| --- | Log | opened Fri Nov 23 00:00:03 2007 |
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| 00:18 | <twb> | I want to give a user a command line that will prevent init.d service `foo' from starting at boot. I normally would do this using rcconf, but that requires interaction. Should I tell him to run "update-rc.d -f foo remove"? |
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| 01:02 | <fous> | hi everyone |
| 01:02 | <fous> | anyone up ? |
| 01:03 | <twb> | No. |
| 01:03 | <fous> | lol |
| 01:03 | <twb> | I'm not anyone. |
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| 01:03 | <fous> | o ok |
| 01:03 | <fous> | ur someone cool |
| 01:04 | <fous> | I have a few questions like always |
| 01:04 | <fous> | so how do I set up samba server to have permissions for a user |
| 01:04 | <twb> | I am not from Ur. |
| 01:05 | <fous> | ur? |
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| 01:05 | <twb> | Ur was a city in, I believe, what is not the middle east. |
| 01:05 | <twb> | s/not/now/ |
| 01:06 | <fous> | o ok |
| 01:06 | <twb> | Yes, it is in Iraq. |
| 01:06 | <fous> | well im from nyc |
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| 01:11 | <simonrvn> | !ur |
| 01:11 | <dpkg> | Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. Also swedish for clock, and a swedish word meaning "from within". a german prefix for refering to something very old Urdu, a language based on the arabic script spoken like hindi. For debian support in urdu/hindi join #debian-ur. Urdu/punjai/hindi support ke liye #debian-ur mein tashreef le ayen. Shukrya. |
| 01:11 | <long> | nyc? I thought u r sleeping now |
| 01:11 | <long> | I mean now |
| 01:12 | <fous> | na |
| 01:12 | <fous> | working lol |
| 01:12 | <fous> | wondering if anyone on here was awake |
| 01:12 | <fous> | lol |
| 01:12 | <simonrvn> | | |
| 01:12 | <fous> | it's quiet |
| 01:12 | <simonrvn> | / \ |
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| 01:17 | <yos87> | Hi |
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| 01:18 | <yos87> | somebody know a package to send and recieve bluetooth in the graphic mode? |
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| 01:20 | <mankod> | yos87, bluez-gnome |
| 01:23 | <yos87> | mankod: I install it, where it is now? |
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| 01:26 | <simonrvn> | uh, you could run it from a term... |
| 01:27 | <mankod> | yos87, dpgk -L bluez-gnome |
| 01:27 | <yos87> | simonrvn: I don't know you are in both channel |
| 01:27 | <simonrvn> | many are |
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| 01:39 | <twb> | yos87: *did not, channels |
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| 01:49 | <yos87> | simonrvn: I'm sending files from my mobile to the pc, But I don't know where it's going |
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| 01:55 | <cafuego> | yos87: Mine end up on my desktop; you may want to check ~/ too. |
| 01:57 | <yos87> | cafuego: before it was going to my home dir, But now, I don't know where it's going! , when I send the same file again, it fail to send, becasue it's saved on the pc |
| 01:57 | <yos87> | how can I choose the location where is bluetooth file coming? |
| 01:59 | <cafuego> | yos87: `find' is your friend then. |
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| 02:00 | <yos87> | I did that already, I couldn't find anything |
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| 03:09 | <F4RL> | hello |
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| 03:11 | <_HAL_> | hello |
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| 03:17 | <Sescevok> | anyone here? |
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| 03:19 | <muep> | none |
| 03:21 | <Sescevok> | ahh |
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| 03:26 | <Sescevok> | gnome or KDE? |
| 03:28 | <twb> | Sescevok: no thank you. |
| 03:28 | <shilow> | anyone here been able to compile bitchx from source on debian sid? |
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| 03:29 | <Sescevok> | twb: neither for you huh? |
| 03:29 | <twb> | shilow: what's the source package? |
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| 03:29 | <muep> | Sescevok: many choose something else, but there are usually as many opinions as there are people discussing |
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| 03:30 | <twb> | muep: I disagree. |
| 03:30 | <muep> | see? |
| 03:30 | <long_> | Is anyone using KDE4 , what about it? |
| 03:31 | <shilow> | twb: its just a tarball the src fromt he ftp |
| 03:31 | <twb> | shilow: foolish! |
| 03:31 | <twb> | shilow: bitchx is already packaged for Debian. |
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| 03:31 | <shilow> | the deps for bitchx-gtk are broken in sid |
| 03:32 | <shilow> | bitchx-gtk: Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not installable |
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| 03:34 | <twb> | Good heavens |
| 03:34 | <Sescevok> | muep: i agree |
| 03:34 | <twb> | Apparently bitchx's source package is ircii-pana |
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| 03:35 | <Sescevok> | irssi |
| 03:35 | <twb> | shilow: bitchx appears to be scheduled for removal |
| 03:35 | <twb> | http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?packages=ircii-pana |
| 03:35 | <twb> | http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/ircii-pana.html |
| 03:35 | <shilow> | can you point me in a howtoo to compile source deb packages? |
| 03:36 | <chealer> | long_: ask #debian-kde |
| 03:36 | <long_> | which IRC client are you using? what's the advantage? |
| 03:36 | <twb> | long_: rcirc |
| 03:37 | <twb> | shilow: I gotta go, someone else will know |
| 03:37 | <twb> | !source |
| 03:37 | <dpkg> | To work with Debian source packages, cd to a location with free space. as root: 'aptitude install build-essential fakeroot devscripts' and 'apt-get build-dep {packagename}'. as any user: 'apt-get source {packagename}', cd into the directory it creates, edit 'debian/rules' to suit, run 'debuild -us -uc'. |
| 03:37 | <shilow> | well thx for the info |
| 03:38 | <twb> | bitchx is goin' down, see the BTS entry |
| 03:38 | <shilow> | yea |
| 03:38 | <twb> | It apparently has unaddressed CVE (security vulnerabilities) |
| 03:39 | <shilow> | figures withthat backdoor that was in cypress |
| 03:39 | <twb> | That bein' the case, I don't know why you want it. |
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| 03:40 | <shilow> | well you changed my mind |
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| 03:40 | <shilow> | reccomed any x based irc clients |
| 03:40 | <shilow> | i dont like kvirc |
| 03:40 | <shilow> | and i dont liek xchat |
| 03:40 | <shilow> | windows are too bright and blind me |
| 03:41 | <muep> | shilow: colors can be adjusted with themes and settings |
| 03:41 | <sep> | shilow, xchat ->settings->preferences->interface->colors |
| 03:41 | <shilow> | only way i coudl adjust mien was my theme for my gnome |
| 03:42 | <muep> | shilow: most clients let you also select background and text color |
| 03:42 | <shilow> | i have that set its just the grey |
| 03:42 | <muep> | at least xchat did when I last used it |
| 03:42 | <shilow> | it's ugly |
| 03:42 | <shilow> | the gnome one works good but it seems so stripped |
| 03:42 | <dli> | shilow, pidgin |
| 03:42 | <shilow> | pidgin uses xchat |
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| 03:43 | <shilow> | i' |
| 03:43 | <muep> | shilow: why not select some color instead of the gray? |
| 03:43 | <shilow> | i'll have to tweek settings so its not so annoying and get used to it |
| 03:43 | <shilow> | my theme is black on my desktop it didn't carry over |
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| 03:43 | <shilow> | i'm fiddling with it to see if i can dim it down |
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| 03:44 | <long_> | i think the color theme "tango" in gnome-terminal is most comfortble |
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| 03:45 | <shilow> | i made everything black once in xchat but i did it by modding the hell out of my desktop |
| 03:45 | <shilow> | but then i couldn't see anything in entry fields on web pages |
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| 03:46 | <shilow> | maybe i'll google xchat for some scripts |
| 03:47 | <bzed> | just use irssi :) |
| 03:47 | <shilow> | imma try it .. |
| 03:47 | <Sescevok> | irssi gets my vote |
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| 03:48 | <shilow> | anything is better than looking at xchat |
| 03:48 | <shilow> | the widgets are ugly |
| 03:48 | <shilow> | and its too bright |
| 03:48 | <shilow> | ohh nice |
| 03:48 | <shilow> | i tihnk i have a winner |
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| 03:50 | <shilow> | how do you list users |
| 03:50 | <shilow> | i need a howtoo brb |
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| 03:55 | <t3r0r> | Hello |
| 03:55 | <t3r0r> | I need help |
| 03:55 | <t3r0r> | My friend deleted /usr/lib/apache ....and now I have problems ...I can`t use apt-get command... |
| 03:55 | <t3r0r> | anyone ??????/ |
| 03:56 | <dli> | t3r0r: what's wrong with apt-get? |
| 03:57 | <t3r0r> | I don`t know ... I can`t use it.... |
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| 03:58 | <svecias> | Hi |
| 03:58 | <svecias> | How do you do? |
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| 03:59 | <dli> | t3r0r: you should ask for permission before private msg |
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| 04:00 | <bzed> | shilow: scripts are in /usr/share/irssi/scripts and a good documentation at irssi.org |
| 04:00 | <|_Tr0mP4s> | hi |
| 04:00 | <shilow> | thats where i am at and i was waiting for updatedb to finish |
| 04:00 | <shilow> | thx |
| 04:00 | <bzed> | shilow: or just google for irssi howtos, there're a lot of interesting ones around |
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| 04:01 | <shilow> | is there a key binded to list people int he room by default |
| 04:01 | <|_Tr0mP4s> | i installed debian testing 4.0 amd64 and i want the repos |
| 04:02 | <|_Tr0mP4s> | please! |
| 04:02 | <sep> | !mirrors |
| 04:02 | <dpkg> | [debian mirrors][debian mirrors] http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-setup> or <apt-spy> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ |
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| 04:02 | <bzed> | shilow: /names |
| 04:02 | <shilow> | ahhh |
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| 04:03 | <|_Tr0mP4s> | thanx sep |
| 04:03 | <bzed> | shilow: if you run irssi in a screen you could also use the nicklist plugin, but that's unfortunately a bit annoying as you can copy several lines anymore, you always have the names on the right side |
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| 04:04 | <shilow> | i loaded nicklist but dont see anything |
| 04:04 | <shilow> | god i feel restarded |
| 04:04 | <shilow> | i hate change |
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| 04:06 | <shilow> | wtf japanese chars |
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| 04:06 | <shilow> | thats new |
| 04:07 | <long> | i just installed irssi,looks good |
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| 04:09 | <shilow> | i know i like it |
| 04:09 | <shilow> | still reading on the window management |
| 04:09 | <shilow> | wish i coudl double the side of the bottom bar |
| 04:09 | <shilow> | size* |
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| 04:10 | <shilow> | hmm non verbose away system |
| 04:13 | <long> | help |
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| 04:13 | <|_Tr0mP4s> | sep i have amd64.. is there any problem?¿ i´m spanish.. sorry, mi english is very bad |
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| 04:14 | <sep> | |_Tr0mP4s, no problem |
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| 04:15 | <sep> | |_Tr0mP4s, ofcourse you can have problems with spesific software, but those repos should have all arches |
| 04:17 | <|_Tr0mP4s> | i need ndiswrapper for install mi wireless drivers.. are broadcom intel wireless dell 1390 .. you know any problem with ndiswrapper and debian testing amd64? i not found this packet |
| 04:17 | <gsimmons> | !tell |_Tr0mP4s -about ndiswrapper |
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| 04:19 | <|_Tr0mP4s> | only x86! |
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| 04:22 | <|_Tr0mP4s> | i have go out. Thanx every people! |
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| 04:58 | <xayon> | Hi, I'm on lenny having problems with ata disk at shutdown time. It says something about my ata disk and it says I must upgrade my shutdown version, next boot it says disk wasnt correctly unmounted |
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| 05:02 | <JasonS> | anyone have any concrete reasons as to why not having x on a server is a good thing? need to present a good case why i dont want to install it on a server at work |
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| 05:07 | <Nemoder> | only reason I can think of is the cpu/memory it takes up, although you could still keep it installed and just remove gdm so it doesn't load on startup |
| 05:07 | <koollman> | JasonS: useless running network services are potential security gap |
| 05:08 | <JasonS> | i like that one koollman, it will appeal to govt management types |
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| 05:11 | <susanne--> | trying to use an older ATI chip. don't need 3d or acceleration or anything. i'm getting "Failed to set up write-combining range" out of Xorg.0.log. What next? |
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| 05:11 | <padski> | susanne--: tried using vesa drivers ? |
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| 05:46 | <zamolxes> | hey. I changed the motherboard and eth0 became eth3. looking in /etc I found /udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules , can I just edit this? |
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| 05:46 | <jm_> | yes |
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| 05:47 | <zamolxes> | and whoever automatically changed that file doesn't mind my manual editting? Where do I read about this? |
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| 05:49 | <gsimmons> | !tell zamolxes -about z25 |
| 05:49 | <zamolxes> | thanks |
| 05:49 | <jm_> | you can simply remove it and it will be created as eth0 on next start I believe |
| 05:50 | <jm_> | the same applies to cdrom devices too |
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| 06:06 | <monra> | hi |
| 06:08 | <monra> | Is there any way that i can now if someone with other account did ls in my home directory or so? |
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| 06:08 | <monra> | any ideas? |
| 06:08 | <simonrvn> | s,now,know, |
| 06:09 | <simonrvn> | process accounting, but isn't that a little overkill? |
| 06:09 | <monra> | simonrvn, are you answereing to me? |
| 06:09 | <simonrvn> | if you're worried that someone might've run ls on your dir, you don't want to be administering a network ;) |
| 06:09 | <monra> | cause s, now and know don't owrk |
| 06:10 | <monra> | simonrvn, i had erxercises in my account let with rw-r--r-- and i want to be sure noone stole them |
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| 06:11 | <simonrvn> | the s,,, is sed. what's "erxercises"? |
| 06:11 | <monra> | simonrvn, i has some .odt files with the English I lesson |
| 06:12 | <simonrvn> | ok |
| 06:12 | <simonrvn> | so chmod them |
| 06:12 | <monra> | i did now but |
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| 06:12 | <monra> | how will check if not readen. what do you mean with s? |
| 06:12 | <monra> | sed? |
| 06:12 | <simonrvn> | man sed |
| 06:13 | |-| | mode/#debian [+l 285] by debhelper |
| 06:13 | <simonrvn> | um, i'll be honest with you, i think that's a bit paranoid |
| 06:13 | <monra> | what? |
| 06:14 | <witte> | monra: ignore the sed thing, simonrvn just pointed you to a typo |
| 06:14 | <monra> | witte, hmm.. so what should i do? |
| 06:14 | <witte> | monra: if those things you had in your directory are for exams or something, make new ones |
| 06:14 | <witte> | :-) |
| 06:15 | <monra> | witte, is there any way to check if someone show them? or visited my home directory? |
| 06:15 | |-| | ewanm89 changed nick to Cap_J_L_Picard |
| 06:15 | |-| | Cap_J_L_Picard changed nick to ewanm89 |
| 06:15 | <witte> | monra: i do not know of any way to do so if you did not do anything beforehand |
| 06:15 | <simonrvn> | put them in a dir chmodded 700 then. |
| 06:16 | [~] | simonrvn sighs |
| 06:16 | <monra> | simonrvn, i already did |
| 06:16 | <witte> | simonrvn: I think monra knows, i think he just noticed that they weren't before... |
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| 06:17 | <witte> | monra: are you maintainer of the machine? |
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| 06:17 | <witte> | you could check bash_history of everyone but that would not be very ethical, and no assurance |
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| 06:17 | <monra> | witte ( could idea) |
| 06:18 | <monra> | ooops... impossible ... i'm not maintener of the machine |
| 06:18 | <monra> | so permission denied |
| 06:18 | <simonrvn> | i get that, but like i said, it doesn't sound like they were secret, more concern about privacy |
| 06:19 | <simonrvn> | barn. door. horse. |
| 06:19 | <witte> | monra: well, you shouldn't anyhow. Just be more carefull next time |
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| 06:20 | <monra> | witte, ok |
| 06:20 | <monra> | thanlks |
| 06:20 | <witte> | simonrvn: ? |
| 06:20 | <simonrvn> | closing the barn door when the horse already excaped |
| 06:20 | <simonrvn> | escaped* |
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| 06:20 | <witte> | simonrvn: ah ok, i am not so familiar with all the english expressions :-) |
| 06:21 | <simonrvn> | :) |
| 06:21 | <mrkangaroo> | hi Im getting this error when Im trying to start X as a user "Cannot open "/var/tmp/server-0.xkm" to write keyboard description" |
| 06:21 | <mrkangaroo> | can anyone help thanks :))))) |
| 06:22 | <simonrvn> | check the /var/tmp perms |
| 06:22 | <mrkangaroo> | how cat |
| 06:22 | <simonrvn> | drwxrwxrwt 4 root root 44K 2007-11-20 01:07 /var/tmp/ |
| 06:22 | <mrkangaroo> | ok |
| 06:22 | <witte> | mrkangaroo: do ls -al /var/tmp/ |
| 06:22 | <simonrvn> | ls -ld |
| 06:23 | <witte> | indeed, better |
| 06:23 | <mrkangaroo> | one sec |
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| 06:23 | <mrkangaroo> | drwxr-xr-t 3 root root 4096 Nov 23 21:24 /var/tmp |
| 06:23 | <mrkangaroo> | wrong perms |
| 06:24 | <mrkangaroo> | i suppose |
| 06:24 | <simonrvn> | well, that's why |
| 06:24 | <simonrvn> | yeh |
| 06:24 | <mrkangaroo> | chmod 755 |
| 06:24 | <simonrvn> | no, 1777 |
| 06:24 | <mrkangaroo> | k |
| 06:24 | <mrkangaroo> | one sec |
| 06:25 | <mrkangaroo> | ill try starx see how it goes |
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| 06:26 | <mrkangaroo> | that fixed that last error in the output but im getting another one ahead of it "AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable |
| 06:27 | <entuall> | hello |
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| 06:32 | <ifoxe> | join #LinPeople |
