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| 02:21 | <kevin> | hello, everybody |
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| 03:03 | <bugil> | \kawanua |
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| 03:10 | <morgan`> | hi |
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| 04:18 | <lkh> | when my system boot sometimes (every 15th time or so) there is a file system check. how can I switch this off, or change the frequency? |
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| 04:22 | <Shadowdancer> | lkh: you can set the number of mounts or days between checks by the proper FS tool, e.g. tune2fs for ext2/3 |
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| 04:27 | <lkh> | Shadowdancer, thanx. this helped. |
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| 04:42 | <EmleyMoor> | When is zaptel-source patched to build against 2.6.26 going to come into lenny? |
| 04:42 | <EmleyMoor> | (bug 493397) |
| 04:46 | <Shadowdancer> | you mean the thing that's apparently been renamed to dahdi? |
| 04:46 | <EmleyMoor> | It will be dahdi in that which follows lenny |
| 04:48 | <Shadowdancer> | artefact: still running :-) (and good morning) |
| 04:49 | <artefact> | Shadowdancer: _good_ morning, yes, still working for me :-) |
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| 04:49 | <artefact> | Thank you |
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| 04:52 | <EmleyMoor> | The bug is "Pending upload" and "serious" |
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| 04:58 | <padski> | are we there yet? ;-) |
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| 04:59 | <EmleyMoor> | I heard someone say they were running "letch" the other day - etch with quite a lot of backports from lenny is what they actually meant |
| 04:59 | <padski> | heh |
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| 05:04 | <EmleyMoor> | I suppose if I want to put up some patched packages, I would need to get adept at patching the source at least |
| 05:04 | <Shadowdancer> | a.k.a. "testing with old stuff"? |
| 05:04 | <themill> | EmleyMoor: that's not a bad way of putting it.... |
| 05:04 | * | themill is running etchnhalf + far too many backports to be sane.... |
| 05:05 | <Shadowdancer> | backporting is mostly running dpkg-buildpackage on newer sources... |
| 05:05 | <EmleyMoor> | I'm not on stable on anything at the moment |
| 05:05 | <Shadowdancer> | I usually start at testing and pull in stuff from unstable and experimental as needed |
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| 05:06 | <Shadowdancer> | it is in my experience a lot less error-prone to be on that constant upgrade path instead of doing a huge upgrade at releases |
| 05:06 | <themill> | !moving target |
| 05:06 | <dpkg> | Sure, testing might be shiner that stable, but are you prepared to be continually updating your system? Things that worked today will break tomorrow. Config file formats will change and you'll have to fold your changes in yet again. Testing is a moving target and if you'd rather work *with* your computer rather than working *on* your computer, you might not want that. |
| 05:07 | <themill> | Shadowdancer: to each their own, but that's not my preferred way of working |
| 05:07 | <benjamin> | Hi, I have some really weird problems with my Debian after upgrading from 2Go to 3Go of RAM. Is this a known problem? |
| 05:07 | <Shadowdancer> | benjamin: define weird |
| 05:08 | <EmleyMoor> | I prefer to be on stable on machines where everything I want to do works with it, except near release when I often go testing, and testing where needed to make stuff work |
| 05:08 | <Shadowdancer> | TBH, I haven't really seen huge config issues, and I have an installation that's dating back to potato |
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| 05:09 | <EmleyMoor> | Shadowdancer: I am not sure what's left of mine now - probably still some hints of potato (or maybe even slink!) in it |
| 05:09 | <benjamin> | Shadowdancer, i can't run eclipse, i can run firefox and go to pastebin but not see my post on pastebin because firefox fails, gdm fails to start sometimes... |
| 05:10 | <EmleyMoor> | Are you sure the extra RAM you added is working properly? |
| 05:10 | <benjamin> | EmleyMoor, is there a way to test it? |
| 05:10 | <slush> | benjamin: did you verify that the extra ram is recognized ? |
| 05:10 | <benjamin> | slush, it is |
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| 05:11 | <EmleyMoor> | benjamin: There are tests possible but none seems to be as exhaustive as using it practically |
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| 05:12 | <slush> | you could use memtest86 |
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| 05:21 | <RichiH> | is there a way to onlu us pdiffs if the last sync is less than X days in the past? |
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| 05:24 | <benjamin> | where can i find firefox logs? |
| 05:24 | <themill> | RichiH: that would be a very nice feature... (in response to the recent discussion about the usefulness of pdiffs) |
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| 05:27 | <RichiH> | themill: yes, ganneff's post (and a recent reinstall where i forgot to switch them off) reminded me of that idea.. |
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| 05:33 | <Shadowdancer> | benjamin: install the memtest86+ package. You will get a new option in Grub/LILO (whatever you're using). Let it run for one or two passes and see if errors come up. It's likely that you'll have to manually set some parameters in the BIOS setup. |
| 05:34 | <themill> | RichiH: see #372712, btw |
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| 05:37 | <Shadowdancer> | EmleyMoor: right now, I'm running a testing installation with a user directory from Ubuntu 6.06. I still haven't found a way to make KMail show a notification for new mails, since there appears to be some stuck setting. But that's only a user configuration issue. |
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| 05:39 | <themill> | Shadowdancer: for kmail, Settings -> Notifications -> Advanced -> I have a sound + passive popup + mark taskbar. BTW kmail from backports.org has significant improvements over that in etch (but you are using lenny anyway, I guess) |
| 05:39 | <Shadowdancer> | I think I have most of the kdepim stuff from unstable |
| 05:40 | <Shadowdancer> | but testing is very close to unstable most of the time when it comes to KDE |
| 05:40 | <Shadowdancer> | it's gonna get nasty for me once KDE4.x hits unstable |
| 05:41 | <themill> | yes.. that's going to be ugly |
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| 05:42 | <Shadowdancer> | GAH! Just found it, KMail needs to have its systray icon enabled separately |
| 05:42 | * | Shadowdancer disables notification on the spam folders |
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| 05:43 | <themill> | Shadowdancer: If you do mailing list management you might want to do them too... |
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| 05:44 | <Shadowdancer> | I was on d-u for a while, but I severely cut back on my maillist consumption. |
| 05:44 | <Shadowdancer> | currently I'm just CC on some KDE, Mozilla, and Kernel bugs |
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| 05:45 | <Shadowdancer> | back on d-u I was pretty much forced to use sylpheed-claws, since all other clients would just die when facing that mailbox with >50k mails :-D |
| 05:46 | <Shadowdancer> | looking for another mail client was quite entertaining. I managed to kill Evolution by importing an LDIF addressbook. Had to delete the config after that, or it wouldn't even start anymore. |
| 05:47 | <themill> | Shadowdancer: kmail seems to handle mailboxes that large. (I use maildir format for the mailboxes) |
| 05:47 | <Shadowdancer> | kmail has issues e.g. when deleting large amounts of mails, since it seems to refresh the list after every mail. |
| 05:47 | <Shadowdancer> | I have all my stuff in IMAP accounts |
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| 05:48 | <Shadowdancer> | well, now I do. Back then it was all local |
| 05:48 | <centrodia> | kie13 |
| 05:48 | <Shadowdancer> | but now I can clean the spam folders on the mailserver with find -ctime :-D |
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| 05:49 | <themill> | heh nice |
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| 05:53 | <Shadowdancer> | *something* is dead on this box though. chrony doesn't react to chronyc anymore. |
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| 05:57 | <jarko> | hola tu |
| 05:57 | <jarko> | eres |
| 05:57 | <jarko> | el |
| 05:57 | <jarko> | sebas |
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| 05:57 | <jarko> | del |
| 05:57 | <jarko> | colegio |
| 05:57 | <jarko> | seneca |
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| 06:51 | <raveforever> | hello! |
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| 06:52 | <raveforever> | what room should I join to to solve my question about installing Debian from SATA DVD drive? |
| 06:52 | <variable> | here ;] |
| 06:52 | <raveforever> | OK! |
| 06:52 | <variable> | but i can't help you |
| 06:52 | <weasel> | variable: how would you know, he didn't ask a question yet |
| 06:53 | <variable> | he asked it |
| 06:53 | <variable> | it's you didn't see it |
| 06:53 | <weasel> | he didn't. |
| 06:53 | <variable> | ;] |
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| 06:53 | <raveforever> | the trouble is in support SATA drive at the installing stage |
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| 06:55 | <raveforever> | I want to know, is there an ability to install debian 4.0 r4 from sata dvd drive or not? |
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| 06:56 | <raveforever> | I am from Russia, my English is quite poor ;-) |
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| 06:56 | <buffoon_work> | hi! when i use the command "trickle -d 150 apt-get dist-upgrade" I get 100% CPU usage and download is getting painfully slow. trickled is started. Any suggestions? |
| 06:56 | <weasel> | I would suspect that shouldn't be a problem |
| 06:57 | <weasel> | I cannot remember if I installed debian on the new desktops at work using a cd or tftp, but it might have been a cd |
| 06:57 | <weasel> | buffoon_work: trickle isn't all that smart. |
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| 06:57 | <weasel> | buffoon_work: probably apt-get --print-uris dist-upgrade, and then using wget with --limit-rate would work better |
| 06:58 | <raveforever> | ok, I'll try |
| 06:58 | <buffoon_work> | can i pipe that in some manner? |
| 06:58 | <buffoon_work> | well, i'll try it with xargs... |
| 06:58 | <Shadowdancer> | now that's fun... chrony stopped working |
| 06:58 | <weasel> | I'd redirect the apt-get output to a file, |
| 06:58 | <weasel> | then clean it up in an editor and use that as input for wget |
| 06:59 | <stevecotton> | buffoon_work: wget has an option to read URLs from a file |
| 06:59 | <weasel> | chrony sucks anyway. ntp ftw |
| 06:59 | <Shadowdancer> | uhm... ntp doesn't do fun stuff like ensuring widesense increasing time |
| 07:00 | <weasel> | uhm. |
| 07:00 | <weasel> | wrong? |
| 07:00 | <Shadowdancer> | are you talking about ntpdate? |
| 07:00 | <weasel> | hell no |
| 07:00 | <Shadowdancer> | good |
| 07:00 | <Shadowdancer> | what then? |
| 07:00 | <weasel> | ntp. |
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| 07:03 | <Shadowdancer> | still a bit weird that chrony broke sometime over the last few weeks |
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| 07:06 | <buffoon_work> | btw, why isn't there any option for apt-get for managing bandwidth? Downloading with wget now btw |
| 07:06 | <Shadowdancer> | the daemon just hangs... I purged the package, but on installation, it just hangs when running the init script |
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| 07:24 | <Shadowdancer> | oh well, so ntp it is :-) |
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| 07:25 | <Shadowdancer> | buffoon_work: what do you mean "managing bandwidth"? Do you want throttling or something? |
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| 07:26 | <chandu_> | hi |
| 07:26 | <chandu_> | How does the unsetting of these kernel-parametes affect , CONFIG_PM_LEGACY, CONFIG_ACPI_FAN, CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR, CONFIG_ACPI_CONTAINER, CONFIG_CPU_FREQ |
| 07:26 | <chandu_> | I want to make sure ..unsetting of these doesnot lead to any other side effects |
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| 07:27 | <Shadowdancer> | there are so many interdependencies, especially for ACPI parameters, that it's pretty hard to predict what would happen. |
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| 07:28 | <chandu_> | Shadowdancer, ok |
