to hear em |
| 18:16 | <djc> | what? |
| 18:16 | <Nidhoegger> | umount doesn'T do that for any reason |
| 18:16 | <djc> | how does unmounting and remounting an fs 'mess up' files? |
| 18:17 | <amphi> | ooter: remind me what -dr is ;) |
| 18:17 | <pabloarroyo06> | hello people |
| 18:17 | <ooter> | amphi direct rendering |
| 18:17 | <amphi> | right, thanks |
| 18:17 | <ooter> | amphi: the nodouble disables double buffer |
| 18:17 | <amphi> | ooter: I like mplayer in console; youtube in console is not bad either |
| 18:18 | <amphi> | ooter: aye |
| 18:18 | <ooter> | amphi: I"m getting a bit of a delay right now for some reason |
| 18:18 | <pabloarroyo06> | i have a very good script |
| 18:18 | <pabloarroyo06> | for download |
| 18:18 | <pabloarroyo06> | videos |
| 18:18 | <pabloarroyo06> | of youtube |
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| 18:19 | <pabloarroyo06> | hi? |
| 18:19 | <ooter> | I'm using the get_youtube_vids.awk one right now |
| 18:19 | <ooter> | but I've used others that work |
| 18:19 | <ooter> | there was this perl one that was pretty nifty |
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| 18:20 | <Nidhoegger> | how do i copy a file that contains spaces? whats the syntax? |
| 18:21 | <ooter> | put a backslash before the spaces |
| 18:21 | <ooter> | either that or put it in quotes |
| 18:21 | <Nidhoegger> | thanks |
| 18:21 | <avu> | or just use tab completion |
| 18:21 | <tcsetattr> | type the beginning then hit TAB :) |
| 18:21 | <ooter> | yeah :) |
| 18:21 | <avu> | it does that for you automatically |
| 18:22 | <Nidhoegger> | need it for a script ;) |
| 18:22 | <tcsetattr> | if your filename with spaces is in a variable, quote the variable expansion like "$var" |
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| 18:23 | <tcsetattr> | it's a pretty good policy to ALWAYS quote variable expansions in a shell script unless you expect it to contain spaces and you WANT it to be broken up. |
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| 18:23 | <paul0> | gnome 2.24 isn't considered stable by Debian? |
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| 18:23 | <ooter> | oh ok, if I leave double buffer on the vid stops lagging |
| 18:24 | <ooter> | >_< doh |
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| 18:26 | <Nidhoegger> | qouting the filename doesnt work |
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| 18:26 | <tcsetattr> | show your code. |
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| 18:27 | <Nidhoegger> | was my fault :( |
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| 18:34 | <Cornucopia> | hi all |
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| 19:09 | <luismx> | hola |
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| 19:09 | <luismx> | alguien de mexico |
| 19:09 | <Tarcas> | !es |
| 19:09 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 19:22 | <Steven_M> | hi all |
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| 19:23 | <Steven_M> | is there a linux cammand shows you your exturnal ip address? |
| 19:24 | <azeem> | /sbin/ifconfig |
| 19:24 | <stew> | Steven_M: ifconfig or 'ip a' |
| 19:24 | <witte> | Steven_M: what do you mean with exturnal ip address? |
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| 19:24 | <Tekno> | www.whatismyip.com shows your external ip address |
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| 19:28 | <Steven_M> | witte: the ip the net sees, not the one behind my broadband router. |
| 19:28 | <witte> | Steven_M: in that case, use Tekno's solution, it will be the easiest... |
| 19:28 | <Steven_M> | ok |
| 19:30 | <Steven_M> | stew, witte, and Tekno: thanks :) |
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| 19:32 | <Tekno> | :) |
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| 19:47 | <ml> | Tekno: |
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| 19:49 | <Tekno> | ? |
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| 19:50 | <ml> | take look at this about the openbox maximize ... |
| 19:50 | <ml> | http://icculus.org/openbox/index.php/Help:Applications |
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| 19:51 | <ml> | if you don't want use maximus |
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| 19:53 | <Tekno> | yea |