| 06:35 | <mrkangaroo> | im using the glx module for X and it seems that after reconfiguring X it detected the right video card is there another module that may be appropriate that anyone here might know of the video card is nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600] thnx |
| 06:36 | <jm_> | for nvidia cards you need nvidia's binary only driver to use glx |
| 06:36 | <mrkangaroo> | im using the nv driver |
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| 06:37 | <mrkangaroo> | and ive used it on ubuntu, kubuntu amongst others |
| 06:37 | <jm_> | that won't work, unless you'll use software renderer which is painfully slow |
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| 06:38 | <dli> | mrkangaroo: try nouveau, which should be faster than nv |
| 06:38 | <mrkangaroo> | ill bite the bullet and get the nvidia driver then I want to install compiz so it seems the go |
| 06:38 | <mrkangaroo> | nouveau is that installed be default |
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| 06:45 | <mrkangaroo> | what im trying to work out is why is kdm working and I can get to a login screen but I cant start x from the prompt giving me the error about not being DRI capable |
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| 06:46 | <jm_> | might depend on which window manager you're using |
| 06:47 | <tamburello> | ciao |
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| 06:47 | <tamburello> | !list |
| 06:47 | <dpkg> | one warez list being sent to tamburello |
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| 06:47 | <mrkangaroo> | im using kdm |
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| 06:49 | <jm_> | that's a display manager |
| 06:50 | <zamolxes> | thanks jm_ , gsimmons |
| 06:51 | <mrkangaroo> | I just tried to download the nvidea driver from their website and it seems lynx is banned :(((( |
| 06:51 | <jm_> | !nvidia |
| 06:51 | <dpkg> | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, ask me about <nvidia one-liner> for a reminder. |
| 06:51 | <jm_> | read that |
| 06:51 | <mrkangaroo> | thnx |
| 06:52 | <Nemoder> | nvidia.com works ok in lynx for me |
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| 06:53 | <jm_> | it does yes - they used javascript a few years ago, but then they changed it and added download links for text only browsers |
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| 06:57 | <BR_> | hey all, I am getting dog slow performance with libnss-ldap on etch, it seems to get a entire group list which is slow to do (lots of groups) instead of just asking which groups I am a member of (fast). Any ideas why this might be and how to fix? |
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| 06:58 | <jm_> | tried using nscd? |
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| 06:58 | <BR_> | yes, it doesn't help much |
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| 07:00 | <BR_> | its v251 on debian etch (slow), v257 on fedora 8 (fast), and I have tried backport v258 from lenny (slow). All querying the same ldap server... |
| 07:01 | <jm_> | maybe compare their configurations too |
| 07:01 | <BR_> | I have, most are comments, copying from f8 to etch doesn't help the situation.... |
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| 07:01 | <jm_> | bummer |
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| 07:02 | <BR_> | yup that it be... |
| 07:03 | <BR_> | both distribs apply some patches, but none seem to changing the effect of group lookups. |
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| 07:03 | <musca> | moin |
| 07:04 | <jm_> | I never used it but maybe looking at the queries they perform would reveal something - of course that would still leave you with why that is so |
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| 07:05 | <BR_> | I can see the problem with the queries... debian grabs a full groups list, fedora asks what groups I am part of. |
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| 07:05 | <BR_> | its the why I cannot see |
| 07:05 | <jm_> | and that's not specified in the config file then? |
| 07:05 | <BR_> | jm_: seems not... |
| 07:05 | <jm_> | BR_: maybe defaults are different? |
| 07:06 | <BR_> | jm_ that would have to be done via a patch (AFAIK) and there isn't one for that in either distrib's src packages... |
| 07:08 | <BR_> | debian does alter some timeout values, but thats not it. |
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| 07:10 | <jm_> | then I'm out of ideas |
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| 07:11 | <jm_> | how about PAM - is that involved too? |
| 07:11 | <BR_> | no, not with commands like 'id' |
| 07:14 | <jm_> | nothing similar in BTS that I can see |
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| 07:16 | <jm_> | well debugging source code shall reveal how it constructs the query |
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| 07:21 | <mrkangaroo> | !nvidea |
| 07:21 | <dpkg> | hmm... nvidea is that company that makes 'closed-source' drivers for their hardware?, or spelled wrong |
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| 07:22 | <witte> | !nvidia |
| 07:22 | <dpkg> | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, ask me about <nvidia one-liner> for a reminder. |
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| 07:26 | <BR_> | OK Thats it, going to cry. |
| 07:27 | [~] | witte gives BR_ a handkerchief |
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| 07:31 | <mrkangaroo> | theres no support for debian nvidia drivers in testing so im going to have to go the bunary route |
| 07:31 | <mrkangaroo> | binary |
| 07:32 | <jm_> | you can use the version frm unstable |
| 07:32 | <jm_> | !simple sid backport |
| 07:32 | <dpkg> | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. |
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| 07:34 | <mrkangaroo> | im doing this tomorroww its to late thnx for the help |
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| 07:35 | <mrkangaroo> | i know the debian install of nvidia is cleaner but i think im going to get the package |
| 07:35 | <mrkangaroo> | thnx anywat jm see ya |
| 07:35 | <mrkangaroo> | anyway |
| 07:35 | <mrkangaroo> | exit |
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| 07:35 | <mrkangaroo> | !exit |
| 07:35 | <dpkg> | /quit you fool! |
| 07:36 | <mrkangaroo> | whered that come from lol |
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| 08:02 | <christoph> | huston! mein debian fährt nicht mehr runter :). Hallo ich habe den Bug, dass mein laptop bei nem shutdown nachdem er irgendwas vom dhcpclient schreibt ( nichts wichtiges.. nur sowas wie Internet system consortium .. please visit.. ) aufört mit dem prozess |
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| 08:03 | <christoph> | ne idee woran das liegen könne? |
| 08:03 | <christoph> | wrong lang.. sorry |
| 08:04 | <christoph> | my debian stops shutting down after writing something like: Internet System COnsortium.. please visit... etc .. any idea what may be a fix for this? |
| 08:04 | <ifoxe> | huh? |
| 08:05 | <ifoxe> | where do u write that? |
| 08:05 | <christoph> | hum? in #debian? |
| 08:05 | <ifoxe> | huh? u mean ur mirc client? |
| 08:06 | <ifoxe> | or shell? |
| 08:06 | <christoph> | xchat |
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| 08:06 | <ifoxe> | i dunno what can be , spamm? |
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| 08:07 | <azeem> | ifoxe: what are you talking about? |
| 08:07 | <ifoxe> | maybe u get kicked because its like spam or someting |
| 08:07 | <ifoxe> | christoph |
| 08:07 | <ifoxe> | <christoph> my debian stops shutting down after writing something like: Internet |
| 08:07 | <ifoxe> | System COnsortium.. please visit... etc .. any idea what may be a fix |
| 08:07 | <ifoxe> | for this? |
| 08:07 | <azeem> | he didn't get kicked |
| 08:08 | <christoph> | 0o... my system can'T shut down and this is the last thing he writes ..after that he does nothing... i thought this little shell -ad ;) is usefull to know to fix the problem |
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| 08:10 | <christoph> | any ideas? |
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| 08:16 | <subha> | hi all |
| 08:16 | <Maulkin> | christoph: sounds like bind... |
| 08:18 | <subha> | why during local-net-installation time during 'hw-detect' phase it failing to detect my HDD while during normal installation time from cd its going fine..?? |
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| 08:20 | <Maulkin> | subha: try #debian-boot |
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| 08:23 | <subha> | is there anybody who got the same experience/ |
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| 08:25 | <ifoxe> | subha |
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| 08:25 | <subha> | ifoxe:yes.. |
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| 08:30 | <ifoxe> | r u trying to install it on a laptop ? |
| 08:30 | <ifoxe> | or dell maybe? |
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| 08:37 | <subha> | ifoxe:no desktop computer..i386 hardware |
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| 08:38 | <subha> | it's actually giving :kernel: ata_piix: Unknown symbol ata_scsi_ioctl |
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| 08:38 | <subha> | these messages..and many other unknown symbols |
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| 08:39 | <subha> | then it's coming with some list of kernel modules to load manually..but it fails every time |
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| 08:40 | <zoLev> | ! |
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| 08:55 | <jafd> | Hello people, are there any semi-automated systems to build custom debian-based distributions which differ from mainline debian probably by some patches in some packages, defaults etc.? |
| 08:56 | <jafd> | (not to make another *buntu, but to rather make OEMs happy with customized Debians) |
| 08:56 | <jm_> | !pbuilder |
| 08:56 | <dpkg> | rumour has it, pbuilder is a package which creates a chroot for building packages which are optionally targetted at releases other than the currently installed release. It is useful for checking that a package has the correct build-dependencies as well. apt-get install pbuilder && pager /usr/share/doc/pbuilder/README.Debian |
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| 08:57 | <jafd> | Hmmm... can it be tuned to make a full distro and wrap it up onto a nice ISO? |
| 08:58 | <jm_> | no there are other packages that do that |
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| 08:59 | <jafd> | heh, i was just wondering if it's simpler to actually reinvent that damn wheel than to gather all of that stuff together in hopes it will work someday. |
| 08:59 | <jafd> | Seems like wheels are the way to go? |
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| 08:59 | <jafd> | Sorry, not ? but ! |
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| 09:07 | <munga> | !dfsbuild |
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| 09:09 | <munga> | jafd: have a look at dfsbuild |
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| 09:16 | <supaman> | hey, when creating a debian package what dh_ rules do I put in so it handles the postinst and postrm scripts? |
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| 09:40 | <Stumped> | + |
| 09:41 | <petemc> | - |
| 09:41 | <Stumped> | just testing |
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| 09:43 | |-| | mode/#debian [+l 299] by debhelper |
| 09:45 | <v4mpire> | guys any chance of help on this |
| 09:45 | <v4mpire> | *** 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.12.0, but GLIB (2.12.4) |
| 09:45 | <v4mpire> | *** was found! If pkg-config was correct, then it is best |
| 09:45 | <Stumped> | I stumped. I have a Logitech MX3200 keyboard and MX610 mouse. |
| 09:46 | <Stumped> | However, I have several problems. Below is the snippet of the log: |
| 09:46 | <Stumped> | --- START LOG --- |
| 09:46 | <petemc> | dont paste here |
| 09:46 | <Stumped> | Generic Keyboard-usb-0000:00:1d.0-2/input1: Core Keyboard |
| 09:47 | <Stumped> | OK.....oops |
| 09:47 | <Stumped> | then do want me to dcc the log file? |
| 09:47 | <petemc> | pastebin it |
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| 09:47 | <Stumped> | ok |
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| 09:53 | <Stumped> | a |
| 09:54 | <Stumped> | When pasting something via pastebin, is there a limit? |
| 09:54 | <Stumped> | Do I have to post the entire log file??? |
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| 09:54 | <petemc> | you post whats relevant |
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| 09:55 | <Stumped> | ok |
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| 09:59 | <mrkangaroo> | hi im having a problem getting X started can someone take a look at this pastebin http://pastebin.ca/794906 thanks |
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| 10:05 | <oxynet> | anybody know where can i find mjpegtool, transcode and subtitleripper? |
| 10:05 | <petemc> | if i had to guess, id say debian-multimedia |
| 10:05 | <mrkangaroo> | aptitude search pattern |
| 10:06 | <oxynet> | petemc, do you have the address to the debian-multimidia to set on sources.list? |
| 10:07 | <petemc> | !debian-multimedia.etch |
| 10:07 | <dpkg> | To add the debian-multimedia repository, first ask me about <apt-key 1F41B907>. then, run # echo "deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list; apt-get update; (as root), or install the debian-multimedia-keyring package from the debian-multimedia.org repository. |
| 10:07 | <oxynet> | thanks |
| 10:09 | <oxynet> | !apt-key 1F41B907 |
| 10:09 | <dpkg> | gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907 ; gpg --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add - |
| 10:09 | <mrkangaroo> | lol |
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| 10:11 | <S3v3N> | Hello. I have never got this problems before when compiling before, what could the problem be? Errors: http://pastebin.ca/794921 ! |
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| 10:15 | <FuXor> | Hi guys, any experience with ldap :D? |
| 10:15 | <S3v3N> | sry for wrong question |
| 10:15 | <S3v3N> | Hello. I have never got this problems before when compiling psybnc2.3.2-7 from psybnc.at, what could the problem be? Errors: http://pastebin.ca/794921 ! |
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| 10:18 | <FuXor> | #ldap (irc.debian.org) |
| 10:18 | <FuXor> | I'm setting up an openldap server (using VMware), to get the hang of ldap. |
| 10:18 | <FuXor> | I've already figured out how to compile / install both openldap 2.4.6 and berkeley db 4.6.21. |
| 10:18 | <FuXor> | A standard (no desktop) installation of debian etch however, already contains openldap (libldap2)! It seems |
| 10:18 | <FuXor> | that practically the whole system is dependant on libldap2. Removing it also removes apt, gnupg and various other (vital) |
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| 10:24 | <mrkangaroo> | can anyone help out |
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| 10:29 | <mrkangaroo> | hi im having a problem getting X started can someone take a look at this pastebin http://pastebin.ca/794906 thanks |
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| 10:34 | <budzio> | hello can any one help me |
| 10:34 | <budzio> | ? |
| 10:35 | <petemc> | if you have a debian related question, just ask it |
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| 10:35 | <budzio> | I have problem with downloading cd img |
| 10:35 | <budzio> | by torrent |
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| 10:35 | <Cammarro> | :) |
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| 10:36 | <budzio> | Iwant to download amd64 testing ans i have info |
| 10:36 | <budzio> | Failure: Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker. |
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| 10:36 | <budzio> | with dvd version thesame |
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| 10:37 | <budzio> | with etch there is no problem |
| 10:38 | <budzio> | so it is debian related question :) |
| 10:38 | <budzio> | anny help? |
| 10:38 | <budzio> | don't be shy |
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| 10:38 | <budzio> | =] |
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| 10:39 | <budzio> | :( |
| 10:40 | <musca> | budzio: which torrent-client do you use? |
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| 10:42 | <PriitM> | Hi! is it possible to install and run i386 wine on x86_64 debian? |
| 10:42 | <budzio> | musca: utorrent |
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| 10:44 | <musca> | budzio: And wget is no Option for you? |
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| 10:46 | <budzio> | I use win xp so ther is no option :P but I have also downloaded 2times image by http and I have md5 errors |
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| 10:50 | <musca> | budzio: there is a wget.exe for windows, works quite good. |
| 10:50 | <budzio> | can it resume after computer reboot |
| 10:51 | <musca> | budzio: start with "wget -d url", resume with "wget -c -d url" |
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| 10:53 | <hw_> | mpg123 still the best audio player for shell? |
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| 10:53 | <sandpit> | how do i install flash player for firefox (aka iceweasel) on amd64? i install the tar.gz file from adobe.com but it says x86_64 isn't supported! |
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| 10:54 | <panagos> | how do i install flash player for firefox (aka iceweasel) on amd64? i install the tar.gz file from adobe.com but it says x86_64 isn't supported! |
| 10:55 | <cahoot> | hw_: mplayer is a competent alternative |
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| 10:55 | <luciana> | hi |
| 10:55 | <luciana> | there's someone? |
| 10:55 | <Cammarro> | just some 300 ones... :) |
| 10:55 | <luciana> | :) |
| 10:55 | <luciana> | I have a problem with a preseed file |
| 10:56 | <luciana> | On Ubuntu server nobody answer |
| 10:56 | <luciana> | :s |
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| 10:57 | <luciana> | i'm creating a customized distro of ubuntu |
| 10:57 | <hw_> | cahoot: hm |
| 10:57 | <cahoot> | hw_: but 'best' is rather subjective |
| 10:58 | <luciana> | and i have to launch a script.sh during the installation |
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| 10:58 | <luciana> | now, i have added in my preseed file this line: d-i preseed/late_command string /cdrom/script.sh |
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| 10:59 | <panagos> | how do i install flash player for firefox (aka iceweasel) on amd64? i download and try to run the tar.gz file from adobe.com but it says x86_64 isn't supported! |
| 10:59 | <luciana> | but it doesn't work. I don't want to modify the rc.local |
| 10:59 | <luciana> | how can I solve this problem? |
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| 11:00 | <musca> | panagos: gnash is an alternative, but gives me only poor results |
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| 11:01 | <luciana> | i'm trying to do d-i preseed/late_command string cp /cdrom/script.sh /target/root; /target/root/script.sh |