| 07:29 | <chandu_> | Shadowdancer, where can I get more info on these |
| 07:29 | <simplechat> | hey, i've just tried to install debian 4.0 on a core 2 computer, its saying that it can't mount or detect the cdrom drive. How can it be running off the cdrom drive if it can't detect itself? |
| 07:29 | <Shadowdancer> | try the help in the config frontends |
| 07:29 | <simplechat> | (note, this computer is currently working nicely using ubuntu) |
| 07:29 | <ubirajara> | @dance music |
| 07:30 | <simplechat> | what would be doing that? |
| 07:30 | <chandu_> | Shadowdancer, ok |
| 07:31 | <simplechat> | its a normal sata cdrom drive, a generic |
| 07:31 | <simplechat> | how do i get it to load properly? |
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| 07:33 | <themill> | simplechat: perhaps try the etchnhalf installer with the 2.6.24 kernel. /msg dpkg etchnhalf |
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| 07:33 | <simplechat> | its also not finding an ethernet card? |
| 07:33 | <simplechat> | wt? |
| 07:34 | <simplechat> | i'll try that installer |
| 07:35 | <simplechat> | themill, where do i find the installer? |
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| 07:37 | <themill> | simplechat: did you ask dpkg about etchnhalf? |
| 07:37 | <simplechat> | <dpkg> I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 07:37 | <simplechat> | ah, don't worry, mistyped |
| 07:40 | <Shadowdancer> | I'm getting permanent slight harddisk and CPU activity. Now to find the culprit :-( |
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| 07:50 | <Shadowdancer> | hmmm. nice. |
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| 07:52 | <Shadowdancer> | I'm getting a lot of activity from su when KDE is running... Any idea what may cause it? /var/log/auth.log gets stuffed with that: http://debian.pastebin.com/d2bfdd76 |
| 07:52 | <Shadowdancer> | about once per second |
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| 07:56 | <chattr> | Shadowdancer: iotop watches disk activity |
| 07:57 | <Shadowdancer> | chattr: I'm more interested why something with root privileges su's to my user once per second |
| 07:57 | <Shadowdancer> | it's stopped now |
| 07:57 | <chattr> | k |
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| 07:57 | <Shadowdancer> | but thanks |
| 07:57 | <chattr> | np |
| 07:58 | <Shadowdancer> | it doesn't seem to be a rare thing to happen |
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| 07:59 | <interpolfan> | Why is there no libvnc.so in Lenny? |
| 07:59 | <douglas> | hello how do you change keyboards in the CLI live, without a sign in/sign out. Is there an app or something |
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| 08:00 | <douglas> | I need to change between us AND german and dvorak. |
| 08:02 | <stevecotton> | interpolfan: package xrdp has taken the name |
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| 08:07 | <interpolfan> | stevecotton: What do you mean? I thought, xrdp is an implementation of the RDP protocol. Do I have to install xrdp to get libvnc.so? |
| 08:07 | <themill> | !wayttd interpolfan |
| 08:07 | <dpkg> | What Are You Trying To Do, interpolfan? |
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| 08:09 | <interpolfan> | I want to use libvnc.so as it is decribed here: http://www.realvnc.com/products/free/4.1/x0.html#vncso |
| 08:10 | <interpolfan> | In Etch there is libvnc.so in the package vnc4server, but not in Lenny anymore. |
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| 08:11 | <themill> | interpolfan: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/v/vnc4/vnc4_4.1.1+X4.3.0-30/changelog#versionversion4.1.1_X4.3.0-22 |
| 08:12 | <buffoon_work> | Shadowdancer, yep, i meant throttling the bandwidth... something like apt-get --max_download_rate 150k dist-upgrade |
| 08:13 | <interpolfan> | Thank you. |
| 08:13 | <buffoon_work> | would be very cool to have here... i'm the only one using testing in the office and everytime when i make an upgrade rdp (for managing remote win servers) get slowed down a lot... |
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| 08:14 | <themill> | interpolfan: no worries... sorry I couldn't be the bearer of better news. But look at some of the alternatives suggested in bug #444697 |
| 08:15 | <themill> | interpolfan: btw I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish with vnc here, but also look at synergy, x2x or x11vnc for other things that provide similar functionality. |
| 08:15 | <Shadowdancer> | buffoon_work: strictly speaking, you should implement policing/shaping at a lower level to prioritize RDP traffic |
| 08:16 | <interpolfan> | x11vnc ist very slow, I also tried vino and krfb, which are even more slow. |
| 08:16 | <Shadowdancer> | I would suggest looking at the LARTC HOWTO, but that's probably too much hassle for what you want ;-) |
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| 08:21 | <douglas> | I need to change between us AND german and dvorak kezboards. How can you do this on the command line for the command line? |
| 08:21 | <themill> | !keymap |
| 08:21 | <dpkg> | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap", or ask me about <set up x> or <drxx> or use kcontrol, gnome-control-center or similar. For setting up X keymaps, also check out xkeycaps and xev, or ask me about <multimedia keys>. In console you can also use "loadkeys" for once-only/temporary adjustments. |
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| 08:23 | <douglas> | Yes thanks but I want to switch it every 5 minutes or less throwout the day. |
| 08:25 | <themill> | douglas: so use loadkeys as dpkg suggested. Create yourself some aliases to make the arguments easier to type. |
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| 08:36 | <simplechat> | hey |
| 08:36 | <simplechat> | themill, just tried etchandahalf, still failed to detect the cdrom |
| 08:36 | <themill> | :( |
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| 08:40 | <themill> | simplechat: perhaps of use at this stage: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/i386/ch05s03.html.en |
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| 08:45 | <interpolfan> | Ok, I just tried Xvnc in Lenny and it just works fine, it's quite as fast as sitting in front of the remote machine. So I will use Xvnc instead of libvnc.so :) |
| 08:45 | <Shadowdancer> | looks like atieventsd is farking around with su |
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| 08:48 | <Shadowdancer> | http://debian.pastebin.com/d8a7e4a6 |
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| 08:50 | <arlindo> | ola |
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| 08:53 | <MrDigimon> | im back again.... |
| 08:53 | <MrDigimon> | same problem...drivers wont work, wanna get my ati radeon x1550 to work with 3d acc |
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| 08:54 | <MrDigimon> | fglrx should have support but isnt working, just some black screen |
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| 08:55 | <Shadowdancer> | I suppose you already checked (and pasted) the relevant parts of the Xorg.0.log? |
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| 08:55 | <MrDigimon> | cant find that damn log file |
| 08:55 | <MrDigimon> | everytime i check for it its gone |
| 08:56 | <Shadowdancer> | /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 08:57 | <Shadowdancer> | /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old maybe |
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| 08:57 | <MrDigimon> | checking... |
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| 08:59 | <MrDigimon> | cant find anything about fglrx in that log... |
| 08:59 | <padski> | I'm trying to get lenny's xorg working on an ancient sony pcg-9401. lspci says it has a "Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/i7d (rev 5d)". I've tried dpkg-reconfigure with and without the framebuffer. help! |
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| 09:00 | <MrDigimon> | should i restart the system and run fglrx and switch back to vesa and paste it in some pastebin? |
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| 09:02 | <MrDigimon> | brb |
| 09:02 | <mson> | qwe |
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| 09:18 | <hahnp> | hi |
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| 09:26 | <MrDigimon> | xorg.0.log shows NOTHING, itäs like the computer freezes just when its about to load |
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| 09:27 | <Vyrk> | Hello |
| 09:27 | <Vyrk> | anybody can help me with a starting problem? |
| 09:28 | <hahnp> | what is the problem? |
| 09:28 | <Vyrk> | that was fast... |
| 09:28 | <Vyrk> | calm down, i will start de distro right now. |
| 09:28 | <MrDigimon> | :P |
| 09:28 | <MrDigimon> | even i didnt get answer that fast :P |
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| 09:29 | <Vyrk> | wuahaha xD |
| 09:29 | <hahnp> | yes but you can just tell your problem and maybe anybody will reakt |
| 09:29 | <hahnp> | react |
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| 09:29 | <Vyrk> | ok, i have already install the kernel |
| 09:29 | <Vyrk> | now, im starting the grub |
| 09:29 | <Vyrk> | ya, computing a lot... |
| 09:30 | <Vyrk> | a lot... |
| 09:30 | <Vyrk> | and then, stops... |
| 09:30 | <MrDigimon> | and the error is? |
| 09:31 | <Vyrk> | stops on: EIP: [...] smpc_apic_timer_interupt ... |
| 09:31 | <MrDigimon> | i have no fucking idea what that is |
| 09:31 | <Vyrk> | i have never see it before. |
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| 09:31 | <Vyrk> | wuahahaha xD, that was fast... |
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| 09:31 | <MrDigimon> | hey, some ppl got no life around here :P |
| 09:32 | <Shadowdancer> | there should be a stacktrace at the end... what does that go through? |
| 09:32 | <Vyrk> | well, see if i restart, the error changes. xD |
| 09:32 | <MrDigimon> | w..t...f... |
| 09:32 | <Vyrk> | restarting... |
| 09:32 | <Vyrk> | stacktrace? |
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| 09:33 | <Shadowdancer> | something like that: http://debian.pastebin.com/d10a4bf2b |
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| 09:33 | <Vyrk> | now says the same: and right down: "Dnote: exited preempt count 2 |
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| 09:33 | <MrDigimon> | anyone got any ideas about my graph card? im getting a little frustrated over here? |
| 09:34 | <hahnp> | MrDigimon, wats the problem? |
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| 09:34 | <hahnp> | do you have any error messages |
| 09:34 | <Shadowdancer> | does dmesg say anything about the kernel module? And just paste the complete Xorg.0.log |
| 09:34 | <MrDigimon> | my x1550 card wont start with fglrx, xorg.0.log shows nothing |
| 09:34 | <MrDigimon> | NOTHING |
| 09:35 | <MrDigimon> | its like it freezes when its about to start |
| 09:35 | <Shadowdancer> | paste *both*. |
| 09:35 | <Vyrk> | emmm... |
| 09:35 | <hahnp> | did you configure your xorg.conf? |
| 09:35 | <Vyrk> | too much problems u_u |
| 09:35 | <Shadowdancer> | does the system freeze solid, or can you still kill the black screen or login over ssh? |
| 09:35 | <MrDigimon> | frozen solid |
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| 09:35 | <Shadowdancer> | cool |
| 09:35 | <MrDigimon> | copletely |
| 09:36 | <MrDigimon> | *completely |
| 09:36 | <Vyrk> | anybody can tell what should i do? |
| 09:36 | <Vyrk> | i think on install again... |
| 09:36 | <Shadowdancer> | try to make it run with the Xorg radeon driver to see if that works |
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| 09:36 | <MrDigimon> | package name? |
| 09:36 | <MrDigimon> | so i can install via apt-get |
| 09:36 | <Shadowdancer> | Vyrk: try starting with the noapic kernel option |
| 09:37 | <hahnp> | you can also try to reconfigure the xserver-xorg package |
| 09:37 | <Vyrk> | thanks |
| 09:37 | <Shadowdancer> | xserver-xorg-video-radeon |
| 09:37 | <MrDigimon> | thx |
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| 09:37 | <Shadowdancer> | let me paste the section from the conf |
| 09:37 | <MrDigimon> | couldnt find package |
| 09:37 | <MrDigimon> | downloading from debian.org |
| 09:38 | <MrDigimon> | i ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to put in fglrx |
| 09:38 | <hahnp> | yes |
| 09:38 | <MrDigimon> | ive tried aticonfig --initial -f too |
| 09:38 | <MrDigimon> | same black screen |
| 09:39 | <hahnp> | did it work correctly sometime before? |
| 09:39 | <Shadowdancer> | http://debian.pastebin.com/d177a0fd2 |
| 09:39 | <Shadowdancer> | are you on etch os some other relic of past times? |
| 09:39 | <Shadowdancer> | s/os/or/ |
| 09:39 | <MrDigimon> | etch |
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| 09:39 | <MrDigimon> | have never worked with fglrx |
| 09:40 | <MrDigimon> | new card |
| 09:40 | <hahnp> | was the card initialized correctly? |