| 19:53 | <Tekno> | I removed maximus |
| 19:53 | <Tekno> | and configured openbox to maximize windows |
| 19:53 | <Tekno> | its working |
| 19:53 | <Tekno> | very simple |
| 19:54 | <ml> | ok just found it a bit latter |
| 19:54 | <ml> | later |
| 19:54 | <berto> | anyone having problems with rhythmbox + last.fm (or with last.fm in general) ? |
| 19:54 | <Tekno> | just three lines to rc.xml :) |
| 19:54 | <ml> | and saw you thought I mention it |
| 19:54 | <ml> | yup |
| 19:54 | <ml> | glad you found it |
| 19:54 | <ml> | :) |
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| 20:04 | <chasingSol> | hi guys, i am trying to mount my ipod under etch, but with no luck, when i do fdisk -l, it doesn't show, any ideas? |
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| 20:04 | <azeem> | chasingSol: I think you need some special app like gtkpod, rhythmbox et al. to get it "mounted" |
| 20:05 | <chasingSol> | i installed them all |
| 20:05 | <chasingSol> | dmesg | tail -n 5 |
| 20:05 | <chasingSol> | usb 5-7: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 5 |
| 20:05 | <chasingSol> | usb 5-7: configuration #1 chosen from 3 choices |
| 20:06 | <Tekno> | I use songbird |
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| 20:08 | <chasingSol> | =/ |
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| 20:14 | <abrotman> | which ipod? |
| 20:14 | <chasingSol> | touch |
| 20:15 | <chasingSol> | firmware ver1.5 |
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| 20:37 | <navegation> | Hey guys i have an doubt, everytime i enter a folder, it opens a new "window". some of my files are in a folder that is on a folder .... |
| 20:37 | <navegation> | how can i enter in a folder in the same "window" |
| 20:37 | <navegation> | ? |
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| 20:39 | <acu> | I have a high definition camcorder (Canon HG20) - it creates .mts files however it seem that none of the players can play this files - what is the solution ? |
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| 20:40 | <abrotman> | navegation: google "nautilus spatial setting" |
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| 20:41 | <navegation> | ty |
| 20:42 | <navegation> | sometimes i right click and select "navigate" opition. Have a way to use it as default everytime i click a folder? |
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| 20:43 | <abrotman> | i just told you .. |
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| 20:44 | <navegation> | ty |
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| 20:51 | <witte> | if a card (raid controller in my case) works on normal i386 debian linux kernel, would it also work on a hppa linux? |
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| 20:52 | <abrotman> | witte: unknown, but you could download the package and look |
| 20:52 | <witte> | I mean, are the modules of the kernel on i386 and hppa of similar quality |
| 20:52 | <abrotman> | or at least have a good guess |
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| 20:53 | <witte> | abrotman: what do you mean with package, i meant the kernel stuff (modules etc). The software on hppa is similar to that on i386, i just wondered if the kernel is as complete |
| 20:54 | <abrotman> | it's not 100% the same ... |
| 20:54 | <abrotman> | do you know which module drives it? |
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| 20:55 | <witte> | abrotman: well, i am about to buy a raid controller for my hppa box (but just a cheap pci card) so i can make it my server |
| 20:55 | <abrotman> | oh |
| 20:55 | <abrotman> | cheap? pci? hardware raid ? |
| 20:55 | <abrotman> | but how do you know it works in linux at all? |
| 20:55 | <adb> | url ? |
| 20:56 | <witte> | abrotman: i was just wondering if i google linux <cardname> and it results in supported in linux would mean supported on hppa |
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| 20:56 | <abrotman> | witte: not always, but it's a reasonable guess |
| 20:57 | <tcsetattr> | "supported in linux" doesn't mean anything until you find out the name of the driver. when used by marketeers, "supported" can mean "there's an evil i386-only hack that will make it sort of work" |