| 11:01 | <cahoot> | panagos: http://groups.google.se/group/linux.debian.user/browse_thread/thread/6e2edd5d529a0c3d/6853e1ae70cddd79?hide_quotes=no&fwc=1 |
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| 11:02 | <luciana> | but I'm searching a solution in which I don't have to copy any file in any directory |
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| 11:03 | <luciana> | even beacuse that doesn't work |
| 11:03 | <luciana> | :S |
| 11:03 | <luciana> | please |
| 11:03 | <mildner> | how can I make the system read fstab without booting? |
| 11:04 | <luciana> | (I see an exit code error 127) |
| 11:04 | <mildner> | I am working on fstab and changed it, thats why I like the system read it again without I restard the system |
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| 11:09 | <hw_> | cahoot: hm, I prefer ncurses based player |
| 11:11 | <err404> | mildner: you can umount all and after you can try: mount -a |
| 11:11 | <cahoot> | hw_: jack? mpg321? |
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| 11:12 | <cahoot> | err404: I doubg one can umount all partitions |
| 11:13 | <hw_> | cahoot: mpg321 yes, but I want try another |
| 11:13 | <err404> | ofcourse some patition cannot be unmounted because used |
| 11:13 | <cahoot> | mount -o remount possibly |
| 11:14 | <cahoot> | hw_: well you started out for an alternative to mpg123? |
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| 11:17 | <panagos> | cahoot: i followed your url, and it works! thanks a lot |
| 11:18 | <cahoot> | np |
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| 11:18 | <Villarroel> | Hi. |
| 11:18 | <panagos> | now i need to set up my sound system... |
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| 11:19 | <hw_> | cahoot: yes, the most simple player possible hehe |
| 11:19 | <err404> | panagos, you can try alsaconf |
| 11:20 | <cahoot> | don't use alsaconf |
| 11:20 | <Villarroel> | It's MonoDevelop on Debian? |
| 11:20 | <panagos> | i tried to follow dpkg's alsa-checklist, but it failed :( |
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| 11:21 | <panagos> | alsaconf didn't get the approp. drivers |
| 11:21 | <cahoot> | panagos: dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base && invike-rc.d alsa-utils reset 0 *should* be enough |
| 11:22 | <cahoot> | s/invike/invoke/ |
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| 11:22 | <Stucko> | I have a strange problem with Xorg and my keyboard |
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| 11:22 | <cahoot> | Stucko: the /topic? |
| 11:22 | <Stucko> | I xorg config problems |
| 11:23 | <Stucko> | drupal.pastebin.com/d74737b18 |
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| 11:28 | <Stucko> | Notice how it incorrectly detects my mouse as having 8 buttons instead of 10? |
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| 11:28 | <Silenus> | Stucko: can you reference the mouse problem? What kind of mouse do you have. |
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| 11:29 | <Stucko> | An MX610 |
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| 11:30 | <Stucko> | From the log: |
| 11:30 | <Stucko> | Found 8 mouse buttons |
| 11:30 | <Stucko> | Checking button DIGI_STYLUS (330) |
| 11:30 | <Stucko> | Checking bit 330 |
| 11:30 | <Stucko> | AbsoluteTouch: 'DIGI_Touch' does not exist. |
| 11:30 | <Stucko> | Configuring in Absolute mode. |
| 11:30 | <Stucko> | Configuring 5 relative axes. |
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| 11:31 | <Silenus> | Well which buttons are giving you the problem? |
| 11:31 | <Silenus> | from what I read |
| 11:31 | <enouf> | a two handed rodent? |
| 11:31 | <Silenus> | there are a forward and backward browsing buttons |
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| 11:31 | <Stucko> | plus zoom +/- and search |
| 11:32 | <Silenus> | http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-327131.html |
| 11:32 | <Silenus> | It's ubuntu but see if it helps any |
| 11:32 | <Stucko> | 8 buttons and then 12? |
| 11:32 | <enouf> | i'm tellin ya, we should all be using accordians |
| 11:32 | <Stucko> | then it goes on: |
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| 11:32 | <Stucko> | Generic Keyboard-isa0061/input0: Core Keyboard |
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| 11:32 | <Stucko> | Generic Keyboard-isa0061/input0: Don't know how to use device. |
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| 11:33 | <george_> | I see |
| 11:33 | <Stucko> | But I don't have a PS2 keyboard mouse connected, mutch less them enabled in the bios, yet it still does direct probing... |
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| 11:36 | <Stucko> | and then it unloads evdev... |
| 11:36 | <Silenus> | Hm |
| 11:36 | <Silenus> | It sounds like it's a driver problem to me. |
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| 11:37 | <panagos> | cahoot: well, it's not enough for me! |
| 11:38 | <panagos> | Resetting ALSA card 0...failed (none loaded). |
| 11:38 | <panagos> | invoke-rc.d: initscript alsa-utils, action "reset" failed. |
| 11:38 | <panagos> | ^^ "invoke-rc.d alsa-utils reset 0" output |
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| 11:38 | <cahoot> | panagos: ok - what kind of card is it? |
| 11:39 | <panagos> | on-board sound controller |
| 11:39 | <Stucko> | It sess the logitech keyboard twice, even thouygh the logitech hack is enabled |
| 11:39 | <cahoot> | panagos: make/model? lspci -v |
| 11:39 | <Stucko> | evdev brain: Rescanning devices (2) |
| 11:40 | <Stucko> | (EE) PreInit returned NULL for "Configured Mouse" |
| 11:40 | <Stucko> | (EE) No Input driver matching `mouse' |
| 11:40 | <Stucko> | (WW) No core pointer registered |
| 11:40 | <Stucko> | (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Generic Keyboard-PNP0C0C/button/input0" (type: KEYBOARD) |
| 11:40 | <Stucko> | (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Generic Keyboard-button_power/button/input0" (type: KEYBOARD) |
| 11:40 | <Stucko> | (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Generic Keyboard-usb-0000:00:1d.0-2/input1" (type: KEYBOARD) |
| 11:40 | <Stucko> | (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Generic Keyboard-usb-0000:00:1d.0-2/input0" (type: KEYBOARD) |
| 11:40 | <panagos> | cahoot: i'm terribly sorry, but i have to leave now... :( thanks for your help, though :D |
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| 11:42 | <mildner> | I try to mount my HD, but I can't write on it |
| 11:42 | <Stucko> | XINPUT: Adding extended input device "evdev brain" (type: evdev brain) |
| 11:42 | <Stucko> | evdev brain: Rescanning devices (3). |
| 11:42 | <fanto666> | hello, the command 'apt-get source ...' produces output "gpg: can't open `/gnupg/options.skel': No such file or directory". What am I missing? |
| 11:42 | <fanto666> | (except the clue) |
| 11:42 | <Stucko> | No core pointer |
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| 11:43 | <v4mpire> | guys any chance of help on this |
| 11:43 | <v4mpire> | *** 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.12.0, but GLIB (2.12.4) |
| 11:43 | <v4mpire> | *** was found! If pkg-config was correct, then it is best |
| 11:44 | <mildner> | is there german help available |
| 11:44 | <cahoot> | !de |
| 11:44 | <dpkg> | deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de) |
| 11:45 | <fanto666> | stucko, you probably should ass 'Option "SendCoreEvents" to "InputDevice" section for the "evdev brain" |
| 11:45 | <fanto666> | add |
| 11:45 | <Stucko> | for both keyboard and mouse? |
| 11:45 | <fanto666> | stucko do you only two devices configured? |
| 11:45 | <fanto666> | have |
| 11:46 | <Stucko> | Yes, using one of those RF logitech dongles... |
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| 11:47 | <fanto666> | no mouse? |
| 11:47 | <mildner> | any help on mounting a HD? |
| 11:47 | <fanto666> | mildner isn't is set read-only by hw? |
| 11:48 | <fanto666> | mildner hdparm -r <device> |
| 11:49 | <cahoot> | mount -o remount possibly mildner |
| 11:49 | <Stucko> | same error |
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| 11:49 | <mildner> | fanto666 I used to write on it, only after I reinstalled lenny I cant write on it |
| 11:50 | <mildner> | I wrote the following line in fstab:---->/dev/sda1 /home/mildner/HD500 ext3 user 1 2 |
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| 11:51 | <cahoot> | mildner:try mount -o remount,rw /home/mildner/HD500 |
| 11:51 | <Stucko> | Its always thinks I'm referring to a ps/2 keyboard.... |
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| 11:52 | <fanto666> | hello, the command 'apt-get source ...' produces output "gpg: can't open `/gnupg/options.skel': No such file or directory". What am I missing? |
| 11:52 | <mildner> | cahoot you mean to write it into fstab? |
| 11:52 | <cahoot> | no as command |
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| 11:53 | <fanto666> | mildner you can write 'rw,user' into fstab instead just 'user' |
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| 11:53 | <fanto666> | but when you have it mountes, just run the mount/remount command |
| 11:54 | <mildner> | fanto666 do you know how to make the system read fstab, without rebooting? |
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| 11:55 | <anssik> | Anyone here? |
| 11:56 | <fanto666> | mildner: system does not read it. the mount command does. and running the command cahoot advised thould do it |
| 11:56 | <simonrvn> | nope, just us lurkers |
| 11:56 | <fanto666> | if you change fstab, next time it will be mounted rw (hopefully) |
| 11:56 | <anssik> | Why this code gives me a segmentation fault: http://paste.servut.us/dqb |
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| 11:57 | <fanto666> | anssik seems to me that you only should pass argv[1] and argv[2] to fopen |
| 11:58 | <Miss_Stoned> | Hoi iederen |
| 11:58 | <Miss_Stoned> | sorry,.. |
| 11:58 | <Miss_Stoned> | hello,. every one |
| 11:58 | <anssik> | fanto, I do |
| 11:58 | <anssik> | ./decoder /tmp/file1 /tmp/file2 |
| 11:58 | <anssik> | but segmentation fault :F |
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| 12:00 | <fanto666> | anssik: no, you pass &argv[1] and &argv[2] |
| 12:00 | <fanto666> | try removing those &'s |
| 12:00 | <anssik> | oh. |
| 12:00 | <anssik> | I'll try. Thanks very much |
| 12:01 | <fanto666> | are signing keys for lenny/sid different from etch? |
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| 12:01 | <Miss_Stoned> | i have a problem, with my compiz, it frees en i have a burning mouse point |
| 12:01 | <Miss_Stoned> | en my engles sucks |
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| 12:02 | <anssik> | fanto666, no , I still get Segmentation fault =( |
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| 12:03 | <anssik> | and now theres an error on compile: decoder.c:7: warning: passing argument 1 of 'fopen' makes pointer from integer without a cast |
| 12:03 | <mildner> | it still doesnt work :( |
| 12:04 | <cahoot> | mildner: you could put the output of 'mount' to a pastebin |
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| 12:05 | <fanto666> | anssik: oh, it has to be "char ** argv" or "char *argv[]" |
| 12:06 | <anssik> | okay , I'll try now remove the &'s and use *argv[] |
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| 12:09 | <fanto666> | Q - when I run 'apt-get source ...' produces output "gpg: can't open `/gnupg/options.skel': No such file or directory". What am I missing? do I need keys for lenny/sid ? |
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| 12:10 | <Myon> | you need HOME set |
| 12:10 | <mildner> | cahoot please send me the pastebin Link |
| 12:11 | <cahoot> | !paster |
| 12:11 | <dpkg> | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 12:11 | <musca> | cahoot: th workaround for flash on amd64 works for me, thx |
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| 12:11 | <anssik> | fanto666, Thank you. changing *argv to *argv[] fixed the issue =) |
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| 12:12 | <fanto666> | Myon, I do... (I'm trying to build lenny/sid sources on etch) |
| 12:12 | <fanto666> | hmm |
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| 12:13 | <mildner> | cahoot http://paste.debian.net/43263 |
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| 12:13 | <fanto666> | mildner not the 'mount' but the 'mount -o ...' |
| 12:13 | <cahoot> | mildner: sure looks to me sda1 shoud be rw now |
| 12:13 | <fanto666> | maybe 'dmesg | tail' |
| 12:14 | <mildner> | only as root |
| 12:14 | <fanto666> | mildner you can write as root? |
| 12:14 | <mildner> | yes |
| 12:14 | <cahoot> | mildner: well that's different from 'not working' |
| 12:15 | <mildner> | I know but I found it out right now |
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| 12:16 | <fanto666> | mildner it's just access rights. do chown to yourself or chmod +w |
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| 12:17 | <mildner> | fanto666 but I like to resolve it in fstab, can I? |
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| 12:17 | <fanto666> | mildner: no, it's ext3 |
| 12:17 | <fanto666> | however, since it's ext3, the changes will be permanent |
| 12:17 | <fanto666> | is it external HDD? |
| 12:18 | <fanto666> | you should have the same uid/dig on all systems you use it on |
| 12:18 | <mildner> | here ist the mount -o output: http://paste.debian.net/43264 |
| 12:18 | <mildner> | no internal |
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| 12:19 | <fanto666> | mildner in such case, why do you have the 'user' option in fstab? just make it 'defaults' |
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| 12:20 | <cahoot> | and as a sidenote you probably want noatime also |
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| 12:21 | <mildner> | fanto666 I will change it....I was wondering about the place where I mount it (HD500) because it's on home and my area if I add a user can they acces even its under home/mildner ? |
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| 12:23 | <simonrvn> | what? |
| 12:23 | <fanto666> | mildner: no, if you don't allow them to access it. just learn chown/chgrp/chmod and un*x access rights system |
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| 12:25 | <adii> | i'm looking for a good mail server |
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| 12:26 | <fanto666> | adii what do you mean 'good mail server'? |
| 12:27 | <adii> | something reliable first |
| 12:27 | <adii> | and then something I won't have to dig the whole net to understand how it works |
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| 12:27 | <mildner> | fanto666 when I replace user with defaults do I have to write 'rw,defaults' |
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| 12:28 | <fanto666> | mildner: no, the 'rw' is default, so simply 'defaults' should be enough |
| 12:28 | <mildner> | thx |
| 12:28 | <fanto666> | adii gmail is quite good and reliable |
| 12:29 | <adii> | i mean |
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| 12:29 | <adii> | i'm looking for a server (= |
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| 12:29 | <adii> | to install :p |
| 12:29 | [~] | adii looks stupid now :p |
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| 12:30 | <v4mpire> | right guys i often get trouble with my servers ftp server... i normally have someelse that does it but aint heard from them in a while... |
| 12:30 | <fanto666> | adii "tasksel mail-server" should install everything needed |
| 12:30 | <adii> | okay :) |
| 12:30 | <adii> | i'll try |
| 12:30 | <fanto666> | adii at least you understsand my question |
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| 12:30 | <fanto666> | "mail server" involves many things |
| 12:30 | <v4mpire> | basically its disconnecting ppl when they connect or when they try access a folder or download or upload something |
| 12:31 | <v4mpire> | its worse that other times here in there... but everytime it needs to be fixed... |
| 12:31 | <v4mpire> | its proftpd any idea ? |
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| 12:37 | <mildner> | fano666 defaults was not enough |
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| 12:41 | <adii> | my manual pages are displayed with "more" |
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| 12:42 | <adii> | maybe there's something to install to be able to scroll up & down ? |
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| 12:45 | <fanto666> | hmm |
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| 12:45 | <fanto666> | space scrolls one page, enter one line |
| 12:46 | <fanto666> | 'b' one page up |
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| 12:47 | <witte> | adii: I think you can change it, check "man man" |
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| 12:47 | <witte> | adii: btw: arrow up and arrow down work on my system |
| 12:48 | <witte> | adii: maybe you need less |
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| 12:48 | <witte> | adii: apt-get install less; update-alternatives --config pager |
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| 12:49 | <adii> | worked fine (= |
| 12:49 | <adii> | thanks(= |
| 12:49 | <witte> | great :-) |
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| 12:51 | <grasn> | where i can get windows media codec for etch? |
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| 12:51 | <witte> | !tell grasn about dmm |
| 12:52 | <jusae> | anyone know of a bash script to check the file permissions, recursily |
| 12:52 | <witte> | jusae: what do you want to achieve? |
| 12:53 | <grasn> | witte, can i apt-get? |
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| 12:53 | <jusae> | i wanna just read the permissions in a script and then play with it alittle |
| 12:53 | <witte> | grasn: yes, but you need to add the correct line to your sources.list |
| 12:54 | <witte> | jusae: in a script you can do whatever you can do in command line |
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| 12:54 | <witte> | jusae: I really do not know what you mean, but that could be me, I a'm a bit tired ;-) |
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| 12:56 | <fxiny> | i ain't got any superpowers today so i can't help |
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| 12:58 | <N`Kr1pt> | hmz, my left and right arrow keys behave like hom and end |
| 12:58 | <N`Kr1pt> | any idea how this can be fixed? |
| 12:58 | <mildner> | I try to mount my internal HD, but I can't make the rw rights |
| 12:58 | <N`Kr1pt> | jyjhgjhg |
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| 13:00 | <fxiny> | a dos "pathetic" vfat ? |
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| 13:01 | <fxiny> | mildner: ^^^ |
| 13:02 | <mildner> | Fxiny this is the line in fstab: /dev/sda1 /home/mildner/HD500 ext3 rw,defaults 1 2 |
| 13:02 | <N`Kr1pt> | never mind, xmodmap does the trick :) |
| 13:02 | <grasn> | witte, i added the source to sources.list, what is the command to install dmm? |
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| 13:02 | <witte> | grasn: you do not need to install dmm, dmm is the dpkg shortcut for debian multimedia |
| 13:03 | |-| | mode/#debian [+l 307] by debhelper |
| 13:03 | <witte> | you probably want apt-get update;apt-get install w32codecs |
| 13:03 | <grasn> | but how i apt-get install the stuff? |