| 09:40 | <hahnp> | dmesg? |
| 09:40 | <Shadowdancer> | OK, the drivers aren't in etch |
| 09:40 | <themill> | MrDigimon: how new is this card? Do you know if it is supported by the fglrx drivers in etch? |
| 09:41 | <MrDigimon> | i dont know how new |
| 09:41 | <MrDigimon> | but fglrx DO support it |
| 09:41 | <MrDigimon> | at least its chipset |
| 09:41 | <Vyrk> | shadowdancer, only write noapic at the end of the kernel line in the grub? |
| 09:41 | <Shadowdancer> | Vyrk: yep |
| 09:41 | <themill> | MrDigimon: what chipset? compare with http://packages.debian.org/etch/fglrx-driver |
| 09:41 | <Vyrk> | thanks again} |
| 09:42 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 360] by debhelper |
| 09:42 | <MrDigimon> | wait, i have the package |
| 09:42 | <Vyrk> | it is runinng... |
| 09:42 | <MrDigimon> | RV515, should be x1300 drivers to it |
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| 09:42 | <Vyrk> | again, stops in the same |
| 09:42 | <Vyrk> | smp apic timer interrut |
| 09:43 | <hahnp> | Vyrk, show your xorg.conf |
| 09:43 | <Shadowdancer> | hahnp: wrong person :-P |
| 09:43 | <hahnp> | yes :D |
| 09:43 | <hahnp> | :D |
| 09:44 | <Vyrk> | how can i do that from grub? |
| 09:44 | <Shadowdancer> | Vyrk: ignore that ;-) |
| 09:44 | <MrDigimon> | brb, gonna go eat FAST |
| 09:44 | <MrDigimon> | ill be back as soon as i can |
| 09:44 | <Shadowdancer> | what kernel version is that? |
| 09:45 | <Shadowdancer> | and on what system? |
| 09:45 | <Vyrk> | emmm... the debian 4.0 |
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| 09:45 | <Shadowdancer> | you could try the options "noapic" and "nosmp" to check if it at least boots then |
| 09:45 | <Shadowdancer> | hardware? |
| 09:45 | <Vyrk> | ok... |
| 09:46 | <Vyrk> | emmm, i386 architecture |
| 09:46 | <Vyrk> | ok, i will try the nosmp option in the grub |
| 09:46 | <Vyrk> | let´s see |
| 09:47 | <Vyrk> | acpi compilant bios |
| 09:47 | <douglas> | \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ |
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| 09:48 | <Vyrk> | well... with the nosmp it stops in other place, this can be a progress, no? |
| 09:48 | <Vyrk> | calm... its alive |
| 09:49 | <Vyrk> | hda: lost interrupt xDD! |
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| 09:50 | <Vyrk> | well. finally hda: lost interrupt |
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| 09:50 | <Vyrk> | no! |
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| 09:50 | <Vyrk> | xD!, still alive!!! |
| 09:50 | <Shadowdancer> | is that by chance a laptop? |
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| 09:51 | <Vyrk> | no... |
| 09:52 | <Vyrk> | it´s a emmmm... computer |
| 09:52 | <Vyrk> | "ordenateur" |
| 09:52 | <Vyrk> | intel PiV |
| 09:52 | <Vyrk> | i dont know, a simple, 2004 PC |
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| 09:53 | <Vyrk> | well, with the nosmp option its moving ahead.. |
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| 09:53 | <MrDigimon> | im back now |
| 09:53 | <Vyrk> | i don´t know to where, but its moving slowly on the hda y hdb cheking |
| 09:53 | <Vyrk> | you eat fast mr trigimon |
| 09:54 | <Vyrk> | it stop finally |
| 09:54 | <Vyrk> | it show me and ALERT! message |
| 09:54 | <MrDigimon> | i wanna have help so i ate as fast as i could |
| 09:55 | <Vyrk> | AlerT! dev/hda2 does not exist. Dropping to a shell. |
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| 09:55 | <Vyrk> | emm... the second partition on the hda is the ext3... |
| 09:55 | <MrDigimon> | did anyone have any more ideas that i could try? |
| 09:56 | <MrDigimon> | you asked something about support before i left |
| 09:56 | <Vyrk> | i fell like a virus, or something like that |
| 09:56 | <Vyrk> | only draining your help |
| 09:56 | <Vyrk> | i will start loking arroung on google |
| 09:57 | <MrDigimon> | google doesnt have help for my prob :( |
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| 10:00 | <MrDigimon> | and no one here seems to be alive to help me :( |
| 10:00 | <Shadowdancer> | MrDigimon: do you have kdm, gdm or some other desktop manager installed so the system starts right into the crash? |
| 10:01 | <MrDigimon> | i have kdm (should be) |
| 10:01 | <Vyrk> | the hdb has a format problem you know? |
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| 10:01 | <Vyrk> | can this be affecting the kernel? |
| 10:01 | <MrDigimon> | i can get into shell tho, i can boot into single user mode |
| 10:01 | <Vyrk> | im installing on the hda2 |
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| 10:02 | <Vyrk> | fuck the jesus christ |
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| 10:03 | <Vyrk> | i will take out that fucking hd |
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| 10:03 | <Vyrk> | emmm |
| 10:03 | <Shadowdancer> | MrDigimon: disable the DM (you can just uninstall it, but putting "exit 0" right after the head comment in the init script is fine). Then start normally, and load the fglrx module manually. See if that works and check the output in dmesg. |
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| 10:04 | <Vyrk> | shadow, i have make the ext3 and swap partition with the partman in the debian boot |
| 10:04 | <Vyrk> | can i trust in that program? |
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| 10:05 | <MrDigimon> | how do i load it manually? |
| 10:05 | <Shadowdancer> | MrDigimon: login as root, and then "modprobe fglrx" |
| 10:05 | <Vyrk> | well... see you around |
| 10:05 | <MrDigimon> | ok |
| 10:05 | <Vyrk> | f. kernel |
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| 10:06 | <Shadowdancer> | Vyrk: sorry, your problem sounds a bit too involved for my current state of mind |
| 10:06 | <qq-> | Vyrk is out ... |
| 10:06 | <Shadowdancer> | I know |
| 10:06 | <MrDigimon> | isnt there anything else i can try, i dont wanna make too many changes in the system, its fucked up as it is now already |
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| 10:06 | <Shadowdancer> | MrDigimon: that's not too much of a change |
| 10:07 | <Shadowdancer> | can be easily reverted and doesn't break more than usual |
| 10:07 | <MrDigimon> | *sigh* okay |
| 10:07 | <MrDigimon> | i must try that later |
| 10:08 | <MrDigimon> | i have some homework to do at the comp now |
| 10:08 | <MrDigimon> | see ya later ppl |
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| 10:14 | <douglas> | cc |
| 10:14 | <douglas> | ' c=] |
| 10:14 | <douglas> | \ -p['''''' |
| 10:14 | <douglas> | sorry |
| 10:14 | <douglas> | 16:10 -!- qq- [~qq@212.147.107.136 |
| 10:14 | <douglas> | baby |
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| 10:15 | <douglas> | on keyboard |
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| 10:17 | <jackyf> | douglas: :) |
| 10:18 | <stevecotton> | a baby is not the recommended device for keeping a cat off the keyboard |
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| 10:26 | <F-Lelo> | Hello all. I'm having a pretty different problem with permissions. They all get set to "?". This way, no one can receive their emails. Take a look: http://paste.debian.net/16382 - Can anyone help me? |
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| 10:27 | <cdlu> | I'd love to but that's a new one for me. |
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| 10:27 | <F-Lelo> | =( |
| 10:27 | <F-Lelo> | I need to delete those files, at least |
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| 10:27 | <F-Lelo> | don't mint losing some mails |
| 10:27 | <F-Lelo> | need it working =/ |
| 10:28 | <cdlu> | F-Lelo, what happens if you try doing anything to those files? |
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| 10:28 | <F-Lelo> | always permission denied |
| 10:28 | <cdlu> | as root? |
| 10:29 | <F-Lelo> | yep =/ |
| 10:29 | <hahnp> | rm -rf files |
| 10:30 | <F-Lelo> | tried that, permission denied |
| 10:30 | <hahnp> | chmod 777 files |
| 10:30 | <hahnp> | chmod -r 777 files |
| 10:30 | <hahnp> | must be working... |
| 10:30 | <F-Lelo> | -r == -R? |
| 10:30 | <hahnp> | recursive |
| 10:31 | <F-Lelo> | so its the same... same thing, permission denied =/ |
| 10:31 | <hahnp> | yes |
| 10:31 | <jackyf> | chown? |
| 10:31 | <hahnp> | are you realy root? |
| 10:31 | <buffoon_work> | chattr -s files ? |
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| 10:32 | <buffoon_work> | and chattr -u files |
| 10:32 | <buffoon_work> | and then rm -rf files |
| 10:32 | <F-Lelo> | chattr: Permissão negada while trying to stat nilton |
| 10:32 | <F-Lelo> | cant chattr it =/ |
| 10:32 | <buffoon_work> | hmm, what fs? ext3? |
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| 10:34 | <F-Lelo> | reiserfs |
| 10:34 | <vileam> | !ru |
| 10:34 | <dpkg> | Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net |
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| 10:35 | <buffoon_work> | hmm, don't have any clue about reiserfs |
| 10:35 | <buffoon_work> | i'm sorry |
| 10:35 | <F-Lelo> | ok, thanks anyway =( |
| 10:36 | <buffoon_work> | but maybe there's something similar then chattr for reiserfs |
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| 10:36 | <F-Lelo> | it should work |
| 10:36 | <F-Lelo> | but it has no permission, so... chattr wont work |
| 10:36 | <F-Lelo> | its not because of reiserfs |
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| 10:38 | <buffoon_work> | did you try to check that filesystem? |
| 10:38 | <F-Lelo> | cant, I'm on ssh |
| 10:38 | <hahnp> | F-Lelo, u can try reiserfsck |
| 10:39 | <F-Lelo> | do I have to unmount it? |
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| 10:40 | <hahnp> | it would be better i think |
| 10:40 | <F-Lelo> | yeah, but it's the root partition! =/ |
| 10:40 | <F-Lelo> | and I'm on ssh |
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| 10:41 | <buffoon_work> | there should be a possibility to set a flag on that partition that it gets checked the next time when mounted... then reboot the system |
| 10:41 | <hahnp> | you can try anyway i think |
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| 10:41 | <buffoon_work> | maybe if you do just a reiserfsck it'll set that flag... (or read manpage in case) |
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| 10:41 | <F-Lelo> | buffoon_work: I agree, I'm only afraid of the need of user interactions while on fsck... |
| 10:42 | <Zathraz> | hi. When I add a route to/in /etc/network/interface is it possible to activate this setting without issuing an if-down/uf-up so that other connections/routes remain active? |
| 10:42 | <buffoon_work> | don't you have some access to the console? (like HP ILO or something) |
| 10:43 | <petemc> | Zathraz: im not sure, but you can manipulate the routing table directly with ip route... |
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| 10:43 | <F-Lelo> | buffoon_work unfortunatedly not =/ |
| 10:43 | <Zathraz> | petemc, that's true, but that way I am not sure that the entries in the config file are correct and things will work when the network if goes down/up |
| 10:44 | <Zathraz> | therefor I would like to work with/through the config file |
| 10:46 | <hahnp> | F-Lelo, you can give shutdown -r an extra parameter to force fsck on next startup -F Force fsck on reboot. |
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| 11:00 | <hahnp> | hmm F-Lelo seems to be gone? |
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| 11:04 | <kevin> | hello, anybody? |
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| 11:04 | <kevin> | Good morning |
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| 11:04 | <Zathraz> | now that was informative.... |
| 11:05 | <hahnp> | hehe |
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| 11:06 | <ypg> | hello? |
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| 11:07 | <hahnp> | hi |
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| 11:11 | <F-Lelo> | hahnp: sorry man, I was testing some other solution |
| 11:12 | <F-Lelo> | hahnp: I'm trying to do a mount -o remount,ro / |
| 11:12 | <hahnp> | while running :D |
| 11:12 | <hahnp> | hmm... |
| 11:12 | <F-Lelo> | maybe it works :) |
| 11:12 | <F-Lelo> | I'm stopping daemons now |
| 11:13 | <hahnp> | k |
| 11:14 | <F-Lelo> | it still tells me "/ is busy" =/ |
| 11:14 | <hahnp> | i thought so... |
| 11:15 | <hahnp> | did u try reboot with fsck option? |
| 11:15 | <hahnp> | to check filesystem? |
| 11:15 | <F-Lelo> | how do I do that? |
| 11:15 | <F-Lelo> | I'm afraid it needs someone on the keyboard to get it up once again |
| 11:16 | <hahnp> | shutdown -r -F now |
| 11:16 | <hahnp> | if you do a reboot? |
| 11:16 | <F-Lelo> | yeah... like when it starts fsck on booting proccess and you need to confirm things... that would suck |
| 11:16 | <F-Lelo> | I woudn't be able to put it online again remotelly |
| 11:16 | <hahnp> | hm |