| 20:57 | <witte> | abrotman: ok, that was what I was thinking/hoping |
| 20:57 | <abrotman> | witte: but it'd be smarter to know the model of the card .. and figure out which module makes it work |
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| 20:57 | <tcsetattr> | if the person who tells you it's supported can't tell you the name of the driver, they're scamming you |
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| 20:58 | <witte> | tcsetattr, abrotman: yeah sure, when i mean google says supported, i meant google says use module klsdfjl548 ;-) |
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| 20:59 | <witte> | i think i will just buy myself a promise card or so, but since hppa is not that well tested, i was not sure that the hppa modules for those cards are as easily useable... |
| 21:00 | <tcsetattr> | once you have the module name you can do a search on packages.debian.org (select the hppa arch) and see if it's there |
| 21:01 | <witte> | tcsetattr: I was more worried about kernel modules that are untested on that architecture |
| 21:01 | <abrotman> | witte: you can get the parisc kernel config easily enough if you're interested |
| 21:01 | <witte> | I just don't know how much difference there is in the kernel modules between architectures |
| 21:02 | <witte> | abrotman: I already have it |
| 21:02 | <witte> | :-) |
| 21:02 | <tcsetattr> | true, the presence of the module doesn't necessarily mean it's been tested. but if it's in the main kernel tree, odds are very good |
| 21:03 | <witte> | abrotman: I have a B2000 (400 MHz) machine in the basement which i will use as my fileserver |
| 21:04 | <abrotman> | witte: you must get free electricity :) |
| 21:05 | <witte> | but as scsi disks are too expensive for me to get a 1TB solution, i'll use sata disks, with a raid controller |
| 21:05 | <witte> | abrotman: that one has a normal power supply, i don't believe it eats that much energy (contrary to some other machines next to it :P) |
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| 21:05 | <Tarcas> | SATA in a 400 MHz box? Wow... |
| 21:06 | <Knorrie> | why not |
| 21:06 | <abrotman> | Tarcas: it's parisc .. not i386 |
| 21:06 | <Tarcas> | okay. Big difference. :-) |
| 21:06 | <witte> | Tarcas: well, sata is the cheapest, it does not has sata by default, but a pci card will solve it |
| 21:06 | <witte> | s/has/have |
| 21:06 | <Knorrie> | yes |
| 21:07 | <abrotman> | witte: doesn't the system already have a scsi raid controller ? |
| 21:07 | <Tarcas> | witte: this is true. I was just imagining the high throughput of SATA feeding a P II 400. :-D |
| 21:08 | <witte> | even if it does not get 100 % the speed, it will be faster than my ethernet connection, and I will use as fileserver (and probably also apache), so more than fast enough |
| 21:08 | <witte> | abrotman: I don't think so, it is a workstation, not a server |
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| 21:08 | <abrotman> | witte: and what? |
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| 21:09 | <Tarcas> | sounds like a plan. And like something I'd have considered for my own fileserver before I built my new server/router. |
| 21:10 | <witte> | abrotman: well, it could have one in theory, but I just don't think it has one |
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| 21:10 | <Tarcas> | 4 NICs, 4 500 GB SATA HDDs (RAID5) and a Celeron 420 CPU. Note, processor was not my primary objective here. |
| 21:10 | <witte> | abrotman: would it make a difference? |
| 21:10 | <abrotman> | witte: i'm not sure how old it is .. but lots of SPARC machines that were older had SCSI |
| 21:10 | <Knorrie> | raid5 sucks |
| 21:10 | <abrotman> | witte: you could attach an external scsi array :) |
| 21:10 | <Tarcas> | Knorrie: care to explain that assertion? |
| 21:10 | <abrotman> | !baarf |
| 21:10 | <abrotman> | !barrf |
| 21:10 | <abrotman> | bah .. google it |
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| 21:11 | <witte> | abrotman: it has scsi, but scsi is expensive and external scsi arrays also eat power :-) |
| 21:11 | <abrotman> | witte: you can get pretty cheap drives on ebay |
| 21:11 | <Knorrie> | Tarcas: it needs computation, better have raid10 (striping/mirroring etc) |