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| 13:03 | <witte> | !tell grasn about w32codecs |
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| 13:04 | <fxiny> | mildner: i see no space |
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| 13:05 | <grasn> | witte, thx |
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| 13:05 | <mildner> | every column with tab |
| 13:05 | <fxiny> | ok is my mrxvt then |
| 13:06 | <mildner> | fxiny I only can write as root |
| 13:06 | <fxiny> | why ext2 and not auto ? |
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| 13:06 | <witte> | mildner: can't you chown the disk |
| 13:07 | <witte> | chown -R mildner:mildner /home/mildner/HD500 |
| 13:07 | <fxiny> | mildner: ops : i'm sleeping >> ext3 defaults 0 2 |
| 13:08 | <fxiny> | yahhh give the correct permission to the dir |
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| 13:10 | <mildner> | fxiny do you know how to make the comp read fstab again without rebooting |
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| 13:11 | <fxiny> | mildner: try to remember |
| 13:11 | <jusae> | is there a command that returns the permissions of a file in its numeric form? |
| 13:11 | <mildner> | what do you mean by try to remember? |
| 13:12 | <fanto666> | mildner I said it |
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| 13:12 | <fanto666> | only the 'mount' command reads fstab whenever you call it |
| 13:12 | <fxiny> | it was fstab-sync |
| 13:12 | <fxiny> | but cannot focus on it |
| 13:12 | <fanto666> | fstab-sync? where |
| 13:13 | <fanto666> | mildner however it you changed something in fstab, you must usually manually mount+unmount or remount the FS |
| 13:14 | <oxynet> | how mount and usb hard drive???? |
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| 13:17 | <cahoot> | oxynet: vfat? |
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| 13:18 | <cahoot> | oxynet: what filesystem is it on the device? |
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| 13:21 | <oxynet> | cahoot, yes |
| 13:21 | <N`Kr1pt> | Hi, I'm trying to install xserver-xorg-video-intel, but apt throws the following error: |
| 13:21 | <N`Kr1pt> | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 13:21 | <N`Kr1pt> | xserver-xorg-video-intel: Depends: xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.4) but 2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12 is to be installed |
| 13:21 | <N`Kr1pt> | E: Broken packages |
| 13:21 | |-| | N`Kr1pt kicked [#debian] debhelper [use the paster bot or #flood] |
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| 13:22 | <oxynet> | cahoot, i don´t know what /dev/??? is |
| 13:22 | <NKr1pt> | I'm using sid and packages.debian.org says that 2.1.4 is in the sid repositories |
| 13:22 | <NKr1pt> | what do I have to do? |
| 13:23 | <chealer> | NKr1pt: sid is your default release? |
| 13:23 | <NKr1pt> | chealer, yes |
| 13:23 | <cahoot> | oxynet: dmesg possibly tells |
| 13:24 | <chealer> | NKr1pt: if you need help with basic APT usage, it's probably best to reinstall another release, either testing or stable. |
| 13:25 | <fxiny> | oxynet: usually is sda1 . sometimes (iomega) sda4 |
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| 13:26 | <grasn> | wich programm i can use to handle RAR archives? |
| 13:26 | <oxynet> | cahoot: appear many lines equal, like |
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| 13:26 | <oxynet> | khubd timed out on ep0in len=18/64 |
| 13:26 | <cahoot> | ouch |
| 13:26 | <oxynet> | khubd timed out on ep0out len=0/0 |
| 13:26 | <oxynet> | device not accpeting address 2, error -110 |
| 13:27 | <cahoot> | does not look good |
| 13:27 | <oxynet> | the last one is bus auto-suspend |
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| 13:29 | <oxynet> | cahoot, i think that i forgot to enable on the kernel compilation |
| 13:29 | <hazard3> | what is the 'ssh' group for? |
| 13:30 | <hazard3> | no, wait, maybe I'm insane, and was looking at the userlist |
| 13:30 | <hazard3> | ah, nope, there it is |
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| 13:30 | <hazard3> | GID 102 |
| 13:30 | <chealer> | grasn: ark, if you have a .rar unarchiver installed. |
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| 13:31 | <grasn> | it says cant open |
| 13:31 | <chealer> | grasn: I'd even say an unarchiver for the .rar format version which the file uses |
| 13:31 | <grasn> | i apt-get install unrar |
| 13:31 | <hazard3> | the sshd user has uid 103, so they aren't related that way I think |
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| 13:32 | <faheem> | Hi. Most of /dev seems to have mysteriously disappeared from one of my machines. It has been replaced by initctl null pts shm .static |
| 13:32 | <faheem> | This machine runs etch. Seems to have happened overnight. There is some else who admins it, and he may have screwed something up. Any ideas? |
| 13:33 | <faheem> | A normal /dev directory doesn't seem to have a .static directory. |
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| 13:33 | <faheem> | Is this possibly something a reboot would fix? |
| 13:34 | <bzed> | is udev runnign? |
| 13:34 | <grasn> | i installed rar not it works |
| 13:35 | <faheem> | bzed: Probably. How would I check for this? |
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| 13:36 | <faheem> | Yes. udevd --daemon |
| 13:38 | <bzed> | ps -Af | grep udev for example |
| 13:39 | <faheem> | bzed: Yes, it is running. Any idea what is going on? |
| 13:39 | <faheem> | Possibly just needs a reboot? |
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| 13:42 | <bzed> | could be |
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| 13:42 | <bzed> | faheem: there should eb at least your disk drive devices in /dev |
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| 13:43 | <Convirion> | hi |
| 13:43 | <Convirion> | i've installed the basic system with dns (etch, 4.0) |
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| 13:43 | <rootest> | hi all |
| 13:44 | <Convirion> | and i want to add a url like 192.168.2.1 is http://intranet |
| 13:44 | <Convirion> | how and where do i add it? |
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| 13:45 | <rootest> | Who are make a images for assemble with jigdo? |
| 13:45 | <Convirion> | i know its in /etc/bind |
| 13:45 | <rootest> | *an images |
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| 13:46 | <rootest> | Convirion, may be /etc/hosts ? |
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| 13:48 | <rootest> | Peoples, help |
| 13:48 | <rootest> | Who are make a images for assemble with jigdo |
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| 13:50 | <Convirion> | @rootest, do you know if i have to reboot my pc/server to make it work? |
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| 13:52 | <rootest> | Convirion, file /etc/hosts don't change by dhcp-client or other process, it's a small local DNS-server |
| 13:52 | <Convirion> | hmmm |
| 13:52 | <Convirion> | i dont want that |
| 13:53 | <Convirion> | i've want it to work as a DNS server not local |
| 13:53 | <rootest> | hm... |
| 13:53 | <Convirion> | thats why i installed bind |
| 13:53 | <faheem> | Is /dev dynamically created by udev? |
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| 13:54 | <rootest> | sorry, my server is off, and I can't see in it, but I'll now see my book... |
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| 13:54 | <Convirion> | "Is /dev dynamically created by udev?" how do i check? |
| 13:54 | <rootest> | file called is a named.conf - find it and change |
| 13:54 | <george> | /etc/hosts is not a dns server, it's merely a textual database relating name to ip |
| 13:55 | <Convirion> | named . conf i checked it out |
| 13:55 | <Convirion> | but i don't know hot to enter a new entrie |
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| 13:59 | <faheem> | Convirion: That question wasn't addressed to you. |
| 13:59 | <Convirion> | Oh ok |
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| 14:00 | <Convirion> | Does anybody know how to add a new entrie in named.conf for DNS? |
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| 14:01 | <george> | anyone who reads the docs on doing so will learn how |
| 14:02 | <george> | faheem: and nor was it addressed to anyone :) |
| 14:03 | <george> | Convirion: try: man 5 named.conf |
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| 14:05 | <faheem> | george: Sorry, flustered... |
| 14:06 | <george> | but I'll have to say that if your understanding of dns servers in general and bind in particular is weak or nonexistant (ever read "DNS and BIND" publ by O'Reilly?), you're entering a complex world, and if I'm understanding what you want to do correctly, accomplishing it will require you to understand and edit more than just that one file |
| 14:07 | <george> | sorry, that was to Convirion |
| 14:08 | <Convirion> | hmmm |
| 14:08 | <Convirion> | i want to do some like that i want to do some networking around my house and try many things out |
| 14:09 | <Convirion> | so you got any tutorials or anything where i can learn it from or what? |
| 14:09 | <george> | what are you concentrating on right now |
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| 14:10 | <Convirion> | The DNS, I have set up a server (intranet) so i want to add a DNS server that grabs the info from the server |
| 14:11 | <george> | ok, what specifically do you want the dns for? |
| 14:11 | <Convirion> | I want this because i then don't have to alter each hosts file |
| 14:11 | <george> | ok, so you want one database for all names |
| 14:12 | <Convirion> | like that, but, if the name doesn't exist in the database, it must just check out in the root-servers (like the normal dns servers) |
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| 14:12 | <george> | so you need a domain |
| 14:12 | <george> | this is only for your internal network? |
| 14:12 | <Convirion> | it is only for internal |
| 14:13 | <george> | ok, then you can make up a name |
| 14:13 | <george> | howbout conviron.internal |
| 14:13 | <george> | or mynewnet.int |
| 14:13 | <Convirion> | i've one already, its called jeroen.intranet (jeroen is my name ;)) |
| 14:13 | <george> | ok |
| 14:14 | <Convirion> | but that domain i have to enter in each pc when i install it right? |
| 14:14 | <Convirion> | or is it only for the dns server? |
| 14:14 | <george> | dhcp could supply domain name |
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| 14:14 | <Convirion> | one sec then, ill change it in my router config |
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| 14:15 | <george> | also your dhcp config should supply dns server address |
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| 14:16 | <Convirion> | i've now only one dns server (that is the local one here) so if that one is down, you can't get on the internet without knowing the ip address |
| 14:17 | <george> | so dhcp should supply the ip address of the machine where the dns is running (internal ip address, so that other machines on your internal net can access it) |
| 14:17 | <mildner> | I am again trying to make my HD accesible pleaaassse :-( |
| 14:17 | <fanto666> | how do I install compiz sources from lenny, when I have sources for etch+lenny+sid in sources.list ? |
| 14:17 | <m0RrE> | what's wrong mildner ? |
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| 14:17 | <george> | if you're short, put the hd on a lower shelf |
| 14:17 | <fanto666> | apt-get source compiz/lenny nor compiz/testing doesn't work :( |
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| 14:18 | <mildner> | m0Re the fstab line ---> /dev/sda1 /home/mildner/HD500 ext3 defaults 0 2 |
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| 14:18 | <mildner> | I only can write as root |
| 14:18 | <fanto666> | mildner did you chown -R /home/mildner/HD500 to you? |
| 14:18 | <ConvirionNL> | Sorry about this reconnect, needed to reset my router |
| 14:19 | <m0RrE> | no he didn't ;) |
| 14:19 | <george> | also your dhcp config should supply dns server address |
| 14:19 | <george> | so dhcp should supply the ip address of the machine where the dns is running (internal ip address, so that other machines on your internal net can access it) |
| 14:19 | <mildner> | fanto666 ---> chown -R /home/mildner/HD500 in console? |
| 14:19 | <m0RrE> | no |
| 14:19 | <m0RrE> | sudo chown -R <username> /home/mildner/HD500 |
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| 14:20 | <george> | not -R |
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| 14:20 | <m0RrE> | why not? |
| 14:20 | <fanto666> | if he wants to access whole disk, -R |
| 14:20 | <george> | unless you want ALL files in there (not just the dir) owned by that user |
| 14:20 | <sas67> | hi all |
| 14:20 | <george> | are there any files on that disk now? |
| 14:20 | <m0RrE> | why wouldn't he want that? :P |
| 14:20 | <ConvirionNL> | george: i've that now, but i can't set it in my dhcp server, it's just my router. I know have everything set on the router side right? |
| 14:20 | <m0RrE> | :P |
| 14:20 | <george> | or is it empty? |
| 14:21 | <george> | nono, no dcc chat |
| 14:21 | <sas67> | ive just dowmloaded 3 dvd iso's from debian site to my server |
| 14:21 | <fanto666> | how do I select which version of source package to download? apt-get source <package>/<release>? |
| 14:21 | <sas67> | they say they are 4gb in size,each |
| 14:22 | <mildner> | m0Re now I can write on it, but what if I reboot? |
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| 14:22 | <george> | sas67: smallest dvd is 5.something g, so there's enough room |
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| 14:22 | <sas67> | but ive just downloaded from server to home pc and it says iso's are only 350mb |
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| 14:23 | <sas67> | they were all downloaded and seeded back |
| 14:23 | <sas67> | fully |
| 14:23 | <m0RrE> | mildner: it won't change.. it will work from now on |
| 14:23 | <george> | sas67: so download didn't complete? |
| 14:23 | <sas67> | yes it did |
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| 14:23 | <mildner> | perfect.....thanks |
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| 14:24 | <george> | mildner: be VERY careful with chown |
| 14:24 | <george> | and |
| 14:24 | <george> | be VERY careful with any -R |
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| 14:24 | <george> | he's given you something you should read up on before you use it again |
| 14:26 | <george> | it's also the kind of thing where when you type in a command, you should read it several times and make sure it's right before hitting enter |
| 14:26 | <sas67> | Down-Total: |
| 14:26 | <sas67> | |
| 14:26 | <sas67> | 4.39 GB |
| 14:26 | <sas67> | |
| 14:26 | <sas67> | Up-Total: |
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| 14:26 | <sas67> | oops sorry |
| 14:27 | <sas67> | just put torrent back in server and it showing as d/ld 4.39GB |
| 14:28 | <sas67> | i goto iso in directory and d/l to home and its says image file at 386,806 kB |
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| 14:30 | <sas67> | we'll see when i install on virtual machine if it works |
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| 14:34 | <keitherz> | hello |
| 14:35 | <keitherz> | is there anyone here that can help me |
| 14:35 | <george> | sas67: you should find out why |
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| 14:35 | <george> | keitherz: have you herd the werd of god today? |
| 14:35 | <george> | did that help? |
| 14:35 | <keitherz> | i have a locale problem |
| 14:36 | <keitherz> | it seems like it cant find my locale |
| 14:36 | <keitherz> | the .UTF-8 file |
| 14:36 | <keitherz> | then when i type the locale command |
| 14:36 | <george> | keitherz: I'm not going to pull for every aspect... also I need coffee, so I'm getting it... so: please type into your irc client these: |
| 14:36 | <george> | /msg dpkg enter |
| 14:36 | <george> | /msg dpkg ask |
| 14:38 | <jusae> | parse'in a variable in bash, is it possible, like "test1 test2 test3", where test1 is $0, kinda of thing |
| 14:38 | <sas67> | never used linux b4,want to try and learn |
| 14:38 | <keitherz> | ok so thats my problem it cant find my area's .UTF-8 file |
| 14:38 | <george> | there's also an article on smart questions on the web (ok, so the article is somewhat misnamed, but it's good, it will help you and it will help whoever would help you) |
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| 14:38 | <cahoot> | keitherz: try dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 14:38 | <keitherz> | oh with s |
| 14:38 | <george> | sas67: one thing you could try if you want to... is download the netinstall cd image |
| 14:39 | <keitherz> | i only tried without s |
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| 14:42 | <george> | sas67: the thing is debian is divided into packages, there are the base packages which is the minimum you need to run. these are on the netinstall, along with the installer |
| 14:42 | <sas67> | i got 3 dvd iso's |
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| 14:42 | <george> | after that you install any other package using apt-get which downloads and installs the thing you want |
| 14:43 | <george> | sas67: I understand that... I'm giving you an alternative should you want to use it |
| 14:43 | <IrIT> | I just installed sun-java6-jre and now i want to enable it in Iceweasel. I've read that one should make a symlink. But exactly one symlink should i create? |
| 14:43 | <sas67> | kk than goerge |
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| 14:44 | <george> | sas67: for example, if you don't get past the problem of downloading from your server, you still have a way to do it |
| 14:44 | <sas67> | nice one,cheers |
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| 14:45 | <george> | IrIT: I thought the debian package makes that symlink for you |
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| 14:46 | <george> | IrIT: try closing all your browsers, opening one, and put about:plugins in the address bar |
| 14:46 | <chealer> | IrIT: you shouldn't need to create a symlink |
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| 14:46 | <george> | chealer: would he instead install a separate plugin package? |
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| 14:46 | <george> | or is the plugin inside the jre? |
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| 14:47 | <chealer> | george: probably. the jre doesn't contain it, no. |
| 14:47 | <chealer> | fanto666: try package/version. or try -t release |
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| 14:48 | <george> | ok, so either there isn't a plugin needed and the jre is all he needs, or the plugin is in the iceweasel package, or the plugin is in an optional separate package |
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| 14:48 | <george> | if the third case, he needs the package name |
| 14:50 | <IrIT> | Well, after installing jre (and after a firefox restart) java still isn't wokring in Iceweasel. |
| 14:50 | <george> | IrIT: and about:plugins says nothign about java? |
| 14:51 | <IrIT> | No. |
| 14:51 | <george> | ok, so it must be a separate package |
| 14:51 | <IrIT> | Doesn't any of you use Java in Iceweasel? |