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| 11:17 | <hahnp> | i think it will force check the filesystem so you did not have to press anything |
| 11:18 | <F-Lelo> | with shutdown -r -F now? |
| 11:18 | <F-Lelo> | are you sure? |
| 11:18 | <hahnp> | xD |
| 11:18 | <hahnp> | yes |
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| 11:19 | <F-Lelo> | -F forces fsck on reboot... but if I have to do anything, I'm screwed |
| 11:19 | <F-Lelo> | there is no keyboard there... no monitors also |
| 11:19 | <F-Lelo> | do I risk it? =) |
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| 11:19 | <F-Lelo> | it's like 20km from here hahaha |
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| 11:20 | <hahnp> | :D |
| 11:20 | <F-Lelo> | I'm in a big doubt right now :D |
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| 11:20 | <hahnp> | im not shure 100%... if u want i can test it for you :) |
| 11:21 | <hahnp> | i will be back in about 5-10 minutes okay? |
| 11:21 | <F-Lelo> | cool!! thx =D |
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| 11:22 | <stevecotton> | how big is the filesystem that needs fscking? |
| 11:22 | <F-Lelo> | 75G |
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| 11:23 | <stevecotton> | that's not too bad. I was thinking if it was a big one you could go over there in the time that it was checking. |
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| 11:23 | <F-Lelo> | yup... thought about that too |
| 11:25 | <F-Lelo> | what the heck |
| 11:25 | <F-Lelo> | I'll just try it |
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| 11:26 | <F-Lelo> | brb, mandatory lunch break |
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| 11:26 | <hahnp> | F-Lelo, hey |
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| 11:26 | <F-Lelo> | hahnp yep? |
| 11:26 | <F-Lelo> | did it work? |
| 11:26 | <hahnp> | worked well |
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| 11:27 | <hahnp> | i had to do nothing |
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| 11:27 | <F-Lelo> | cool! i'll take the risk then hehehe |
| 11:27 | <hahnp> | :D |
| 11:27 | <F-Lelo> | thank you man |
| 11:27 | <F-Lelo> | really :) |
| 11:27 | <F-Lelo> | hey, brb |
| 11:27 | <hahnp> | np |
| 11:27 | <F-Lelo> | mandatory lunch break |
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| 11:27 | <F-Lelo> | 20 mins max! cya |
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| 11:36 | <valdyn> | like "size" matters for fsck |
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| 11:37 | <Vyrk> | hello again |
| 11:38 | <Vyrk> | el bailarÃn de las sombras is here? |
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| 11:41 | <Shadowdancer> | he's leaving now, sorry |
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| 11:42 | <k0zi> | server irc.atw.hu |
| 11:42 | <k0zi> | oh sorry |
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| 11:42 | <F-Lelo> | hahnp: it worked, but the permissions problem persists =/ |
| 11:43 | <hahnp> | damn |
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| 11:43 | <hahnp> | is there a process working on the files? |
| 11:43 | <F-Lelo> | I don't know, I get permission denied to use even fuser on it |
| 11:44 | <F-Lelo> | gonna try to repeat the cry for help |
| 11:44 | <F-Lelo> | -> I'm having a pretty different problem with permissions. They all get set to "?". This way, no one can receive their emails. Take a look: http://paste.debian.net/16382 - Can anyone help me? |
| 11:45 | <petemc> | you've done a fsck? |
| 11:45 | <F-Lelo> | I've used shutdown -F -r now |
| 11:45 | <petemc> | anything in dmesg or messages? |
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| 11:46 | <F-Lelo> | omg, yeah... I'll paste it, w8 |
| 11:46 | <hahnp> | can you check /var/log/syslog for any errors |
| 11:46 | <hahnp> | while deleting the files |
| 11:46 | <stevecotton> | what does "ls -li" say? |
| 11:46 | <F-Lelo> | here it is: http://paste.debian.net/16390 |
| 11:46 | <F-Lelo> | w8 Staale |
| 11:46 | <F-Lelo> | ops, stevecotton |
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| 11:47 | <petemc> | looks like your shits all messed up |
| 11:47 | <F-Lelo> | stevecotton: http://paste.debian.net/16391 |
| 11:47 | <petemc> | not to get too technical |
| 11:47 | <F-Lelo> | petemc: for sure =/ |
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| 11:47 | <petemc> | were you aware that reiser is liable to blow up in your face |
| 11:47 | <petemc> | ? |
| 11:48 | <F-Lelo> | nope! |
| 11:48 | <F-Lelo> | been using for several years, first time it happends |
| 11:48 | <petemc> | then theres something to be learned here |
| 11:48 | <stevecotton> | I've never seen that sort of stuff before, but I think you have entries that are in the directory, but that have no associated i-nodes. |
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| 11:48 | <petemc> | !reiser |
| 11:48 | <dpkg> | i guess reiserfs is a journaling filesystem with pretty good performance and some interesting features. See http://www.namesys.com. It is wonderful and everyone loves it, until the axe falls and they lose data due to a crash. As such, it has a lot of ex-fans who are now sadder but wiser. See <ext3>, <xfs>, or <jfs> for safer filesystems. Like the DHARMA Initiative: government-sponsored, highly scientific and secretive. <ext3 vs reiserfs> |
| 11:48 | <stevecotton> | not my skill area |
| 11:49 | <Vyrk> | hda: lost interrupt, what do you think about it? |
| 11:49 | <stevecotton> | is anything in the lost+found directory in the root of that filesystem? |
| 11:49 | <F-Lelo> | wow................ thanks petemc! |
| 11:49 | <petemc> | Vyrk: bad cable or more likely dying disk |
| 11:49 | <F-Lelo> | !jfs |
| 11:49 | <dpkg> | from memory, jfs is Journaled File System from IBM, licensed under the GPL. Fast and very reliable. Performance has improved significantly since initial release(s). Give it a try!, or http://oss.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/jfs/ |
| 11:50 | <F-Lelo> | might use ext3 on next install =/ |
| 11:50 | <petemc> | Vyrk: actually, do you see other messages about seek incomplete ? |
| 11:50 | <Vyrk> | demn... |
| 11:51 | <Vyrk> | no... only on hda |
| 11:51 | <stevecotton> | hmm - the Reiser factoid has the word "axe" in it - might be from a biased point of view. |
| 11:51 | <hahnp> | did fsck reply any errors while checking? |
| 11:51 | <F-Lelo> | hahnp: believe it or not, nope... it did not!!! >< |
| 11:51 | <hahnp> | hmpf |
| 11:51 | <petemc> | Vyrk: then ignore what i said |
| 11:53 | <Vyrk> | are you sure? |
| 11:53 | <petemc> | im sure you should ignore what i said, yes |
| 11:53 | <Vyrk> | cause, look this link, here is another guy who says the same as you said |
| 11:53 | <Vyrk> | http://www.debianhelp.org/node/6834 |
| 11:53 | <petemc> | Vyrk: that message on its own may be nothing |
| 11:53 | <Vyrk> | ah, ok... |
| 11:53 | <Vyrk> | but, it can be, no? |
| 11:54 | <Vyrk> | this hd has something like 8 year of use... |
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| 11:54 | <stevecotton> | F-Lelo: is anything in the lost+found directory in the root of that filesystem? |
| 11:54 | <Vyrk> | and not a very friendly use, of course. |
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| 11:55 | <Vyrk> | how can i check if my hd is the problem?, any idea? |
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| 11:55 | <stevecotton> | Vyrk: the "smartmon" packages |
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| 11:56 | <Vyrk> | i can`t run debian... |
| 11:56 | <stevecotton> | I think 8 years is a long time for a drive. |
| 11:56 | <Vyrk> | im on the W OS. |
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| 11:56 | <Vyrk> | i think it too... |
| 11:56 | <F-Lelo> | stevecotton: checking |
| 11:56 | <Vyrk> | maybe a new computer... xD! |
| 11:57 | <F-Lelo> | stevecotton: nope |
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| 11:57 | <Vyrk> | but demn, i hate those laptop.... |
| 11:57 | <stevecotton> | Vyrk: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-Monitoring,_Analysis,_and_Reporting_Technology |
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| 11:57 | <stevecotton> | F-Lelo: :( |
| 11:57 | <Vyrk> | let`s see, thanks |
| 11:58 | <F-Lelo> | stevecotton: that makes two of us |
| 11:58 | <F-Lelo> | stevecotton: I might get the system for reinstall overnight... =/ |
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| 11:59 | <shivraj> | how can I configure my wirless networks essid at startup ? |
| 12:00 | <shivraj> | in interface ? |
| 12:00 | <Vyrk> | s.m.a.r.t xDDD! |
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| 12:01 | <Vyrk> | DRIVE HEALTH: EXCELENT |
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| 12:01 | <Vyrk> | EMMM |
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| 12:01 | <Vyrk> | windows can`t recogniza the ext3 and swap partitions right? |
| 12:02 | <Vyrk> | cause here says that there is no ext3 and swap partition on this hdd... only one partition, wich uses all the space in the disk... that is weird.. |
| 12:03 | <Vyrk> | partition magic says this |
| 12:03 | <Vyrk> | that the ext3 unit is fully used.. |
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| 12:04 | <variable> | where is iceweasel plugins directory? If it has? |
| 12:04 | <Vyrk> | emmm... here is the problem, debian doesn`t use 21Gb on his operative system, right? |
| 12:04 | <variable> | i guess no |
| 12:05 | <Vyrk> | so, how can the ext3 partition made with the partman in the debian boot program be fully used with 21Gb if, i havent be able to even start the distro? |
| 12:06 | <variable> | I'm not a pro in debian ;] |
| 12:06 | <Vyrk> | emm.. |
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| 12:06 | <Vyrk> | i should try making the partition with partition magic instead of partman |
| 12:07 | <newsense> | variable: maybe try whereis iceweasel and check those dirs |
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| 12:08 | <variable> | newsense, hahaha because of the fhs policy i have to look it everywhere ;] |
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| 12:08 | <newsense> | variable: :( |
| 12:08 | <Vyrk> | demn |
| 12:09 | <Vyrk> | the ext3 partition cross the 1024 cylinders boundary |
| 12:09 | <Vyrk> | that mean it can`t be bootable? |
| 12:09 | <kop> | Vyrk : It depends on your bios. |
| 12:09 | <newsense> | variable: /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins ? |
| 12:09 | <Vyrk> | a ACPI |
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| 12:10 | <variable> | hmm |
| 12:10 | <kop> | Vyrk : You'd have to know the version, and then use google to do the research. This is why most people make separate boot partition, so they don't have to worry about it. |
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| 12:10 | <fxiny> | is it a pre '98 bios ? |
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| 12:11 | <Vyrk> | kop: ok, i should try that |
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| 12:12 | <kop> | Vyrk : An ext3 partition can be completely filled with an ext3 file system, but the files system can be empty. There's a difference between filling a partition and filling a file system. I don't know just what's being reported by your various programs, but that could be the confusion. |
| 12:12 | <Vyrk> | fxiny i don`t think so |
| 12:12 | <fxiny> | Vyrk: so don't worry |
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| 12:13 | <Vyrk> | emmm |
| 12:13 | <Vyrk> | the partition magic show the free space of this ntfs partition |
| 12:13 | <Vyrk> | and the free space of the ext3 partition, wich is zero |
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| 12:16 | <Vyrk> | sorry, but there can i get the bios information? |
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| 12:22 | <Vyrk> | demn |
| 12:23 | <Vyrk> | pentium discontues the Prescott cpu |
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| 12:28 | <fxiny> | Vyrk: how big is your hd ? |
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| 12:28 | <F-Lelo> | fxiny: get a room! hehehe jk |
| 12:28 | <fxiny> | F-Lelo: i'm trying to focus on his bios |
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| 12:28 | <F-Lelo> | fxiny: sorry, just kidding man :) |
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| 12:28 | <fxiny> | the hd capacity can give me a clue |
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| 12:28 | <fxiny> | F-Lelo: no worries :) |
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| 12:28 | <fxiny> | F-Lelo: i'm loading a joke ... |
| 12:28 | <F-Lelo> | fxiny: nice -19 joke |
| 12:28 | <fxiny> | it is |
| 12:28 | <Vyrk> | fxiny the hdd is of 80GB |
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| 12:29 | <Vyrk> | amibios has the problem of 1025 cylinder bootable boundary? |
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| 12:29 | <Vyrk> | ODE boundary problems xDD!! |