| 21:11 | <abrotman> | needing computation doesn't make it suck |
| 21:12 | <Tarcas> | My CPU is over 99% idle nearly 100% of the time. Not a concern. I'd rather have the additional 25% of physical drive space actually available. |
| 21:12 | <Tarcas> | RAID 10 loses you half of your physical space. |
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| 21:13 | <Knorrie> | yes it does |
| 21:13 | <abrotman> | can we just say that each raid level has its place .. and end this? |
| 21:14 | <Knorrie> | yes |
| 21:14 | <Knorrie> | sure |
| 21:14 | <Tarcas> | yes. |
| 21:15 | <Tarcas> | speaking of ending this, it's bedtime. I'm out. Have fun with your server, witte. |
| 21:15 | <Knorrie> | nn Tarcas |
| 21:15 | <witte> | It's 3:15 here as well, my server will have to wait until tomorrow ;-) |
| 21:15 | <Knorrie> | witte: 3:15am here as well, i should have a sleep now |
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| 21:16 | <psypher> | does anyone know about the scannertuner module that lets you use a tuner card as a radio scanner? |
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| 21:17 | <duraperidol> | good day |
| 21:17 | <witte> | thanks all for the help, I'll just order something which has good support on linux and an existing module in hppa and then hope for the best ;-) |
| 21:17 | <med> | hello |
| 21:17 | <duraperidol> | if there are any dd's here, do you know who made the lenny graphics hosted at http://debian.org ? |
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| 21:22 | <abrotman> | duraperidol: which ones? |
| 21:23 | <abrotman> | oh .. the big one :) |
| 21:24 | <debacle> | Hi all, i need suggestions. I've to deliver a Linux box to a customer. I'd like to use a crypted filesystem to avoid unautorized backup. The problem is that I do not want to leve the password on the disk. Is it possible to store the filesystem password in the kernel ?? |
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| 21:25 | <Knorrie> | the kernel is not on the disk? |
| 21:26 | <dr|z3d> | debacle: What about storing it on a separate usb key? |
| 21:27 | <Knorrie> | define 'unautorized backup' |
| 21:27 | <debacle> | Knorrie: yes it is !... but if i can integrate it via a patch or something you should be able to disassemble the kernel |
| 21:27 | <abrotman> | uhm .. once the filesystem is mounted? it's readable? |
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| 21:28 | <Knorrie> | debacle: if you store a passphrase into the kernel... I could find it? |
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| 21:29 | <debacle> | ok. My problem is that i do not want someone can grap my php files. I have to deliver the server and i'll have no way to monitor the situation. so someone can open the case. unmount the hd and manually copy the php files. |
| 21:29 | <Knorrie> | yes 'they' can |
| 21:30 | <abrotman> | debacle: there are ways to obfuscate php |
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| 21:30 | * | abrotman thinks it's called perl :) |
| 21:30 | <Knorrie> | heh |
| 21:31 | <debacle> | abrotman: i know ... but make code slower ... and can be unobfuscated ! |
| 21:31 | <abrotman> | debacle: try ##php on freenode .. ask them how you might encrypt or obfuscate your code |
| 21:31 | <abrotman> | debacle: oh ffs .. then horde all your code and be done with it |
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| 21:31 | <Knorrie> | or gpl it |
| 21:31 | <abrotman> | slower .. jeez .. running on a PII ? |
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| 21:32 | <debacle> | Knorrie: i agree with gpl ... it's my programmer do not agree. |
| 21:33 | <debacle> | abrotman: well it a xeon :-) |
| 21:33 | <simonrvn> | um, if it's being parsed, what's the effing problem? |
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| 21:33 | <Knorrie> | then make sure there are no others that have access to the box |
| 21:33 | <abrotman> | debacle: unless the code is awful or complex .. it should be fine |
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| 21:33 | <abrotman> | debacle: or look into the uh .. zend? server .. i think you can compile PHP for it |