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| 14:53 | <george> | I happen to have it working... but I don't remember the package name that I must have installed last year or something |
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| 14:54 | <george> | try this... go to the settings panel and see if you can enable/disable java by clicking a checkbox |
| 14:54 | <chealer> | IrIT: some of us do, yeah... |
| 14:54 | <IrIT> | Okay. Or maybe there just isn't package. And you have to create the symlink manually |
| 14:54 | <IrIT> | chealer, remeber how you installed it? |
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| 14:55 | <george> | IrIT: sure, that's possible |
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| 14:55 | <george> | so have you tried looking at the configure option yet? |
| 14:56 | <IrIT> | Yes, java is enbaled. |
| 14:56 | <george> | aha |
| 14:56 | <IrIT> | I'll try make a symlink to /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.00/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so |
| 14:56 | <george> | and it's not working? |
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| 14:56 | <CPrompt^> | Greetings. To install KDE on Debian would I just need to run : apt-get install kdm kde-core ? Is that it? |
| 14:56 | <george> | so the plugin IS in the jre |
| 14:56 | <chealer> | !tell CPrompt^ about install kde |
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| 14:57 | <IrIT> | george, yeah looks that way. Only think missing is the symlink. I'll try to create it now |
| 14:57 | <george> | IrIT: was it already enabled when you looked? or did you just now enable it? |
| 14:57 | <chealer> | dpkg: firefox java |
| 14:57 | <dpkg> | To have Firefox run Java, first install Java (ask me about install java). If Java is installed by java-package, Firefox will already be able to run Java. Otherwise, make sure that there's a libjavaplugin_oji.so symlink pointing to a JRE or JDK's libjavaplugin_oji.so. The symlink should be in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ (all users), or in $HOME/.mozilla/plugins/ (user by user) |
| 14:57 | <IrIT> | already enbled. |
| 14:58 | <CPrompt^> | chealer : thanks!! |
| 14:58 | <george> | chealer: any idea whether that checkbox would be present if jre is not installed? |
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| 14:59 | <chealer> | george: I'd say it would be. |
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| 14:59 | <IrIT> | If i go to http://java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml it tells me that a plugin is needed. |
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| 15:00 | <george> | does about:plugins say otherwise? |
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| 15:00 | <IrIT> | java isn't mentioned in about:plugins |
| 15:01 | <george> | ok kill off browser and restart |
| 15:01 | <grasn> | what is a nice bittorent client with cool interface? |
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| 15:01 | <george> | grasnL it is a thing of beauty therefore it is a joy forever |
| 15:01 | <ori> | hi to all |
| 15:01 | <ori> | can so help me with samba on debian |
| 15:02 | <george> | !ask |
| 15:02 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 15:02 | <grasn> | cool |
| 15:02 | <ori> | i want that all the user files get a specific user and group nomatter who put them on my shares |
| 15:02 | <ori> | sth like suid |
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| 15:03 | <chealer> | dpkg: java plugin is <reply>To install a Java plugin in your browsers on Debian 4 or greater, install sun-java5-plugin or sun-java6-plugin. With konqueror, you may hit #327582 |
| 15:03 | <dpkg> | chealer: okay |
| 15:03 | <ori> | in samba docs it said that i have to use force mask |
| 15:03 | <ori> | but nothing happends |
| 15:03 | <george> | did you restart samba after changing that |
| 15:03 | <IrIT> | Hmn, made the symlink manual, and now iceweasel crash when trying to load a java applet. |
| 15:03 | <ori> | yes |
| 15:03 | <chealer> | dpkg: no, firefox java is <reply>see java plugin |
| 15:03 | <dpkg> | okay, chealer |
| 15:03 | <ori> | over and over |
| 15:04 | <george> | IrIT, so you installed java from apt-get... right? |
| 15:04 | <ori> | and still nothing |
| 15:05 | <sas67> | george,help |
| 15:05 | <sas67> | *Laughs* |
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| 15:05 | <IrIT> | ah, finally! Think it's working now. Made a symlink from /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.00/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so to the plugins directory in iceweasel :) |
| 15:05 | <IrIT> | Thanks for your help! |
| 15:06 | <george> | you did most of the work |
| 15:06 | <IrIT> | Well, still nice with some feedback |
| 15:07 | <ori> | can so help me with samba and permissions ? |
| 15:07 | <sas67> | bugger,fell at first hurdle |
| 15:07 | [~] | george looks for a hurdle and a fallen bugger |
| 15:08 | <sas67> | *Laughs* |
| 15:08 | <sas67> | all gone pear shaped already |
| 15:08 | <sas67> | god im a dumb noob |
| 15:08 | <george> | no |
| 15:08 | <george> | you just havent' seen things yet |
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| 15:08 | <sas67> | i started vm |
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| 15:09 | <sas67> | and pointed cd drive at dvd1 iso |
| 15:09 | <george> | people like that bald guy |
| 15:09 | <jusae> | parse'in a variable in bash, is it possible, like "test1 test2 test3", where test1 is $0, kinda of thing |
| 15:09 | <jusae> | without awk'in it? |
| 15:09 | <ori> | samba please sos , here , loosing job soon |
| 15:09 | <jusae> | :) @ ori |
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| 15:10 | <ori> | can u tell me how to set the permissions right |
| 15:10 | <ori> | ? |
| 15:10 | <sas67> | it started then says unable to copy file from cddrive |
| 15:10 | <ori> | i mean evert file that my users create or copy over the share get the same permission and the same user:group ? |
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| 15:10 | <jusae> | samba.org has great examples |
| 15:10 | <IrIT> | Almost forgot how annoying the default nautilus is |
| 15:10 | <ori> | iv tried |
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| 15:11 | <jusae> | -f appears lot |
| 15:11 | <CPrompt^> | I've read the Wiki entry on installing KDE, however, kdebase does not show up. What repos do I need activated to install kdebase |
| 15:11 | <jusae> | thats file reference |
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| 15:12 | <sas67> | ill leave alone till ive more time |
| 15:12 | <Vanye> | Hello. |
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| 15:12 | <sas67> | also read up lots |
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| 15:13 | <grasn> | how i set xmms as my default mp3 player |
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| 15:16 | <jusae> | got it |
| 15:16 | <jusae> | smilin 4 a change |
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| 15:19 | <CPrompt^> | anyone know what repos I need activated to install KDE? |
| 15:21 | <chealer> | CPrompt^: huh. you do have a Debian mirror in your sources, right? |
| 15:21 | <CPrompt^> | chealer : yes. |
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| 15:21 | <CPrompt^> | chealer : when I try to install, i get E:Broken packages. |
| 15:22 | <chealer> | CPrompt^: which Debian suite do you use? |
| 15:22 | <grasn> | how i make xmms my default mp3 player? |
| 15:22 | <CPrompt^> | chealer : just installed etch via net install |
| 15:22 | <chealer> | grasn: if you use KDE, ask #debian-kde |
| 15:22 | <CPrompt^> | I just did the Desktop install. |
| 15:22 | <chealer> | !tell CPrompt^ about bat |
| 15:22 | <grasn> | ok |
| 15:23 | <Vanye> | CPrompt^: You should just be able to run 'tasksel' and select X complete from the menu. |
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| 15:26 | <Vanye-AFK> | Visitors. |
| 15:26 | <CPrompt^> | chealer : http://paste.debian.net/43277 |
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| 15:27 | <marc-etienne> | <CPrompt^> chealer : http://paste.debian.net/43277 |
| 15:27 | <marc-etienne> | <CPrompt^> chealer : http://paste.debian.net/43277 |
| 15:27 | <marc-etienne> | sorry |
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| 15:28 | <mildner> | any help to connect a private net? |
| 15:28 | <chealer> | CPrompt^: OK, but also paste "The complete ouptut of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run" |
| 15:28 | <mildner> | private net with a windows computer |
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| 15:29 | <CPrompt^> | chealer : E: Invaluid operation |
| 15:29 | <CPrompt^> | chealer : I swear, I'm not a Linux n00b LOL |
| 15:29 | <chealer> | CPrompt^: what? |
| 15:29 | <chealer> | CPrompt^: what's the invalid operation? |
| 15:29 | <CPrompt^> | chealer : is that a command to do via the terminal? |
| 15:30 | <chealer> | CPrompt^: ah, apt-get/aptitude/dselect run isn't, no. what's your favorite package manager? |
| 15:30 | <CPrompt^> | chealer : oh...apt-get |
| 15:31 | <chealer> | CPrompt^: provide the complete output of # apt-get install kdebase |
| 15:32 | <CPrompt^> | chealer : http://paste.debian.net/43278 |
| 15:32 | <chealer> | CPrompt^: what happens when you try installing kdebase-kio-plugins? |
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| 15:33 | <CPrompt^> | chealer : samething. Broken packages |
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| 15:33 | <chealer> | CPrompt^: please provide the complete output of the apt-get run. |
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| 15:34 | <CPrompt^> | chealer : http://paste.debian.net/43280 |
| 15:35 | <CPrompt^> | chealer : libopenexr2c2a installed |
| 15:35 | <chealer> | CPrompt^: what do you mean, you just succeeded to install it, or it was already installed? |
| 15:36 | <CPrompt^> | chealer : i just succeeded to install it. |
| 15:36 | <CPrompt^> | chealer : libopenexr2c2a that is |
| 15:36 | <chealer> | CPrompt^: what happens if you retry installing kdebase-kio-plugins? |
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| 15:37 | <CPrompt^> | chealer : http://paste.debian.net/43281 |
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| 15:38 | <chealer> | CPrompt^: hum...what happens if you try installing kdelibs4c2a? |
| 15:38 | <CPrompt^> | chealer : http://paste.debian.net/43283 |
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| 15:39 | <chealer> | CPrompt^: did you install any software not from Debian 4.0? |
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| 15:40 | <CPrompt^> | chealer : no. I just installed Debian about 2 hours ago from net install. |
| 15:41 | <chealer> | CPrompt^: huh. did you manually edit your sources.list? |
| 15:42 | <CPrompt^> | chealer : yes. I did. But I went back and took out the unsupported repos |
| 15:42 | <chealer> | CPrompt^: why did you do that? |
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| 15:42 | <CPrompt^> | chealer : from what I was told earlier, I needed to activate the "Unsopported" repos. But when I did this, apt-get broke. Unchecking it, got it back |
| 15:43 | <chealer> | CPrompt^: um, you were told to do that in #debian, or what? |
| 15:44 | <CPrompt^> | chealer : no. from someone else that I thought was trustworthy. |
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| 15:44 | <Nemoder> | CPrompt^: what does your sources.list look like? |
| 15:44 | <mike> | hi2all |
| 15:44 | <chealer> | CPrompt^: did that person explain why? and which "unsopported" repos were these? |
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| 15:45 | <chealer> | Nemoder: he already showed an apt-cache policy output at http://paste.debian.net/43277 |
| 15:45 | <CPrompt^> | chealer : was a suggestion to get kde installed. |
| 15:45 | <CPrompt^> | chealer : sources.lst : http://paste.debian.net/43284 |
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| 15:46 | <chealer> | Nemoder: ah, good idea, it shows the comments too |
| 15:47 | <Nemoder> | etch AND sarge? 0.o |
| 15:47 | <chealer> | Nemoder: and unstable |
| 15:48 | <CPrompt^> | chealer & Nemoder : yeah....so, should I just start over? It's only been installed for about 21/2 hours :) |
| 15:48 | <chealer> | CPrompt^: unless there was a specific reason to tell that, I suppose the person you trusted was misguided. if you installed software from unstable, it may be best to reinstall while the system is still fresh. |
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| 15:49 | <CPrompt^> | chealer : no. I haven't installed from it that I know of. I haven't installed anything but Konversation |
| 15:49 | <Nemoder> | I don't see unstable listed, did you manually pull debs from unstable? |
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| 15:49 | <chealer> | CPrompt^: you installed konversation from unstable? |
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| 15:49 | <CPrompt^> | chealer : no. It was listed in the package manager. I can just reinstall and then apt-get KDE |
| 15:49 | <chealer> | Nemoder: # deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable main |
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| 15:50 | <Nemoder> | commented though |
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| 15:50 | <CPrompt^> | chealer & Nemoder : so there should be no repos that I need to activate other than the default to install KDE? |
| 15:51 | <chealer> | CPrompt^: yes but did you install it while unstable was not commented in your sources.list? |
| 15:51 | <chealer> | CPrompt^: not just to install KDE, no. |
| 15:51 | <CPrompt^> | chealer : no. I installed Konversation before. |
| 15:52 | <chealer> | CPrompt^: how did apt-get break when you added unstable in your sources.list? |
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| 15:52 | <knoppix_> | hi |
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| 15:52 | <knoppix_> | whats up |
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| 15:53 | <CPrompt^> | chealer : not sure. Checked off the "unstable" and when I refreshed, it said that it couldn't fetch list. After that, there were no packages listed |
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| 15:53 | <keitherz> | i cant start x |
| 15:53 | <Nemoder> | CPrompt^: if you just want some of the extra stuff all you need is a sources.list like this: http://paste.debian.net/43285 |
| 15:53 | <keitherz> | i just installed xorg |
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| 15:54 | <CPrompt^> | Nemoder : are those just added to your sources.lst? |
| 15:54 | <Nemoder> | that is the entire list |
| 15:55 | <CPrompt^> | Nemoder : 3 sources? OK. |
| 15:55 | <chealer> | CPrompt^: I suppose we could figure out what happened if you provided your dpkg log, but I think it will still be a good idea to reinstall. |
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| 15:55 | <CPrompt^> | chealer : agreed. I'll go ahead and do that. Thanks for your time |
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| 15:55 | <Nemoder> | oh I forgot the security line for stable, but ya that's about all you need |
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| 15:56 | <CPrompt^> | Nemoder : thanks for your time and info as well. |
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| 16:14 | <rkos> | is it possible to create a new partition without losing all the data? |
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| 16:15 | <Chris7mas> | s |
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| 16:19 | <chealer> | rkos: yes |
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| 16:32 | <client> | hi |
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| 16:37 | <client> | aide me please |
| 16:37 | <client> | how to connecte on undernet pls |
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| 16:38 | <Solver> | connect to irc.undernet.org |
| 16:38 | <client> | dont wiork |
| 16:38 | <Solver> | using the standard method for your irc client |
| 16:39 | <Solver> | debian box? |
| 16:39 | <client> | yes |
| 16:39 | <client> | .server eu....... undernet.org |
| 16:39 | <client> | I HAVE FORGOTEN THE COMANDE |
| 16:40 | <Solver> | I'm about to go but you should use 'host' to check dns resolution |
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| 16:40 | [~] | Solver goes (physically) |
| 16:41 | <client> | ok thx its reseolved |
| 16:41 | <client> | bye |
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| 17:00 | <el_isma> | Hello |
| 17:01 | <muep> | hello |
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| 17:03 | <fenix> | hello |
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| 17:05 | <el_isma> | I'm looking for a source management system. I develop software with a friend, we both have 2 pcs, and some of the time we don't have net access. We also need something that's easy to set up and use on the pcs... Any suggestions? Where should I be reading? |
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| 17:05 | <supaman> | most projects are using svn today ... havent used it myself so cant comment on it |
| 17:05 | <ggiorrgggio> | romania |
| 17:06 | <ggiorrgggio> | mioveni |
| 17:06 | <aFlag> | svn is ok, better than cvs |
| 17:06 | <aFlag> | but I like git way better |
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| 17:06 | <ggiorrgggio> | ce faceti ma |
| 17:07 | <el_isma> | aFlag: I have used CVS in the past. What does git do better? |
| 17:07 | <ggiorrgggio> | a t i adormit |
| 17:08 | <aFlag> | git is distributed, each person can have his own repository and don't need to rely on one big server |
| 17:08 | <ggiorrgggio> | hy |
| 17:08 | <ggiorrgggio> | hy |
| 17:08 | <el_isma> | aFlag: that's cool. Is it easy to set up? |
| 17:08 | <ggiorrgggio> | hy |
| 17:09 | <aFlag> | el_isma, yes, git init and you're ready do go |
| 17:09 | <ggiorrgggio> | hy |
| 17:09 | <aFlag> | then you can pull and push stuff using ssh, http or git-daemon |
| 17:09 | <JasonS> | !it |
| 17:09 | <dpkg> | per aiuto in lingua italiana, provi il canale #debian-it sulla rete irc.freenode.net (non irc.debian.org). C'è anche il canale #linux-it là. |
| 17:09 | <ggiorrgggio> | yes |
| 17:09 | <el_isma> | aFlag: cool. I'm gonna try it. thanks :) |
| 17:10 | <ggiorrgggio> | oooooooooooo |
| 17:10 | <el_isma> | ggiorrgggio: Please stop spamming |
| 17:10 | <ggiorrgggio> | noooooooooooo |
| 17:10 | <ggiorrgggio> | hy |
| 17:10 | <Eulex> | !it |
| 17:10 | <dpkg> | per aiuto in lingua italiana, provi il canale #debian-it sulla rete irc.freenode.net (non irc.debian.org). C'è anche il canale #linux-it là. |
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| 17:11 | <ggiorrgggio> | ì'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' |
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| 17:11 | <JasonS> | never mind |
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| 17:11 | <Eulex> | ah, sorry |
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| 17:14 | <juuuuuuuuuuuuuu> | rimini |
| 17:14 | <JasonS> | its for you Myon :) |
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| 17:30 | <jusae> | whats the shell command to return the current permissions of a given file? in numeric form? |
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| 17:50 | <grasn_> | how can i set Kmail to use iceweasel as browser for mail urls |
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| 17:52 | <chealer> | grasn_: is iceweasel your default browser in KDE? |