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| 12:32 | <fxiny> | F-Lelo: my neighbour complains because of his resident cat abduction : he ran chrome-magnon just once but the cat abduction , aparently , was in the EULA :P |
| 12:33 | <F-Lelo> | fxiny: looool!!! hahahaha |
| 12:33 | <F-Lelo> | good one |
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| 12:35 | <fxiny> | Vyrk: 80GB ? so your bios is a post 98 |
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| 12:38 | <Vyrk> | wuahaha xD |
| 12:38 | <Vyrk> | what should i do? |
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| 12:38 | <fxiny> | what's your problem ? |
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| 12:39 | <Vyrk> | ok, he bios doesn`t have the problem of the 1024 cylinder caus is made on april os 2001 |
| 12:39 | <Vyrk> | emmm |
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| 12:40 | <Vyrk> | when i start debian, after installing the kernel, it stops on hda: lost interrupt |
| 12:40 | <Vyrk> | the other option is a bad cable, but id there was a bad cable, probably i can`t be using windows right now.. |
| 12:40 | <Vyrk> | so... what is left? a bad partitioning... |
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| 12:42 | <Nemoder> | a bad partition would probably give filesystem errors not lost interrupt |
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| 12:43 | <Vyrk> | emmm... |
| 12:43 | <Nemoder> | sounds like it might be a flakey bios |
| 12:45 | <Vyrk> | demn... |
| 12:45 | <Vyrk> | ... |
| 12:45 | <Vyrk> | nothing to do then, no? |
| 12:46 | <fxiny> | some 80GB are pretty bad |
| 12:46 | <Vyrk> | what??? |
| 12:46 | <fxiny> | yes |
| 12:46 | <fxiny> | i said some |
| 12:46 | <Vyrk> | ok, i will get a rope and try to hing my self... |
| 12:46 | <fxiny> | check the hd |
| 12:47 | <Vyrk> | i have already check it, it have no problem |
| 12:47 | <fxiny> | yes ? |
| 12:47 | <Vyrk> | yes, with the a s.m.a.r.t. program |
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| 12:47 | <Vyrk> | so, the rope as I have said.. |
| 12:48 | <fxiny> | do you have a boot partition ? |
| 12:48 | <Nemoder> | Vyrk: is this etch installer? |
| 12:48 | <Vyrk> | you mean the new distro? |
| 12:48 | <Vyrk> | no, it`s the 4.0r |
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| 12:48 | <Nemoder> | you might try lenny installer, maybe the newer kernels will work |
| 12:49 | <Vyrk> | but demn, they are 5 dvds! xD! |
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| 12:49 | <Nemoder> | just use net installer |
| 12:49 | <Vyrk> | emm.. |
| 12:49 | <fxiny> | lenny is super fast |
| 12:49 | <Vyrk> | let`s see |
| 12:49 | <Nemoder> | http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 12:49 | <fxiny> | i have not finisged yet but i am impressed |
| 12:50 | <Vyrk> | are you sure that the new kernel has the net cd? |
| 12:51 | <stevecotton> | Vyrk - you only need CD1 of Lenny. |
| 12:51 | <Nemoder> | the 150m image has all the basic stuff to get you installed |
| 12:51 | <Vyrk> | lenny beta 2? |
| 12:51 | <Nemoder> | yeah |
| 12:52 | <Vyrk> | and, if it works, i have to download all the dvds, right? |
| 12:52 | <stevecotton> | nope |
| 12:52 | <Vyrk> | or it have a basid desktop enviroment? |
| 12:52 | <Nemoder> | no, it only downloads the software you tell it to install |
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| 12:52 | <Vyrk> | ahh... untill the ppoeconf you mean? |
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| 12:53 | <Nemoder> | so for all of gnome it might be another 300m or so |
| 12:53 | <Vyrk> | ok, i should try this |
| 12:53 | <Vyrk> | if doesn`t works i will bought some nice rope today... |
| 12:53 | <fxiny> | on my fat box , i made a lame test copying a 1G file : lenny does it in half time comparing to etch . nice kernel . |
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| 12:54 | <fxiny> | and it boots quickly |
| 12:54 | <Vyrk> | netinst, right? |
| 12:54 | <Nemoder> | yes |
| 12:54 | <Nemoder> | the netinst comes with the kernel and basic programs to get you connected |
| 12:54 | <fxiny> | i'm checking xorg/xrandr conf , not bad |
| 12:55 | <Vyrk> | ok |
| 12:55 | <Vyrk> | but, i will maintain the rope option |
| 12:55 | <Vyrk> | always the same with me and the linux distros... |
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| 12:55 | <Vyrk> | maybe im cursed, or something like that |
| 12:56 | <Vyrk> | "oh your bios is too fuckkin shitty to run a distro" |
| 12:56 | <fxiny> | Vyrk: rope are good for climbing : fresh air at the top of the mountains ;) |
| 12:56 | <Vyrk> | "oh your hair is too fuckin brown to run a distro" |
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| 12:56 | <Vyrk> | "oh, your shoes are too new to run a distro" |
| 12:57 | <fxiny> | Vyrk: why ? i'm running a PII 400 |
| 12:57 | <Vyrk> | Fxiny: Rope are good for hunging: fresh air at the top a building |
| 12:57 | <Vyrk> | really? xD!!!! a PII?? |
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| 12:57 | <Nemoder> | my router runs debian on a p200 =) |
| 12:58 | <Vyrk> | that is something like emm... i don`t know, "you have died of dysentery" |
| 12:58 | <fxiny> | Vyrk: i spent a month tree climbing , i know what ropes are for |
| 12:58 | <Nemoder> | I think the power supply fan on it died too but it generates so little heat it still runs fine |
| 12:58 | <fxiny> | i've cut 5 dangerous trees : full hacking immersion ;P |
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| 12:59 | <fxiny> | my power supply fan runs only with a toothpick ! |
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| 13:00 | <fxiny> | and yes , it generates little heat |
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| 13:00 | <fxiny> | Nemoder: try pressing it in the middle |
| 13:00 | <fxiny> | it should start |
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| 13:01 | <Nemoder> | heh ya it spins if i give it a push |
| 13:01 | <fxiny> | Nemoder: so use a toothpick like i do :) |
| 13:01 | <Nemoder> | but I don't know for how long, it's in another building so I would have to keep checking it |
| 13:02 | <fxiny> | a chewed one |
| 13:02 | <Nemoder> | but I guess I'll know if my connection dies :) |
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| 13:02 | <fxiny> | it will work , just don't damage the plastic |
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| 13:07 | <fxiny> | Nemoder: you got the grid , right ? just stick it some 45 degrees .maybe less . it will keep pressing in the center and the fan will run |
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| 13:07 | <Nemoder> | hmm, could try that |
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| 13:08 | <fxiny> | mine is so silent now i don't even think to buy a new one |
| 13:08 | <Nemoder> | or i could just replace the psu, I have a few old ones around, I just don't like having to go offline to repair it :) |
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| 13:12 | <qq-> | put a hairfun near psu ... |
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| 13:13 | <qq-> | Nemoder, ^^ or other external fun |
| 13:14 | <Nemoder> | I just don't want to risk something falling in there.. I've had PSUs catch fire before : |
| 13:14 | <haxi_> | I wonder why my vlc don't wanna read .wmv files. w32codecs is installed. :x |
| 13:14 | <fxiny> | my psu can run even without fan . normal hd temp is 35°C , without fan goes up to 41 no more |
| 13:15 | <fxiny> | so the airflow is enouf |
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| 13:16 | <Nemoder> | haxi_: run it in a terminal and see if there is a specific error? |
| 13:16 | <betel> | Hi. I'm trying to get PXE networking booting workin by following this: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/478 but "/etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa start" whithout any error messages. |
| 13:17 | <haxi_> | Nemoder: good idea: |
| 13:17 | <haxi_> | [00000296][00000296] main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `wma2'. VLC probably does not support this sound or video format. |
| 13:17 | <haxi_> | [00000337][00000337] main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `WMV3'.VLC probably does not support this sound or video format. |
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| 13:19 | <hahnp> | betel, you can try to use opsi-depotserver |
| 13:19 | <Nemoder> | haxi_: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=483052 |
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| 13:20 | <hahnp> | if you just want to get pxe boot working |
| 13:20 | <stevecotton> | Can't you folks find some 486s to nick the power supplies from? That's what we did with our P120 router. |
| 13:21 | <variable> | I don't understand i am playing the game in iceweasel and now i pushed the button to play xmms and it sais that couldn't open audio. |
| 13:21 | <betel> | hahnp, ok. I will try that. |
| 13:21 | <hahnp> | there is an image available that you can download and it will work :D |
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| 13:25 | <fxiny> | variable: yes , one at the time : iceweasel ox xmms |
| 13:25 | <fxiny> | or* |
| 13:26 | * | qq- use opened boxes for tests |
| 13:26 | <variable> | but after terminating iceweasel i still need to reset alsa |
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| 13:26 | <variable> | qq-, what boxes? |
| 13:27 | * | qq- 2.0G 1.5G 366M 81% / |
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| 13:27 | <qq-> | old ones |
| 13:27 | <variable> | qq-, i don't understand waht are you talking about |
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| 13:28 | <qq-> | it's was for Nemoder |
| 13:28 | <variable> | i'm still new with debian |
| 13:28 | <variable> | o, ok ;] |
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| 13:28 | <fxiny> | move to lenny |
| 13:28 | <variable> | why? |
| 13:29 | <qq-> | why not! |
| 13:29 | * | qq- brb |
| 13:29 | <variable> | tel why yes? |
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| 13:29 | <variable> | !lenny |
| 13:29 | <dpkg> | somebody said lenny was the codename for the next Debian release, currently testing. To upgrade to lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>. Lenny is the binoculars. Lenny will be known as version 5.0 and it will hopefully be released soon (ask me about <wwlr>). A <moving target>. See also <testing> and <lenny status>. |
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| 13:30 | <haxi_> | Nemoder: this is CRUEL. |
| 13:30 | <mastroquet> | !etch->lenny |
| 13:30 | <fxiny> | variable: because is the next BIG debian thing |
| 13:30 | <variable> | yes yes yes ;] |
| 13:31 | <variable> | do you know when it will apear? |
| 13:31 | <Nemoder> | haxi_: it seems to be working ok in lenny, you could try the multimedia repo if you are on etch |
| 13:31 | <Nemoder> | !dmm |
| 13:31 | <dpkg> | hmm... dmm is Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For information on how to use this repository, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <debian-multimedia.etch> |
| 13:31 | <haxi_> | Nemoder: I never used anything other than vlc, do you have another good video player? thanks. |
| 13:31 | <haxi_> | mh, I'm on lenny. |
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| 13:31 | <Nemoder> | oh hm |
| 13:31 | <haxi_> | and I've debi multi depots. :/ |
| 13:31 | <Nemoder> | haxi_: try xine, or mplayer |
| 13:32 | <haxi_> | ok. thanks ;] |
| 13:32 | <Nemoder> | haxi_: ahhh that might be the problem then, I think there are conflicts with dmm and lenny right now |
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| 13:32 | <fxiny> | variable: wir |
| 13:32 | <fxiny> | "when is ready" |
| 13:33 | <fxiny> | i read next will be squeeze |
| 13:33 | <Nemoder> | haxi_: a few months ago I had to completely remove all my dmm packages and use apt-pinning to force them to use the lenny repot first |
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| 13:34 | <variable> | I think first i need to learn basic on etch and then move to lenny ;/ |
| 13:34 | <haxi_> | Well, I'm not realy used to toy with depots, dependencies and such, so I'll wait & use another player, for the moment! Thanks :] |
| 13:34 | <Lethalman> | variable, i switched to lenny the day after |
| 13:34 | <variable> | ;] |
| 13:34 | <fxiny> | wrong , lenny is more advanced, you will have some suprise : say configuring xorg ... |
| 13:34 | <Nemoder> | haxi_: you can use apt-cache policy <package> to see which server a package came from |
| 13:35 | <Nemoder> | if say, vlc comes from lenny but all the codecs come from dmm then you might have conflicts |
| 13:35 | <fxiny> | variable: and lenny is : fast fast fast |
| 13:35 | <variable> | and what about nvidia drivers |
| 13:35 | <variable> | is it easy to install? |
| 13:35 | <variable> | or same sh... as here? |
| 13:36 | <fxiny> | no nvidia here : no idea . wait for an answer |