| 21:34 | <simonrvn> | whomever is going to have any sort of shell access is either a cracker if it's not maintained, or someone that - bcompiler - that should have access. |
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| 21:34 | <simonrvn> | bcompiler will precompile the php file |
| 21:34 | <debacle> | Knorrie: i agree.... but it's not hard to broke a lock !!! |
| 21:34 | <asteroid> | maybe consider biometrics |
| 21:34 | <abrotman> | debacle: or go ask ##php :) |
| 21:34 | <simonrvn> | and you substitute it in place of the non-compiled one |
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| 21:35 | <debacle> | simonrvn: ok |
| 21:36 | <debacle> | a BIG thank to all people on this board helped me ! |
| 21:36 | <abrotman> | !board |
| 21:36 | <abrotman> | what .. no "CHANNEL!" ? |
| 21:37 | <debacle> | abrotman: ok sorry ... CHANNEL ! |
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| 21:37 | <simonrvn> | !board is <reply>CHANNEL! |
| 21:37 | <dpkg> | okay, simonrvn |
| 21:38 | <simonrvn> | &board is <reply>CHANNEL! |
| 21:38 | <ravenbird> | simonrvn: okay |
| 21:38 | <duraperidol> | abrotman: hello, any/all graphics used on http://debian.org, in particular, but not limited to other debian subdomains / pages / official debian affiliated sites |
| 21:38 | <duraperidol> | in particular, http://debian.org/Pics/lennybanner_indexed.png |
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| 21:41 | <abrotman> | duraperidol: i saw it somewhere, but can't find it now |
| 21:42 | <stew> | what about it? |
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| 21:43 | <abrotman> | he wanted to know who made it |
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| 21:46 | <stew> | http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2009/02/msg00200.html |
| 21:46 | <abrotman> | so not who i was thinking ... |
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| 21:49 | <duraperidol> | stew: Just what was needed, thank you |
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| 22:05 | <randu> | how do i determine my files video codec |
| 22:05 | <randu> | it doesnt play and i need to find out which it needs |
| 22:08 | <adb> | !players |
| 22:08 | <dpkg> | players are evil |
| 22:08 | <abrotman> | randu: file foo |
| 22:09 | <ddfire> | hi, plase some one can point me a good kde 4.2 how to? thanks |
| 22:09 | <ddfire> | a pdf or an url |
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| 22:13 | <adb> | try #kde on freenode |
| 22:13 | <abrotman> | ddfire: /msg dpkg kde4 |
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| 22:21 | <Efex> | Question: I have an intel processor and downloaded the i386 version of Debian to install on an unallocated part of my HDD. When I tried installing it, it said I should download the amd64 version. Why is that? |
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| 22:22 | <Nemoder> | Efex: amd64 is the arch for both intel and amd 64bit CPUs |
| 22:22 | <SquOnk> | Hi |
| 22:22 | <Efex> | Oh, so since I'm running a 64-bit processor, I should probably use the amd64 version, then? |
| 22:23 | <Ouroboros> | is it possible to push X11 over ssh tunnel from client to server? |
| 22:23 | <Nemoder> | i386 will work too, but may as well use amd64 |
| 22:23 | <Efex> | Nemoder: Thank you! |
| 22:23 | <SquOnk> | I haven't been able to update my local partial mirror (debmirror) since last sunday. No matter which mirror I choose, I always get errors stating that dists/sid/*/binary-*/Packages fails. Is it me, or is it something others have seen? |
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| 22:24 | <Nemoder> | Ouroboros: yes, at least I've done it before with x11vnc |
| 22:28 | <Ouroboros> | actually maybe i should just do it the normal way around |
| 22:28 | <abrotman> | !sshx |
| 22:28 | <dpkg> | extra, extra, read all about it, sshx is You can run X11 apps over an ssh connection so that neither <xhost> nor X tcp support are necessary. Enable X11Forwarding *on the remote server* (/etc/ssh/sshd_config) and install xbase-clients (etch) or xauth (lenny) on both the client and the server. Then "ssh -X" from the client and run X apps on the remote machine. Authorisation is only given to your remote user to connect and $DISPLAY is set. Also ask me ... |