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| 17:53 | <grasn_> | yes i made i as default browser |
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| 17:53 | <grasn_> | oh |
| 17:53 | <grasn_> | i see its not, i made it default, yesterday, and today it was konquer again |
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| 18:10 | <jusae> | whats the shell command to return the current permissions of a given file? in numeric form? |
| 18:11 | <streuner> | read /msg dpkg permissions (greycat's website) |
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| 18:12 | <streuner> | http://wooledge.org/mywiki/Permissions <- it should explain how it works, IIRC |
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| 18:13 | <streuner> | hexadecimal, IIRC |
| 18:13 | <jusae> | is there a command that returns that information |
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| 18:16 | <Xenguy> | jusae: I'm not aware of command that will, but it's probably best to just learn it anyway |
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| 18:17 | <jusae> | i know the permissions, i just don't wanna convert the -rw------- into numeric, unnecessarly |
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| 18:18 | <Xenguy> | jusae: that is 600 right (or maybe I don't understand your real question) |
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| 18:19 | <JJtech> | !compiz |
| 18:19 | <dpkg> | from memory, compiz is a window and composite manager that uses OpenGL for rendering. It runs on <Xgl> and <AIGLX>. It is now in Debian and can run when AIGLX and composite are enabled for your X server. Read http://wiki.debian.org/Compiz for configuration and usage details. Current state of Compiz (et al) in unstable can be found at http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/Compiz |
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| 18:19 | <supaman> | Xenguy: imagine a shell script that needs the permissions in numbers instead of letters ... and you dont want to make a function to do this .. :) |
| 18:20 | <jusae> | yep |
| 18:20 | <streuner> | Xenguy: it would be easier if he just read the URL |
| 18:20 | <jusae> | i did read the url |
| 18:20 | <streuner> | jusae: re-read it again |
| 18:21 | <streuner> | ere's a table to help you out in the meantime: |
| 18:21 | <streuner> | rw- 6 (4 + 2) |
| 18:21 | <Xenguy> | read = 4; write = 2; execute = 1 |
| 18:22 | <jusae> | okay i understand the permission settings, but rw- goes bood too well with any numeric calculations |
| 18:22 | <jusae> | *doesn't bood |
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| 18:23 | <supaman> | jusae: sorry, I think you have to make your own function for this |
| 18:23 | <jusae> | is there a shell function that will return the numeric permission settings of a give file, in hex/oct/dec? |
| 18:23 | <jusae> | okay |
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| 18:24 | <jusae> | thxs |
| 18:24 | <jagerman> | jusae: perl -e 'printf "%3o\n", (stat shift)[2] & 07777' FILENAME |
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| 18:24 | <jusae> | without perl, cos most fresh installs don't use perl |
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| 18:25 | <jagerman> | It'll be there on any fresh debian installation |
| 18:25 | <jusae> | ohh, f^^k ur right |
| 18:25 | <jusae> | lol |
| 18:25 | <streuner> | Perl is on any debian default installation..., or you just use something different |
| 18:25 | <jusae> | grrrr at my memory |
| 18:26 | <a1i> | hi there, what package do i need to install kde? i dont have to select them all manually, do i? |
| 18:26 | <bzed> | perl is just slow, you could use sed :| |
| 18:26 | <bzed> | :P |
| 18:26 | <streuner> | !install kde |
| 18:26 | <dpkg> | The metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff (almost the full KDE), 'kde-core' only the core. To install KDE instead of GNOME during Debian installation if you're not installing from the KDE CD, supply "tasks=standard, kde-desktop" at d-i's boot prompt. For more details, see http://wiki.debian.org/KdeDebInstall |
| 18:26 | <a1i> | thx |
| 18:26 | <jusae> | bzed, example somewhere? |
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| 18:26 | <bzed> | jusae: man sed |
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| 18:27 | <jusae> | how do u go back up on man? |
| 18:27 | <Xenguy> | jusae: b |
| 18:27 | <Xenguy> | jusae: for 'back' |
| 18:28 | <jagerman> | Install less and hit the up arrow/page up |
| 18:28 | <Xenguy> | naw, use spacebar and b, g and G |
| 18:29 | <bzed> | jusae: stat filename | sed '5,$d;1,3d;s,Access: (,,;s,/.*,,' |
| 18:29 | <bzed> | for example |
| 18:29 | <Xenguy> | oh, and j and k |
| 18:30 | <JJtech> | where to get compiz-fusion? |
| 18:31 | <Xenguy> | !compiz |
| 18:31 | <dpkg> | i guess compiz is a window and composite manager that uses OpenGL for rendering. It runs on <Xgl> and <AIGLX>. It is now in Debian and can run when AIGLX and composite are enabled for your X server. Read http://wiki.debian.org/Compiz for configuration and usage details. Current state of Compiz (et al) in unstable can be found at http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/Compiz |
| 18:31 | <jagerman> | bzed: Um |
| 18:32 | <jagerman> | bzed, jusae: stat -c '%a' filename |
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| 18:34 | <bzed> | jagerman: oh even better. seems I use that way too rarely |
| 18:35 | <JJtech> | do they have a step-by-step compis-fusion how to's?????? |
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| 18:36 | <inferno> | when I install apache |
| 18:36 | <inferno> | where is the root document |
| 18:36 | <inferno> | where html files are served from |
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| 18:37 | <Xenguy> | inferno: /var/www ? |
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| 18:37 | <inferno> | thanks |
| 18:37 | <inferno> | don't know why it made "/www" and /srv? |
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| 18:39 | <Xenguy> | inferno: I have /srv, but no /www |
| 18:39 | <JJtech> | > hi to all, pls help me regarding this problem: |
| 18:39 | <JJtech> | > W: GPG error: http://ftp.debian.org unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A70DAF536070D3A1 |
| 18:39 | <JJtech> | > W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
| 18:39 | <Xenguy> | JJtech: try apt-cache search keyring |
| 18:39 | <JJtech> | kk.. i'll try |
| 18:40 | <Xenguy> | JJtech: installing some of the default keyrings might help |
| 18:40 | <JJtech> | ok |
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| 18:40 | <JJtech> | i did "apt-cache search keyring"... a series of txt appeared.. what to do next? |
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| 18:42 | <JJtech> | i did "apt-cache search keyring"... a series of txt appeared.. what to do next? |
| 18:43 | <Xenguy> | !keyring |
| 18:43 | <dpkg> | somebody said keyring was a circular ring of metal for holding keys... in the context of debian, the public gpg keys. |
| 18:43 | <Xenguy> | heh |
| 18:43 | <Xenguy> | JJtech: maybe try installing debian-keyring |
| 18:43 | <Xenguy> | ? |
| 18:44 | <supaman> | and after that run aptitude update |
| 18:44 | <Xenguy> | JJtech: debian-multimedia-keyring is another good one to have if you use packages from debian-multimedia |
| 18:45 | <JJtech> | i installed from liveCD ubuntu 64bit |
| 18:45 | <supaman> | JJtech: then try #ubuntu ... you dont have debian, you have ubuntu |
| 18:46 | <JJtech> | im sorry, but im a newbie to ubuntu |
| 18:46 | <supaman> | JJtech: no problemos |
| 18:46 | <Xenguy> | JJtech: you should /join ubuntu (debian people are touchy about being asked for ubu support) |
| 18:46 | <supaman> | JJtech: slow evening anyways :) |
| 18:47 | <JJtech> | how to join? |
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| 18:48 | <JJtech> | i did "CTRL + J" then type ubuntu... but when im at #ubuntu, no one there... |
| 18:48 | <supaman> | ahh .. is ubuntu on freenode? |
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| 18:48 | <JJtech> | i think yes... |
| 18:49 | <JJtech> | irc.freenode.net |
| 18:49 | <supaman> | yeh .. they are |
| 18:49 | <JJtech> | ow to go to irc.freenode.net ??? |
| 18:49 | <JJtech> | how to go to irc.freenode.net ??? |
| 18:49 | <supaman> | so you have to hook up to that server and then /join #ubuntu |
| 18:49 | <JJtech> | how to hook up?? |
| 18:49 | <supaman> | JJtech: usually it is just /server irc.freenode.net |
| 18:49 | <JJtech> | kk.. i'll try |
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| 18:52 | <JJtech> | thanks to all... im at freenode now.. ^_^ |
| 18:52 | <supaman> | JJtech: have fun with you new ubuntu :) |
| 18:52 | <inferno> | does xubuntu come with a firewall |
| 18:53 | <JJtech> | ^_^ ..... heheh.. |
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| 19:00 | <Tagnard> | Hi. i have a problem. |
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| 19:00 | <cut> | hi |
| 19:00 | <supaman> | don't we all |
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| 19:01 | <Tagnard> | i have done some wherid things and i want to return my debian system do the state as newly installed whidout reinstalling´it |
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| 19:01 | <jack> | Question |
| 19:02 | <jack> | Is it reasonably stable in Testing? |
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| 19:02 | <Tagnard> | like taking everything back to default |
| 19:02 | <supaman> | jack: for private use it is yes ... for enterprise use no |
| 19:03 | <jack> | supaman, I'm just fed up with ubuntuthis release |
| 19:03 | <jack> | its just plain bad |
| 19:03 | <supaman> | jack: and as long as you dont update your testing dist when they are uploading a lot of packages from unstable :) |
| 19:03 | <jack> | hmm/ |
| 19:03 | <jack> | XD |
| 19:03 | <jack> | Sounds like bad timing |
| 19:04 | <jack> | Wolf ET was even crashing the whole system |
| 19:04 | <jack> | :'\ |
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| 19:05 | <supaman> | Tagnard: this is to general ... a lot of work is behind such an operation and Im not sure it can be done even |
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| 19:05 | <supaman> | Tagnard: are you sure you dont just want to back up your private stuff and reinstall? |
| 19:06 | <Tagnard> | supaman: the problem is that i dont have a cd or dvd aviable and i need ro reinstall it badly :( |
| 19:07 | <el_isma> | jack: Debian Testing is quite stable. It's like ubuntu minus the bugs :) |
| 19:07 | <jack> | :P |
| 19:07 | <jack> | Ok |
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| 19:07 | <Tagnard> | supaman: is there a way to put the files i need to reinstall on a usb stick? |
| 19:07 | <jack> | And what CD's are required for install? |
| 19:07 | <supaman> | jack: the testing is updated when the packages in unstable are ready to be uploaded ... that is most grave bugs are fixed |
| 19:08 | <jack> | Like I just want the base system |
| 19:08 | <chealer> | jack: depends what you mean by reasonably. |
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| 19:08 | <jack> | like it won't just BREAK |
| 19:08 | <chealer> | jack: none |
| 19:08 | <el_isma> | jack: I used netinstall. |
| 19:08 | <el_isma> | jack: It downloads all the packages you want from the net |
| 19:09 | <jack> | Sorry to refrence ubuntu but enough like the live cd installs |
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| 19:09 | <supaman> | Tagnard: if you can get the base system up and running then you can copy the .deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives and install them one by one |
| 19:09 | <jack> | The basics |
| 19:09 | <jack> | :P |
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| 19:10 | <jack> | Are they not orginized by importance on the Cds XD |
| 19:10 | <supaman> | Tagnard: but this is a lot of work and requires some expertise |
| 19:10 | <Tagnard> | supaman: something that i lack |
| 19:10 | <supaman> | Tagnard: can't you download a .iso and burn it to a cd? |
| 19:10 | <el_isma> | jack: You could install with one cd. |
| 19:10 | <jack> | hmm ok |
| 19:11 | <jack> | That's what I'd love to do |
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| 19:11 | <jack> | el_isma, how good is the net installer? |
| 19:12 | <jack> | is it just an apt-get shell? |
| 19:12 | <supaman> | the net installer is excellent ... if you have access to a repository .. |
| 19:12 | <jack> | I do indeed |
| 19:12 | <el_isma> | jack: It's a small iso (120Mb I think), and only has the base packages inside. |
| 19:12 | <jack> | GUI? |
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| 19:13 | <el_isma> | jack: all the debian installers run on the same backend, which, if it makes you feel better, Ubuntu uses too |
| 19:13 | <supaman> | I have a lot of problems with it since to get to the net I have to log on to my campus firewall to get outside of it ... so I allways have problems with it, but that is because of my nets setup .. not because of cd |
| 19:13 | <jack> | I did an alt install is it similar? |
| 19:14 | <jack> | Wait wait wait |
| 19:14 | <jack> | Is there wifi support? |
| 19:14 | <jack> | :X |
| 19:14 | <jack> | (atmel specifically) |
| 19:14 | <el_isma> | jack: If I recall correctly, ubuntu's alternate install is the "normal" debian installer |
| 19:14 | <jack> | Great :X |
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| 19:15 | <azeem> | they changed it a bit, but it's the same codebase |
| 19:15 | <el_isma> | jack: I think there's a new GUI around these days, but I haven't tried it (I've seen it, though, and it's pretty) |
| 19:15 | <chealer> | jack: 802.11g or what? |
| 19:15 | <jack> | b |
| 19:15 | <chealer> | jack: is it supported by Linux? |
| 19:15 | <jack> | yes |
| 19:15 | <jack> | It was installed correctly in an alt install |
| 19:15 | <chealer> | jack: does it use proprietary firmware? |
| 19:15 | <jack> | runs right now on kubuntu 7.10 |
| 19:16 | <azeem> | Ubuntu does whatever it takes to support WLAN |
| 19:16 | <azeem> | Debian has higher standards WRT Free Software |
| 19:16 | <jack> | :P |
| 19:16 | <azeem> | so just because it was supported out-of-the-box on Kubuntu doesn't mean it's out-of-the-box on Debian |
| 19:16 | <jack> | The AT[endless stream of numbers] driver works |
| 19:16 | <jack> | Its from BerliOS, I assume its GPL |
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| 19:17 | <Tagnard> | supaman: a friend had a debian cd. thx anyway |
| 19:17 | <azeem> | !at76_usb |
| 19:17 | <dpkg> | well, at76_usb is a driver for Atmel AT76c503, AT76c505 and AT76c505a based wireless LAN USB devices: http://at76c503a.berlios.de/ It is a rewrite of the Sourceforge atmelwlandriver. Packaged in Debian as 'at76c503a-source'. Ask me about <atmel usb devices>. This driver currently does not support WPA. |
| 19:17 | <miksuh> | jack: atmel wifi cards need madwifi driver |
| 19:17 | <azeem> | ah |
| 19:17 | <miksuh> | it's wery easy to install that |
| 19:17 | <supaman> | Tagnard: ahh .. good .. :) |
| 19:17 | <jack> | AT76C503A |
| 19:18 | <supaman> | Tagnard: good luck then |
| 19:18 | <jack> | That one |
| 19:18 | <Tagnard> | :) |
| 19:18 | <Tagnard> | thx |
| 19:18 | <miksuh> | # module-assistant auto-install madwifi |
| 19:18 | <chealer> | miksuh: are you sure? |
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| 19:18 | <azeem> | jack: apparently that driver is not in Linux directly |
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| 19:18 | <chealer> | jack: what's the chipset? |
| 19:18 | <jack> | Atmel. |
| 19:18 | <el_isma> | What can I use to draw a block diagram? (it's for an electronics project) |
| 19:18 | <chealer> | jack: that's just the chipset's manufacturer. |
| 19:19 | <jack> | Uh |
| 19:19 | <jack> | I don't know |
| 19:19 | <supaman> | el_isma: a load of applications are available for that |
| 19:19 | <jack> | There really is only one atmel driver for all their chips though |
| 19:19 | <miksuh> | ah not atmel, but atheros |
| 19:19 | <el_isma> | supaman: How do I search for them? |
| 19:20 | <jack> | Its 802.11b USB |
| 19:20 | <jack> | The worst possible situation :P |
| 19:20 | <chealer> | jack: it seems to be supported, but I'm not sure. if you were talking about at76c50x. |
| 19:20 | <jack> | I mgiht wait to install until I wire the house |
| 19:20 | <jack> | its AT76C50X yeah |
| 19:20 | <chealer> | jack: then it should be supported. |
| 19:21 | <supaman> | el_isma: hmmm .. look through the packages at the homepage in science, electronics, development and perhaps some other |
| 19:21 | <supaman> | el_isma: or just search for CAE |
| 19:21 | <chealer> | miksuh: yeah |
| 19:21 | <supaman> | el_isma: computer aided electronics |
| 19:22 | <chealer> | jack: re what miksuh wrote, it's wrong (atmel wifi card don't need the madwifi driver) |
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| 19:22 | <el_isma> | supaman: will do, thanks |
| 19:22 | <miksuh> | atheros cards work using madwifi, I don't know about atmel |
| 19:22 | <supaman> | el_isma: xfig has some electronics in its library I know |
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| 19:23 | <jack> | 29 Linksys WUSB11 v2.6 PKW-WUSB11-V26 0x077b 0x2219 AT76C503A RFMD |
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| 19:28 | <chealer> | jack: the driver which I think supports it is "A driver 802.11b wireless cards based on the Atmel fast-vnet chips." |
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| 19:29 | <jack> | Hmm |
| 19:29 | <jack> | I'm not sure I really want to install it |
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| 19:29 | <jack> | =\ |
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| 19:39 | <bradley> | Can anyone help me install envy? |
| 19:39 | <bradley> | It says dependency python is missing but I don't know what it needs |
| 19:39 | <cahoot> | on debian? |
| 19:39 | <bradley> | yeah |
| 19:39 | <azeem> | bradley: how do you install it? |
| 19:40 | <bradley> | The package from their website |
| 19:40 | <azeem> | bradley: so ask them for support |
| 19:41 | <bradley> | ok |
| 19:41 | <bradley> | I would ask how to force authentication when anyone opens synaptic but you might just tell me to ask them for support |
| 19:41 | <azeem> | what is anyone? |
| 19:42 | <azeem> | and who is "them" in this case? |
| 19:42 | <bradley> | the synaptic package maintainers |
| 19:42 | <bradley> | is them and anyone = any account on my computer |
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| 19:43 | <azeem> | bradley: did you install synaptic from elsewhere than Debian? |
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| 19:43 | <bradley> | no |
| 19:43 | <azeem> | then this is the right place to ask about it |
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| 19:44 | <bradley> | touch'e |
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| 19:56 | <bradley> | sorry for my snarkiness |
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| 20:27 | <cockroach> | what do i need to do on oldstable for the distro-kernel to load the correct modules for my scsi controller? |
| 20:28 | <cockroach> | (kernel 2.6) |
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| 20:30 | <Brudus> | I'm trying to install a theme. It says i've installed it correctly but I don't see it in the list. |
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| 20:54 | <lxlx> | ? |