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| 13:37 | <variable> | I still didn't figured out how to install it, there always some problems with som lib or other issue |
| 13:37 | <fxiny> | variable: i'm instaling lenny on my fat box : i've checked xorg/video and alsa/audio , done some minimal performances tests and i am impressed |
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| 13:39 | <fxiny> | variable: i have upgraded an etch base install image , done with the very first etch installer . no porbs at all , i think i will strip all x related packages from this one . when upgrading |
| 13:39 | <fxiny> | not sure . just an idea |
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| 13:40 | <fxiny> | and i will use jablicator to duplicate it |
| 13:40 | <fxiny> | maybe |
| 13:41 | <haxi_> | variable: nvidia drivers just easy to install. Download the .run file on nvidia drivers website, /etc/init.d/gdm stop (your display manager), go in a console, sh NVIDIA-blabla-.run |
| 13:41 | <haxi_> | here you go. Don't forget to install the headers of your kernel, and gcc. (For headers: apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` |
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| 13:46 | <blarson> | Using nvidia's installer has been known to cause problems on debian systems. |
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| 13:46 | <blarson> | !nvidia |
| 13:46 | <dpkg> | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, ask me about <nvidia one-liner> for a reminder. If using a later release than Etch, ask me about <nvidia_post_etch>. nvidia.com drivers (ie. <nvidia-installer>) are _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
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| 13:59 | <hahnp> | haxi_, german? |
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| 14:00 | <KnuckOne> | yes blarson you need to reinstall it at each xorg update ;) |
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| 14:00 | <haxi_> | hahnp: french. why? |
| 14:00 | <hahnp> | because of blabla :D |
| 14:00 | <haxi_> | ah =P |
| 14:00 | <haxi_> | It's french too :P |
| 14:00 | <hahnp> | hehe |
| 14:01 | <Lethalman> | italian too :S |
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| 14:01 | <zett> | hi |
| 14:01 | <zett> | How to start Konqueror as root ? |
| 14:01 | <zett> | I forgot command |
| 14:01 | <haxi_> | log in as root in a terminal |
| 14:01 | <hahnp> | type konqueror :D |
| 14:01 | <haxi_> | type konqueror |
| 14:01 | <haxi_> | =D |
| 14:01 | <zett> | but as root |
| 14:01 | <haxi_> | sudo konqueror |
| 14:01 | <hahnp> | be root... type konqueror |
| 14:01 | <zett> | Debian dont use sudo |
| 14:02 | <haxi_> | Well I use it, and it's pretty usefull. |
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| 14:02 | <hahnp> | m2 |
| 14:02 | <zett> | ooom |
| 14:02 | <zett> | it was |
| 14:03 | <fxiny> | why running konqueror as root ? |
| 14:03 | <zett> | su -to -root -x konqueror |
| 14:03 | <zett> | or something |
| 14:03 | <zett> | i dont remmber |
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| 14:04 | <hahnp> | you can user su to get root... after that you can type konquereor |
| 14:05 | <weasel> | you don't want to run konqueror as root. |
| 14:06 | <zett> | in super user mode if i type konqueror it says "Konqueror" command not found |
| 14:06 | <haxi_> | "konqueror", not "Konqueror" |
| 14:06 | <hahnp> | /usr/bin/konqueror |
| 14:06 | <haxi_> | try .//usr/bin/konqueror |
| 14:06 | <haxi_> | ./usr/bin/konqueror |
| 14:06 | <haxi_> | ^^ |
| 14:07 | <fxiny> | what ? |
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| 14:07 | <zett> | No protocol specified |
| 14:07 | <zett> | konqueror: cannot connect to X server :0.0 |
| 14:07 | <weasel> | > you don't want to run konqueror as root. |
| 14:07 | <hahnp> | xD |
| 14:07 | <zett> | i want |
| 14:07 | <zett> | :-D |
| 14:07 | <zett> | i want browse in my ntfs disk |
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| 14:08 | <haxi_> | zett: as user, `xhost +` |
| 14:08 | <zett> | and i want copy some data |
| 14:08 | <weasel> | haxi_: stop telling him bad stuff. |
| 14:08 | <weasel> | zett: mount your ntfs disk properly, |
| 14:08 | <haxi_> | weasel: :> |
| 14:08 | <weasel> | zett: so that you can access it as your user. |
| 14:08 | <weasel> | haxi_: xhost + is about the most stupid thing you could have said |
| 14:08 | <haxi_> | there is no problem with it. |
| 14:08 | <zett> | i use lenny |
| 14:09 | <weasel> | haxi_: yes, there is. and if you don't know that you shouldn't be let near users |
| 14:09 | <weasel> | or near computers. |
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| 14:09 | <zett> | nice is that i fixed problem with UTC time xD |
| 14:09 | <fxiny> | not even power plugs :P |
| 14:09 | <haxi_> | weasel: ok, I'll take the advice. thanks for the tip. I won't do xhost + anymore ;] |
| 14:09 | <weasel> | zett: you should look into mounting your ntfs disk so that you can access it |
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| 14:10 | <zett> | if i want enter to my ntfs partition it says could not enter to /mnt/win |
| 14:10 | <KnuckOne> | if X is used without -notcp, it can be dangerous haxi_, everybody can connect on your X server then |
| 14:11 | <weasel> | zett: how did you mount it? |
| 14:11 | <fxiny> | or use mc |
| 14:11 | <zett> | mkdir /mnt/win |
| 14:11 | <fxiny> | but still learn how to mount it properly |
| 14:11 | <zett> | omg |
| 14:11 | <zett> | lol |
| 14:11 | <zett> | wait |
| 14:11 | <Matt> | KnuckOne, and get a look at your desktop, sniff keystrokes, etc |
| 14:11 | <zett> | bad mount :D |
| 14:11 | <zett> | or not |
| 14:11 | <zett> | mount /dev/sda1/ /mnt/win |
| 14:12 | <haxi_> | KnuckOne: what do you mean in "everybody"? |
| 14:12 | <weasel> | haxi_: everybody. |
| 14:12 | <weasel> | zett: do you want to write to it too, or just use it read-only? |
| 14:13 | <KnuckOne> | unless something block the port for you (firewall or router), everybody |
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| 14:13 | <zett> | dont want write to ntfs i want only read and copy from this to my /home |
| 14:14 | <weasel> | zett: what does "id" say? |
| 14:14 | <weasel> | when you run it as your user. |
| 14:14 | <KnuckOne> | i mkfs.vfat-ed my last nfts partition by mistake while making a bootable usb pendrive some days ago, i'm happy now :) |
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| 14:14 | <zett> | what ? |
| 14:14 | <zett> | i dont understand |
| 14:14 | <weasel> | zett: run "id", tell me what it says |
| 14:15 | <zett> | ok |
| 14:15 | <zett> | uid=0(root) gid=0(root) skupiny=0(root) |
| 14:15 | <weasel> | not as root |
| 14:15 | <weasel> | as a user |
| 14:15 | <zett> | xD |
| 14:15 | <zett> | sorry |
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| 14:15 | <zett> | uid=1000(zett) gid=1000(zett) skupiny=20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),44(video),46(plugdev),109(netdev),113(powerdev),1000(zett) |
| 14:15 | <haxi_> | KnuckOne: You mean.. ssh port? |
| 14:16 | <weasel> | as root, umount your ntfs partition, and when you mount it again use -o uid=1000 |
| 14:16 | <zett> | dont want how to unmount |
| 14:16 | <fxiny> | mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/xxxx /mount/point -o umask=0,nls=utf8 |
| 14:16 | <hahnp> | you need to installn tfs-3g first |
| 14:16 | <hahnp> | ntfs-3g |
| 14:16 | <zett> | omg lol :-D |
| 14:16 | <weasel> | zett: well, how about umount /mnt/win |
| 14:16 | <KnuckOne> | no ssh haxi_ you know X is a server for others people if you configure it that way, but it works also like "vnc" |
| 14:17 | <variable> | !grep |
| 14:17 | <dpkg> | grep is, like, at http://www.gnu.org/software/grep/grep.html (GNU grep, egrep and fgrep.) or called that because of ed's g/RE/p command, which does the same thing or "Marvel at the beautiful plumage of the wild grep as it glides lazily through the thick morning ASCII.". Global Regular Expression Print |
| 14:17 | <KnuckOne> | others people can grad your input/output |
| 14:17 | <KnuckOne> | s/grad/grab/ |
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| 14:17 | <zett> | unmount command not found |
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| 14:17 | <weasel> | zett: no m. |
| 14:17 | <KnuckOne> | umount |
| 14:18 | <zett> | omg i am noobs |
| 14:18 | <zett> | ... |
| 14:18 | <weasel> | yes, you are. |
| 14:18 | <zett> | thanks |
| 14:18 | <zett> | xD |
| 14:18 | <hahnp> | zett, why using plural of noob while talking about your skill :D |
| 14:18 | <haxi_> | mh.. ok I understand, but for my part, there is about 4computers connected to my router, and you can't be connected to my PC via any port, because the router don't know what to do with connections; so it's not routed to my pc. Anyway, thanks for the security tip! |
| 14:19 | <zett> | aaah |
| 14:19 | <zett> | that was long day |
| 14:19 | <zett> | ok done |
| 14:19 | <zett> | sorry but i ma linux / Debian rookie and i want just learn :-/ |
| 14:19 | <zett> | *i am |
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| 14:21 | <zett> | ok cya later |
| 14:21 | <zett> | i must go away |
| 14:21 | <zett> | good night |
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| 14:22 | <variable> | how to do a search on xmms? ;] |
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| 14:23 | <fxiny> | in lenny ? |
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| 14:23 | <fxiny> | ;) |
| 14:23 | <variable> | no etch |
| 14:23 | <Nemoder> | for xmms or in xmms? |
| 14:23 | <variable> | in xmms |
| 14:23 | <Nemoder> | searching a playlist? |
| 14:23 | <variable> | yes |
| 14:24 | <Nemoder> | not sure if that is possible.. I just search filesystem |
| 14:24 | <variable> | yes i think too :] |
| 14:24 | <Nemoder> | probably want amarok or something if you want features like that |
| 14:24 | <stevecotton> | save it as m3u, open it in your preferred editor |
| 14:25 | <variable> | is there any player which can have search and global hot keys funcions |
| 14:26 | <upsilon> | hi, every so often my system hangs on "setting system clock" when booting |
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| 14:27 | <stevecotton> | variable: juk comes close, but doesn't seem to have a way to configure the global hot keys |
| 14:27 | <cahoot> | upsilon: see if setting --directis as option to hwclock helps |
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| 14:27 | <cahoot> | upsilon: see if setting --directisa as option to hwclock helps |
| 14:28 | <upsilon> | okay |
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| 14:28 | <stevecotton> | it's got "global shortcuts", but they don't seem to work for me :( |
| 14:28 | <stevecotton> | might do what you want if you've got multimedia buttons on your keyboard |
| 14:28 | <upsilon> | but it's difficult to see if something works if it only does this every few boots :/ |
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| 14:31 | <cahoot> | upsilon: run /etc/init.d/hwclock ? |
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| 14:33 | <upsilon> | /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh reload ? |
| 14:33 | <qq-> | upsilon, witch wardware is it ? |
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| 14:34 | <upsilon> | x86 |
| 14:34 | <upsilon> | if you mean what I think |
| 14:34 | <qq-> | 86 186 286 386 486 586 686 |
| 14:35 | <upsilon> | 686 |
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| 14:35 | <qq-> | thx |
| 14:35 | <upsilon> | I had to do the --directisa thing in etch to make hwclock work but not in lenny before |
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| 14:37 | <upsilon> | reloading it a few times and no problems there, hopefully that's it |
| 14:37 | <imperia> | gcx |
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| 15:37 | <variable> | why i can't listen music and same time whach movie? |
| 15:38 | <variable> | or video pleyer turns off or there is no sound on one of it |
| 15:38 | <variable> | is there some solution to it? |
| 15:38 | <themill> | variable: is that a linux question or a cognitive capabilities question? |
| 15:38 | <variable> | linux |
| 15:38 | <themill> | !dmix |
| 15:38 | <dpkg> | methinks dmix is an alsa subsystem which allows a music device to play multiple sound streams simultaneously without the need for an external sound server. See http://alsa.opensrc.org/Dmix, or another sample asound.conf at img.hexus.net/v2/features/foss/a3/images/asound.conf, or http://phaeronix.net/asoundrc |
| 15:39 | <variable> | thanks |
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| 15:42 | <oWo2002> | Hi there... I'm looking for a way to monito usb voltage... I have a very strange behaviour of an usb stick... |