| 22:29 | <Ouroboros> | abrotman: yeah i know that one, my original question was for running windows on the local side and pushing them to the remote server |
| 22:29 | <Ouroboros> | but maybe that is stupid |
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| 22:35 | <adb> | SquOnk: add to the command " --ignore-missing-release" |
| 22:35 | <SquOnk> | adb: Is there :-/ |
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| 22:35 | <adb> | hmm |
| 22:36 | <SquOnk> | adb: I've tried ftp.ch.debian.org, ftp.au.debian.org and http.us.debian.org |
| 22:36 | <SquOnk> | adb: ...then I tried random mirrors. This has been happening since Sunday. |
| 22:36 | <SquOnk> | adb: The Lenny and Etch part work fine, only Sid is giving me grief :-/ |
| 22:36 | <adb> | i see |
| 22:38 | <SquOnk> | adb: I'm trying again just now using ftp.ch.debian.org |
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| 22:41 | <Diablo999> | anyone online who can help little stupid me |
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| 22:41 | <abrotman> | ask your real question |
| 22:42 | <Diablo999> | I was stupid enough to delete sources.list by a mistake :( |
| 22:42 | <asteroid> | ty for the information, seeyah later people |
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| 22:43 | <Diablo999> | how can I recover it? |
| 22:43 | <dr|z3d> | Diablo999: You should have a sources.list.old or similar, I think. Try taking a copy from there and restoring. |
| 22:43 | <abrotman> | Diablo999: make a new one |
| 22:44 | <Diablo999> | I have a sources.list~, but it's empty |
| 22:44 | <abrotman> | Diablo999: which version of debian ? |
| 22:44 | <Diablo999> | lenny |
| 22:44 | <dr|z3d> | Diablo999: Try: locate sources.list |
| 22:44 | <dr|z3d> | Maybe you have sources.list.save or similar. |
| 22:45 | <Ouroboros> | with ssh -X, how does the local side know on which desktop to put the window? |
| 22:45 | <abrotman> | deb http://ftp.dk.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free |
| 22:45 | <abrotman> | deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free |
| 22:45 | <abrotman> | if you want contrib/non-free |
| 22:46 | <Diablo999> | so just add these 2 links in sources.list? |
| 22:47 | <Diablo999> | thx |
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| 22:49 | <Diablo999> | which mailserver shall I choose, that's as easy as possible to install and setup? |
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| 22:51 | <abrotman> | exim or postfix |
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| 22:52 | <SquOnk> | adb: I think I've pinpointed the problem. It's some weird interaction betwen the pdiffs and debmirror's .temp files |
| 22:52 | <SquOnk> | adb: I removed the .temp directory and it seems to be working fine so far |
| 22:52 | <adb> | i do that every time ... |
| 22:53 | <Diablo999> | abrotman - thx for all your help..I'll try to take a look at it |
| 22:53 | <Diablo999> | see ya |
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| 22:56 | <SquOnk> | adb: Nah... did not work :-/ |
| 22:56 | <adb> | SquOnk: here and now it work . what command you use |
| 22:56 | <adb> | ? |
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| 22:57 | <SquOnk> | adb: Where do I paste it? |
| 22:58 | <adb> | mine is : debmirror --progress --nosource -d sid -d testing -s main -a i386 --nocleanup --ignore-missing-release --ignore-release-gpg -h ftp.ch.debian.org mirror |
| 22:58 | <SquOnk> | adb: http://paste.debian.net/29251/ |
| 22:59 | <SquOnk> | adb: I've changed HOST several times. debian.velug.org.ve is a full mirror built with anonftpsync so is up to date |
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| 22:59 | <adb> | ok |
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| 23:00 | <SquOnk> | adb: The last run only gave errors on squeezy, so I've removed and am trying again |
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| 23:01 | <adb> | i used 2 days ago testing no squeezy , and was ok |
| 23:01 | <SquOnk> | adb: Let's see what happens |
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| 23:10 | <Ouroboros> | any smarter way to do this: foo# ssh -n bar "export DISPLAY=:1.0; ssh -X -Y foo something" & |
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| 23:14 | <ike> | should /proc take 850 megs? |