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| 20:54 | <lxlx> | who |
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| 20:55 | <raphael> | Hello, Linux people! I'm a complete Linux n00b and need help with what I suspect is a very difficult install - the gunze touchscreen drivers, from here: http://ar.linux.it/software/gunzets/ |
| 20:55 | <raphael> | I don't know where to start. :P |
| 20:55 | <raphael> | make just gives me a long list of errors. |
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| 20:57 | <drpc> | hi' |
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| 20:59 | <amphi> | raphael: pastebinning the errors might help - I know nothing of that driver though |
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| 20:59 | <raphael> | http://rafb.net/p/jblrMp73.html those are the errors |
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| 21:01 | <raphael> | I bet it's something really simple I'm doing wrong. |
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| 21:05 | <amphi> | raphael: is for the version of the kernel you're compiling against? |
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| 21:05 | <amphi> | *is the driver |
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| 21:06 | <raphael> | that could be the problem... I think there's only one version of the driver, though. it allows to pass a directory name after name, though, for different kernels. |
| 21:06 | <raphael> | I don't know what directory I should pass. |
| 21:06 | <raphael> | after make* sorry |
| 21:06 | <raphael> | ...odd typo. :P |
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| 21:20 | <Internat> | stupid question.. quotas.. they need to be enabled on the fstab right? |
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| 21:32 | <george> | one of the purposes of /etc/fstab is to store preferences of options to pass to mount |
| 21:33 | <george> | also, a way to find out more about what can go in fstq |
| 21:33 | <george> | is to do man 5 fstab |
| 21:33 | <george> | err misspelled something, but you get the idea |
| 21:34 | <raphael> | so... any ideas about my evil touchscreen driver? |
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| 21:39 | <george> | raphael it;s possible that the symbol CONFIG_L1_CACHE_SHIFT is expected to be defined and a number |
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| 21:40 | <george> | expected by the source of your driver code |
| 21:40 | <raphael> | aah. |
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| 21:41 | <george> | what cpu do you have |
| 21:43 | <raphael> | is there a way to define it? |
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| 21:45 | <raphael> | it's a CF-M34 Toughbook, P3 400mhZ, 192 MB RAM. if you were interested. :P |
| 21:45 | <daffytheduck> | Hi Im having trouble getting the X server started in a fresh install of lenny. I can get to a login screen but after entering my username and password it attempts to start kde but ends up back at the login |
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| 21:47 | <daffytheduck> | ive tried to startx from the prompt as a user and the output of X is here http://pastebin.ca/794906 |
| 21:50 | <george> | raphael that cpu would definitely have a l1 cache,,, so the next thing to do is find out if there is a specific kernel version it wants to build with, and if the driver source is expecting anything special in the config |
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| 21:51 | <Solver> | lshw might be useful |
| 21:51 | <raphael> | mmhm. is there a way to find that out that, then? |
| 21:51 | <Solver> | it'll tell you the cache and whether it is enabled |
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| 21:53 | <Solver> | lshw is one of the great forgotten diagnostic tools |
| 21:54 | <raphael> | what is the cache for? |
| 21:55 | <raphael> | 'lshw: command not found' |
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| 21:55 | <Solver> | raphael: aptitude install lshw |
| 21:55 | [~] | raphael installs it |
| 21:55 | <Solver> | this is Debian ;) |
| 21:56 | <raphael> | yep. about 6 seconds ahead of you. :P |
| 21:56 | <Solver> | hahah |
| 21:56 | <keitherz> | can locales be installed in sid? |
| 21:56 | <Solver> | the L1 & L2 cache improve performance |
| 21:56 | <Solver> | they help with pre-fetch, etc |
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| 21:57 | <keitherz> | because when i try to install it it saids it depends on glibc-2.6-1 or something |
| 21:58 | <keitherz> | so i installed locales-all will that work? |
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| 21:59 | <george> | cat /etc/debian_version |
| 22:00 | <raphael> | here it is: http://rafb.net/p/Uwr8iD58.html |
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| 22:01 | <daffytheduck> | did u try locales-gen |
| 22:01 | <keitherz> | daffytheduck are you talking to me? |
| 22:01 | <daffytheduck> | yes |
| 22:01 | <keitherz> | locales-gen? |
| 22:01 | <daffytheduck> | have u just installed locales |
| 22:01 | <keitherz> | no |
| 22:01 | <keitherz> | i cant |
| 22:02 | <daffytheduck> | ok |
| 22:02 | <daffytheduck> | why not |
| 22:02 | <raphael> | Debian version 4.0, by the way, if that was directed towards me. |
| 22:02 | <keitherz> | its a broken package... it says it depends on glic-2.6-1 which cannot be installed |
| 22:03 | <daffytheduck> | what version of Debian have u got |
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| 22:03 | <keitherz> | but the locales error were fixed when i installed locales-all |
| 22:03 | <george> | raphael, thanks btw |
| 22:03 | <keitherz> | im on sid |
| 22:03 | <daffytheduck> | ok |
| 22:03 | <george> | keitherz cat /etc/debian_version |
| 22:03 | <daffytheduck> | I had the same issue |
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| 22:03 | <keitherz> | george whats that for? |
| 22:04 | <daffytheduck> | im just trying to think how i fixed it |
| 22:04 | <george> | I want to see what debian thinks its version is |
| 22:04 | <keitherz> | daffytheduck please remember it |
| 22:04 | <Solver> | cat /etc/debian_version on an Ubuntu Feisty box returns 4.0. hehe :) |
| 22:05 | <daffytheduck> | i know there is a bug with upgrading to glibc-2.7 |
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| 22:05 | <daffytheduck> | one sec |
| 22:05 | <keitherz> | oh yeah i just upgraded to sid |
| 22:06 | <keitherz> | after a fresh netinst without desktop environment |
| 22:06 | <raphael> | agh, dodgy wireless. I missed anything from the last... minute. |
| 22:06 | <keitherz> | and maybe the libs are also causing the x not to start |
| 22:06 | <daffytheduck> | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=449423 |
| 22:07 | <keitherz> | argh |
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| 22:07 | <keitherz> | i have no gui can you please just explain the solution |
| 22:07 | <keitherz> | i cant start xorg ijust installed it |
| 22:07 | <daffytheduck> | aptitude install lynx |
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| 22:07 | <diego> | I have a very old monitor, and so the max resolution I can get is 800x600. The problem is that some windows in kde don't fit the screen, they are too big. This happens specially in the kde control center, so in order to access some butons I must move the window left or right... you get the idea. It's a pain in the ass. Is there any way to fix it, or is 800x600 not very well suported in kde? |
| 22:07 | <daffytheduck> | thatll give you a browser |
| 22:08 | <keitherz> | ok wait |
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| 22:08 | <raphael> | I feel your pain, diego. |
| 22:08 | <raphael> | 800x600, 8.5 inch screen. but no idea how to help you :P |
| 22:09 | <raphael> | if it helps any, all the windows seem to fit in GNOME. |
| 22:10 | <diego> | raphael: Thank you for your understanding. Hope some day I will throw this monitor away. It's more than 10 years old! |
| 22:11 | <raphael> | mmm. mine's a laptop screen ;) |
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| 22:12 | <keitherz> | well the cat /etc/debian_version returns lenny/sid |
| 22:12 | <keitherz> | and how can i use lynx, how can i click your link |
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| 22:13 | <raphael> | type the link into Lynx, I think |
| 22:13 | <keitherz> | daffytheduck |
| 22:15 | <keitherz> | hello? |
| 22:16 | <keitherz> | wheres the link again |
| 22:16 | <raphael> | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=449423 |
| 22:16 | <keitherz> | now how can i use that |
| 22:16 | <keitherz> | hmm |
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| 22:17 | <raphael> | type lynx into terminal |
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| 22:18 | <raphael> | then press G |
| 22:18 | <raphael> | type the address, and welcome to the world of the 1980s :P |
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| 22:22 | <diego> | Is there any way to limit the size of the windows? |
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| 22:24 | <george> | daffytheduck: did you say before that the login screen you get is a graphic one? |
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| 22:28 | <themisfit> | Hi. I'm having some problems with X11-forwarding and SSH. I'm running Debian 4.0_r1 on an Ultra 5. The /etc/ssh/sshd_config file is configured for allowing X11 forwarding and I'm ssh-ing with -X. |
| 22:28 | <themisfit> | Any suggestions? |
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| 22:29 | <themisfit> | I'm connecting from OS X. I've also tried connecting from FreeBSD. I don't think the clients are the problem. |
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| 22:33 | <d0rt> | themisfit check /etc/ssh/ssh_config (or equivalent in whatever appropriate directory) on the client end too |
| 22:34 | <george> | you said "you're having some problems" without saying what they are... |
| 22:34 | <themisfit> | I did... they have forwading enabled. (Host *\nForwardAgent yes\nFowardX11 yes) |
| 22:34 | <george> | what are the problems you're having? :) |
| 22:35 | <d0rt> | if that was a direct paste, then there's your problem |
| 22:35 | <themisfit> | The DISPLAY environment variable is not set. |
| 22:35 | <themisfit> | Without the \n. |
| 22:35 | <d0rt> | but probably it was just a typo putting it here |
| 22:35 | <themisfit> | Not a direct paste. :) |
| 22:35 | <d0rt> | FowardX11 |
| 22:36 | <themisfit> | But doesn't the -X option override the client settings? |
| 22:36 | <d0rt> | it needs another r |
| 22:36 | <d0rt> | ForwardX11 |
| 22:36 | <d0rt> | that's all I was pointing out |
| 22:36 | <themisfit> | Oh, just a typo here. |
| 22:37 | <themisfit> | Do I need to do anything with hosts.allow? |
| 22:38 | [~] | d0rt doesn't think so |
| 22:38 | <d0rt> | as far as i can tell you ought to be on the right track |
| 22:38 | <george> | themisfit are these all different client boxes? |
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| 22:39 | <themisfit> | Yup. I'm connecting to a Debian machine from FreeBSD and OS X. |
| 22:39 | <george> | ok, try this |
| 22:39 | <themisfit> | I've tried ssh -2 -X... just to make sure the protocol is identical to the server's. |
| 22:39 | <george> | restart the ssh server on debian, then ssh from an xterm or rxvt |
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| 22:40 | <george> | log in, then check echo $DISPLAY |
| 22:40 | <keitherz> | daffytheduck what did you do to make it work |
| 22:40 | <keitherz> | and other sid users there |
| 22:40 | <themisfit> | That's exactly what I've been trying... the DISPLAY. :) |
| 22:40 | <themisfit> | It's never set. |
| 22:41 | <george> | ok |
| 22:41 | <george> | on the debian box, apt-get install xbase-clients |
| 22:41 | <themisfit> | OK, installing. |
| 22:41 | <themisfit> | Do you ever use dselect? |
| 22:41 | <themisfit> | I never really use apt-get directly. |
| 22:41 | <george> | slooooowwwwwly I turned... |
| 22:42 | <george> | step by step, |
| 22:42 | <george> | inch by inch I crept |
| 22:42 | <george> | oh, sorry, dselect is my trigger word :) |
| 22:42 | <raphael> | nice. :P |
| 22:42 | <themisfit> | I guess not. |
| 22:42 | [~] | themisfit prefers dselect. |
| 22:42 | <themisfit> | :D |
| 22:42 | <d0rt> | wow |
| 22:43 | [~] | d0rt has never seen that sentiment expressed :-] |
| 22:43 | <themisfit> | Well, searching for packages is relatively easy. |
| 22:43 | [~] | d0rt cowers before dselect |
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| 22:43 | <d0rt> | i find aptitude works the way it ought to |
| 22:43 | <d0rt> | i can't imagine wanting more than aptitude provides me with |
| 22:44 | <george> | I have yet to do an installation purely with aptitude |
| 22:44 | <d0rt> | well |
| 22:44 | <d0rt> | i mean |
| 22:44 | <keitherz_> | hmm maybe the solution to my problem is get the experemental glibc-2.7-1 |
| 22:44 | <d0rt> | apt-get install aptitude |
| 22:44 | <d0rt> | has to be done pretty early on |
| 22:44 | [~] | raphael nudges someone back in the direction of his driver |
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| 22:45 | <george> | yeah but I'm told that newer apt-get is keeping track I guess as of lenny |
| 22:45 | <george> | is she cute? |
| 22:45 | <george> | I like cute drivers |
| 22:46 | <raphael> | she's cuter when she works. ...and I think I just made a euphimism in LINUX. :P |
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| 22:47 | <themisfit> | It's now working! |
| 22:47 | <themisfit> | Awesome. |
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| 22:48 | <themisfit> | Thanks a lot. |
| 22:48 | <george> | what you want to do first is find out what are the required programs and files installed at the time you build |
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| 22:48 | <george> | them is fit? |
| 22:48 | <themisfit> | the-misfit. :P |
| 22:48 | <george> | oh :) I was gonna ask who is them :) |
| 22:49 | <raphael> | mmm, the driver docs don't actually say that I think. helpfully enough. |
| 22:49 | <raphael> | them is always fit, george. |
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| 22:49 | [~] | george gonna play some bass tonite hopefully |
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| 22:50 | <themisfit> | Aha, xbase-clients contains xauth. |
| 22:50 | <george> | right |
| 22:50 | <george> | that should be what does it |
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| 22:50 | <themisfit> | I think so. |
| 22:50 | <themisfit> | Thanks! |
| 22:50 | <themisfit> | Night! |
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| 22:50 | <george> | welcomenite |
| 22:51 | <george> | them is gone! |
| 22:51 | <george> | raphael: do you see a file README in the root of the src tree? |
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| 22:52 | <raphael> | yes. |
| 22:52 | <raphael> | it's basically the stuff from the site copy-pasted. :P |
| 22:52 | <george> | and does that say much more than "copyright blah 1885" |
| 22:53 | <george> | if no, does it say anything about other files to read? |
| 22:53 | <george> | whether yes or no, is there a file INSTALL in the root of the src tree? |
| 22:54 | <raphael> | yeah, it says to check the /doc directory which is just what's on the site in various formats. |
| 22:54 | [~] | raphael makes no comment about 1885 |
| 22:54 | <raphael> | yes, there is an INSTALL file |
| 22:55 | <george> | that file is likely to enumerate the build requirements |
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| 22:56 | <raphael> | sorry, I'm an idiot. no, there is no INSTALL file. |
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| 22:57 | <george> | ok, are you in the same dir as where the README is? |
| 22:57 | <raphael> | yeah |
| 22:57 | <daffytheduck> | george the screen is graphic yes |
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| 22:58 | <george> | daffytheduck: when you move the mouse, does something happen on the screen? can you click to move where the text insertion point is? |
| 22:58 | <daffytheduck> | i can startx as root but i end up with a mouse pointer on a black screen |
| 22:58 | <daffytheduck> | yes |
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| 22:59 | <george> | daffytheduck: ok. conclusion: your x server is working fine |
| 22:59 | <daffytheduck> | i thought so |
| 22:59 | <Solver> | sounds like it |
| 22:59 | <george> | it's the starting of kde or whatever that is the problem |
| 22:59 | <daffytheduck> | ok |
| 22:59 | <miksuh> | Hmm do you remember if debian installer can resize existing ntfs partition and make new partition for the debian? It's wery long time I installed debiuan to same hd as windows |
| 22:59 | <Solver> | the root window (background) is normally grey by default |
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| 23:00 | <daffytheduck> | your right because im getting no EE errors sarting X |
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| 23:00 | <miksuh> | It's long time I had windows at home :D |
| 23:00 | <Solver> | daffytheduck: if you click the mouse does anything happen? |
| 23:00 | <george> | also files in your home dir could affect how your session starts |
| 23:00 | <daffytheduck> | in the kdm login screen I have full functionality |
| 23:00 | <Solver> | oh cool |
| 23:00 | <daffytheduck> | but i cant get past it |
| 23:01 | <george> | ok, what kind of session is it set to? |
| 23:01 | <daffytheduck> | i try to login and it dumps me straight back at the login |
| 23:01 | <miksuh> | now I need windows for the symbian coding :P |
| 23:01 | <daffytheduck> | i only have kde installed |
| 23:01 | <miksuh> | because there is no symbian ide and emulator for the linux :( |
| 23:01 | <Solver> | kde is broken in some way or .xsession is broken if it is in use |
| 23:02 | <daffytheduck> | i didnt check the sessions |
| 23:02 | <daffytheduck> | ill reboot and take a look ok |
| 23:02 | <Solver> | .xsession is a file used to set how X is setup. most ppl don't use it these days |
| 23:02 | <daffytheduck> | ok |
| 23:03 | <daffytheduck> | i thught xorg.conf was the file for X config |
| 23:03 | <Solver> | ~/.xsession is a user config file. I wanted to mention it in case you were actually using it :) |
| 23:03 | <dpkg> | ...but /.xsession is already something else... |
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| 23:03 | <daffytheduck> | ok |
| 23:04 | <daffytheduck> | ill try and login now and see how it goes |
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| 23:09 | <keitherz> | ok now my locales are fixed |
| 23:09 | <daffytheduck> | ok I checked out the sessions in kdm and i tried it in both kde and failsafe and it comes straight back to the login |
| 23:09 | <keitherz> | now my problem is xorg wont start |
| 23:09 | <Solver> | X won't start? |
| 23:10 | <keitherz> | yes |
| 23:10 | <raphael> | reconfigure x? |
| 23:10 | <keitherz> | tried |
| 23:10 | <Solver> | oh sorry, I was helping daffytheduck :) |
| 23:10 | <daffytheduck> | :))) |
| 23:10 | [~] | Solver was watching BSG 1978 at the same time |
| 23:10 | <raphael> | I need to go and borrow Firefly. again. and this time make use of my DVD burner |
| 23:11 | <daffytheduck> | i installed nvidia drivers and it automatically configured X but this is a issue with Kde I think not with X |
| 23:11 | <Solver> | yeah X sounds fine |
| 23:11 | <Solver> | if you can get to the display manager (login window) |
| 23:12 | <daffytheduck> | yep |
| 23:12 | <Solver> | etch? |