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| 15:56 | <hypnotic> | hi there, i am trying to add/create a primary partition to a hd that started with only one extended partition (with a couple of logical partitions inside). I used Gparted to make space in the extended and then schrunk the extended which create unallocated space before the extended. Then I made a primary partition but it gets number it becomes sda2 instead of sda1. This seems to create a troublesome partitiontable. Anybody know a way to correct it safely |
| 15:56 | <hypnotic> | without losing data? |
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| 15:59 | <weasel> | hypnotic: nothing wrong with having partitions in a weird order. |
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| 16:00 | <hypnotic> | not for linux ;) but it seems xp has problems with it, cant install xp anymore, screen becomes blank when booting the setup cd |
| 16:01 | <hypnotic> | and this all because of a stupid new nokia phone :S |
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| 16:30 | <EagleScreen> | hello. I have two computers connected by LAN: comp A has direct connection to Internet, comp B connects by connection of comp A, comp B now can ping to Internet addreses, for instane ping www.google.es, but cannot browse web pages or download files frim Internet, is this a DNS problem???? i have three DNS addresses in resolv.conf, one of then is working right now in comp A, do i need to do anything more??? |
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| 16:31 | <TheLegend> | Hi @all |
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| 16:33 | <variable> | !dmix |
| 16:33 | <dpkg> | somebody said dmix was an alsa subsystem which allows a music device to play multiple sound streams simultaneously without the need for an external sound server. See http://alsa.opensrc.org/Dmix, or another sample asound.conf at img.hexus.net/v2/features/foss/a3/images/asound.conf, or http://phaeronix.net/asoundrc |
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| 16:36 | <variable> | !esd |
| 16:36 | <dpkg> | rumour has it, esd is the enhanced segfault daemon, or the Enlightened Sound Daemon. Some interesting things that can be done include using 'mpg123' on a remote computer, and having it connect to a local esound daemon. AKA: Evil Sound Daemon, or "my views on esd are mostly unprintable." -- Alan Cox, or an EarSoreDaemon |
| 16:37 | <binaryhermit> | isn't esd more or less obsolete? |
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| 16:37 | <binaryhermit> | or is esd a gnome thing? |
| 16:37 | * | binaryhermit knows the KDE sound daemon thing is more or less dead upstream |
| 16:38 | <stevecotton> | I think ESD is dead too. |
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| 16:38 | <Lethalman> | neither gnome nor kde |
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| 16:39 | * | stevecotton had forgotten Enlightenment. Probably didn't have a graphics card to do much with it at that time. |
| 16:39 | <stevecotton> | !alsa |
| 16:39 | <dpkg> | ALSA is the Advanced Linux Sound Architecture. Debian has documentation at http://wiki.debian.org/ALSA or see <alsa install>, <alsa-checklist>, <alsa firmware>. #alsa on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 16:40 | <variable> | why i can't run two sounds with alsa? |
| 16:41 | <marcot> | Hello, I'm trying to run google-earth in debian, with Intel 945GM, but it's getting very slow. |
| 16:41 | <variable> | i should work |
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| 16:41 | <marcot> | In Kubuntu, in the same machine, it's very fast. I'm using the same xorg.conf |
| 16:41 | <marcot> | Any idea about where I could start searching for differences? |
| 16:41 | <marcot> | The kernel version of ubuntu is older, and the driver version too. |
| 16:41 | <variable> | how to check what version of alsa i have |
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| 16:42 | <stevecotton> | variable: it's part of the kernel |
| 16:42 | <stevecotton> | or at least part of it is |
| 16:44 | <variable> | I don't understand what is the problem, why i can hear just one player's sound |
| 16:44 | <qq-> | aptitude install alsa-oss alsaplayer mpg321 alsaplayer-alsa alsa-base alsa-tools alsa-utils alsamix* |
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| 16:46 | <variable> | hmm still same |
| 16:47 | <variable> | maby i need to reset alsaconf and then restart pc? |
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| 16:47 | <qq-> | restart pc only ... |
| 16:48 | <variable> | ok |
| 16:48 | <hachi> | I don't want to be cranky about this... but I really need to use the example: rpm has this concept of virtual packages for perl modules, so that you can depend on something like perl(Class::Accessor::Fast) and not be concerned with the fact that the package is actually perl-Class-Accessor. In debian land I'm searchiing for the equivalent operations or structure in place to solve this. |
| 16:48 | <marcot> | I've tried with debian in another machine, with NVidia propietary driver, and it's ok. |
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| 16:48 | <marcot> | I think it can be a problem with the newer driver, but I'm not sure. |
| 16:48 | <hachi> | How do you do this sort of thing in debian land? |
| 16:48 | <krlos> | hi...there are a dd wich experience in php packaging please |
| 16:49 | <qq-> | !php |
| 16:49 | <dpkg> | php is probably ask me about <install php> <php5> <php4 security> <php wants me to download still> <php mysql> <xampp> <phpmyadmin><php gd> |
| 16:49 | <krlos> | weel.. it is offtopic |
| 16:49 | <krlos> | weel := well |
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| 16:50 | <krlos> | i was lookin on debian mentors a dd for my package and I didn't found.. maybe here can I find one |
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| 16:51 | <chealer> | marcot: which X video driver do you use? |
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| 16:53 | <witte> | hello, I am trying to configure my microphone on debian unstable. I have 2.6.26-1-amd64, latest alsa-source package (done m-a a-i alsa-source), and my volume is not zero. |
| 16:53 | <witte> | arecord and aplay don't give me any sound though |
| 16:53 | <marcot> | chealer: intel |
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| 16:53 | <witte> | my card is 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02) |
| 16:54 | <marcot> | chealer: If I don't specify one, it uses, intel, but even when it's explicity it gets slow still |
| 16:54 | <noxis_> | Hi. Is it possible to show packages which were installed from experimental? I am using debian unstable. |
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| 16:55 | <KnuckOne> | witte, launch "amixer" in a terminal and paste it |
| 16:55 | -!- | [\\\][\\\] is now known as ][][][][][ |
| 16:55 | <KnuckOne> | !paster |
| 16:55 | <dpkg> | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 16:56 | <marcot> | chealer: any idea? For me it seems that Kubuntu configuration is the same, but with older stuff. |
| 16:56 | <marcot> | chealer: debian == lenny |
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| 16:57 | <chealer> | marcot: does that issue affect other software than google-earth? |
| 16:57 | <chealer> | noxis_: yes. use apt-show-versions |
| 16:58 | <marcot> | chealer: just a second. |
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| 16:58 | <witte> | http://pastebin.ca/1194110 |
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| 17:02 | <chealer> | hachi: with a virtual package |
| 17:02 | <witte> | KnuckOne: any ideas? |
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| 17:03 | <marcot> | chealer: No, it's just googleearth, strangely enough. |
| 17:03 | <marcot> | chealer: bzflag runs fine. |
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| 17:03 | <hachi> | chealer: like libfoo-perl ? |
| 17:04 | <hachi> | I just read over perl policy though, and section 4.2 only says packagers MAY do that |
| 17:04 | <KnuckOne> | i'm reading :) |
| 17:04 | <hachi> | doesn't even say should or must |
| 17:04 | <hachi> | so I can't depend on that in upstream |
| 17:04 | <chealer> | marcot: is the googleearth version the same? |
| 17:04 | <hachi> | unless perl-policy has been supplemented by some other document |
| 17:05 | <chealer> | hachi: I don't know perl, but maybe |
| 17:05 | <marcot> | chealer: the 4.2 works in both, 4.3, only in ubuntu. |
| 17:05 | <KnuckOne> | no witte all is set up the way it should |
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| 17:06 | <witte> | KnuckOne: that is what i thought |
| 17:06 | <marcot> | chealer: and in debian with NVidia. |
| 17:07 | <chealer> | marcot: does the issue affect ubuntu with googleearth 4.2? |
| 17:07 | <witte> | KnuckOne: it is just an unboard card, nothing special, and sound works fine. I'll try an other microphone |
| 17:07 | <KnuckOne> | ok |
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| 17:09 | <witte> | KnuckOne: there is more noise when I play something recorded, but nothing real. could that indicate a certain problem? |
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| 17:10 | <kop> | witte : It's possible it's an analog problem with inductive cross link. Are the speaker wires near AC power wires or anything like that? |
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| 17:11 | <witte> | kop: not really |
| 17:11 | <witte> | kop: i just plugged in a headphone with microphone to test it |
| 17:12 | <kop> | witte : (IIRC there's a bios setting to do something like randomly mess witht the clock frequency, but that's more a RF frequency thing and I can't see the connection to your problem, although anything's possible.) |
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| 17:32 | <daniiel> | anyone using prism 2.5 based wireless? |
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| 17:35 | <daniiel> | anyone around? |
| 17:35 | <witte> | !prism |
| 17:35 | <dpkg> | extra, extra, read all about it, prism is a family of wireless LAN chipsets produced by Intersil/Conexant. Ask me about <hostap>, <linux-wlan-ng> or <orinoco> for Prism 2/2.5/3 chipset support. Ask me about <prism54> for ISL38xx-based chipset support. Device list: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_chipset.php?chipset=Prism&zoek=Show |
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| 17:36 | <daniiel> | !hostap |
| 17:36 | <dpkg> | [hostap][hostap] a IEEE 802.11 device driver for Intersil (now Conexant) Prism version 2, 2.5 and 3 chipsets. http://hostap.epitest.fi/ Included in Linux kernel since 2.6.14. Only IEEE 802.11b is supported. Prism3-based cards may require additional firmware to be downloaded to the card, prior to operation (see /usr/share/doc/hostap-utils/README.Debian). FAQ: http://hostap.epitest.fi/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=hostap.git;a=blob_plain;f=FAQ |
| 17:37 | <daniiel> | by default debian is choosing the orinoco/hermes modules for my prism 2.5, how can i change that? |
| 17:38 | <daniiel> | cards are senao 2511cd plus ext2 |
| 17:38 | <marcot> | chealer: no, in Ubuntu both versions work. |
| 17:38 | <marcot> | chealer: sorry for the delay. |
| 17:38 | <scenestar> | ubuntu is gay |
| 17:39 | <EmleyMoor> | scenestar: Please don't tell me Ubuntu has anything in common with me <g> |
| 17:39 | <daniiel> | mine works with the hermes driver, but i keep getting eth3: Information Frame lost warnings by the thousands under bandwith load |
| 17:39 | <scenestar> | EmleyMoor, nah, i meant the other kind of gay |
| 17:39 | <scenestar> | not the homosexual one |
| 17:39 | <EmleyMoor> | Yes, thought you probably did... |
| 17:39 | <scenestar> | or they happy one |
| 17:39 | <scenestar> | whichever you prefer |
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| 17:45 | <daniiel> | anyone using prism 2.5 based wireless with debian? |
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| 17:46 | <daniiel> | !modules |
| 17:46 | <dpkg> | from memory, modules is a driver for a device (a part of a kernel) which can be dynamically loaded/unloaded.;; the Kernel's Secret Blend of Herbs and Spices, or to compile a module that doesn't come in the kernel, look into module-assistant |
| 17:48 | <witte> | daniiel: they should just work i think |
| 17:48 | <witte> | daniiel: you can see which modules you have loaded using lsmod |
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| 17:52 | <daniiel> | mine doesn't work, debian loads hermes, orinoco, and hostap. airmon-ng tells me debian is using the orinoco driver |
| 17:53 | <witte> | rmmod those drivers |
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| 17:53 | <daniiel> | and then modprobe the hostap? |
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| 17:54 | <EmleyMoor> | I hope zaptel-source is fixed in lenny soon - if not I will try my own fix this weekend |
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| 17:54 | <witte> | modprobe the prism driver |
| 17:54 | -!- | Guest5305 is now known as arne^ |
| 17:55 | <witte> | daniiel: mm, could be hostap |