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| 23:14 | <Ouroboros> | prog doesnt take anything, it is kernel exported parameters... |
| 23:14 | <Ouroboros> | s/prog/proc |
| 23:14 | <ike> | 931131392 2009-02-26 05:19 kcore |
| 23:16 | <ike> | hm |
| 23:16 | <t_> | lol |
| 23:16 | <adb> | or 1019676k here |
| 23:16 | <t_> | that erm, looks bad |
| 23:16 | <ike> | where is these 880 megs of kcore coming from then |
| 23:16 | <ike> | that cant be good no :D |
| 23:16 | <Ouroboros> | ike: /proc/kcore is the RAM |
| 23:16 | <ike> | why is it in proc? |
| 23:17 | <ike> | saved? |
| 23:17 | <ike> | a dump? |
| 23:17 | <Ouroboros> | ... |
| 23:17 | <Ouroboros> | as i said, /proc doesnt really exist, it is a kernel interface |
| 23:17 | <Ouroboros> | its size on disk is 0 |
| 23:18 | <adb> | kind of ramdisk size |
| 23:18 | <ike> | ah |
| 23:18 | <Nemoder> | Ouroboros: when I used x11vnc on the server I tunneled to it like this: ssh -t -L 5900:localhost:5900 user@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 'x11vnc' |
| 23:18 | <Nemoder> | Ouroboros: then just connect vncviewer to localhost |
| 23:19 | <Ouroboros> | hm |
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| 23:22 | <Ouroboros> | ike: i am not sure what the purpose of /proc/kcore is (perhaps you can read/write the RAM directly), but you will find lots of useful stuff in /proc |
| 23:22 | <ike> | yep that i know |
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| 23:22 | <ike> | cpu info etc |
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| 23:22 | <ike> | disk stuff |
| 23:23 | <ike> | you name it |
| 23:23 | <ike> | 1.4 gigs of libs ;\ |
| 23:23 | <ike> | im running out of space |
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| 23:24 | <Ouroboros> | :/ how bis is your drive |
| 23:24 | <ike> | 18 gigs, my main disk took a dump, so im back to ata33 |
| 23:24 | <ike> | been here for a while |
| 23:24 | <ike> | always seem to find an excuse to spend money on other stuff then a hd ... |
| 23:25 | <Ouroboros> | yeah i was like that, then i dumped like $800 on an array |
| 23:25 | <Ouroboros> | living much better now :) |
| 23:25 | <ike> | hehe i bet |
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| 23:26 | <ike> | how do i get my debian installs this big |
| 23:26 | <ike> | i swear to keep them minimal each time |
| 23:27 | <adb> | just a floppy size ? ;) |
| 23:28 | <Ouroboros> | 18 gigs is pretty large, mine are usually < 4 gig |
| 23:28 | <Ouroboros> | for full desktop installs i mean |
| 23:28 | <Ouroboros> | obviously you can go much lower |
| 23:28 | <ike> | adb, i cant seem to fit the kernel on a floppy these days ;) |
| 23:29 | <ranix> | sarge still installs via floppy |
| 23:29 | <ranix> | etch might, but I think it needs 16k of ram |
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| 23:35 | <ranix> | m not k |
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| 23:36 | <SquOnk> | adb: It's been working so far. I have to catch some z's so I'll check later. I believe is the .temp dir along with having squeezy in the list to mirror. |
| 23:36 | <SquOnk> | adb: Thanks |
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| 23:55 | <JayBoCC2> | Hello |
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| 23:56 | <johnfg> | hi guys |
| 23:56 | <JayBoCC2> | anybody that can help me out with a fresh install of lenny, i can't seem to SSH in... i always get "connection refused" |
| 23:57 | <JayBoCC2> | does a bare install of lenny have firewall installed by default now? |
| 23:57 | <johnfg> | Today I installed ntp, started the service after selecting some servers, but the time/date still isn't getting synchronized. What's up with this? |
| 23:57 | <adb> | JayBoCC2: is installed ssh? |
| 23:57 | <JayBoCC2> | yes |
| 23:58 | <adb> | ping is ok |
| 23:58 | <JayBoCC2> | configured to listen on port 22 and the local ip |
| 23:58 | <JayBoCC2> | yes |
| 23:59 | <adb> | touched the -default -firewall ? |
| 23:59 | <JayBoCC2> | nope |
| 23:59 | <JayBoCC2> | i like to do things from the comfort of my laptop, instead of standing in front of my rack |
| 23:59 | <JayBoCC2> | lol |
| 23:59 | <JayBoCC2> | so ssh is first thing i go to setup |
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