| 23:12 | <chealer> | daffytheduck: did you check your ~/.xsession-errors ? |
| 23:13 | <daffytheduck> | when I started X the first time as root i got the kde wizard but after running through the wizard all i get now is a black screen with a mouse on it |
| 23:13 | <daffytheduck> | no i didnt ill take a look |
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| 23:14 | <daffytheduck> | open: Permission denied |
| 23:14 | <daffytheduck> | its a perms issue |
| 23:14 | <Solver> | in your a/c ? |
| 23:14 | <Solver> | ls -l ~/.xsession-errors |
| 23:15 | <daffytheduck> | Xsession: X session started for mrkangaroo at Sat Nov 24 15:06:52 UTC 2007 |
| 23:15 | <daffytheduck> | open: Permission denied |
| 23:15 | <daffytheduck> | thats the whole thing |
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| 23:16 | <Solver> | well I need to go get my wife's ipod working under Ubuntu |
| 23:16 | <chealer> | daffytheduck: did you do some particular partitioning? |
| 23:16 | <daffytheduck> | no this was a partition i was already using from another distro |
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| 23:16 | <Solver> | if this is etch I'd look at the kde packages - maybe reinstall and also permissions on $HOME |
| 23:17 | <Solver> | permissions and ownership |
| 23:17 | <Solver> | you do own $HOME don't you? |
| 23:17 | <daffytheduck> | yes |
| 23:17 | <Solver> | ok good :) |
| 23:17 | <daffytheduck> | one sec |
| 23:17 | <chealer> | daffytheduck: which partition are you using from another distro? |
| 23:18 | <Solver> | chealer: an excellent question :) |
| 23:18 | <daffytheduck> | its a ext3 partition |
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| 23:19 | <Solver> | yes but where is it mounted? |
| 23:19 | <daffytheduck> | it had other folders on it but i installed lenny on it using debootstrap |
| 23:19 | <daffytheduck> | the other distro is mounted at the moment on /media/sda2 |
| 23:20 | <daffytheduck> | Lenny is mounted on /dev/sad5 |
| 23:20 | <chealer> | daffytheduck: without formatting the partition first? |
| 23:20 | <daffytheduck> | yes |
| 23:20 | <daffytheduck> | but it was already formatted ext3 so i didnt see a problem |
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| 23:21 | <chealer> | daffytheduck: I mean, you didn'T remove the files which were on the partition before you installed Debian? |
| 23:21 | <daffytheduck> | i was using it for vmware for vm's |
| 23:21 | <daffytheduck> | no |
| 23:21 | <daffytheduck> | they are still there |
| 23:21 | <Solver> | chealer: I think you found the problem ;) |
| 23:21 | <daffytheduck> | i see |
| 23:22 | <daffytheduck> | i have got all the regular folders /boot /root /home etc as well as /My Music /VmWare |
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| 23:23 | <Solver> | where is /usr ? |
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| 23:23 | <Solver> | is it on / ? |
| 23:23 | <daffytheduck> | yes /usr |
| 23:23 | <daffytheduck> | on the root |
| 23:23 | <chealer> | daffytheduck: I don't think that's supported. |
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| 23:23 | <daffytheduck> | in what respect |
| 23:24 | <raphael> | maybe Debian just doesn't like the /My Music folder? :P |
| 23:24 | <chealer> | daffytheduck: installing on an already used partition without formatting it. |
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| 23:24 | <daffytheduck> | i see |
| 23:24 | <daffytheduck> | i have done it before and its worked fine |
| 23:24 | <Solver> | where is this filesystem mounted again? |
| 23:24 | <Solver> | the one you recycled |
| 23:24 | <daffytheduck> | /dev/sda5 |
| 23:24 | <george> | but where is that mounted |
| 23:24 | <Solver> | that's the device, the mount point is like / or /usr |
| 23:25 | <daffytheduck> | yes / |
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| 23:25 | <george> | that could be weird |
| 23:25 | <Solver> | failing to make it clean opens it to non-deterministic behaviour :) |
| 23:25 | <daffytheduck> | ill try and remove the other folders then |
| 23:25 | <george> | well |
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| 23:25 | <george> | what you -might- want to do is have a separate /home at least |
| 23:25 | <Solver> | definitely |
| 23:26 | <chealer> | daffytheduck: removing the other folders is unlikely to help. what would help is to reinstall on a clean partition. |
| 23:26 | <daffytheduck> | ok |
| 23:26 | <george> | then try to keep debian installer from making a user |
| 23:26 | <Solver> | backup, do a clean build on clean filesystems |
| 23:26 | <daffytheduck> | ok |
| 23:26 | <Solver> | that way you have a clean system |
| 23:26 | <george> | do you have unpartitioned space? |
| 23:26 | <daffytheduck> | right |
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| 23:27 | <daffytheduck> | no i used all the space i had |
| 23:27 | <Solver> | for reliability I recommend etch |
| 23:27 | <raphael> | is there a touchscreen driver that is slightly more intuitive than this one? |
| 23:27 | <daffytheduck> | but i can repartition this partiton |
| 23:27 | <raphael> | or a manual way to set up the touchscreen? |
| 23:27 | <daffytheduck> | etch |
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| 23:27 | <george> | raphael, so you got that one to build? |
| 23:27 | <raphael> | nup :P |
| 23:28 | <daffytheduck> | i want to get as close to testing as possible |
| 23:28 | <Solver> | daffytheduck: Etch = Debian 4,0, the stable distro |
| 23:28 | <Solver> | oh ok |
| 23:28 | <raphael> | I fiddled around with it but didn't get any further |
| 23:28 | <daffytheduck> | i want to run compiz |
| 23:28 | <daffytheduck> | and vmware |
| 23:28 | <george> | I've been playing with xen |
| 23:29 | <daffytheduck> | ive got lenny setup on a laptop with compiz and its perfect |
| 23:29 | <george> | and I have a coupla debians running on the same box |
| 23:29 | <george> | with their own kernels |
| 23:30 | <daffytheduck> | is there a way to keep all the sources Ive downloaded to use in the rebuild |
| 23:30 | <Solver> | I've been using Ubunut to install vmware-server (since it is packaged) and then running a bunch of Ubuntu and Debian boxes virtually |
| 23:30 | <daffytheduck> | i use a XP vm for audio encoding work for a website ive got |
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| 23:31 | <raphael> | I'm going insane. I just typed /me at the start of a Google search :P |
| 23:31 | <Solver> | hahaha |
| 23:31 | <daffytheduck> | http://www.ubershare.org |
| 23:31 | <Solver> | or _sane_ |
| 23:31 | <daffytheduck> | lol |
| 23:31 | <raphael> | perhaps that. :P |
| 23:31 | <Solver> | I visit websites and want to edit them |
| 23:31 | <Solver> | too much time on WP |
| 23:31 | <daffytheduck> | whats the best way to reuse all the sources ive downloaded |
| 23:32 | <raphael> | hahaha :D |
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| 23:32 | <Solver> | :) |
| 23:32 | <daffytheduck> | is that wordpress |
| 23:32 | <daffytheduck> | wp |
| 23:33 | <raphael> | wikipedia? |
| 23:33 | <daffytheduck> | ah |
| 23:33 | <raphael> | although I thought wordpress at first, too. damn blogger culture. ;) |
| 23:33 | <daffytheduck> | yeah i dont like it |
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| 23:33 | <chealer> | Solver: hehe. you get use to that one |
| 23:34 | <Solver> | raphael: yep :) |
| 23:34 | <daffytheduck> | so what am i gonna do to reuse all the deb packages ive downloaded for lenny |
| 23:35 | <Solver> | chealer: I'm getting better :) |
| 23:35 | <daffytheduck> | aptoncd |
| 23:35 | <Solver> | ayou can run a local cache for packages |
| 23:35 | <Solver> | about a gazillion ways to do that of course |
| 23:35 | <daffytheduck> | ok |
| 23:35 | <raphael> | no, my best ever bout of insanity was when I tried to mouseover an xkcd I had on my wall to check the alt text. I got half-way out of my chair before I realised what the hell I was doing. |
| 23:35 | <Solver> | rotfl |
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| 23:36 | <raphael> | I honestly don't have a clue what I was doing. :P |
| 23:36 | <Solver> | were you drunk? :) |
| 23:36 | <daffytheduck> | u got to watch that jungle juice |
| 23:36 | <daffytheduck> | lol |
| 23:36 | <raphael> | :D |
| 23:36 | <Solver> | so I'm a big thin client guy |
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| 23:36 | <Solver> | I'm running off a thin client right now |
| 23:37 | <Solver> | cxsetup (crossover) does soemthing evil to the xserver |
| 23:37 | <raphael> | no, I don't think so. very exhausted though, and trying to multitask. I think I'll leave that to the girls. |
| 23:37 | <Solver> | it hammers it during the cxsetup staartup |
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| 23:37 | <keitherz> | ok the problem with my xorg is it gives out errno 111 and errno 3 |
| 23:37 | <keitherz> | well it says: |
| 23:37 | <keitherz> | giving up |
| 23:38 | <keitherz> | xinit: Connection refused (errno 111) Cannot connect to server |
| 23:38 | <daffytheduck> | if i could play some mucis from the prompt Id be happy without X started |
| 23:38 | <Solver> | raphael: I think alot of the clains relating to multi-tasking and gender have been retracted, or at least quietly dropped |
| 23:38 | <Solver> | the latest claim is us lefties are the good multitaskers |
| 23:39 | <Solver> | xplaycd? |
| 23:39 | <raphael> | ooh! something to do with which side of the brain you use, I assume? |
| 23:39 | <keitherz> | and the another one that i forgor |
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| 23:39 | [~] | Solver whacks himself |
| 23:39 | <keitherz> | forgot* |
| 23:39 | <Solver> | there are cli music players |
| 23:39 | <Solver> | i can't remember |
| 23:39 | <daffytheduck> | what about ogg's |
| 23:39 | <keitherz> | please help |
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| 23:39 | <Solver> | daffytheduck: anything OSS shoild be fine with ogg |
| 23:40 | <daffytheduck> | i think ive got alsa runing things |
| 23:40 | <Solver> | alsaplayer or something |
| 23:40 | <keitherz> | hello? |
| 23:40 | <Solver> | keitherz: hiya |
| 23:40 | <keitherz> | please help |
| 23:41 | <Solver> | please state the nature of the medical emergency |
| 23:41 | <daffytheduck> | poor guy is struggling with X the same as me lol |
| 23:41 | <keitherz> | i just said it |
| 23:41 | <Solver> | oh right the X errors |
| 23:41 | <Solver> | google those errors. I may do it in the a minute too |
| 23:41 | <Solver> | is X running? |
| 23:42 | <keitherz> | no |
| 23:42 | <Solver> | so if you execute the X server on its own it failed? |
| 23:42 | <keitherz> | i already googled it |
| 23:42 | <keitherz> | yup |
| 23:42 | <Solver> | oh good |
| 23:42 | [~] | Solver multi-tasks fixing wifey's ipod to work with Ubuntu |
| 23:42 | <raphael> | ...apparently WINE is now a window manager. what is the guy who wrote this on? :P |
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| 23:42 | <Solver> | raphael: hahah |
| 23:43 | <keitherz> | lol |
| 23:43 | <Solver> | keitherz: have you tried starting /usr/bin/X on its own? |
| 23:43 | <Solver> | EMACS is an operating system! :) |
| 23:43 | <daffytheduck> | WINE a window manager lololololol |
| 23:43 | <keitherz> | hmm |
| 23:43 | <Solver> | oknot quite, but close :) |
| 23:43 | <keitherz> | no wine can be |
| 23:43 | <keitherz> | :P |
| 23:43 | <Solver> | keitherz: see if X will start |
| 23:43 | <raphael> | agh, Emacs. :P |
| 23:43 | <keitherz> | WINE explorer.exe |
| 23:43 | <Solver> | yeah ok :) |
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| 23:43 | <Solver> | I've been using Unix for 15 years and I've never used Emacs |
| 23:43 | <daffytheduck> | im thinking in terms of kdm gdm |
| 23:43 | <Solver> | I started it once or twice |
| 23:44 | <daffytheduck> | not a file manager |
| 23:44 | <keitherz> | well Solver let me try |
| 23:44 | <Solver> | cool |
| 23:44 | <keitherz> | man cant i multitask here |
| 23:44 | <Solver> | haha |
| 23:44 | <raphael> | heh |
| 23:44 | <daffytheduck> | lol |
| 23:44 | <keitherz> | i know fix my system |
| 23:44 | <keitherz> | :D |
| 23:44 | <keitherz> | ssh me |
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| 23:44 | <keitherz> | wait ill try to run X only |
| 23:44 | <Solver> | higher higher |
| 23:44 | <Solver> | :) |
| 23:45 | <keitherz> | where is it again? |
| 23:45 | <keitherz> | /usr/bin ? |
| 23:45 | <Solver> | well on Ubuntu it is /usr/bin/X |
| 23:45 | <Solver> | probably same on Deb |
| 23:45 | <Solver> | this is an Ubuntu |
| 23:45 | <keitherz> | yea ill try |
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| 23:45 | <Solver> | box, don't beat me :) |
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| 23:45 | <raphael> | this is Sparta. |
| 23:45 | [~] | raphael hides |
| 23:45 | <Guest90> | whats up |
| 23:45 | <Solver> | raphael: :) |
| 23:45 | <Guest90> | what is this |
| 23:45 | <Guest90> | ? |
| 23:46 | <raphael> | madness, Guest90! |
| 23:46 | <Guest90> | what |
| 23:46 | [~] | Solver was going to point out that there was no need to leave to start X |
| 23:46 | <daffytheduck> | ok im gonna go try and learn how to set up a apt cache |
| 23:46 | <Solver> | cool |
| 23:46 | <daffytheduck> | any suggestions |
| 23:46 | <daffytheduck> | lol |
| 23:46 | <Solver> | some ppl just use squid to do it |
| 23:46 | <daffytheduck> | k |
| 23:46 | <Guest90> | hey what can i do in knoppix |
| 23:46 | <daffytheduck> | lol |
| 23:46 | <chealer> | !tell Guest90 about knoppix |
| 23:46 | <daffytheduck> | LOLOLOLOL |
| 23:47 | <Solver> | I love knoppix - it's my swiss army knife |
| 23:47 | <daffytheduck> | very funny |
| 23:47 | <daffytheduck> | its good to have a knoppix cd arround |
| 23:47 | <Guest90> | ya it is |
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| 23:48 | <Solver> | got I love X's network transparency |
| 23:48 | <Solver> | I use it all the time |
| 23:48 | <Guest90> | i knew it was good for recovery |
| 23:48 | [~] | Solver uses it again |
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| 23:48 | <daffytheduck> | im waiting for 5.2 to come out |
| 23:48 | [~] | Solver is running crossover setup from wife's laptop upstrairs |
| 23:48 | <Guest90> | lol me too |
| 23:48 | <raphael> | I've never used it! I feel excluded. :P |
| 23:48 | <keitherz> | well when i /usr/bin/X it doesn't return anything |
| 23:48 | <BoBo> | hy a good firewall or a script ? |
| 23:48 | <Solver> | keitherz: does the screen go blank? |
| 23:48 | <Solver> | ven briefly |
| 23:48 | <keitherz> | and i think it terminates |
| 23:48 | <keitherz> | nope |
| 23:48 | <Solver> | ls -l /usr/bin/X |
| 23:49 | <keitherz> | for? |
| 23:49 | <Solver> | show us the result of that - 1 line |
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| 23:49 | <BoBo> | -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root 7672 2007-04-08 21:26 /usr/bin/X |
| 23:49 | <BoBo> | :)) |
| 23:49 | <keitherz> | wait |
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| 23:49 | <Solver> | BoBo: :) |
| 23:49 | <BoBo> | :) |
| 23:49 | <Solver> | oh there I was analyising it - hey wait: wrong person |
| 23:49 | <Solver> | :) |
| 23:49 | <george> | BoBo: google for "rustys unreliable guides" |
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| 23:50 | <keitherz> | well same as the guy said |
| 23:50 | <Guest90> | how do i set up networking |
| 23:50 | <george> | first you get a net |
| 23:50 | <george> | then you start it working |
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| 23:51 | <george> | then you have networking!! |
| 23:51 | <keitherz> | Solver |
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| 23:51 | <Solver> | Guest90: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 23:51 | <Solver> | Guest90: man interfaces |
| 23:51 | <Solver> | keitherz: go on |
| 23:51 | <Solver> | Guest90: we can give examples |
| 23:51 | <keitherz> | it prints out the same as the guy said before i quit |
| 23:51 | <chealer> | george: Knoppix is offtopic here. ask #knoppix |
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| 23:52 | <raphael> | how can you get a net working? I don't think strings connect well to computers :P |
| 23:52 | <george> | I've never asked a knoppix I didn't like! |
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| 23:52 | <Solver> | raphael: glue |
| 23:52 | <george> | chealer: umm, wait... |
| 23:52 | <george> | I wasn't asking a question! |
| 23:52 | <keitherz> | now what will i do Solver |
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| 23:52 | <Solver> | keitherz: when X starts it should do something |
| 23:53 | <keitherz> | well it wont |
| 23:53 | <Solver> | if it were me I'd run strace on the binary |
| 23:53 | <chealer> | keitherz: please provide your X log |
| 23:53 | <Solver> | not sure if you are up to that |
| 23:53 | <raphael> | Solver: :D |
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| 23:53 | <keitherz> | wait |
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| 23:53 | <Solver> | cool |
| 23:53 | <Solver> | man I need sleep |
| 23:53 | <george> | cake |
| 23:53 | <BoBo> | george |
| 23:53 | <BoBo> | what is rustys unreliable guides ? |
| 23:54 | <george> | google for that and see! |
| 23:54 | <BoBo> | i need a script for firewall not a book man |
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| 23:54 | <george> | what you need is a way to make the script yourself |
| 23:54 | <george> | and that's my last comment on that! |
| 23:54 | <BoBo> | ok |
| 23:55 | <Solver> | good ol Rusty |
| 23:55 | <george> | well second last... it's a good read! |
| 23:55 | <raphael> | oh yes, when Debian boots it mentions something about loading a touchscreen... which implies it recognises the touchscreen? |
| 23:55 | <BoBo> | a firewall with interface ? |
| 23:55 | <george> | you'll really be the coolest kid on the block when you tell them you made your own script! |
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| 23:56 | <raphael> | which implies the drivers are already on the system, but how do I enable it then, I guess? |
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| 23:56 | <daffytheduck> | !firestater |
| 23:56 | <raphael> | would that simply be something in xorg.conf? |
| 23:56 | <daffytheduck> | !firestarter |
| 23:56 | <dpkg> | I am the firestarter!, or http://firestarter.sourceforge.net/, or a stephen king book |
| 23:56 | [~] | raphael catches on fire |
| 23:56 | <BoBo> | ooo no firestater another ? |
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| 23:57 | <daffytheduck> | lol |
| 23:57 | <george> | they say you can't be a firestater in a airpprt |
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| 23:57 | [~] | raphael runs around screaming and jumps out the window |
| 23:57 | <Solver> | sensible choice |
| 23:57 | <Solver> | :) |
| 23:57 | <daffytheduck> | starting fires in a gas station is a no no as well |
| 23:58 | <raphael> | I hope there's a pond under the window. :P |
| 23:58 | <daffytheduck> | lol |
| 23:58 | <george> | you may have noticed I didn't say firestarter :) |
| 23:58 | <daffytheduck> | whats wrong with firestarter |
| 23:58 | <george> | starts fires? |
| 23:59 | <daffytheduck> | a firestarter and a can of metho dont mix |
| 23:59 | <raphael> | what would be the InputDevice section for a touchscreen running off ttyS3? |
| 23:59 | <george> | but if it's just a firestater |
| 23:59 | <BoBo> | firestarter is not good |
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