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| 17:56 | <witte> | daniiel: just check the output of dmesg |tail after doing stuff |
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| 17:57 | <arne^> | does someone have an idea to what i can try to get kde to work with debian etch on a lenovo thinkpad t61, i've tried using the vesa drivers and lower the resolution, but i still get a black screen when the kde starts. i'm also using the x11 version which someone else had but the fix stated in the forum didnt work here |
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| 17:58 | <witte> | arne^: it should not be that difficult to get kde workign. Is a t61 a very old laptop? |
| 17:58 | <daniiel> | no, it's new, what kind of video card? |
| 17:58 | <daniiel> | hostap_pci: Registered netdevice wifi0 |
| 17:58 | <daniiel> | wifi0: Original COR value: 0x0 |
| 17:58 | <daniiel> | prism2_hw_init: initialized in 200 ms |
| 17:58 | <daniiel> | wifi0: hfa384x_cmd: entry still in list? (entry=eede97c0, type=0, res=0) |
| 17:58 | <daniiel> | wifi0: hfa384x_cmd: command was not completed (res=0, entry=eede97c0, type=0, cmd=0x0021, param0=0xfd0b, EVSTAT=8010 INTEN=0010) |
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| 17:58 | <arne^> | nvidia video card |
| 17:58 | <witte> | arne^: i also don't see how changing the video driver could affect the kde |
| 17:59 | <witte> | arne^: which one? lspci |grep -i vga |
| 17:59 | <arne^> | the kde never worked, so i tried using the generic driver without success |
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| 17:59 | <daniiel> | oops, i don't use irc very often=P |
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| 17:59 | <witte> | arne^: and gnome or icewm,.. |
| 18:00 | <witte> | daniiel: seems like you have the prism driver for interface wifi0 |
| 18:00 | <daniiel> | arne^ have you tried running dpkg-reconfigure server-xorg |
| 18:00 | <arne^> | i'm not sure if it's gnome or icewm.. and the lspci returns nvidia corporation unknown resource |
| 18:00 | <arne^> | unknown device |
| 18:00 | <EmleyMoor> | Is there a good PCI ADSL modem that will work with Debian and be capable of acting as part of a bridge? |
| 18:00 | <witte> | arne^: update-pciids |
| 18:00 | <daniiel> | lspci reveals: Network controller intersil prism 2.5 wavelan chipset |
| 18:01 | <witte> | daniiel: does it work now? |
| 18:01 | <daniiel> | no. |
| 18:02 | <witte> | daniiel: upload dmesg to a pastebin |
| 18:02 | <arne^> | i've tried the dpkg-reconfigure, but not sure what you mean by update-pciids |
| 18:02 | <witte> | daniiel: and "ifconfig -a" |
| 18:02 | <witte> | arne^: just type in a terminal |
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| 18:02 | <witte> | !pciids |
| 18:02 | <dpkg> | extra, extra, read all about it, pciids is run update-pciids or see http://pciids.sourceforge.net/, or run update-pciids to update your PCI ID database, if your lspci output shows "unknown device" |
| 18:02 | <daniiel> | it will work with the orinoco module, but i get "kprint Information Frame lost" thousands of times repressed |
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| 18:03 | <sysk> | !apt |
| 18:03 | <dpkg> | apt is probably Advanced Packaging Tool, a package management system used by Debian and its derivatives. There is no apt program per se; APT is a C++ library of functions that are used by several command line programs for dealing with packages, most notably apt-get, apt-cache, and aptitude. see also <apt-get> <apt-cache> |
| 18:04 | <sysk> | \o/ |
| 18:04 | <sysk> | !strings |
| 18:04 | <dpkg> | i guess strings is a program that extracts readable text out of binary files. It's nice for reading MS Word files and other such tripe. |
| 18:04 | <sysk> | :> |
| 18:04 | <witte> | !tell sysk about selftell |
| 18:04 | <witte> | ;-) |
| 18:05 | <witte> | !tell sysk about msg the bot |
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| 18:05 | <sysk> | ;> |
| 18:05 | <arne^> | nvidia corporation quadro nvs 140m (rev 1a), in my xorg.conf it tries to load an nvidia module but the error message says that there's no such module |
| 18:05 | <witte> | !nvidia |
| 18:05 | <dpkg> | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, ask me about <nvidia one-liner> for a reminder. If using a later release than Etch, ask me about <nvidia_post_etch>. nvidia.com drivers (ie. <nvidia-installer>) are _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
| 18:05 | <sysk> | witte: my apologies, i wont play with the chatty one anymore ;-) |
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| 18:06 | <witte> | sysk: no problem, you probably were not aware of the possibility to use it directly, so it was more educational and not a warning that i told you |
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| 18:06 | <WhitePower88> | white power http://stormfront.org |
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| 18:07 | <WhitePower88> | only one guy? fuck |
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| 18:07 | <scenestar> | hail aryan brother |
| 18:07 | -!- | mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
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| 18:07 | <sysk> | witte: not sure that i really needed those defs u know :P |
| 18:07 | -!- | mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 18:07 | <hachi> | thank you dondelelcaro |
| 18:07 | <arne^> | thank you witte, one more question is it possible to join several networks using irssi ? |
| 18:08 | <dondelelcaro> | arne^: yes |
| 18:08 | <dondelelcaro> | (I'm currently on about 7) |
| 18:08 | < | |> Sigh... |
| 18:08 | < | |> He's still sending. :'( |
| 18:09 | <superme> | lenny 2.6.26 on eeepc. I try to remove all beep sounds. I found the setting for the X (gnome) in system > preferences > sounds preferences. There is "disable system sounds", but there's still one beep after boot on the log screen, and when i shutdown, via tty or x. How can i remove them ? |
| 18:09 | <arne^> | dondelelcaro: got the parameter to start another irc server ? /server -m <network> which i'm used to didn't work |
| 18:09 | <hachi> | superme: I blacklist the pcspkr module myself :) |
| 18:09 | <dondelelcaro> | arne^: /connect foochatnet; or similar; /help connect |
| 18:10 | <hachi> | echo "blacklist pcspkr" >> /etc/modprobe.d/hachi |
| 18:10 | <hachi> | that's how I do it :) |
| 18:10 | <dondelelcaro> | arne^: /server is for switching servers, not connecting to a separate network |
| 18:10 | <superme> | hachi: why not. |
| 18:10 | <superme> | i try this technic |
| 18:10 | <hachi> | I hope it's what you're after |
| 18:10 | <hachi> | I'm usually just trying to disable all sounds :) |
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| 18:11 | <superme> | oh, i just want to remove *only* beeps. It does remove *every* sounds ? |
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| 18:11 | <dondelelcaro> | !bell |
| 18:11 | <dpkg> | extra, extra, read all about it, bell is "xset b off" in X, or "setterm -blength 0" in console . For some reason, bash beeps excessively when in emacs (default) mode. "set -o vi" puts it in vi editing mode, which doesn't beep on partial completions. See also <shell beep>. or "set bell-style none" in ~/.inputrc, or in konsole, Settings->Bell->Visible Bell |
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| 18:15 | <EmleyMoor> | Up to date on my laptop at last |
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| 18:32 | <user> | /server irc.buttes.org |
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| 19:10 | <client> | everytime i try to open my network setting, i get an error "you are not allowed to access the system configuratoin" |
| 19:10 | <client> | even if i try as root |
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| 19:15 | * | _sagitarius_ is away: No toy... |
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| 19:18 | <variable> | how to change keyboard layout or what is shortcut to do it? |
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| 19:23 | <chealer> | variable: which desktop environment do you use? |
| 19:24 | <variable> | gnome |
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| 20:03 | <kyle_> | how can i install java plugin for firefox ? |
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| 20:04 | <streuner> | install java |
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| 20:07 | <streuner> | !+tell kyle_ -about install java |
| 20:07 | <dpkg> | told kyle_ about install java. |
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| 20:37 | <Bladesman> | Hello. Does anyone know how the POS zipsplit program works? I've tried about every combination of parameters to get the stupid thing to make a split zip file, and nothing seems to work. |
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| 20:40 | <amphi> | Bladesman: why not make a zip archive and then use split(1) to split it? you only need cat the bits together afterwords to restore the file |
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| 20:53 | <thepretender84> | anyone having trouble trying to compile rainbowcrack on lenny? |
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| 21:38 | <ldiain> | does anyone know if the current debian sparc release will support the 32bit hyper sparcs? |
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| 21:40 | <abrotman> | !ig |
| 21:40 | <dpkg> | I heard "ig" is Installation Guide...see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual for Etch 4.0r4 stable, or http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/installmanual for now oldstable Sarge (3.1). Lenny is Testing! |
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| 21:45 | <ldiain> | Ok thanks seems my answer is yes my SS20 may have a new OS thanks |
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| 21:54 | <ldiain> | anyone else using hypersparcs - I hoping it my SS20 will make a nice unix workstation to run my eclipse IDE stuff on |
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| 21:56 | <qq-> | !etch->lenny |
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| 22:17 | <blarson> | ldiain: sun4m will not be supported in lenny. Etch is the last release of debian for them. |
| 22:18 | <blarson> | So you can run stable now, and have security support for a little over a year. |
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| 22:31 | <simonrvn> | WhitePower88: hey dumbass, go screw your boyfriend |
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| 22:43 | <binaryhermit> | simonrvn: way to tell someone who was kickbanned hours ago how you feel :P |
| 22:43 | * | binaryhermit believes that was just a racist exploit of the dcc send bug |
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| 22:46 | <simonrvn> | binaryhermit: i realized that later. oops :). |
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| 22:47 | <binaryhermit> | no big deal |
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| 22:50 | <The> | hello |
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| 22:51 | * | _sagitarius_ is away: No toy... |
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| 22:51 | <XXX> | hello |
| 22:52 | -!- | colby [~colby@lanip-170-65.go180.net] has joined #debian |
| 22:55 | -!- | _sagitarius_ [sagitarius@190.203.14.121] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] |
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| 22:57 | <XXX> | anyone knows about aircrack??? |
| 22:58 | -!- | XXX [~XXX@bas2-toronto01-1177854380.dsl.bell.ca] has left #debian [Leaving] |
| 22:58 | <qq-> | ask |
| 22:58 | <qq-> | !ask |
| 22:58 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 22:58 | <simonrvn> | no, since you keep leaving... |
| 22:59 | <simonrvn> | The ~XXX@bas2-toronto01-1177854380.dsl.bell.ca has joined #debian The ~XXX@bas2-toronto01-1177854380.dsl.bell.ca has quit () XXX ~XXX@bas2-toronto01-1177854380.dsl.bell.ca has joined #debian XXX ~XXX@bas2-toronto01-1177854380.dsl.bell.ca has left #debian (Leaving) |
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| 23:23 | -!- | Holborn [~holborn@237.Red-217-125-137.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] |
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| 23:29 | -!- | freealan [~freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] |
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| 23:34 | -!- | dmoerner [~dmr@ppp-71-139-13-140.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
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| 23:40 | -!- | RIVE [~cesar@201.148.26.98] has joined #debian |
| 23:40 | <RIVE> | Hi, good evening. |
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| 23:53 | -!- | SD [dalek@178.28.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #debian |
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| --- | Log | closed Fri Sep 05 00:00:41 2008 |
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